Melinda Leslie | Alien Abductions, Milabs, & Their Eerie Corporate Connections

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00:42 Alright folks, we're no stranger to the ET abduction scenario as anybody with an interest can pore over countless cases stretching back decades and even centuries. But a lesser talked about phenomenon are the military abductions or MILABs where shadow state and black ops groups follow up on genuine ET experiences with their own simulated abductions and interrogations And shining a spotlight on this slice of the pie can be even more insightful when we try to get a grip on the big picture because we get indications of who knows what, who is working with who and what the deeper motivations might be behind all this high strangeness. Well today's guest Melinda Leslie is just the person to talk to because not only has she had her own lifelong string of occasional encounters with these beings and, of course about eight Milab follow-ups that she can recall. She's also interviewed over a hundred fellow experiencers and as a result has a pretty well educated opinion on some of the major commonalities and possible agendas

01:36 But that's not all, folks. She also leads night vision goggle clad UFO tours in the desert of Arizona with a near perfect sighting record as well as being a medium and psychic who specializes in connecting with one spirit guides you've seen her on TV and conferences around the country as well has heard or on coast to coast and all the other major hubs have weird And it's an honor to have her here today Melinda Leslie Welcome to The Higher Side Thank you, Greg. Thank you for having me. Well thanks so much for being here this is really exciting as you know I recently had Robert Guffey on to talk about his book Camellia which details a case of military gang stalking and electronic harassment here in San Diego

02:12 And as we got deeper into things like Milab experiences and eerie corporate connections here in town, your name came up as the real go-to person to find out more. So this is a real treat for me but to start this off I've heard Milab experiences described in a couple of different ways that the shadow state is doing all this to try to play catchup and investigate the genuine abduction phenomenon that the UFO experiences of the past few decades were just a cover and then it's been military the whole time. And, of course, the third option that they're working together. So to clarify give us some better idea of how you define the MiLab experience?

02:50 Well, first off I'll let people know. I don't like that term right? I didn't know that and the reason is i think it's extremely limiting It leads one to think That it is all military or that the only people involved in this are military And so it really falls short from even coming close to Describing it if any covert human organization involved In the in the alien abduction scenario. It's also come to mean things that have stuff going on that has no relationship to alien abduction. In my research, I focus on people who've had

03:31 Alien or extraterrestrial abductions who then get targeted by covert human agencies now sometimes these agencies are military as far as they have military uniforms in their military bases and etc. Sometimes, they seem to be more like covert human organizations like intelligence organizations and offshoots of that. I mean that's not just one body. It's like a huge octopus with multiple arms so there can be multiple branches and groups within groups in that kind of thing and it's extremely compartmentalized

04:11 and you can be having involvement with more than one group or more than one aspect of that at one time. And again, on my research I choose to limit it because otherwise it gets just too big, too broad, too much into various mind control subjects and whatnot and thatís all well and good and certainly come across But I really choose for mine to have a very specific focus of people who've had alien abduction or extraterrestrial abduction, who then get targeted. And it's because they're very real abdictees now with what you're just saying where some people say it's all military well that rules out all the experiences where people are seeing military and ETs combined right? And I think one of the other things you said is

05:02 One of the theories is that they're investigating it. Well, no! No, no they're working with them and there are actually a whole bunch of things going on but one of the things kind of like down the road in the experiences if you start to have this it starts one way It kind of ramps up. I actually in my presentations, I showed this diagram I made of like a curve going along and then you know like a bar chart but curved line going up and I say it starts like this and then it escalates, escalate, escalates and at any point you can repeat any portion of that but the thing I have it escalating to

05:45 way down the road is people being recruited into these programs to participate themselves. And there's a whole string of programs that people get recruited in, everything from things that fall under the category of secret space program, to things that fall under the category mind control, to things that fall into the categories of time travel programs and of course the Psy paranormal programs you know and those are just some of them so into any one of those programs. Oh and another one would be ET communication programs where you're used as a communicator with ETs, and then another program might

06:24 to become a perpetrator of the MILABS. And so some of the guys who are doing MILABS started off as abductees and got recruited. Often those people then at some point had a military or intelligence background, so that combined with being the abductee you know and that's just it your chances of having The MyLab stuff goes up exponentially depending on your background, your family's background and a variety of things. As we know alien abductions runs in families that has been long proven in abduction research that if

07:03 If you're an abdictee, you find it happens to your parents. You have kids and it happens to them. I mean three generations is common like almost all abductees realize that there's a third generation thing now for long time there has been a lot of fourth generations now we are even starting to see fifth generation so we realized that this goes back in families as an abdictee when you have kids it goes forward in your family And we know that. Well, it's also true with the MyLab experience. It often runs in families as well much for the same reason if they're following you as an abdictee they may have followed your parents. The reason you're probably being targeted is your parents already had involvement and there starts to be these patterns like

07:50 people's parents were maybe in intelligence in some way, not just military because you know people probably your age and my age or certainly anyone who is maybe 30 and older or certainly 50 and older for certain is going to have parents that were probably in the military, at least a father that was. That's because of World War II or Vietnam. It is just so prevalent but – so military alone doesn't necessarily mean anything but if they were higher level military, if they were officer, if a parent or close relative was in the intelligence community

08:33 was in the aerospace community, again particularly if they're higher level. If they were deep into secret society stuff so these are things that start to add up and a lot of my lab cases go ding-ding-ding on multiple combinations of them right? And it could be because you know because that parent or grandparent is why they watch for what was going happen to the kids And if you end up being extremely intelligent, if you end up being extremely psychic or have paranormal abilities. If you end up being an alien abdictee, you could get targeted and recruited and often that's the same

09:18 series of events that happens for people who get put taken into a mind control program even if it has seemingly nothing to do with anything extraterrestrial. It seems to be that its recruited and again it runs in families will same with this is kinda like they're using the same I don't know what I'm trying to say. Template, yeah. Yeah! Perfect word, perfect word. A lot of words were starting to come up but that's the perfect word. The same template for finding these individuals and using them etc., etc. Now a lot times some abductees just have really low grade harassment surveillance stuff and it can stop. In other words there may be where they start to kind of monitor you like are we interested in this person?

10:04 Do they know enough about their experience? You know, do they have the things we're looking for and if not then that can kind of happen and then it kind of dies off. So I note a lot of abductees who had a certain amount of stuff and then that it just ends there but like I said Then it can ramp up to the next thing in the next thing and the next thing And before you know it you're going up this curve where you end up in a Psy program, an alien communication program the secret space program you know. I didn't go that far or you become a perpetrator to meet a woman who's a perpetrator sure they must exist but so far i've met if you guys and in every case they started out being alien abductees well if you can beat them join them you know? Well no, I can tell you this the usual case

10:55 is that it is against their will. The usual case, it's still like an abduction related scenario they're undermined control It's not something they made a choice to participate in with a few of them yes they made a choice and usually became because they were recruited into secret operations, often military-related or intelligence related usually out of the military. So those guys that were in the military or in the intelligence community who then get recruited but also happen to be alien abductees. Some of them, it's a choice in their participation but I've met guys that is done in an altered state under drug or hypnosis so seemingly the same kind of event like an abduction even except for they're used as perpetrator and that is really unfortunate

11:51 I think they want your cooperation, but they're gonna use you whether they get it or not maybe. Unfortunately and I mean this sounds pretty dark but it can be and unfortunately come across all this to go okay that's where I started to come up with this pattern of ramping up in someone's life and it can start really low grade and interestingly enough even on my timeline, I don't have that starts with the alien abduction you know, on this line I have a couple things before that on the timeline if you will of how it can ramp up. For instance what makes you an alien abductee can go back in your family as we just said so it can be family involvement

12:35 But in any of those programs that I mentioned, it can be like I said then the secret society stuff. It can also be involved in the aerospace engineering program or NASA or the intelligence community or high level military or any combination thereof but as those things go back so that can all exist long before you ever realize or even have an alien abduction And of course alien abductions themselves can go back in your family. And then there's a historical pattern going back even into not to make it cheap connection here, but I mean this very seriously because they've actually addressed it on the show Ancient Aliens where they've addressed not only – well, of course, it's all about the historical connection but they'd even gotten back

13:25 the elite and those in power, and those in military, and those in intelligence going back in history were involved in this. They've addressed that a couple times you go okay this goes way back but for the individual it can go back in your family not only just the alien abduction of course that can but also these other things, these other areas involvement so all that can pre-exist even as an abductee often you start to have some kind of communication with ETs before you have a physical abduction. Now, most Abductees it starts in childhood

14:04 So it's real hard to pinpoint that. But in a few cases where maybe it started later in life, there was some involvement. It is very common for an abdictee or at least that involvement causes you to then realize you've had this all along like with me I didn't find out I had alien abductions until 1989 but it turned out I'd have them my whole life And it turns out once I started doing all this research, of course my own dad and my own family. So I start checking off those things that was coming up for other people and I just start go well do I have that? Oh shit yeah, I do Pardon my language but no worries one thing Internet's like cable TV because absolutely we are like HBO here say whatever the hell you need to say

14:51 What's interesting about the family lines thing is that so many of us who are involved in it or just, you know, are enthusiasts in it. A lot of people want some kind of verification that these things happen and since we know the exact families that are being taken, it seems like we should be able to monitor those people and catch them in the act in some regard. Has that ever been attempted? No, we're not that far down the road. There's a lot of things even in alien abduction research there so much can be done and I used to joke with Bud and John Mack and Dave and stuff. Dave is still alive but the other two are passed unfortunately and I involved very much with Yvonne Smith and Barbara Lamb and you know etc., etc. Kathleen Martin but

15:42 There's kind of this thing like it, we're so caught up in triage. It's all about helping the traumatized abdictee figure out is this really going on? What's going on you know if there physical evidence and helping them come to terms with that and getting them some kinda support. where it keeps just cycling through. We're not getting beyond that in the research because it's so much about trying to help that person and help that person integrate into their life and live with it, feel supported and feel whole and feel healed we're always in triage. And so a lot of the research that could be done on

16:22 it's very tough. Now occasionally just when things start to get motivated to kind of maybe do that research, Somebody passes away, someone has something other traumatic happen in their life. I mean like a researcher passes away or someone has trauma or something in their own personal life unrelated and they're caught up doing that or whatever. So you could think of like the MIT study that happened years ago. Wow! We're starting to make some real headway and get some real information from real research and then it's dead in the water.

16:58 and just for a million reasons. Occasionally, there's things even now where organizations are trying to say let's take this to the next level and do some more research and get some more data. One of the organizations doing that that I'm very proud to be a part of – I'm not on their primary board, I'm kind of just a consultant to them but I really support what they do is called FREE which is the Dr Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into tongue-tied, into extraterrestrial encounters. And of course Dr Edgar Mitchell was one of the founders and on the board until his unfortunately recent passing but

17:42 But he was involved in it and the managing director, kind of managing the business of it is a guy named Ray Hernandez. And that has I mentioned Kathleen Martin and she's on the board but a whole list of scientists and some physicists even on the board. So it's trying to really come about it from a very kind of pragmatic grounded yet they're all people who are also involved in consciousness study and research, so they're also looking at it from the consciousness angle or from a spiritual angle and that's really nice that there is like no stone unturned you know they're willing to consider all the angles all the aspects because how complicated it

18:27 They're starting off with doing these surveys that people can go online and take these surveys that help you both determine how much you're having happen, if you are an abdicte or a contactee. Then the surveys get more involved now they had me put together complete my lab related survey for them covert involvement survey. It was whole series of questions That's kind of on hold because they're still getting the results and trying to do the science and the statistics on the initial surveys. But they tell me down the road, they do want to use that. Now even in their second survey, I lab related questions but kind of what spurred me on to really work with them is I thought...I mean I'm glad that they asked anything and that they thought to include anything is wonderful but they asked the wrong questions so they're getting a very small percentage because the question weren't the right questions it was like have

19:22 Have you been abducted by the military? Well, okay that's limiting it to military and it's limiting it to only the times where your physically removed by humans. And its like no wait they didn't even ask the question have you been abducted by ETs and seen humans in military outfits or people in lab attire or people in suits present in the scene! You know? Right right you gotta be very careful with your wording Yeah exactly so Even with that though, I think they said they were getting about a 10 or 12% return and then that's out of thousands of people taking this thing. So that's still pretty high numbers now. That's not the only question they asked but all the questions were kind of predicated on that idea and so even then they're getting you know ten twelve percent response which

20:14 is pretty high. And when they start asking the right questions, I highly suspect it'll be at least a 40% response. It could be as high as 60%. When they ask the right questions with some of the other related questions so that's why I developed that for them and I look really forward to when they start using and have it be a place where we can really get some real numbers on this. Yeah, to see how much it's really involved that will be nice so another aspect I'm interested in is I've heard you talk about this pattern of equations or advanced math their formulas being communicated are shown to abductees and that's really interesting because that also comes up in other areas of strange contact like beings encountered on psychedelics

21:03 Can you elaborate on that angle at all? This is what the Millab's groups are after in at least some cases, right? Yes. Yeah good question! In some cases yeah I'll say this in my research...I kind of have it in five... I could do this off top my head because I admit I don't have any notes in front of me see guys this is all just.. I've done this for so long its in the brain. So I had to go through that file, rifle through the files pull out one out okay there we go um okay there's five major things that they're interested in from the abdictees. One is alien agenda and motives

21:41 So, like what do you know about the alien agenda? What do you know about their motives? What are they really doing? Why are they producing the hybrids to the degree that they are and we get more into that if you want. Why are they picking you up? Do you know why they're involved with you? Do you know why they might be involved with your family? Have they told you what their agendas or their motives and so that's category one Category 2 is Psy Ability. They're looking for the Psy Ability in the abdictees, Psy being of course the psychic paranormal abilities. Do you do remote viewing? Do you do psychokinesis? Do you telepathy etc.? So those kinds of things and then they'll test you in those abilities and try to determine what you have

22:28 And how much have you learned that from the ETs? Has it been enhanced by the ETs, which gets us also to the next category which is genetics. So why are they interested in you genetically or is there something different about your genetics? Have you been altered? Are you a hybrid to whatever degree little or lot or anything between? Have you been affected and changed genetically Is there something different about your genetics? That kind of thing. All these things cross correlate, you can see because as I just took that out the side thing there's a genetic component to the side part and then there is a genetic component obviously to the alien agenda motives so all this things it's very hard to separate them because they're all intertwined but okay so the first being agenda motives, second being your psy abilities and third being your genetics or anything different about you genetically

23:22 If it's happening to your kids, why them too? Then the next would be mind control. I'm going to put the one you brought up last but these aren't in a particular order of anything. I would say that technology one might be second after alien agenda and motives so this order doesn't mean anything. These are all equal in significance to them but the next being mind control. How much have you controlled or influenced by the aliens What can we practice or learn from your mind control? Can we develop our mind control – I mean, the covert guys. They develop the mind control techniques and abilities and stuff so you become a useful target guinea pig in all that stuff. That's where there is so much bleed over into those areas. Then of course last but not least, the fifth one which might actually be second really in importance is technology.

24:18 So, it gets into a bunch of different aspects of technology. Have you been shown technology by the ETs? Have you been shown navigation systems, propulsion systems, weapon systems, structural architectural systems? Have you been shown alien languages and this gets into the formula things now alien math formulas alien science so how much technology information have they given you like that? And really, next to agenda and motives I think this is the thing that they seem to be most interested in. And in my case – now maybe I'm a little bit jaded because in my own experience that's what they wanted you know? And some of the other things too but that was predominantly… Are there any other details you can give us about the technology people are shown in these experiences? In alien abductions? Right All sorts of stuff

25:12 Oh gosh, all sorts of... for instance you mentioned formulas and stuff so formulas equations Math, some of these get very complex. Rarely does the abdictee really understand anything that they're being shown and this could be done where they're downloading this information and you start coming up with it in your dreams and in your journaling and your writing I mean I keep thinking as I'm talking about this a very famous case for this involvement would be Stan Romanek who would wake up in the morning and have his walls covered with these. He was writing them in the middle of night, had no idea he was doing it, these formulas or also on pieces of paper and stuff around but on his door, on his walls other people have done that you know? Or they suddenly will start writing them sometimes you remember that you were shown it in experience and sometimes is just like there in your brain and you're not sure where came from

26:08 Sometimes, it's done in kind of like a Stan's case almost like automatic writing kind of thing. You know? In an altered state or during the night or something. Sometimes this is just downloading to your brain sometimes you're shown on board I mean I was showing some symbols and stuff on a screen now not a lot and i think it wasn't really necessarily intended for me I think the aliens were doing something you know communicating with each other and I just happened to see it in that particular case. Interesting! But so that's it, you know where you've shown it on a screen did they have you draw or do something similar to working computer typing or something?

26:47 or on a computer screen with your finger, you know. So did they have you draw it or type it out in some way? Or did they show to as some kind of 3D thing in the air? All these things happen and same with alien languages. First that was all about like math and symbols and that kind of stuff which can be numbers, symbols, all sorts of stuff and equations, and sometimes they'll visually show you kind of like a science experiment or something. And then like I said languages which can be letters or numbers, letters words etc., sounds. Then some people get shown propulsion systems, how the craft works or flies or what drives it or drive mechanisms

27:37 propulsion systems, navigation systems. That's interesting! Sometimes it's shown to you like you're just being taught as if they're showing you a 3D thing or they're showing you an actual piece of equipment and sometimes that abdicte is sat at the control panel and they understand it's kind of a mock-up situation no you didn't just crash the ship that was like driver training but some times The abdictee knows I'm actually sat at real controls. And sometimes that's like a control panel with knobs or buttons and sometimes it's literally just a computer screen, an everything in between people get shown that so navigation systems like I said propulsion other mechanical systems. One abductee says they went into all this detail of how the doors on the ships work you know like passageways indoors

28:32 I have no idea why they're showing all that to me. And, I think too if you're an abdictee and you show… First off the trick number one in abductions is learning to be conscious and present and not overcome by trauma or fear in the experience. If you are extremely traumatic and fearful they're going Shut you down. Yeah, and which is everything from paralyzation immobilization to memory Erasement blah blah etc etc so you have to learn to To have control and be conscious in the experience And it can be learned and many abductees do and once you become present and conscious and free will in the experience that

29:16 where you have an ability to interact, well as soon as you show interest in one of those things. Like if they start to show you and your asking questions and your involved in it and interested in it well their going to show more so in her case they might have shown her a door and she might have said how's that work? She's in class on how the doors work. But I'm just saying, it could be like that showing interest. In my case unfortunately a lot of times I am out of it and I don't – I'm not in the presence of mind or where I'm asking those things but a few times I have when they start to show me something and

29:52 those few times when I have been shown technology. Actually wish they would do that more. Yeah, of course it's only been a handful of times and some abductees get it quite heavily but maybe it's because a lot of times you're I mean you're usually taken under duress against your will in an altered state. Its initial reaction is to have fear or some amount of panic even if you know it's going to be okay just the high strangeness at the beginning, if you have panic at the beginning And I think a lot of times they instantly kind of shut that down so it's hard to get beyond that. So, you know it's a trick to learn and a few times I feel like I've been able to remain fairly conscious and interactive in other times

30:43 Not at all. And then there's the times where I didn't remember a darn thing without, people say well do you need regression or do you remember consciously? It's not like that! Yeah there are experiences I remember completely consciously and there are experiences I remember only with regression and there is a lot of experiences maybe I remember 80% of it consciously and then I get regression to fill in the details But you know those ones that are fully conscious and I remember versus the ones that a lot of regression to get through. And I don't know why it was so blocked, and then is that me that's imposing that or is that them? That's imposing that and we still don't know those answers

31:23 I think a lot of it is self-imposed. We know this, this is a known thing in psychology with people who've had traumatic experiences in their life. You're on a plane crash you block it out You'll remember very few details. It's just, you know there is a tendency for the brain to shut off that area like healing a wound or scar. It shuts it off and walls it up in the brain I think because otherwise when you do have those memories You have severe post-traumatic stress and all sorts of trauma and stuff in your life that can lead to a million in one problems. Yeah, it's the defense mechanism. Psychological problems, drug alcohol medical problems mental problems you name it so I think there is a tendency for we know that anyways that the human mind does that So of course it makes perfect sense with this traumatic experience would do that as well

32:22 Man, great answer. Time is really speeding by here! I know my answers are short. So to jump over to the Milabs experiences one of my major curiosities here like i mentioned in that intro is corporate involvement and this SAIC corporation in particular what kind of details can you give us on that front? Well, in all honesty it's been a very long time since I've come across them. It was just some insiders and some meetings of some people in some of these covert monitoring abdictees

33:00 folks, I came across a bunch of them. There's this – there's this – a bunch that were connected to SAIC or at least one time. I think it is lessened in its significance as when I came across and I'm like wow what's this? All these people are connected. All these people are connected to a lot of things such just one of the organizations you know and it's not like SIC knows all about and is all involved no. It's just perpetrators or people involved or people who are monitoring just happen to have a connection with that. And like I said, now it's other organizations so its significance is standing out by itself has lessened over time and I have not come across it in probably at least 10 years since I've even come across it as a continual connection.

33:52 Some of those individuals are probably still involved with it. So therefore there would still be a connection because do they still have some connection to it? Yeah, mm-hmm but in other words when I came across a pot it was just which is SAIC's what's I'm trying to remember the letters stand for strategic science application International Corporation correct right that's yes science application international corporation and It's just a corporate entity that does science research and stuff in San Diego. That name just popped up for me like 15 years ago,

34:28 up for a little while with different people because at the time I think they were involved with it. Now, not so much you know? So that's it and but it's a good representation of how that can happen. Yeah! I mean everybody knows companies like Lockheed and Boeing and groups like DARPA are all part of this puzzle to some extent but yeah I'd assume there are some lesser-known corporations or off the radar groups that have popped up. Sure well when you get into for instance okay Okay, let's just take a subject like secret space program because that is good one related directly to what we are talking about. And so you go okay, secret space program well it ain't NASA doing it and then its not secret you know? So it's like okay who is doing this how they farm stuff out well even now a lot of military stuff as you get

35:20 military complex and you get military contractors. You go out to Area 51 and the security is all handled by Wackenhut, but that's not the military they're a contractor so what happens with SEIC is there are military contractor and their space contractor with other ones. So you get into these companies that are the subcontractors working for this shadow government, covert ops whatever you want to call it and break away civilization if we start on that but those folks they're the contractors of which if you start digging, you will literally find a thousand companies

36:00 Because everything is handled by different subcontractors. So one time and maybe currently, I don't even know, SEIC was one of those subcontractors but I do know meetings there. There were also a couple of meetings at another company in Georgia that keeps coming up – I'll think of their name in a second. There's these companies that have been like a meeting place for some of these people for discussing whatever and it was just because they were involved there and it was a current convenient place to meet. You could meet secretly in the conference room, etc., etc. So again that is just one of many I've come across at the time as being significant. Occasionally like for – I guess Robert came across it right? That's what you're saying in his book. Okay well occasionally it resurfaces.

36:56 to the other one. So there's multiple of these companies that will resurface and their name will pop up again because of some involvement or someone associated with them involved so I'm never surprised when I keep coming up with all these various names and then they'll go away for a while, come back etc., etc. So I'm not sure that he came – am I trying to say? I'm not surprised that he came across a And if he came to me and said, well what about this company or this company I'd probably go oh yeah those two. You know? I mean haven't heard all of them you know but only heard a few here and there but not surprised when I hear. Right it's the revolving door that keeps us secret. There is one in Georgia that comes up a lot there is a well-known one in Texas that comes up a lot because people involved with it

37:46 I'll say one that keeps coming up in various ways, Bigelow Aerospace. There's one. That's more currently coming up than SEIC and happens to be some of the same individuals so and that's just one little group that's in Milabs and in alien abduction there's this term that an abjectee who is also very well known in the remote viewing field and teaches that and everything by the name of Angela Thompson Smith. She wrote a book called Diary of an Abduction, I don't have it in front me but I think that's the name. I'm at home doing this and my books are all in my office at work. But Diary of an Abductee,

38:29 In that book, she talked about her own MyLab-related experiences. Obviously MyLab – we haven't really addressed this just as MIL for military and AB for abduction so it just means military abduction and again I hate the term but I still use it because it's a term known by so many people But going back to what I was saying about her, she coined a term in that book for individuals that were involved in keeping tabs on her monitoring her befriending her and other abdictees. And that term was minders like you're being someone's minding you okay?

39:07 I like the term because it just makes sense. You're being minded and someone's minding you, and it's just where these individuals get involved in your life to varying degrees. Outside of the abduction events you could have these intelligence people, aerospace people, covert world – people who operate in covert projects on many levels will suddenly befriend themselves to you and sometimes the abject he sees is well this is like a whistleblower providing me information, maybe confirming part of my experience. So it's not necessarily bad I have a couple these individuals and I have over time in they've kind of switched positions with each other

39:50 I don't see it as something bad. I see it as, okay, I'm flagged and I'm of interest so I renew that in a million ways – have been for long time. So they're kind of keeping tabs on me and yet also kind of get fed some information. Of course, you take that with a grain of salt and you don't instantly believe it but you don't instantly disbelieve it. It's like is this useful? But it usually fits my researcher support so they're kind of leading me along by the nose yeah but I admit that and I'm not going to turn around and espouse something they say as God's truth because I'm not an idiot. At the same time, okay, so far it's helpful, it's interesting and it's confirming some stuff

40:32 She had that too and she's also befriended or become very good friends with some of them. Sometimes in the minder scenarios there can be threats and warnings, sometimes they get into very abusive relationships Some people end up getting into romantic relationships with someone in that role. And those usually end very badly. I can understand that. Yes, and now in my case, I've never gotten involved to my knowledge... Well actually take that back there was someone loosely involved that was almost a little romantic thing but it was short-lived and its okay but he wasn't insider and kind of a whistleblower for sure

41:15 this can happen and I tell abductees be leery, know the background of the person. If you start dating someone what's their background? Even if you have someone who seems like they come from the corporate world as a whistleblower providing new information think well why are they what is this leading to? Right a handler situation perhaps a handler and it could be towards eventually recruiting you. They're checking you out on deeper level, I mean if you flag that kind of involvement your way down the the curve as I say, you know. And so it's like what is coming next? What do they want to get you involved with and then you can either choose to say okay or no to something that might be proposed to you but be very cautious and some people get very paranoid when this starts to happen

42:07 And again, it can be very low grade. Like I was saying earlier the my lab involvement can start with just really basic harassment surveillance kind of stuff and then and then can just slowly escalate ramp up to more and more. So it may not involve getting abducted by these covert humans or having covert humans present in an ET abduction that may come later And even if that happens, it doesn't necessarily move beyond that. So again you could be anywhere along that curve of ramping up in your life and then have it stop or have it stop for a while and start up again I mean that happens for people

42:45 or just keep repeating through the same cycle. Just as how much are they interested in you, how involved? Because if you think about it these are groups and organizations and if they are connected to something official as far as shadow government or covert ops or something or military well they're spending time energy and money on you and how much time, energy personnel and how much money are they gonna spend on you depends on. How valuable? Are you useful to them? Yeah, how valuable you are to them exactly! And so a lot of times they just check someone out and realize nope it's not what I want or that person is such a pain in the ass that we don't wanna be involved with him. And I think that happened to me a couple times because I'll get a little involved but then leave me alone for long time and I'm thinking there like somebody goes nah not worth it

43:34 Because they know anything they do to me, I'm going to go blah-blah. People say how can you get them to leave alone? And I always tell people if this starts happening to you the best way again is to leave you alone and go public and talk about it. Become more of a hassle than your worth! So another element I want to talk about is getting back to technology just a little bit. A big part of the secrecy we're told is always that it has to do with the technologies involved, that these kind of technologies could put the energy companies out of business all that kind of speculation. I've heard you talk about the idea that we're having a slow indoctrination to disclosure on some of these things and yeah That's interesting because this guy

44:16 This guy Gordon White, he never ceases to blow my mind but he's talked about some of the major trade agreements and things like the Trans-Pacific Partnership as potential evidence for this. That it could quite possibly be the legal and political framework for releasing some of this tech without losing control of it. Are there any things like that you would point to suggest that this rollout is being prepared? A part me is where do I start... Yeah! I'd like to hear what he said. I'm not familiar with his stuff and sounds like he might really on it So I should check that out. I admit, sometimes I just get so caught up in regular life that I'm not always progressing forward with the research in the way that I should and again triage. I'm usually helping people who've had experiences come to terms with have they had any MyLab stuff? And if so why and you know it's just again triage but that's one area as far someone who says look

45:07 This is the framework for disclosure happening. I'm very interested." Of course, I know Bassett real well and follow his stuff and I was following all the Greer stuff when he was doing Disclosure not so much lately. This, this, this, I'm here to save you stuff is not working for me or for him. Agreed So if not the TPP what are the things that are the clues that show you there is some type of indication that there's disclosure coming? Oh God okay! I'll stick...I'll start with two things That sounded out like sore thumbs. I'm not sure which to make number one. I can start with the one, I might have more trouble remembering once I start talking about the other so I'll start with the one which is and maybe it's number two but just so I don't spend so much time talking about the other that I don't talk about this.

46:00 So the first one I'll say is the amount of whistleblowers and insiders coming out talking and saying, I was told to talk about this. Which is right now rife and rampant in ufology and in the covert conspiracy worlds and everything from Basiago running for president that you know everyone asks me about Cory Good all the time, all these kinds of things so I think there's just so many insiders coming out and talking Pretty much all of them say, I'm being told to do this. I'm being allowed to say certain things it's being encouraged that there's some, and when you say the shadow world it's not like one unanimous thought or body making decisions. It could be one group wanting some information out in direct face of someone else another group who doesn't know what I mean? But in the case of so many these individuals all the people that Carrie Cassie has been interviewing and I don't want to start listing names but I could pop atop my head just ramble off

47:02 They're all just starting to talk about their involvement in these deep projects that are secret space program projects and technology development projects and side development projects, you know all these various aspects of the subject. And they're saying I'm literally being told to talk about this. I think people miss that part of their message. What do you think about this? Do you think he's really involved? You guys are listening to the fact that he keeps saying… Like Corey Good keeps saying I'm being told to talk about this and therefore take a lot of what they say with a grain of salt Are you really getting the truth? You're getting what they want you dear. And what are they leaving out now that person may have that I've met Cory Gooden had dinner with him and his wife and I thought and they talked all about their kids and he was really down-to-earth, and I was pleasantly surprised to learn all that about

47:49 And then you go, okay. Well and he said I am being told to talk about this and you go okay so he's saying what he can. He knows what he can't. I think he has good intentions. I don't think he has a lot of ulterior motives other than just say what he can. I think it is like therapy for him. I think that with a lot of these guys – I knew Bill Youhouse He unfortunately has passed away, but I knew Bill Youhouse really well and that was his whole thing. And when he pushed it too far he got shot! That didn't kill him but it did you know? And Corey Good knows what will get him hurt. These guys know what they can't say that's too much.

48:26 There's definitely a sea change where they seem to be talking about a lot of stuff that wasn't previously talked about. But as far as those sensitive subjects that they seem to not, they're not supposed to go into what did those subjects seemed to revolve around? As far as you've noticed I don't know. You know because she you don't you don't know what you don't know. You don't know what they're not saying right there saying some pretty wild stuff Yeah, Cory Good talks about the inner earth stuff which is fascinating to me yeah What's off the table? I don't know. Maybe, I don't think they're getting into a lot of why the ETs are really here stuff, the alien agenda and modus stuff. Mm-hmm. I don't think they're getting into that so much. I think they talk about the programs but not why and what they're trying to do with those programs

49:12 So that's just my guess, but truth is I and then the other thing is I admit. I don't follow these guys that closely you start hearing them in the end They just it all just sounds like so much stuff and you're like how do you ever verify ain't this? How do you know if it's true right? It just becomes noise after a while exactly agreed And yet I could be missing something significant by not paying more attention to him But I leave that to obviously David Wilcock and earlier, I mentioned Project Camelot and what Bill was doing and what Carrie was doing. You know, I live with folks like that who follow it and say okay, what are they saying now? What's different? How does this relate to what someone said before? And those people make

49:52 a whole research community out of that and great, that's good. I'm glad they're doing it then I don't have to." And then if I really want to know can ask David Wilcock or Carrie Cassie and say no what do you think about this person? Did that sound like what this other person said because they'll go oh yeah la-la-la-la-la all the cross correlation because that their research again In my research, I'm still the poor abductees who are wondering what the hell's happening to them. And unfortunately, I'm kind of stuck there but only have so much time and energy. I mean, I have a full life and yet that needs to happen. A lot people say hey Melinda don't ever feel bad about doing that. That needs to happen. The abductee needs that spokesperson. I'm out there talking about MyLab events happening to people right? So that's my gig if you will

50:41 These people who do follow. Again, I think of Carrie Cass and David Wilcock off the top of my head who say we follow what these other people are saying. We cross correlate what they're saying and I can think of – oh, what's his name? Steve and then Tanya Madden for him and I forget the guy named she made the movie with packing for Mars but so they're following what these guys are saying. So it's like okay there's enough people following that that I know where to go get that data when I want to know it kind of thing but again for me personally starts just be so much noise, you start hearing all these people and you're like okay this is all very interesting. I'm really like where's the evidence? And i'm not saying they're not legit, I'm just saying bring out the evidence or your wasting my time when I work with abdictees I help gather the evidence for their experiences. Let's talk about some of that physical evidence because you have talked about that. You've talked about not only implants which most people have heard about but other little indications

51:39 people's stories do check out. Can you tell us about some of those examples? Yeah, yeah before we get into that people might realize we might have left them hanging in what I think was the number one thing that tells us disclosure is coming It is current topic politically right now in our presidential race. Now whether that means anything's going to come of it or not, I don't know but every word these folks uttered well not so much. I used to think every word they uttered was planned and beginning to wonder but having had said that The information that John Podesta put out and the tweets that he put out in his last days of office working for Obama as was he chief of staff for the White House, and now being campaign director for Hillary.

52:26 And the comments that Hillary keeps making over and over again, you guys... The fact that this isn't been said once. This is being said over and over and over something's afoot. What are they doing that why she's making an issue of it? Is she really gonna go look at it. I doubt it Are they gonna Send up a smoke screen You know, um, I think she's just pandering to the internet community I doubt that no cider like her would really expose much No But you but you have that's easy to say but you have to go back and realize their previous involvement their previous questions

53:12 It's more serious than you think and I think it's countering to the internet means what that nobody come on. Yeah, okay but i'm just saying no i don't think so not that much of the internet community even has an interest in this subject. When you go back to people she's connected with, the questions she's asked on the inside. The book she's read how long her and Bill have been pursuing this? This isn't like oh I'm just going do this right now because it's Try to be in current. It's not brand new for her This has been a 20-year gig for her, you know And it's it's been behind the scenes and what's interesting is that suddenly come from behind the scenes down in the open Why bringing it out in the open Hillary all of a sudden when you've been secretly doing this for a long time Not even secretly you've been doing this with your friends and close associates and words have been leaking out But now you're publicly stating it

54:06 When before you and Bill went publicly ass would dance around it or run away now, you're publicly stating it What's going on? And Podesta come on guys He was chief of staff for the White House saying his biggest regret is he didn't get that done It's like something's afoot and I don't know what that means Is it is we're being primed for some kind of smoke screen to deflect and say oh look there's nothing do it after all. Oh Why? The question, it's not that they're going to come out with disclosures. Why now and what is their endgame? That's what we've got asked but I think somethings afoot because it is current topic. Right! I don't think they have much wiggle room left And I think the involvement of Tom DeLonge... Right Blink-182 yeah we're talking about maybe getting him on here

54:54 I hope he can, but I think that's very curious. Who is talking to him and why? Do they think he is the voice of young people? Why did they chose him? But who's trying to set up the young people for whatever this agenda is? Why him and who is he talking to, why are they being so freely talking to him. Again you guys if he is really meeting with Pentagon officials and stuff like he claims And I believe he is, I don't believe he's making that up If he's really hearing the stuff that he is and if you listen to what he saying He's saying oh I totally agree with why they've done this

55:31 He sings their praises, they've done no wrong. There's nothing illegal when you understand why you will accept it too and that to me sends a tremendous red flag right Because I'm like, wait a second. If this is the voice of the 20-something crowd you know the 15 to 25 year olds and this is the guy that's talking to them and this is the message they're going start putting out oh there's nothing wrong they've not done anything illegal everything okay it all justified. There has been no policy disclosure for completely justifiable Right. It's like they're setting us up for the idea of immunity, but I'm willing to give them immunity for disclosure. I'll make that trade. Hello? Yeah, I find what he says curious and alarming. But I want to pay attention because somebody is talking to him and why and what are they saying? And I'm looking for the day when he wakes up in a light bulb goes off and he goes wait a second

56:25 Because dude you are being used, you're being had. You're being used I hope you fully realize that. He's just playing along he seems like a smart guy so it might just be playing along to see how far it goes but if he turns tail on them and says, no I'm not going to put out that message. But we'll see! And I am not sure what to make of it. The jury is still out but on many these things they haven't made up my mind but they are curious and his whole ball waxed at the same time Hillary and John Podesta were making those statements Yeah, like something's afoot. Well I think in some way they don't have a lot of room left because A lot of these secret sciences and technologies have been quarantined but yet people have stumbled on them more and more over time Physics is only working with half a puzzle So I think they have really no choice But to put this out to us try to get out in front of it so that they can profit like they've always profited

57:20 Yeah, I think you're right. I think it might be now we're just looking stupid and so we got to come out with this at another thing that's pressing them. So yeah the whole time too long thing of your pedestrian Hillary in that whole thing At the same time part of what's pushing that is you have Putin pushing the button on it. Right? I'm going to come out and do this if you guys don't he's threatened that publicly in lectures like five times or something If you don't do this, I'm going to Our government's going, well we can't let him do it first. That would be a mess for a million reasons. For the whole world that would be a mess and so they probably realized we got to...we can't let him do this first and if he is really pushing some of that threat that could be driving some of it too along because to me that tied directly in with what you're saying with

58:11 The technologies are out there to move forward and to really profit them, they gotta start bringing everybody along. I think you're right because I don't think these folks ever do anything that isn't completely profit and financial gain based driven. Right? And well calculated too. Yeah yeah exactly! You go it! I agree, i think you're on it. We're getting down to it and I know you'll also be at Contact in the Desert coming up It's a great event where I've actually gotten my hands on night vision goggles the past couple years and saw alot of odd stuff from the sky so I have full faith in your UFO tours but give us some details what those are like What do you see when looking out there with the night vision goggles?

58:52 Well, last night was tour number 574. So in 574 tours only once did my clients feel they didn't have a sighting the other 573 tours my clients always thought they had sightings And we see a variety of stuff. I always tell my clients, whether we're going to get 10 or 40 or 50 but you know I would think my clients last night would probably tell you that they saw 30 or so. So we always see a bunch of stuff. I educate everyone on planes, helicopters shooting stars and of course satellites

59:31 So you know all about when you're seeing those things and you can rule those things out. When I say things, predominantly what we're getting are lights at high altitude, predominately. On 15 of the tours, we've seen fully structured craft like two times were big discs, six times were big triangles, two times were big boomerang shapes, one time was a big teardrop shape, one time with big diamond and three times we had big round spheres like ball shape. and two times your classic UFO disk. And like I said, six times big triangles. Okay but sometimes those have been three inches in diameter at arm's length so you make three inches in diameter at arms length make that a solid object take your hand down your time something hovering right over you and sometimes they've been maybe

1:00:17 quarter inch at arm's length. But if we're seeing full structure, and so we've had triangles up high that are half an inch in arms length than we've had triangles that I'd a professional pilot out one One night, who said it thought it was about four or five hundred feet above us. Two great big triangles that we thought were about three hundred feet in diameter only about five hundred feet above us. In other words right on top of us. So you know so but fifteen times we've seen structure craft and all the other times we're seeing lights at high altitude. Right that's what I've seen Occasionally we get great big lights and my clients go oh my god that's so close that's so close what shape is it? You know what shape? And I'll say that shape as Big Light because

1:00:56 It's not structure unless you can see structure but we get big light a lot, but we also get lights really high altitude but things that stop turn change direction wobble zigzag make right angle turns make u-turns. shoot off into space. Last night we had a couple that as they took off out of the atmosphere, they were getting dimmer and smaller you could tell that they suddenly were going three times faster like they were like faster faster faster faster faster and then they go shoo! And shoot out like you know like streak out. It's always a combination. We also get things that fly in formations not last night but night before last we had a triangle of three separate objects flying in a triangle formation and we also have that happen about Seven nights ago we had

1:01:40 Oh my god, we had a good triple. It was coming from the southeast straight towards us three separate objects you could see stars between them and they're kind of distance apart but perfect equilateral perfectly evenly spaced from each other also in the one in the front starts dropping to the left and the two behind us it's like one on the front two at back I guess they start turning and keeping that exact shape They do this U-turn so they come up from the southeast and they took off due east. And they just kind of did this big arcing u turn and took off due east holding that

1:02:18 And as they flew away from us, they then were starting to go up and out of the atmosphere because they were getting smaller dimmer and closer together all at the same time. Meaning they were holding that exact formation but it's a flew out away from us. They got not only dimmer tinier dimmer tinier but much closer together and they were like tiny, really close together before they finally completely disappeared. So they had made a big U-turn and then took off for space holding that exact formation it was just a perfect textbook triad you know? It's awesome! I think i had I had two clients with me that night, a couple who are making a documentary and they're going to be at Contact in the Desert interviewing and filming people with the documentary for Contact in the Desert. They're officially doing it in conjunction with Contact in the Desert whether it's a documentary just about that or a documentary about current ufology and they're just going to do a big part of that but if anyone out there is going to be at Contact or is a speaker there

1:03:20 You're going to meet these guys, this lovely couple. I think he's from Brazil and they were the ones that I had out there who got to see that so I'm sure – I am actually looking forward to seeing them at contact and being able to go, man you guys, that triangle we saw was so good." It wasn't a solid structure craft with three objects in formation when I say we've seen triangle structure crafts six times, that's solid, solid structure. Yeah so why do you think Sedona is such a hot spot outside of military presence? Do you think there are natural reasons why the environment might be such a hotbed for this activity? Oh gosh okay! Sedona has always been a hotspot for sightings There are places in the world that will be hotspots for like days You know like all of sudden they'll be a sighting wave A sighting wave can last days It can last weeks it can last months it can last years

1:04:11 Then, there are places on the planet that are true hotspots meaning there's like sighting waves therefore epics of time where it's like a thousand years reported or since you know since the beginning of recorded time. And so they're these places on the planet that are always known for having sightings all the time. Sedona is one of those and Northern Arizona is one of those and the leading theory as to why Sedona is this hot spot for epics of time is our vortexes which are these increased electromagnetic fields spiraling up from the ground and that's why. But Sedona and Northern Arizona in the Four Corners area is all a big hotspot as well as many places in the world, I could go on listing them but there are a lot of these places and they're all places that are known as places of power with large electromagnetic increased electromagnetic fields

1:05:05 And so just like those other places in the world with increased electromagnetic fields are hot spots for epics of time, so is Sedona. Then there's kind of two schools of thought – we don't really know why but they're two schools of thought – one is they're getting some kind of energy from it maybe I'm not a big proponent that but I can't say you know what do I know maybe and then the other is that they're using them as navigation beacons. They're like coming into Earth's atmosphere I had an engineering guy one night come out of my tour who said, what if their anti-gravity navigation system is just locking on to these electromagnetic fields? Their navigation system being electromagnetic is locking onto these electromagnetic fields and that's why when they come into Earth's atmosphere they come into the places of power and then maybe redirect from there. And I said man that makes perfect sense!

1:05:56 So I think that makes perfect sense. That's what they're doing. Yeah, that is intriguing for sure! I mean that pretty much does it for us Melinda this has been really insightful and I appreciate you sharing all this research with us are there any links or contact information you'd like to give people before we call it a wrap? The best way to get ahold of me to access all my information is to go to my website UFOsightingtours.com When you go to UFOsigntours.com, you scroll down and I got videos in my – there's a little brief bio down the page of ways and that bio has links in it and that will take you to all my stuff basically.

1:06:37 Have a great time at contact in the desert. Hopefully I can end up on one of those UFO tours eventually, but yeah They come to Sedona miss it You know There's a million reasons to come just don't have course my tour is being one of them right? But there's there's Sedona is it is a destination It's an amazing location. It's very spiritual. It's very healing very metaphysical Ross an incredible outdoor enthusiast hiking and dirt bike destination as well as an art community destination. So come to Sedona, come on my tour I'd love to take you. Right on it's not too far so i will do that! And anyone coming into contact in the desert make sure you come up to me and say hi.

1:07:19 night vision experiences there at the location on Friday and Saturday nights, and then Sunday night a paid one where we're going to go out to Giant Rock but you'll have goggle use the entire time. You won't have to... If the other ones are gonna have goggles for like five minutes at a time every 15 minutes you might give them for five minutes so you might have three or four five minutes segments in a three hour period you know blah blah but you'll get to look. But when we go out to Giant Rock on Sunday night that's a paid event, but you get... You'll have goggles usage the whole two hours that you view and will be out there for like 3 but 2 hours of viewing you'll get goggle usage the whole time. Yeah it's definitely worth doing I've looked into getting goggles myself but man they are so expensive! The ones i've seen are like $10,000 dollars so I can understand Oh no no no no Gen 3's

1:08:06 Right now, our ranging between about 3600 and 4600. Maybe it's more like 3800 and 4800 but they're good Gen 3s are in that range you can get souped up Gen 2 for like 2500 but I actually don't recommend if your serious about really doing this all the time But some people say those are pretty good. I'm not a big fan, but some people say they're good and and i hear that they're getting better so maybe ill be turned around on it. But I use Gen 3's. I get ones that would retail right now for about $3800. I admit if I have contact I get them for less than that but yeah thats what I use on the tour. Right on very cool! Alright well until then take care of yourself out there Thank you thanks again for having me

1:08:52 Boom people melinda leslie big thanks to her you know i like the episodes to be pretty wildly varied and this episode along with last week's of eve lorgan are a bit too similar but that's nobody's fault but mine this really was me trying to follow up on a lead from robert guffey. I thought we might get a little insight into these lesser-known companies that might be part of the agenda, maybe get deeper than what's commonly discussed on Coast to Coast and some of the surface programs that talk about this stuff all the time. But apparently the things i wanted to follow up on most were kind of old news but there were some insights about why these things occur and where pockets of the shadow state might be in carrying out this partnered agenda sometimes

1:09:38 I do get critics that say all i do is plug books but it's hard to get into the level of depth that I like to when a guest hasn't written a ton of material that I can comb through. Those details are always nice what sort of technology are people seeing how are they interacting with it, what imagery and messages are people being given? You know I would have liked to dig into those areas a little bit deeper as much as possible In the plus show we did talk largely about Melinda's own personal experience with both types of phenomenon as well as her penchant for contacting spirit guides and how those two things might intersect. It is always great to hear the details of personal accounts and try to flesh out some big picture so I do appreciate her going through that for us

1:10:27 I do worry parts of the episode were a bit too introductory for you guys. This isn't the first time you've heard of the Milabs experience and you're definitely not new to the ET abduction phenomenon But I hope we got beyond the basics enough to keep you interested. It's hard to get answers sometimes because nobody really knows much more than the basics on subjects of such high secrecy. I mean, Melinda is someone who researches this stuff intensely has interviewed tons of experiencers and she's given us all she knows surprise surprise humanoid beings taking people in the night it something that's hard to get a lot of details on

1:11:04 And again, I respect the work Melinda has done and her opinions but i don't think you can take any comments about UFO disclosure from Hillary Clinton seriously. I don't consider her to be on team people in any sense of the word and I would never suggest that getting her in office would do anything good for us especially not the revealing of secrets that are decades old and less of course they were stored on her private internet server. And you did get a taste of some other material in tomorrow's show with Gordon when I asked about disclosure or technological rollout indicators like the Trans-Pacific Partnership, i think that's really smart thinking on Gordon's part and we'll get deeper into that in the next show

1:11:47 Who is also nice to have melinda bring up cory goods name in this episode a lot of people have written me and ask why i haven't had him on especially when the inner earth is such a big part of his thing. I just don't know if i trust history we have a lot of people come out on the conspiracy stage and talk about their wild tales cory good donald marshall captain k andy besaglio, I don't really trust these guys. Their stories are too sensational, unverifiable and yeah sometimes they make for a good THC. I won't deny that that's part of our roster here but they're not usually my favorite episodes and i'm realizing i'm better off with in-depth researchers and authors that I respect and find to be logical and intelligent rather than sensational and over the top so

1:12:37 So that's where my head has been at in picking the guests for June. I think that is what worked so well for us in April and I think you'll be pretty happy. But Melinda's tours are another thing, I haven't been out with her personally but i've done the exact same thing twice and it is really interesting. I actually think it's less impressive than I expected but there's no doubt little points of light that do right angle turns move back and forth change speed in direction...but they're so small you can't tell if they're really just points of light or

1:13:13 some type of craft. I mean an airplane at night looks like a point of light, especially the higher up it is but something's clearly there maybe it's the Archon maintenance crew but the fact that they have near perfect sighting record tells you that its something thats always out there and that in itself is something to walk away pondering and treat yourself to experience if you get the chance why would ya not? But... That is it for me You're getting two more shows in the next five days. We had scheduling issues so I'm all backed up but, I'm hitting you with a flood of THC episodes so brace yourself until then your move corporate alien cooperators and abduction overseers your fucking move. Woke up this morning with light in my eye and then realized

1:14:08 It was dark outside. It was like coming down from the sky I don't know who or why Must be those strangers that come every night Whose saucers shaped light put people uptight Leave blue-green footprints that glow in the dark I hope they get home alright Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along? I won't do anything wrong Hey, Mr. Spaceman

1:15:17 Won't you please take me along the high side? Woke up this morning was feeling quite weird I had flies in my beard, my toothpaste was smeared. I opened my window they'd written my name Said, so long we'll see you again Hey Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along I won't do anything wrong Hey Mr. Spaceman

1:16:15 Won't you please take me along the higher side? Hey, Mr. Spaceman! Won't you please take me along I won't do anything wrong Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along the higher side?