Friday, 25 September 2015

Matthew Cross & Dr. Robert Friedman | The Golden Ratio, The Fibonacci Sequence, & You

A deep investigation into how sacred geometry and mathematical constants govern everything from Armenian pyramids to cellular hydration and elite athletic performance.

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About this episode

Matthew Cross and Dr. Robert Friedman reveal how the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci sequence serve as the foundational code for human longevity and peak performance. During a recent expedition to Armenia with Graham Hancock, Cross documented ancient megalithic sites like Karahunj and a newly discovered 100-foot buried pyramid near Yerevan that suggest a lost global understanding of sacred geometry. These mathematical constants are not merely aesthetic but are encoded into human DNA and physiological structures to regulate health.

Dr. Friedman identifies vital capacity as the primary predictor of lifespan, advocating for a Golden Breath technique based on Fibonacci intervals to maximize prana and oxygen extraction. The duo details how the 19th-century Prussian education model suppressed this integrative knowledge to favor linear thinking and worker obedience. Their research into biomimicry and the Hoshin process links the 40-30-30 macronutrient split of the Zone Diet and biphasic sleep cycles to the universal 1.618 ratio. They further attribute the Japanese Economic Miracle to W. Edwards Deming, whose quality control principles mirror these natural laws of efficiency.

Matthew Cross recounts sleeping under a hedge near the Glastonbury Tor to meet researcher John Michell, a pivotal moment in his journey toward decoding nature's secret nutrient. The guests challenge the modern definition of conspiracy, reclaiming its etymological roots as breathing together for a common purpose. Dr. Friedman provides practical health benchmarks, noting that optimal cellular hydration is achieved when urine color matches a light Chardonnay.


CHAPTER 01 / 16 Discussion

Introduction, New THC Theme Song and Armenia Tour Recap

Host Greg Carlwood introduces a new theme song for The Higherside Chats, noting it replaces the previous track due to copyright issues and listener feedback. He introduces guests Matthew Cross and Dr. Robert Friedman, recounting how he met Cross during a two-week Graham Hancock tour in Armenia. The segment sets the stage for a discussion on sacred geometry, the Fibonacci sequence, and the Golden Ratio.

greg carlwood· armenia· graham hancock· matthew cross· robert friedman· theme song

00:02 And it's prop and masters almost surely have a f*** This clearly may be something heavy And until you've thoroughly tested every last close justin Think you know the less you really do Where would we be without T.H.C.? Cause' We know they're lying to us, Just don't know- Where would we be without T.H.C? The highest high tech show called Wood Company

00:38 Whoa, whoa. What was that? Some of you must be thinking and that my friends is the new THC theme song I wrote the lyrics and I hired some musicians to perform it And I think it turned out pretty good now as a need of an update some people complain The original hurt their ears I get that. I also didn't have the rights to the background track, so this had to happen. It's also shorter which is better too in the long run. But that said here we go Ironside Chatters drinking a little drink smoking a little smoke and trying to find balance in this world of chaos today is the treat-of-treats because number one It's another two guest show and that alone is a reason to pop the champagne. But this show came to be because one of my guests, Matthew Cross was someone I met on the Armenia tour we had plenty of time to talk over the 2 weeks there and i thought Matthew was pretty insightful and well-spoken guy We had a good time tearing up the American education system in talking about sacred knowledge which is a bit of specialty of Matthew's and his friend and coauthor Dr Bob Friedman who also joined us

01:39 It took me the first two questions to really dial in the sound, but that's always a bit of struggle with 2 guests. I got it sorted out quick so don't worry and found their perspective pretty compelling We've all heard of the golden ratio and Fibonacci sequence at this point But there is more to it than just the formation of a sunflower or the composition of the Mona Lisa. There are applications you can use in your own life and in the era of biohacks and seeking human optimization, this might be the sweet spot so let's do the damn thing digging into the natural codes of health wealth and everything else with Matthew Cross and Dr Robert Friedman enjoy I got a new life You would hardly recognize me I'm so glad Now I'm amazing

CHAPTER 02 / 16 Discussion

Armenia Ancient Sites, Karahunj and Buried Pyramids

Matthew Cross describes his experience in Armenia, characterizing the country as an ancient land that feels like time travel. He highlights Karahunj, often called the Armenian Stonehenge, where the group witnessed the rising of Orion over standing stones at 3:00 AM. The guests also discuss a 100-foot tall buried pyramid located near the capital city of Yerevan that is currently being excavated.

armenia· karahunj· stonehenge· yerevan· graham hancock· pyramids

02:25 Don't care about you. Why do I bother when you're not in the club with me? Alright everybody, we are well aware the material world unfolds in accordance with particular patterns and sacred geometry. And we've talked about that underlying code that Program Universe runs on but today were going to get a sense of just how deep that rabbit hole goes How can we use this information in a practical way? How does it relate to areas like health and success? What exactly do those masons know that we don't

03:03 With me to explore these questions and more is my main man Matthew Cross, president of Leadership Alliance an international consulting firm where he works with Fortune 100 companies. He's been researching practical applications for the Golden Ratio since the man was only 12 years old! I was lucky enough to get to hang with Matthew over our two weeks in Armenia as he was part of a group with me on the Graham Hancock tour. He is also author of books like The Hocian Success Compass, The Millionaire's Map & Be Your Own President But that's not all folks, with us also on the line behind door number 2 is Dr. Robert Friedman who practiced nutritional and preventative medicine for 25 years before turning his attention to the application of the Golden Ratio to health and longevity. Together, the dynamic duo has authored The Golden Ratio Lifestyle Diet

03:48 The Divine Code of Da Vinci, Fibonacci, Einstein and You. And the book Matthew was kind enough to give me back in the old country, The Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Sequence, Golden Keys to Your Genius Health Wealth and Excellence Ladies and gentlemen two guys who do more before noon than I probably do all day Pellez welcome to THC Well thank you Thanks a million Greg. Thank you. Yeah anytime guys It's great to have you here Matthew Great to talk to you again now that the trip is over and You've had some time to think about it and let everything sink in how did you like Armenia man? What'd you think of that trip?

04:24 I thought Armenia was an absolute revelation, quite honestly. It's a place that most people have forgotten on the planet. I understand that at one time it was ten times larger than it is today and occupied ten times the footprint on earth as it does today. But I just found it to be such an intriguing ancient land. It really felt like time travel in some ways, going back in time We saw so many ancient monasteries There was so much history So much faith poured into these structures and the land

05:01 and then getting to see Karamush? Karahunj. The Armenian Stonehenge, which for me was really one of the major highlights of the entire journey when I step back and look at the photographs and just a feeling going there what we go there three in the morning right and then with Graham we have witnessed the rising of Orion over the Standing Stones Yeah, man. It was pretty amazing trip of a lifetime for sure and I really enjoyed being in a place that's just so off the radar and Graham kind of said it best Armenia is a country that really needs help And they have things of value and they need the spotlight shined on them for it and it was interesting to learn the history because Armenian people are basically pacifists which

05:48 I guess is what i would be but neighboring countries and invaders have definitely taken advantage of their passivity. But coming from America it was cool just to be in a place that has the flip side of our attitude, and the ancient sites though that's really where its at they could rewrite history books Yeah, and it's another... That's an interesting angle to pick up there Greg is that the people in Armenia are not aggressors. You know in a historical sense they've been the ones who in a sense have been attacked and occupied and invaded but they're coming from a different or really different peaceful place as what I noticed. I found the land and the structures of the land

06:28 the ancient history of the land and the people to be just most inspiring. And, of course, the pyramid we climbed... I mean think about it there's a pyramid within an hour of the capital city of Yerevan that's nearly 100 feet tall buried under tons of earth and vegetation right? And yet you know they're excavating at the top of this thing and figuring out hey wait a minute this is a pyramid! This isn't a hill! This is an actual four-sided pyramid Yeah, man. That was definitely my first pyramid that I've been on so bit of a milestone for me and Robert thanks for being here as well 25 years in preventative and nutritional medicine to me those are the two most important aspects in the aspects of health that we get very little education on in modern times And I'd say were in the peak of non nutritious food production but yes Let me ask how you've seen these two areas of your practice change over the last twenty five years

CHAPTER 03 / 16 Discussion

Nutritional Medicine, Golden Ratio as Healing Modality

Dr. Robert Friedman discusses his background in preventative and nutritional medicine since 1981, noting the historical lack of such education in medical schools. He explains how he and Matthew Cross transitioned to an energetic approach to health after realizing the Golden Ratio is encoded in human physiology and DNA. They argue that the human body is constructed along these proportions and that aligning lifestyle habits with this ratio serves as a healing modality.

robert friedman· nutritional medicine· monsanto· obamacare· dna· physiology

07:22 Well, I was on the forefront of this back in the late 70s. I got out of medical school in 81 and then did a residency for three more years but I always felt like a fish out of water because I was always oriented in this nutritional approach so it was a little difficult being in that environment and I was kind of a black sheep but I stuck to my guns Everything that I learned about nutritional medicine, I learned after I got out of medical school and residency because they certainly didn't use to teach it. And I think it's changing a little bit now but the field has burgeoned and its just grown to the point where the average person is able to access so many things in spite of the fact that we're being bombarded on the other side with

08:17 pesticides, herbicides chemtrails you name it electromagnetic bombardment. So it's a real battle going on and I don't know if we're gonna make it but we have a lot of tools at our disposal right now that we've never had before so I'm optimistic. Right on man yeah Medicine to me these days in the Western world is just reactionary. It's just reactive, it's run yourself into the ground and then when something screws up we'll just replace it like a car mechanic as best we can and that's a terrible approach to life and the human body I'd say. Yeah I totally agree and I think the group consciousness now has

09:03 change so much that the average person takes that point of view. So we're rapidly seeing a collapse of the status quo, everything from Obamacare to the rejection of pharmaceuticals and people's awareness of companies like Monsanto and the damage they're doing. There is a lot going on Matthew and I took a kind of different approach to it, kind of an energetic approach to alternative medicine when we discovered that the golden ratio which has been around forever obviously. But one day we both had the epiphanies that this stuff could be used in practical applications in preventive medicine. And so that's what we've done over the last decade-and-a-half is

10:01 turn our attention to something that's only been used by people like Leonardo da Vinci. It was in the great pyramids, actually all the pyramids have the golden ratio and a lot of Fibonacci sequence numbers used in it and we couldn't find it outside art and architecture really so we had an epiphany that wow this stuff could really be use as a healing modality and nobody had actually looked at it before when i realized through my training that the human body was constructed along golden ratio proportions that was my epiphany and i wondered how deep the rabbit hole went with just ratios of one bone to the next in fibonacci and gold ratio or did go deeper and so that was my

10:59 My approach in exploring this area over the last decade and a half we looked into physiology we looked into cholesterol ratios we look into sleep cycles breathing rates hydration all sorts of different areas and we were always. Looking through the lens of the golden ratio and when you do once you get that lands opened up to see the world in a totally different way not just how you might look at it beautiful flower be able to count. Number seven not she pedals are spiraling cactus is or innumerable

11:41 examples in the physical realm, in the plant realm. But but in the physical body it's mind-blowing and we even have discovered that down to the DNA level this golden ratio is present and its in the design of almost everywhere you look It's just that people's eyes have been closed to this And so part of our mission It's not just the alternative medicine approach, but once people actually grok the profundity and the ubiquity of The Golden Ratio. You don't just use it in your physical life in your healing but you can use it in whatever your avocation is or your vocation in life and so its quite profound once you learn the secret of The Golden Ratio

CHAPTER 04 / 16 Discussion

Ancient Wisdom, Great Pyramid and John Michell

Matthew Cross shares how his interest in sacred geometry began at age 12 through books by Peter Tompkins and John Michell provided by his mother. He recounts a personal anecdote about traveling to Glastonbury, England, at age 22 to meet John Michell, which resulted in him sleeping under a hedge near the Glastonbury Tor. He posits that all ancient structures are tied together by a foundational code involving the Golden Ratio.

matthew cross· john michell· glastonbury· peter tompkins· great pyramid· atlantis

12:34 Yeah, I think that's so interesting. It's so deep and you're right! Oftentimes when i hear about the golden ratio it's measuring the petals in a flower or looking at your phalanges and your fingers... And yeah that's pretty interesting but I can't really do a whole lot with that Exactly, exactly. So I think what you guys are doing is pretty awesome Matthew studying the Fibonacci sequence since the age of 12? Talk about things that are lacking from the modern education system How did this stuff get on your radar at such a young age? Well, I have very unusual parents It really all begins there If i look at people who made the biggest impact in my life Really it's the same story with all of us but its my mom and dad

13:20 In my case, my mom was extremely interested going way back when i was still in single digits in the true story of our history. So she was reading Eric Fondanigan and Charles Berlitz, and a whole host of authors when I was still in single digits. And was absolutely, is absolutely intrigued about our real origins... ...and the greater questions of our existence. When i was 9, 10 11 12, I was growing up learning and listening just intrigued by the research that she was doing So I was about age 12 going into 13 when my mom got a book on the secrets of the Great Pyramid by Peter Tompkins and a book called The New View Over Atlantis by John Michell. And those books, I started to read those books when i was twelve thirteen fourteen etcetera and they were just in absolute epiphany A very very bright light Into the ancient wisdom that's encoded in the structures

14:21 across the globe. All the ancient structures are tied together by the same code, the same sacred geometry, the same formula, the golden ratio playing a pivotal foundational element in their layout and design as Bob said you know the structure of the Great Pyramid in Giza Egypt and the layout of Stonehenge well what do they have in common? The Golden Ratio with jewelers precision by the way Greg And that intrigued me, okay as a boy. So I began a lifelong quest from that point forward i was absolutely intrigued and read every single thing I could get my hands on ended up my first trip to Europe in the early twenties was partially to meet John Michel the author of these books and ended up connecting with him in Glastonbury at night over dinner in a pub. I was in Europe for two weeks is it as a 22 year old man backpacking i was there for 2 weeks on this special ticket

15:16 I caught up with him in Glastonbury, England. We had dinner and the pub we were having dinner at closed at about 10 o'clock at night and I had a hostel that I was staying at, and i walked to the hospital about ten thirty at night that time was completely deserted and it was locked closed lights out completely dark its march sleeping under a hedge my question is professor and they close down the town so i had to sleep under a hedge in the shadow of glassonbury tour. In any event, for years and years the research just kept pointing to its appearance in artwork and in structure. And to a certain degree it echoed in the philosophy and principles of the ancient ones, the advanced civilization and peoples of times past.

CHAPTER 05 / 16 Discussion

Fibonacci Sequence, Athletic Performance and Peak Performance Prediction

Matthew Cross explains how the Fibonacci sequence can be used to predict and achieve peak athletic performance with high accuracy. He shares his personal success using these intervals to win 5K road races after years of second-place finishes. This discovery led to a 20-year collaboration with Dr. Friedman to apply these mathematical principles to broader areas of health and product formulation.

fibonacci sequence· athletic performance· 5k race· triathlons· human performance

16:09 It wasn't until the early 1990s that I came upon a book called Consistent Winning by a podiatrist in Texas who discovered that the Fibonacci sequence is literally the golden key, and the Golden Ratio is the golden key to human performance. Athletic performance, in other words when you train and rest according to the intervals dictated by the Fibonacci Sequence You can predict peak performance whether you're a weekend athlete or you're an Olympic caliber competitor. You can predict peak performance with extreme accuracy, let's say 85 to 90 percent accuracy. You can predict that on a certain day in the future if you train according to the Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio, you can predict that you'll turn in a fantastic performance when you need too

17:01 Well, I'm a runner. I'm an athlete and I've done triathlons. I run the Boston Marathon. I've been competing in races for many years and this was the first time that I came upon a practical application that would have immediate impact to me so I started training this way. Long story short after taking second place in handful of races over number of years, I ended up deploying this training system and winning my first 5k road race in Connecticut then I won again So that was a fascinating, you know door into hey wait a minute. This is not just an aesthetic It's not just aesthetically pleasing it's not just a way to bring more harmony into one's art or Architecture right or poetry? Hey Wait a minute this actually is also a key to human peak performance and it was around that time That Robert and I started to engage in some deep philosophical discussions about

17:58 How, you know what other ways might we practically engage, distill right and integrate this incredible principle for enlightenment? For health. For unity. For relationship how else could we distill this and share this with the world? And so those conversations started happening in the late 90's, and then that led us literally on what is now going on a 20 year odyssey of distilling and fine tuning and sharing our discoveries and research with the world. Which up to this point has occupied four books

18:35 and is now about to birth products. We're about to form, we've got formulations of nutritional products that are gonna be formulated according to the golden ratio so they actually perform a synergistic function in the body because their parts are put together with this unifying ratio. So that's a high level piece going all the way back to a book Actually two books that my mom gave me that were great inspirations and kind of started that ripple effect in my life Yeah, man the butterfly effect. Oh yeah, that's awesome I wonder if the practical application of these things isn't what's being paid tribute to in the art and architecture maybe that's something they knew but they just couldn't spell out as

CHAPTER 06 / 16 Discussion

Knowledge Suppression, Prussian Education Model and Linear Thinking

The guests discuss the historical suppression of the Golden Ratio by the Church and the modern education system. They argue that the U.S. public school system was modeled after the 19th-century Prussian military model to produce obedient workers rather than holistic thinkers. They suggest that teaching linear mathematics instead of integrative geometry "dumbs down" children to make them better soldiers and factory workers.

leonardo da vinci· suppression· prussian education· public schools· geometry

19:21 the same way da Vinci can put it into a painting or someone can coat it into a cathedral. I mean, that's a way to pay tribute to it but Robert talk to us a little bit about how the golden ratio does tie-in to health and diet? It must be pretty important for it to have become your focus and I'm wondering what people can do to actually incorporate that into their life. How can they make changes according to the golden ratio that could be helpful Well, let me just say one thing about the... One of the reasons speculatively that da Vinci and some of the other great artists and some of the people in the Egyptian realm or other builders of other pyramids was that in Da Vinci's time it may not have been safe. And also preceding him to actually speak about The Golden Ratio there was a lot

20:16 pressure from the church to suppress some of the sacred knowledge. And I think the golden ratio fell into this realm, and so what happened it was known among artists and architects but they... The way they passed it on was through their works, their beautiful artworks and architectural works that have lasted through centuries I think that's important today because in the schools, we'll get to the medical stuff in just a few minutes but just I didn't want to forget this point. Sure! That same mindset has been carried through the mindset of suppression and thats' the reason

21:02 Most people maybe have heard about the golden ratio but that's as far as it went because in the schools what should be one of the most prominent mathematical concepts is not taught and its not utilized. It may be like i say it maybe mentioned in passing but thats about it, But it's really not utilized and its suppressed for whatever reason. And it's hard to blame it on anyone person that's more of a guest at smart phone group mindset thats taken over although at some level there may be some individuals that actively are able to suppress it through through their

21:49 structure of educational curriculum. And so that may still be going on, it probably is but there is a renaissance going on and so many more people are interested in the golden ratio and when people see something with the golden ratio in it they're immediately struck by its beauty or there's just something special about it and that's why the interest has just blossomed in this one area. So Matthew you might want to have something to add to that point? I'll jump into this quickly and that's this, the reason The Golden Ratio lights us up Greg is

22:29 It's encoded within us again down to the dna even down to a more micro level that is in code it in the very structure and function of our entire body, every heartbeat all of us are having every moment of our lives is happening in golden ratio. The expansion contraction of our heart is literally tuned when we're healthy to the golden ratio. So it's in us at a very, very deep level and I would also suggest just to add a parallel thought to what Robert was just saying... The church for example actively went after those who spoke about and tried to keep the pagan beliefs or the earth-based beliefs alive right that was something that the church

23:10 Very very strongly persecuted over history. And so the golden ratio is an integrative principle That really speaks to again the power in our connection to one another being within So by definition these elements and as we know, you know people like Da Vinci of Michelangelo and all the rest They had to encode they had to hide in plain sight their understanding of these principles right? Mm-hmm. And so in many ways this is a really critical point that The wisdom of the ancients was encoded in a language that we don't have the eyes to see today. It's right in front of us, but it is encoded in the language of geometry and the language of mathematics from a qualitative standpoint

23:52 the quality and ratios and proportions of the universe end of life not so much the formulas in left brain linear quantitative approach which really many ways is only telling one side of story when you just focus on a linear road mathematics actually dumb people down dumb children down turns them off. to the more integrative holistic big picture holographic approach which is what the universe and life is all about. That's great because then that lines them up to basically think lockstep linearly Be good soldiers and take orders, you know the public school system in the West the United States for example is Predicated the actual foundation for schooling in our time in the United States really fairly recent experiments only 150 or so years old But it was based on a group of educators back in the 1800s who went over to Europe? Went to Prussia and observed that the Prussian military model would

24:52 would be a great model for the public school system of America to turn out good students who would take orders, not question authority fall lockstep into what the teacher was saying and then when they come out of school they'll transfer that right into the factory. And again That's literally the mindset we've all grown up in most of us anyway and so you know it's a fish is last discover water right the golden ratio is one of those it's like a it's like a key to get out of the prison of the mind, most people have forgotten how powerful they are how connected we all are and this is one of those beautiful brilliant simple keys.

CHAPTER 07 / 16 Discussion

Vital Capacity, Golden Breath and Prana

Dr. Robert Friedman identifies vital capacity—the amount of air exhaled after a full breath—as the primary predictor of longevity. He introduces the "Golden Breath" technique, which involves inhaling and exhaling in a ratio based on Fibonacci numbers, such as inhaling for a count of three and exhaling for five. This practice is claimed to increase oxygen extraction and "prana" or life energy.

vital capacity· longevity· prana· yoga· breathing exercises· fibonacci numbers

25:31 to that connection. Man, well said! Yeah obedient workers in the land of the free that's what they wanted and what they got so guys in your book you say that vital capacity which is the total amount air exhausted after a full breath is the number one predictor longevity now that scary to me because I probably have the lung capacity of a 90 year old man but Whoever's forte this is can take the wheel, but let me know how breath and longevity can be connected to this and what we can do to improve this vital capacity. Well Bob and I will tag team on this one so i'm going to let him just jump in and add some of my thoughts go for it Bob! As far as the vital capacity goes just reiterate again It's the amount of air that you can exhale after a full breath So basically its your lung capacity

26:22 And people might think that's a static volume but it is not, it can be changed just with some particular lung expansion exercises. The greater your vital capacity the longer you are going to live we have an interesting graph in the book that shows linear relationship between vital capacity and age And the vital capacity drops off with age just as a natural process of the aging process but that can be reversed. Through certain oh i guess you put him in the it's kind of a crossover between yoga exercise and athletic exercises and pulmonary function exercises but basically

27:09 There's an interesting golden ratio relationship with breathing in general that we discovered and what that is, is that if you... it's easiest to see this one little exercise I'll give you. We have a thing called the golden breath and what it is, its way to extract maximal oxygen and something called prana which is life energy The reason that's possible is because when you put inhalation and exhalation in a particular ratio, in this case the golden ratio. You're able to extract more of the life force and oxygen from a given breath. And the reason is that the golden ratio is the prime example

27:56 of the old expression, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. There's a lot of ways you can use the whole as greater than the sum of the parts but when you put it in golden ratio it's kind of like you tap into another realm when things are in perfect ratio or as they call it, the ancients called it divine proportion And in this case we wanted to put exhalation and inhalation in this divine proportion, and it's very simple the way you do that. You can pick two Fibonacci numbers... The Fibonacci numbers that are easiest to work with for the breath

28:38 Would be to inhale to three and exhale to five. And that's a very simplistic way to do it but extremely powerful, and when you do that just for even a few minutes You can feel an extraordinary sense of balance in your body blood pressure will come down You get a sense of calm and you can even do it when you're running or exercising although. You have to find kind of steady state because if your if your really going into an anaerobic realm, you need a one-to-one inhalation exhalation but

29:14 Anyway that's a simple way to incorporate the golden ratio into your physiology and it goes into the nervous system, it goes into the blood chemistry everything seems to balance out when you breathe in this simple ratio now there is lot of yoga exercises where they say oh. Breathe in to such a number breathe out to such an hour there's all sorts of different combinations that people have gotten benefit from nobody has ever really talked about using the golden ratio and fibonacci numbers for breathing exercises so it would be great if. People want experiment with that and if you have a good vital capacity deep breath and your able to hold your breath for longer you can go up the fibonacci sequence

30:04 And what I mean by that is the next Fibonacci numbers you could use would be 5 to 8, and then 8 to 13. You could just walk your way up the Fibonacci sequence as your breath capacity increases Basically I've just given there two ways i've just given one is just by increasing your total lung capacity how much air can you lungs hold their separate exercises for that but thats one way and the second way as my using the fibonacci or golden breath as we call it. And the importance of breath cannot be understated, it's so important to get our book we did a process that matthews an expert at called the ocean

30:53 Compass and what that is it's a way to prioritize different different things to get the relative value towards one another answer what we did we took all of the. the in the major inputs into health that we could think of and we tried to prioritize them we had exercise we had nutrition we had sleep, we have water we had breathing and breathing came up to be the number one thing anybody could do to improve their health longevity so This air and breathing thing is so important, and most people are under-breathers. And just by correcting that one thing you could have everything else fall into line just by getting that one priority going in your favor. I'll let Matthew chime in now about his experiences with breathing

CHAPTER 08 / 16 Discussion

Health Drivers, Strategic Sequencing and Corporate Tools

Matthew Cross explains that while most people focus on diet and exercise, their research ranks breathing as the number one driver of health, followed by hydration and sleep. He notes that their book, "Nature's Secret Nutrient," sequences these drivers using the Hoshin process, a strategic planning system used by corporations like Toyota. They argue that the Golden Ratio provides a "booster shot" to standard health practices.

toyota· health drivers· nutrition· exercise· oxygen· hoshin process

31:48 Yeah, and I'll add this thought to it as well because it's stunningly fascinating and simple and practical at the same time. Because when Bob and I put the essential drivers of health performance longevity you know most people in our time especially in the West think about fundamentally two factors when we think about health We think about exercise and we think about diet. Those are the two areas that most people spend the most time thinking about, stressing about, spending the most money on whether it's gyms or exercise equipment etc., and trying to get their diet right but when Robert and I actually sequence these elements low and behold as he said air breathing came out is the number one foundational driver really the foundation of the pyramid

32:38 Because see you can't you can't out diet. You can't no matter how good your diet is if you're not breathing fully and deeply every breath Your not going to metabolize and digest and process and utilize and make the most of the food you eat yet for most of us It's unconscious we're on autopilot right unless you're a martial artist unless you're in the yoga you breathe on autopilot most people take it for granted and most peoples capacity is going down overtime we spend more time doing less sitting, add hunching our back and crouching over a computer or smartphone and such were compressing our lungs.

33:18 but breathing is the absolute foundation, it's the number one fuel or food for a human being or any life form. Mammals at least and so when we did the process and breathing came out number one and then to Bob's point we started to realize that you know when you bring the golden ratio, when you bring it into alignment, when you surface its functioning in any process, you automatically tune that process towards optimal. So for example when you breathe in right to the count of say five and then you exhale to the count of eight, you got a ratio approximately 1.6 one two one point six right to the other and what that means is is that your increasing the dwell time the dwell time of the oxygen when you take in

34:11 You know the shorter exhale and then you get the shorter inhale that is so you breathe into the count of five and then you exhale longer to the count of eight, your maximizing the dwell time of oxygen. Well even in athletic performance this is one of the reasons again how I won my first race I tuned into the breathing in the last four minutes of the race, especially this fellow who had beaten me in the past. I'd taken second place by the way in seven different races and I'm in my race and I'm in a lead and it's 5k and about four minutes from the finish line. is a competitor who has beaten me in the past and i just consciously remembered to my breathing and i literally, i breathed in shorter and exhale longer even at full out running.

35:00 And i ended up pulling away from the fellow and winning the race my first race nice. The key point here is that all of us however our athletes in one dimension or another we all want to perform at our best we all want to live in the present and extract and give them most of this gift of life that were on down with And so oxygen and the vital life force, as Bob said the prana. The ancients understood that the air is not just chemically combined you know O2 and all these other factors no it's imbued with lifeforce right? With prana! So when we increase both a quality and quantity of every breath We're going to increase enhance deepen and lengthen

35:46 the quality and quantity of our lives and so that was the base of the pyramid but shocking thing was in a while round out with this and throw the ball to bob or to you greg with a question, the amazing thing is that when we sequence for example the first six drivers. Of health performance longevity oxygen are breathing came out as number one but diet or nutrition was number four and exercise was number six. Wow! In other words, you have to take care of the foundation the roots of the tree if you ever hope to have a bountiful harvest of the fruit up the tree You see? Yeah And so that combined... Our book is really the first book in history on two accounts One it distills from

36:34 a leading-edge medical doctor's perspective and a Fortune 100 life strategist perspective, it distills these core drivers of health performance and longevity into a sequence. A critical cross reinforcing one through ten sequence. In fact the chapters in our book are sequenced, chapters 1 through 10 according to this strategic process that's guiding the best companies like Toyota on the planet. It is their secret recipe, their secret weapon strategic plan for success so no one has ever done that before in the field of human health and longevity but critically the entire book is infused with a golden ratio and the Fibonacci sequence they are really in a sense two sides of the same golden coin

37:20 This is the first time in history that human health and performance longevity has had this massive booster shot, this incredible amplifying factor of the golden ratio applied to things as simple and profound as how we breathe, to actually how you best combine the macronutrients of carbs protein and fat in one's diet. And how you can best exercise and so on... So that you can support maximum and optimum quality and quantity of life Boom. Yeah, man taking the tools of the mega corporations and giving them to the people that's a beautiful thing I Love well put Rick well And you know saying that breath is number one? I'm curious where we're sleep falls into play here because that's one of the things that most people struggle with I mean in this dog-eat-dog nine-to-five reality Most people are sleep deprived but maybe that's one thing they could do without so much

CHAPTER 09 / 16 Discussion

Biphasic Sleep, Nine-Hour Cycles and Blue Light Interference

Dr. Friedman discusses the importance of sleep, noting that humans historically followed a biphasic sleep cycle before the advent of electric light. He suggests that a nine-hour sleep period aligns with the Golden Ratio of a 24-hour day. The discussion covers how modern electromagnetic bombardment and blue light from screens have disrupted natural sleep patterns, leading to chronic health issues.

sleep cycle· biphasic sleep· blue light· circadian rhythm· melatonin· hydration

38:23 changing of their daily patterns, they could possibly get more sleep. Where is that on your scale of importance and how can we actually improve the sleep cycle to get it more in that golden ratio optimization area? Take it away Bob! Let me just say first that Matthew mentioned this plus factor The name of the book is nature's secret nutrient and that's what we dubbed this plus factor or the secret advantage that you get when you incorporate the golden ratio and fibonacci sequence into various aspects of your life so it is

39:06 Natural that's why we call it nature's and it is secret because nobody knows about it. And it isn't actual nutrient although on the energetic realm, and it doesn't cost anything except the knowledge of it once you get that it doesn't cost anything and there are zero calories and you can apply it in so many areas of your life. So I wanted to throw that out there we neglected to mention the name of the book that encompasses this whole process and program. He's good, he's really really good I mean...I want this! Yeah, anyway so regarding sleep it is so highly misunderstood the way modern man has developed and skewed the sleep cycle

40:01 Most people probably you know what struggle to get six seven hours a night but when you apply the principle of the golden ratio to it come up with kind of an astounding number and the golden cut in a twenty four hour day would be see the golden ratio is this point. Six one eight two one or Mathematically you could use 1.61821 it's kinda tricky cuz it such a special number but anyway around two-thirds or say .6 more like three fifths of the 24 hour period would give you somewhere around nine hours of sleep and that just sounds like totally impractical an unbelievable for anybody in this day age to get nine hours, but when you look at

40:55 In a historical realm, it makes more sense. And even as far back as the 1800s and previous to that humanity went by what was known as a biphasic sleep cycle and by that I mean they would have two sleep periods maybe they would go to sleep for say five hours and then they would wake up in the middle of the night Get up and read a book pray meditate whatever until i got sleepy again after about an hour then they would go down to get for another. Four hours or so so they were getting around nine hours of sleep that seems to be the default programmed brain chip that we have is this by physics sleep cycle but with the advent of electric light

41:51 that went by the wayside because people started staying up later and then they would try and sleep through in one straight shot and invite doing that. I'm a probably work for awhile where they could sleep maybe eight hours some people if you're lucky could sleep nine but then with tvs and electric, More like 24 seven electric lights and wifi in all of this a degenerated further to where even if you try to get one shot. Of sleep you were lucky if you able to get five six maybe seven hours if your lucky that's where we're at today with the constant bombardment blue light coming from

42:34 various sources, computers and the electromagnetic bombardment that we get all the time. People's sleep cycles are totally thrown off but the sleep ended up being the number two driver and that comes after breathing... Actually just to jump in Bob number three I'm sorry yeah number three so That's how important it is and if your sleep is off everything downstream and upstream will be off so its important to get the priorities right the right amount of amount of sleep. And that's the quantity in the quality of sleep so everything that you do with a golden ratio you have to look at quantity and quality so

43:26 With breathing we had the vital capacity how much air can you take in and then the quality what is the ratio of inhalation to exhalations so you try it, you trying ratio those and then with sleep you train get a certain amount of sleepy trying go for nine hours. And then you want to buy automatically doing that since there's only twenty four hours in a day that gives you nine to fifteen ratio it just happens to be the golden ratio so he can quantity and quality just by doing that. So, What you get your sleep right you feel so much better and everybody knows that intuitively but they have to make a special effort to get there and you can do that with adding in afternoon siesta is her naps, try and make up the deficit some people doing on the weekend i sleep in and do whatever they can't forget it by making a conscious effort to. Do that the rewards are just unspeakable end

CHAPTER 10 / 16 Discussion

Hydration Ratios, Urine Color and Cellular Health

The guests detail hydration as the second most important health driver, noting that the ratio of intracellular to extracellular water in the body should ideally be 60/40. Matthew Cross provides a practical tip for monitoring hydration by checking urine color, which he states should be no darker than a "light Chardonnay." They link chronic dehydration to accelerated aging and decreased athletic performance.

hydration· intracellular· extracellular· chardonnay· skin health· water intake

44:29 Everybody should do that. I neglected to mention the number two driver, I got so excited about sleep that...I'm going to let Matthew say a few words about the number 2 driver which is water. Yes well i'll just jump in and take that because The bottom line again is that each of these drivers is vitally important. They're all vitally important, so it's not about just zeroing in on one or two or three they cross reinforce one another they really make an elegant cross reinforcing system and when you work on all these parts in concert but really visualizing a pyramid You really want to have a strong base And when you especially strengthen the base, the base is breathing

45:16 The base is about being conscious with your breath and it's about, you know, a few times a day perhaps remembering to actually breathe with the golden ratio where you actually inhale for example to the count of five and exhale to the count of eight. Now you might hold... You might pause for a second or throw another Fibonacci number maybe want to pause for two or three seconds so you can inhale to five and then you might pause for two or three, and then exhale to eight. Well that's a very simple example of a golden breath. That's driver one. Driver two is hydration and water. And what Bob and I...

45:55 As we went through this, one of our key questions was how long can people go without these vital nutrients? You can only last X number of minutes although the world record breath hold is over 23 minutes where someone actually held their breath for 23 minutes underwater and survived healthy to talk about it. Most of us were lucky if we could go a few minutes. Water goes X number of days at the most so hydration is number two And most of us are under hydrated, most of us are simply not drinking enough water and we think about...we get lost or confused in the quantity. In trying to really think about input

46:35 X number of cups per pound of body weight or whatever, you know height and all the rest and Simply put the body itself again when it's tuned has a golden ratio of water Actually, it's a ratio of inside the cells and outside the cell so it's kind of extracellular and intracellular The ratio of the water one to the other is approximately six 60-40, 60 to 40 percent. So in 60-40 is another way to look at the golden ratio 62 38 more exactly but 60-40 if we're going to be general and the point is to maintain that ratio and maintain healthy hydration right? We simply need to really be tuned into their output

47:18 The output so basically what that means is you know the ones urine color should never get darker than a light Chardonnay Ideally, it's between clear and a light chardonnay unless you're drinking a lot of vegetable juices before your eating a lot of you know A lot of beets and that sort of thing if the color gets darker than a light chardonnay You're under hydrated. And an athlete knows that every percentage point in that we drop in hydration compromises performance, stresses the organs in the system. So water within taking enough water internally and hydrating our largest organ our skin without those two elements are absolutely vital as driver number 2 right? And then that sets the stage for of course driver 3 sleep

48:05 And as Bob said, that is the hidden keystone factor for just about everyone in our culture and in our time. Everyone is struggling with getting enough sleep. Everyone thinks they can compromise it and still come out okay. The news is that when you compromise your sleep you don't get to make it up And by definition, if you're continuously chronically underslept you're shortening your life and you are also setting yourself up with much higher probability of a massive traumatic effect downstream. Some people it might be heart attack some people might be stroke some people might be the manifestation of chronic disease right? But the bottom line is sleep is absolutely vital

48:42 for the foundation of health and longevity. And if you're underslept, you don't get to fully process and take advantage of driver number four which is nutrition And I'll throw the ball to Bob, Greg unless you've got a follow up question around Driver 4 nutrition. Well i just wanted to say this is really intriguing because we talk about how disconnected we are from nature and it's very kind of an abstract concept yeah we see that we live in these concrete cities where aren't really engaged with our natural environment that the earth has provided but its also seems kinda tough to be like okay well how do we fix that? This is pretty clear

CHAPTER 11 / 16 Discussion

Biomimicry, Vitruvian Man and Aging Reversal

Dr. Friedman introduces the concept of biomimicry, which involves copying nature's successful evolutionary patterns to improve human health. He references Leonardo da Vinci’s "Vitruvian Man" as the epitome of a Golden Ratio human being, possessing approximately 62% body water. The guests argue that by maintaining these ratios, individuals can effectively slow or reverse aspects of the aging process.

biomimicry· leonardo da vinci· vitruvian man· aging· body water

49:22 If you don't know what to do, look at how nature expresses itself and copy that in as many ways as you can. And keep stacking it up whether it's sleep nutrition happiness the amount of food in your stomach the amount of water your body is getting I think it's super interesting and I think it's a really smart way to go about optimal health in a world where we have so much misinformation and competing Motivations from people who are telling us about our health i think this is a good fundamental thing to start with you guys you guys nailed it what we did isn't just in and out of the bottle we didn't. We really aimed on double s right so smart and simple or as they let you know if you're we've often heard said kiss

50:04 But I always drop the last S because keep it simple stupid is the most ridiculous and insulting approach. Okay, no that doesn't make anyone feel good or lift them So we just dropped the last s and call it keep it simple because when it's simple its doable It's powerful. It's easy The great thing about the golden ratio in the Fibonacci sequence This is a thing on I continuously hammer home Is that it is simple? it is a child can understand and apply these basic core principles as Again, they're all around us once you have the eyes to see. Once you start to learn the knowledge and apply it It's an infinitely fascinating area of exploration And it connects ties integrates everything in the universe All the sciences all the principles and philosophies it unifies them

50:52 And they all elevate when you start to understand through the golden ratio how connected and vibrantly alive every single element of life and matter in structure is. Circling all the way back to this, again a simplicity... So many people are so focused on counting calories, for example around diet and nutrition which is driver four that we surfaced in the process. A logical question is how can you bring the golden ratio into how you eat every day and nutrition? I'm happy to throw the ball to you, Bob on this one because this is a real area of Bob's expertise. Again the simplicity but also the practicality and power of just looking at your diet through different lens in his case the golden ratio. Yeah i just want to commend Greg for his insight

51:44 And what you said in your last comment, what that's called is biomimicry. And biomimicry is when you just look at nature and see something that's working extraordinarily well that has been developed through evolution over eons and you try to bring those principles and concepts into Something that you're trying to do now no matter what field you working in so if you bring biometric re into health and wellness by bringing the golden ratio when thats biomimicry at its finest and so thats what this is all about just a couple thing couple points for me get into nutrition little bit but on hydration many people don't realize but

52:34 Twenty five year old healthy male would have around sixty two percent. Body water percentage wise and what happens with ages that goes down we basically aging is basically a disease of dehydration you could describe it like that if you wanted to end yeah thats why when u see older people, Their skin is all shriveled up, they've lost so much hydration in the skin. But the same process is going on throughout the whole body their skeletal structure has shrunk and even though the bones are only 10% water at best but even with loss of hydration in the bones even though there's obviously minerals involved

53:24 You can see it in a person's posture, but all the internal organs as well lose hydration. And then it goes down to the cellular level that Matthew was mentioning the intracellular and extracellular should be in golden ratio with more towards the intracellular. When you look at a baby they're around 90% and then that kind of re-equilibrates with age and by the time you're 25, you're at the golden ratio. And if you look at Leonardo da Vinci's famous painting or drawing of The Vitruvian Man his physique looks extraordinary he just has a perfect physique no fat on him perfect posture He just has the epitome of health in his appearance. Good looking dude! Yeah

54:20 So that is a person who has 62% body water. And da Vinci, see he hid all these golden ratios in his drawing. The stuff that we're writing about in this book you can't see all the internal things like DNA but externally that drawing has the epitome of a golden ratio human being and so that's what were trying to get people back too everybody has their own golden ratio that they were at when they were 25 years old And that's when all their hormones and all their neurotransmitters and everything was functioning perfectly, and just humming in golden ratio.

CHAPTER 12 / 16 Discussion

Zone Diet, Macronutrient Ratios and Paleolithic Nutrition

The discussion turns to nutrition, where Dr. Friedman endorses the Zone Diet's 40-30-30 ratio of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. He explains that combining the protein and fat percentages results in a 60/40 split, which closely approximates the Golden Ratio. He describes this as the "true" Paleolithic diet, supported by Harvard research, and claims it can rebalance chronic disease processes.

zone diet· macronutrients· protein· fat· carbohydrates· harvard research

55:09 all just things that you go through, bad lifestyle habits that people pick up. The aging process sets in some people more quickly than others and so the result is what you see in the mirror and so our goal is to help people turn that around. We have a whole chapter on aging in there and how you can incorporate these, some of these golden ratio techniques into actually reverse the aging process One of the main ones is the nutritional approach. We didn't want to reinvent the wheel, all we had to do was look at a nutritional approach that was probably the most successful and rational one out there of all the hundreds books on diet and nutrition that are out there, the one that shines and has stood the test of time over

56:01 20 years is the zone everybody's probably heard of the zone and yeah does this own has stood the test of time and it's therefore so-called 40 3030 ratio. 40% carbs 30% protein in thirty percent fat What we discovered, if you...we did a little mathematical trick where if you rearrange the 40-30-30 and make it add the 30 and 30 of the protein in fat that comes up to 60. You end with a 40-60 or very close to the golden ratio And alot of things when we speak at the golden ratio so there may be some golden ratio Nazis out there that say well

56:46 0.618, well for practical purposes and for speaking about it we can, and for examples were going to use the 60-40 and that's actually a good Fibonacci ratio anyway so for practical purposes that works and the zone is a moderate it's not up a moderate diet it's not up it's not a high-carb diet this not a low carb diet it's not a high fat diets it's not a low fat diet neither a high protein or low protein it's a perfectly balanced diet probably ninety five percent of people would do well on and it was it was patterned after the so called paleolithic

57:30 people, not patterned after the Paleolithic paleo diets that you see around now that are a little bit different. But the original paleo diet was the zone diet and thats been substantiated by Harvard research and we have those listed in our bibliography, in our book. We go into further detail on it but it is the true paleo diet and its so simple because its a moderate diet of moderation you won't get in trouble doing it, you won't pass out. It'll rebalance almost any chronic disease process towards the golden ratio again." So that is the diet that we like to use and

58:17 Everybody has their own opinion on diet and some say, oh this is the zone. That's just a low carb diet or some people say it's high carb diet whatever but it seems to work and its been probably one of the more rigorously tested diets and it stands the test of time. So that's our simple approach to diet as far as we go today, but there is a lot more in the book that describes that and again, the ultimate nutrient is nature secret nutrient and when you eat in The Zone, The Zone Ratio, 40-30-30, you get that plus factor, you get that indescribable

59:02 nutrient, nature's secret nutrient which takes you above and beyond what you're going to get through any other combination of foods that you could come up with. That is awesome man! So fascinating and we are really chugging along here were at the halfway point now Matthew I'm curious how some of these things tie into the amount of success an individual will have in their personal lives. It's something I know you've written about and as conspiracy people we have a tendency to see all the mega corporations, ultra-rich running amok and all the corruption seems so ingrained and beyond fixing that it can result in a victim mentality, lack of motivation and a scapegoat for why we don't have success in our lives but what can we do to fix it man?

CHAPTER 13 / 16 Discussion

Personal Transformation, Conspiracy Etymology and W. Edwards Deming

Matthew Cross discusses the etymology of "conspiracy" as "breathing together" and advocates for a "conspiracy of hope." He argues that personal transformation is the foundation for societal change and references Thomas Jefferson’s "pursuit of happiness" as a scientific necessity for health. He introduces Dr. W. Edwards Deming as a pivotal figure in his philosophy of quality and success.

conspiracy· thomas jefferson· w. edwards deming· happiness· personal power

59:48 I'll throw one perspective on that and then throw the ball back to Bob. From my perspective, Greg, since from a young age I've always been really interested in going to the root cause. You want to talk about how to improve and transform your life you have got to go through the root driving factors right? So even going to the very root of the word conspiracy Most people and it's that the word has been hijacked to a large degree because by definition conspiracy simply means Khan means together and Spiracy spirit so together in spirits is what conspiracy means well guess what we can have a conspiracy of hope a conspiracy of truth a conspiracy of transformation

1:00:36 But the word has actually been hijacked only in its negative connotation. So how do you join a conspiracy? How do you start a conspiracy? How to be part of a conspiracy, to elevate and reclaim restore your power? Well one other ways is to realign yourself It's not something you have to stress a lot and struggle a lot at. You can simply step back and realign yourself with natural principles of order, balance, harmony and abundance which the universe is, which of course the golden ratio represents elegantly and simply. So learning again is the only strategic advantage any of us has in any age or culture.

1:01:19 learning the right stuff, the good stuff. Learning about reclaiming one's power and putting it into practice When we start to do that and start that chain reaction then we can start to reclaim our individual power because it all starts from within We've been to a certain degree brainwashed that others are going to save us The latest candidate at whatever office is going to be our savior And you know, we all know in our heart of hearts It's backwards That we have to reclaim what Lincoln said years ago, we're meant to be a government of the people by the people for the people. Well the first term there is of the people and that's you and me so we need to reclaim that consciously. The work that Bob and I are doing with The Golden Ratio is one very strong element in that regard because if you don't have your health and you're not making that front-and-center priority

1:02:16 Then everything else in your life is compromised the quality of your thinking, your energy, your commitment tenacity perseverance ability to not only take care of yourself but also be a beacon and be an inspiration right make a difference in the world that's also compromised. So that's a real central focus of the work we're doing together you know what I'm doing in the corporate world world has multiple facets, but one of its core anchors is the restoration of health physically, spiritually, emotionally and physically from a standpoint of freedom. Those are real core elements in my corporate workshops and teachings with the Fortune 500 and bringing to bear processes like

1:02:59 the golden ratio in nature secret nutrient in our latest book and in the workings of bringing these principles back to life to conscious awareness and practice. The Hoshin process, which is the foundation for my work with the Fortune 500, which is essentially the strategic planning system. The inner compass guidance system that the Japanese created inspired by the teachings of the man behind what I submit as the greatest business success story ever told. This gentleman who was responsible for quality and a worldwide strategy for product and service

1:03:37 I think it is a very important issue. You name it, this gentleman's work over the last six decades which continues to affect every company and organization on the planet to this day is a literal gold mine for increasing the value of the work you do in your life at any scale. Whether you're just starting out high school or whether you're CEO or leading entrepreneur when you bring art and science of quality

1:04:13 Principles by the way a ten year old can understand and integrate apply you automatically reclaim your power greg is probably where this all coming back to that transformation of our culture transformation society transformation of the world must begin with transformation of individual. And we have to know, we have to truly know and put the faith into practice that that power resides within each and every one of us. It really starts fundamentally from my perspective with realizing that were all blessed with a purpose and passion and meaning and destiny for being alive in this time

1:04:51 So when we start to gravitate and start to invite and learn and practice these sorts of principles We start to reawaken our unique gift and turn up the light of our unique power To really make a difference and make the most of this incredibly precious gift that sometimes. We take for granted called our lives Well said, man. I really did like your talk on quality. I did get to see that and this individual that you referenced here is Dr W Edward Deming Yes And we should spend just a minute on this Tell people why he is so influential and how it ties into Japan

CHAPTER 14 / 16 Discussion

W. Edwards Deming, Japanese Economic Miracle and Quality Science

Matthew Cross tells the story of Dr. W. Edwards Deming, an American statistician who helped rebuild Japan's economy after World War II. Deming's teachings on quality control led to the "Japanese Economic Miracle," eventually resulting in the creation of the prestigious Deming Prize in Japan. Cross notes that Deming remained largely unknown in the U.S. until an NBC documentary in 1980 titled "If Japan Can, Why Can't We?"

w. edwards deming· japan· deming prize· nbc news· manufacturing· quality control

1:05:31 Yes, yes. I'm on an accelerated track so next year one of my new books that's coming out is called The Greatest Business Success Story Never Told and How You Can Profit From It For your listeners, we'll let them all in on the secret because Deming is not in the title of the book on purpose. Here's a story that one in 10,000 might have an inkling of this gentleman's name but they won't necessarily know the impact so I'll put it as a thumbnail. Dr. W Edwards Deming was an American statistician who was born in 1900 at the turn of the century and he became a statistician, he was a systems expert not IT systems but understanding that everything we do in life is a series of steps, a system that leads to an outcome and the more we understand bird's eye view, the system were engaged in whether it's the system of our day

1:06:31 Right beginning middle and end or the system of a company, the delivery of product service when we understand that system continuously towards perfect. We can elevate quality at the output ok deming goes deming was involved in united states victory in world war two he's like this forest gump in history He wrote and taught the quality standards that largely determined the quality of everything the United States produced during the war. The quality of our ammunition, guns tanks planes, the whole nine yards was directly benefited from Deming's work such that everything we produced during the war exhibited made in Japan quality we know today."

1:07:13 Five years after the war ended in 1950, Dr. Deming was over in Japan to help with the census and at that point Japan had been bombed to the ground as we know it. We dropped two atom bombs on them and they were absolutely desolate. They were spiritually bankrupted, industrially bankrupt and just a defeated nation with nowhere to go but up. They were starving in the streets. It's hard to imagine but at that point Japan was literally destroyed as a country MacArthur is over there with the United States occupying forces and Deming's over there to help with the census. Fundamentally, the suggestion was given by Dr. Deming, why don't you share what we were doing during the war in America with Japanese industry? To help them rebuild their war shattered economy

1:07:55 Long story short, starting in 1950 Deming lectured. Within two years he had reached 80% of the leaders of Japan's remnants of industry and made a famous prediction in 1950. He said to the Japanese, ìLook if you will learn the essential principles and techniques I will teach you, I predict within five years that you'll be an exporting nationî. See, at that time Japan was importing everything. Food, fuel materials, the works. No one wanted anything made in Japan for those of us who remember Back to the Future with Doc and Marty McFly you know made in Japan was an international joke The toys and equipment that would break quickly and so forth no reputation whatsoever for quality quite the reverse Deming predicted the Japanese if you learn what I'm going to teach you put it into practice by 1955 you'll turn the tide

1:08:46 They put their head down and they beat the prediction by a year. In 1954, the balance of trade swung and it began a worldwide tidal wave of quality with Japan at the lead. That's why I call Dr Deming the Einstein of quality and success and I'm coming to why I submit he is the architect of the greatest business success story in history never told. The Japanese kept their head down and continuously improved everything they built and made. In the 1970s, they started to surpass America and American industry for General Motors, you know our electronic industry started to sink by the head rapidly because everyone wanted what the Japanese were making. Higher quality products and goods that performed more predictably and longer and kept their value longer and fundamentally eventually ended up costing less so Americans started to cry for protection from evil Japanese who had been taught by an American in fact the highest award you can win in Japan

1:09:45 Even today in 2015 going back to 1951 is called the Deming prize and it's awarded amidst great fanfare like the Oscars in the United States every year. It's televised, and it's considered the Nobel Prize of quality and success in Japan Imagine in the United States if our highest award for business success was called the Ishikawa Prize and it was named after a Japanese citizen, I think there would be a story there. So long story short in 1980, a friend and colleague of mine named Claire Crawford Mason who is NBC News producer and reporter was charged with figuring out why is American industry sinking by their head?

1:10:22 So she started to investigate. She interviewed the Japanese heads of companies and they all said, well it's Dr Deming! And she said doctor who? They said no not Doctor Who...Doctor Deming!! And she found out that he was 80 years old still practicing in his basement office 20 minutes from the White House and No one in the Carter administration had ever heard of this guy Okay, so she went to interview him and she figured you know It's worth at least stopping by and she goes into his basement office, Dr. Deming is 80 years old and he's muttering about how America is committing economic suicide and we've got to get quality back into America or our children are going to wake up on a land where their standard of living is lower than their parents' and so forth. And Claire thought well God this guy is really eccentric and has got a chip on his shoulder

1:11:06 Then he pulled out the headlines from the 1960s showing Emperor Hirohito awarding him the highest award you can award a non-Japanese born citizen for basically saving the Japanese economy and being responsible for the Japanese economic miracle. There might be a story here, but she put him on NBC News in what is now called in history the second most impactful documentary in history. Dr. Deming was reintroduced to the world at age 80 in 10 minutes on this special It was called if Japan can why can't we it's broadcast in June of 1980 on NBC and that? Reintroduce the science and art of quality To the world or talking all the service companies the manufacturing companies automotive power plants Military, we're talking every sphere of life on planet Earth now

1:11:55 Okay, and from that point forward quality became an imperative strategic elements in every single business on the planet you had quality not only survive your thrived you took the market. And so we know businesses and again doesn't matter if it's a service business an entrepreneur mom and pop or toyota, yes sink swim or fly depending on the quality of god your product your service and its delivery and so i'm told trillions of dollars in value and growing have resulted from the humble teachings of this unknown American, Dr. W Edwards Deming So he's the foundation for the work that I do on the corporate side and the retreats that I lead And of course Ho Shin which is the strategic planning system that Dr. Deming inspired is a methodology for basically setting the stage for highest quality in one's life

1:12:49 in one's business and in one's industry, and parallel. And I'll end with this it also sets the elements in place the cornerstones in place to invite the harmony and alignment of The Golden Ratio into ones business and life and practice. Man! I think that is a amazing story. I'm glad you told because today everybody thinks about the culture of Japan as being strives for excellence. All of our electronics are Japanese, everything I'm looking at on my desk here is Japanese and we take that for granted but there's a reason for that you know? There is a methodology that got them there and I think it's definitely important that everybody thinks about their own passion because I doubt its working in the cubicle AT&T for 40 years. I doubt it being the best burger flipper but if you take your passion

CHAPTER 15 / 16 Discussion

Joy in Work, Amazon Book Offer and Contact Information

The guests conclude by emphasizing that individuals deserve joy and pride in their work. Matthew Cross offers listeners a special deal on their book, "The Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Sequence," via direct email. He directs the audience to his website, Leadership Alliance, and his TED talk on YouTube for further information on applying these principles to business and life.

leadership alliance· amazon· ted talk· matthew cross· robert friedman· book offer

1:13:43 Whether you always know exactly what you're doing with it, if you focus on quality. If you make sure the quality is there a lot of things will fall into place I think that is A lesson worth spending some time on Well and when I'll just just to quickly Just to quickly add a thought to that Greg And then I want to just open it up for Bob share his perspective as well because see We have we have done again something that hasn't been done in history before we've brought Quality this science of quality To health Performance and longevity and the art science of a golden ratio to bear as well so we brought multiple vectors or angles. Breakthrough cross reinforcing support to deepening the quality and extending the quality of one's life ok but right back to personal transformation just spend a few moments on what you decide that it is extremely well said

1:14:31 And that is, Dr. Deming was adamant that we all deserve joy and pride and purpose in our work day to day." When we're in a system, again going right back to the educational system and it's not an accident. The consolidation of power in our time and the consolidation of wealth at our time is not an accident. It is engineered there is no doubt whatsoever okay? Amen! So what were talking about here is how do you restore reclaim reactivate your innate power as a human being okay? Part of this is going back to the foundational principles of the Constitutional Republic of the United States

1:15:09 When Jefferson wrote about, we're endowed with these rights, these unalienable rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It goes right back to that because it's now becoming science. It's common sense but it's science that if you don't have happiness in your life and by the way The Golden Ratio factors directly into how you can increase the daily happiness and fulfillment in your life but if you don't have happiness in your We're not talking Pollyanna rose-colored glasses all the time because life is in waves, but if you don't have consistent predominant happiness in your life you're never going to be able to share your gifts right on a consistent basis. It's just not going to happen and if we don't step out of the media and step into our own power and start to write our own script write our own story lead our lives with greater passion and alignment with our purpose then we're never gonna be able to truly

1:16:02 You make the most of our lives for ourselves, for our families and communities and for the world. It has to be in it is inside job happiness is inside job so close with this thought that you know deming was adamant about this if we wanna have world transformation it has to start with personal transformation that's the base of pyramid Man, very awesome. That just about does it for us. Thanks so much for being here and bringing the brilliant Dr. Friedman along for the ride I had a great time with both of you Hopefully the people can use some of this stuff to improve themselves But before we go...I did want to give you some time to tell people about other things You got going on And remind people where they can keep up with you and where they can pick up This golden ratio in Fibonacci sequence book that i have right here

1:16:48 Sure, sure and just very simply put for all of those out there listening To learn more about the work that I'm doing in dr. Friedman is doing Simply go we simply go on to the internet We have a Facebook page You can plug in my name which is Matthew cross and dr Robert Friedman And you'll go to our books on Amazon they're all on Amazon and for again for as a special treat as a special consideration for listeners of Greg's show. If you would like a copy of the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Sequence, the full color, 300 photographs in color portal, it is about 62 pages long and up on Amazon for $16. We will send it to your shipping handling for $5. Send me a direct email and my office will get

1:17:37 MC1618 at gmail.com or go to my company's website which is leadershipalliance.com and you can check out the TED talk I did by just punching in my name, Matthew Cross into the YouTube search engine. You pull it right up. It's a four-minute talk on The Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Sequence. And I love questions. I love engagement so if anyone wants to find out more those are all good places to start All I can say is, Greg, thanks a million on my behalf and Bob's behalf for this opportunity. This exploration because this is where the fun is and power is. For all your listeners, all I can say is you're in the right place at the right time. Go forth and conquer! Hey, this is what it's about. It's just a delight being here.

CHAPTER 16 / 16 Discussion

Outro, Plus Show Preview and Upcoming Guests

Greg Carlwood wraps up the episode, reflecting on the practical value of breathing and sleep advice. He previews the THC Plus second hour, which covers wealth attraction, corporate logos, and more details on the Armenia trip with Marty Leeds. He announces an upcoming show with Jim Marrs and encourages listeners to subscribe to the Plus version of the podcast for extended content.

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1:18:28 Right on, man. Yeah you got it! It was a blast another great time to add to the list much appreciated take care of yourself out there and keep living the Phi life Take care man And boom goes the dynamite there you have it guys A little different than the track we've been on lately but I think it still holds a lot of value Some things like sleep and breathing and drinking water might seem a little elementary, but honestly do we all do these things properly? I know i don't breathe right after 30 years you'd think i'd have it down. But i have horrible lung capacity! I can't even run out to the mailbox...but i've had several guests talk about the importance of breath in meditation and out-of-body experiences and i don't doubt that

1:19:11 It's just hard for me to take the time and think about it. But I've been trying the 3-5 exercise this week, and honestly...it does seem to make a difference! So even if you get just that out of it, I think its pretty valuable. Besides, when was the last time I had a guest who offered their book for free? That is pretty damn nice of them. I had no idea they were going to do that and I actually got a little nervous because there are a lot of you guys out there listening but let's take him up on the offer! I don't think there's anyone who couldn't learn a bit more and maybe apply a few of these techniques to their lives. I'll post Matthews email below with this show He also asked me to make him a plus account so he could interact with you guys and answer some questions or anything that seems To be the place where comments are the most active, so don't be shy and please

1:20:00 Don't be animals either. Please be kind to them for taking the time I know we're not discussing spider beings crimes of the Rockefeller Rothschild banking syndicate or an underground race of Giants But you can't do much with those things but wonder and I think Matthew said it best in there somewhere that if you aren't operating efficiently, if your weak and tired and run down How can you fight the system? How can you make the changes you might want to make in life. It's no use analyzing in detail all of the campaigns against humanity if you aren't going to also study how to be at the top your game, ya know I think those are valid points so after the first hour Dr. Friedman had to go and so me and Matthew went The Plus Show alone and talked more about attracting wealth and abundance

1:20:50 and an exercise to restart your imagination's natural creative powers of manifestation that so many teachers and occultists say is possible. We also get into the pentagram in Matthews thoughts on magic, how the golden ratio in corporate logos contributes to their success that your credit card is even proportioned to the golden ratio. How about that for money magic? And we dedicated a good amount of time to talking about the Armenia trip in the Plus show. Both of us had some decent insights from it, Marty Leeds even chimed in with an encoding of Pi that he noticed in one my photos Anyway I thought it was a good positive departure before we dive right back into the weeds next week The last show of the month! I finally got caught up Six shows since September right? I think so Marie Jones Professor Doom

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