Peter Moon | Ancient Secrets, Radu Cinamar, & The Inner Earth Tunnels

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01:31 Alright, Hiresite Chatters charting another course along the vast conspiracy from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood And over the lifetime of THC we have covered some of the most epic and out there subjects i can imagine Aliens, fairies, demons, secret societies, holographic moons lost civilizations ancient chambers and ruins giant mound builders occult rituals secret technology and the conspiratorial kitchen sink But one topic that has been lodged in the back of my mind since we first talked about it in 2013 is that of the mysterious holographic Hall of Records of advanced technology, in an ancient underground facility deep below the Romanian Sphinx.

02:13 Branching off of this supposed place are several long and deep tunnels leading to similar facilities in Iraq, Mongolia, Tibet and the Giza Plateau as well as civilizations deep within the inner earth. The information about all this comes from a Romanian man named Radu Sinamar who claims to be part of an X-Files like investigative department of the Romanian government His story of the hidden chamber and his other investigations into esoteric artifacts, on top of his privileged insights from Tibetan lamas and government insiders would all be quarantined to the Romanian language if it wasn't for today's returning guest Peter Moon who just happens to share a Romanian publisher with Radu and was asked to translate his books into English.

02:58 When we last spoke in 2013, the books numbered four. But after six long years the fifth book has finally hit the American shelves entitled Inside The Earth The Second Tunnel If you don't know Peter is also the owner and operator of Sky Books And he's a publisher of a lot of fascinating things but he's probably best known as co-author of three books on the Montauk Project with the original whistleblower Preston Nichols You can find his books at skybooksusa.com, and he also runs the website for the Time Travel Education Center found at timetraveleducationcenter.com Luckily, he was willing to join us again to highlight Radu's findings from the Inner Earth Tunnel Expedition and also from his own personal experiences exploring strange places in caves

03:44 So brace yourself people because we're turning the dial up to 11 with this one. Here he is, the powerhouse publisher of The Inner Earth Insider and the translator of Romanian tales Peter Moon after six long years welcome back man! Oh can you hear me? I'm not hearing ya. I had you on mute excuse me thank you uh so that i wouldn't be making any noises thank you it's nice to be back with you Yes man this is gonna be pretty amazing the stories in this book are about as epic as they can get and the inner earth is right up my alley but we can't expect people to have an interview with it in two thousand thirteen fresh in their minds so maybe you can give us a bit of a refresher on who raju cinema is and work he's done up to the point of this fifth book if you'd be so kind. Certainly,

04:33 I will similarly abbreviate it all concisely into a few minutes. My book, the Montauk Project Experiments in Time that i did with Preston Nichols was translated into the Romanian language and was personally arranged by a man named Sărin Romuze and he was working as an editor for a Romanian publishing house I want you to look at this and see if we should publish it. He read it, he says yes you should definitely publish it but the owner didn't want to publish it so he went out and started his own publishing house based upon the Montauk project and its been a very successful publishing house for him And once that book got circulated into Romanian It was noticed by a member of

05:23 secret intelligence department department zero reduce in america who saw it and wrote to him he says i have a manuscript you might want to publish. And sure enough he sent it to him he decided to publish it they had translated english they send it to me and it's on my desk for four years until i finally read it, end at the same time after i negotiated to do what i was asked to come to Romania by a time travel scientist named Dr. David Anderson, who had known me for several years and he said you know I will invite you to come here i will pay for you and another person to come etc it's all expenses paid so that's how i got to Romania and i got to meet Sorin Hormuz and i also got to receive a private CD from Radu and basically the story that he had to tell was about

06:21 Chamber that was found beneath the romanian snakes the romanian sphinx is in a area called the butchers mountains which is up couple hours north of bucurest, the biggest city about three million people and romania. Add it's very beautiful area i was able to go there on that first visit and this thing looks like from a certain angle it looks like a carved head. There's debates about whether it was done intentionally or its there by happenstance that Edifice is supposed to be about 50,000 years old now underneath that and in another stone figure or stone what do you call these things? It's not a monument but there's a name for I can't remember

07:07 It's called Babel, which means old woman. It's these big stones coming out of the ground that look like what are called bollards on a ocean liner these big things you wrap the houses or lines around huge and between these two areas and several thousand feet beneath the ground is this chamber that was discovered through ground penetrating radar from satellites which I connected to Dr. David Anderson because his technology is used to stabilize satellites in space, that led him to discover time travel through the principles of rotation and electromagnetics and a host of other factors that relate to slowing time down or speeding it up but in any case that's how I got to Romania and this chamber beneath the Sphinx that I have not been

08:01 that Radu Sinamar has been to, it is full of wonders. Transylvanian Sunrise is the name of the first book in this series talks all about how the drama, the political intrigue and drama it took to get access this place because they needed American technology and the whole story is about secret liaisons that took place through backdoor liaisons that were actually facilitated by Italian Freemasonry who are not held up in the book to be anything good at all. But it was the Masonic connections through the Pentagon that enabled American technology to breach this barrier, and finally the final barrier was done by a man who became head of Department Zero, Cesar Bradd or Caesar Brad as we would say in English and his handprint was needed to open it there was a hand print there It was like a bio-recognition device

09:02 Is it he was being recognized from the future they knew he would be that one to open up invisible barrier to get into that. the caverns which would then lead to that holographic chamber whereby you had tables they could read out your DNA if you put your hand over them and other sections of the table would read out alien DNA from other planets it would show the planet's in holographic form it would show that life forms and if you put your hand over. Simultaneously sections it was so hybridization of the two light forms so this was really incredible and then inside

09:40 there was a projection hall, I guess the deepest place of the chamber. And the projection halls where you could see a holographic history of the world that would be contoured to your own biophysics it was bio-resonant so you would see something different than i would everybody in the audience would see something that might be substantially different and might be slightly different however within this projection hall were three tunnels that go into the inner earth And there are now two books, and the third one will be coming. The third book in the series is called Mystery of Egypt, the first tunnel which talks about a similar installation beneath the Giza Plateau and Radu goes through a tunnel with super high American technology—I mean I say American technology it's technology that Americans don't even know we have officially! One of the testaments to the veracity of this, one

10:39 We can't certainly substantiate a lot of these things, but was that Romania and NATO became allies right after all of this occurred in NATO. Romania joined NATO for the first time so There is a lot of extensible verifications in the second book, Transylvania Moonrise which at the beginning of it lists a lot of Romanian newspaper accounts which have been translated corroborating their original story. The third book I was mentioning, Mystery of Egypt, the first tunnel is about a tunnel that goes to Egypt. The fourth book, The Secret Parchment

11:14 Is all about ancient romanian history not all about it's about a lot of other things but includes ancient romanian history. And spectacular discovery by professor constantine in transylvania of an underground golden tunnels there is alot of gold this is not fiction this is not made up there real huge deposits of gold in Transylvania, which are conducive to super consciousness. But anyway this professor went down and discovered these thrones of gold he discovered a portal to another world and all sorts of phantasmagorical phenomena the young man he was with fell into the portal He came up and told security and it became one of Romania's top secret issue at that time That's the secret parchment

12:09 And then the fifth book in this series, which we're going to discuss today is Inside the Earth. The second tunnel. But before we go on to that I will just mention that there is a new book that I just sent to the printer called Forgotten Genesis it's about the ancient history of mankind and I think we'll be discussing that in the second hour and there is a sixth book coming called the etheric crystal, the third tunnel. And the third tunnel goes to Tibet. The second tunnel goes inside the Earth and civilizations within the Earth as which we'll be discussing here in the first hour

12:52 Hmm. Awesome, man. Yes it is fascinating I'm definitely super interested in anything inner earth and these tunnels i don't know about something like a biometric hand scanner i mean that sounds a little you know that's that's a tough pill to swallow but i mean hey the story isn't what the story is right? It'll become less hard to swallow in the coming decade it'll become much less harder to swallow we're on the cutting edge of technology that will put you into a holographic movie. That's true! And one of the first movies to come out might indeed be the Montauk Project Experiments in Time This technology is now being developed, it comes out of the Defense Department and I happen to have the serendipitous circumstance to be sought after for this story so dynamics are in the work

13:53 The dynamics are in the work to build a technology, a studio. I mean it's already started to... So in other words when you come into a movie you'll be inside the palace or wherever the movie is. You'll be on the beach looking. You won't necessarily be feeling it but you will be seeing as if you were sitting on the beach or sitting next to Napoleon at Waterloo and watching what he does. Very cool, very cool! Yes and there is a curious crossroads between the Defense Department and Hollywood so I'm not surprised that their technology would be used in such a fashion but this is something you say in your introduction here where we're given the backstory and you mentioned it a moment ago but you say Masonic interests in the Pentagon funneled this information about The Chamber to a leader in Italian Freemasonry

14:50 a signal or my cd who represents the hidden global elite that wanted access to and control of this chamber for themselves. And i am kinda curious if anything has happened regarding this power struggle over the last couple years i mean this is an ongoing story so i'm sure maybe there's some kind update on that front, what's your best any is the free mason italian freemason alluded too And the story happens to speak impeccable Romanian. And it's not common for Italians to speak Romanian, they can understand it to a very crude degree but Romanian is the original language of all the Latin languages even Latin so for him to be able to speak Romanian was very unique basically he still involved in the later books but he was kind of like scorched out of things because

15:50 he had to get out of town when the American president and the Romanian president found out what was going on, because this was all being done behind their backs. And when it was discovered there was a lot of I guess what you call upper echelon posturing and negotiation to make some peace in the process he had to get out of there. He could not be politically viewed. He was too occulted into secret so he does show up in some of the later books But his interests are sort of in a different area than these books cover. And he's got, you know, sort of narrow interests and he wants certain artifacts which they're happy to give him so He's not really in the mainstream of this and they have successfully negotiated To sidestep so much of what you would call Conspiratorial intrigue it's not that it's not there and it's not that they're not constantly being

16:54 sought after but they definitely managed to avoid it. Right on, right on well very interesting and talk to us a little bit about Radu's mentors and the wise men he seems to get his information from because he seems to have some pretty impressive contacts right? Well yes you're alluding to the man who basically created department zero for the Romanian Government, Romania intelligence service and when I say most of the people in Romania's government do not know a department zero unless they've read these books. And even then these books are generally dismissed as science fiction in Romania People highly placed in the government have told me no it is real at least Radu Sinamar does work in intelligence There are other Freemasons The Freemasons in Romania which I visit Romania annually

17:55 and I have a Romanian wife as well, which developed. But the Freemasons like to say these books are written by a committee and my response to them is, Have you ever read the books? They go no they are parroting what they've been told. These books are not written by a committee. They are approved and sanctioned by at least a couple of people And you could call that a committee, but they're not written by a committee. Because I have enough familiarity with Radu and his writing style and his personality that there is a complete consistency in these books that he is authoring them. He leaves out a lot of information for security reasons. But one of his mentors—the person who set up Department Zero was

18:50 a man on loan from the Chinese government known as Dr. Xien, and Dr. Xien was expert in paranormal. This is during the communist regime going back to the 70s and because both countries were communists they had a cultural exchange program and communist nations generally were open and friendly to each other And the Chinese loaned him to the Romanian government to set up their paranormal department The romanians in return did education program for the chinese and romanians. Are super intelligent people they're very intelligent some of the top technical people in the world are strong you know this includes apple microsoft, they have romanians and this is not generally known because i know one of the professors they were all his students

19:51 So they're very intelligent people and he explained to me is that while the West was busy in like Western France developing French cuisine and French bread, this sort of thing. And developing accounting the Romanians were fighting off hordes of barbarians or whatever you want to call them so they didn't necessarily develop their frontal lobe to the point where nowadays we're completely divorced from nature You have families in Transylvania The same DNA has been farming the land for 5,000-20,000 years. Whatever it goes back to. So you have the consistent DNA that is still connected to nature which you really don't have in the rest of the world to any marked extent. This is why Prince Charles has a big home in Transylvania because he's very enamored with that connection to nature so anyway

20:51 Dr. Zahn sets up the paranormal department and it turns out this is to deal with what are called K events, X-files events we might say in America and he indoctrinates this young man Cesar Brad from his birth who he's born with a huge umbilical cord He's reported by the doctors who give birth administer to his birth To the paranormal department doctor Zahn comes in to check this guy out and basically tutors him and teaches him his psychic or paranormal skills. In the second book, Dr. Zen reappears but he doesn't reappear to Caesar Brad, his student, he appears to Radu and he appears as a Tibetan Lama And he meets with Radu in the house of a common friend in Bucharest and is indoctrinating or educating him because they're going on a journey

21:54 eventually to Tibet, and he reveals that he is a Tibetan lama that escaped the siege at Lhasa when the Dalai Lama had to move out of Lhasa and go to Nepal. And he somehow reinvented himself as a doctor in communist China. So, he said he has friends around the world and he's a very mysterious character with a lot of paranormal abilities himself. And in this new book Inside the Earth gives one of the most insightful diatribes on black holes as well as the physics of the inner earth which is something that is not...it's one of the most valuable contributions

22:43 In this book and perhaps the whole series is he goes into the scientific description of how there can be an earth as well as everything's formed. From the planets comes from a black hole this is black hole theory that is not taught in physics because they don't understand it and will eventually work its way into academics So this is what we're dealing with perhaps the most exciting parts of the book or when he actually goes into the earth and has adventures with civilizations in culture. Yes yes indeed i did want to talk a little bit more about the black hole inside the earth because you know

23:26 There's a lot of context there as you say how planets are formed and it is really interesting material at jobs with the lot of stuff we've heard from previous guests can u. Give people little more info on that can elaborate on the composition of a planet or how plan forms well i will do my best, of course when people think up the earth there's a lot of information that its molten lava and beneath that is this hardcore nickel or this sort of rock substance, it's just a hard core. Well all of this and I'm not going to go into the details here because you can read in the book it's something called the Cavendish experiment scientific knowledge about the inside of the earth is all based upon the Cavendish experiment which is a huge assumption

24:32 It's all based on assumption and in this book they tear apart the assumption and why the assumption. Is it a sumption most people probably never heard of the cabinet experiment but he says science as a body politic just sort of. Oh the cabinet experiment like yeah, Right and it relates to seismic waves in the fact that they don't seem to reverberate or be traceable through the center of the earth which indicates the possibility of a. Cavern of some kind or avoid exactly and i used to go through this with the speed of light you can surpassed the speed of light blah blah blah and i use to hear preston nichols my co author on the radio people would call up with their and you have some old,

25:28 where the old gentleman in his armchair saying, I know about Einstein. You can't go faster than the speed of light and Preston who knew this stuff backwards and forwards says you cannot go faster than the speed of light in this reference frame he says look at that special theory of relativity and Einstein talks about reference frames In other words people don't understand Einstein it's not that he said this people say that he said And when i first went to romania my first trip. My second trip actually and david anderson was lecturing on time travel technology time travel theory he said something to me that you would spend time to show me something

26:16 I'm a concept and i said something about reference frames he says oh if you understand reference range of understand this email about reference frames any was impressed that i knew something about them just the last for my previous association with preston open the whole door to what has become the time travel education center which i strongly encourage people visit. Www time travel education center dot com where u can see Seven free videos explaining the basic math and physics of white time travel is possible. How it is possible to get an eighth grade level although it might take a few run through because it causes you to think in different ways than your used to yes and yeah people definitely should do that there's a lot of fascinating stuff there

27:05 Some of the context I wanted them to hear about how planets form is that planets, according to Radu's mentor, form as a black hole vortex and then subtle water from the etheric plane is condensed into liquid water on the material plane. And of course that forms around the planet. And what I find really interesting about this, and it was one of my contacts that works with a guy named Nisim Haramein in the holofractal community, a guy named Ross He brought this up to me not long ago, this fact that your new book was out. And as epic as it sounds it's a pretty spot-on match for the work they do! This idea that what we call electrons are really mini black holes or singularities whatever term you want to use It's these points of vortex light that entangle our material reality with the ether

27:58 and the fractal nature of reality scales up to planets, you know from electrons to planets. And that's exactly what they suspect or conclude is that the inside of the earth is an inner sun or an inner singularity or an inner black hole again whichever term you want to use but this being such a match just added another layer of intrigue for me and probably a good portion of the listeners to because no seems got a lot of fans out there well yeah i am really what it comes down to i mean this is really an existential examination. The inner of the world right and you're moving into see we think of consciousness as a bunch of

28:49 human beings as chess pieces running around on a board that we call planet earth and they're getting smarter or they're killing themselves or whatever they doing when you read this book you get the idea that consciousness is emanates from the black hole itself this is the conscious and what you have in human beings is a result of fragmentation fractalization from what might be termed a stellar mind or black stellar like a black star, black hole mind that is all sort of the effect of what has emanated from the primal cause. And then you saw these human beings like they've been splattered against the wall

29:41 And then now they're forming and coming back, and they're having consciousness. But it's all split-consciousness. It's all a bunch of people going back to the source trying to get back home so to speak if you want to look at it that way. So the consciousness is in the Earth. He talks on a bigger viewpoint of the planets have a consciousness. You know Gaia And it would apply to the planets Venus and Mars. There is a Venus version of Gaia on Venus, and a Martian version of Gaia on Mars. The whole solar system would have one as well with the galaxy itself in the core of the galaxy is a black hole

30:21 Indeed and you mentioned the black star and of course the Black Sun is also one of your previous books, And it's also a potent occult archetype that we saw with Nazi occultism in some other places. People speculate as to exactly where this concept got started but this is supposedly a reference to the inner black hole We know the Nazi party or the German occultists were very interested in the inner earth and Tibet black sun symbolism, it kind of fits. Well yes and of course the Germans discovered the Black Sun which is a really another name for a black hole with specific reference to the black hole in the center of the galaxy as equally could apply to the inner earth but this was discovered and I'm trying to find his name he's got a very long Indian name i'm not going to turn it up fast here but

31:19 this Indian man mathematically established that a black hole exists. He presented this to Sir Arthur Eddington, who is a very pivotal character in the history of physics because he was the one who conducted the observations which established that Einstein's general theory of relativity was certainly true by a region of watching eclipses and whatnot. He was the only one who understood it, he was a brilliant mind in one respect but when he read the papers of this East Indian gentleman, he referred to him as a yellow nigger... Whoa now! Yikes! ...and he rejected it and so the Nazis were able to take it appreciate it and they had a computer that

32:27 far ahead of the American computer. The name for it, I can't reproduce right now. I've written about it in my newsletters but the Nazis figured out the whole concept of black holes and they took this man's research and ran with it so that's a whole other sub story that has nothing to do with this book but the whole subject of black holes is indeed something that regular academics is scratching their heads at. Whenever I have occasion to watch some TV show, whether it be on PBS or the History Channel or some science channel, it's like I can see where they have holes and they just don't know what they're talking about so they make

33:16 Grand and mysterious, and you know we're at the horizons of knowledge so this book undercuts this and it educates people on a level They're not going to quite get educated on in universities indeed at this time It will leak into the universities only because inevitably they will see the logic and the sense of it Yes And they will run with it further Yes and it's true we have to constantly deconstruct the official paradigm and find all the errors in a try to reverse that damage but, Something that really resonated with me in this book is some of the diagrams and sketches that Radu produces where he tries to explain how this inner earth works. Most people who get even a little bit into the inner earth or hollow Earth stuff quickly stumble upon this fact, they're supposed to be big holes at the north and south pole that a ship can travel into

34:15 how one would do this is always a bit hard to visualize, but he breaks it down with pretty impressive detail. And just to quote that section, It's easier to get there if there is a shared resonance between the frequency of the etheric plane and the individual's frequency. it also depends upon the speed up the boat as it intersects with the magnetic and gravitational lines If it fluctuates you will miss entering in the precise point where the magnetic lines at the poles are aligned with the gravitational field The important thing is that the boats speed must remain constant, You cannot get

34:52 in near the equator because the magnetic field lines are perpendicular to the gravitational field, and their influence does not produce this effect. Instead biological diversity is encouraged at such a locale." And that's true! But at the edges of this magnetic cone in the Arctic the magnetic field and the gravitational lines align, and you can pass through. And then he's got these diagrams of how it works. And to me if we think of everything as frequency, and you have these intersecting vortices I don't know! I could see it! I could see it Peter! But he's done a great service to the entire subject of inside the Earth The US Congress in the 1700s

35:40 or the early 1800s, don't remember which I think it was the early 1800's funded a mission to explore the inner earth. They came up i believe with nothing but I would also tell you that would be the official version of course so it's been taken very seriously and there's always an aspect of governments that don't tell you everything that's going on and he writes a lot about vibrational frequency. Like there's an inner world that's vibrating at a different frequency than we are, it's not much different than turning on a TV and going from one channel to the next where you're getting a different frequency from channel five to channel six or whatever so it's like you've got to tune in and this is what consciousness is all about

36:44 And as he goes to explore these realms, because he actually can go from one dimension to another. But it's most often done with the help of some sort of technology that is very exotic and generally crystalline in nature. It takes a while for your body to assimilate much like if you were going underwater. You go deep under water and you've got to come up slowly so you don't get the bends It's an affirmation and getting used to a different type of. Consciousness in a different type of vibration or frequency any kind of make sense to because if the earth has this singularity and it ends that is peak entanglement and then you can have

37:38 Layer out from that and it's almost as if the thick crust of the earth is a barrier between this complete entanglement and this physical. Dance material reality on the surface that we feel so you could understand how when u go deeper through these layers, the theory maybe gets a little more real and things may be get a little bit more air centered instead of earth center if we wanna talk elementally but It is fascinating and maybe we can get a little deeper i can't believe it's already half hour in this thing but you know maybe we get deeper no pun intended into the. Story of the second tunnel i mean raju is told there are several layers the inner he's actually taken to a couple of cities beneath the surface, please not taking straight to the center of the earth that kind off limits and as you say maybe have the extreme bands to go down come back like that

38:36 but it seems like the physics get pretty strange down there and he's first taken to a city not too far down in a cavity in the earth crust and this makes sense to me the moho layer of the earth is pretty well known, add its twenty two miles down it's a big honeycomb sponge like layer full of open space. We've already found underground oceans and forests that are not even controversial. So civilizations in the Earth's crust are not a stretch for me, but can you tell us a little bit about this first city of Tomasus? I think it's how its pronounced that he was taken to. Tomasis and I have a surprise to share with you about that in a second but might not be as important as the story except that I was in that area this last summer, not in the city itself

39:27 Tomasus is underground, and it's a real underground. The second underground city he goes to, Apollos, is a whole shift in vibrational frequency. This is a real physical inner earth city. In other words, he's not switching dimensions and there is a whole ecosystem bioculture down there which is different with lights sort of a sun emanation coming out that's actually putting heat out into the area that is not our sun above, but it puts heat. The light is not as strong but the real I think key thing to grasp here is that life biodiversity is far more

40:18 biodiverse than we might imagine. In other words, if you go down to the depths of the ocean you see that the fish down there don't look like fish they often have neon lights and they're almost like strings you might hang on a Christmas tree When you get into this area life has found a way to survive in a way that is different so this is a key thing to grasp But what I was going to say, this area Tomasus is underneath an ancient city Romanian city historically called Tomas which is in southeastern Romania not far from the Black Sea nor the border of Bulgaria. On my trip this year I wanted to explore this area and I combined it with a personal desire I had

41:22 And the city of constanza on the black sea who had made these wonderful cakes without sugar. And her niece to give it to me and i said this is fantastic i want to meet your aunt so two years later i go with her husband, her husband was my escort on my entire trip in romania this year he's a good friend of mine so we went to the house and after we had lunch with the end i got to meet the at a wonderful romanian lunch and We went looking for this cave. There was a cave I saw on the internet and we went to the cave, found it with some difficulty It's like right out there in the open but you can't see if if don't know where is because you can't see from the road. It's like 100 meter walk or something like that To get there we went into the cave and this cave its a labyrinth You're really not supposed to go in it. We went into about 50 feet, 100 feet

42:27 And we meditated, but it goes on and on and on and on. You could get lost in there. This is supposed to lead to the actual city if you knew how to get there. We later met a shepherd on the way out who told us that he'd never been in there but his father had been in there. If you go past this certain point, there's big rooms where you could drive a whole ox cart in so this was another validation There are a lot of caves in this area and throughout Romania. Many of them are shut off, you know for people's protection and what? Sure sure So this is one city he goes to which is kind of a warm-up To go to a deeper city with Apellos Which is actually changing his vibrational frequency And going into deeper

43:26 adventures still and having deeper impressions on his consciousness, ultimately leading to a point. I mean he has several excursions through different places one of the ones that fascinated me the most was Yosemite yeah He was called to Yosemite with his mentor Cesar Brad because the Americans it was an Indian reservation that I guess they kind of had military title to, but they respected the Indians as the shamanistic or genuine owners of it. But the military knew about this so they didn't understand this portal and they brought these two Romanians in because they had experience with such They met the shamans The shamans admitted entrance To the inner earth, to these people, to the Romanians whereby They were able

44:29 be told of a meeting they would have in a different location in Patagonia, southern Argentina. And I guess he got a glimpse of the great fabled city of Shambhala and when they get to Argentina they meet another shaman and these portals that they go through in Yosemite and Argentina are not technological portals they're shamanistic portals. So, they might not look so...you know, they might just look kind of mundane and one of the things about the Yosemite portal I looked at in The Village, the Yosemite reservation looks just like one of the diagrams in the book you know? It adds to the corroboration that he was there and I hope to be visiting that portal

45:24 Later this year, not I don't know the portal. I shouldn't say the portal the Indian reservation right? I've been doing my own separate investigation independent of my Romanian adventures into the gold country of California in which Yosemite sits The mother load which is the name for the huge deposits of california has not even been touched. The gold rush was surface gold and surface mining but the real core of gold and of course you don't go there to get the gold, you go there for the consciousness that the goal facilitates right right as a lot of people talk about monotonic gold this like highly highly concentrated

46:06 Ethereal gold in a sense it gets wrapped up with alchemy but it also gets wrapped up and not the idea of. Healing springs and people are like you know there's these legends appealing springs and some people have insinuated or research the fact that maybe these healing properties come from a, What's up deposits of this monotonic gold and it seems like a real thing but it's very off the radar and potentially even really quite rare well, i've written about this in my book the black sun about monotonic gold. Any the whole tradition of egypt is based upon that's gonna cause today grass

46:57 They do have a special isotope of the monatomic gold mentioned in the first book, Transylvanian Sunrise. In the chamber there is that substance that does exist in some vase or something so definitely aware of it now we're coming upon 44 minutes after the hour I just want to tell people if they're interested in the books to go to skybooksusa.com, skybooksusa.com and you can find books there You can also find my books on Kindle Amazon iTunes Nook etc etc and in bookstores Yes! I always cut that stuff in from the very end of the show to the free hour as well so no worries everyone will definitely have all the information they need

47:48 You know if we are talking about that fifteen minutes left in the first hour i would like to maybe talk a little bit more about substantiating these claims i mean. What what else can we say to kind of validate this for people who are trying to figure out what to make it does raju ever, Speak on his own i mean does he ever give interviews can we see him first hander what can one more can we say to kinda like get these skeptics on board cuz there's some pretty epic things were talking about well. Red do does not do personal interviews he lives behind a cloak of invisibility you can imagine all the attention he could attract in the book just read,

48:43 Or the inside of your he totally disassociate himself from any websites out there that claim to be hammer claimed to be in league with him except for myself and of course i do not grant dies him, i just basically write the books and make reports on it i don't claim to know this that or the other thing. Other than my own personal adventures which i do report on in romania which have been relegated to the physical plane And in the second hour, I'll go into some of my own adventures. Because you know, I went deep into a cave this summer—a mile deep into a cave in Transylvania and generally in pursuit of some of the mysteries that have been handed to me. But the whole history of mankind is filled with tales of the inner earth

49:36 This is not a new subject at all. Right, right I mean there's the stories of Admiral Byrd There's the Richard Shaver stories Yes There's Jules Verne Mm-hmm Jules Verne wrote the book The Journey to the Center of the Earth And Jules Verne by the way married or had a girlfriend, he was virtually married I don't know which it was to woman in Transylvania. He lived in Transylvania he wrote a story called the castle of the Carpathians being in Transylvania its named after a fortress in the town of Dava which I've been too

50:13 He not only wrote about the journey to the center of the earth, dinosaurs in the center of the earth. And I visited a museum in Transylvania—it's a small humble museum which shows how dinosaurs actually... The whole story of them and their history originated in that area Oh yeah, I mean there's a ton of stuff out there that i really love. The things you mentioned, the Olav Jansson story at Adorfa beastmen and gods but how do we know this story is true? The Radu Sinamar story Is there any more validation we can get? There is one thing you mentioned that A key area near the Romanian Sphinx seems to be blacked out on Google Earth That's something! There are more areas that are blacked out in Romania

51:01 most people wouldn't know to look for. But what I'm saying is, you don't get proof of this stuff until you actually experience it but what he does perhaps the most convincing or corroborative aspect is that all these other accounts leave too much dangling too many dangling participles so to speak What he has done is taken the proposition And advanced it you know seventy five percent to the finish line he gives you the scientific foundation. The scientific thesis of why there is an inside your friend why these people who are telling me stories, where telling a story and why they started evaporate as well he gives you a

51:52 position with which to understand these stories and of course he puts forth other stories in what not, and what it's enabled me to do is put certain ideas in my mind. Which now enable me to evaluate other information I've read on this topic or other topics and understand more clearly so as the correlated These experiences, it's all about experience. And you can find people who can talk of their own inner earth experiences and whether they're off the rocker or not they might sound like they're off their rocker You don't have to judge them but you can judge the way that communicate in other words It fails the buzzer if your planet quiz game because it just doesn't add up right? Well he helps you add things up I do think

52:54 Any of this is proven until what is it that phrase the blind man who will not see or cannot say so this increases your database with which to evaluate information on the subject and thats the most important thing like a skeptic now. A very good friend of mine who's very astute in Romania, I was telling him about my adventure to this cave and whatnot. And he said, I don't believe it you got to show it to me well this attitude is not progressive because if you have an attitude like that It's like well show me You know? And I'm not gonna invest in that stock! You have to show me that stocks going up

53:49 Well, by the time it goes up it's too late. You say this stock is going to go up from $5 to 100? I don't believe you! Show me!" Alright here okay let's see what went up oh good well it's too late for him to invest in that attitude is not progressive It doesn't mean you have to believe and this is a very sore point that many people believe things and they shouldn't believe things. They should look at stuff as information, as data and then go by their experience and see if it applies I don't want people to believe in the inner earth It's not healthy to believe in things. It's okay to entertain the idea And I would also tell people that the whole foundation of the Rosicrucian

54:48 Mystery School, if you go to the tomb of Christian Reusenkreuz, the supposed titular founder of the Rosicrucian order on his tomb—which you can't find because it's I think in an invisible place but there are replicas of it. It says vitriol, V-I-T-R-I-O-L that stands for a Latin phrase which I'm not going to repeat in Latin because they don't have it but it means, visit the interior of the earth and by rectification thou shalt find the hidden stone. The inner earth is a mystery tradition of the Mystery Schools which was only arcane knowledge which means for only a select few and basically visit the interior of the Earth and by rectification which means correction constantly correcting your viewpoint

55:51 You will find the hidden stone which is a philosopher's stone the stone of immortality yes i love that i mean it's true so many. Secret societies and an issue tori orders the inner stuff is very much wrapped up in them even some authors like you mentioned jules verne who've written about this stuff and their work has been propelled to the forefront of culture they apparently have connections to writing guilds and committees that Make sure there's accurate information layered within a story presented as fiction and. This is been a lot of fun man i mean very insightful stuff i definitely love those details that are in the book that talk about mechanics of getting to the inner worlds like the story of,

56:40 Tomasis, which is pretty compelling. I mean, I don't hear about names of inner-earth cities very often so very enjoyable stuff and before we go is there any other info to share with people out there? Other projects social media links reminders of your website URLs all that good stuff well you know the skybooksusa.com time travel education center that's where you want to visit on the website The next three years dedicated to getting out at least three books of douglas detrick. I was detrick roswell and the rising sun which tells the whole history of ross well it's not the version that you are community is used to or will like but how about with all inspired by japanese balloons

57:33 But it's an incredible story. It's an incredible story of history, so I will be doing that in tandem with whatever Radu produces. I've learned that i can now produce two books a year. Very cool! Hard at work? Yes. Well awesome man. I really appreciate what you do. I do hope to get some sort of personal confirmation on these inner worlds sometime in the future fingers crossed. You know not gonna hold my breath but I guess, I just got to get it through the grapevine for now and that's okay. But this has been a lot of fun! Thanks for spending the time with me. I enjoyed it thank you very much You got it take care out there Okay Hey hey hey Hireside Chatters happy holidays and all that jazz hope it's going well for you and yours Peter Moon in the Hireside house once again bringing some really far out and interesting stuff to the table

58:28 I do feel like i was a little hard on him with parts of the story, although I knew a lot of it. When I heard biometric hand scanner that worked for the person who happened to be carrying out the exploration as if it was destiny... That was a bit much for me but who knows maybe it would have worked for anyone? Maybe it hadn't been calibrated in a while! I guess the story just is what the story is And at times we had a little disconnect where I probably wasn't being clear in that, I know we're not going to get verification or proof of the inner world just by hanging out on the surface. But i guess i was more trying to say what can we look at? What surrounding evidence to this particular story can we look at to validate it? Can I see Radu somewhere on YouTube in video form? No he has no appearances

59:19 Can I find the Romanian version of the book online? No, they don't have e-books and it seems that you have to be in a physical bookstore in Romania to get it. Okay well...I guess that's fair! I want to hear the story, I like the story but I also want to help make a good case that this is legitimate because I'm open to it but what do we have to go on? What else can we say to strengthen the case short of actually going to these inner cities Like I mentioned in the interview, if we don't have the things that i just listed previously what do we have? Well Peter says a lot of these sensitive areas in Romania are blocked out on Google Earth. Okay! That's something. Peter also says he's talked to a lot of witnesses that say there was an influx of US personnel at the time Radu says this discovery was made. Okay now we're talking that's also helpful what else

1:00:14 And that's where I wished we could have added a few more logs to the credibility fire, you know? I like Peter and find this stuff really provocative. It is why I reached out to him again! I think i mentioned reorganizing and tidying up the old archive... ...to make sure everything is plugged in right and the artwork and titles are all consistent. And im going from beginning and right now I think Im up to episode 100 or just a couple past that now. And I thought wow this was a really unique one And I also mentioned one of the guys who helped me set up a few really good shows, also brought it up to me. The book does have a lot of interesting detail about how to get inside the earth at the poles and how the physics of some this stuff works. Ultimately Peter is really just a translator so i guess i can't expect him to recall all that detail

1:01:09 but I tried to bring some of it out on a couple of the big things that i liked most and how it jives with the holo fractal model. So hopefully you enjoyed that, I think it's nice to get some of the early guests back from THC's history now that well number one I'm better at doing this in general than I was in the past also we now have two hours with every guest the audio quality is better And the audience is much bigger, so it's kind of a thank you to them for showing up when I wasn't shit. So I guess, you know, N-bombs aside...I enjoyed the ride! Maybe we should talk about that? I mentioned it to a couple of colleagues who asked if I was going to edit it out and I said no That really isn't why I edit this show. I don't edit for content only to smooth out the conversation and make it have higher audio quality

1:02:06 And maybe this is a shocker to some people, but I'm really not one to get offended by words. I care more about intent and this was a quote so i guess it is what it is. I'm not gonna clutch my chest and say oh my! As always, my guests are adults and they get plenty of room to present their material as they see fit... ...and I'm not the speech police you hear that YouTube? Merry Christmas What i do still have mixed feelings about my level of skepticism here it's not really how i do interviews and a kind got in the way of the story telling i think. It's just that it's also little hypocritical me to be so hard on a guy like david willcock or cory gooden having this wild story about the earth without much to go on, and then give this story a complete pass so i tried to walk that line

1:03:01 Obviously an exploration of something is not always an endorsement. I just brought Peter here to present some interesting material and you can decide how you feel about it, but if you were intrigued check out the book series because i found a lot in there that I liked! I really wanted to push through the deconstructing of The Official Paradigm and into The Meet because time can really fly sometimes two hours is not as long as it seems when you're trying to relay a deep story So we fit as much into the first hour as we could and I do appreciate Peter's thoughtfulness around the formatting of the show. He really considered it and proposed a segmentation of material, And i thought it worked! I just sort of run through these interviews without stopping or addressing where we are in it usually but I should say that I appreciated his concern over our format But in that second hour we talked about Apellos The Crystal City

1:04:02 Another place that was visited in this journey. We talked about the work of David Anderson, time travel technology in ancient caves a bizarre antenna that emerged in Antarctica and one of my favorite parts The question if Admiral Byrd's mind had been messed with I really liked that Admiral Byrd anecdote We definitely don't need to hear the core story of Admiral Byrd anymore, but I do like the surrounding context and side threads that i had never heard before. But that's it! That's the show! I hope you enjoyed it big thanks to Peter and do check out Skybooks USA for more of what Peter does best. I changed up the release order a little bit but the next one I think is going to be

1:04:51 loved by all, as it is a returning guest that has only been here once and really brings the heat. It's also a subject matter that has spawned out of the joint sessions had it not been for them I might have never given this material second look but speaking of that The next joint session is tonight December 26th 7 p.m Pacific be there or Be somewhere else And I'll talk to you soon with the last show of the year. Thanks to everyone for listening, you are all great! I could not ask for a better job and i've done my part your move Romanian hall-of-records researchers inner earth explorers and people of Tomasus your fucking move oh no you see

1:05:46 The world isn't random, it's attached to puppet strings Control over everything The 9-to-5 has tried to steal ya Now don't that job seem silly? Hello, can you hear me Or should I play back recordings from some spying agency? Wish we were younger and free. I'll be thankful when it's all exposed, the vast conspiracy There's such a difference between us And the Denver child

1:06:40 Hollow from the highest high They're calling out a thousand cries They'll tell you the story Of everything that's been done Then they'll call out deception Of the web that's been spawned Hello from the higher side The earth is hollow inside They'll tell you about something That no one else will Have you heard of? Have you heard about the real since long ago? Oh, no. They're cartoons

1:07:40 It's so typical of me to talk about the stuff I'm sorry that's good and well Did you ever hear the argument That nothing really happens, it's no secret And that the best is plugged? It's doubling your time Hello from the higher side They're calling out a thousand crimes They'll tell you something The elite have done And they'll call out deception On the web that's been spawned Hello from the higher side

1:08:37 I'm challenging your path And i'll tell you something That the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind where each one has a war Hello from the higher side

1:09:29 They're calling out a thousand crimes. They'll tell you what they, the elite have done and they'll call out deception of the web that's been spun. From the higher side challenging your paradise I'll tell you someday that the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's run, that's the rule