The 100th Episode Special

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats How's it going Hireside Chatters? Drinking a little drink, smoking a little smoke. Getting my head right for the journey ahead from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlewood and we have navigated the weird waters of conspiracy paranormal and the all-around fringe now for 100 glorious episodes

00:49 We have examined the tools and methods of a vast and finely tuned control network The shadowy elites have used to carefully shape the way we view nearly every aspect of our reality From the smoke and mirrors of the global economy in the stagecraft world events, To the subtle and consistent attacks at our self-esteem intelligence and coldest of all our goddamn happiness It seems like this machine has learned to exploit every human weakness and has mastered the art of manipulation on the human mind, sometimes as overt and bizarre as MKUltra trauma-based mind control or ancient magical sigils used in corporate logos in government buildings.

01:25 And other times as subtle as a Coke commercial or the application of interest. It's messed up world people and for 100 episodes we have tried to shine light on the darkness, peer down the rabbit hole and taste the forbidden fruit because if power structure says it is off limits well then it must be worth exploring! We have sought to learn truth about everything we've been denied aliens in economics psychedelics in secret societies 9-11 and the other 99 problematic inconsistencies between numerous official stories that span human history and the truth It's been an amazing ride and I'm honored and humbled to have been at the wheel, thanks to everyone who stuck with it. And everyone is just now finding a seat because we are far from out of gas people! I've thought long and hard about what would be worthy of 100th episode just a few short weeks after reclaiming my freedom from corporate America and falling on the week in my 29th birthday... ...and i determined that no one guest could do it

02:17 But since I've set out on this path and injected myself in the higher side chats into the conspiracy world, I've spoken with some of the most fascinating researchers in a whole host of fields and made friends with some of the coolest people along the way. I thought it would be fun to go back and talk to 10 of my favorite guests from the past for ten new ten minute interviews That was the plan, but anarchist rebel that I am, I broke even those rules and ended up having chats with 13 past guests going anywhere from 10 minutes to 20 plus. And I couldn't be happier with how this turned out so many different opinions on so many different topics a cornucopia of conspiracy goodness. Now I could tell you who we'd be hearing from but i think it's better if we stick to the traditional THC fashion and leave it as a bit of a surprise Of course most up the places you might be listening this will have a text description with the show and you can see them in it markers there for each guest that I will have on this conspiracy mixtape of love appreciation that I've made for you

03:16 I'm hoping this will be the most shared episode ever, the most well-reviewed episode ever and the starting place for anyone who wants to get the cliff jokes to what The Higher Side Chats might be about. It's an epic episode that is for sure! Now one thing i'm not about is wasting a lot of time rambling so let's get this show on the road we have 13 guests in a money bomb winner which is always actually pretty good place to start Listen to any other episode if you don't know the drill about the money bomb, but we got $710 in donations in the past 5 episodes. So I gave half of that to one of the listeners at random for $355 went to Justin from Washington and I spent a couple minutes talking to him so let's get to that before we get too serious here and I'll talk again on the other side

04:02 Alright people we got Justin from Washington who is the new money bomb winner. We got just about 710 bucks in the last minute surge so thanks to everyone who donated I gave Justin 355 bucks of that, Justin congratulations man! Thank you very much brother appreciate it Yeah well thanks for donating i mean It means a lot to see people support a show that You could just listen to for free and I'm glad I could share the wealth man So what are you doing up there in Washington? Well, I cook by trade. Oh that's awesome! A worthy pursuit? Some might say. You gotta know how to do it. True. Well that's cool man. I usually like to ask people when they win these things if there is a favorite topic or guest from THC you'd like since we cover so many different things has there been anything that stuck out to you?

04:53 Well, probably the most recent one would be the one with Dan Fogler. That was pretty good. Made me laugh quite a bit. Right on! Cool I was curious if i would even do that one because although the movie seemed like it's gonna be pretty cool... It was a little bit outside of the usual wheelhouse he is not really an expert in anything but I still thought there were some pretty interesting content in there Yeah, the one you did with Guy McPherson kind of brought me down there toward the end. But the good thing is that song you play at the end has become one of my new favorite songs so... Oh right on! That Mountain Goat song? Yeah I never heard them before and yeah it was pretty catchy and it's on my playlist now. For sure thats good to know man So let me ask if theres any guests you think I should try to get in the future anybody you like out there thats telling truth

05:41 There's a lot. I listen to a lot of podcasts so maybe...I like the one, the thing you did with Grime-erica that was pretty cool actually I blogged for them and I had entered their money bomb because they're doing the same thing at the same time as I did yours I'm actually supposed to go on with them tomorrow night, which means you stole my first podcast debut. We snuck in under the radar that's awesome man! I'm glad that they're over there doing the same thing. I've been trying to tell anyone who hosts a podcast when people have me guest on... People ask how I get so many donations and it's kind of this money bomb thing. People like supporting each other and a show

06:25 And it's working. So that's awesome that you could win and you've donated to both. Yeah, yeah! It's their first one and I wanted to make sure they try get a big one in there Honestly I wasn't planning on winning either one...I just came into some extra money and figured I'd donate Here we are. I know, now you got a little more extra money so that's pretty cool! Indeed. I usually like to ask... You're walking away here with $355 bucks it's a nice sum do you have any plans for it? Have you given any thoughts on what you might do? Yeah its all extra money so I figured I'd go buy some conspirities there is quite a few I've had my eye on

07:08 And I'm getting a new car seat for my baby girl and might get my car checked out because it needs it. The rest will be going back into donating to some of my favorite podcasts. Wow, well that's awesome man! I'm glad that we're able to help you get a car seat for your daughter. Conspirates, I am always willing to support that and uh... That's cool man so awesome well thanks for donating You are the man It means alot Enjoy the rest of your day Yeah man, thanks for having me on. Hey happy birthday by the way! Oh thank you, thank you Alright man have a good one Peace man There we have it people Cool guy happy to drop little cash in his pocket Especially if he's gonna buy some shirts from me Thanks everybody who donated I have to say We had three donations of $100 this round My jaw dropped every time i saw that I can't believe someone would be that awesome

08:11 So of the whole 700, almost half was just three people. So that's pretty crazy I can't thank them enough as well as everyone else who donated five ten dollars along the way and The people who sent me stuff from the Amazon wish list tons of cereal and grass-fed steaks Which is great because a man needs to eat Also a listener sent me in Italian hoagie overnighted from his favorite shop in Philly primo Hoagies That was an excellent sandwich Can't let it go unmentioned So here we go, I got 13 guests. I'm just going to play them in no particular order other than the one i wanted. I don't want to interrupt the rapid fire rate at which these segments are going to come at you but I will be on the other side of the big 13 to decompress

08:55 and share with you one other little surprise I got left in the chamber. So let's do it! A very diverse group of people talking about everything from cover-ups and corruption to wonder and mystery, and even some conversations to motivate listeners... And a couple to provide solutions amongst the chaos both for individuals and collectively It's been two months in the making and I doubt there are many other collections quite like this. I've made sure to give the number and title of each guests original more in-depth appearance for anyone who wants or appreciates that reference You can also put in THC and any of these guests names, and the episode will come right up And with that said... Let's get weird people!

09:50 Stopping in for this THC special is Anthony Peek from way back in April of 2012, almost a full two years. But one of my favorite episodes nonetheless you can hear about Anthony's theories on life and consciousness and all their glory on that show which was number 21 getting deep with Anthony Peek once again folks the man who blows more minds than the US military Anthony how have you been? Hi, what an introduction. Yeah I've been fine. I've been extremely busy but yeah no it's been a fascinating two years Two years too long i think? Yeah man It really has been a long time and I do appreciate you coming here I remember how much I liked that little line in the introduction And you can't repeat a line like that so I had to wait two years just to use it again for ya

10:34 But anyway man, I know you've been a busy guy. You put out a lot of work since we last spoke. I was hoping for this little spot you could tell us about the book you just put out last September The Infinite Mind Field The Quest to Find the Gateway to Higher Consciousness which i believe is largely about the pineal gland and the pineal gland symbolism throughout history in ancient cultures Is that right? Yeah, in general terms it's my attempt to pull together a lot of the disparate threads that I've been writing about over recent years. What I'm doing is looking into the neurological and pharmaceutical aspects and neuropharmacological aspects of consciousness and how it interfaces with reality.

11:16 and I was particularly interested in the way in which the symbolism of the pineal gland goes back through most cultures right across the world, and also the way in which it links directly into the esoteric traditions in those cultures as well. And indeed I was surprised to find that a lot of the symbolism and ideas go right back to ancient Sumer, and indeed can be linked directly with such oddities as out-of-the-body experiences and such like. Yeah man, that's pretty awesome! I've been pretty intrigued by the topic for a while because i've been told that the pineal is often represented by a pine cone which is interesting because there are representations of pine cones at the Vatican and Masonic lodges in a ton of ancient cultures And also people talk about that symbol holding some hidden knowledge behind it which... The whole thing seems pretty widespread like you said back to ancients... the Sumerians

12:10 Oh, absolutely. For instance I took the opportunity a few years ago to go over to Angkor Wat in Cambodia And again, if you look at the main temple of Angkor Wat and you look at the shape of the main towers there clearly are huge pineal glands or at least pine cones. Now, of course on top of that if you wander around the particular Angkor Wat site, The Greater Site there is another temple called a Bayon and in the Bayon there are scores of carved heads carved into the side of one of the temples and all of them have the third eye symbol in the center of their forehead

12:47 So clearly we have something here that's intriguing and virtually universal. Now where I've taken it is slightly different to a lot of other people in the sense that i've linked the pineal gland directly to neurology, in the sense that I'm particularly intrigued in the evidence that the pineal gland internally, that is endogenously generates the substance known as dimethyltryptamine, which of course as you guys will be very aware is one of the most powerful hallucinogenic drugs known to man and indeed is the major constituent of ayahuasca. Now one of the things that stunned me was to discover that in fact the brain itself brews its own ayahuasca

13:31 in that we now have definite evidence and I know a lot of people out there will say there is absolutely no evidence that the brain can process, the brain actually excretes dimethyltryptamine. Well there's been work done by a lady called Gimo Borrigin who is a researcher at an American university which I think is the University of Minneapolis and she's now discovered, and this is virtually breaking news in many ways that they have discovered dimethyltryptamine in the pineal gland of live rats. Now the reason that they use rats is because of the similarity in terms of neurological structures to the human beings brain

14:15 So here we have something stunning because over the years, you know they have discovered dimethyltryptamine in the blood. They've discovered it in spinal fluid. They've discovered it in the lining of stomach and various other places but they never discovered it actively in the brain Now not only that but this is definite proof that the pineal gland generates it But on top of that what's even more intriguing is the pineal gland also generates something called harmalene And harmaline is what's known as a mono oxidize inhibitor. In the sense it's an MAO inhibitor and effectively what this does is just like one of the constituents of ayahuasca, which also contains an MAO inhibitor, is that effectively facilitates the way in which DMT can be diffused within brain. So this intriguing stuff

15:05 and it clearly now shows that dimethyltryptamine is in fact a neurotransmitter. And indeed the human brain is designed to have this because there's things called trace amine associated receptors in the brain, these are receptor sites in the neurons and these are designed specifically like a key is to a lock to actually work directly with dimethyltryptamine So, as Rick Strassman once said you know that there's evidence to say that dimethyltryptamine is the modulator by which we modulate really the brain modulates reality. There seems to be powerful evidence now this is the case Yeah man, that is awesome and super fascinating because I've been hearing about this for a while and it was speculation for a long time but it seems like now we've got some hard data. And I keep hearing that at the heart of a lot of secret societies a big part of the hidden knowledge they preside over involves the pineal gland in its importance and it seems like conventional science might be catching up to that which is pretty awesome

16:01 Totally and that's why I'm so excited about the book is what i do is a bring the two together in the sense that i review than you are like neurology of everything but i on top of that dealing great detail with secret societies for instance some other symbolism this could be serious for instance and the twin snakes because there's a link here directly also with the Kundalini experience. There is also a very, very powerful link to the way in which the brain actually functions now you will see the sign of the caduceus everywhere You know the idea of two twin snakes actually coming together while going up a central pole

16:42 There's a kind of, the two heads of the snakes come together when there is a circle. And that's the pineal gland Now if you start seeing the symbolism that way you will see exactly how powerful this is. And I suspect that this has been known for centuries, you know? You look into Masonic symbolism in fact there's two or three buildings in New York I've discovered that actually has pineal gland symbolism on the side of the buildings which were designed by one of the world's leading Masonic architects Yeah, so clearly that there is a link here with Masons. In fact in Masonic symbolism there's something called the Hercules Pillars

17:23 which is in fact there is a pub in central London that I used to drink and call the Hercules Pillars. And this is the major pub opposite the Grand Masonic Hall in Hoban, in London. And effectively you walk into the pub and you can actually see these two symbols and it's the Ida and the Pingala which effectively again are the twin channels by which um... The Kundalini force goes up the spine through the body to enlighten the pineal gland Damn man. And it is super interesting because you know I live here in San Diego and i'm two hours outside of LA but there is a massive, massive mall in LA and it has this picture that I believe comes from the Sumerians It's like five stories tall on the side of this building

18:07 I think one has a big beard and the other one looks like a falcon but he's holding a pine cone like he's trying to give it to someone, and then the other hand is holding like a bucket. And every time i see that im like... That is so ironic because marketing and consumerism and all this mall shit its almost directly opposed to enlightenment and things that the Pineal might unlock for us So its kinda funny that i see that all the time Oh, in times with the Sumerian symbolism. I mean this is symbolism of Marduk and of course if you start looking into the old Sumerian legends you actually get into the Anunnaki and the idea of people actually genetically engineering people for want of a better term now this again fascinates me because I think this can be linked directly back to DNA

18:58 And in fact, a lot of the individuals and I have had a similar experience myself not with dimethyltryptamine but using the Lucid Light device which I touched upon last time. And of course the Lucid Light device as far as I'm aware and I am very strongly believer this actually stimulates the pineal gland to excrete dimethyltryptamine Now, when I had this effect, I had very vivid dreams after using the machine and I was dreaming of snakes. This is exactly the kind of symbolism that if you go down to the indigenous peoples in the Amazon basin it's one thing they continually talk about is the snakes and how the snakes are your totem creatures etc.

19:42 There's powerful symbolism and I believe it's DNA communicating with us. I think we are tools for DNA, DNA is what we really are and it is a way of communicating with our own DNA not only this but I think that there is link here to something called bio photons and the give because look at DNA gives off light and it gives off photons. On top of that, I'm working very closely now with a guy called Professor Irvin Laszlo who you may have heard of? Douglas Goldstein I have heard him. Haven't had him on the show yet but he's a fascinating guy. Dr. Ian Sheldon Oh totally! You might be interested to know that Irvin and I in two weeks time over the weekend at the end of March we are launching the new paradigm concept at the University of Milan in Italy

20:27 and we've got leading psychologists, neurologists particle physicists all spending a weekend presenting this new model of what Irving calls the Akashic Paradigm. The idea that the zero point field is an information field and everything we perceive is actually drawn up from the information field And I'm suggesting that our processor that gives us access to this information field is the pineal gland Wow, that is super interesting stuff man. There is so much more meat on these bones We're gonna have to do a longer show I mean the pineal is a fascinating thing all the symbolism what it might mean the power behind it Yeah, we could go on forever but thanks so much for stopping in to do this man. I always try to

21:15 I always try to keep tabs on your work through my Facebook feed and you never fail to get my mind going, man. Thank you very much Greg it's great to talk to you and congratulations on the 100th show as well! Thanks so much man! Congratulations thank you and do you want to give the people some info about your books and website before we let you go? Yeah no absolutely uh... The book is called The Infinite Minefield it's available in US bookshops and book shops around world as well which is really great My website is AnthonyPeake.com, that's Anthony with an H and Peake, P-E-A-K-E dot com And also join me on Facebook I'm extremely active on there and i'm continually posting bits of information as it comes through to me So please join in Very cool Anthony you're the man! Definitely one my favorite guests from the first 100 and we'll do again next 100 so thanks again man take care Thanks Greg see ya bye

22:08 Back with us again is Neil Sanders, mind control researcher and author of Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own Volumes 1 & 2. Neil was with us for THC 86 Dark Secrets Of The Hollywood Mind Control Machine and it really was one of my favorites. Neil thanks so much for stopping by for this! Oh no thank you very much for asking me back Yeah man it's been like I guess Maybe three or four months since we talked and i just saw the story yesterday that i knew i had to ask you about since we talked about the pedophilia tendencies of the elite and for the people who don't know. this super rich and privileged hedge fund manager named Jeffrey Epstein was caught having his people bring him in almost a constant stream of underage girls, and this happened a few years ago but now it comes out through the courts that Bill Clinton was a close friend of this guy has flown over to his private mansion on a secluded island several times. And I doubt it was just a pop-in and say hello you know? Well quite...I mean the interesting thing about Epstein is there were a few cases one that he actually served time for

23:11 But he was also accused of paying off underage prostitutes as well and The FBI actually looked into it And they found at least 20 or the girls that they could have approached before every reason They didn't he struck a plea bargain, and did that nature this plea bargain made meant that it kept all these other celebrity friends out of An embarrassing court case shall we say Right. Yeah, it's a different set of rules for guys at that level because you know as a hedge fund manager the guy has got millions in the bank he is hobnobbing with politicians and it's kind of fucked up and another detail that came out in court cases apparently this guy had a woman on his staff who would just collect pictures of these young girls and maintain them like a menu and this woman was invited to Chelsea Clinton wedding

24:02 And even Prince Andrews has stayed at this guy's house after he was arrested as a pedophile. It's just crazy! Yeah, well apparently Prince Andrew and him were business partners and it was all terribly embarrassing because obviously he had no idea... There is actually a picture of one of the girls that uh... was speaking about it is named for junior roberts and uh... basically she does a picture of her satsang prince andrews lap and uh... he's uh... coping hub breast although it was all in good james apparently there's no suggestion that he did anything uh... onto order or legal right you know he'd be maintained his friendship them and said business ties with without starting even after each deep into prison

24:46 Clinton apparently broke all ties when he went to prison because, you know, he found it a little bit too hot for his particular tastes. Apparently though when this was reported in the British press there was a fabulous picture of Clinton with two prostitutes from one of the legal brothels in Nevada which is a classy look for him. Wow yeah And there's a lot of concerns if Hillary tries to run that we'll hear more about this kind of stuff. I'd get the impression the Clintons have got like darker secrets in their cupboards, you know meaner Arkansas for one and the huge amount of people that died in the Whitewater investigations including a lot of Hillary Clinton staff.

25:36 I can't confirm this but I've heard from several people that the only law enforcement agents who died during the Waco siege were actually Hillary Clinton's bodyguards. I'm not sure that, I can't confirm that but that's certainly what i've been told. Right wouldn't be surprising and that's the thing. Are there any other stories or news segments that have caught your attention in this dark secrets of the elite type a wheelhouse recently? Well I mean these ongoing pedophilia cases in England

26:14 They've started to make noise about a beloved and world-famous British pop star. There's been rumours of different names flying around for a long time, obviously there is the Elm House scandal which was It was basically a guest house that was in England, that seemed to cater to the predilections of pedophiles but bizarrely it was advertised in a conservative magazine. The Conservative Party Magazine which is one of the political parties in England with coded messages that could imply that it was a brothel

26:53 I don't know if it's reached across the state but Jimmy Savile was a huge star in England. This is quite old now, but more and more things keep coming out about him. friends with the royals, he was just had carte blanche to do anything he wanted in the BBC due his huge amount of charitable work and like apparently. And after very shortly after his death in England it came out that he's possibly one of the worst pedophiles that has ever existed. You know he was using his influence to attack children at schools and care homes

27:32 and in hospitals, disabled children and girls that had gone on his show. Hundreds of people connected to a lot of charitable hospitals and such like that apparently using this influence to basically do what he wanted Also involved with that were several MPs, Peter Morrison who wasn't an MP but he was an aide to Thatcher and it came out that basically other MPs like Edwina Currie knew that he was a paedophile before he was hired as an aide to Thatcher and suggested perhaps this wasn't the best look but then didn't really do anything about it.

28:13 Cyril Smith, who was an MP, it turned out that not only was he a paedophile but he was being protected by MI5. Anybody that basically made a claim against him in public was shut down quite quickly and then other people... Wilfred Bramble, Step Tonison the old man in Steptoe and Son, apparently he was connected to certain care homes perhaps the care home in Jersey where there was a big scandal a few years ago where they apparently found human bones but then this was later poo-pooed. It transpired that police made mistake and they mistook a lump of coconut shell for for child's skull you know it is easily done You've got all that forensic technology and these things just happen sometimes Right! It was swamp gas...it was weather balloon

29:00 There's always some interesting cover story, but it is a messed up world man. I know this is a short segment and I really wanted to ask you about social media as it relates to being a mind control tool which was something that we touched on at the end of our last episode but since then I've seen some legitimate studies come out and measure some of these negative effects just confirming what you had to say y'know? You will quite, I mean you know that's where I got the information anyway from sort of Harvard studies and legitimate studies that prove it increases depression and narcissism because basically your molds the particular output that you have to fit the best response basically. And everybody does even very subtly as we probably discussed before

29:48 This basically tells your brain subconsciously that the altered, streamlined media-friendly version of you is perhaps a better look for you than your normal sort of day affair. One thing that I've recently thought about particularly Facebook and Twitter is that it seems to mimic the Kubark document. The Kubark document was a CIA manual use for the interrogation of prisoners of war and torture, and also for breaking the psyche. And what it suggests is that you need to combine isolation and overstimulation You put somebody in solitary confinement and keep them in perpetual daylight and feed them white noise

30:33 And so you overstimulate the brain, but they're isolated. So they've got no release mechanism for it, no sort of interaction or social method of getting rid of this tension and that's basically exactly what Facebook and Twitter and all these things do because you're locked in there It's a solo pursuit really, so you're isolated and you hugely overstimulated because you basically trying to juggle plates and get opinions and arguments and debates going. And trying to keep up and watch that fabulous new clever YouTube video with the dog running about under messing of the bed and stuff like that. You know got to keep up with these things if you don't

31:16 What's the latest retro Jordan or anything like that? You need to know these things, they're important. And so basically it's bombarding you and that's precisely what the end result appears to be is a combination of isolation over stimulation which is a curious coincidence. Yeah man, that is super interesting I always used to think that the internet was their one big fuck up giving us access to all that information but now I'm starting to wonder if the pros for the elite don't outweigh the cons This is another thing is that basically by giving all this information like it to an extent it's it. It neutralizes it because basically everybody suddenly has access to a element of it and it becomes the genre with you know we sort of briefly touched on this before but the

32:04 The proliferation of mainstream conspiracy programs and such has meant that everyone can go, you know, Ancient Aliens. I like this show to be quite honest it's very entertaining but like Ancient Aliens gives people a forum for dismissal because oh it's that silly ancient alien show But it also basically, you know, it talks about certain aspects of it to the point where it's now just a reasonable discussion in the same way as you might get into an argument about somebody sports team or whatever. It is now their opinion on uh... the jfk assassination nine eleven or whatever and to that extent east was quite clever about that is deed the proliferation of it to an extent reduces its suit to just a at chat about culture rather than a crime you know he tried to see how many changes to this session on their so yet uh... yes is strange uh... but said

33:01 Yeah, maybe it wasn't a complete mess on their part. Yeah that is a great point I hadn't thought about before but we've only had social media for like 10 years and it seems like they're already getting it more finely tuned for their purposes How would you see it evolving in the next 5 or 10 years if you would guess? Well...I think it's gonna be less permanent perhaps and more catered towards this tiny attention spans people have Someone was showing me this thing, Snapchat or something where you take a photo but it only stays on there for so long so you have to respond quickly or it disappears. I may have got that completely wrong. No thats right! Do you know what I mean? Oh is that right?! Yeah. That just seems stupid do you know what I mean? Thats quite clever actually because thats works in the same way as Farmville and all those games because its a game thats whats social media is. Its a psychological game that you need to win and your playing really against yourself if you think about

34:01 But the thing about Farmville and apparently Snapchat by the sounds of it, although I'm no expert on it. You have to stay in the game... you lose if you leave the game! Do you see what I mean? In Farmville, if you go out of the game your crops die so you have to do repetitive tasks in order just maintain the same level And so, you know there's no enjoyment. Games like that are designed... they're not designed to make you enjoy them They're designed to make you frightened to leave them and they're based on the principle of a Skinner box essentially and after awhile after you've... but first two times you um You give the rat presses the lever and he gets uh a piece of cheese Yeah The third time it gets nothing The fourth time it gets piece of cheese The fifth time it get electric shock

34:51 And what's bizarre is that like normal logic dictates at that point you'd stop, but you don't because of the increased variables. You tend to panic and so you just press it more often in the hope that basically you'll get there, um... ...you know, that you'll get the reward at some point and that's-that's same principle that works with these computer games to lock people in. Yeah we are so easily manipulated sometimes Well, you know they've got a lot of practice. It's wild man but definitely some stuff people should be conscious of for sure are there any other threads you've been pulling on that you'd like to mention before we go man? Any new books in the works or anything like that

35:27 Very, very early stages of a book examining the Charles Manson case and then I've been looking at some more stuff to do with advertising and a lot more of the tricks that they use. I'll just give you one. Aside from the fact that basically calories and such like that and nutritional value What it says on the packet is not necessarily, you've got to look at what it is in relation to portion. So often basically it'll contain three portions but they'll tell you that's like a third of your daily allowance for fat but it won't make it explicitly clear that its actually three portions so you eat it thinking I only had my third or whatever and you've actually had your entire daily allowance so to speak

36:14 One of the other things I found out recently is that basically if it says 0.0 grams of trans fat or something like that on a label, that can be up to 0.5 grams of trans fat because legally you're allowed to round down. All these little tips and tricks like this weird stuff they have gotten away with doesn't make any sense sometimes! Well, it's very clever use of language isn't it? That's one thing that people need to understand is the language is the cornerstone of understanding. It's used for the construction of everything, it's a very glib explanation but its a constructivist argument and basically the argument against this is no that's not true and people bang on tables and say death in tables, death in furniture is the argument against it

37:09 The point is that you can't explain even things that are as fundamental as death and furniture. They're rooted in language and people's understanding of language, what does death mean? Does it mean when the brain stops? Does it mean when the heart stops? Does it mean immediately after you've been stabbed? Is it 24 hours after? When rigor mortis sets in? Right. Is a person in a coma dead? you know, etc. So it's a discussion that actually has its social agreement to an extent even very fundamental things like a table You had to explain why we needed that table and what its use is And why can use this in the society for it to be made? In the construction process you have to explain What tools are needed and where to get them ect... That ties into Walter Lippmann thing which is basically the fundamental principle

38:02 use of language and you should have pictures painting pictures in people's heads because that's how people understand the world again it's a very good explanation but if you describe terrorist with the news media describes a terrorist that's the picture that you get a terrorist because she never met a terrorist so is very unlikely to give me a terrorist So how would you know what that is without somebody informing you so you have this? Informed knowledge this the secondary knowledge This is given to you and that basically becomes the parameters by which you live your life And this can extend to everything from social roles to

38:40 to how to act and how to interact, to what is the definition of a successful person. To what is the definition of a happy person? And again by the utilization of this and it's the things that are really fundamental things that people don't think about and that's their key to it. Is they're so ubiquitous that people don't assume there multiple levels of explanation to these things. Yeah, man well said it's something we deal with every day but its effects are greatly taken for granted especially when they've been finely tuned over decades from well-trained people who want to manipulate us in certain ways so yeah

39:20 Yeah, I could talk about it all day man. But it's been a real pleasure Thanks for doing this Hopefully we can talk again in the future on another full show Do you want to give the people your website real quick or anything? Oh, yes Thank You very much. Yes Neil Sanders mind control calm awesome Well, thanks again man one of my favorite guests take care yourself No, thank you, man. Thank you. All right have a good one Black coffee Alright folks, you might remember Kevin Annett from episode 48 The Catholic Conspiracy Vatican Crimes and the Pope's Resignation where we talked about the many crimes of the Catholic Church their pedophilia ring and Kevin's campaign to bring these elite criminals to justice through the courts. It has been almost a full year since we talked to him how are things going with your noble crusade man?

40:10 Really well, we've got some great new developments and we're just happy next week is the first anniversary of the indictment of Pope Benedict and his resignation that same month. So you know, we're showing that this really does have an effect." And now that we've had this new pope for a year some people have alluded to this being a new chapter for the church I mean he's made some bold statements but i mean... Have you seen any evidence it changed? Because I'm pretty skeptical There's no evidence at all, it's mostly talk. As a matter of fact last month the Vatican Curia that's the College of Cardinals came out and with a public statement saying that the comments the Pope makes about policy in the church in no way will affect the standing policies in Catholic Church In other words they're saying he is making a personal comment but its not going to change church policy

40:56 As a matter of fact, the Pope also tightened up the rules on reporting child rape. So it's now possible to go to prison — Vatican Prison if you're an honest priest and report child rape. There is the appearance then there is reality behind it. Wow! Apparently the UN just recently demanded a crackdown on Catholic Church child molesting cover-up. Do you think that will offer any real justice or is that just lip service also? Well, again it's the same old problem. There is no enforcement You know they kind of slapped the hand to the Vatican but they have no way of forcing them to do anything They could've actually expelled the Vatican from the UN They could've revoked their diplomatic status They could've brought sanctions against them But they didn't do any of that And that's the kinda thing we need to do Yes, they clearly don't think its that big a deal No Man has pedophilia in church slowed at all?

41:46 on the contrary you know we have uh... every indication that this is stuff has just gone underground more but it's rampant like in the conviction of william lynn of philadelphia bishop with a couple of quarter of the priesthood philadelphia involved an act of child trafficking up hundreds justin that area alone so no it's it's rampant and that there's no time that could diminish especially since the present pope is doing everything possible to to reinforce the you know policy protecting child rapists Right, he's saying one thing but completely doing another. I mean it's no surprise...I mean this thing goes on for decades why in one short year would there be any change at all? But has there been any pressure from the people at all have you seen? You're leading this campaign has there been increased attention paid to it and significant accountability being held?

42:37 by the people? the present pope regard we all when he was an argentina he helped traffic that children of political prisoners been held by the military hotel there's no witnesses about that in spain and we're gonna be contacted him in working with them in our next common law court case against the president pope while trafficking the children a political prisoners that is pretty dark stuff man than any other uh... big revelations are new evidence against the church you've come across last year

43:23 Yeah, well actually people go to our website. It's ITCCS.org You can see something that we exposed over the last few weeks when the predecessor Pope Benedict was in England in 2010 he actually made an agreement with Queen Elizabeth that their protect the child rapist policy would be extended to the anglican church as well uh... because it as you met may or may not know the anglican churches trying to get back into the into the catholic church but in order to do that they go to agree to protect their child rape increase as well so i mean it's a direct violation of this woman's coronation oath she should

43:59 forced to abdicate immediately for doing that, let alone to bring the Church of England back into the Church of Rome. So I mean all this stuff is coming out now and you know it's... You know the old saying they can run but they can't hide? Yeah! Someone recently had said to me on a show people playing a rigged game get sloppy and it seems like yeah there just They don't really care at all because they know that the law is on their side, that they control those people. I mean how much power does the individual have? I've heard you talk about citizens arrests before has that had any success? Well, definitely it's beginning to. We've set up...we had a tremendous response all over the world of people setting up the common law courts in their communities to bring in indictments against for example known child raping priests in their neighborhood there have been attempts at places like Coventry England Kitchener Ontario and Canada and New York City as well to go in and actually

44:56 enforce these warrants we've spoken to the police the police have our on board once we show them the evidence so this is really in the works it's developing, obviously something that big picture was a developer we are getting more people coming forward all the time help. It's really crazy stuff, man. I mean this thing has been biting at the heels of the Catholic Church for decades and decades How deep does this go? Are they supplying kids to the political classes that seems pretty evident Yeah oh yeah there is a you know we have

45:33 a whole branch of what we're doing in the Kamala Court, and that's investigating child trafficking and ritual abuse and child sacrifice cults. And we have eyewitnesses who are part of these things, and definitely time and again Catholic cardinals and bishops and priests very active in these networks Because, you know if you have a policy in the Catholic Church that says it's okay to protect child rapists and you're obligated to Naturally everybody in the world with that band is going to go in and get ordained And find a haven there for their kind of sickness. So yeah There's that whole network It's international and very lucrative and we're beginning to pull the lid off on some of this stuff

46:15 Wow, yeah. I mean if for someone who wants to do that kind of thing leading a Sunday Mass is a small price to pay to get your own room and board and children supplied to you whenever you choose So are they getting most these kids from well first let me ask you are most of these just kids that are being abused when they're in the presence of the priest or are these kids who were being taken from say orphanages or something like that and being traumatized for their whole youth? Well, that's right. There is a very large human trafficking network occurring through Catholic orphanages and foster home systems. That's one of the things we're documenting but within any Catholic parish, a child can be abused and there is nothing the parent can do about it they are prohibited from going to the police or they'll be excommunicated if you could imagine that The priest will be fired if he mentions this to anybody So I mean its operating right in the Catholic Church system as well as their orphanage and other agencies

47:11 Yeah, it seems like they've got a pretty ironclad cap put down on this and you know of course they've got the power so they had the time to make sure that their crimes are covered up. It's a damn shame but its great that your out there doing this man I appreciate you coming by for quick chat on our 100th episode You're fighting a noble fight man keep hitting them where it hurts! Do you want to let people know about your website and where they can keep up with ongoing investigations? Yep, you can go to the Tribunal website. That's the International Tribunal on the Crimes of Church and State. It's www.itccs.org I'm also on the road over the next month or two all through North America and Europe And if people want to get a hold of me we can let you know where were working in your area We've got common law courts forming all over My email is hiddenfromhistory1 like the number one hidden from history 1 at gmail.com

48:09 Well, that's inspiring stuff man. I hear a lot of talk it's great to see people out there that are you know putting the pedal to the metal we're getting action from you which is something that a lot of people are just tweeting about but it's good to see you out there trying to get this thing resolved. Sure well thank you Greg! You got it take care Well, it is an honor now to spend a few more minutes with the great Jacque Fresco and the wonderful Roxanne Meadows of The Venus Project fame. Two of my favorite people working to dig the monetary systems in the power structures of the world in early grave, a noble cause in my book they were kind enough to spend the full hour with us way back when on episode 47 and have humbled me once again by stopping for a quick minute on this special THC milestone thanks so much guys welcome back

48:59 Thank you very much. Yes, we really appreciate it Craig! So recently you guys had a Kickstarter campaign which reached its goal which is very awesome what else has been going on lately for the Venus Project? Well, we're developing our teams all over the world for The Venus Project and the Point of Contacts. We have various groups of people who are working on different activities, people who keep up to Facebook and put something every three hours on it which is amazing! And you know we have a translation team the TVP media group that does music and posters and videos. A lot to get involved with if you're interested in this direction, you'd like to help. Yeah! And we have a magazine

49:47 Right, I noticed that as well. It seems like a lot of people are coming together to create some great content around the Venus Project under the umbrella and I know you guys have been at this for a long time but it appears as though people are becoming more aware of the inherent flaws with traditional systems at an exponential rate just in the last couple years Are you guys feeling that way too? Yes, I think more people know about this direction You know, after it was introduced in several documentaries there's been lots of spin off groups that advocate similar things and a lot of media and a lot of interest. And of course

50:24 It kind of came out when economies started getting worse. So people, you know, people lost their jobs and became disillusioned with the politicians being able to solve problems and lost their homes so that's what makes people turn towards different alternatives look for something else right? Unfortunately a lot of people don't get on board until yeah they face some really tough times But what are some of the major hurdles you have when trying to reach people who might not get it right away. I'll get into the media where the media doesn't accept what i have to say, i'm against cigarettes and i am against the effects of cigarettes on my human body reduces heart disease

51:16 and cancer, it may take 10 or 15 years but it does have negative effects. Why does the government if it loves its people permit the sale of cigarettes? Because they have taxes! They collect money on them so the monetary system could be very detrimental to the well-being of people In terms of economics, I personally run into a lot of people when i'm talking about it who see the same type of corruption as you or I do but they're fixated on the idea that an unrestricted free market is the real solution. How do you win over someone who's stuck in that mindset? You have to have a lot of time and avoid arguments with people for example

52:06 Before I worked with the clan, they said you're a smart guy Jack what do you think of the clan? I said it was a great idea but it doesn't go far enough. That gets their ear if you attack you lose contact. Also These people who think you can just let the market go free, I think during Reagan's time and during Bush's time the results were not too good. And they don't understand that it's the... You have to look at the overall picture of the capitalistic

52:43 money system that is so detrimental. They think that this perhaps can make everyone become wealthy, it can't at all the divide is getting much worse and because of that divide there's a A lot of people who are suffering when they don't have money for their necessities. And this is the evolution of the monetary system, you really can't make it just, you can't make it equitable. It's the system that causes the problems You know, just being poor there's so many statistics and so many studies out there showing that a deprived background causes all sorts of heart diseases. Causes the environmental degradation problems, the pollution

53:31 The radioactive waste, we could be off of oil and anything. The energy systems that are detrimental it's not because we can't sustain ourselves on energy systems that are clean. We can those statistics have been done as well so there is a value system that goes along with this system you know, competition and winners and losers. It's really terrible for people especially when we have the technological ability to produce abundance as long as you have a system that maintains scarcity You're going to have it deprived and war deprivation in people's way of thinking and war all over the world As you're seeing when you have scarce resources is not to bring some noble

54:21 consequences to another country such as democracy when we don't even have it here. It's for the fight of scarce resources in other countries, you look at where we've invaded it's where the oil is, its where the oil pipelines are, it's all to maintain a market where you have cheap labor. You know, one of the biggest criticisms that I face or one of the biggest hurdles I face when I'm trying to talk about The Venus Project outside of the free market issue is a lot of people just tell me that they don't think there are enough resources to go around. I've had several guests on this show kind of swat that idea down. Is there any statistics? Are there any facts you know about the amount of resources on the planet that might ease those concerns for some people?

55:13 We have technology today that can produce all kinds of goods and services. If you go to any large department store, you will see their shelves are loaded with apparatus with gadgets that the public can use but the public doesn't have purchasing power and they can't sustain a system without purchasing power The more automation you put in a plant, the less people have purchasing power. In other words if you continue to automate which is much cheaper to do than to pay people because people go off smoking they go into the washroom and need air conditioning Automation doesn't need anything like that so we think they will keep putting in automation

56:04 And if they keep doing that, they will decrease the purchasing power of the people laid off and they won't be able to buy the products that we manufacture. That's a problem. Yes and you know... The values in the way we look at the world and the way we think is to perpetuate the systems that we live under. All the red flags that people come up with that this is a utopian there aren't enough resources It's to keep things as they are and not try anything else. But they are true, to a certain extent that if you keep depleting resources the rate that we're doing because of having to continuously sell in this system to keep the market going... If people stopped buying, that would be the end of this system so they keep putting out new...

56:59 planned obsolescence for things to wear out and break down. They have planned obsolescence in the way of fashion, you put out a new car every year and you compete with other cars who are doing the same function. You know, you don't need all those different manufacturers doing a car it's a complete waste of resources. And then you need to advertise which is a waste of resources if you produce what people needed and make things that did not wear out areas that are libraries, when you need something you use it and bring it back or it's automatically brought back so more people can use it. And the example that Jock always uses too in terms of lawnmowers, you have a community they want to sell a lawn mower to every home. Jock talks about well if you just have three or four large lawnmowers to take care of a whole city or community

57:49 lawnmower industry wouldn't like that. And then Jack goes even farther when he says what he would do in science is to devise grass that doesn't grow any larger than an inch and a half, there are ways of solving problems if you put science solving problems for society they're not put on that they're put on industry to gain profit for that particular industry Yes, and mostly weapons as well. So we haven't turned science and technology loose on how to make a society that conserves energy that maintains a high standard of living for everybody on the planet and uses the resources that we have We could have a tremendously high standard of living if you did that And if you thought differently and you organized your resources differently

58:44 Yeah, absolutely we could. I just want to mention one other thing too the UN put out a study where they said in 2030 we would need 45% more energy and 50 percent more resources and food and something like 30 percent more water because the population will increase from 7 billion to 9 and we would have three more earths To sustain that. So if we, that's really if we continue doing things as a way we are but if we reorganize society to use our resources wisely, we wouldn't have that problem. We've just never had that

59:30 We've never given that problem to science. Yeah, I'm with you now obviously we have to get a lot more people involved and on board but there is a lot of passion and a lot of necessity out there right now things are tough are there any plans beyond the education phase that you guys are working on? Well, we do have lots of plans. Jacques has been luckily doing that all of his life and backing it up technically We have lots of blueprints, we have lots of designs for first cities and technical solution to the problems that we have today

1:00:05 We're working on a movie as well and that's coming along. It's longer process than we had hoped for, but we have some people on board and producers and writers that are really doing a good job so We do have plans, but we don't have funds. And within the monetary system you need funds to take certain things further that would make it easier than just having volunteers. There's so many people that are volunteering and working so hard because they believe in this direction they want it to happen. They understand if they wanted to come about, you have to work toward it. So we have a lot of people doing that

1:00:46 Yeah, I wonder if a direction was set. If land was grabbed? If there were enough people in the Venus Project army to actually volunteer and set up a test city have you looked into that at all? We would need funding to do this and it would have to be under... You know we've had people come to us to use Jack's designs for another agenda and we have turned that down. And it would have to be under the name of The Venus Project, the nonprofit organization so it wasn't owned by industries today. So it is a big hurdle to get over but we are working on it as well if we did have the funding and we did have the land

1:01:33 We really wouldn't want to do it as a hand-tooled community. We would want to do it as a first rate community using the best of technology, to show what we wanna do and within the First City, we see it as a research center and all out push toward Developing the next city, making it better. Within this system we could license out total city systems to keep the Venus project going too you know? We'd have to work between systems it really just depends on a lot of things

1:02:09 Right, and we are in some pretty funky times right now. I don't know if you guys have heard the news but i thought of The Venus Project right away! The state of Utah has determined that it's cheaper to give homeless people a free home and a social worker than it is to pay for them on the street And I think that's great they're actually turning homelessness around by giving away free homes in the state of Utah That's some pretty inspirational news and gets us towards that transition into our resource-based economy I agree with you. We did hear that and that is a very good departure, different way of thinking, different way of handling it they're just finding out that its too expensive and not working the way they are doing it which they'll have to buck their heads against the wall to understand that

1:02:56 Right. Well, you know every day that passes it becomes more and more obvious that our system is failing and we need new sustainable long-term models for a successful humanity And I don't know anybody who's out there doing a better job and further down the road than you guys are So thanks again for stopping in Is there anything else you'd like to leave the people with before? We let you go. We didn't want to kill anybody or hurt anybody We want to make a system that works. And the way you do that is you do a survey first of how many people there are on Earth, how much facilities we have, how much air will land and how much water? Then we have to balance out those things so that everybody has access to clean air, clean water and good healthy food without artificial coloring or flavoring in it

1:03:47 A noble cause. Well, Roxanne, Jacques thanks so much for being here! Thank you Greg we appreciate it Thanks for the opportunity All right take care guys and good luck Thanks bye-bye Now we're welcoming back Jim Elvidge for a few minutes. He was my guest on THC 80, the programmed universe and simulation theory definitely one of my favorite shows where Jim made the case that we could be living in a very convincing holographic reality and after he broke my brain once I thought it'd be great to check in on him again. Jim, my man how you doing?

1:04:34 I'm doing great Greg, thanks very much for having me back on. It's a pleasure Of course yeah! Love that last episode you are a gentleman and scholar Jim and it hasn't been that long since we talked but are there any new angles to fringe and cutting edge science that you've been focusing on recently that you can school us on? Well, kind of more the same I suppose. There seems to be an awful lot of evidence different kinds of theories, different people looking at nature reality that's coming out of the woodwork these days. Mathematicians are finding that string theory and various theories of multiple dimensional realities

1:05:21 are very similar and kind of imply a digital reality. If you just Google something like simulation or digital reality, you find all kinds of things now that are being researched so it's really pretty interesting. And one of the things I've been doing lately is there is blog and podcast called The Speculist and it sort of focuses on futurism if you're familiar with them. They're putting together a book this year called The World Transformed, and they've asked 100 authors and futurists to contribute to it so I wrote an article for that. Awesome!

1:06:00 Yeah, the nature of the article is basically kind of what we were talking about before that. That the idea that we live in this sort of consciousness-driven digital reality is actually a step forward in human evolution. I mean, the recognition that this might be the case could be a real step forward in human evolution and thatís what the paperís about So I spend a little time kind of giving a set of arguments for the case that we are living in that kind of reality and then talk about, well what does it mean? What does it mean to people if that were really true how would things change. And changes really could be pretty significant

1:06:43 Yeah, of course. And when we were talking... When we were emailing back and forth you are telling me it was a little bit in the transhumanism wheelhouse about the idea of consciousness transfer into artificial receptors which is really interesting because it got me thinking about how people focus on the singularity like there will be computers built that are more advanced than like a human brain But being able to put human consciousness into a computer, that's really the same thing. Like we don't have to create new consciousness from the ground up if we can just transport it into a machine that's immortality right there.

1:07:23 And the interesting thing is to think about what consciousness really is. There's an awful lot of research along these lines as well that shows that consciousness is not something that emerges from the brain, despite some articles you might read about it. There are studies now where people are able to look at brain activity under certain circumstances. So they'll use functional magnetic resonant imaging, fMRIs to look at what's the brain activity going on in various regions of the brain when certain things happen? And they've even found people who can kind of go out of their body and the

1:08:06 the scientific community or sort of the materialism community comes to the conclusion that well because we're seeing uh... the brain light up in certain regions when somebody goes out of body that means that you know that experience must emanate from from the brain it must be you know a uh... brain driven experience but doesn't mean that at all i mean i could look at i could put my the circuit board in myself on a telescope and when it comes message comes in something's gonna light up but that doesn't mean the text messages originated in my cell phone right so

1:08:41 But the evidence to the contrary is actually really significant. Near-death experiences and out of body experiences, multiple personality disorders all these kinds of things indicate that consciousness is really separate so when you start thinking about what consciousness is and that it's really occupying a virtual, I'm gonna say virtual physical body. Then when you think about well what's the difference between occupying that and occupying a virtual silicon based organism? It's almost no difference so what consciousness really is it's a complex set of organized data and that can fit in a lot of different places

1:09:31 Yeah, it's kind of scary though because it's really vague what part of you is your consciousness and what part of you is your brain. Or what... You know, your personality? Is that part of your consciousness? It's really interesting like if we could take consciousness and upload it into something artificial who really knows what that would turn out like! Well, actually that's a great question and one of the things I did some research on recently. I wrote a blog about this is called Nature, Nurture or Neither? And a lot of people focus on well is this nature or nurture? Is the propensity to commit crimes or you know some aspect of your personality because it genetics or because of environment that you were brought up in

1:10:18 And from some of the studies on identical twins and even fraternal twins, basically the studies kind of lend you to scratch your head a lot. It doesn't seem to be either one and it's my feeling that it isn't Yes, sure. Environment shapes our behavior. Genetics shape our behavior. There are definite correlations that show that but the correlations aren't enough to explain why one of an identical twin pair is drastically different from another of an identical twin pair that have the same genetics and brought up in the same environment. No, that personality, that aspect of their personality, their values, you know, their way of being, the wisdom they have maybe is probably something that transcends genetics and environment. It's outside of that it's a reincarnation type of thing

1:11:19 Yeah man, it's fascinating to think about. I really liked Ray Kurzweil's movie It is really weird! I hadn't thought about it until preparing to talk today but if Ray Kurzweil did implant his consciousness into some computer, what yeah? What would it we assume that it would be just like him but maybe there's tons of parts of him that are tons of things that made up this guy. Like those nurture aspects or things that formed his personality with those be transferred as well with those parts go away would get just pure consciousness and if we did like you know there's a lot of people in the Eastern philosophies and the psychedelic community that think at its

1:12:01 its core everything is just one source you know everything is connected it's weird to think like would we get just that portion of him that gets put into a machine like we really don't understand it enough to really tossing it around Yeah, I definitely kind of depart from the sort of reductionist singularity folks that they may view the digital reality concept as we're just kind of going along for a ride. The personality is basically an artifact of the complexity of the digital nature of our brain or something like that.

1:12:45 it makes a lot of sense to go to actually explain allot of the other evidence that out there if you really take an open-minded view and and and look at it all u you recognize that it's not they can't be explained by uh... justy you know digital reality that is um... uh... kind of materialistic today really is a consciousness externalist describing a lot of this but the thing that You know really interested me in this in this paper and the book The World Transformed was about you know. What does that mean how does that change things if that is true and if people start adopting that end?

1:13:27 you know one of them is the whole idea that immortality if u realized that your external consciousness exist beyond the death of your body then there's no point in trying to upload it into silicon they already exist separate uh... and how it imagine how that would change you know decisions in prairie but we we make here on earth you know all this money that week spend on life extension we could redirect toward wife instead medical industry you know that a putting people on a profitable maintenance plan they focus on curing diseases and improving overall quality of life um... so yet there's a lot of good they can come out of the

1:14:11 accepting or adopting this kind of philosophy. And I mean, honestly we in the West are kinda late to the game. The Buddhists, the Native Americans cultures around the world for long many many centuries have believed in this it's just a digital aspect of it that's kinda new twist Yeah, and I was thinking about that too. Like you know what if death is a seriously important part of the journey for our consciousness? You know dying might be like a butterfly's cocoon situation but how ironic would it be

1:14:52 to potentially bypass the reconnection to all things natural in exchange for a connection to all things artificial. That seems pretty human, right? We have the tendency to do that everywhere these days. Yeah exactly and if you think about it again from this consciousness driven digital philosophy concept why...why do we die well we die because If you think about sort of how the learning curve that we go through in our journey through life, it takes a little while for us to sort of populate our brand new brains as a child with the information that we need to carry forward and make decisions and think about things and discover and attain wisdom.

1:15:41 I mean, then we go into this sort of steep learning curve and then it kind of plateaus because we've already learned what were supposed to learn. We've maybe filled up our brain with a lot of stuff. We maybe developed some biases or whatever and so we're not going to learn much faster. So if the external consciousness at the point of that is to learn as much as possible by definition, it needs to kind of cut this life, this physical life experiment at the point where it kind of plateaus and start over and learn more in a different learning lab if you will. So if you look from that standpoint the whole idea reincarnation makes total sense because

1:16:28 Point of overall consciousness is to continue to evolve and the fastest way for it to evolve is to you know experience different situations Yeah, I totally lean that way too man. My head hurts and it's not even noon yet You win my man No, it's cool But thanks for stopping by Jim. I really appreciate it Do you want to remind the people about your website real quick? Oh Oh sure, yeah. The website is called theuniversesolved.com There's a forum on there where people exchange different ideas My blog is there Links to another blog where we have some guest bloggers There's an artificial intelligence you can talk to Links to other papers and things like that It's a bit of a portal for some of these ideas So feel free to check that out Right on! You're the man Alright thanks very much Greg

1:17:23 We got colored TV, but it still isn't satisfying. Born and lived... Man dies... And all vanity. Here we have Lennon Honor the man with the plan he was my guest on episode 72 where we talked about media manipulation cycles and some important family man issues and now He's been kind enough to appear on a hundredth episode special Lennon How are you man?

1:18:04 Oh, I'm doing just fine Greg. Thanks for having me it's a pleasure to talk with you again Of course man! I agree You're always throwing out A good honest perspective on what it means to be a stronger partner and a good family man in these troubled times rather than just being tossed around at society's whim like so many people allow themselves to be So I really enjoy your material man. I saw you just gave a big lecture 7 things every man can do to prepare for a positive relationship and I thought maybe we could talk about that a bit. Would you mind giving the people a little info about that presentation? Yes, yes so i have quite a few lectures and one of them is seven things every man can do to prepare for a positive relationship

1:18:43 how many of us males, we are programmed a lot of it has to do with medium and relation to always be in pursuit mode. We're always trying to find someone were always trying to make a relationship happen were always trying to find some woman somewhere but we don't take the time to actually prepare for positive relationship and so I go through process of sharing seven things that everything every man can do to actually prepare for positive relationship also outlined that is not about whether or not someone is deserving of a positive relationship. It's really about whether or not we are prepared and in life, whatever it may be its about preparation and if you are prepared for something then when we have it we can deal with it accordingly but if were not prepared even when we have it we're going to end up

1:19:27 failure. It will end in failure so that's what that lecture is about I provide seven things and the most important thing i have on the list, it's important for men to heal from past relationships with women um...that can be our mothers second be our sisters are aunts or grandmothers uh...so forth and so on so thats a number one thing any man can do was to heal from past relationships with women Yeah, I mean that's... there seems to be a lot of baggage carried around. What do you think contributes to that? You think that's basically again just people being caught up in society's version of what a positive male-female relationship should be? Yes, that's part of it. I would also say in terms of the baggage, a lot of has to do with social programming wherein men were not considered to be healers. In other words

1:20:15 The notion of healing concedes that you have been traumatized and therefore as a man somehow, that means that your less than the man because you have been traumatized. You see what I'm saying? It goes back to one of the topics we talked about in the last interview dealing with September 11th A lot of people don't want to talk about September 11 because it that it did stirs particular traumas in them but they don't necessarily want to deal with within the scope of male-female relationships if you've been traumatized by a woman by your mother by an ex by a past girlfriend by uh... your sister t's do these types of things uh... and then you can you after acknowledged the trauma for some men because social programming you'd unity it's almost like me and you don't feel that's what you don't do because you're less than a minute he did if you do well on here today or any man who man was listening here that if you've been traumatize

1:21:00 It weakens you as a man. If you heal yourself, you become strong again and you have to be strong in this sense in order to be prepared for a positive relationship. Yeah that's great advice and you mentioned the trauma... And last time we talked was right in the middle of that big Syria crisis where were going go war with Syria You know the media is trying to push it but people were pushing back And how do you see the media manipulation, and specifically on the trauma cycle? How is that manifesting now? Are there things going out there right now that are kind of preying upon resurrecting that trauma for people? Oh yes absolutely. So we talked about the 911 Fear-Based Mind Control Program and I talk about this inside my book for those who all... You can find a book on my website LennonHonor.com

1:21:46 com but there's two particular media cycles were in the retraumatization of the population of global population takes place around terrorism and terrorist threats so forth and so on uh... dish dot don't just give real quickly if there's to main cycles and they happen every single year in this is where in uh... mass media issues particular stories that trigger the trauma of september eleven two thousand one deferred the first cycle takes place within the four weeks leading up to may first of any given year the other side which is the main media cycle that takes place in the six weeks leading up to september eleven two thousand one right now there are some rumblings okay because they're at theirs the uh... the um... the olympics the winter olympics right anytime a lip x comes around this always is terrorist propaganda nothing ever happens but it still triggers a trauma september eleven now it's interesting because in addition to the olympics there's also particular movies imparted their television shows that are going to be revisited

1:22:40 within this time within the next let's say uh... three not two months leading and again will get intimate that the bill for we sitting them up into may first i was one outline to of one movie in one television show out one of the movies happens to be are captain america mhm so this is very specific happenin captain america's all about um... You know, what do they call this? You have to be patriotic about you know for America and there's always a superhero always a supervillainist ties through the super villain that we call Osama bin Laden The superhero in this sense would be Barack Obama. Okay, so Salman bin laden is death supposedly May 1st may 2nd So you always get this programming in the two weeks leading up to may first may second of any given year since this

1:23:23 so supposed ethical some of the line which was also a psy op now in addition to that there's also a television show that's coming back and that is that it'll be shows uh... twenty four okay and this is one of the most the preeminent propaganda is asian of the concept of terrorism uh... you know into over the last let's say last five years it actually ended they did that series but they're bringing it back right in time for me uh... first okay that's not by accident because what we're going to see is particular year there's going to be much more significant terms of the terrorist propaganda in that four weeks leading up into May 1st. This is perfectly predictable and y'all can watch it take place because today, what are we on February 22nd? You'll see a play out within those four weeks leading into may first

1:24:08 and if this happens every single year i should also mention that it's not like these types of stories don't take place during throughout the year terrorism so you know al-qaeda threats arab spring all of this propaganda is not that it doesn't happen at other times in the year but there'd be a k a heavy concentration in the four weeks leading up to may first which is associated with the supposed that the bosom abandoned of course on the line being associated as are being defined public and i said the mastermind is that 11th and so that triggers a trauma of September 11 but then we also have within the six weeks leading up to September 11, the same types of stories start to be infused into the news. It's perfectly predictable and it is concentrated stories about Al Qaeda, stories about terror threats unconfirmed you know probable and unconfirmed terror threat so forth and so on all this is outlined in the book those are two media cycles is perfectly predictable and y'all can watch it unfold right before your eyes I call it The Global Motion Picture Stage Show. And I love that

1:24:59 And another thing that ties into that and this terror propaganda, it was the Super Bowl. I mean talk about security theater all over the news they were talking about how much security there was and how dangerous of time it was...and then some journalist who just on a whim decided to see how far he could go went in the Super Bowl without a ticket right up to the press table and started talking to Mike about 9-11! It just goes to show you like All that money all that effort into security it is i think security theater is the perfect term because clearly. I could just walk up and talk if he wants to yes yes in it see that's a thing nothing ever happens i want people think about this,

1:25:40 Terrorism in the United States and even if you want to call September 11 terrorism because official version terms of what was propagandized absolutely fanciful But if you want to take that, if you want to use that and accept the official version Of September 11th. If you think about it It had there hasn't been a terrorist attack meaning Al Qaeda here in United States Let's just we're just gonna assume that what do you know? The propaganda nation of September 11 2001 was true Okay since September 11 2001 We're talking almost 13 years now and yet anytime there's a major sporting event, there is the Olympics. There is all of this propaganda about terrorism and nothing happens but still what does happen I'm not saying that I am saying nothing happens in terms of terrorism but what does happen is that people are put back into a state of fear and as I say inside the book The greatest means of control is not actualized through military might physical subjugation or brute force The greatest means of control is actualized

1:26:32 psychological manipulation of the global population. This psychological manipulation is actualized through fear itself, so if you can keep people in a state of perpetual fear, you re-traumatize them they're fearful they externalize power and that's how you maintain people inside a state of control I would dare say that the concept of global terrorism is a fallacy and yet people still become fearful whenever there's some sort of sporting event whenever they're anytime media reports on potential Al Qaeda attacks but nothing has happened for 13 years at least and the truth of the matter is it hasn't happened because September 11, 2001 was a psyops and had nothing to do with this mythical terrorist organization Al Qaeda or Osama Bin Laden aka Cobra Commander. This terrorist organization determined to rule the world welcome to The Global Motion Picture Stage Show. Well said man I totally agree with you

1:27:23 It's kind of messed up. The boogeyman doesn't seem to exist, but people are so focused on that what if? Well what if! I know nothing has happened but tomorrow could be the day and people just get obsessed with that That is right and that is the program response What better way to be careful Because you never know today might be the day when you're living in your living in fear. You're living in fear It's actually ridiculous We can't live that way and if you're living in fear, you're always externalizing power And as long as you externalize power, you will be stuck in a state of control I agree and before I let you go man one other thing I wanted to talk about it you did a presentation a little Q&A I get it was a Q&A video that you made and

1:28:03 You talked about something that we haven't really talked about on the show much, but I totally am right in line with you and that's the illusion of the college degree. And I think that's something that probably resonates with the listeners right now. I know college is super expensive and the economy is kicking a lot of asses right now and there's a temptation to go back to school because it's the only option that conventional society gives us and it's probably the only advice that a lot of parents are giving so I wanted to ask you when someone stuck at that very common crossroads how would you advise them to proceed? Would I and see my wife and this is what we're teaching our children. We homeschool our children, by the way I went to college. My I went to college myself five years My degree is completely useless It has no bearing in terms of my level of intellectual aptitude And point a fact when I got out of college when I reflect back You know it was like where was my mentality at? Okay, it's quite amazing This does not mean that that a college degree can't help people

1:28:58 but I want people to understand that it will not solve your problems in life. It will not solve your financial issues in life because it's not designed to do that most people that I know, that I went to college with they are dealing in fields and working in fields and have been for a decade almost two decades now that has nothing absolutely nothing to do with their degree so I think it's important if you're going to go to college you better be clear that your degree is worth something when I say worth something I'm not saying financially I am saying its viable in the world meaning it can allow you to be put in a position where you can get a reasonable job, where you are being paid well. But even beyond that okay because I'm by no means suggesting that people should not consider going to college i'm just saying you better make sure you know why your going and make sure that your pursuing a degree in a field that is actually

1:29:43 I'm Look to look to what you can do that. You enjoy because this gets to your life purpose, meaning why am I here on the planet? own your own business. Global markets so forth and so on oftentimes people think well, okay What I need to do is I need to go back and maybe get another degree or I need to go and finish up that Degree. That's that's possible but it may be that it's time for you to invest in

1:30:46 your effort and your energies into your own creativity, and then allow your own creativity to generate the income through entrepreneurship or through a home waste business. Or through brick-and-mortar business we should consider that too And the reason why that's important is two main reasons One is it really does free you up to do the things that you want to do in life In other words It frees you up to fulfill your life purpose for you Greg your life purpose You're good at this part of your life purpose. You see what I'm saying? So in that sense it frees you up to really get to the core essence of why you are here on the planet and that's invaluable more than making money with your degree, its invaluable but the other thing is that it offers all of us an opportunity to dream bigger

1:31:29 a deeper vision as to what's possible in our life financially because many people when it's the nine-to-five and they're getting the consistent check, their sense of what's possible in their life in terms of abundance and financially is limited. And I want people to understand that you can actually expand beyond the constructs that we've been led to adopt in the nine to five realm because business ownership it takes on a different dimension you're working for yourself entrepreneurship and also in terms of the financial rewards that come through hard work dedication building your business over time. The financial rewards will far exceed any nine to five job or not any most nine to five jobs i want people think about that you pursue your own creativity even also still pursue those degrees but understand it simply pursuing the degree are getting a degree is not going to solve your financial issues it never does it's not designed to do that what is this not working in the degrees if designed to do as a put you into position to get a job

1:32:20 that you may not necessarily like and may not necessarily pay the way that you need to be paid. So this is something that people need to think and be clear about if you're going to go to college, make sure you know why you're going also real quickly make sure you understand the financial ramifications if you go to took to college and it's not being financed by someone who's not charging you interest on a loan. That's a whole other topic for a whole another time, make sure you understand that system the loan system the debt system too because a lot of us we go to college and get into extreme levels of debt and it haunts us for the rest of our lives so maybe in a job but it really just indentured servitude so that we can pay back the loans and then we can live a mediocre life materially in the process for the next 10 15 20 years something for people to think about

1:33:01 Great advice. Yeah, it is important to remember the college degree is not Willy Wonka's golden ticket I've been preaching that for a long time man and I thought you know five years ago if my parents would have just handed me $20,000 and said we trust you to decide what's best for you Wow? I would have been way better off than navigating the labyrinth of college that I did, poorly anyway. But it's always a pleasure to talk to you man! I'm sure somewhere in the next hundred episodes we'll talk again for a full show but thanks for taking the time to do this little pop-in and i really appreciate it Oh my pleasure Greg and again congratulations on the 100th episode and I wish you hundreds and hundreds, thousands of thousands more. I do appreciate it. Thanks man! You want to let the people know where they can check out more your stuff before you go real quick? Yeah absolutely two websites linhonor.com L-E-N-O-N H-O-N-O-R dot com that's for our focus in on personal growth, manhood family so forth and so on And then also have another website linhonorfilms.com That is where i have all of my documentary work

1:34:02 on media manipulation so forth and so on. Come over when you all have some time I'm also on Facebook under Lennon Honor and i have a YouTube page under Lennon Honor, I really appreciate the opportunity Greg thanks so much. Thanks man take care. Yeah you too bye Well, well, well. Looks like Douglas Dietrich has stopped in for the occasion! Douglas was our guest in episode 52, Super Soldiers Secret History and Satanism In The Military and also episode 87, The Hunger Games, The Collapse And The Zombie Apocalypse both were a couple of wicked wild rides it's always a pleasure Doug man thanks for stopping in how are you man?

1:34:53 Thanks. I'm really glad to be here and the pleasure is all mine. I want to on behalf of a listenership Congratulate you for going professional not that you were ever unprofessional, but you are now Essentially counting on the higher side chats as your major source of income But beauty of it is that our friend Greg Carlwood? Is actually pioneering the medium because he's began to innovate by holding a lot of money bombs wherein he gives half Of what is given to him? To a listener and this has helped support his program and it's very similar to what we do at revolution radio where I'm a host

1:35:35 and we are entirely listener supported. But at any rate, most people who do listen to us know that English is my second language anyway so it's a wonder they can understand anything I say! Aside from that, Greg definitely I want to kind of put this into perspective. Greg's been asking a lot of the former guests to essentially go into what they've been investigating recently and it's very different for many guests because a lot of them are in the present moment

1:36:12 investigating a lot of current affairs and that's a great thing. And they usually have a subject which they are bringing up to date in terms of relevancy, so there is a lot of topicality to them. What I try to emphasize and this has always been my peculiar perspective that helps contextualize what everyone else is doing is I basically look at things centuries ago and I look at things decades ago someone who's researching archaeology. When someone is researching archaeology, they are dealing with new findings, new sites and new discoveries in that field that change perspectives on cultures that we are only now just beginning to understand and recover in terms of lost knowledge

1:36:58 but the archaeologists are still dealing with a high degree of topicality. In my case, what I'm dealing with are documents that have been destroyed and also trying to contextualize all of these topical events within a historical time frame and within the basically the patterns and cycles of history. So because of that, I always maintain a very detached perspective on everything that's going on around us as strategic perspective and that's probably one of things that helps keep me out of a lot

1:37:37 With a lot of these other people that you interview it's unavoidable They have to deal with each other as specialists and investigators, and there's a lot of rivalries that develop a lot of conflicting perspectives but my background is such that because I was a liaison officer and research librarian and all of the scientists and engineers and generals that worked with the Department of Defense were compartmentalized as a liaison for someone who was in military intelligence. And beyond that, occult intelligence I was going from department to department and relaying and conveying information. And as much people might think that's just an errand boy who is delivering packets because I was doing so much research to garner the material basically I wound up absorbing quite a bit

1:38:29 And this was long before Star Trek, the next generation and the caricature of data. But nevertheless that was something that I feel that definitely Colonel Michael Aquino, the officially recognized satanic chaplain of the United States military and a psychological warfare expert for military intelligence Apparently that's what he felt that I served as a functionary and of course, he probably looked at me more like an inanimate object than he did as a human being. Did he reach out to you recently?

1:39:08 Yeah, he did. The situation is that as of late – believe me I've been out there speaking about his accomplishments if you will or his achievements and various operations for quite some time now And he did the only rational thing, which was to simply stay out of the picture. Because I'm sure that as a psychological warfare expert – he entirely understood the fact that were he to come out in protestation – that he would only basically incriminate himself and validate everything I was saying.

1:39:49 So the best thing he could do was to ignore it and not dignify it with any attention. That would be the stance that he would have to publicly assume, is basically say this is beneath me and I'm sorry, I cannot acknowledge this. But what I know for a fact happened was that it's not a question of pragmatism or intelligence. It's a question of politics and this is what happens in war all the time, with the American empire more than any other culture is that militarily brilliant individuals will have their careers destroyed because they are obeying the orders of political idiots. Now that is probably the one major shortcoming of a civilian executive now I'm not recommending a military junta which in a very real sense we have

1:40:45 But we also have to put into perspective that by the time someone becomes a high-ranking officer Really colonel or above by the time they reach generalcy and go beyond that you are a politician in uniform And at that point you stop thinking like a soldier now Colonel Aquino would have reached a general seat had it not been for the exposure of all of the scandals that had taken place at the Presidio military base and so many other military bases throughout The United States and the American Empire. Bases in other nations such as Germany, at the time, the Philippines etc So he was stuck with a colonelcy but he continued to amass power well beyond that rank which is why on YouTube when people look him up they often see him referred to as a general

1:41:33 indeed in the military they would uh... it kind of given that honorable status and say such informally without ever putting its paper but uh... point i'm trying to make is that politicians and generals again who are politicians or bureaucrats uniform basically started taking him on a giving him orders because men like that can never truly retire and they told them to respond and against his uh... will essentially, and no doubt under protest. He did as he was ordered and he responded and absolutely nothing happened other than to verify everything that I was saying in a sense.

1:42:14 indirectly incriminate him to basically everything that I stated he was doing. And it's important to remember that I never directly accuse him of what many other people accused him, but rather contextualize his presence or lack thereof within various situations that have become a very sordid part of our underground history which is only now Becoming excavated. So thank you for asking about that and that hopefully puts it in some perspective Yeah, I was curious because the fact that he would address it is pretty interesting Yes And we definitely had

1:42:50 a private investigator Edward Opperman who has his own reputation as a PI to the stars. He's worked with a lot of celebrities from Howard Stern to any number of others who, believe it or not because I'm not entertainment oriented and don't remember, but he played a large part in this is factual and this is venable basically destroying the political career of Sarah Palin she was ready run for president until he was working with a prostitute who exposed the fact that her husband was apparently affiliated with this young lady.

1:43:32 definitively state that her political career was placed on the rocks for quite a long period of time. She had reality shows and everything else going until that scandal took place, which she had a part in investigating so we're not talking about somebody who's like shall we say your average pulp novel, dime store gumshoe here. We're speaking about somebody who has had serious effects in his career he investigated the this is what he specializes in is email investigation and electronic tracing He was able to vet and verify that that was Colonel Michael Aquino that sent me the various correspondences threatening a lawsuit

1:44:09 and also uh... it basically has been speaking to any number of other sites some of them quite obscure and which literally should never have rated his attention at all where by had apparently had interviews that were recorded in posted and uh... also you had any number of trollers who'd be the usual commentary on them and uh... none of that would strike the eye until you see this very shall we say sinister-looking individual, this Bela Lugosi type character in a full uniform suddenly stating I disavow all this menace. That just hits you like a hammer saying what the hell is this guy doing here and you know amongst all the other people who are using rock bands for their icons or whatnot you get this authority figure suddenly coming out and admonishing them all

1:45:02 for listening to an interview so it has its amusements. But other than that, Mr. Carlwood again believe me I'm sure that all of us can be glad now that you're able to devote your full attention to helping bring the realities or higher realities – the metaphysics of our physical world – to the populace around us and that you're helping other people while doing it And again, I kind of overemphasize that because the corporations and their media, they're really crashing because we've got a situation now where thanks to electronics and the bandwidth you've got major corporate broadcast media. And the only time that they are viable now is twice a day five days a week during drive time basically all the rest of their programs nobody

1:45:54 effectively listens to unless they're very elderly or unfortunately on welfare or Suffer various debilities where they are trapped with terrestrial broadcast radio everyone else is essentially who is middle class or Or even even lower than middle-class the majority of people now access what they listen to through electronic medium They listened to it later and they fast forward all the commercials And as a result all the sponsors who are paying for airtime are essentially not getting what they're paying for anymore the way they used to and we have a situation now where We are the future and it's people like Greg Carlwood who are gonna be the big names Keep an eye on him. Hopefully hopefully I'll ride along on his coattails with you this guy this fucking guy

1:46:47 Yeah, man. You're awesome! Powerful stuff man always a masterful mouthpiece on you always a pleasure I love you dearly. Yes, honestly you flatter me too much if you were a member of the opposite sex i would propose but thankfully you're not and we can leave you with your girlfriend who obviously i don't know whatever she did in her past life to deserve you but she must have been a serial killer or something. You kind! But at least let her know that I'm very glad that she provides you with adult supervision and keeps you on a short enough leash where you don't cause too much trouble. For sure, man! I'll let her know. All right. You take care sir. You too man. Enjoy the rest of your evening And with your permission good sir, I would like to remind people

1:47:40 that uh... if they want to check into further into what i'm doing outside of the higher side chats feel free to check out of course my website uh... douglas teacher dot com and as well uh... checking into revolution radio through freedoms lip from freedomslips to your ears and again like the Hireside Chats, we're entirely a public broadcasting service. In other words we are supported by the public. We have no corporate sponsorship and therefore no commercial agenda so – and always of course feel free to hook me up on – hookup with me excuse me on Facebook

1:48:19 For sure. Well, thank you! Yeah it's been awesome dude take care. Bye bye. All right guys Freeman Fly is here making an appearance on the Big THC special you might remember Freeman from episode 78 satanic celebrity rituals Disney and Aleister Crowley one of my favorite researchers Also, one of the authors behind weird stuff him and Jamie put that out I think weird stuff volume 2 is coming out right around the corner. Am I right man? Absolutely. We're digging deep man running hard very cool

1:49:03 So, yeah I really wanted to talk to you about something we didn't get the touch on when you were here last but it's a fascinating thread of research and that's this idea that Obama might actually be a clone of the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten. I know that you've been looking into this possibility for a long time but its pretty far out man what is the evidence for this? You know and that's the amazing part for me is as i wish that this thing would just drop because you know i lost a lot of listeners when i started really push it some like guys you've gotta see this you really need to understand what i'm trying to say do u realize that yes its been six years then have been talking about those.

1:49:43 And I put together that artwork of Barack and cut the Obama face and the Akhenaten face in half, and they were an exact match. Found Queen T which would be Akhenaten's mothers, and she was an exact match for Michelle. When i saw the picture of Queen T, I was blown away because I didn't know if I was going to find this you know? When you see a picture of Queen T, you'll see what I mean She is identical! I mean she IS Michelle Obama but this would make Michelle Barack's mother, right? So then when we started getting a little deeper and Jamie looks over at me and she says you're not going to believe this but you know Akhenaten is always shown with his two daughters. And I'm like oh you're so right! Yeah. You know we just went got the pictures of the two daughters and my god they are Malaya and Sasha

1:50:34 So now I'm freaking out. But, you know, one thing the KV55 mummy mystery look into it for a hundred plus years Akhenaten's body has been denied they had found a mummy in this tomb they call the Kings Valley 55 and The issue was that all of Akhenaten's cartouches and names have been scratched ritually from the walls so that no sign of him was left. And then the tomb was resealed It was desecrated and resealed without anything being stolen. You know, Queen T's toilet was still there. Malaya and Sasha's parts were still there. Everything or you know his daughters yeah everything was still there so they had desecrated Akhenaten's tomb and then resealed it

1:51:28 And so for 100 plus years, this has been an archaeological mystery. Was it Akhenaten or wasn't it? When the archaeologist sent the mummy to a doctor while he first had a doctor come in to the tomb and the doctors said well this is a woman because the hips were so wide then he sent the DNA and that were the mummy out too they didn't have DNA testing at this point sorry about that they sent the mummy parts of the mummy out to a doctor and he looked into it and said well no this is a man So this whole problem of deciding whether that was actually Akhenaten's mummy arose right from the beginning. And there was a debate that ran now, Akhenaten was always described as having these weird big hips and looking like some well people say he had Marfan syndrome which doesn't fit the bill because he was a very articulate poet and a very amazing statesman to the point that The Secret Society

1:52:24 still Well, as I started to put this all out to the world and say look. I believe these people are clones Why? Because there are four faces that i have put together of a single family in Egypt 3500 years ago And the single first family of now and they all match exactly That is a physical impossibility If you could come up with a better explanation than cloning I would love to hear it

1:53:09 Let me just say that I was putting all of this out before they had announced that they actually had Akhenaten's DNA. It was see, I tried to get the story out before Obama came forward about human cloning which you can get that in my DVD most people didn't even know The president came out and released the restrictions on stem cell research leading to human cloning It was this has been a battle since Schwarzenegger and Bush were battling over the human clone project while Ray Leans were talking about it in Congress. And they're puffy white spacesuits, right? You know, this was the advocate for human cloning Rael wearing his white puffy space suit with the Star of David and a swastika around his neck speaking before Congress saying we are going to clone people whether you want it or not because it's not hard

1:54:03 You can clone the first clone was made with a baby's hair The man took a piece of his baby's hair and he split a frog's egg in half and he utilized that to make the first Clone, okay. That's how this is Wow? Yes, that's not yeah Oh, it sounds simple but wait it gets better sure because I All of a sudden they announced that they have the DNA. They announce it on the Discovery Channel under King Tut Unwrapped, they show you the KV55 mummy DNA and say yes we have it The head of the Giza Plateau comes forward and says to all the archaeologists who are now upset

1:54:40 saying, wait a minute you know you had Akhenaten all along? Zahi Hawass the Giza Plateau Secretary says well yes it was a national security secret and until I built my own DNA lab under the Cairo Museum. I did not want to release this information to the world Okay, so now we got the DNA. Now we got the lab below the Giza Museum or the Cairo Museum and I'm still saying wait a minute there was one person still missing here and that is Akhenaten's wife Yeah Lovely beautiful Nefertiti right? Right So two three weeks ago I decided to release my image of Nefertiti with Beyonce

1:55:26 And I'm blown away again because once again they are an exact match and I knew it would be Beyonce. You know, she came out singing at last my love has come at the inauguration she was you know singing Abba Maria's Great Pyramids At last my love has come. That's a very prophetic song to sing Can you deny this stuff? Right, right Well all of a sudden I released this image of Beyonce as Nefertiti and again they're perfect match now we're talking five faces of a single family and five faces when low and behold French newspapers come forward saying Barack Obama and Beyonce are having an affair

1:56:11 Boom. Yeah, as soon as I heard that... Two weeks after I released it. As soon as I heard that affair thing and knew I was like, Freeman's gonna love this! It fits right in! Well you know and it came two weeks after I released the idea of-I went on the air and said hey Nefert-or Beyonce would be Barack's true wife because Michelle would be his mother And then boom that story broke Yeah, the part that seems to fit the least or the weirdest part is that Michelle Obama would be his mother. Is there any reason for that? Well, that's not unusual in Egypt, to be honest with you and the truth of the matter is that Queen Tee and Amenhotep III who would be Akhenaten's father

1:57:00 They were the first grandiose pharaonic couple. Now Queen T, she's a mystery She had been in power since she was four years old She came from nowhere No one really knows much about her past She is a Nubian So she was kind of tossed into this mix out of nowhere She is the mystery card But they have what they call the Colossus of Memnon And these are two massive, massive statues of Amenhotep III and Queen Tiye showing little people at their feet. But they are the first mammoth depictions of this pharaonic line and now they're called the howling or singing colossi of Memnon because they now whistle or sing when the wind blows through them.

1:57:53 Well, another thing that fuels this fire. Obama has a scar on his head right? There's a lot of speculation about what that's about. Yeah Yeah, Akhenaten was always known as the extraterrestrial king. There's even a book called Akhenaten the Extraterrestrial King He is the one that had to go-to guy for people with alien ancient alien hypotheses because he had this cone head and these big hips and Was somewhat hermaphroditic you know that's why they had that whole trouble yikes and So, of course the first questions that started coming to me when I proposed this theory was well why doesn't he have a cone head? And you know the daughters of Akhenaten also had cone heads.

1:58:41 so i have to see what happens when they start to lose their hair but certainly remember rock obama began losing his hair as all our presidents do under that stress we see these weird head scars and unlike well there you go fix it can you could say almost perfectly where they would have cut out this code. And and but that is so there was again and so the evidence just keeps piling up over and over that i can't seem to drop the story. And there's some type of correlation with the first families code names right but the secret service absolutely i mean that was another day

1:59:21 Akhenaten was known as the renegade pharaoh because he flipped Egypt on its head, he did away with the multi pantheon of gods and brought in the idea monotheism to the point that Sigmund Freud thought that Akhenaten was Moses. You can find a lot of work about Akhenaten being Moses now that puts a whole nother play on this I'm saying therefore yeah Obama is Moses right? But Akhenaten was the renegade pharaoh because he destroyed or changed everything, you know. Destroyed for the priestcraft what their way of life and moved the capital even did everything so they called him The Renegade and that's what they call Barack Obama in The Secret Service Now that's a very unique name to give to a president meaning That the definition of renegade is one that turns on his people or political party

2:00:13 You know, it's everything you could think as far as a turncoat. Anything look up the definition of renegade and you've got this turn coat so now they're giving that name to our president one that will turn on his friends political family parties and family That's the definition of renegade And then Michelle, she was given the name Renaissance. Now this means rebirth brought back to life when you got that in there and then when you see the picture of Akhenaten with Nefertiti and the two daughters with cone heads

2:00:50 They are there's two other things in the picture and that is the rays of the sun god coming down via 10. And that was the raise of the sun with the daughters holding up the rose buds to the race and a course malaya and sasha secret service names are radiance for the raisin the sun and rosebud damn I mean, you can't make this stuff up. Yeah it's creepy stuff though man! I wonder what the motivation is behind that just to do it? I know that behind the scenes all these high-level elites they worship all this ancient stuff so maybe it just has to do with that but if Akhenaten really was some type of extraterrestrial I mean they could be tapping into an ET bloodline

2:01:37 Yeah, yeah exactly. I mean like i say they venerate this man hugely to the point that every masonic grand lodge has a temple to Akhenaten and very interesting extraterrestrial connections as well so within the Philadelphia Lodge which would be Benjamin Franklin's lodge which he was then disallowed to enter after he left for France and joined the Hells Fire Club but that's where our presidents roll But within the philadelphia lodge i walk into the akka not in room the grand ball egyptian room they have there and, i immediately see that any to the corners of the room is the blazing star a free masonry. Now the blazing star freemasonry is the stars serious and their very end too serious

2:02:29 and they're very serious about Sirius. But in the middle of the ceiling, in the Akhenaten room there was also the Dogon this tribe from Mali Africa that claims that they had been contacted by a fish race from Sirius and they were given a symbol to depict Sirius and that symbol is in the ceiling of the Akhenaten room in the Grand Lodge at Freemasonry in Philadelphia as well surrounded by the blazing stars which equate to Sirius as well Man, it all kind of fits together man. It would be such a crazy revelation that the whole first family is Egyptian clones but you're putting those pieces together man and the picture is getting more clear! And the truth would be that the Freemasonic Order would actually be an extraterrestrial secret society that has contacts and roots that go all the way back to this ancient contact

2:03:28 Wow, icing on the cake. Yeah. Damn! Well man I know this is just a quick spot but I really appreciate you coming on and you never fail to bring your A-game thanks for being part of the 100th episode THC special always a pleasure before i let you go I know weird stuff too's coming out we mentioned that do you want to give people information about what it will contain and when it might actually be releasing? Certainly and thank you Greg man THC is a great thing. I'm really honored to be a part of your hundredth episode So, thank you for that to come You know everything is at freeman tv.com so if you want to check all this stuff out It's all right there weird stuff part two is gonna get a bit darker y'all you know we're into the the belly of the beast at this point as the trilogy goes and

2:04:15 What does one is getting into trauma based mind control and the social effects of trauma based mind control, the it gets to the lighter side as well showing that humanity is actually good that it is a requires trauma base my control to get the human to kill. So this is something that we cover very deeply showing that humanity is not a killer race and that it actually requires great effort to make us into killers. So this will be the big part, I'll tell you we shared with trauma based mind control victim Kathy O'Brien who was abused by Dick Cheney

2:04:53 And she said it was the best, most concise version of trauma-based mind control that she had ever seen. Now she is not allowed to say anything publicly about it and I hope I don't get her in trouble for giving me this comment but she thought you know it was one of the best things she had ever read on the topic so that's pretty good yeah That's a huge endorsement can wait to read it man! That's awesome We hope to get out in the next two months Solid. All right, well thanks again man you're a champion of the cause to inject wonder back into the world I love your research and I don't even know what the hell to believe anymore man But you're the best good good Thank You take care See ya later Greg Walk like an Egyptian

2:05:48 And a big welcome back to Colin Andrews. He was with us on episode 81, Crop Circles Portals and Alien Contact with his wife Cynthia talking about the wide range of content in their book On The Edge Of Reality I'm so glad he could stop back in for a minute on this THC special occasion. Colin my man how's it going? It's coming along well, Craig. It's always good to hear from you! It seems like in the five months or so since we've talked, I haven't heard very much from the UFO crop circle field. Has it been pretty quiet lately? Or am i just not in the loop

2:06:39 No, you are in the loop. It has gone quiet. I think a lot of people studying that subject specifically would kind of agree if you look at it simplistically as the end time. the program to put it that way. So it evolved, people got involved and interested. Many theories expanded and tested the science as well but here we are now I think with the other subjects running parallel to this that is often overlooked like the UFO and really truly just about everything where we're seeing on our television sets right now they too ran

2:07:44 a consistent kind of direction on the graph where it runs from starting point, everything does to kind of crescendo where we enter a new phase and end up the usefulness of whatever subject youíre looking at. The crop circles I think has entered that period where We now know many of them are made by people where new patients and a new kind of wide vision is required to see what actually happened and the reality of what happened, what it might have meant.

2:08:21 is equipped to do that. If you talk about people hoaxing circles, with many people you simply turn the switch off and I think that is driving why thereís a silence right now on that subject that there is adequate proof of what people have made crop designs in fact the majority of them but the question is not being asked which Iíve certainly been looking at for last 20 years, itís the last 30. Why is it that people making many of these extraordinary designs have a much bigger story to them than simply a hoax?

2:08:59 and that requires a kind of trust and deeper commitment to the supernatural things that are happening there. That's why I think we have now a silence. It is resetting, retooling and will the media be even prepared to look broadly at this because the word hoaxing came in and basically put people to sleep? Yeah, and that's a pretty good summary. I wonder because it makes me really curious because the major thread in the ET storyline or what is now sort of morphed into maybe more complicated type of intelligence is that they're here to gently nudge us

2:09:50 you know, nudge our primitive race on the right direction. And given where we are now with extreme weather and our damage to the planet a lot of people are saying that things might even have passed the point of no return I wonder why the ones that seem to be legitimate messages why they aren't getting bolder and more frequent instead of dissipating? It's a good point. I think though what we have to try and resolve in all of this is truth, it also sounds very kind of new agey when we say this truth and love the only things that are really significant in our long term survival

2:10:28 you know there have been a lot of lies and some lot of perception love uh... interweaving all intelligence agencies are still on with the subject i've been looking at it's a lot to be said in just a few minutes we've gotten together this time round um... but here we are we noticed sections involved we know what some of these troops are and they're hard to pallet Itís hard to palate that somebody metastasizing in one place is picked up, translated and acted upon by others who have been making the designs and theyíre summoned to say ìThese are actual facts Iím talking about here. Theyíre in the bookî

2:11:10 They are summoned to a particular place on the planet with the same designs, two different groups unknown to one another acting out what they thought is their own mind process. Their own thoughts and planning later discovered it's not that at all. We find this happening in UFO subject in particular where there is perceived to be connection here and in politics, in religion too. We begin to see through the myths that this is not all about us but the planning and our actions are beyond that of specifically us.

2:11:53 A very brief story, I've got time to tell you this in about 160 seconds. Greg, I was in a motor car just two weeks ago – it kind of fits into this – and in fact, to be perfectly honest with you, I'm writing to the person as your telephone went to make this interview happen between us right now. It's on my screen still but I haven't finished writing yet. Synchronicity? Yes, synchronicity again. Well Tiocuson, a Native American Heís a very accomplished musician and has appeared at the UN and other places. Cynthia and I were on our way to watch one of his performances, heís a flutist and we were going to one of his shows with his wife who is living partner and they got into my motor car to get coffee.

2:12:43 and I have one of only a handful of these voice phenomena that I've experienced myself over the last 15 years. I'd never had anything like it before at that time as an engineer, but it literally is a single sentence voice phenomenon. It comes out of nowhere, no prompting, and it floored me. I'm sat there waiting for them to come out of the coffee shop It said, and I'm just actually sharing this with Tillson today as you and I are speaking. It said imagination and dreams provide you with stepping stones to events and experiences that you have not yet had. My goodness! Where did that come from?

2:13:25 It just like was so clearly and powerfully meaningful. Out of nowhere, I can tell you in total confidence and truth that I am telling you the truth that did not come from me and it was a voice given to me. And I've had this just half-a dozen times, you know couple times in the shower. I think this alpha state is something to do with what allows this connection but it was very powerful and I'm sharing with you now because not only is on my screen, but if that's what you are actually now talking about. You know life, I think everything there's nothing out there is quite the way that appears

2:14:08 I think we have to stand back a little bit here and reassess the reality that we have believed that we've been living in, but there's much more to it. These things work when you allow yourself to believe them that they can work. If you donít believe in something, you donít activate that part of your being, the mechanisms that permit it to provide itself to you and Iíve been with many TV crews and have done this over the years as a dowser myself. It doesnít work if you donít believe in it.

2:14:51 You know, you have to embrace and I don't say this is a lecture to you. You're in the subject. There has to be room in you To expand and acknowledge And allow for it to happen For it to be So we are manifesting our own reality Our future is in our hands But we can't always see it that way Yeah, well said that's an interesting story for sure I mean widening the scope of human experience and staying open-minded are definitely pillars in my life and pillars of this show. Yeah That's powerful stuff man thanks for that. Not at all Craig All right well you know I loved having you on before On The Edge Of Reality is a great book Are there any other projects you're working on you want to mention before we cut you loose?

2:15:42 It's really a matter of trying to help the local state authorities here. I am involved with climate change, global warming and the sciences of that and have had a finger in that very concerning pie for some years before mainstream believed it was anything real at all I've been out there screaming this for 20 years, but here we are. It's now happening and I think that I can perhaps help us to prepare our communities for a journey ahead which is not all necessarily going to be that easy. Wow yeah! That's scary stuff man... We'll have to talk about that sometime in the future but hey- Next time next time Greg Of course well hey you're The Man. I really appreciate it take care of yourself alright?

2:16:36 I appreciate it. Thanks, nice talking to you Craig! You too have a good one. Bye bye. Folks, it is a serious pleasure to welcome back Jamie Henshaw for a quick spot on this special occasion. We talked about a whole host of wild and juicy things on episode 82 Hollywood Mind Control and the Dark Side of Disney one of my favorite episodes still. Jamie thanks for stopping in

2:17:17 Hi, thank you and congratulations on your show. Oh thanks! Thanks and I really appreciate you being here. It's been a few months since we've talked but i really enjoyed that show we did. You and Freeman both have opened my eyes to some of the darkness behind both the man Walt Disney and the Disney Corporation Recently we've seen Frozen hit the silver screen, kind of like as a new modern Disney classic. And tons of marketing for this Maleficent movie where Angelina Jolie stars as the evil winged demon queen with horns and that looks like there's going to be plenty to talk about once that comes out but I was curious if you found anything noteworthy about the Disney stuff they've been putting out since last time?

2:18:03 well it's just more insane to me we cd did he start spiral downward now miley cyrus you know that the one innocent cute canada montana is now in her concert uh... giving uh... mocked police showed said bill clinton and you know teaching girls how to masturbate on stage though it's really just downworld spiral from hearing you can get expected to get more and more sexual really because that's what they're trying to drive in a new and so pretty much anything goes and so you have Miley Cyrus I think now is kissing Katy Perry in the news, and those and they were discussing this all on The View And how they support it and so Hmm. Katy Perry she just released another new music video That's chock-full of Egyptian symbolism

2:18:55 right dark or video and uh... i think that one with the one where she performed at the music award for the grammy's where without dancing pole dancing with rooms and then the jack crystal ball that she came out of fortress to the way it can how the team in camping around so they go again is more and more dark side more like you said the malaysia family angelina jolie so we might be seeing some more uh... things come out that give you sort of a sentimental feeling towards the dark side or actually describing where they come from, or what would create a villain really. A super-villain and that would come out way in weird stuff maybe like six or seven how did they use rejection to create villains?

2:19:44 Yeah, it's definitely becoming less and less hidden. And it's kind of just thrown right in your face—it's barely veiled at all! But another thing I had heard you talking about recently that was pretty interesting on another show, I believe, was the relation between Anton LaVey's Church of Satan witchcraft and these techniques of modern marketing—especially the marketing and consumerism directed at women which is pretty interesting. What sort of correlations have you found there? Yeah, this is all going to be coming out in part two of the book which should be done maybe in the next couple months I hope nice and I have a whole chapter and it called project crazy bitch Which explains how they use this princess programming to create neurosis then create narcissists

2:20:33 create Machiavellian personalities that have to do anything to succeed and just all the types of mental illnesses that this kind of princess consumerism is creating along with the other mental breakdowns they could have such as fear of marriage and family because in a fairy tale, they always kill their mother after she's reproduced. So it creates some great psychological schisms in the brain that they don't even know about because they're trying to live their life like a fairy tale. But yeah, so we're really going to flesh that out and how that relates to Anton Lavey's teachings in a book called The Satanic Witch

2:21:18 Right on. Yeah, it's kind of interesting because by making it all about sex you really teach women that being sexy and promiscuous is the height of their potential which is really convenient from a perspective of the upper echelon of entertainment and political industries because they're known for being involved in things like Project Monarch and mind control sex slaves and child trafficking stuff of that nature so It makes perfect sense that that's the kind of message they would put out Right. And even in the high schools, you know you see that the whole thing's played out in sports and cheerleading and so that guys go on potentially to make millions of dollars in sports and the girls this is a good kept secret at NFL but cheerleaders get paid about $50 per game. So it's not anything they can aspire

2:22:07 get ahead in the world even if they are the home cleaner, the head cheerleader or whatever the high school tells you is important for your life skills. You know they're teaching girls how to put condoms on but they don't even know how to get a bank account Yeah, no kidding. It's such a ridiculous paradigm I was talking to my girlfriend about the fact that there should be just a class called American life where they teach you how to file your own taxes teach You how to work on a car? You know teach you the basic things of what you're gonna really need in this life But instead we outsource it all to experts like an auto mechanic or H&R Block so We have no power in our own lives. We just have to go hire someone for each and everything Right

2:22:49 They want you to be subservient to the specialists and the authorities, so every part of your life that you can compartmentalize and depend on them for they've got you in that monopoly. Man, so I could talk about this all day. I really appreciate you stopping in for this. It's a short little thing but the last time we talked we did talk about that content and Project Crazy Bitch and it seems like it will be super interesting! Anything else coming out in Weird Stuff Volume 2 that people should be excited about? There's, um... The first chapter is all about the in-vogue mystery religions or the ancient religions that are coming back or never left but they're being popularized more and more now. So we're going to be discussing what really was the Bavarian Illuminati and when you say illuminati what do you really mean? And I guess there's some American history in there and all about Freemasonry

2:23:47 to Kabbalah and Oteo. So that's going to be... the very first chapter and then we talk about motherhood and how that's kind of a sacred thing that they're suppressing in the second chapter. And then, we go – we talk a lot about trauma-based mind control actually and I sent my copy of that chapter to Kathy O'Brien and she loved it. She said it was a very good concise breakdown of the entire thing you know one of the best she'd seen so... Oh nice! recommendation. Yeah, so and then we get into MKUltra and what does that have to do with voodoo? And what does it have to do with rock-and-roll? And what is the half of you is Scientology and spirit possession and all that... And then the last chapter is kind of the boys counterpart to The Crazy Bitch article which was programmed for war—you know how they're teaching all the young boys

2:24:44 uh... to emulate the superheroes and that actually goes back to the nazis before so i think it's going to be you know jam-packed Very cool. I'm super excited for it to come out, I really loved the first one and hope it ends up being a long successful series... And when is that coming out again? Well we're working feverishly at it so I'm hoping before May Awesome! Alright well thanks again for being on The 100th episode, thank Freeman again for me too, I'm glad I've gotten to know you guys You're good people keep doing the work you do and take care And now it looks like Kathleen Martin is stopping in. She's done a lot of research in ET abduction and alien encounters, you might remember her and Denise Stoner from episode 64 where we talked about their book The Alien Abduction Files Hows'it going Kathleen? Thanks for stopping in!

2:25:51 It's going great and thanks for having me on your show. It is such an honor to be with you today, to celebrate the fact that you've gone over a hundred shows! Yeah it's kind of cool thanks You had mentioned to me about a new approach to ET contact and the ET contact phenomenon that you've been working on. So what are you doing differently now? Well, I have to tell you in all of the research that i have done over the past 20 or so years The focus has been primarily on alien We used to just use the term alien abduction and think about the graves. But over the past many years, there's sort of been an evolution going on where people

2:26:40 people are reporting a number of different types of experiences ranging from very, very positive to very negative. From physical to non-physical Some of them have paranormal kind of qualities. Some appear to be with interdimensional beings, some appear to be with spiritual beings and some people have become spiritually enlightened through their contacts with these

2:27:22 entities from elsewhere and you know perhaps some of them are right here on the earth plane only in a different dimension whereas others are coming perhaps from planets out in our galaxy. so the trend recently has been to label all of these as Experiences and those who have these as? Experiencers in order to sort of put everyone under one umbrella But I think that when we do that, we're actually losing touch with

2:28:07 the goal of people like myself who feel that it's extremely important to separate these experiences out and that what we need is a multidisciplinary approach to all of this in order to discover the characteristics of each one of these different categories and Now I'm the mutual UFO networks director of abduction research and it's called abduction in Mufon. It's been that way for many, many years so maybe it's time to change that name to ET intelligence research or something like that because that's what we at Mufon do is you know with UFO related but

2:28:56 You know, we also have reports of the spiritually enlightened experiences dating. It reminds me of the experiences of the 1950s, the contactees back then who stated that they were meeting with a spiritually enlightened human type beings so Yes, it's you know what? It's all sort of come around and I think that it's time to actually separate these different experiences out certainly when it comes to support Everyone comes together under one umbrella But when it comes to research, I think that we need to separate this and have a multidisciplinary approach

2:29:44 I think that's a great idea because abduction is such a loaded term. And, uh...I mean i'm really interested in these non-physical ET experiences because they seem the most foreign and tough to grasp for me. I'd say they're also the ones I know least about! Can you tell us about some of the more interesting non-physical experiences you've been told about? Uh yes, I can It's very interesting one case that I investigated was from a young man who was actually visiting a friend and He had lived, he lived in a different part of the state and his brother lived in the same city. So it was this cold snowy icy night he walked to his brother's house spent the evening with his brother and then left about one o'clock in the morning planning on taking the short maybe 10 or 15 minute walk to his friend's house

2:30:43 He then found himself lying on the sidewalk and it was two hours later. Now, he did not see a UFO I mean if you thought of a prosaic explanation you might think well maybe he slipped on the ice and hit his head And maybe that's what is going here but But you know he said that couldn't possibly have happened and because it had such a profound effect on his life. And after this happened, he started to have non-physical visitations from a group of individuals who

2:31:29 remind me somewhat of the sketches I've seen of the Anunnaki. And, I'm not talking about the reptilian Annunaki, I'm talking about the ones with the staffs and the beards and long hair... He described men and women who would come to him and teach him in information during the night while he slept. And this information caused a huge transformation in this young man, he was your typical

2:32:09 American young man before this happened, you know he was very much into sports. He ate meat he You know Was a rough-and-tumble kind of guy and this one experience transformed him spiritually he became a vegetarian and He stopped any violence. He became totally against the idea of human violence. He had a profound spiritual change, and so that was very very interesting to me. Yeah I mean can you elaborate at all on the type of information he was given? Just information about how he should live his life

2:33:01 Weird, that's kind of crazy. I wonder what the motivation is for that? Of course if it improves the life of one person then great but with nearly 7 billion people on this planet there has to be a lot more visitations to have some real lasting change Yes, and other people are telling me about visitations that they have from these kind and gentle beings. Now no one has physical evidence when we work with the Greys for example There is physical evidence that something is going on even if it's black and blues or patterned burn marks Or that sort of thing on people's bodies, and I'm not talking just a bump black-and-blue. I'm talking about handprints or that sort of thing Yeah, well, I don't I'm not

2:33:53 collecting any physical evidence from these enlightened experiences. And so much of it reminds me of the information in the Bible, that people are meeting with these angelic beings whereas other people are having contact with these sort-of demonic beings who are extremely negative and they might have entity attachments. And this kind of thing on the other side, the negative side is frightening people. They're having really awful experiences where they have movement inside the mattresses in their bed. They're hearing voices

2:34:45 receiving negative messages. They might feel that they've been grabbed by the ankles and they'll find scratch marks on their ankles, and... Whoa! ...they might have lights going off and on, they might have cold areas in their house there might be bad odors And you know so all of these people come to people like me looking for the answers I am not very skilled at this, you know the paranormal aspects here of sort of negative entities or highly positive entities. So I'm trying to assemble in MUFON a team of specialists one would be a psychologist who specializes in

2:35:40 working with people who are having these paranormal kind of contacts. So that was something that I really wanted to do. We've just put a medical doctor on the team and there's also the possibility of psychological experiences as well, I'm finding that many individuals who had really horrible childhood experiences are either having very positive or very negative experiences. I'm also finding that people who tell me they have a history of drug and alcohol abuse are now being bothered by these very negative experiences." Oh no, that's not good news for me!

2:36:32 And so you know, you have to ask is this psychological? Is this physical? Is this non-physical of these entities interdimensional are they here on earth with us contacting humans or What is going on? You know, so it seems that having this team of specialists is just what we need in order to try to sort all of this out. I'm well versed on the greys, on alien abductions but the other part is a little perplexing to me

2:37:12 Yeah, I'm with you. Exactly it's just the most off-putting thing but i did have a question I've been thinking about recently in terms of the physical ET abduction experiences that have been happening they've been happening for a long long time and I'm curious if you've been able to notice any differences over the years well with their technology for example when people describe abductions from say the 60s or 70s Are there any major differences in the experiences today? Because our culture and technology has changed so much in that time, I think that maybe theirs has as well. Yes, I'm definitely seeing differences in their technology. When i think about my aunt and uncle Betty and Barney Hill's abduction back in 1961 there were buzzing sounds on the trunk of Betty's and Barney's car after they had this close encounter with a UFO

2:38:07 Actually, my uncle observed non-human entities from that field. That was part of his conscious recall and then that craft seemed to have guided my aunt and uncles car To the abduction spot several miles away either that or it lifted it up And then it set it down on a secondary road mm-hmm We don't have that happening today. I'm aware of one encounter maybe four years ago in New Hampshire where individuals reported that their car was actually lifted up in the air, but today

2:38:50 many people are having a different type of experience and often they have been taken once from their vehicle or from an external environment, and then after that They are taken from their homes Generally their bedrooms. What better way to hide what you're doing than to very swiftly and almost seamlessly remove people from their homes while they're sleeping. All you have to do is put a tracking device in them,

2:39:28 devise a way to get into the house without having the alarm system go off or having to get through the doors. And, you know so that what they're doing today and have been doing for number of years now it appears is moving through solid surface and I wrote about that in the alien abduction files. Right, I'd spoken to a number of physicists to determine whether or not this was even scientifically possible and they reminded me that 99.9% of the atom is empty space between the protons and the electrons. True! So

2:40:08 all you have to do is match up the frequency and the phase of the vibration Of The surfaces, the human body, the T-body and the solid surface. And you can pass matter through matter atoms through atoms So that's a possibility of what they're doing also They seem to have different types of crafts today. Back in the early days, we always heard about these round disc-shaped craft and today we're hearing more about triangular shaped craft as well as the discs they seem to have a number of different models that they use depending upon what job their attempting to fulfill

2:41:04 And so when they're taking people just in a sort of sport model here on earth into a small room where they're just doing an upgrade or inserting an implant, or doing some kind of small procedure. They'll take people onto the craft and I have been told by several separate, different experiencers and this is before I wrote it in my book that they had been told that this craft is partly biological. and partly mechanical. And it is the biological core of this craft that operates it so that it is aware of all other craft, as sort of a collective consciousness of craft they're all aware where everyone else is at the time and if the craft can actually operate itself

2:42:01 Now then we have the larger triangular shaped craft with the larger rooms that also operate and take many individuals at one time. And also people today talk about being taken outside the Earth's atmosphere, whereas in the early abductions most of those experiencers felt that they were very close to earth or actually on the ground in the craft. Betty and Barney felt they were on the crown, Antonio Vies Boas from Brazil felt that he was on the ground you know so it's changed over the years it's transformed They rarely land today when they do we have the physical trace evidence that they have

2:42:55 they burn the ground, they might crystallize the soil underneath. Wow! But we... We certainly haven't acquired as much evidence today as we had back in those early days when Betty and Barney were abducted. They're getting better, they're fine-tuning those techniques! They certainly are! They have. Wow fascinating stuff Kathleen I mean i've been interested in the topic pretty much my whole life and some days it drives me crazy there's still such a mystery to it but I love that you're out there taking these experiences seriously and trying to get to the bottom of things

2:43:30 Thanks again for taking the time to stop in. This has been good! Well, thanks for having me on! Alright have a good one enjoy the day! You too! Bye-bye! Now we got Olaf Phillips stopping by. He was with us on episode 59, Solar Warden Nazis from Space and Prism and we were hot off the heels of ConspiracyCon at the time. Olaf's been a good friend since I'm glad he could stop in for this. Olaf man how the hell are you?

2:44:31 I'm doing pretty good. How are you? I'm awesome, man! You know every time i see you blow my mind with another anecdote about alternative three or a story to support the idea that Nazis may have escaped somewhere off planet and...I always love talking to you man but give the people a better idea of your perspective on these like secret projects what's the motivation advancement in human race or something less altruistic? I think it's less altruistic. I think its survival yeah Yeah, I think it's survival. As we can see with the polar vortex as they've called it... We've seen some chaotic weather this year and last year and I don't know that that is necessarily going to go away. Climatologists are saying that its not

2:45:20 We had a report that along the West Coast, the El Nino, it's going to become twice as frequent as it normally is. Anybody who has been through an El Nino knows what that means. It means heavy deluges of rain followed by years of drought. It's a very sketchy thing and I think However, we got there that's up to the listener to figure out whether you think it's a natural cycle or we did it or we Exacerbated or heads chem trails or whatever. You want to think I think today? The climate is destabilizing in forming a new pattern and I think that That pattern can leave lead in some interesting directions so, you know if your group of people and you want to ensure that you're gonna maintain control and

2:46:09 You know, you want to maintain your level of existence. Leaving is one option. Yeah absolutely! That's interesting man... Go ahead. Oh well no I'm here all the time man you go ahead Well, I mean you know i just think it's logical and as you start to put the pieces together. I mean alternative through is obviously a mockumentary nobody can debate that people who started at rectors brandy knows very famous in electronica and ambient You know, he did the soundtrack. David Ambrose wrote some books and did some other screenplays that were very popular. Nobody can debate that it was a mockumentary but I think what it was whether they meant for it to be or not is a framework you know as humans look I write and as humans we're impacted by the things that we see the things that we hear in the things that we experience

2:47:05 And if it wasn't intentional, which Miles says it wasn't. I fully believe that he believes that he didn't do an intentionally in constructing the model for Alternative 3 He obviously hit a chord on somebody's plan because the problem is that if you look at alternative three That all the elements of it are there The deep underground bunkers The Dums The nuclear missile tests It just goes on and on. All those different pieces are all there, you just have to look for them. The abductions the batch consignments... You can make a case for all these things

2:47:46 Yeah, the batch consignments man. That was another thing I wanted to talk to you about because since we last spoke you wrote a piece for Ron over at Paranoia called Mysterious Disappearances National Parks and the Breakaway Civilization Evidence of Batch Consignments? And I hope we could talk about that piece a bit. You want to set the stage for us man what are batch consignments? Sure so batch consignments are are a kind of controlled labor force, right? You pack up a bunch of people and you take them off world to wherever you live. Whatever planet that is or space station or whatever and they function as a controlled labor force. They are the people that clean the bathrooms and wipe the floors and do minor maintenance. The things that you don't need highly trained technicians for.

2:48:36 Right on. Where do you speculate that they'd be getting these people from? There are a lot of people who go missing, I think if it exists...I think you could argue that Africa or the third world are probably ripe for harvesting so to speak these groups of people because you know you could pick up an entire village and nobody would ever know But one of the interesting things is that there's a guy named David Pauleads, and Pauleads has written a series of books about clusters of abductions and clusters of disappearances in national parks.

2:49:14 And I took a map that he had created where he showed these, where these clusters were and overlaid it onto a map created by a guy named Tall in 1990. That showed supposed bunkers and a rail network underground rail network that connected them. The interesting thing is that they lined up. Yeah! Thats crazy! It was pretty interesting it was kind of stunning to figure out So there's other researchers, people I've had on the show have talked about them doing tests on people in underground bases. And then yeah of course using them as slave labor to build tunnels or even shipping them i guess to space platforms like Gary McKinnon had talked about back in the day that kind of thing? Right yeah and you know there's Millab if you look into Millab where people are abducted and they're made to believe that they were abducted by aliens...

2:50:07 But they were abducted by humans. I mean, i've written about the Betty and Barney Hill abduction uh some inconsistencies with that I mean You know, I think that there very well may be aliens that come here Um, I think it'd be a far stretch to say that aliens don't exist I mean the drake equation tells us that there are lots of aliens out there somewhere but I think that if they are coming here, it's more observational. And and i think that a lot of these things that we see their covers They use aliens as a convenient cover. You have the scare films of the 50s and 60s with Aliens War of The Worlds you know? It's always these kind of alien scares thing and in I think that they use it

2:50:56 The CIA used it extensively during the A-12 program. You know, the A-12 was a predecessor to the SR-71. It was silver. People would see it flying in and out of Groom Lake or flying at high altitude reflecting sunlight and the CIA would say well that was... they would introduce stories into the local press and say we saw UFO's so that the Russians and Soviets actually wouldn't know that you know we were testing a spy plane I mean, the CIA has actually used UFOs and aliens numerous times as covers. So... I mean that's definitely an interesting perspective in there you're not the only guest have had who thought that huh? It makes a lot of sense! And you know i love the ancient alien stuff You know, I have a collection of old films that are they're of that vein

2:51:50 the outer space connection in search of ancient astronauts and things like that. But you know, I think that you're hard pressed to find real strong evidence... You can find Andaluvian evidence pretty readily. I think that makes a lot of sense actually, the idea of the Andaluvians but I think a lot of the alien stuff we see is cover for real covert operations Right on, man. Another thing I wanted to ask you about on the subject of the elite's survival plan and them maybe having knowledge of some extreme weather coming that can't be survived on the surface... What do you think about the Denver Airport? Because they have that weird Freemasons time capsule there, the giant zombie horse statue and the weird murals, and a lot of people have speculated that there is an underground safe haven for the world's elite. Have you looked into that at all?

2:52:44 You know, I've looked into it some. Um...I think it's a little too high profile to be real safe haven. The runways aren't done so the idea that it forms swastikas is a bit specious. You have to wait until they're actually done with construction and then make that statement right? Could there be an underground base there? Sure! I mean the Greenbrier had a massive continuity of government facility for 40 years and nobody knew it But I don't know. I think there are plenty of other facilities that we know about like CIDAR and others that exist, and we can see them

2:53:24 You know, there's one at the Oakville grade. CIDAR is obviously the largest I think. NORAD is a continuity of government facility. The seed vault in Norway...I mean there are plenty of places where we can actually see underground construction. They don't necessarily hide it You know, I don't know that they would necessarily need the Denver airport to do that. And frankly you know it would be the worst kept secret in the world. I mean if there is a bunker under the Denver Airport... If something goes wrong you know where everybody's going? They're all going into the Denver Airport! Right yeah that's a good point its too blown up at this point It might have planned to put one in there but I don't think their putting one in there now

2:54:12 Could be. Well, fascinating stuff man you know thanks so much for making the pop in you're one of my favorite people in the conspiracy community You've always been cool to me since I met you and a wealth of information too So thanks for doing this man Well thank YOU and congratulations! I built a little empire out of some crazy garbage called The Blood Of The Exploded Working Class But they've overcome their shyness now, They're calling me your highness and the world screams. Kiss me son of God!

2:54:50 Well folks, another guest who decided to stop in for this is Wendy Tremaine. She was my guest for episode 76 going off the grid sustainable living and burning man which is a great talk and really inspirational to me and a lot of the listeners who emailed me about that one so it's great to have her back also here is her partner Mikey So guys how's life? Life is good. We had a sort of typical day today just kind of I spent two hours running and we spent a lot of time cooking and that's kinda looking like our typical day lately yeah, it was out in the shipping container making kits so we had a bunch orders coming in which is great so it's been a day then

2:55:31 Party tonight. Yeah, shedding that 9-5 life is definitely amazing you had mentioned Wendy that you were doing a lot of serious running I mean can you tell the people little bit real quick about that crazy race your training for? Sounds intense! Yeah, well so I'm nowhere near ready for that but you know some things take a year or two years to be able to do them like running our really long race. So it's such a great example of how my life has changed since I stopped working for other people because I can devote the better part of a year and half to getting ready to run at 220 mile race in the Italian Alps Wow

2:56:17 That's crazy. I probably never run that much time combined in my whole life It's totally crazy and i never ran before either, I just started in November And um...I'm up to you know 10 miles at-in one run So you know I've got a long way to go but I never could have even put this like on the map before so it's fun I'm having a good time Yeah its kinda crazy the kind of things we get into when were not constantly worried about some 9-to-5 job that we aren't passionate about. Yeah, you know another part of that is we started backpacking because again we can just kind of walk off into the wilderness and come back a week later. Nothing changed right? So that goes really well with running so now it's like okay let's see... We can probably go to Europe and run Europe and not get hotels just kinda roll up under a tree have a nap then get up and keep going!

2:57:16 I been really wanting to get into is that kind of survivalist thing of how I'd get by in the woods because i've been a house cat my whole life so, for me that would be a really interesting challenge. So that's pretty cool! How has it worked for you? Have you been going out there with just a few tools have you learned any skills that have been really useful in survival?" Well, like you Greg we were house cats as well. So we got in really easily because we had some friends down the road that had just walked to town from Arizona and they've kind of been walking the earth for years and they sort of showed us how simple it was to be in nature and make a simple stove out of some rocks and sticks instead of having to carry all this gear and just to be really minimal about what you take with you and foraging your food as you go

2:58:19 They've been a real inspiration and source we can tap into for knowledge. So I think that's what you need to go from house cat to alleycat. Yeah, someone who could show you the ropes! Right? Yeah that's definitely cool. I know there are some tracker schools and little things like that It seems kind of funny to pay a couple hundred dollars to learn how to get by with nothing, but yeah it's something I've wanted to do. I've been reading an old Boy Scout manual which is funny you know there's a lot of crap in there but there's a lot of really good stuff too so we're always picking up like little yard sale books on rocks and mushrooms and plant identification and really we're just gleaning the information off the waste stream pretty much

2:59:03 That is awesome. I've actually been really interested in things like tinctures and things you can make out of herbs that have medicinal properties and actually help you out. Have you gone down that road at all? Yeah, in fact quite a bit. One of the first things we did when we moved from New York City to New Mexico was ask what natural garden available to us in nature. And most places you'll find have a pretty small and well-defined list of what's medicine, and in our first couple years here we would go out hiking with the books

2:59:42 match the plants to the pictures, cut them bring them home process them into tincture and that's like a very big part of our medicine cabinet. You did it yesterday you were doing tinctures all day? I was yeah and so just for example we have some really weird ones out here we have a Fedra which is a stimulant in a bronchial opener which is also the root of methamphetamine But taking just from the plant is natural and very effective and helpful. We have Ocotillo, which is like Pepto-Bismol. We have Creosote, best antifungal in the world. And you know, the amazing thing is it's free! You can just knock on the door and go get it. Dr. Justin Marchegiani And not much in life is free anymore that's for sure

3:00:26 But Mikey, I was going to ask you because Wendy had said when we talked before that you'd be the guy to talk about some of the technical stuff for living off-the-grid. I'm curious what you think may have been some of the most impressive or most important life skills you gained from making this switch to kind of do it yourself life? Um, there were certainly a lot of challenges I think getting our PV solar system up was surprisingly difficult for us like it took. We bought the gear and the batteries and panels in the racks and all that and it just kind of sat in a shipping container in our yard for years. I didn't have anyone I could really call and say install it. So, it was all on us to figure out how to wire up the batteries and hookup the panels and make sure that wire gauges were correct in the trenches were deep enough and we actually had a pass an electrical inspection so that was probably one of our biggest long-term expensive challenges

3:01:18 I ended up doing a few other small installs for friends after that because there's just no one around here that'll do installs. You get remote enough and there just aren't companies willing to come out and do it. And you also threw some technology at some of, just the very domestic problems we were solving like... We spent a lot of time fermenting and cooking and trying to process foods So you came up with a temp controller? Yeah, I think To answer the other half of your question, Greg is like what was the thing that we kind of got the most out of and I think it was fermentation for us became a really big deal. It was so nice to

3:01:57 sort of increase the value of food. So if you start with fruit, which isn't generally that expensive and you ferment it into some sort of wine and go from grape juice to a nice pinot wine or something, real increased value your creating in by doing that yourself. So we go from buying grape juice at very low cost and going up to having 30 bottles of wine, which is a value of hundreds of dollars. That was a huge savings for our household and kind of fun thing for us so we did put a little technology behind the fermentation

3:02:38 Do that on a reliable basis like making yogurt is no big deal, but if you don't have a way to hold the temperature Like a light bulb going on and the temperature controller That's turning it on and holding like 109 degrees for ya It's a real pain in the butt because now you gotta keep some warm water by it or constantly fiddling with the With the environment manually so So, yeah having a fermentation controller and something we sell as a product was great for us. That's awesome man just having the skills just having those life skills in your repertoire for the rest of your life is pretty fascinating I'm still like trying to get there i'm still kind of enjoying just the free time but when you work at nine-to-five job for decades oftentimes you don't get any skills that translate outside of that job and it's really sad

3:03:27 So that's cool. Yeah, like we had talked about before the show I just recently quit my job and we were going to kind of compare notes and talk about that a little bit one thing for sure that i've experienced is I still find myself once in a while waking up in a panic like I missed an alarm or have some anxiety about like I'm forgetting something but there's really nothing there it's kinda weird PTSD type of thing That's really funny. I have a similar habit of just going to my desk as if there is some reason that i'm doing it and, I really have no reason to do it other than to like clink around on the internet and check my email but I still go to my desk all the time as if I am at work and I have to stop myself. Yeah its kind of goofy

3:04:11 Greg, we were curious now that you've been out I guess two months of out of the workforce. How's that been for you in terms of your self image and their perception others like me tell other people you're not working or you put your job? I think we struggled with that a little bit when we first left. My parents were really upset. I've been working on this podcast and this t-shirt business for a long time. It's been like working three full time jobs, so a lot of people have been pretty supportive and have been pretty positive. A lot of listeners have been extremely happy and positive and supportive about the whole thing. So I'm in kind of a different situation than you guys because I still have a lot of overhead. I'm living in San Diego. I'm renting a place where throwing a lot of money down the drain every 30 days that part of my life hasn't changed much but

3:05:10 I'm definitely trying to do things cheaper and being way happier about all the free time. Like, I don't miss going out to an expensive meal because it also... The offset is that I never go to work so I'm way cooler with that! And I'm trying to find ways to make things work a little more smoothly but So far it's been great and I haven't really had any problems with my parents or family. But when you tell people that you just do a podcast, there is definitely an inside joke about podcasting. Everybody has got one. Everybody is trying to make it their big thing and usually its notoriously hard to make work. But it's fun! It IS FUN!

3:05:50 It sounds like one of the things you left to give more to is the podcast. I'm curious if there's any other things on your wish list that you had, like when and if I quit my job? Well, we have a kayak that just sits there and collects dust. I really want to get that. We're living a mile from the ocean in it and we never take the time to take it out there. It's totally free and enjoyable. People pay big money to come on vacations to get into a kayak and get into water. And we have that free right there so I'm really wanting to do that more, getting better shape, eat better now that

3:06:30 a different type of eating schedule. It's not like I have to jam something down my throat at nine in the morning, get to work, get a 30 minute lunch break where all I can do is run through a drive-thru. You know? I've got groceries now which is weird. I'm learning how to cook things which is weird that's kind of fun it's a life skill that a lot of people should have but sadly most people don't even know how to feed themselves for a long period of time without corporate assistance so...I dunno those are kinda some other things You know, from a business side I want to do way more t-shirts. I haven't been able to put out new designs because i haven't had the time so now that that time's opened up that's going to be fun but I've just really been enjoying every minute of it! I can't remember the last time I was in a good mood all the time

3:07:15 When we left our jobs, we had some skills and people approached us now that we had all this free time. And they're like hey maybe you can help me with this project or I can hire as a consultant for awhile. Have you I've already encountered that where people are trying to like tap into some of your time and you're already on the defense a little bit so that you can go kayaking or cook food and other things. It's kind of funny, that's true! That does-that has happened. And I appreciate the other shows that have had me on but yeah, I can kind of say if someone hit sends me an email like yeah tomorrow sure. I've got nothing on my calendar for tomorrow Why not? Before you know You only have two days off a week one of those days is gonna be doing laundry trying to catch up with The things around the house Hopefully one of those days off is during the week so you can go to the bank or do some of the things that you Can't do on weekends. I mean a lot of people

3:08:12 people sometimes you have to put things off for two weeks just to find time to go out to some of the businesses we have to take care of errands where you're not working. That falls to me in the domain of self-respect. I think there's so much in that area, like for example, you know, I had just written a book last year and that's how you and I met. You know, I was able to stop everything right? And just sit down and write until I was done finish a book rather quickly and then get it out go out and promote it but meanwhile That's two years of your life where you're doing pretty much nothing else. When it was over, I was able to really give myself a lot of self-respect for example, it's like postpartum like you're doing something full time and then you walk off the cliff and you're done. There is this natural impulse to get really busy again fill with something similar or write another book or whatever

3:09:12 But I didn't have the burden of pressure of, I gotta do something. I was able to just stop and let there be space and not know what the hell I'm gonna do next and be totally okay with that which is really counter to the pressures of society like what are you gonna do? What are you doing? What do you call yourself? You know, what do you for a living? Title and I'm really enjoying the freedom of saying, I'm not doing anything right now. I'm giving myself some time and I'm totally okay with that. Yeah 100% agree that's well said that's exactly it. I mean, I guess the next big step for my girlfriend and I is going to be

3:09:53 trying to own some type of home because we're throwing so much money away on rent. We know we can't buy a house right here in San Diego, or going to have to get something out of the way from the city and were actually pretty open-minded and we want to do something kind of creative. We've thought about going the route of one of those storage container homes are some kind of efficiency model for a fixer upper which is actually good question for you guys what kinda advice would you have for people that might be at this sort of decision point? We have a lot of advice. It's kind of a bitter topic in our household because we have unfinished structures that we argue over all the time. Yeah, but we also totally agree, broadly speaking... Well so I'm going to start and then he can say whatever he wants.

3:10:34 I would really say the most important thing to someone starting out to do this is realize that your taxes are your monthly nut. So it doesn't matter if you buy a cheap house necessarily, you're going to eventually not be paying for that. Your taxes will kill you so by Well, first of all you have the time to buy something inexpensive and fix it up. You now have that time to become skilled and make that a creative project but live somewhere inexpensive, live somewhere cheap. The game right now is all about keeping your cost of living down so either buy your stuff or you're going to make your stuff. So there's your in road to becoming a maker of things and you have the time to make mistakes, get it wrong, figure it out.

3:11:21 But first and foremost, do not get involved in anything with high property taxes. It'll kill you." I would just add based more on the structure itself Greg like you were talking about using maybe shipping containers to work with. We have found that it takes a lot of work to work with local code enforcement. It's really, if you have even out where we are which is remote or 70 miles from large population we still have code enforcement issues and it kind of like put one of our projects to a halt And even though we had a structural engineer and other people involved with building an unusual dome out of paper, rebar and all that it still got difficult around the plumbing and electric side. So I would say build something you can put up fast that is super energy efficient so in our environment where we live

3:12:16 based out of post and beam, two by sixes and blue board and tin metal. That would be a very fast efficient structure if the orientation is south you have good heat and good cooling. And that's something that I kind of wish we did early on is just threw up fast efficient structures and not trying to go into the like earthen structures or recycled materials quite as much because they're very time consuming, and then code enforcement is brutal. Yeah it's true and you know it sounds a little anti-green to say these things but in practicality you need a roof over your head along with what he was saying I would say don't put those dreams...you know don't bury those dreams but first

3:13:02 Just get a roof over your head where you're really comfortable and you're not suffering. And then from that position, have your dream projects and build your mud structures or whatever it is that turns you on that makes you know you contributed but it's all a moot point if you're, so many people start out to do green building and they live in a trailer for example. And by the end of the year or no like a little tiny trailer. By the end of the year the couple breaks up because they've been stuck in this closet together for a year. So you gotta be realistic. I'll add one more thing to the shipping container side that if you do end up using some shipping containers really check out the refrigerated ones, the reefer containers

3:13:44 They're all stainless steel inside, they're designed to transport food so that's why they are stainless food grade. And they are insulated box in box there is like R50 insulation all around the inner box those can be really useful on a warmer climate like San Diego is pretty ideal conditions but depending where you are it can be nice to have an insulated box to work with. Yeah that's actually good idea! And just the last thing you know one thing we did really right is, you know the structure that's already standing is the greenest structure. So when we got our property it was just a dumpy old lot with an old 1967 mobile home on it.

3:14:23 Never did I imagine that I would live in it, but it was the greenest decision to prevent that thing from going to landfill and to remodel it. So for $10 a square foot we made an amazing house out of that! And new building is 200 a square foot so if you've got like a dinky little anything on a property go ahead and remodel that for starters because you'll learn alot its cheap and really the greenest thing you can do That's great advice too. Yeah, that's obviously going to be a lot of people's biggest issue is getting that roof over their head but the refrigerated containers is a great idea we had I used shipping containers as kind of an example like visual for people but when we actually looked into it we found that it's not really the best idea they're made oftentimes with lead paint and

3:15:12 They're just not made to be habitable, so it takes a lot of money and work just to get one habitable. But that kind of thing... I see a lot of houses that look like they're fairly open made out of almost greenhouse-like materials and they look so cool! They look very modern and stylish and that's to me the best of both worlds to be able to create something that is very aesthetically cool and modern and different and also insanely efficient because our culture has gotten so far away from efficiency. We're about ready to just run the planet into the ground the way I see it Well, I love the look of the modern cut-up containers and stuff with structures. And I agree with you they can be used to transport some pretty nasty materials like sometimes things will leak in the container or a forklift will pull into the container to grab a load and it'll stab the cargo and stuff just leaks all over the floor so when we bought containers he would actually go to a local container shop pick out the containers once you can walk into mall smell them do a little test and see

3:16:13 how dirty they are and that shop will do all the cutouts for you. So, you can say I want two French doors on the south side and a small window on the north side just to vent plumbing electric fur it out insulate it and they'll do that work its just a lot of money in the end because now your talking about pretty small space if your only working with one cleaner and they're really building it out. So, it's expensive but you can get them ready to go and drop off which can be useful in a jam or on a new property. Consider climate too with a shipping container. So we have two on our property and we live in southern New Mexico And we have very strong UV rays that our Sun is, you know really intense so these are hot metal boxes in the sun Right, so and then here similar if you go to a cold climate You know, you need an incredible amount of insulation. So there's also that aspect to a shipping container It really has to be modified to the climate

3:17:14 I was going to ask a little bit how you manage your time now that you just have this sort of open schedule and kind of got some projects around your shirts and other plans but in the podcast But how do you schedule yourself? I am a notorious procrastinator, but it works really good for me that I've just been able to look up all the guests that I'd want to have. I'm able to do more research and fill my schedule with shows. You know, I can't back out of them! I may wake up and be like man, I don't feel like doing anything today but its on the books...and I made it on the books two weeks ago so

3:17:54 That's kind of how I've been forcing myself into things. But, I have been wanting to do a lot more writing and work on the website becoming a better web designer. Things that you know i haven't really been able to dive into as much It's tough. I'm gonna have to start saying to myself, look man you used to go this job eight hours a day almost sometimes ten hours a day five days a week and you hated it now can't you sit down at the computer for four hours a day and dedicate something yourself? And having an open schedule sometimes makes it easy just slip into two seasons of House of Cards and call it a day

3:18:33 You know, Mike and I used to take friends from New York a couple of different people to Burning Man. And I had this one friend who was an older woman who ran a very intense business for many many years she worked like a dog. Successful? Very successful! And she'd come out to Burning Man and she would sleep the whole night And I don't think she wasted her time. Sometimes, you know...I just want to give you a little room to rest and not be so hard on yourself because if we trust that we have a natural rhythm

3:19:10 None of us are really inherently lazy. We just need inspiration, but you'll be okay so my recommendation is take it easy and be good to yourself. Thank you yeah I definitely feel like things are going to be okay i'm still just working through it and one thing I will say on the positive side for anyone who's thinking about taking a similar plunge now I've gotten a lot of emails from people who already have I had so much anxiety about it before i did it and when i made the decision to do it that was almost all gone. I like couldn't stop from smiling, I really wasn't worried about it like I thought I'd be you would think that once you make the decision once you tell your boss hey man I'm not coming back! You would think that anxiety would build tenfold but

3:19:55 In a lot of ways it was way more of just a relief, way more of just like a wow. Like in my whole life I've never had more than three months free you know one summer vacation but now it's just like and how I'm almost...I've been saying the phrase that I'm 28 and retired but that's really not exactly true but man I hope to be able to maintain for the rest of my life would be pretty amazing And you guys are an inspiration too. I definitely want to start going down your path and catching up to some of these things that you've learned to do, those getting life skills is very important but I could talk about this stuff all day guys it's been a serious inspiration Is there any other events or anything else that you have going on that you'd like to tell the people about before we go?

3:20:39 I do want to just drop in a note about the book that I wrote that came out this summer. It's called The Good Life Lab, Radical Experiments and Hands-on Living and it's basically a manual that documents me and Mikey leaving New York City quitting our jobs moving out to New Mexico everything we went through through on every level from emotional to what we learned. And the back of the book is a set of tutorials, so if you're considering making this leap, you can at least see what happened to us and surely your story will be different but uh... We learned a lot and shared it all in the book

3:21:16 Yeah, I love the book. It's very cool and thanks again for stopping in so glad we could talk again Mikey great to meet you Glad you guys are doing well any last words of inspiration to help people fight back the fear of taking the plunge I would just say, I have to warn everyone. You become unemployable is what me and Mikey say which basically you can't go back when you get this free and things feel this good in this right there's really no going back your one way or another you're gonna find a way to make it work mm-hmm well said well guys take care of yourself people hope you can break free from the chains it's been a blast guys take care all right see ya

3:22:02 I jump so high, I touch the clouds Woah! I stretch my hands out to the sky Weepin' monsters through the night Woah! Please don't... Oh my god people, 3 hours. Well I hope you enjoyed it and the 100th episode was everything you might have wanted! It's tough to edit that many segments together with such varying call quality but I think it turned out pretty awesome thanks for making through that mental marathon folks. Wow...I just want to say thanks everyone in the THC community listeners fans donators guests friends who helped me get this show started

3:23:01 A lot of people comment that most of the episodes before 20 and The Archives are missing, and the main reason for that is because I moved to a full website with a legitimate host. But! I lost some in the move and wasn't really bothered because they're pretty rough shows...and kind of gross for me to listen too. I'm trying hard to be funny, there's no flow or preparation? Sounds desperate THC and myself had not yet found voice, but I have to thank all the friends in comics who helped me out in those early days. When it was so easy to just say fuck it this isn't working and give up having those friends That's what did it. Dave, Romeo, Kyle, Wes, Hermo, Mark all those people who recorded shows we played a game Guess Romeos Race on the show for Christ sake talk about hacky Then I moved on to the La Jolla Comedy Store where I met several comics who are very friendly and willing to come over to my place and record episodes off-the-cuff totally unprepared and unpolished

3:23:57 But that was so cool of them, guys like Gordon Downs who did more than anybody to help me get comfortable in the San Diego comedy circles. Bob Hanson who's now based in New York is a great dude. Mike Vinn and Paul Herman both awesome guys who were brave enough to do mushrooms with me and ramble for two hours way back when. And of course Ari Shafir and Joey Diaz who were definitely doing me a favor back then. Ari came out my car and smoked a joint while we discussed Shroomfest and Joey Diaz had me backstage at the Madhouse Comedy Club. I had brought two joints, and he had two of his own, and I think another dude in the room was packing bowls." And my God was I high! One of the best memories ever...

3:24:35 But why am I saying all this? Well, to get to the point. Yes, now THC is a conspiracy show and yes, I think the world has been twisted to steer people from young age into a job and lifestyle that's good for the system and shadowy old white men who sit on top but not so much for themselves. And that is the big conspiracy There is not enough emphasis put on creativity, passion being independent or working on a dream you care about. And I think that creates a lot of unhappy people and fuels the same old cycles and positive results for the corporate overlords that we see time and time again That really is the battle I'm fighting! And I've had a small victory in my own independence thanks to this show but I want to see more people achieve that

3:25:20 I get a lot of great emails from people who've been motivated to quit their jobs or pursue a passion or move to frickin New Zealand and that's amazing stuff. People also ask me for advice on podcasts and creative projects all the time, and all i can say is don't stop you can't fail if you don't quit And like I said, I'm not thrilled with a lot of those early shows but it's the foundation that THC was built on. The foundation that allowed me to get to this point and i wanted to pay homage to that foundation so I put together a few clips from the early shows with comics who were cool enough to help out Now that show has grown I'd like give them a little boost if we can Go see some live or look them up and tell them thanks for supporting the stupid stoner talking to you now It has been a blast

3:26:05 I had a great time putting this together. As a closer, here are some clips from those old shows you might get a kick out of it and hopefully it drives home the fact that you can improve as you go but don't give up on whatever is you decide is gonna be your thing and don't let the man tell you what that's going to be keep your chin up your mind open your joints lit in your glasses full It's gonna be a great year thanks for everything please share the show and give this to anyone who needs a formal introduction to THC And a big thanks to today's returning guests Anthony Peake, Neil Sanders Kevin Annette, Jock Fresco Jim Elvidge, Lennon Honor Jamie Hanshaw Douglas Dietrich Freeman Fly Colin Andrews Kathleen Martin Olaf Phillips Wendy Tremaine and her main man Mikey Wow Couldn't be happier Here is blast from the THC past You're all amazing I'll see you next fucking week

3:26:56 My guest today, you know if you're in La Jolla You go to the comedy store and you see a marquee that says best of San Diego. You know he's gonna be on there One of my favorite San Diego comics Gordon Downs how the fuck is it going? Oh thank you for having me get up so glad to be back here Of course The higher side chats I'm gonna do it like you did like I'm a DJ I'm also deaf in one ear So it doesn't really matter what's over here yeah We should have a fundraiser for you Shin Yeah You can go ahead and light that up. I'll do some filler There's one joke that I just started doing again because it's really solid, and its the joke that got me... Well there was a litany of reasons that got me moved off to open mic to an employee But uh one of these jokes was Uh I had a one night stand the other day And everything was going great until woman started talking to me She started talking dirty to me

3:27:48 She told me she wanted me to come inside of her. And I don't do that! Most guys would be stoked to hear something like that The only thing going through my mind was why would a hooker want a baby? The first time I went up, I was on a lot of pills and alcohol because I had horrible stage fright. You though need to break the seal Yeah It's only three minutes and this is the thing you're building it up- It is only three minutes No but your building it up in your mind that is something you should respect that you shouldn't just treat this like taking out the garbage Like oh yeah man I'll do this fuck yeah bro You should be concerned you should have a high standard But also this is the beginning its not the end

3:28:29 What's happening people, Greg Carlwood here occupying the fuck out of the green room at the Madhouse Comedy Club with uh... The original motherfucker Joey Diaz. What's up beautiful? Honored to have him here. Honored to be on this show On the blackest of Black Fridays I actually work retail in the meantime when i'm off work i'm going down and supporting the Occupy movement Total opposite ends of the spectrum, you know? But how do you feel about the Occupy Movement man for real. I feel the Occupy movement has to be done in this country but it has to be done to a different level. I've seen the evolution of the protester There's the guy that goes out there and really means it from his heart like you And there is the trust funder who puts dirt on his face at five o'clock and drives with reality parks It and goes down they start yelling about the same corporation as his father was apart of

3:29:19 I understand where the movement went, where it became. Let's hit these... You camping out in front of town hall isn't doing nothing for me. Gotta hit these motherfuckers in the pocket." That's what they react to. If you want to get Americans' fucking attention? Block the iPhone factory! I'm probably only one in this room who doesn't have any control over my own life. You're working. How old are you now? I'm 26. You look like your old mother, boss. And that's the shit. It never seemed like it, you know? You know, it's really weird I got locked up. When I came out, I wanted the American dream so I got married you know? I got a condo, I got the car, I had the truck and I've got a job you know? We're estimating even though it's completely against my whatever...I'll do this keep getting better as an estimate maybe I break off to have my own company

3:30:08 I'm gonna work five days a week. And then Saturdays, you gotta do shit around the house and on Sundays I got to go up to her mother's house and that's my life! On Monday I'll go back to working that's what i'm going to do After about a year of doing this...I was so fucking unhappy I couldn't even come home If I've got nothing left, I might as well just go down doing what I want I got into comedy. When i did the steps, if do this, I have to do this. This is gonna be for me...I can't quit in three years and get a job as a bagel maker. This what imma do you know? I put 20 year of my life into this. I slept in a car for 18 fucking months You know? I took a shit in parks. And I remember there were nights when I got to Detroit and had a box full of change that was it. A joint

3:30:56 and my clothes, not in a blanket or backseat. I would have to count the change and go to Pizza Hut. You know you can eat pizza and take pizza to go with my jacket But today i'm not Cat Williams, i'm not Dave Letterman And we're not even that much of a successful comic but im living my dream That's all that matters Put the effort into something We think were strapped because thats what society wants you to think Yeah Like your strapped They really fucking think your strapped Your never strapped living in America We don't know that until you see these Russians coming. In a year they have Lexus and you say to yourself, are you strapped? How'd they do it because they've been fucking hustling all their fucking lives we gotta hustle more people say the economy is bad You know what you gotta create your own fucking market And sometimes when you think you're creating your shoe shining mark It becomes just a shoe delivery service even if I can know it But she wouldn't have fuckin known it until you got up off your fucking ass listen man

3:31:54 Listen up people, I am here with Ari Shafir. So what really is Shroomfest? Shroomfest is an international mushroom festival where we're all doing mushrooms across the globe altogether not in the same place but in the same frame of mind you know and I wanted to do it on a Monday just because I figured although like straight people would be at work and we wouldn't bother them right but then a lot of people were like I'm one of those straight people and I want to do it I can't skip work yeah like I can't afford to miss a day of work Do you forget that? I do forget it God damnit! I forgot about weekends We can submit it just like means more crowds I wish I could just forget that regular people had huge time commitments That was you know a third of their entire life exactly sleeping another third and enjoying being one One part of one-third. I like to think that oh

3:32:39 In 20 years, my kids could be sneaking out on June 20th to do Shroom Fest. And I'm gonna be like you know what? I was at the first Shroom Fest! I was a part of it! Your fucking father before he hated you! Talked to the guy before he skipped out! He talked to the actual man who set forth this but the laughs... You have amazing laughs! Just do shrooms and have fun so June 18th 19th and 20th don't be pussies yes you can all do it 15 years off. You think 15? Be careful if you're 15, do it really secluded. Yeah no more than like 10 grams tops and... No you don't have to do it at 50. If you're a mature 15 do it otherwise 16 is fine that said Shroomfest we're gonna be doing out on the higher side chats thanks for coming out I appreciate it! You're welcome awesome. You're welcome guys wipe yourself off arch fair another episode of The Higher Side Chats I'm here with Paul Herman

3:33:35 What's up? And Bob Hanson. How is it hanging, Japhter? Two comics from the La Jolla Comedy Store. Interestingly enough just to throw in a sad note an hour ago I looked at the AP and the Illuminati requested a bailout so we're really in a lot of trouble there I am a critic of Obama but i do give him credit for humility he doesn't take credit for it but his main economic contribution since 2008 uh he actually is responsible for the five dollar footlong people don't realize that now the problem is we got fat cats on wall street damn near save the country's it's just really just really hideous. But be careful because um you know, one of the main characteristics of the Antichrist is that he rules for seven years and he is extremely charismatic. And a lot of people follow him and see them as his savior before the real Christ whoever that may be or not be comes into play. So definitely be careful if he does another...if he does his terms or whatever You know 7 & 8 aren't really far away so just be careful with those numbers Are you digging around? Or do you really think- No I'm not digging around The five dollar footlong I made up Yeah That was it

3:34:42 Have you ever watched ancient aliens at all? That's all that shows about. Well not up close, but I've seen the programs. Fucking jokes is what we do. This guy this fucking guy Okay i can say fucking okay good Oh you can say anything You can say shit Wow! I'm gonna write this down You could say damn hell I'm gonna break out some dam and hell later It's going to be after my shitting fucks They have a point though it would be really difficult To get that many people involved to stay quiet for that amount of time. Not that they haven't done it with other stuff, I mean... To be honest,

3:35:19 Talk about it too much online But my grandfather was one of the founding scientists at Los Alamos and worked on the Manhattan Project directly under Oppenheimer And he's seen a lot of crazy shit and most of it like 99% of any won't talk about still even though He's fucking like 85. I mean, but he has seen He saw shit before I was born that people still don't know about I don't really hear much. I don't believe we hear much about in front of families, other people on the planes at all as a matter fact there was a memorial five-year Memorial and oh six at Shanksville for the people on a plane and there was pretty much nobody there now We're gonna Skype in one of those families from no No Jesus hey my friend Randy Savage is here Huge fan Wow huge fan. I'm impressed yeah doing the

3:36:14 think great Carl would yeah higher side chats this is my first time in the higher side chat see I don't want to tell you that dropped the elbow with zillions and zillions of times but never been higher than I am right now thank you very much for having me all right Yeah, man. That's so crazy. Shut up Bob Hanson No one likes you and no one likes your silly voice. They don't just keep your mouth to them. Sorry dude I'm just trying to keep quiet. Yeah occupy Wall Street doing a thing here what I miss Randy Randy wrap it out for us waiting for it. Yeah, I've been thinking oh yeah about Occupy Wall Street We're talking about alternative fuels we're talking about population. We're talking about centralizing our

3:36:50 money but if there's one way to solve every single problem this is my solution and get ready because I'm gonna only say it once never again we need a second referee outside that's what we need oh yeah