Topic: Cgi Planes

The conversation turns to Simon Shack and his "September Clues" documentary, which posits that the planes on 9-11 were CGI. While acknowledging the suspicious media backgrounds of many witnesses, Andrew Johnson expresses skepticism toward Shack's total dismissal of physical evidence. Johnson shares his own research analyzing 500 first responder accounts, noting that only a small percentage actually reported seeing a plane.

Greg Carlwood emphasizes "leading by example" through a successful business and healthy lifestyle to provide "social proof" to skeptics. John Kirwin shares his specific 9-11 "awakening" moment involving CGI plane anomalies in documentaries like Loose Change. They discuss the difficulty of convincing family members who refuse to acknowledge any evidence, regardless of its validity.