Topic: Alter Personalities

The segment details the 1973 destruction of MKUltra records by CIA Director Richard Helms and the subsequent discovery of 20,000 misplaced documents in 1977. Marie D. Jones speculates on the graphic nature of the destroyed files, which likely contained details on sexual abuse, drug-induced hypnosis, and the creation of "super spies." The surviving documents confirm the use of extreme psychological and physical deprivation to rebuild human personalities.

Elisa joins the conversation to share her history as a victim of systematic psychological and sexual trauma. She explains that she was born in 1962 and notes that programming technology has evolved significantly over the decades. She introduces the concept of "alters," explaining that she often refers to herself as "we" due to the presence of multiple personalities created through dissociation.