Tuesday, 30 April 2019

Jock Doubleday | The Bosnian Pyramid Complex, Lost Technology, & The Hollow Earth

A deep dive into the Visoko Valley reveals prehistoric energy beams and geopolymer construction that suggest the Earth was intentionally engineered by an advanced ancient civilization.

Bosnian PyramidsHollow EarthScalar EnergySemir OsmanagichElectric UniverseRavne Tunnels
By The Higherside Chats Free Show | 1h 14m listen | 20 chapters
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About this episode

Semir Osmanagich and Jock Doubleday challenge the foundations of academic archaeology with evidence of a massive, artificial pyramid complex in the Visoko Valley of Bosnia. These structures, including the Pyramid of the Sun, exhibit a 12-second orientation to true north and emit a continuous 28 kilohertz electromagnetic beam confirmed by electrical engineer Goran Marjanovic. The discovery suggests a global network of prehistoric engineering that defies the standard historical timelines taught at institutions like Cambridge University.

Field research at the Ravne Tunnel Labyrinth reveals a sophisticated passive ventilation system where oxygen levels increase deeper into the prehistoric tunnels. Russian scientist Valery Uvarov and researcher Jock Doubleday link these sites to planetary shielding theories, suggesting the Earth was terraformed with alternating geopolymer layers to protect inner-earth inhabitants from asteroid impacts. Additional investigations in Rockwall and Utopia, Texas, identify similar scalar antennas and artificial rock walls that mirror the baked clay stone construction found in the Bosnian riverbeds. These findings support the Electric Universe model proposed by Wallace Thornhill, which disputes gravitational accretion in favor of intentional planetary design.

Jock Doubleday recounts the physical dangers of his 23-month residency in Visoko, including navigating active landmines from the Bosnian War on Ossiella Hill to document hidden terracing. Greg Carlwood reflects on the legacy of the late Philip Coppens while exploring the possibility of interdimensional beings like the Anshar residing within a hollow earth. The segment highlights the shift in local Bosnian politics as tourism revenue finally forces municipal support for these controversial excavations.


CHAPTER 01 / 20 Discussion

Higher Side Chats Plus Membership, Subscription Benefits

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greg carlwood· highersidechatsplus· mp3s· forum access· subscription

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CHAPTER 02 / 20 Discussion

Ancient Mysteries, Global Pyramid Complexes, Jock Doubleday Introduction

Greg Carlwood challenges conventional historical timelines, citing evidence from the Younger Dryas impact theory and Plato's accounts of Atlantis. The discussion highlights global anomalies such as ancient mound builders, underground tunnel systems, and pyramid structures found in Egypt, China, and Mexico. Guest Jock Doubleday is introduced to discuss his extensive field research at the controversial Bosnian Pyramid complex.

younger dryas· atlantis· plato· mound builders· jock doubleday

01:29 Alright Hiresight Chatters, buckle up and enjoy the ride from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood and it looks like happy days are here again as we spend another chunk of time digging into this weird world with the people who dare to explore it because I don't trust the conventional timeline in history any further than I can throw it It seems clear to me that ours is not a simple single story from hunter-gatherers to eyewatch wearers, but more likely an up and down and back and forth long running set of cycles and rounds of civilization with many secrets still left hidden. And the evidence for that is all around us. The diligent research done by those focused on the Younger Dryas impacts which conveniently overlays with Plato's dates for the destruction of Atlantis

02:11 The evidence of mound-building giants in ancient America that won't be in your textbook, the vast underground tunnel systems of nearly every continent that still lack an explanation and the stories from indigenous cultures that involve watchers teachers and all kinds of creatures that might have also played a part in the human saga maybe even some who kicked it off. There's clearly no shortage of ways to wade into the weirdness, but one of the most interesting is exploration of ancient sites and more specifically, the remnants of pyramids that at this point seem to span the globe. Egypt, China, Mexico, Armenia... And some will even tell you Antarctica, The Moon and even Mars should be included in the pyramid list!

02:52 However, one of the most controversial of these pyramid places is the complex that's been creating buzz in Bosnia. And if what the mainstream claims are just large hills actually turn out to be another set in what might have been a work of worldwide culture of pyramid builders then they would be first found in Europe and in many ways some of the most impressive Well folks, today we're talking to a fella by the name of Jock Doubleday who found out about these Bosnian Pyramid claims in 2011 and was so compelled that he's taken several trips to explore and document the findings. Much of which can be found on his YouTube channel Bosnian Pyramids and his website An American In Bosnia

03:33 Since 2011, he can now say he spent 23 months living and working in the Bosnian Pyramid Complex. And I'm really glad we have him here to set the record straight! The ancient mystery pursuer, Bosnian pyramid promoter and fellow Hollow Earth enthusiast, Jacques Doubleday welcome to The Higher Side It's a pleasure to be here. Yeah, man this is going to be a lot of fun thanks for doing it you originally wrote me as someone who has heard THC before and gave me a lot of information about this Bosnian Pyramid complex as well other complexes that you have been exploring in Texas I'm sure we'll get to that but let's start with the Bosnian pyramids i am sure some people are hearing about this for the first time and others are like me thinking well this is very cool not hard for me to accept

CHAPTER 03 / 20 Discussion

Bosnian Pyramid Discovery, Academic Orthodoxy, Educational Indoctrination

Jock Doubleday describes his 23 months of field research in Visoko as the official videographer for the Archaeological Park Bosnia Pyramid of the Sun Foundation. He critiques the mainstream educational system, characterizing it as a "satanical" method of control designed to humiliate students and suppress alternative knowledge. The segment links academic gatekeeping at institutions like Cambridge University to broader geopolitical interests and the CIA.

visoko· semir osmanagich· archaeological park· cambridge university· rothschild

04:20 But these ancient pyramids seem to be everywhere. What's so special about this set in Bosnia? So what can you tell us to help us understand their exceptional uniqueness and how they came to be discovered? Well, let's see first I'd like to just introduce myself by saying that I'm someone who doesn't know anything And I really mean that, i'm a guy who did field research with the video camera for 23 months in Bosnian Pyramid Complex. I lived in the little village of Visoko for 16 months and 2014 to 2015 as official videographer for the Archaeological Park Bosnia Pyramid of the Sun Foundation

05:00 and then another three months as official videographer in 2017, so I would wake up every day in the pyramid complex and discover the pyramid complex Dr. Samir Osmanagich was rarely in town to sort of micromanage me even if he was in town he still wasn't micro managing because Yeah lots of things do as he is thirty employees were performing the boss apartment complex is lots and lots of stuff going on his gut tens of thousands or more tourists every year coming in to manage. And you know volunteer programs, So every year six continents worth of volunteers come in for two week shifts to help dig. And so he's got lots to do, I was basically free to do what i wanted occasionally say hey come and make a certain video for certain reason oh there some scientists coming and go film their work

05:51 interview them, he'd give me specific things to do but generally I was free to do what i wanted and I would just go walk around and see what's happening. So I have original field research, I have evidence on video and photos I can't tell you what it shows. I have my own opinions, I don't know anything You can decide what you think watch the videos look at the articles look at the photos... You could make your own decision and you could have your opinion and we'll all have our opinions The global mind will make its choices Well said and I've seen a lot of those photos and videos. And of course, I know nothing about analyzing rock or ancient structures but I do see several things that look artificial

06:36 That's basically where I'm left, you know. I can't really say one way or the other but my intuition says something is up for sure and the mainstream says this is completely natural formation nothing special about it and of course we're going to get into all the reasons to doubt that claim but I did want to kind of ask you just about your overall views of the ancient past as opposed to the boring mainstream story beyond just the Bosnian pyramids what does the human story look like to you? Why the big cover-up I think cover up is the key. It's not just a boring story, it's like a blanket that has been thrown over us well i guess the matrix comes to mind. That thing was the veil that has been thrown over our eyes so its purposely... It's a deceptive narrative Yeah! Its darkening our vision, dimming our vision, it's like chemtrails that are dimming like solar dimming program, it's dimming our perception purposely

07:34 and diabolically i mean i hate to go negative but this is the case and so it's like we're gonna bore you in school for twelve years you can sit in a chair for twelve years be purposely and diabolically bored. And made to feel that knowledge of something that is associated with humiliation because if you don't get as good or great somebody else or few answer wrong your humiliated its always about humiliating the student and the teacher knows everything and you know nothing. And so knowledge and humiliation are completely tied, so that when you go out into the world after 12 years of that, if someone tries to teach you something? You go oh he's trying to humiliate me! Then you react in a defensive way. So anybody with knowledge that actually breaks free from the paradigm, the boring controlled diabolical paradigm who wants to be a teacher and help people also break free

08:27 then is looked on as someone to be feared because everyone thinks, oh he's trying to humiliate me with this knowledge. And so it's a genius system! It's satanical is what it is. Well said man and I pulled a quote from your site that i do think gives people another bit of context for where your head's at when it comes to controlling history in education here you say, cambridge university is a Rothschild stronghold most of the Rothschild attended Cambridge and they give generously to the university if monsters could be generous. The Rothschilds don't even bother to try and hide the connection of the major publisher University Science Books Press to the Rothschild-created CIA. University Science Books Press is based in Dulles, Virginia a few miles from Langley where the CIA grows like a giant parasite on Earth to the great detriment of humanity and of the biosphere in general

CHAPTER 04 / 20 Discussion

Hollow Earth Theory, Planetary Shielding, C.M.R. Fowler Critique

A tentative theory suggests that ancient civilizations terraformed the Earth with alternating hard and soft layers to shield inner-earth inhabitants from asteroid impacts. This model proposes that soft layers cushion impacts while hard layers redirect kinetic energy horizontally. The guest critiques C.M.R. Fowler’s book "The Solid Earth," published by Cambridge University Press, for ignoring the hollow earth hypothesis.

hollow earth· terraforming· asteroid impacts· kinetic energy· cambridge university press

09:21 And I like that. You hit on several great points, but most relevant is that the mainstream narrative is pretty tightly controlled and it's not that hard to do – not as hard as some people would suggest. David Malaney Yeah and I was researching The Hollow Earth so I think that was in my shielding article you were quoting from? That has to do with The Inner Earth, The Hollow Earth and the theory that I came up with just recently which is that perhaps And this is just a tentative idea. The ancients terraformed the Earth with alternating soft and hard layers to shield the inner Earth civilizations from asteroid impacts so that the soft layers would cushion and the hard layers would direct the kinetic energy horizontally

10:08 So a huge, huge asteroid that came in which could destroy the Earth or it could destroy or at least rock the foundations of the inner civilizations or disrupt their civilization to a significant extent. It would be mitigated but energy from that asteroid would be mitigated by these hard and soft layers. Now I wrote to the author of The Solid Earth this book that came out of Cambridge And I said, you have this book that says the Earth is solid and I wonder what you think about the hollow earth theory. Of course she didn't write me back that was two months ago. Her whole reputation is based on this idea they know everything about the Earth or most things about the earth and students can sit back and listen to lectures of learned professors and she's one of them

10:56 Fowler is your last name, f-o-w-l-e-r and it's the solid earth. So I was talking about that book how it's published by this company that is clearly compromised. Not just compromised but created by the people who want to essentially as we spoke about before control us and so this is the problem. You are breaking out of it your chats are breaking out Helping people to realize where we are and then also not just oh we're in a controlled well of darkness but let's go find out what's outside. What a great idea!

CHAPTER 05 / 20 Discussion

North American Tunnel Systems, Stanton's Cave, Grand Canyon

The discussion explores the possibility that natural caves are actually part of an extensive, man-made tunnel system stretching across North America. Specific sites like Stanton's Cave in the Grand Canyon and Mammoth Cave are identified as locations where authorities have allegedly restricted access under the guise of environmental protection. These tunnels are theorized to potentially connect to an inner-earth civilization.

stanton's cave· grand canyon· mammoth cave· tunnel systems· bats

11:35 Indeed, and I like the shielding theory a lot. We build protective structures to shield us from the harsh environment we call houses why not just scale that up to the entire earth if you were able to do that or if you lived during a period of cataclysm in the past? We have all these tunnel systems underground they're pretty vast and hard to explain with the kind of mindset we have about the ancestors If they could build these tunnels, maybe they could also shield the surface to a degree. I think it's compelling. The tunnels are super interesting because we're just coming to this you know? There is something called Stanton's Cave in the Grand Canyon. This is what the orthodoxy has called this tunnel

12:22 They call it a cave because they don't want us to realize that it's part of the tunnel system that stretches across North America. And they've sealed it off, they said oh bats live there we're going to seal it off so no one can explore anymore because were protecting the bats. The bats can go in through holes and mesh but people cant get in there and also sealed off mammoth cave which is also a tunnel system but they call the cave so they keep calling these tunnel systems caves every time you hear about a new cave being found it's not okay but it's clearly a tunnel and that people go into it make along video and then eventually get sealed off well, you kind of wonder where these tunnel systems are going ultimately.

CHAPTER 06 / 20 Discussion

Semir Osmanagich, Visoko Valley, Pyramid of the Sun Discovery

Semir Osmanagich, a Bosnian native, discovered the pyramid complex in 2005 after noticing the unnatural geometry of a hill in Visoko. Despite initial massive tourism and interest, mainstream archaeologists labeled him a huckster to discourage further investigation. Osmanagich’s background in ancient civilizations and his doctoral work on the Maya provided the foundation for his identification of the Pyramid of the Sun and the Pyramid of the Moon.

semir osmanagich· visoko· sarajevo· yugoslavia· indiana jones

13:01 Do they connect to the inner earth? That's a question. Exactly, who knows where those tunnels go and so let's get into the Bosnian pyramid research maybe tell us a little bit more about Samir who you mentioned I mean this is kind of how the pyramids have gotten as popular as they have As you said you worked kind of independently but We don't have the visual elements that I know you've had for other presentations. Give us an idea of what this complex looks like, help people get a good visual and just that 101 context we need to understand this area. All right well in 2005 Semir Osmanagic who is a Bosnian native and as some people may not know Bosnia is a Balkanized country or part of what used to be Yugoslavia

13:55 So Bosnia is just south of and east of Croatia, just west of Serbia, northwest of Montenegro I guess. And so he was born in Zenica sort of in the middle part of Bosnia and he was an unusual bosnia in bosnia it's malo pomalo little by little everything slow everything is take your time to get easy when i went there as a sort of a hyper energy american, i stood out like a sore thumb everybody thought i was with the CIA because I was running around with my camera on my backpack they're like who is this hyper energy guy why doesn't he just relax you know

14:37 Why is he taking pictures of everything? And it's hilarious to me that they thought I was with the CIA because all I do is rail against that nonsense on Facebook. So, I have this incredible American energy let's progress let's go forward and Bosnia is like where are we going let's just hang out and work in the garden and have some fun have a coffee have a cigarette so Semir was different He was reading You read hundreds of books while other people were having cigarettes and coffee, he was learning about astronomy this is back in the day when the space age was like a big thing rockets you know we're just becoming a thing that over going to the moon fascinated him.

15:17 So he was going all across the world. He was fortunate enough to have family that had enough money to help him, I guess travel so he started researching ancient civilizations and he was really interested in pyramids and so he wrote a bunch of books on his travels and his doctoral dissertation is an Indiana Jones adventure novel, but it's based in reality. It's his own travels. It's a beautiful document. I think it's called The World of the Maya. Absolutely beautiful document and it's in English so anyone can find that on the internet It's astonishing. That is just one travel adventure, he had many many many and then in 2005 he came back to his own country of Bosnia and he was invited by a friend in Sarajevo to come up to visit the museum in Visoko, a little town that he'd never even been to even though it was only maybe 75 kilometers from this place of birth

16:11 And so he went up there to visit the local museum just you know, to see some artifacts from just a few hundred years ago or maybe 1000 years ago. He looked over and noticed this hill The primary hill and he said wow that was like it is a northern orientation. And i really got a flat smooth side facing north of the god i just come this year yeah so i started looking at this hill and you said, let's go up to the top of the girl there's nothing else but you know some old ruins from town and you said hello will go into the top so he took his group up to the top

16:49 He saw another structure that looked like a pyramid across the river. And he said, OK look we're standing on the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun right now and across the river that's the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon and he started naming structures! And then within six months tens of thousands of people had come to visit the Bosnia Pyramid Complex in the first year 200,000 people came to visit the Bosnian Pyramid Complex and it's been 550,000. It dropped off substantially immediately after the first year because the orthodoxy came in and said, he's a huckster. He is a liar. He is trying to get tourism to Bosnia. He doesn't have any science. We know the truth we haven't been there but we're not going to go there. We are just telling you and we're going to use Wikipedia tell you that it's a false claim and he is trying to scam me out of your money so that's the basic Bosnian pyramids 101

CHAPTER 07 / 20 Discussion

Pyramid Geometries, True North Orientation, Giza Comparison

The Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun exhibits a more precise orientation to true north than the Great Pyramid of Giza, with an error of only 12 seconds. Key characteristics of the complex include strong astrological alignments, proximity to ancient rivers, and specific resonance qualities. The distance between the peaks of the Sun and Moon pyramids is exactly 3.2 kilometers, a number significant in ancient sacred geometry.

great pyramid of giza· true north· sacred geometry· visoko· resonance

17:47 Nice way to bring us up to speed. Yeah, I've heard Samir describe You know the two biggest peaks as the pyramid of the Sun and the pyramid of the moon like you mentioned and I watched a great TEDx talk by Samir where he lays out all the commonalities that seem to Relate to the pyramid structures that we know about they're oriented northwards They have strong astrological alignments they have underground tunnels beneath them They have unique energetic or resonance qualities and they tend to be near ancient rivers and gold mines. And not only are these characteristics in play with the Bosnian complex, in most cases they're the best example right? They're the best example of

18:32 of checking these boxes for example northern orientation the best example we have is the great pyramid of giza at zero degrees two minutes so it's like slightly off but the bosnian pyramid of the sun is zero degrees zero minutes and twelve seconds which is actually even closer to a true north orientation and when you factor in those elements like tunnel systems underneath Apparently the radar shows them to be deeper and longer at the bosnian complex than most other places and so these little boxes we can check when it comes to ancient pyramids they can be boldly marked for this complex apparently because these.

19:15 Characteristics aren't subtle there. They're quite obvious, according to Samir at least. You're exactly right and your research is genius and you are clearly by far the most well-researched interviewer that I've ever been interviewed by! Most people are like the Bosnian pyramid. And I'm like well actually it's pyramids. Like they don't know anything and he just wants me tell them everything so I really appreciate all your research. So you should just talk and I should just sit back and I Should interview you that'd be an interesting interview because you obviously know a lot about the pyramids already in Bosnia. I try, I try like another thing is I hear the sacred geometry that's encoded is 3.2 kilometers from peak to peak when it comes to the pyramids of the Sun and Moon again three point two A number that was important to the ancients It's in that body of lost knowledge And it comes into play here as well but

CHAPTER 08 / 20 Discussion

LiDAR Satellite Imagery, Temple of Mother Earth, Valery Uvarov

New LiDAR scans of the Visoko Valley reveal smooth, artificial topography that contrasts with the rough, natural hills nearby. Russian scientist Valery Uvarov suggests that pyramids act as energy reflectors for a "mothership" positioned above the North Pole. The segment also mentions the Temple of Mother Earth and the possibility of an even larger pyramid structure at Ritanya Mountain in Serbia.

lidar· satellite imagery· tomsk· valery uvarov· ritanya mountain

20:09 Yeah, I mean obviously it's all part of the 9 to 5. I like to be informed man but you have spent time on the scene what maybe could you tell us from being on this scene that these pictures and videos and my research doesn't tell us? Well, if people want to check out my article New Lidar Scan of the Bosnian Pyramid Complex on My An American in Bosnia WordPress site. New lidar scan okay you've got photos using the lidar imagery it's absolutely gorgeous imagery from a satellite showing the topography of the complex

20:45 You know the pyramids are not and the structures are not as obvious as in Egypt or other places where they're built out of blocks. Because in Bosnia, they've got that about the materials and we definitely get into that if you'd like because it's totally key but the LiDAR scan helps us to sort not necessarily prove but give more evidence toward the fact that these are real built structures as opposed to natural structures. So, as you said we find the northern orientation of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun to be obvious in this LiDAR scan and we see a really smooth surface there as opposed to the sort of rough corrugated hills nearby and we see the really smooth

21:28 concave satellite dish-shaped surface of the Temple of Mother Earth, which is a structure just east and south of the Phoenice River in that complex. So very close to the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. And so we've got these two northern facing structures. Valery Yuvarov, a Russian scientist who's building a pyramid complex in Tomsk Russia – In fact I think he has most of the pyramids already built at this city of pyramids that he's building up there for healing effects, he's really into the healing of pyramids. He says that pyramids around the Earth... The key face of the pyramids around the Earth is the northern face and that is because there's a mothership I don't know whose mothership it is but there's a mothership above the North Pole That's gathering reflected energy from these pyramids What this race of beings in the mothership is doing with the energy? I have no idea but this his theory

22:24 Wow. So the northern face seems to be the key and in the complex you see that the northern face of the structures is the most defined, the most delineated and this satellite dish shaped temple of Mother Earth as you see in this photo in the LiDAR scan article is shockingly beautiful and smooth it just looks like an earthen satellite dish so as far as the northern orientation of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun yes your correct We have the best orientation of any pyramid so far measured on the planet and it's also the biggest pyramid, so far measured on the planet. Although one could say that there is a pyramid in Serbia, I'm trying to remember the name right now, Ritanya mountain It's this three-sided pyramid that is much much much bigger than the Pyramid of Sun if in fact its artificial and many people believe it is So that would be the biggest pyramid but anyway so far

23:16 The largest pyramid and the pyramid with the best orientation is the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. It has a 0 degrees, zero minutes 12 seconds error so it's so close that it's only twelve seconds away the Great Pyramid is 12.33 times less precise than the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun, so that Great Pyramid's 2 degrees 28 minutes 0 seconds off of perfect orientation to cosmic north. So this is amazing because people keep talking about the perfect orientation of The Great Pyramid and it's like well yeah it's kind of perfect but you know what's even more counter-perfect? Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun! This has documented that the orthodoxy doesn't want to look at it

CHAPTER 09 / 20 Discussion

Electromagnetic Energy Beams, Scalar Phenomena, Goran Marjanovic

Four independent research teams have confirmed a continuous 28 kilohertz electromagnetic beam emanating from the top of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. Electrical engineer Goran Marjanovic used drones to measure the beam, discovering it consists of repeating ellipsoids rather than a simple column. This leads to the theory of a "cosmic internet" where pyramids facilitate instantaneous interstellar communication using scalar energy and torsion fields.

energy beam· 28 kilohertz· goran marjanovic· tesla· scalar energy

23:58 Mm-hmm. And so it is very hard for me to just gloss past a mothership harnessing energy from ancient pyramids But I did have a question here about this energy beam and of course these things as you just said have to relate if You just google Bosnian Pyramid's energy beam, you can see a bunch of images that show a lightbeam shooting out at the top you can find similar pictures of Chichen Itza or But I don't know how much stock to put in this. I'm sure you need special equipment to capture it, and it's not really visible to the naked eye, I would assume but I've listened to Samir say that this energy beam has been detected by four completely independent teams at different points in time with different equipment and they all confirm a continuous 28 kilohertz 4 1⁄2 meter beam thats coming straight out of the top

24:52 The Pyramid of the Sun seems almost too good to be true, but what more can you tell us about that beam and I mean...I guess the mothership. Who can say much about it except if it's there, it's there? Yeah, I've got no more information on the mothership. That was kind of another one of those things that I heard Valerie say in an interview it was kind of a spontaneous interview we did with somebody in a cafeteria where there's a whole bunch of noise behind him and it's clearly just like hey you want to do a quick interview? Sure! I was like oh my god there's so much cool stuff in this interview and he just sort of went on about this mothership for two seconds and then he went onto something else and I'm like Oh My God You don't wanna tell us more about this

25:33 So that's all I know. As far as the beam on the perimeter of the Sun, yes four research teams have confirmed this electromagnetic beam then in 2017 Two years or so later than these teams that research the electromagnetic beam, Goran Marjanovic who's a Serbian electrical engineer and Tesla experimenter. He builds Tesla machines to test them out and see what they do. Super smart guy super nice guy he's been up to the Bosnian Pyramid complex many times doing electrical measurements has got many kinds of equipment to measure different sorts of electromagnetic phenomena

26:12 He's a guy who came out, he said you know what? You can't measure scalar phenomena directly yet. We don't have the equipment but he says you can measure the effects or he calls it the shadow so in other words it's not like you can measure the shadow The shadows not really there is just the absence of something It's the absence of light So its' not like we measured your shadow No! You measured the absence of light I'm doing the best i can to explain this because i don't really understand it. He's the guy who gets it most, and wrote an article called The Scala Conundrum. I interviewed him, asked all the possible questions that could think of, and gave his answers in detail so check out my article The Scala Conundrum has got all the information and links but im just gonna give you overview what he did was took a micro light drone, this is 2017 so its not that far away

27:08 He went to the top of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun where the beam had been measured, and you're correct about the size of it. And it's clearly demarcated at one edge of the beam suddenly there is no beam and then suddenly there is a beam so we have this what we thought was a columnar being right? A beam shaped like a column with energy going in and out perhaps In other words, we didn't know for sure if the energy was coming or going out or both we thought well maybe it's going in and out, and maybe it's a communication thing but that was just sort of a vague idea. But then after Goran came he said look what I'm measuring with my microlight drone when I take all these different measuring equipment devices that are hung from the drone and when the drone goes up and down inside decide to measure what the shape of the beam is? What I find is repeating ellipsoids

28:03 not a column of energy. So it's like if you looked at a double helix from the side, if you saw a double helix of energy spiraling up from the top of the pyramid and could see that then it would look like ellipsoids joined because its not just a column The idea is that perhaps it's a double helix kind of form Because we have the ellipsoid, we know it's an ellipsoidal thing. It goes narrow and wide, it goes narrow and wide. Every few meters it goes wide and narrow again. And he has all the exact measurements in his PDF file in Bosnian and English on that so Goran Marjanovic on Facebook basically what he said is look... He and Samir came up with this idea of a cosmic internet

28:53 What if pyramids around the world and what if pyramids on other planets were communicating with each other? What if we were allowed by cosmic law to communicate across a solar system or across the galaxy, or from our galaxy to another galaxy instantaneously with scalar energy. And what if pyramids were being built not just as multi-purpose energy machines doing many different things, like keeping the planet warm during an ice age because we've seen that pyramids raise the temperature of the soil by five degrees Celsius. So there's many different things that pyramids can do they can light a civilization with their electromagnetic energy that they create but what if they're also could you know scalar phenomena scalar energy torsion field energy machines?

CHAPTER 10 / 20 Discussion

Consciousness Projection, Interdimensional Beings, David Wilcock

The conversation shifts to the role of pyramids as aiming mechanisms for consciousness projection and astral travel. References are made to David Wilcock’s claims regarding interdimensional beings, time travel, and secret transportation to Mars via wormholes. The internet is credited with allowing "insiders" to bypass banking and institutional gatekeepers to share these testimonies.

remote viewing· astral travel· david wilcock· mars· wormholes

29:52 They can help us communicate to somebody in another star system. Yes that's very compelling and I'm totally open to that idea, well past the point of being skeptical things like remote viewing or astral travel our consciousness projection it's very clear those are real things so its possible that Like in the context of the great pyramid everybody talks about the qualities of the king's chamber of laying down in it and then you have this shaft that shoots off into space what if this is some kind of aiming mechanism for consciousness or what instead of just. Astral projecting to wherever you can dial it in two certain places and maybe two pyramids on two different planets are aimed oriented and somewhat the same way I know these

30:41 Balls are moving all over the place so it's hard to really dial it in but I think there could be something there for sure. I'm very open to that idea. Yeah and David Wilcock obviously has his insiders who keep corroborating each other's testimonies talking about interdimensional beings the obvious and just copious fact of time travel everybody's time traveling everybody is going through wormholes virtually instantaneously you can go to mars by just stepping into an elevator turning a key in your bars so it's like our brains are expanding

31:18 an exponential rate with the internet allowing us to hear these insiders' testimonies and the courage of the insiders inspiring them to come forward in a world where the bankers want to come and suicide you. They have the courage to step forward, then we have the internet to spread it so we're just like leaping forward in seeing the possibilities of what our world might be Still we don't have the truth. We don't know for sure, we just have lots of evidence tons of evidence mountains of evidence that the world is not what we thought it was you know? Indeed indeed and some out there definitely ramp that up to eleven and I don't know there are some really wild claims out there but i definitely think something is in the mix and it doesn't all amount to nothing but, get back to the bosnian pyramid complex your focus has primarily been on the riverbed or.

CHAPTER 11 / 20 Discussion

Artificial Riverbeds, Baked Clay Stone, Viktor Schauberger

Field research in the Bosnian riverbeds suggests the ancients constructed artificial channels using baked clay stone to prevent water erosion. These structures feature angled layers designed to create turbulence and vortexes, reminiscent of the theories of Viktor Schauberger. The guest argues that the entire landscape was terraformed to tie the pyramid structures together at their base for long-term stability.

clay stone· erosion· viktor schauberger· vortex· concrete

32:13 edges of this river that wind through the complex you say that your research shows that the ancients built or at least crowd this river and build a river bed thats impervious to water erosion, and this really ties the whole complex together can you elaborate on the qualities. Of the riverbed itself we're talking about a lot of wild stuff beams and all kinds what's so exciting about this river bed Yeah, let's get down to earth. Let's get foundational enough with these beams and stuff. Okay so let's say that you have a love for rocks when you're growing up and you collect agates and your like wow thats really cool and you just love looking at them and you can have a rock collection and you don't know why you do that? I mean i did that when i was kid, i dont know why i collected rocks. I got a

33:04 showcase and I lined it with black satin to make them look cooler. And I had a rock grinder and I would polish the rocks for hours and hours, days and days. I'd polish them then show them to people. Why did they do that? Why was they doing that? So many people are interested in gems and minerals and gem shows! People are showing their gems to each other. Why you're showing this to me?! So...I think a lot of people are attracted to earth elements naturally it's like part of us So I'm out there and all of us are still kids when we're adults, we're still just grown up kids really. And what we really want to do is go out and play in the creek but what we have to do is work for the bankers you know what I mean? So were in a cubicle for ten hours a day or five six days a week and we wanna be at the creek with our pants rolled up and we wanna be looking for frogs or something

34:02 So I got to do that because like I said Samir was away and when the cat's away, the mice will play right? so my boss was on another continent giving a talk about the Bosnian pyramids and I had my video camera. I'd wake up after five hours of sleep normally need eight hours but in the Boston pyramid complex I only needed five I get up and go wow! I've got energy And I would just go outside with my video camera and go, what am I going to do today? One day I said, I'm going to go into the river because I've been walking around the complex for more than a year every single day. As I walk along a road and see the edge of the side of the hill or the side of the pyramid and I see the layering that alternating baked clay stone and soft earthquake mitigating clay layers of these structures

34:44 I thought, you know everywhere I go, I see artificial construction. I've never seen anything natural anywhere near the complex and I went miles and miles outside of the complex to try to find something natural. I took a taxi for 15 miles outside but I couldn't find anything natural. Everything was built so it's like okay, I'm going down to the river and see if the river is built because I began to think that as the most logical thing for pyramid building civilization would do would be make sure that their structures last And the best way to do that is to make sure that water does not erode their structures from the side. So how would you make sure that never happened? Well, the way you'd do it is by tying the structure together at the base so that you've got one megastructure that starts at the riverbed and the riverbed is essentially a way to channel the water over your complex instead of having it eroded from the side

35:39 So I thought, well maybe that's the case. I said, I bet you it's concrete because there was some concrete on the Pyramid of the Sun that was like covering it most of its clay and clay stone. Most of the complex is built with clay and clay stones 99% of its clay and clay stones layers But I thought, you know what? The riverbed's gonna be concrete. Just like the LA Riverbed there is this canal through Los Angeles. You lived there right? San Diego but I'm up in LA from time to time And probably San Diego might even have something like that too where they build a little concrete canal for the water to go through Yes out to the ocean we do have that Yeah so i thought well maybe it's just like that and of course you know the way we do it is just make a flat

36:21 bottom and then steep sides, and that's it. That's your canal." And I thought well maybe that's what they did so I went down to the river took my camera and made a video and then I made a whole bunch more videos because immediately I saw that it was not concrete but it was built and it was built of baked adhered clay stone layers. So the entire complex in Bosnia is built of baked claystone layers alternating with soft clay layers, but the soft clay layers were missing from the riverbed.

36:57 And the reason for that presumably was because when the water comes through along the river course, if you have soft earthquake mitigating clay layers, the water is going to wash that out. So you got to have baked clay stone layers that are adhered to the next baked clay stone layer so it's all hard and can't be washed out. It's all concretized. That's what they did. If we were going to do something like that, we would just go well if you're going to make it out of clay stone which is concretized clay heated clay. Why don't we make it flat? Well they didn't make a flat. They have these layers that are edged and angled in so many different ways that's impossible even tell you. You have to look at the video and photos to see what they did why they angle them that way why they consistently change the angles

37:44 Some are more steep some of the list but they're all against the flow of the river and other words. It's like they want to create turbulence and then you go, well if they're creating turbulence is that because they want to create vortexes that are creating scalar helixes that rise up? You know what I mean. Yeah, Schauberger type stuff Exactly! And I've invited the Schauberger scientists out for two years of it emailing them just say please come out and check out this artificial river is just going to be so amazing you know please come out and they won't reply I don't know why they're not interested but it's like i want those guys to come out to make their own research because we need this kind of research. Indeed and i've seen those videos you have very impressive you show a lot of interesting features like these half circles and things that look like steps like you mentioned some

38:35 pieces of rock or clay or concrete that are angled against the flow of the river it creates like these little pools, these play stone layers that seem to create like a breaking system for water flow very compelling stuff and another interview someone asked you how they made it new said Maybe they magicked it up with their tech out of the ether. And hey, I'm definitely a fan of the prospect that with knowledge of ether and alchemy you can fine tune the properties of natural substances and very well might be able to alchemically mix the hardest clay or concrete on the planet similar to some of those advanced geopolymer

CHAPTER 12 / 20 Discussion

Geopolymer Construction, Ossiella Hill, Landmine Hazards

The theory that ancient pyramids were built using molded geopolymer concrete rather than quarried stone is explored, citing the discovery of a human hair inside granite blocks. Jock Doubleday recounts his dangerous exploration of Ossiella Hill, a site littered with landmines from the Bosnian War. He discovered that the hill is not a natural clay quarry but a built structure featuring inclined baked clay stone layers for structural strength.

geopolymer· red granite· ossiella hill· landmines· bosnian war

39:19 perspectives on other megalithic sites. We just don't have a lot of context for that, but it's definitely possible. Yeah and you got to wonder where the ancients got all the material? That's one of the key questions that nobody asks! Look at the Egyptian pyramids now we're getting to the point just now... Just in the last few months to the point where we're saying maybe all these blocks were not quarried but molded. Maybe they were created in situ as concrete blocks, even though they look like they're carved from bedrock maybe they were each created

39:59 And that's one way you could fit them so perfectly to each other is if you knew the measurements and angles, you wanted to create first then molded it that way. That makes sense to me. The idea that you could quarry blocks and carve them so perfectly to fit next to each other is, to me literally insane! You would have to be in insane psycho to think anybody can do that. Literally, the institutional orthodoxy is full of insane people. They're very nice people that doesn't mean they're not insane Their theories are crazy because the amount of work that you would have to do with primitive tools which is what they posit

40:39 to create blocks that fit together so perfectly from bedrock? That's just nonsense. And then you have to transport them, I don't think so. So we're getting to the point a lot of people are saying now scientists have said look We found a hair inside...I think it was the red granite up but it wasn't The Great Pyramid It was a pyramid nearby There was a human hair inside of it A lot of people are coming into this realization that the ancients needed to have material and where they got it to create concretized blocks just like we would today, we go find material and we make blocks out of the material. And then we build our structures or we pour cement, we poured into molds and that's our foundation so I think that's basically what they were doing but where did they get the material?

41:28 Now, Semir Osmanagic in the Bosnian Pyramid Complex he has said for years that the place that the ancients got the clay to build all these structures was Ossiella Hill which is directly east of the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. And if you look at a map of Visoko, you can see Ossiella Hill there on the right it's very steep tall hill right along the riverbed there Now I went to explore this hill. It happens to have been involved in the war 20-something years ago and so there were snipers on that hill, they had put landmines along the hill. So a lot of people don't go anywhere near Osceola Hill because they say the land mines

42:05 which are plastic and super hard to find by satellite, super hard to detect by any means really so far. Although a Dutch company did come along and say they have the ability to find these landmines, so hopefully we'll be able to get those out of there but those land mines still exists and they come out in the rain and they roll down the hill and no one knows where exactly they are So if no one goes on Oceania Hill but I was like you know what Here I am, I got time and i'm not worried about landmines. Because I'm crazy too! The orthodoxy is crazy and I'm crazy too so I'm crazy enough to go research Yosemite Hill because I want to know what it is Is that a clay quarry or not? So I went there And I sort of gingerly Went up the slope

42:48 I found immediately that it wasn't a clay quarry. It was full of textured concretized clay blocks, clearly a built structure and then you see the alternating soft earthquake mitigating clay and the hard baked clay stones and not just that but inclined baked clay stones in other words they inclined their stones into the structure for structural strength. So, the weight of all these clay stone layers was leaning into the hills they weren't just level they're leaning in and just super strong So when you see that, you go oh they built this hill but then where did they get the clay? I've been talking for 10 minutes and really my question has always been – I'm trying to come around to this. Where did they get the material? There's so many structures and there are huge. How do they make these materials or where did they dig it up from?

CHAPTER 13 / 20 Discussion

Bosnian Politics, Tourism Revenue, Ravne Tunnel Access

Local political attitudes in Visoko have shifted from hostility to support as the economic benefits of pyramid tourism become undeniable. While the city previously refused to maintain roads leading to the site, a new road was recently constructed to accommodate tour buses. The Archaeological Park Foundation continues to fund its research and excavations primarily through tourism revenue and souvenir sales.

visoko· tourism· archaeological park foundation· ravne tunnel· infrastructure

43:39 But we don't even know how deep the building goes. So in other words, the riverbed could be 100 meters deep and built in its artifice or it could be only say 5 meters deep We don't know but what if it's 50 meters deep? Where'd they get that much clay to make a river bed that is 50 meters deep and tens of kilometers long I mean that's a lot of material Mm-hmm mm-hmm yes man there is a lot there to explore And to dismiss at all out of hand seems a little disingenuous and that seems to be what's going on in a lot of arenas. I wanted to ask you about the political aspect, how has the local government been responding? I hear that they dismissed it but now they like tourism and its bit of mixed bag What is really going on there? How have authorities in Bosnia area handled this situation

44:32 Well it's really positive now so we did go back and forth a little bit originally was positive in the mayor was in favor of the project and support is severe with little bit of cash on the country about your supporter them then that politics which I think was because the orthodoxy came in super hard said you know this is nonsense and so the politics switch and stop funding the project so semiers Archaeological Park Foundation has essentially relied solely on tourism money to fund all of the digging that's been going on there and all the research. A lot, a lot of scientific research, a lot lab tests super expensive tourist money has been the key then just recently the mayor of Visoko who had been adamantly against the project switched

45:21 I think it's because Samir didn't fight her. He just sort of said, she has a view we'll just deal with this road to Ravne tunnel that the road was breaking apart and the city wasn't fixing it because they were like screw them! Screw them on their tourists who don't spend money in town. They take a bus up to the souvenir stands at Ravne and they spend money for the foundation but we do not get any of the money so in other words the city was thinking we don't get money from all your tourists which of course wasn't the case because all the hotels got money, the taxi drivers got money. The taxi drivers have families that live in Visoko. In other words, the money was getting spread out it's just that the city wasn't admitting it and so they weren't fixing the roads they weren't helping Samira now they are! They built a new road

46:05 just last year to help get buses up there in a safe way because the road was falling apart. I mean, it was really bad so now they can get up to Robin tunnel which is pretty far above the river where the tunnel entrance is and Ravni Tunnel is the main attraction in the pyramid complex. I know that you're super interested in that tunnel system, if you want to talk about it, I'm happy to do it. I definitely do and I believe its called the Ravni Tunnel Labyrinth? It seems pretty amazing! Dozens of miles of tunnels apparently people see orbs of light in them and feel energetic effects

CHAPTER 14 / 20 Discussion

Inner Earth Civilizations, Reptilians, The Anshar

The hosts discuss the possibility of advanced civilizations living within the Earth, including reptilian groups and the Anshar. According to some theories, the Anshar are highly evolved humans from the future who have traveled back in time to protect the current timeline. This inner-earth society is contrasted with the "surface dwellers" who are manipulated by bankers into constant conflict and war.

hollow earth· reptilians· anshar· david wilcock· surface dwellers

46:41 There are megalithic carved stones in the labyrinth I hear that mark the direction and the water flow of The stream underneath please tell us anything you can. The underground, I mean that's my bread-and-butter Oh with the underground your bread and butter? I think so! It's definitely one of the things i'm most intrigued with when it comes to the ancient world or these sorts of structures Why are you particularly interested in the underground, do you think more than anything else? Well because I love that hollow earth theory and i've seen some compelling video that seems to show the polar opening. A lot of people suspect that the UFOs that are seen a really flying in and out of those openings maybe other tunnel systems around and the prospect of

47:31 Even an abandoned underground city is amazing, but if we could amp it up to 11 and say that potentially there's living breathing civilizations under the surface. I mean that to me is one of the craziest and wildest things that I entertain as a possibility It's a lot of fun to think about And I don't think enough work has been done there to completely say that it can be dismissed Yeah, I'm with you because I got a hashtag called surface dwellers That's my new hashtag for For my shielding videos and articles because I feel like there's so much evidence that there is Not just one but many different hollow earth civilizations that are advanced and not just humanoid But other I'm not going to go into other ones

48:23 Reptilian. Okay, and there you know it's not like they're all like living in a big fun one area inside the earth I mean clearly the insiders information that we have tells us that the reptilians of their own caverns that are only a few hundred meters down in certain areas and then there is these fully deep inside the earth in the center than you have the onshore which is presumably what David Wilcock calls humanity from the future, who time-traveled back and is protecting the optimal timeline as he calls it or as they call it. So that Anshar are basically

49:03 us from the future, you know a highly evolved race that's protecting their ancestors which is us. And so it's kind of really cool idea if it's true I just absolutely am so happy to hear it. I'm just really happy that there's someone out there who cares because clearly in a world run by bankers up here on the surface nobody gives a damn they're setting up a system that gets us to compete with each other hate each other divide and conquer each other, it's like oh my god who we're gonna go to war with next is pretty much the surface dweller idea you know. Who are we going to hate next? Oh our neighbor let's hate our neighbor. We gotta have a religion that says love our neighbor why do we need a religion that says love our neighbor why don't we just... Why is it that we want to hate everybody up here on the surface well you kind of wonder what would be like living in civilization

49:53 perhaps there is one in the inner earth where people don't hate each other, where they're just like getting along. Some of what I've heard is that music is really important to the Anshar race that lives inside the earth and you got a wonder what would be like to live in a world where you get up every morning and people are thinking about what's next best song or how to harmonize better Instead of who am I gonna hate, how am I gonna make enough money to survive and pay my rent to a landlord that I don't like? You know. Indeed indeed that prospect does sound appealing maybe we should track down that Ravni tunnel labyrinth and knock on the door! Well that's the thing there is some researcher from Italy Nenad Gergevich who believes that Ravni Tunnel does lead to the inner earth now there is no evidence for that that I found

CHAPTER 15 / 20 Discussion

Ravne Tunnel Labyrinth, Prehistoric Engineering, Passive Ventilation

The Ravne Tunnel Labyrinth is a prehistoric system that was intentionally filled in approximately 4,600 years ago. The tunnels feature a sophisticated "low-pressure, high-pressure" ceiling design that allows for passive air circulation without mechanical fans. Measurements show that oxygen concentrations actually increase deeper into the tunnel, suggesting an advanced understanding of atmospheric engineering by the original builders.

ravne tunnel· dry stack walls· oxygen concentration· low pressure· labyrinth

50:45 I've been in there 200 times making videos and that's not an exaggeration because part of my job was to make videos of the volunteers who worked in there, and check out the new science. There'd always be some new excavation so it would always be in their making videos All of those tunnels, first of all I got to explain that there's so much information about Robin Hood Tunnel it's impossible to get it all into this podcast. But the key to this tunnel system is a prehistoric tunnel system. It was built in prehistoric times presumably at the time that the Bosnian Pyramid Complex was built then it was filled-in

51:21 An estimated 4,600 years ago and the reason we know is probably 4,600 years ago is that we found some organic material inside of a dry stack wall inside the tunnel system which gives us an idea that's when someone came in and filled it in because the dry stack walls are part of the fill-in process. And you're like well what does all mean? Well what it means Probably 34,000 years ago when the pyramid complex is estimated to have been built this tunnel system was built for unknown reasons. We don't know why there's a tunnel system that it's way above the river by the way It's really really far so it's not like near the river like most tunnel systems are

52:03 So why is it so far above the river first of all, why is there a tunnel system that's a labyrinth in there? It's not like oh let's go from A to B with this tunnel and we'll hide out here from some enemy. No! It's like this incredible winding labyrinth of tunnels that are basically human height but then you know you gotta kind of got a squat down at the beginning and then it goes up and down up and down up and down and by the way that up-and-down ceiling an engineered ceiling that gives the ability to bring air into the tunnel because it's a low pressure high-pressure ceiling. So in other words, there is low pressure areas which are the higher ceiling and then the lower ceiling compresses the air and then the higher ceiling decompresses the air so that air moves by itself without a fan inside the tunnel and continually rejuvenates it with oxygen from outside

52:56 which is unlike any modern tunnel where you need a fan to push air in and the further you go into the tunnel, the less air you have even if there's a fan blowing the air in. And pretty soon you can't breathe once your way down into the tunnel we can't breathe because there's no oxygen that's modern times well the ancients knew more There's no entrance and exit there's only one entrance so the entrance is the exit in Ravni Tunnel Labyrinth So, the only way to get air into the tunnel is from the entrance. One entrance and it's a really small area. Well how do they do it? How do you get 500 meters into a tunnel labyrinth and still be able to breathe? In fact how can there even more oxygen which is what they've measured? How can the concentration of oxygen be even higher deeper into the tunnel? You're like this is amazing! The ancients really knew something

CHAPTER 16 / 20 Discussion

Rockwall Texas, Conductive Mechanisms, Energy Amplification

The discussion touches on the massive rectangular rock wall found in Rockwall, Texas, which some researchers believe is an ancient artificial structure. Rather than serving as a fortress, these walls may have functioned as conductive mechanisms to amplify or mitigate Earth energy. The guest notes that such walls are found globally and often feature perfectly fitted stones that defy conventional primitive construction theories.

rockwall texas· josh reeves· crystals· conductive· energy

53:43 Clearly I'm just rambling right now, so you should get me back on track to what you want to ask me because there's just way too much information. You know? Well it's all fascinating stuff man and i could just listen to it all day and I did want to spend some time on this megastructure in Texas before We hit the finish line. Apparently there is a pyramid there too and I have had Josh Reeves talk in depth about the rock wall in Rockwall, Texas and it seems to be a mixture with crystals and things in it similar to Other artifacts from the ancient past where we talked about the mixing of these materials in a way that they have properties that defy logic today. I don't know how close what you found is to Rockwall, Texas or anything but can you tell us any more about this? Or the pyramid there? I know it's probably early to say a lot but is there anything else to add?

54:43 I'm not sure how far away rockwall texas is but i've done a little bit of research into that as well and it's absolutely amazing what they found beneath the soil there such an ancient massively built rectangular structure in your life why would they build a rectangular rock wall that's so huge, what's the point of it? I mean it's just like let's say that today we said lets build a rectangle wall. People would be like but for why in God's name would you do that? Why did the ancients do that well they've got walls all over the world and the orthodoxy always tells us there are remains of fortresses but you don't find the fortresses all you find are the walls and then you go wait a second these walls

55:30 built of stones or let's say concretized, molded concrete blocks whatever you want to say either way that are literally set perfectly next to each other always. They're never just sort of cobbled together So they're set next to each other and you think to yourself, what if they're conductive mechanisms? What if they were created to conduct energy. These walls might not be a fortress to protect you from an invading horde at all maybe their literally mitigating or conducting or amplifying energy from the earth or something like that probably Earth Energy so that's my feeling for Rockwall Texas I wish I could tell how far away it is but from where I am

CHAPTER 17 / 20 Discussion

Utopia Pyramid Complex, Texas Field Research, Scalar Antennas

Jock Doubleday identifies a potential three-sided pyramid structure near Utopia, Texas, using Google Earth and subsequent field research. He describes finding stepped concrete at the base of the structure, similar to the terracing seen in the Bosnian Pyramid complex. He refers to these Texas sites as "Scalar Antennas" and encourages independent scientific investigation rather than commercializing the discovery.

utopia texas· kerrville· google earth· scalar antenna· terraforming

56:09 I'm in Kerrville and nearby, just south of Kerrville about an hour or so. And this is all west of Austin. West and a bit south of Austin Texas is a little town called Utopia. Just east of that town on Google Earth I found an odd structure that looked pyramidal triangular you know three-sided pyramid structure. I thought well wonder if it's natural artificial? So I went down to do some field research And I wrote an article called the Utopia Pyramid Complex. And the first image you see is from above, it's just a Google Earth image of a three-sided structure oriented to the cosmic north

56:53 And when I researched it in the field, I found out...I took a tool. I sort of went to go dig there. I couldn't dig because it's all concrete and you say well you don't know that its artificial concrete? That's like well I don't know that it is artificial but it is concrete whether it's natural or artificial and my tool just rang off of it was a small metal hand tool just ran right off the pyramid At the base of the pyramid, it's stepped. It is not stepped like Roman style perfect right angle step but it is stepped concrete so there's...it's not just a smooth face going all the way down at the bottom. It's pretty smooth near the top and you can see that on Google Maps image if you just search my article Utopia Pyramid Complex

57:35 But you have this stepping out and I've seen this all around the world. Everywhere i go, there's stepping. Bosnian pyramid complex same thing they have terracing They call it terracing that they say farmers made but its not terracing its stepping The way we know it's not terracing in Bosnia is because the steps are not, is not like the rice fields of China. You know where they have a flat terrace and then steps down and there's a flat terrace and then you can work on the flat area as a farmer? No! It's not like that. It steps down and then angle continues So you have this really, really dramatic step that if you're climbing up a pyramid it's hard to get up it in the Bosnian Pyramid Complex because its four or five feet tall. You have to climb up this really steep sort of bump on the side of the pyramid or the hill and then you keep climbing at the same angle there is no flat terraced area for farmer to work on There are no orchards built on any flat surfaces so there's stepping everywhere you go

58:39 Texas the same thing on these structures is a stepping down, stepping down and why they did that I don't know. Maybe it's a foundational thing like essentially if you're building from the bottom you're sort of building a larger foundation that then gets little bit smaller and you step it up, you step narrower but your starting with a larger foundations so I think thats probably what they are doing But if you look at the, just switching over to Bosnia really quick for a second. If you look at the terracing that they call terracing, the stepping I call them step downs in Bosnia They're all over the hills every hill you see in the Visoko Valley area no matter whether you think it's artificial or natural

59:20 Every pyramid has these step downs on it and they go for miles and miles and miles. And clearly, they are not artifacts of somebody's property where they terraced it because each area of terracing would be different. In other words, they wouldn't step in at the same spot where the property line ended this next farm would step somewhere else but these things go on and on and on that curve. They curve beautifully elegantly all across the landscape Then there's another one, another 30 meters up the hill. Another one 30 meters up the hill and so the entire landscape is terraformed with these step downs and it's the same thing in Texas with this pyramid complex I found three structures like all scalar antenna number 1 2 & 3 instead of calling them the utopian pyramid or the Texan Pyramid of the Sun or something I called it a scalar antenna number one because everybody's calling at the Pyramid to the sun they got do some different you know

1:00:15 But someone else who comes along and call it what they want, I don't care. I don't have to be the guy that names it. I'm just saying check this out this is weird. I live near here here's a thing that looks like a pyramid but then I'm just going to go on to the next thing because I don't want to be the guy who stands at the gate and gets $3 per tourist to show you a pyramid that may or may not be a pyramid. I just don't care about that. What I wanna do Push the scientific envelope forward with evidence. Here's some evidence and maybe it's a pyramid Maybe it's not anybody can decide, you know Mm-hmm Hmm. Man, the world is full of mysterious things and that pretty much brings us to the finish line we really went for it today you know I love those details on this Bosnian pyramid complex and anyone who's a friend of The Hollow Earth is a friend of mine before I cut you loose remind the people where they can follow up on your work and maybe see more videos and images of the things we talked about today

CHAPTER 18 / 20 Discussion

Planetary Formation Theories, Electric Universe, Wallace Thornhill

The guest critiques the standard academic theory of gravitational accretion, citing Wallace Thornhill and the Electric Universe model. He argues that planets do not form naturally from dust and gas but must be intentionally built, a subject he is exploring in his upcoming book "Who Built the Earth." The segment concludes with a call for a "Hollow Earth party" to celebrate alternative planetary models.

wallace thornhill· electric universe· gravitational accretion· planetary formation· hollow earth

1:01:14 We gotta have a hollow earth party somewhere, whether it's on the internet or we meet up in the middle of America somewhere because I think the hollow earth is becoming big. I think we should have a celebration because you know it takes a little bit of courage let's say to go against the orthodoxy In any realm cause its pretty strong universities are pretty strong and wanting you to believe they way they want Yeah well hey any excuse to drink a little drink and smoke a little smoke is alright with me Let's have a celebration. It could be virtual meeting but I think we should celebrate this idea because it is wonderful idea that planets could be homes

1:01:51 instead of landscapes where you had to scrape out an existence on the surface, but instead the idea that the mass of the Earth could be your safe walls. To keep you safe from all the cosmic rays, to keep you safe from people who might want to come and war against you, and then to keep you safe from asteroids... What a great idea! It makes a lot of sense I think we should celebrate that idea so people can find more information on my Andamerican in Bosnia WordPress site and then I got the Bosnian Pyramids YouTube channel which i made as a backup channel for Samir's official channel, which is Bosnian Pyramids TV. So those are both good places to find information

1:02:32 What else? Oh, I'm writing a couple books. One's called Who Terraformed the Earth but the main book – the primary one that I'm working on and want to get out first is called Who Built the Earth because there's lot of evidence geophysical evidence astrophysical evidence that the earth and probably other planets were built too that they didn't just form as academia tells us They say that they gravitationally accreted, that the dust particles are like hey I'm so heavy and you're so heavy even though you're just a micron across. And we're going to gravitationally accrete in the vast void of space really? Are ya? So Wallace Thornhill from The Electric Universe model of universe says this gravitational accretion theory is nonsense and if we discard that theory then how in God's name did planets form

1:03:23 from dust and gas. Well, they didn't form so someone had to build them so that's my next book it's called Who Built the Earth? That's coming out whenever I can get it done So really excited about that like you have a little website called who built the earth WordPress site And it's got the chapter titles and I've got the research mostly down I just have to get time to write it in I'm just really excited about some of these subjects. I'm excited to talk to you You've got a great audience. I mean, I had no idea until we talked earlier before the show that you had such a large audience I'm really impressed and honored to be on your show Thanks man, and I'm excited for that book to come out. You're gonna blow the case wide open Of course, you know I can include a couple images with the show notes if you'd beat so kind as to shoot me over some good ones But that pretty much does it for us? Thanks again for your time and all the work you're doing take care out there

CHAPTER 19 / 20 Discussion

Post-Interview Reflections, Philip Coppens Tribute, Alternative Research

Greg Carlwood reflects on the interview, noting that the Bosnian Pyramid complex remains a polarizing topic even within the alternative research community. He pays tribute to the late Philip Coppens, a prominent ancient mysteries researcher who passed away shortly after a scheduled interview with the show. Carlwood expresses interest in hosting Semir Osmanagich in the future to further explore the site's energy beam claims.

philip coppens· ancient aliens· hoax· energy beam· semir osmanagich

1:04:15 Thank you, Greg. You got it! And boom goes the dynamite! I really like when we do something that nobody sees coming and i can tell you i really didn't know a damn thing about the Bosnian pyramid complex before preparing for this show and as much as you'll read out there about it being one big hoax... It seems like there are 10 or so fairly big points that a person would have to write off entirely to make the case that this is all natural. I don't think Jock would have gone back so many times and uprooted his life if he went there and didn't see something, And the underground parts are obviously the most interesting to me which really didn't get crackin' until the second hour because there's just so much introductory context to set up before we could really get into that, and The time really did just fly by

1:05:14 I never want it to be super obvious, but i really do put a lot of thought and consideration into where to cut the first and second hours of all these episodes. And I usually end up giving free listeners an extra 10 minutes sometimes just trying to find the right split where The guest gets to fully make their point before I chop it obviously between question and answer we know that can sometimes be 15-20 minutes This week, like I said. I wanted more tunnel details in the first half But this is the nature of conversation and like Happy Gilmore We just got to play it where it lies I will say the most fun guests are often the ones who speak boldly And Jock had no problem doing that and I know the energy beam claims are way out there but listen to Samir talk about it sometime he's got a

1:06:11 Several different presentations you can find on YouTube. Bosnian Pyramids and the name Samir, S E M I R will take you there. I've heard him described that he's gotten multiple independent teams out there who all have gotten different readings from it. He gives their first and last names. He talks about the research teams It's hard to just say that he is completely making it up and has gotten three different research teams to risk their reputations on that lie. On the other hand, its also pretty odd that even alternative researchers tend to ignore or dismiss this site

1:06:52 Given the various sites that alternative researchers are highlighting, what is so different about this one? Why would this be a wrench in their narrative. It seems to be complementary rather than contradictory Obviously an audio show has its limitations but it's pretty easy for people to do some follow-up Maybe check out the images that I included with the show notes or check out Jock's website or YouTube channel And I might actually try to get Samir on sometime down the road because i'm pretty into this now. He's very passionate and knowledgeable, and I think he'd be a great complement to today's episode but I want to put some space between them just cause there is so much other stuff to get into! I've got no shortage of topics even with staying pretty non-political lately

1:07:44 And I'm really happy about that. Some people are writing me saying that i'm ignoring everything that's going on, but to me it's just a big circus and we are talking about things that matter. Maintaining your own food supply 5G Big Pharma Missing parts of the human story The corporate ufology nexus All these things are important and interesting to me and they're bigger longer lasting issues than any president So I say let's keep doing our own thing and not let ourselves get sucked into the same old shit show. I hope you're with me on that! I consider that to be the distraction, not the higher side chats Anyway i am also glad we got to talk a little bit about Philip Coppins I still stumble on writings of his He was way into A Lot More Than Ancient Aliens Got alot of respect for that guy And he is missed

1:08:44 People might remember in the early, early days I did actually have a pretty great interview with Philip Coppins and we had a second one scheduled. And this was the first time where I was actually there ready to go and my guest wasn't showing up it's happened a lot since then but i mean this was early and I was like what's going on? I messaged him a couple times A half hour later he hits me up and says hey I'm really sorry I woke up, something isn't right and i'm on my way to the hospital. And then to my knowledge he never came back out of the hospital Really sad because when you consider that whole lot of early ancient aliens cast members He was definitely my favorite

CHAPTER 20 / 20 Discussion

Plus Member Preview, Healing Reports, Closing Credits

The host previews the second hour for Plus members, which includes discussions on healing reports from the Ravne tunnels and earthquake data supporting the shielding theory. The episode concludes with a summary of the month's topics and a musical outro. The final segments consist of the show's theme music and closing vocal tags.

ravne tunnel· earthquake data· healing· terraforming· higher side chats

1:09:36 And as you know, as much as we fit into the first hour there's always a second hour for people willing to support the show. It's eight bucks a month I give you five two-hour episodes We keep it action packed and commercial free and i say treat yourself to more in this particular one As I mentioned we talked about the Ravni tunnel labyrinth We talked about witness reports of healing while spending time inside that labyrinth We talked about some sweet, sweet earthquake data that supports Jock's hollow earth shielding theory. Gotta love that! And some provocative content about who built or terraformed our Earth and various hollow earth entrances around the globe All good stuff I thoroughly enjoyed it Big thanks to Jock for his dedication and his passion

1:10:28 But this closes out the month for us. I am pretty proud of the five set, a healthy dose of education and a generous helping of speculation and a few more logs for the fire but i'm getting out of here thanks for listening come back again next time i've done my part your move bosnian pyramid complex concealers human story hiders and tunnel labyrinth liars you're fucking me I'm trying to tell you It's not paranoia Not in my head It's just the hard truth Knocked on your door, but still can't To ask cause i know your head Is still in the sand Don't be sheep till ya slaughter For the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed But you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed Until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did you get the memo?

1:11:33 Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know where are- Can't you just admit, We're screwed! Anyway it's okay. You sit and wish but we don't have a choice It seems were stuck here But you can find no sis Drown out the noise Now use that altar End up your magic game Listen to THC you know Go with the edgy If you ever see

1:12:31 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know where our c- Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tuck in

1:13:36 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know where our cum- Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tell anyway It's a s- Can't you see that