Topic: Conversos

The discussion addresses the theory of the "Black Pope" and the hidden power of the Jesuit order. Joe Atwell clarifies that while he was educated by Jesuits in Japan, he views the organization's origins as a group of "Conversos"—Jews who converted to Christianity. He links the secrecy of the Jesuits to the Spanish Inquisition and the later formation of the Illuminati by Jesuit-trained Adam Weishaupt.

The concept of "Conversos" is used to explain the hidden motivations of the global elite who may maintain secret ancestral connections while appearing integrated into Christian society. Atwill discusses how Masonic rituals, such as those involving Hiram Abiff, are modeled on ancient Hebrew traditions. He suggests that history is intentionally obscured by these groups to prevent the public from understanding the true nature of power.