Topic: Animal Magic

Gordon White of Rune Soup returns for his 19th appearance to discuss navigating the current economic and social reality through magic. The host highlights White's books, including The Chaos Protocols and Starships, and notes a major technical overhaul of the Rune Soup membership platform. The conversation begins with banter regarding the show's new video format and White's recent travels.

Greg Carlwood reflects on his personal experience with ancestral research and the impact of the "Big Machine" on his family history. Gordon White explains the importance of "getting right" with ancestors, viewing oneself as the fountainhead of a vast lineage. He suggests that realizing the earth is alive and that one is supported by an "army of the dead" can materially improve a person's life.

Naturalist and neo-pagan author Lupa Greenwolf joins the program to discuss the intersection of magic and the animal kingdom. The conversation introduces her background as a ritual toolmaking artist and the creator of The Tarot of Bones. The discussion aims to explore how indigenous and pagan traditions maintain connections to nature that modern Western society has largely abandoned.