59:27 We did it the ABC is a conspiracy i thought that would be a fun way to go about things and glad we did it of course the book has many more entries over five hundred pages but that is my top twenty six or twenty four really. So before you go i know that i'll get blasted in the comments if i don't ask you about this i usually try to stay out of conspiracy culture drama and personal stuff, focus on material cuz i just care about the material what's interesting There is this very strange situation going on where you run a couple of podcasts and you mentioned your interactions with jason brash ears of archaic.
1:00:05 You said you guys are talked about the prospect of a pole shift in antarctica common stuff i'd expect you to talk about and even dogs and rubber ducks at one point the club you say we're just talking about rubber ducks again today. And your very complimentary of his work i saw nothing weird with it, it seemed totally normal for colleagues to talk to each other but then he released two half hour Breakdown attacking you saying you guys have never spoken and it's a weird thing to lie about and he thinks your trying to co-opt his work or something. He does this yeah he's got videos on many many people that he doesn't like in the alternative space but i just thought it was so bizarre cuz you were just talking about like we talk a little bit like colleagues talk to each other shouldn't be that weird but
1:00:49 What could be the reason for this bizarre situation do you think maybe he's making a mistake here i know we're all talking on digital platforms maybe someone is posing as him or. A copycat channel or something like what is it when you have to obscene that's like what is the oh yeah yeah been bombarded with it Yeah it was a really strange situation because what happened was in my facebook group i saw his name appear. Someone that wanted to join but i thought that's weird because i didn't think he was on facebook so i sent the message saying just wanted to check this is genuine, because as far as i'm aware you're not on facebook that's what i've been told this person replied saying that basically along the lines of isn't funny what people are keep a low profile but isn't it funny what people
1:01:39 Decide other people do and don't do i'm in said that im on telegram if you wanna have a chat so we started talking on telegram. Because i dont really gone telegram not much it moved over to whatsapp, i just told this is the red flag this is the red flag having someone move your already talking on facebook and they want you to jump platform to platform that's a huge red flag when it comes to like compromising your pages instead I didn't really think about it much of the time so you know start talking on whatsapp and i got all sorts of things different theories, you know i'm sent links to different podcasts. My asked if he wanted to come on my channel to talk about his work the rubber duck thing i was actually send a picture of my dog my little dog is obsessed with a rubber duck that is god's
1:02:32 So it was about that and i've been talking about the possibility of a pulse shift taking place so i can talk into this person for several weeks. I know show you when cuz i don't wanna put this on but i'll show you when do you know, when we come off i'll show you the conversations so you know i don't think anything of it i think im just having a chat at least persons you know claiming to be to be him and then out of the blue It stops i don't get any more messages and a couple of days later that video goes out i thought what this is bizarre because. You know from what i now know why think that type in talking to somebody posing as him but i had no way of knowing that there wasn't anything unpleasant or anything strange you know so i was kind of really stunned when someone told me that the video was out about me because
1:03:31 I didn't think for one moment that this person was an imposter because there is no benefit from them doing that but i got played by the looks of it. I figured had to be something like that and jason has good work i think he's an interesting guy buddy does go on the offensive quite a bit i wouldn't say paranoid buddies definitely defensive, add i feel like you launched right into um i mean attack mode really not necessarily defensive but he launched right into a tack mode what is this weird lie and it's like we're on the internet man people. Poses other people all the time guys are pretty genuine normal dude who'd really is seems pretty kind to me,
1:04:20 I think he might have just got duped by a copycat and there isn't a deeper manipulation going on here but yes that was bizarre. It happened just in the time since we were talking about recording this interview so i had to mention it, but yeah either way obviously we know there's Bad actors in the alternative world i really just wish we could focus more on people and positions of actual power that actually enact policies every single day that are hurting us making our lives harder extract wealth from us cause wars, and we can just not focus so much on other people who's youtube channels we don't like. But it's human nature i guess this is what we do it's been really strange because you know if i've been tricked by someone then you know
1:05:06 I can't you know this did this just hits me out of the blue i'm thinking well right what do they do you know what what what did i do. No i don't know, Well now I'm glad we could clear it up because it seemed like that was the only logical answer and the fact that you're talking about this person wanting to go from show to show. I've gotten hit by stuff like this myself where, I'll get a really detailed email that some podcaster wants to have me on and they want to know when they can book my flight and blah blah blah blah blah... and all I need to do is jump on Facebook, and then give them control of my page. And then it gets bizarre!
1:05:47 And so I'm just like, okay this is bullshit clearly and or they need they need me to hop on a zoom. I know other people who had this happen So when it started to happen to me? I didn't have to follow along i just like oh This is that thing that's happening but in other instances They get on zoom and then they have them log into their facebook They write down the login because they're watching on zoom and then they compromise a person's page So there's all kinds of scams out there It makes way more sense that you got got rather than like, you're just out there lying about this new friendship with Jason. But he didn't like it so either way maybe this will end up in an actual friendship but it seems like you guys maybe have a few differences of opinion and thats fine thats what makes the world go around but either way conspiracy alphabet we did it I love it The book is great people should pick it up again 500 pages Way more entries then just what we mentioned