Topic: Guy Anderson

The host reviews the ratings for a previous episode with Guy Anderson, which received a 4.4/5 despite some criticism for being "tame." He mentions an upcoming "failed" interview that he plans to massage into a usable format and promotes the Higher Side meetups in St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cobden, Illinois. The episode concludes with a thematic poem about mystery, shamanism, and the limitations of a purely materialistic worldview.

Greg Carlwood introduces returning guest Guy Anderson, a former Freemason and independent researcher born in Cambridge. Anderson discusses his background as the son of a master mason and his eventual disillusionment with the United Grand Lodge of England. The conversation previews his encyclopedia-style book, Conspiracy Theories From MacArthur To Zombies, which covers topics ranging from Tartaria to human cloning.