Jackie Jolie | Your Light Life, Quantum Health, & Sun Magic

00:00 These days, so many podcast hosts just riff through unprepared segments until they get to the next ad break for pills they know nothing about cheap razors and whatever else they can get a buck from. But The Hiresite Chats does it differently We succeed or fail on the quality of the content and your desire to hear more of it. So you're about to hear another free first hour episode that's here to prove that two-hour shows are worth subscribing for! Five shows a month for just $8

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01:36 Let there be light, Hiresight Chatters. How the hell are ya? From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and I doubt i'm the only one who senses the overwhelming arrogance of the industrial medical machine Big Pharma in a white lab coat clad cabal They are certainly as aggressive as ever, but ironically have gotten much less convincing over time. Because when you look at the numbers from infant mortality and life expectancy to cancer obesity and autoimmune disease rates... The fruits of this system are pretty rotten And there's not much left for them to do but resort to bullying censorship and coercion But are we really surprised that a system that pumps fluoride-filled chemical water through lead pipes, produces our meat in dirty overcrowded facilities and covers our food crops in dangerous poison might have a different motivation than a citizenry in tip top shape?

02:25 Well, today's guest Jackie Jolie is a proponent of the three pillars of what's being called quantum health. Light water and magnetism Of these three pillars she has been studying and teaching primarily the truth about light And it goes much deeper than getting a little vitamin D Our ancestors knew it and according to Jackie The culture shaping parasite class has gone to great lengths To lie about light and hide the truths she's here to talk about today As she said to me, we can spend thousands of dollars on exercise diet sleep and mental health. But if you don't have your light life right? You can never have your health right well I say cheers to that and it certainly seems like we're going to need to get as optimized as We can for the troubled times ahead So let's get into it the quantum Health preacher and hidden truths teacher or the light shapes life lady herself Jackie welcome to The Higher Side As always great introduction and thank you so much for having me

03:20 Of course, thank you for saying so. And I'm really psyched about this one we actually met at the THC RuneSoup meetup in Austin and you told me a bit about your work and where you really got me interested is in fitting this information about light into the quantum health paradigm of light water and magnetism. I've done a couple good interviews about easy gel-state structured water proper hydration and importance water vortexing and of course magnetism has come up before in the context of our blood and earth grounding. And then we just tend to couple that stuff with saying, and also you need to get a lot of sunlight and maybe that's not enough having gone through your material I think it's going to be great that we can provide a much deeper dive into the magic of sunlight and a lot of aspects i doubt people are aware

04:11 But sunlight is free, it's readily available. And you say it's even more important than diet which probably raises a few eyebrows out there as you know but I guess tell us about how light became such a focus of yours when it's much more common for people to focus on those other areas the health? Yeah that'd be great that's kind of how I always start my seminars and talks when I talk to people about this as well I've always kind of considered myself, you know following holistic care and natural health protocols almost my whole life. I actually am a body worker for horses as my professional career and with doing that and knowing how the body responds to touch vitamins movement good hydration good energy being outside i've always kind of followed those natural remedies for healing yourself and staying healthy

05:03 I did not start learning about light until about three years ago. I came down with Lyme disease and i did have a tick on me from hiking, but didn't think really anything of it when I initially had the bite. I didn't get a rash or anything like that and about three months later wow like...I hit a wall! Hormones sank, libido sank, I had chronic really bad fatigue slurring of words I couldn't actually keep my words straight for work, even when it's something that i've been doing for 10 years and its very easy to just recall words and vocabulary. I didn't get as chronically bad as some people who do get Lyme disease or when it has gone so long misdiagnosed. I got it diagnosed pretty quickly and still at the time modern medicine wants you take 3 months of antibiotics

05:49 And I really wasn't keen for that. And I asked the doctor, okay well after three months of antibiotics if it's not gone because i'd already done some research and people are like the antibiotics don't work you need more help you need more herbals vitamins And then the antibiotics mess up your gut so badly. So when I asked my doctor, what do we do after three months if the lines not gone and I have other issues? She goes oh, we just do another three months of antibiotics. So it's like that doesn't really add up right for me and I don't want to destroy my gut and have other issues. And so I went and did my own Research and actually somebody that might be a good candidate for an interview in the future would be dr. Steven Buhner He's an animist Herbalists, he's a doctor. He's written so many good books one specifically online And he's not doing so well like he's definitely on his way out of the planet I mean very lovely and that might be somebody have interest for you in the future He is wonderful but he has a whole line protocol that heals you with tinctures from plants and herbs

06:50 And I did that and worked with a naturopath for a little while. And the naturopath kind of gave me the little seedling of a light life, you know getting out in the sun and kinda timing your circadian rhythms right? And I hadn't really heard any of these words yet so I was like well I work outside all day long! You know like I'm fine with the sun. And I hadn't learned enough context on what the circadian rhythm really meant and being outside with the light really meant because there are specifics to it that we'll get into today And so a friend of mine eventually ended up sharing Dr. Jack Cruz's information with me, and he of course has been a big pioneer in sharing the information on quantum health and science. He is a neurosurgeon from New Orleans, and anybody could obviously look him up online and find out lots of information on him and how he can help you but his information really just

07:38 You know us as conspiracy theory people or when we're truth seekers the truth resonates at a certain frequency and it just hits you and you know it, and you know It's right. And when I was learning the information about light and tying back to nature in your circadian rhythms... ...it just hit me right! And I said this is it this is the last answer I jumped on so many trains, the diet train and the exercise train and the herbal train and the natural train. All those things did help for a little period of time. And I know that there's people out there that do get help from vitamins and supplements for a short period of time but at the end you still always have some type of symptom or something comes back or it's just not ... You can feel it's just not quite optimal. You feel like you're always still fighting and you're always still shelling out money for all these things that are supposed to help you from the outside

08:26 And I was like, wow, I'm gonna step on this quantum health train and say fuck all to the other ones and see what happens. And so I'm about two-and-a-half years in now of reading Dr. Jack Cruz's protocols finding other doctors that are quantum health doctors and really changing my life for the better And I have to tell you, I'm 37 years old and I probably feel better than I've ever felt in my whole life actually. Certainly much better since Lyme and I have killed Lyme and been able to keep Lyme out of my system for the last two-and-a-half years. Hormones are back, libido is back, I have energy that's just raging

09:06 And then also on a esoteric kind of spiritual consciousness level that has just risen so incredibly strong for me, which was kind of a bonus effect that I didn't really know was going to come into play until it just did. That has been really cool and i know that there's so many people out there that are tired and sick, and sick and tired of being sick and tired. And they don't feel connected, and they don't feel a purpose, whether they believe in the Bible or God or evolution it all actually ties to the same and the messages there are the same. And maybe there's some of that, that we can get into like on the bonus two hour but all of that encompasses that and so I've been feeling that over these last 2 1⁄2 years and it just gets me so excited because also if I already feel this good in 2 1⁄2 years like what am I going to feel like in five years with having my light life better? So it's super exciting

10:02 And that's kind of how I got into all of it. Initially, there was a platform called Quantum Biology Collective and they actually started doing a certification program last year to certify people as quantum health coaches and so i also jumped on that opportunity I wasn't really sure what I was going to use it for just because I have my full-time job, but I'm kind of incorporating this light stage life into becoming something bigger. Maybe doing retreats for people and clinics and seminars all around the country or the world maybe that's what iIm trying to manifest anyways! And I got certified through them as a quantum health coach I don't really want to use it to coach people one on one. I really like doing more of this type of thing, like the teaching and the seminars you can grab a lot of people at one time and get the information out there. And I kind of want to be that little ripple that affects people in that way as well and hits them with that resonation of The truth about light so that's pretty much kind of how I got into it initially and where I've brought myself to now I've done a couple of seminars locally at like yoga studios health clinics things like that

11:05 And I held my first webinar two months ago on Zoom because i want to be able to get this information out to the masses. So obviously your podcast is going to be a great opportunity to do that as well Right on. I do love a good personal testimony of someone who has seen these things actually transform their life, I'm 37 myself. I feel quite fatigued a lot of the time maybe that's because of my indulgent habit? Maybe it's being a new dad, a combination of both but i also probably don't get as much sunlight as much as I love living in San Diego because the weather is so good and you can get out any day of the week I probably only take about half the advantage of that, that i probably could and so...

11:50 episodes like this because the information it starts to stack up and it becomes the inspiration to actually put a little more effort in. And I know that we're primarily working from a presentation that you've given before, and it's probably best that I don't step all over your flow too much so I'm going to follow along with the slides but let's just dive into it basically your first one says It asks, which is the most important to health light exercise food or sleep? I mentioned your quote in the intro. But help make the case that light is actually more important than food exercise or sleep. I love the fact that I can be quite lazy and get lights and not have to do 50 pushups a day. How is light as important or more important than these other components

12:38 Yes, great question and great place to start of course because when we do look at our health whether you're going to follow natural health protocols or some of our more modern big pharma protocols They primarily do focus on just a symptom or we just focus on exercise, food and sleep. Now granted I'm not knocking any of those things that they're not important. I still wouldn't tell you if you had your light life perfect that you can still go out and eat like Dunkin Donuts and McDonald's all day long because you can't and will explain some of that. I don't bring up diet a ton in this but there are few key points that I want to make But light affects everything. And so when we get a little bit further into the discussion of how and why, you know if you think about the sun that's out in the sky it brings life to everything and our ancestors that were not too long ago really they were living breathing sleeping hunting everything outside and So they always had the information Of the light spectrum that does change throughout the day and that's the most important part

13:39 When I got sick from Lyme disease, when I was learning about the light. Okay? I'm outside all day working on horses though like I got a tan and I'm fit. I'm good like I work out and again, I thought you know, I ate well, I slept well and I was exercising and I was outside so I should be fine the things that I was doing to mess up my redox potential which we will also touch on that I never got up and saw the sunrise in 35 years of living. I probably saw a sunrise maybe five times No to get up and go on a trip or at the beach Or to get up into horseback riding or something Yes, I was outside all day long where I would take beach vacations And be out in the Sun in the very middle of the day we'll talk about why that's not super great plan to do and then at night

14:24 I had blue light in my face all the time. So, I was watching TV with dinner or I had my cell phone in front of me with the blue light emitting from that screen... Or you have your laptop and then I used to eat super-super late as well so way after dark! I was eating at 8 30 9 930 o'clock at night My ex is Argentine and we just we always ate late And so a few of those things create a big mismatch in my circadian rhythm because it's not what we would have naturally done which means it's not what our genes and our DNA are already programmed to be tied to light. through our mitochondria. And so this is why light becomes so important, you can be eating the right type of food every day and be super strict on it, you can be exercising every day and you can be thinking that you're getting the right amount of sleep I slept well but i realized now i wasn't dreaming and my body wasn't able to run through a system called autophagy where it kills cancer cells in bad cells which we'll get into later too

15:20 And it can only do that when your circadian rhythms are in sync and then your hormones are in sync. And when we look at blue light at night, and we don't see the sunrise, we're not giving the cues and the codes and the information to our body that the sun puts out with its wavelengths to program everything in sync. It's basically kind of like a car that gets... The timing belt starts to go bad, and you don't really know it yet but little things in the car start to be off time and that's where then the car becomes, where the whole engine can go eventually. So all these things do add up over time but the problem is now in our modern day we're seeing people that are younger getting much more sick than our elder generation did and the only thing that's really changed in the last 100 to 150 years is electricity and our light environment so research shows that most people are spending 93% of their time indoors

16:15 And at the same time, skin cancer is on the increase. So we definitely want to talk about that conundrum later of saying that the sun causes skin cancer because it absolutely does not. There's no way that we could be spending the majority of our time indoors away from the sun and beginning skin cancer on the rise currently. You know there are millions and billions of dollars spent in pharmaceuticals And in the new diets or a supplement, or the new type of way of eating. Or like your sleep navigation rings and things like that you don't need any of that if you've got your light life right! You're going to sleep good, feel good, look good and not have chronic inflammation and be tired. The USA is number one consumer of world pharmaceuticals but yet we are ranked 38th in our healthy outcomes and longevity.

17:06 Disparaging and we can be doing better and the fact that light is free And if we just get some of that timing right which is by very small Habit, and lifestyle changes which most people are ready to do with exercise food and sleep Right so if you understand the light You're not gonna have to put such a large emphasis on the other three because they're just gonna fall in place Just like nature intended it too mm-hmm. Well those are great points and One thing I'd heard about how diet couples with the sunlight from Dr. Jack Cruz is that we should think of ourselves as light beings and that light energy, those electrons they are transferred from our food to our bodies

17:48 So that's a big part of why you can't to use your example, eat Dunkin' Donuts and be healthy. There is no light in a Dunkin' Donut as opposed to like the animals fruits and vegetables that are absorbing that sunlight and then it gets transferred to the person will also probably talk about seasonality but that's another factor is you're supposed to eat foods that are in season for your geographical area because the qualities of the light are different summer or tropical fruits and foods in the winter, your body does get confused because it's taking in a different quality of light. And it's like hey wait a second I thought we were in a different phase and that's all very interesting!

18:32 Light and electrons being transferred from the food I've thought about like gel state water being transferred from fruits and vegetables But this is another component it all really locks in place It all is very synergistic, and I'm kind of inspired by it a quantum health is the term used. I've tried to find the term I've used the term esoteric health because there does seem to be like a spiritual almost like the magic community. Those kind of people are the ones who, like the pagan community would look at nature as really the healer and all this kind of stuff but this is just an area where I really think it is one of the most suppressed things and I think we're going into a couple years that are gonna be very difficult and we should be in optimal health. As you said to me there are all kinds

19:20 kinds of problems when you ignore your light life or don't have it correct. But a major one is that 47% of people are too tired to function, and that's half of people too tired to function? How are we going to actually overcome a lot of our challenges in this system if we don't have the energy Time is one factor a lot of us are working so hard that we never have the time to get off the hamster wheel and try to make our society better but if we also don't have the energy it's just not gonna happen. We've talked many times on this show about how they want to keep us sick week and obedient so if we want you not be those things,

20:06 This is the kind of information we need, but give us a little more about when you ignore light. The factors that happen to people it's not just vitamin D It's not just general energy, but you have a whole list of things here Yes, of course thank you Yeah it's such a sad state when I came across that statistic about 47% of people admitting to being too tired to function That's, you know parents with kids and people with family or you have a dog or just anything that you would want to do outside of your typical work week. That just people don't have energy for and so yes they work us to death then we come home the only energy we have is sit in front of the Netflix screen And nobody knows that blue light coming from that screen at that time is making them worse Making them fat, making them diabetic, making them high blood pressure, making them high cholesterol

20:56 And so I do talk about some of the statistics when I do my talks and you know obviously we know that heart disease and cancer are number two top killers in the United States. And we have large numbers of people with high blood pressure, high cholesterol diabetes or being pre diabetic. And all of these people when you go to the doctor, the only answer they're going to have for you is a pill and that pill is only actually going to suppress the natural healing techniques that your body has inside of it to try to heal and deal with those issues The pill is also going to give you some type of side effect because it is a chemical pill that has been made in a manufacturing laboratory with artificial lighting as well. So I love that you brought up the fact about the electrons and the light, and I would like to touch base on that a little bit later too.

21:44 But with all of these statistics that we have people dying from, if they realize the things that sun did for you and the light did for you. Light can naturally lower your blood pressure. Light can naturally lower your cholesterol. You actually need cholesterol in your system to be able to make vitamin D in the first place and that's where even that information can really tie into like the veganism diet because most vegans are not eating cholesterol so you could say hey I'm on this diet and I go out and get as much sun as possible but you probably burn because you're having a lot of seed oils and You're not actually going to make any vitamin D because you don't have cholesterol in your system for the body to make vitamin D The Sun does release nitric oxide and that buildup of nitric oxide is what gives people high blood pressure And so when you're out in the daylight now, it's under the UV light and we still got to get into the wavelengths

22:37 But that UV light releases the nitric oxide in your system, and so it naturally lowers your blood pressure to where you don't need to be put on a statin that has huge symptoms and side effects for your body. Diabetes is the same way when we look at blue light at night, and that tells our body that it's the middle of the day. It actually continues to keep your hormones raised in like cortisol levels instead of making melatonin, and that raises your blood sugar And so just by looking at blue light at night or having artificial lights on at night around you is literally making you fatter, pre-dating. pre-diabetic and tired. And that's an easy change, easy, easy change. It doesn't even matter what you're putting in your mouth if you're still doing it on a vegan diet or still doing it where oh I just have some fruit or vegetables at night. If it's still after dark and you have blue light in your face, it is still going to make you prediabetic there's plenty of quote unquote skinny healthy looking people out in the world that are pre diabetic. So

23:34 this kind of information that I share, I certainly hope because it makes me see light in everything. And there is an esoteric side to that to where everything has a frequency and energy both on magic side both on spiritual side but But that energy is what's transferred from the sun through its certain wavelengths to the plants, to the animal, to the fruits. And then that energy is also then transferred to us and we as a light being do absorb light but we also emit light so were one big huge solar panel between our skin and our eyes those are two biggest photoreceptors that we have in our whole body The skin and eyes need to be able to see the natural flow of the spectrum of light throughout the day

24:15 And that starts with the sunrise. But some of these issues that we have are all fixable and preventable, just by tying back into light in nature without needing pills without needing surgery without having to feel like crap and being too tired to function now I don't know if some people do know this because it will tie into some of the corruption stuff but our number three killer in the United States is medical error. And the number one reason for medical error is misdiagnosis And that information also is just as important to get out. It doesn't really tie into light, but it's just something that we need to realize our doctors are not I'm not here to obviously go after doctors or nurses by any means they have been institutionalized by the Rockefeller medicine that happened in the 30s and you can talk about that later too

25:03 And so they've only been taught how to treat a symptom with a pill that's made with petroleum. You know, he needed his petroleum to go somewhere and so every pill and there's actually a lot of supplements out there now too but it is originally based off of petroleum So you're eating and putting oil into your system anytime that you take those things which are also not good But yeah, that kind of gives some of the statistics of when you ignore light we end up with a lot of sickness and we're seeing it more and more. And we're seeing it starting early. You know I didn't even touch on obviously respiratory diseases infertility which is a huge problem

25:40 childhood suicide, there's been a 60% increase in that in just the last few years. And if you think of like your and my generation we were the first generation that kind of got accessible cell phones but even still it was like a little like Nokia Yeah, and it was when I was maybe 19 or 20 kids nowadays are literally born into this non-native electromagnetic field of a world, you know between computers and Wi-Fi and laptops and watches and blue screens all the time touching them around them. And actually kids are much more susceptible to the magnetism that's bad for you from the non-native electromagnetic fields

26:19 they actually absorb more at a higher rate because their brain is not fully myelinated, which is our protection that goes around our brain and our neurons. So like Dr. Jack Cruz he doesn't even... He's like I wouldn't give kids any type of technology until they're 25 because you don't actually fully myelinate until you're 25 years old so that can kind of almost explain a lot of the big differences in why we're seeing diabetic kids obese kids which was just unheard-of Even for me to look around now I see so many people with prescription glasses for vision and foreseeing when I was in middle school or high school. I just don't remember that many people having glasses and The big pharma establishment medical community They're just making sure that they can diagnose you with something and then they normalize it So well, yeah your eyes are just getting bad we got glasses for that

27:10 You know, oh well you're just getting infertile. We've got in vitro for that we've got a pill for that." Well is it normal to have your eyes go bad at 22 years of age? Like absolutely not! We should be vital, strong beings that can physically do things. You know still have sex, still have fun and do all the things until literally the day that we drop dead! And The Light is what enforces that and helps you. This is where we need to kind of change the paradigm and change the narrative for sure. Yes Great message. I'm inspired and motivated already! And so you also have a couple of slides about the quantum health paradigm, and how water light and magnetism all fit together? I know it goes very deep and probably takes awhile to really lay out completely but can you give us a bit of an overview about how these components all work and what makes up the quantum health model and why you think that is the superior model compared everything else?

28:09 Sure. So and some people, you know even on this podcast might have not heard the word quantum yet it's definitely kind of coming around as trendy now I'm going to start picking up steam and popularity which is good but quantum just really means like the space that's around us in all things and things that we can see and things that we can't see And the quantum health model is made up of water, light and magnetism. And today we're only focusing really on light but light really trumps and is the top layer of really that whole model because light is involved in water and light is also involved in magnetism. It all starts with light as soon as a sperm coming into an egg there's actually a huge spark of light from zinc

28:53 the easy water and the energy of the soul coming in and that starts with light too. So it all basically does come back to light no matter what I do have a really great graphic that i'm sure you are seeing then, I apologize but not everybody gets to see it but you'll just have to come to my webinar! But with lightwater magnetism when it ties into your circadian rhythms then it also ties into how your system works as a whole and you want to have everything in sync and on time and that all starts with You mentioned electrons earlier. And so, electrons from the sun come in these things called photons which is just a little packet of energy and they change with wavelengths and frequency and intensity depending on what time of day it is and what wavelength is coming through but it has an effect

29:41 And actually, it's called the photoelectric effect. Einstein won a Nobel Prize for that in 1921. But nobody knows about that I sure didn't MSM didn't tell me anything about that. And so all that means is that we have an electric effect from those photons whenever it touches something whether it's the leaf of a plant or our or our skin, or our eyes. There'll be an effect on the body physiologically and so when you look at the quantum health model as a whole depending on how your body is being affected by light water and magnetism You'll kind of look that there's a scale of Your gut cortisol thyroid And then hormones and it kind of goes in that order to where if you have optimal health

30:23 Your gut is always going to be number one. And so I'm sure probably from interviews before and some of the people on here that are into health, we've always kind of heard over the last probably two decades about the gut brain axis and that the gut is kind of our second brain. Um, and so really when I did some research what was cool though for every one message that the brain sends to the gut, the gut send back nine So I'm not really sure actually who the boss is there. But the gut is where, wow! Just so much happens there we have our microbiome which has a lot to do with our micro biome as far as good healthy gut flora to be able to digest things but that gut flora also plays huge roles into like our immune system building to be able to fight off viruses and parasites and colds and bad things that we ingest

31:12 You're also going to have your sex hormones that start and produce in your gut. So, your estrogen testosterone progesterone And then you're also going to have your happy hormones that are also produced in your gut. So like, your serotonin, your dopamine... all those things that make you feel good and make you motivated and give you a positive outlook on life. All of that stuff happens in your gut so your gut responds to light as well. Once we get into the mitochondria part of this talk it'll kind of make sense But if your gut is now hidden from the light, so everybody on this call... If your belly has not seen the sun ever then your gut has not been able to respond to all of the good healthy messages from the sun to run on time and be in sync. So once you're got starts having issues which think about all people in the world right now that have constipation issue, diarrhea, IBS, Crohn's disease

32:06 It all starts there and actually your hormone issues and infertility are also all going to start there. And so then the next level is your cortisol, which seeing blue light at night and having your circadian rhythms mismatch it keeps our cortisol levels high So then your cortisol starts to run. We all know that like if you get a lot of anxiety or you just have too much going on and you're feeling really flustered, like that's your cortisol staying high well when that happens usually your blood sugar is increasing as well so diabetes comes in and is involved And it's also gonna create adrenal fatigue which I'm sure there are so many people right now raising their hand saying I'm tired all the time I've been told, I have adrenal fatigue. Well it all started back in the gut so then your cortisol goes well then the part of your body that controls like your adrenals and the part of the cortisol is your thyroid and so then it starts overworking

32:50 And then after that, it's kind of your hormones go to the floor. And so it was very helpful for me to see this model because that's what made sense when I went back to trying to repair my health from Lyme. My hormones were on the floor at 35. My doctor wanted to already diagnosed me as premenopausal and I was like what? Like I'm way too young for that! But seeing this model, it at least helped me realize that with the light even though it's going to take some time to heal and get back to being optimal. It's going to start that in reverse so getting you know the gut right then it's gonna help my cortisol levels balance out which will then help take a break off of the thyroid and then that allows all the hormones to come back on board which has already started occurring in my blood work and in my energy levels for me

33:30 So that's kind of just a brief explanation of how that works and what that looks like. There are probably so many people on this call who know somebody with hormone issues or fatigue, stomach issues... It's a huge problem! And it's an area where they're still doing a lot of research on the microbiome but don't know a whole lot about it yet. But when you learn about the light aspect of it, that's the main key. Your belly has to see the sun. Your whole body actually has to see the sun. That's where it starts for even healing. Right on yeah that's so interesting I mean it makes logical sense that if we have gut issues we would be like well let's pay attention to what we put in our gut because we think of it as like a closed system but we are forgetting about light and yeah, it is so rare for...I mean I know myself. It's rare for my

34:18 got Also, you do have a section of this where you talk about the full electromagnetic spectrum. We all heard Roy G Biv in grade school I hope and we know that the visible light spectrum is only a fraction of the full spectrum. We've done shows before where saunas and infrared have come up as valuable and things people should incorporate into their health. Saunas get weird because they also have a lot of electromagnetic EMF

34:59 fields in this box, you know because it's got Bluetooth. It's got internet for your little tablet there and all these kind of things yeah they kind of are contradictory but what should we say about the electromagnetic spectrum as a whole? It's not just getting red light and of course people talk about vitamin D well that's UVB it's only one small fraction again but the full spectrum is important the times of day that we get light, you kind of mentioned and we've talked about sun gazing before. It seems a little silly there's a documentary out there people like I don't eat i just absorb light at sunrise and it's like okay well i'm not going to get that extreme but maybe you're onto something a little bit yes um but talk to us about the full spectrum of light and why it's so important to get that early morning sunrise and possibly sunset as well

35:50 Perfect. Yes, I'm with you on that too. I love food way too much to be like I'm only gonna be on like an air diet But it is a thing and I get it from knowing the information that I know I could understand why it works But I'm not going to let my, you know, ribeye go for sure. Yes, the full spectrum of light is super important and it's really one of the main things that I want to make sure that people understand when they hear me talk and get this information so yes hopefully people can go back to grade school and we were taught about the full spectrum of light which means the rainbow basically So ROYGBIV was the acronym for the colors of the wavelengths that come from the sky. So, that's red orange yellow green blue indigo and violet now yes you're not going to see all that we don't walk outside and see the sky being green per se but that's the quantum part of it some of this stuff we do not see or feel but it still has that photoelectric effect on us right

36:44 And so with the full spectrum of the sky, it does change throughout the day. Now one thing to say is you have all those colors and throughout the whole day from when sun comes up until sunset, you're always going to have red. It's about 43% always red in infrared light. So you're always going to have red in infrared the other colors of the rainbow, like your green and blues and indigos. They're not going to come up until the sun gets about above 30 degrees. And those are also the spectrums that carry the UVA and the UVB wavelengths that we have. Of course, the UVB is the one everybody is always so scared and worried about with skin cancer. We'll get into that

37:29 But your body is used to having all of those different wavelengths hit the skin and the eyes because we did use to live and work outside. And with getting up in seeing the sunrise, you're only going to have those red and orange and infrared wavelengths. They're very healing if you have had some of the talks already online of saunas, and infrared healing then they've already talked about the power of those wavelengths and why they're so healing to the body but for example they really help with decreasing inflammation hydrating your soft tissue. The talk that you had with Gerald Pollack about easy water, we actually have easy water in our body and around ourselves and that's what the mitochondria also help to make and we won't have time to get into that too much today but there is enough information people can look into that so the infrared light helps increase that easy water levels which is a huge protection for your cells and your mitochondria as well giving you energy

38:26 and hydration for the tissues like a movement so that you're not so tight and dehydrated, and that your body can move with very good plasticity and fluidity. And that's kind of what you're getting from the infrared I mean it can help with so many things growing hair and healing scar tissue and it will heal and help the gut The reason why you want to see at first thing in the morning also deals with our next topic of talking about circadian rhythms which is just our natural biological clock that we have in our body and we have a main clock that's in our brain, the super chasmatic nucleus. It sits behind the hypothalamus and the brain it gets direct information through your eyes so when the sunrise comes up and that is the first light your eyes and skin see its basically telling your body hey! Its morning time to get up

39:16 It's time to start making cortisol and adrenaline and all of our hormones that we kind of need to like get up and get going. It also helps make ghrelin, which is a hormone that kinda helps you be hungry. That's why your stomach starts to growl and why you start to get hungry. And that will also help with like your levels of leptin. We won't get into leptin too much either today because we don't have too much time but leptin has a lot to do with hunger levels and staying satisfied. And if you're leptin resistant, you're going to eventually become insulin resistant which will lead to diabetes so if you are already pre-diabetic Diabetic or have maybe 30 to 40 pounds to lose you're already left in resistant and the best way to reset that is by Resetting your circadian rhythms which the best way to reset that is to see the sunrise first thing in the morning And so I even remember my whole life up to, you know 35 of having lime. I never saw the sunrise right? I was never a person that ate breakfast You know, you'll meet these people they're like oh my gosh I get up and I'm just starving and I'm like, I don't eat till I 1 o'clock

40:18 But it was because I wasn't getting up and giving my body the signal to start getting moving and going. But you know, I've dealt with constipation in my whole life as well if we're just gonna TMI and share. And so immediately what's crazy when I first started changing my light life within 30 days My stomach started growling every day within 20 minutes of waking up and now I wake up and I'm like man I'm hungry And so it's amazing to just see that difference and change. And so the sunlight is what does that, it wakes you up, it starts getting your clocks involved, just like I said, you have that master clock in the brain will then every single one of our systems respiratory cardiovascular muscular skeletal all of them all have clocks that they're running off of

41:02 So you want those to be in sync, right? If you lived in a house that had a bunch of watches and clocks and they were all set To all different times. You'd never know what time it was It would be chaos in your life Right I always use the example when I talk to people have you know That day where you might wake up And your you realize you're like 20 minutes behind on schedule or whatever you had to do that day well What does that whole day look like you're like rushing around and you're anxious and you're frustrated and you get irritated and you Know you probably blow up at people or you don't do a good job because he can't really completely focused And then at the end of the day, you're just like worn completely out. And then for the next day or two even after that, you're kind of catching up because you use all that extra energy of being anxious and stressed out and chaos. That's what's happening in our bodies when our circadian rhythms are not matched and in sync it's constantly trying to catch up. And so it makes sense why we're tired all the time

41:55 Because everything's not working in sync smoothly like it's supposed to. And so the best way to do that initially is to see the sunrise in the morning now, there are still some rules To this they're easy But the sunrise should be the very first thing that your eyes and skin ever see So that even means like not your cell phone Not your lamp by your bed. Not the kitchen light. No artificial lighting you need to get straight outside If you can be naked, and if you can be barefoot grounding on the grass even better like that is top optimal. And we can talk about that with the electrons in exchange of energy so you need that sunrise after that You can kind of go throughout your day and we're going to get into where The green and blue comes involved where you're gonna get that UVB light Oh! Also another thing that sunrise light does when you have all of that infrared red light and orange light

42:46 when your skin is exposed to that light, it helps your body create what we call in the quantum health field a solar callus. And it literally is a natural sunscreen in your body created by melanin that will protect you from the strong UVB that's to come because if you look at any natural there's not many but any of the natural tribes that still live and work outside you know in Africa Arabia some of those places like the Hasdas They don't get skin cancer. They don't even brush their teeth, they don't have cavities you know? They don't get heart disease, they don't get diabetes, they're not fat, they don't get wrinkles and they're outside all the time and they don't get skin cancer so what gives it's the same thing there light in their skin gets that light first thing in the morning and so it creates that protection in the skin to where then when if they do have to be out in the UVB light during the middle of the day is going to protect their skin from burn and from cancer

43:41 Now, if you still watch some of these tribes and if you watch animals in the wild lions and giraffes and dogs they always go out and lay in the sun. Now when it's the middle of the day and very bright and hot there is probably going to find some shade and be out of direct light right? And so that's where you use like discernment and information by what your skin is giving you. When we go out, and you start to feel that tingle and pink reddishness on your skin, your body is telling you like hey it's time I've had enough, I need to put a shirt on, I need to get in the shade or I need to get out of the light completely. Then its just as equally important to get the sunset wavelengths because again that green and blue and violet are going away depending on where you are located in the world or United States

44:25 you're going to get just that red in infrared for a couple of hours. Obviously down south and closer to the equator, you get more of this kind of timeline of the healing light and that's going to help you repair whatever just happened with the UVB light with the blue and green during the middle of the day now when we do talk about like creating vitamin D and creating some of these hormones it does come from the UVB light so you can't You can't just get the morning and afternoon light and not have the middle of the day. And you can't just get the middle of the day, and ignore the morning in the evening your body is used to getting codes and information from the light throughout the whole day to protect itself and be optimal. So the UVB is where the body releases the nitric oxide to lower your blood pressure

45:10 It is where it uses the cholesterol in your body to create the vitamin D. So, your skin still needs to be exposed to that but when we wear clothing, when we wear sunglasses, when we wear contacts, when we wear sunscreen it blocks all of that information from coming in so you could still be outside all the time but if you're wearing sunscreen all the time or full clothing you're not going to be able to absorb those wavelengths and get the nutrients from it that you need And that's why it's just really important to understand the wavelengths and to understand why you need to be out periodically throughout the whole day. protocols for people of how this looks like in the modern world. Obviously, none of us live in a tribe right now where we're outside all the time and don't have like an office to go to or family to take care of. And so we can definitely get into those protocols when the time is necessary but hopefully that is a good explanation of kind of what Roy G Biv means as far as the full spectrum of light and why it's important to be exposed to all of that light throughout the day and the sunrise and sunset are most

46:11 I can't say most important, it's all important. But you get a lot of the healing in the morning and at night and mostly so because you're getting your time codes at the sunrise and sunset for your circadian rhythms like it's morning, I need to make all these hormones that keep me stimulated and then as the sunset comes in then the body goes oh its about to be dark at nighttime, I need to shut down cortisol and all this energizing hormones and I need to start making melatonin to make this person sleepy so we can go sleep and regenerate the body Man, you definitely know a lot about this and you're clearly passionate. And I did want to jump to those protocols or are so many other interesting points on these slides but before this first hour is up, I wanted to jump to the protocols and help people start to use us if they've gotten enough reasons already to start

47:01 How long do we absorb the sunrise? And I know not wearing sunglasses is a big thing. That's going to be a hard habit for me to break, I'll never look cool outside again but i want to know how long do we do this like in a session and then how long would we have to do this like how many days in a row before we really start to feel like oh my god my energy level is a lot better than it was Well, of course most people are not going to like my answer because the answer is going to be it depends. Something that we do need to realize in life is that we're all n equals one you know when you look at research projects We really should start researching on the fact that n equals 1 every single Individual's body is very different physiologically and responds differently And that's because of genes DNA environment where you're located in the country

47:51 Diet, you know all of those type of things number one It's just important to know that you need the Sun and the full spectrum of the Sun every day for the rest of your life so like for me a Non-negotiable is I will see the sunrise every morning now for the rest of my life. I walk my dogs for two miles And it's my little quiet time and connection and I wouldn't give it up or anything now. I love it and But that's just something that everybody needs to know, that you do need that no matter what. Of course there are times with traveling when some of it gets off kilter just like with our diets and our exercise regimes but if you can try to stay focused on the light then you're going to need it every day! Now as far as dosages and timing... To be honest, the more the better but obviously when you're first starting this out most of us have not seen the sun

48:38 in a long time besides like, a one-week vacation where we go and burn the shit out of ourselves. And if we're really really sick... So if you have a diagnosis so like I had Lyme disease now I'm gonna quote Dr Jack Cruz on this because I'm not a doctor but from some of his research and just from working with people for so long on these protocols he says it's going to take you if you get really regimented about changing your light life It will take you about three to four years to get rid of your diagnosis, feel better and get optimal. Like optimal optimal right? And so every person is going to be a little different of when they start feeling better. But I can tell you already that, like I said, even though I did some of the really bad light life stuff for two decades, you know, I had my cell phone in my back pocket every day with no protection seeing the blue light at night never seeing a sunrise eating late. I did that for years lots of copious amounts of alcohol every weekend all the things right?

49:36 So I did that for two decades. Well, already in 30 days of changing my light life, I got hungry in the morning and within six months I could tell like, oh, I've got some pretty good energy and my brain seems to be working better. I can just pull stuff out of my hat now and give advice and do these seminars without looking at notes and things so you do need to know that it is going to take time especially if you are sick, if you actually have a diagnosis or something If you don't and you're trying to just be preventative or maybe a little tired, something like that. These things are going to come probably really quickly for you but it's still kind of amazing to see that the body always wants to heal if you give it the right environment It will heal no matter what And so it will come and you just have to work with it and keep going

50:23 As far as time requirements, when people do have jobs or getting kids off to school just remember that sunrise is always number one. I put it as number one and number two on my little handout because it's that important because that's what sets your circadian rhythms and that's what you need your body to be in sync with Let's say we're in the school season where people are taking their kids to school When you get in your car just roll down the windows open up the sunroof Glass and windows do block most of your red and infrared wavelengths. So that's why most of us are all blue light toxic because even without looking at screens, if we're indoors all the time our modern windows are not letting that infrared and red light wavelengths in so even if you might say oh I've got the blinds open I got light coming in

51:08 You're only getting the blue light spectrum coming through because they want to try to save money on your electricity bill. And so it blocks the infrared and red wavelengths, because those create heat right? So you need to be outside. Even if you're in a car and you need to rush the kids off or you're headed to work just roll down the window! The great thing about light is that those photons expand hugely and so you will get that effect. Now granted optimal of course is outside, buck naked barefoot and you stand and just gaze at the sun. You can get both sides you know? And the sun gazing has actually proven to help heal people's eyesights in eye decline now it's definitely not recommended to sungaze once it gets above 30 degrees and you have the UVB coming in and it gets strong and even when you initially start you got a kind of look to the side of the Sun and just use discernment for you and your body start getting in touch with you and your body well how does this feel how long can I handle

52:02 There is an app on the phones that are free, it's called D-Minder App. And it's a wonderful tool for when you're first starting out with all this of like well but I live in Minnesota or this person lives in Florida or this person lives in California... The dminder will take your location where you are and then also you're able to put in your Fitzpatrick skin type You might be more like Irish bloodlines and be very fair-skinned, or you might have some Latin background and be very dark skinned. And actually it's probably a misnomer of people would think that dark skinned people don't need as much sun. They actually need more sun because their skin has already biologically come with more protection so it's a harder thicker barrier for the nutrients to get through

52:43 And it's why a lot of people like during COVID that had either like, a Latin background or an African American background that might live in New York or Michigan really suffered and they have a hard time with diabetes because they're so far away from their initial genetic coding of being born either in Mexico or Africa or Central America. And so they even have like a circadian mismatch because of being in a different location in the country, which is kind of wild. That's a little bit of a side note. So protocols... You just want to try and get that light usually 15-20 minutes will start making effects again if you're really sick your going to need more time your gonna have to schedule this and put it into your life and make it a habit. Then throughout the day say if you go to work

53:31 You want to come out maybe every hour, hour and a half and sit on the bench or sit outside. And expose your eyes and as much skin as you can to that middle of the daylight as well so that you get that UV for making vitamin D through cholesterol lowering your blood pressure. Then of course you want to see the sunset as well. Again 15-20 minutes at those times would be great in a great place to start but the more you can get the better then on weekends try to make it a little bit more You're not going to be able to handle as much of the UV middle-of-the day light until you get that solar callus really built up. I'm at the point now where I can go through winter and still look tan from the beach because now, I've been working on it for two years so it does take some time

54:14 Equally, which we haven't quite touched on too much. Your days are so bright by getting the sun in the full light spectrum but at night we need to reverse that We need to make our nights dark as possible So again if you think about our ancestors and how they lived outside once the Sun set it was dark They had fire eventually and then they had candles eventually which is healing because candles and fire only give you a red and infrared wavelength, which doesn't disrupt your circadian rhythms. Blue light does! So if you think about our modern lives now... all of your fluorescent light bulbs, your LED light bulbs. They only emit a blue light wavelength and then of course our technology so our laptop screens are cell phone screens, your watches whatever is a text screen is going to only be emitting blue light and So remember with the spectrum blue light only comes out in the middle of the day which you need when you're out in nature And you need to have energy

55:13 Adrenaline going and cortisol going to function and have energy and think right I don't want to make blue light like the bad guy because you do need it during the day You need to understand that but at night we do not need it It is gonna do a complete circadian rhythm mismatch And it's gonna tell your body that its noon or one o'clock when it's really eight or nine, and then that's where people's bodies You know your cortisol stays elevated. Your blood sugar stays elevated so diabetes comes involved gaining weight comes involved And your body's not going to make melatonin. Melatonin is a super important hormone that has anti-cancer effects, obviously makes you sleepy and makes you rest but melatonin aids the mitochondria in your body in being able to make a process called apoptosis and autophagy which just means that our mitochondria goes in and they kind of run like what I like to call it like a dishwasher

56:03 your body runs a dishwasher at night and it cleans damaged cells that can still be kind of helped and healed. And then if there's any really bad malicious cells, which could be considered cancer cells, it's going to kill those, it's going to eat them! So if you can't run that system then your body just stays completely clogged with bad cells and cancer cells and sludge and all the bad things that your body hasn't been able to go in and clean because you just told your body that it was noon So you go to sleep and we have a lot of people with insomniac issues, night shift work. You're like six times chance of getting cancer and higher mortality rates. It's a circadian mismatch because we're under all this artificial lighting telling our body that it's the middle of the day when it's really nighttime. For me for just an example of protocols first thing in the morning

56:53 I'm up, i'm outside. I've got my bare feet. I ground for 5-10 minutes My eyes are viewed right towards the sun. I get this question a lot if you don't have a specific horizon Sun shot because I don't I am out in the country It doesn't matter the light expands so as long as you're just getting that light it doesn't matter that You're actually seeing the exact sun come up from the horizon okay? So don't let that discourage you Then I walk my dogs 30-45 minutes, I'm still outside get some exercise. By the time I come home, I'm usually starving because now my ghrelin and leptin is all in case and I'm hungry. I eat a very protein rich breakfast. And then of course for me, I do work outside so I get a very good chance of going and already being outside working on horses but I am in barns most of the time so I make sure after each horse that I go outside

57:42 or if I'm in my car going to the next barn, I rolled on the windows. I have the sunroof open and I live in southern Louisiana okay it's like 97 degrees with a heat index of 110 right now and I promise you that even through spring summer and fall I am the only person driving around on streets with my windows down and sunroof open most people have it all up with AC on because we've gotten very comfortable but that lifestyle is what's hurting us because we're not getting those signals through the day And so that would be my day. I'll come home in the afternoon and usually all have whatever sunset light that happens in the afternoon as the sun is setting, I usually try to make sure I now eat my dinner before or right at sunset and that's a very hard habit for me to break from eating it you know 839 o'clock That's the one that I'm still really working on perfecting but it does help a lot because then you get that fasting period from five or six or seven o'clock at night all the way until you get up in the morning

58:33 And that allows the body to have the energy to run those programs instead of having food to digest. So, that's an important key part too! Once the sun sets I'm going to come in house and depending on what i have to do at night...I have no lights on in the house at all, no artificial lighting If I do work on my computer or look at the TV for a movie, I have blue-blocking glasses that I've bought and will wear those. You can also put a red screen over your TV. The phone actually has a free method of shortcut both on Androids and iPhones where you can change the screen to red so that's very helpful and it is free

59:10 For your laptops, there's a program called Iris. It's a one-time charge of $40 that stays on that system and it will automatically change your screen colors for at night it will turn completely red so you'll have no blue light that comes through I do have some red light therapy devices that sometimes I'll have on even just to do like a therapy treatment or that I'll just use as light if I need to see something Obviously in the winter time I can use fire. I have a fireplace at my house I've changed all of my bulbs over to incandescent bulbs The United States is actually trying to get rid of those and you can't even get them at like Lowe's and Home Depot anymore. You have to order them online, but at least with incandescent bulbs yes they're going to cost you a couple of cents extra in your electricity bill every month but the trade-off of not getting cancer and diabetes and all the money would pay to heal that problem is certainly worth it in my book

59:59 And then even with my master bedroom, I have the breaker turned off to my room. So there's no electricity running through the walls, there is no lights. I run the AC very cold at night and it's just dark you want to be able to have that darkness to where even two seconds of exposing your eyes to like the refrigerator light or an artificial light is going to give your eyes that signal but it's noon. That's what we don't want to be doing. It probably sounds like a lot But obviously with any new diet or any new habit, or lifestyle that you're trying to put into your life. It's baby steps right? And it's finding the things that you can do again sunrise is number one so if that's something that you can just start with That's gonna at least start getting your body in sync To where you'll have some energy and you'll feel better and then just making the nights dark Everything else that I kind of talked about You can kinda start putting into your life here and there as it gets easier

1:00:54 But sunrise and then darkness after sunset are really the two things that if you implemented that in your life, and only that you will see big changes for sure. Yeah, that's great. And as they say don't let perfection be the enemy of progress like just because you can't do everything perfectly doesn't mean you shouldn't nudge towards improvements in these areas and some changes can seem overwhelming and the range of things that guests have emphasized here over the years as important can also be overwhelming but some of those things from other guests would be meditation a gratitude practice

1:01:35 even automatic writing or prayer or manifestation processes and even day planning. Well, that stuff that kind of mental stuff can happen at the same time as getting up and absorbing the sunrise. And that to me is like in my head I'm looking to do things efficiently. An if I can just get out of bed in the morning and go get the sunlight and also meditate, I'm killing two birds with one stone. I'm getting several processes in place that start the day off right hard to do it naked though you know many of us don't have enough private space for that without getting arrested funny enough if it's illegal to get sunlight naked yeah that's probably pretty surprising people yes so even without protocol then obviously if you can go out and try

1:02:24 as least amount clothed as possible. And then there's also a company called KINIKI, K-I-N-I-K-I They make tan through swimwear They're not... they're not the most like eye appeasing but if you're just wearing them for your backyard You know to make sure that you're getting sun on all of your junk like your breasts and your testicles and your penis and A woman's private parts as well then they're worth it and they're pretty affordable. They're like 30 40 bucks But that's a good way to get out and try to get the sun through those ways as well. And our private parts, just as much as your stomach just as much as your brain, your eyes or skin it all needs to see the sun as well. You know with skin cancer rates it's actually kind of ironic that most skin cancer appears on areas of the body that have not seen the Sun so men will get them on their legs a lot while most men are in pants most of their life

1:03:16 women will get them on their breasts or chest or back. Most people wear t-shirts all the time and so it's very interesting to know that that can occur but it's really from a lack of sunlight not from getting sunlight and cancer, and granted of course when I talked about the wavelengths before Saying that you can't just go get the Sun in the middle of the day and not the morning and sunset and vice versa There's reasons for that because yes UVB light The blue lightweight length all by itself so if you think of like a tanning bed, that only has UVB lights in it it doesn't have the rest of the spectrum. Remember that all day long you have at least 43% red and infrared, which is creating that protection for your skin. If you jump into a tanning bed, you've only got blue. You don't have the red and orange. So just direct UVB light is actually what is dangerous. And it does go back to like how did all this even get started? That we thought that the sun causes cancer? There was one research project done in the 20's

1:04:19 And it was done on UVB light. And that was kind of where they came out and said, okay, you'd be like cause cancer on these rats so we got to stay away from the sun and we get to create the sunscreen market which by the way like 78 of them have been recalled in the last few years for having high levels of carcinogenic ingredients So what happened in that research project is they used mice, and I'm going to kind of cut it down and break it down on how we should be thinking about projects and researchers sometimes and thinking differently. They use mice—well first of all mice are nocturnal and humans are diurnal so there's going to be different physiological effects there to get a really concrete research data done

1:05:00 Number two, they obviously did this project and research in a laboratory. So not outside in the natural spectrum of light so that laboratory is going to have artificial lighting as well back then on top of that they only use A lamp That was a UVB lamp on the skin of these mice They didn't use it with the rest of the spectrum So then of course when the tumors start coming up on these mice and I can say oh They're getting skin cancer from the UBB That's where it all began of saying UVB from the sun causes skin cancer. Well, yes if you had UVB light only on you like a tanning bed and You only went out like to the beach one week out of your whole life and got your ass burnt from Uvb light You've got a pretty high chance of getting melanoma and getting skin cancer However when you're out in nature when the UVB comes out in the middle of day? You still have that red orange and yellow protective light And if you have practiced

1:05:57 and getting in that light in the morning and afternoon, your body has created a natural SPF with your solar callus so that you can be out in UVB light and be able to handle it and not have any type of burning occur. Wow, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. So yeah I like all this stuff and it all does fit together really well and before i let you go i wanted to at least ask you about some of your favorite sources when it comes to people who are looking at health in this sort of way who do you find to be the most inspiring? And maybe people I should look at for following up in future interviews

1:06:34 Yes, well I'll definitely send you a list of some contacts that i've got made up for you for potential interviews but For the audience obviously dr. Jack Cruz is who? I initially got turned on to and have to give full credit for Learning this information and his knowledge Is just incredible I will say that some of the things That he has posted in put out as information there is A little bit more science to it. So some of it can definitely go, it goes way over my head and so It's nice when somebody can kind of break it down into something like what this presentation is and what we've talked about today But he is still a very wonderful source And was a huge pioneer to bringing this to people that would listen and so I would definitely recommend him You can find him on Facebook and Instagram and he has a website Dr. Courtney Hunt

1:07:20 is also a wonderful doctor and facilitator in the quantum health field. You can also find her on Facebook, Instagram and she has a website What's nice about her is she really breaks down this information to make it easy to understand. She also brings in a lot of the esoteric spiritual side of it that I really like, like tying in the Bible and tying in religion to the Son of God being the son and so I really liked that. I also liked that she's very humble. She gets on Instagram every morning and teaches for free while she's hiking a mountain in Arizona And so she wants people to heal just like I do. And just like the rest of us, we don't need to make a bunch of money off any of this or anything. The sun is free and this information is out there obviously! There's been books on sun healing in this therapy but it has been hidden and now forgotten and you know now flipped on its side where the sun is evil and bad. So I really love that she does that as well. I would highly recommend NOW, the new platform Quantum

1:08:15 Quantum Biology Collective, and so that's where I got my certification from. It's a website that you can go to and they have like a membership and it's wonderful because they have a slew of doctors on there with small two three four minute videos That are explaining all of these concepts even with light water and magnetism like the whole quantum health model Where it's very easy to understand using pictures using diagrams? It's a great It's a great introductory way to get your feet wet into all of this information. And obviously videos and learning through visual aspects, I think people do really well with they've also just finished their directory so as far as if you are somebody that's sick and has a diagnosis and you're wanting to get healing, and you now want to work with a doctor that's actually quantum health based, they're going to have a directory now on there where they have doctors

1:09:03 all different industries, you know cardiac doctors dermatologists regular medical doctors eye doctors and then obviously there'll be a directory of people like me that are coaches that you can also get in touch with wherever they may be. And work with them as well so quantum biology collective is a great Avenue to go and get started And then if I can, I'll just kind of plug myself as well. Um, I have an Instagram page where I've been posting pretty much almost daily, just free information on all of this and my website is currently being finished it will be light shapes dot life. And that's where you'll be able to find my personal information, you know a little bit of introductory into quantum health and light shapes life

1:09:46 That's where you'll also be able to find all of my upcoming webinars. I am planning to have a webinar on August 13th after this podcast airs, and so what that will be is kind of a two-hour discussion just kinda like we had but it'll be my full presentation so you'll see the slides and the pictures and get just a little bit more in detail We'll have Q&A at the end where you can come in and ask however many questions that you want And then after that, you'll get the recording sent to you from the whole presentation along with a handout that has references for any of those resources of professionals that I told you about that you can work with. It will also have some resources as far as websites from some of this people that want to say, I wanna see the science, I wanna see the education behind it there will be a long list of some of those articles and links that you can go to learn this for yourself

1:10:36 And then there will also be a list of companies that sell like blue blocking glasses or EMF protection for your phones, grounding shoes all those kind of things. I have some discount codes with each one of those companies so that you can go and get some of those items, you know, some of your measurement meters and things like that to start being able to have this life. Then i'm really open I would love to be able to go and teach this anywhere, whether we do it on webinar Zooms or if somebody wants to bring me to their yoga class. Yoga studio health facility, even if it's a medical clinic. I'll talk to doctors like I don't care I want everybody to know this information and so we could even do retreats you know at You know I don't know We go to Mexico and do a light shapes life Retreat and talk about all of these things and do the sunrise and do the cold plunges together And just start learning how we implement this into our life? and so that's also my kind of like little plug and I do think that

1:11:31 Dr. Buhner would be interesting, he's not so much on the light stuff but he believes in animism which I know your friend Gordon does too which is super cool but just that everything has energy and he teaches a lot about taking care of the planet and along those same lines and he's not going to be around for too much longer And then i'll send you a couple of other contacts that I have on that sheet that people get from the webinar That will help for future interviews. I love it! I appreciate that Man, just so much great information. Sometimes when I have a guest like yourself or guests on diet or health the proof oftentimes is just showing in the conversation and a person's energy level and their recall. So I'm like man my brain does not function at that high level. So often you can just tell that a person really knows their stuff yeah of course

1:12:20 And the promotional material is always the last thing I ask. So it's fresh in people's minds and I'm glad that we did that, and I hope some people are inspired to follow up with that webinar This has just been super interesting. I'm glad we could do it, and I'm glad it came about from a brief conversation in Austin! I hope people learned more than they expected to and are motivated to implement it all so thanks for taking the time keep doing what you're doing take care thank you so much you do the same I appreciate it Serenity Now kind of funny that this one comes hot on the heels of a show about spontaneous human combustion but

1:13:00 We've gotten back to some practical, yet deep advice for living optimally. I thought she really crushed that! I'm glad i kind of took a chance based off a short in-person conversation in Austin but this one eases us back into a series of shows on the tough road ahead obviously we didn't hit that head on but it qualifies because this information is really good for your health and it's cheap and it's easy I certainly felt inspired to start getting up at sunrise and trying to find a semi-private place where i can absorb the morning sun. I get plenty of afternoon sun when I want it, but that's only part of the equation Then you have to fold in getting your artificial light life right and that's probably a pretty radical transformation for the average listener given all the bad habits we tend to get into

1:13:51 We can sit around and rant about how they want us sick, weak and dumb but here's a few major steps anyone can take to start reeling some of that back. And if we do go into a crazy downward spiral as a society well you're going to want to have your health right! You're not gonna wanna have to depend on the system for anything so diet quality water quality light it's all important Have you seen those memes about the UK health minister and the US surgeon general and the head of the World Health Organization? And it says these are the people telling you about your health, and they're all fat and pale and sickly looking. Well I do take that You Shall Know Them By Their Fruits approach when we have a health or even diet guest, and they just seem to have so much energy and vibrancy and good recall on-the-fly for pretty much anything i ask them

1:14:45 That says a lot and the experts in the six system well you can get all you need just by looking at them. In fact if you watched the live podcast with me and gordon from austin one of my favorite parts is when we're talking about health and gordon brought up the point, about the occultist in the whole elemental wheel it really does give you all you need just in that fire is your sunlight water is your structured water Earth is your grounding and air is your EMF environment, and obviously air quality as well. But it's not rocket science here! What was good a hundred thousand years ago is still good today And in the history portion with Jackie I think that was in the Plus show She made a great point about nature's light for the night fire and how it doesn't put off bad UV as opposed to electric light

1:15:37 It made me think about Chris Knowles and Lucifer's technology, you know beneath the hood so much technology seems like some weird dark deal with demons where we sacrifice health independence or freedom for some kind of convenience that oftentimes makes us more lazy and more soft. Very interesting that overall Lucifer's technology concept even shows up in something as random as using fire at night for light versus artificial light. Who would have thought? And she did mention Bill Gates wanting to block out the sun and I was going to save a question or two for that, chemtrails and blanketing the sky to keep sunlight from getting us, that kind of thing...I do think it is happening but its probably best just focus on what we can control

1:16:26 Clearly your light life is still worth working on regardless. The reasons are numerous and I am certainly going to have a building biologist right along the inspector when i do finally find that place to be so, I would say this was a really good solutions oriented show with someone who really has a passion for their material! I loved it As with every episode, the second hour is there for subscribers and today we added a lot to the stack like the effects of light on mitochondria. The importance of redox potential. The deep history of the Light Health Connection and the Suppression Campaign EMF and the importance of a building biologist Modern cars in EMF Apoptosis and autophagy as well as the importance of cold therapy

1:17:18 So come on over to get in the full show and help me keep this ball rolling. Huge thanks to those people who are Plus Members already, it means the world! And I hope you know it's appreciated and that I take the job pretty seriously and always try to be really prepared for the guests we talk too so that you know I don't take this position or your subscription for granted Let's look at the meetup calendar. Hiresidemeetups.com, anyone can make a quick account and get in there and put something local on the books I just ask that all the events are free And that there is at least a two week notice so we have time to let people know about them I did mention some of these but July 30th in Kansas At Sandhills Brewing in Hutchinson, KS

1:18:05 We have a meetup and then also on July 30th there's the New Orleans Meet Up at Dat Dog in Uptown, in New Orleans Louisiana. And July 31st we have one in Colorado Springs Public House at The Alexander so check those out this upcoming weekend! Meet your new friends In early August we have a San Francisco Meet-Up and one in Portland Maine So be ready for those if you're in the area You're gonna want to get in there. It's really easy and we could all use some new contacts before the shit truly hits the fan This meetups calendar is one small way that I can try to help you guys connect with each other out there But that's the show big thanks to Jackie for bringing the heat She does have that upcoming webinar if you really want to dive deeper or you think, you know Some people who could benefit from this information The visual references are helpful no doubt

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