Greg Carlwood on SiriusXM’s The All Out Show

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats Hallelujah Hireside Shatters, how the hell are ya? Drinkin' a little drink. Smokin', a little smoke and gettin ready for another weird ride from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood And as we all know there are many questions left unanswered when it comes to human history and that of our solar system And whether the shadowy elite of today know much more than we do is debatable But either way i doubt they're sharing So were on our own to piece this thing together On that journey its always good idea to use as many tools as we can To see if we cant get some answers to some of these huge mysteries

01:02 And today we're going to examine what can be gleamed from the deepest and most exotic application of remote viewing with my guest Courtney Brown. Courtney is the director of The Farsight Institute, a non-profit made up of highly skilled remote viewers applying their skills to such mysteries as the destruction of Atlantis, the Cydonia region of Mars, the pyramids of Giza major events in the solar system multiple universes, the truth about the events of 9 11 and most recently the true nature have a large anomalous structure on one of Saturn's moons I love what they're doing at the Farsight Institute, so let's take this ride. Courtney my man welcome to THC! Greg it's great to be here thanks for inviting me Yeah this is very cool i only recently found out about you guys from a few listener requests but i think this is such a great idea and genius application of remote viewing Of course we know that military has been heavily involved in remote viewing I've even heard some pretty credible stories of crimes being solved with remote viewing data

01:58 I'm sure there's still some skeptics out there and since everything we're talking about today hinges on the validity of remote viewing, i think we gotta start there. What would you say to people who might be skeptical or unsure if they can trust this type a data to begin with? Well first of all I used live in Missouri the show me state Me too! So it is perfectly okay to be skeptical The big thing about being a skeptic is that your open-minded Now, most people who call themselves skeptics are not open-minded. For example there's a group called PSYCOPS, Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal and in my personal opinion they call themselves skeptic they have a skeptic magazine and so on but in my personal opinion their as dogmatic is to Catholic Church And I'm not criticizing the Catholic Church I mean used be the cantor in the Basilica for years down here in Atlanta

02:55 But the issue is, I mean they are firm believers. They're just firm believers in the opposite side of people who think that there's paranormal or religious beliefs or whatever so they're you know, they're firm believers these so-called skeptics but that's not the real definition of a skeptic The real definition of a skeptic is someone who doesn't take anything at blind faith and likes to see the data, and actually evaluate it. Now people who generally call themselves skeptics are in my view they generally are really better classified as professional debunkers meaning they have an agenda just the same as a fanatical religious person has an agenda they have an agenda to convert as many people and get as many people sold on their bag of stuff

03:47 Well, a lot of people who are so-called skeptics they have an agenda. So they're misusing the term but the proper use of the word skeptic is the way I like to use it which is its proper definition which is an open mind and don't take anything in blind faith and ask to see how what was done? How the remote viewing was done? How the data if anything are actually collected? What we do at The Farsight Institute all of our projects open, meaning we do a lot of projects that are totally public. All our projects are public but we have a lot of projects that are public from the very beginning or some of our science projects actually have public verification of the data collection process for example in our so-called multiple universes project which was an explicit test on the existence of multiple or parallel timelines multiple universes sort of Star Trek type of thing

04:44 Well, we designed an experiment in which the remote viewing was done first. It was way beyond double blind because the target did not even exist at the time that their sessions were being done. Meaning, the sessions were done and then all of the sessions were encrypted there are paper and pen session in those days they were encrypted and they were put on the website for the Farsight Institute and allowed to be downloaded by literally tens of thousands of people around the world

05:20 And then two months later, someone a designated person would be would pick a target and that person would pick a target. And that would be some event or place at the remote viewers were supposed to describe and that target was supposed to have occurred That event was supposed to have occurred after the remote viewers did their sessions but before the person who was picking the target, that's a person called the tasker actually did it. So if we had the sessions done in January some event would happen in February could be anything in the world as long as there is public verification of it like a major news story or something and then in March the tasker would look over everything that happened in the world and just pick one

06:11 And then we would take that and we'd post it on our website, post the password to decrypt the sessions. People could see that the sessions were done in January were a perfect not like vague foggy fuzzy but a perfect match for the actual target that happened in the future of when the remote viewing was done. So we actually had to have public participation and data verification process with that experiment. Now that experiment was published in a leading journal and peer-reviewed journal And it's available on our website and our website is www.farsight, F-A-R-S-I-G-H-T like seeing far dot org O-R-G and there is a if you go scroll down you'll see a link down sort of towards two thirds of the way down saying latest peer reviewed published research and if you click on that you can actually read the article around which that experiment was based

07:10 And so, you know all of our projects we put up 95% of everything that we have on our website including a course in remote viewing that's over 20 hours hosted by YouTube free text and everything is free. Almost everything that we have on the website is totally free there are just a few projects that were recent projects that we actually sell DVDs or video on demand things for and there's actually only four of those projects. The Atlantis project, which you already mentioned is actually available for free on YouTube you can get to it from our website and the four projects that we do actually sell as DVDs or a video-on-demand they required a formal presentation that was like a couple hours long

08:02 The 9-11 project required two formal presentations, meaning two videos that are about 2 hours long to cover all of that stuff. And those types of things are not really a YouTube type of thing so you have to... So we do those through Vimeo with the video on demand and And we also have a DVD for people who want that format. So, those projects are really our most modern projects and one of the things that has changed is...and this addresses the issue of people being skeptical but having an open mind That's different from saying people saying they're skeptical but having a very closed mind

08:47 So, if they are skeptical and have an open mind it's very good to watch some of the videos for our most recent projects. Our most recent one is Aliens on Iapetus then we had one on Cydonia Mars the so-called face on Mars We had one on the 911 events And how The Great Pyramid of Giza was constructed The reason it's good to do that is the videos themselves were done live meaning The remote viewing was done in those particular projects by Dick Allgire, who's out in Hawaii and Des Smith who is out in Britain. And those interviews... I mean those remote viewing sessions were recorded live on video and all the work that we do at the Institute is solo so they were alone in the room, their remote viewers, we had to train them to set up their own camera equipment

09:45 there their own audio guy they had to get everything right and the video quality is spectacular. Got good cameras on both of them so you know what used to be sort of a boring enterprise of watching people draw on paper and pen, and then comparing those drawings to the so-called target thing they were supposed to be describing Even if it was done under totally blind conditions, which all of our work is done under totally blind conditions. It was boring to watch but now that we do everything live on video I have never heard anybody say anything other than it is spine tingling because you as the audience know what the target is because the project's been released But you're clearly watching somebody who has no idea what the target is and is trying to describe it live standing up

10:36 in front of a whiteboard, in a theatrically interesting manner. Now this type of presentation was actually pioneered by Dick Gallagher who was a celebrity newscaster in Hawaii he was the face of the news for 30 years and he was more comfortable in front of a camera than behind it so it was normal for him to say hey look why do this on paper and pen? do it in front of a video camera. So he was the one who really pioneered the way we do it and now Daz does it, and when we train somebody new my son is learning how to do all this as well

11:16 We trained the video component right from the get-go, right from the beginning because it is THE way to do remote viewing. Standing up live on whiteboard recorded live on video and it is absolutely fascinating when you see these descriptions these aren't like vague fuzzy perceptions of a line here or squiggle there These are absolutely spot on exact descriptions of exactly what the target is and its clear that that the remote viewers don't, you can see it with your own eyes. They don't know what the target is but they're describing it and its exact I mean it's at least as good if they were there and saw everything with their physical eyes The reason why I say at least meaning actually better because they can move in time

12:05 If there's a wall, they can move through the wall. They see an aircraft they can move into the aircraft into cockpit so it's actually better but the clarity that they describe things with would not be any better if they were their physically with their own eyes and watching it so they're good now many people can say well you know How can this be? I mean, I don't do this. How can you do this?" Well it's difficult to do this that's why there is only a few really good remote viewers and they trained to do this and it took long time to train how to able to do at that level

12:42 It's very much like playing the piano. So a skeptic can say, yeah but I've never seen it and I'd say yeah great so you've never seen it have you ever gone to a concert and watched Lang Lang play the piano? If you've never seen Lang Lang or heard Lang Lang play the piano You think it couldn't happen like that So, the point is that this type of remote viewing is rare because the normal waking state of consciousness for humans does not have this experience like this. It's a specially trained experience. Normally to give you a basic idea why it so unusual

13:18 is that our brains, our human brains structured via the code of DNA are actually very sophisticated hologram generators. And what that means is they generate images pictures things that we see as 3D reality out of energy at a frequencies you see no physicist ever, has ever discovered anything solid. Ever in the history of anything they say well my planet is real my desk is real my car's real and I'd say no it's not all that is empty space and molecules

14:01 And inside the molecules is empty space and atoms, and inside the atoms empty space and protons neutrons electrons. Inside those and down the rabbit hole it goes no physicist has ever found a solid billiard ball type of anything no particles. In fact, the physicists that are still looking for solid billiard ball type particles are called particle lists and they are almost an extinct species they just are going away so the only thing that a physicist has ever found anywhere in the universe is energy frequency waves now physics is still quite confused about that they're seduced by their

14:42 by the very seductive reality of physical world as it appears to us. But the reality is they have never actually found anything solid, they've only found energy and waves and that means that our whole universe is a frequency-based universe and this gives you an idea of why our why remote viewing is possible? Because the brains are essentially extremely sophisticated hologram generators that screen out all frequencies except the ones it wants you to see. So, it's just like a radio on a radio dial there is lot of broadcast stations broadcasting but you only hear the one station you want to listen to television same thing You turn on your TV all other frequencies are being screened out All other pictures, shows and channels you're only seeing the one channel

15:37 So that's exactly what it is like with our brains. There are a zillion things going on out there and the brain screens out everything except one, and it is seductive! It is so real! And you can say yeah but how could be that real? Well look at flat panel TV, that looks pretty good. In 10 years they're gonna have hologram projection televisions and you'll see Luke Skywalker and Han Solo and Princess Leia standing in your living room as real as you and I standing in our living rooms. So, it's just a matter of understanding how pictures and images, as real as they look can be assembled out of frequencies so one remote viewing actually is is remote viewers train

16:24 to gradually allow, to have their brain sort of let in some of the other frequencies. You actually have to work with the brain to actually get it to allow in some of the frequencies that it normally screens out and then the remote viewers what they do is they learn to focus on those images. Those images are not as strong as a broadcast signal. It's sort of like you're watching a TV and you're watching your favorite show, but then you see like a ghost-like image on top of the show. Does that make sense? Mm hmm it does yeah And so what if you stopped concentrating on

17:07 your favorite show and just started concentrating on the ghost-like image. You'd eventually see a person, they're walking down the street, they're entering a building... What's all that going? That's what remote viewing is like! So you are focusing on something that is normally screened out and you are training the mind to allow that in without being interrupted And so that's why skeptics sort of have a field day saying, laughing and saying this is ridiculous. I don't see it in multiple reality. Well they're just seduced by the convincing seductive nature

17:46 of the hologram that's being generated in front of them by their own brains. But it's really stupid because they're not connecting the dots, which is nothing solid has ever been discovered ever. So now physicists have a problem with this too. They still talk about mass. They recognize that mass equals energy equals mass times the speed of light squared. The speed of light squared is simply a constant, so mass and energy are equal. E equals mc squared. So they recognize that energy and mass are equivalent, they just don't get it. They don't wrap their head around how this reality can exist. For example one famous incident with a physicist and his graduate students, the graduate students were putting all this together

18:30 and saying, well that means that this can't be real. This reality and the physicist, the senior physicist went and stubbed his toe and he looked at his graduate students and yelled at them, we know it's real because that hurts. But you know what kind of science is that? I mean its anyway so... It's a tricky illusion definitely. Its a very tricky illusion and its very seductive but we do now why the remote viewing works actually the physics for why the remote viewing works is fundamentally tied to a revolution in the way quantum mechanics is interpreted. And that was tied back to Hugh Everett, and 1957 who did his dissertation on physics under John Wheeler at Princeton and Hugh Everett was widely laughed at at the time by the leading scholars of physics

19:34 disturbed by the whole thing, he left physics and went into the defense department. And one of those, well, and it was one of the engineers for the nuclear policies of the US government in the world actually this so-called MAD which is a Mutually Assured Destruction Theory but that was actually pretty useful because there were people in civilian life leaders as well as military who are actually in those days arguing for a first strike against the Soviet Union and China, and it was Hugh Everett that convinced them that that was insanity. That you can't blow up half the planet and expect to live yourself. And so imagine if they had actually succeeded? This is sort of Dr. Strangelove sort of thinking back in those days but it actually was being thought about by what we would consider normal reasonable

20:32 people in the sense that they had general status and they were civilian leaders as well. And Hugh Everett was the one who said, look we can do something different let both sides or all sides have their nuclear weapons point them at each other and we'll call that MAD which is crazy but it's mad its mutually assured destruction and that way nobody will launch anything and that was what saved us from annihilation So anyway, that's what Hugh Hewitt did. But it turns out that type of thinking which is called the other worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics that everything is frequency based and there are other parallel universes That type of thinking is now starting to enter mainstream physics took a while

21:26 But approximately, I understand now approximately 18% of all mainstream physicists have thrown out the earlier interpretations of quantum mechanics and relativistic physics and have adopted the other world's interpretation. Now that still means that 82%, which is a large majority still cling to the old ideas which are over 100 years old. The fundamentals of quantum mechanics and relativistic physics have not changed for over 100 years. So you know they're screwed up, nothing in science changes I mean the details are better we have now merged the

22:04 the Copenhagen interpretation with relativity, so we have the standard model. There's been a lot of change, there has been a lot of refinement mathematically but the fundamentals haven't changed for over 100 years So it...the multiple worlds or other worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics really does change everything and Now about 18% of mainstream physicists have adopted that and we're essentially waiting for the older physicists to retire and die off. And then there'll be generational replacement, and that's how Max Planck noted long ago that that's how real change happens in science you have to wait till the old farts die off and then new people who were introduced to these ideas from the beginning they adopt them and that's why

22:53 There's a lag. Yeah, well it's good that they're kind of catching up to you a little bit I think that's a pretty good introduction to remote viewing and the changing view of mainstream physics and maybe we can get into A couple of the projects you've done Maybe let's start with the latest one because this is pretty damn interesting It's called aliens on iapetus which is moon of Saturn Tell us about this And why out of all the strange things in our solar system This one became a priority for you guys Well, when we do projects at the Farsight Institute we always absolutely insist that a huge chunk of the project be totally verifiable. So... We can't do a project if it's just somebody's idea and there is nothing verifiable There is nothing you can actually see Even if its true You cant use remote viewing

23:48 to prove something in the absence of something that's physical that you can compare with. So, remote feeling data doesn't stand by itself alone there has to be some evidence So what we were looking for in this particular set of projects, this is actually part two of a three-part project. The first one dealt with remote viewing the face on Mars on the Cydonia region. The second one is aliens on Iapetus and the third one is coming out mid July and that one is on the famous incident of the Phoenix lights. And so what we needed was something verifiable

24:30 And so with Cydonia Mars, we have really good imagery coming from space probes that are orbiting Mars and sent there by NASA. And they have pictures! So when the remote viewers remote view that spot on Mars, We know a lot of what's physically there because we're looking at the picture and the remote viewers have to describe that exactly but while they're there you know, see other stuff. Like they see that facility, that spot called the face on Mars and then they go into it. Stuff that you can't see in the picture but they give us the entire backstory on it. They go back in time but a verifiable component is what the physical thing looks like right now with barren environment and so on. That has to be exactly correct in order for us to trust the rest of the data or

25:25 to be persuaded that the rest of the data are plausible. So with aliens on Iapetus, that was a situation in which we had a picture that was supplied by NASA using the Cassini space probe, that by the way is still orbiting Saturn to this day, still taking pictures of Saturn and its moons and so on And that space probe took a picture of a crater in which there was something on the side of that crater, on the wall of the crater. That definitely did not look like the wall of a crater. It looked like some buildings with windows on them and it looked like a huge staircase that actually had a very artificial right angle bend to it so

26:16 It was very anomalous in terms of the picture and I said to myself long ago, I had seen some internet chatter on it many years ago. And I looked at the picture and I said, whoa! That's weird? So I just filed it into my mind and the reason that I wanted to keep that as a possible target or project It's because we had a picture. And so, for example believe it or not you know the famous Roswell incident in New Mexico? The so-called crashed ship as many people think that that's really important That's actually a project that we can't do very easily

26:59 because we don't have anything verifiable. I mean, there were some witnesses but they were heavily coerced by governmental authorities to keep quiet You're really dealing with just hearsay what people said and we don't have any pictures We don't have anything that we can compare with the remote viewing data Is a location in time not enough? No because all you'd get was a desert environment And really what you really want Roswell is essentially flat, so what you'd get is flat land. And that's just not enough to go on they just have flat land now on Iapetus it's not flat land It's a meteor crater on a dry barren moon of Saturn and

27:49 and there's no air, so you have all of that information. A, you have an off-world place, there's no air, it's a crater, so obviously impact was producing a crater, and both remote viewers got it exactly. They said this is a crater caused by a meteor on an off world place, and this thing that we're looking at is on the wall of the crater I mean, that's a lot of physical stuff because we can see it in the picture. See? We don't have that for Roswell. Now, I personally think that the Roswell event happened so it's not... It's not that I don't think it happened. It just is that every project even if I think its true lends itself to being good remote viewing project because we have something physical that we have unambiguous evidence from. A friend of mine said well why don't

28:46 do a session on, I made a project on some case where it was some reporter who had talked to some retired Japanese general and reported this. And so the interview took place and the general was real and the general was reporting about some facility Well, the trouble with that is okay, you have an interview that did take place You have a general that was real and you had some reported facility or place The trouble is that building, that facility we don't have anything public. That's sort of known about that we could remove your building there but the general a Japanese general is not enough to go on and one reporter interviewing that so there's a level

29:46 verifiable believability that has to be there for us to pick a target. So, in the NASA and this IAPTIS project we have the Cassini space probe that's an official probe launched by the United States government launched by NASA sent there and it sent back official photographs that are publicly available you get it? That's unambiguous And we don't have to worry about the believability of a particular reporter or a particular general. It's coming directly from the government, so with Cydonia Mars it is the same thing now with the Phoenix Lights experiment you can say well why is that? We don't have you know the same type of thing well we actually have a lot of YouTube videos of the Phoenix lights however

30:43 We can't use those videos as the basis for a video of every remote viewing project because we can never know for sure. I think that lot of those videos are perfectly great, they're exactly what they said they are but we can't know that for sure it could be somebody to just doctor and what if he did a whole remote viewing projects on a particular video that we saw on YouTube, that was done by a private person. Well what if we invest the time and energy and come up with a DVD project? And then later on that person said oh I just concocted that on my computer using video software. You know where are we? The whole thing blows apart so we can't rely on something that's what a person uploads on YouTube however

31:34 There are many videos available on YouTube about that. So collectively, that's there but the Phoenix Lights is different for a big reason The Phoenix Lights were witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people for over an hour and they flew in formation over five states before they settled in over Phoenix And one of the witnesses was the governor of this state, Feef Simington who looked up and saw the underbelly of the ship and said it was the biggest thing that he ever saw flying. It wasn't just like a flare that the government dropped, he saw the underbelly of the ship together with a few hundred thousand other people so... That was an eyewitness report

32:18 that was useful for us to do the project because it wasn't one or two people. It was a whole city that came out and it stayed around long enough that everybody could see it, so it was a big deal. That's unlike Roswell. Roswell may have been seen by 10 or 20 people and then hushed up but The Phoenix lights is different that's hundreds of thousands of people and for a very long time period so that we don't have an official government released photograph but we do have the governor of the state.

32:54 hundreds of thousands of people having witnessed stuff. Plus we have a slew of YouTube videos, now one or two of the YouTube videos may be fraudulent but the general weight of it is all those YouTube videos combined gives credibility to the idea that something very strange was there so anyway that's why we pick our projects A lot of people don't understand why we pick our projects So your question was actually really good And that verifiable element is important. Like somebody wrote to me the other day and said, why don't we remote view the flat earth? Now I've been around this planet a lot you know, I fly to Africa a lot it's a round earth but the whole idea is can you remote view something that's just a crazy idea meaning and remote viewing can be used by itself to prove

33:48 something by itself. So you can't remote view something like an idea like the flat earth, I mean it's just crazy. What about the middle of the planet? Like there are people... Of course a flat earth is definitely way out on the fringes of strange ideas but what about some people talk about their being hollow cavity in the Earth Is there any way you could remote view the center of the planet No because we don't have anything verifiable We don't have a picture, we don't have a government statement Remote viewing isn't, even if the data you get back is accurate it's not very good in remote viewing something where you don't have some foothold of something that's totally verifiable coming from an unambiguous source. So if there is a big cavity in the center of the planet that doesn't do us any good. Now I know a lot people talk about this so-called hollow earth idea It's crazy as far as I'm concerned because our planet

34:44 is without any ambiguity, and this is verifiable with zillions of scientists all over the planet. It's a giant ball of molten liquid rock 8000 miles in diameter and it has an eight mile thin crust on it Now, from one perspective that's very important to know because if you were to pick a planet to live on this would not be it. It is a very unstable planet where the atmosphere is thick and the weather is horrible and gravity is very high And it's a molten ball of liquid lava. And we live on the surface of a balloon, now it's okay for two three four five six eight ten thousand years but eventually the sun is going to burp in our direction with a coronal mass ejection

35:37 and the jelly that's on the end of the earth is gonna quiver, and when that quivers, the crust is gonna crinkle. And we will be brought back to hunter-gatherer stage." So this has been documented to have happened a number of times on a regular basis. One of the authors of this theory that civilization has rose repeatedly and then been crushed basically because of solar phenomena is Robert Schock, S-C-H O-C-H and he's a tenured professor at Boston University. And he wrote a book recently called Forgotten Civilizations and he goes through the idea the whole process of... The evidence that civilization has in fact lived and been around lot longer than three to five thousand years. And that it basically gets crushed, it gets ground down into a pulp

36:28 And that's what kind of planet we live on. So when people start telling me about the hollow earth idea, I'm saying boy if they only knew the reality it's not only not hollow but its a ball of jelly and there is no way you're going to have a cavern in the middle of a ball of liquid rock or in the middle of lava and no one would build a cavern in the middle of a ball of liquid molten lava. I mean... Sounds pretty risky! It's crazy, and so now that doesn't mean that there aren't

37:05 large underground facilities that can be a mile deep, two miles deep. Yeah wasn't there Pat Price was a remote viewer who if I remember correctly one of the things he thought he saw was four underground bases with cooperation between humans and an alien race that's pretty interesting remote viewing right there It is and I'm sure that type of stuff is there but that's a whole lot different than hollow earth which is like a balloon, it's empty we're only on the surface of it. And so that is actually very believable and very interesting that we could have caverns underneath

37:45 you know, a mile deep or two mile deep. But you're still talking about activity within the solid crust. We're not talking about going into the core of the planet. In fact we did one project called the so-called Atlantis Project which is available for free on YouTube and you get to it from our website farsight.org where we describe The civilization that built two what are now underwater anomalies, which is a large city on the bottom of the ocean three miles west of... I'm sorry. Three miles deep and 1,000 miles west of Portugal and Morocco And that used to be a huge city Huge city! And it's under water now

38:34 And there's another set of anomalies similarly underwater down near Antarctica. And we did remote feeling projects on that because they had very clear Google Earth imagery, of those anomalies. Right. What it turned out to be is 70 thousand years ago our civilization had a technological level that was a little more advanced than what we are today about 100 years more advanced than what we are today And they had a secret science project that they were doing at the time, and that was to bore through the crust of the planet to get to the heat below. Now they thought they could control it And they literally, it wasn't just like a crack in the crust that little lava seeps through. This is huge major boreholes like the channel connecting Britain and Europe or the Holland Tunnel and Lincoln Tunnel I mean in New York area. I mean this is huge bore holes going right through the crusts and they thought they could control it

39:32 And they didn't. What happened is they popped the balloon and there was a huge explosion, an explosion you could have seen from Mars or Jupiter I mean you could have seen it on Earth from long ways away It was that biggest explosion you can imagine And what happened is they popped the balloon and when you get a balloon and release a lot of pressure like that That happen down here in New Zealand area And it happened, we do know for reasons I can get into if you want. It happened 70 thousand years ago and what it did is created a dent in the antipode The antipode is the exact opposite spot on the planet and what happens when you release pressure on one side The opposite side goes in, dent, and that antipode for the explosion area

40:25 is exactly, not approximately but exactly where the anomaly is under the ocean three miles deep 1,000 miles west of Portugal and Morocco. So that tells you that Europe 70,000 years ago used to extend at least a thousand miles west of where it is now. Now that explosion, mainstream science knows there was an explosion they like to refer to it as the Toba catastrophe theory which references Lake Toba in Indonesia where they think the big blowout happened They're in the general right area. If you look at the globe, Lake Toba in Indonesia is actually in the general area but they didn't get it exactly The exact area that blew out was a little bit closer to New Zealand which is not far away

41:14 from Lake Toba and it's New Zealand, and that spot has the largest concentration of lava rock on the planet. And also the thinnest crust on the planet. That's where the blowout actually occurred. The project was being controlled by the facility in Antarctica that is now under the water but actually much of it is under the water some of it is still on land. By the way this also tells you why the government is so keen sending research bases to Antarctica, you know under very extreme weather and harsh conditions. They're not in the slightest bit interested in digging up mastodon bones they want the tech they know that there's tech under the ice and that's...that's the whole purpose for all of these exploratory digs going on in Antarctica The Tech! There is lots of Tech there Oh yeah I'm with ya'

42:14 Yeah, so anyway that's what goes on there. And for people who are doubting well you know I don't know how much to emphasize this but the government's main motives Moda sabrandes, it's the main way of working is through secrecy. The government has never spilled the beans on all types of stuff they keep things secret and maybe if some person feels good about releasing stuff they'll release it 50-60 years after the fact but secrecy is what it does uh...the military does secrecy, the government does secrecy so if you're saying how could all this be? You've just been seduced by

43:03 an organization whose job is to keep secrets. And so you don't look at the organization to get you out of the hole that you dug yourself, look in the mirror and yeah, look in the mirror. Well said yeah I do not think anyone would argue with you on that. So let's talk a little bit about the details of this Iapetus structure when they looked at it Yeah! I loved that documentary when they looked at modern times of course they see ruins which don't really surprise anyone but when they went back into the past they found some really interesting things about this strange structure at the top of this crater on one of Saturn's moons. Can you tell us some details about what they saw that it used to be?

43:44 Yeah, this is actually one of the most interesting projects that I've ever seen done with remote viewing because when you think of an alien facility, you normally think of a military base. You think of a spy base. You think of a mining operation. You think of an industrial operation. This was none of that. This was... Well let's put it in human terms We have people like Richard Branson who runs Virgin Airlines. We have people like Bill Gates and we had people like Warren Buffett, those are rich people and rich people do a lot of funny things with their money for example Marlon Brando took some of his money and bought himself an island he wanted an island so okay he got on Iso they they do funny things with their money

44:36 There was somebody in our solar system, in the ancient past. We're talking really ancient past who is far richer than Richard Branson Bill Gates Warren Buffett and he also had the technical ability to fly to places like Iapetus so let's say it came from Mars for example he had the ability to get there obviously quickly, like in an hour or two. So they weren't using chemical rockets here we're using the propulsion systems that were common to whatever those systems are called that are common to say UFO's that we see so what he did was he built... The only way you can really describe it is like it is a most luxurious vacation spot hotel resort hotel type thing that you can imagine

45:33 It is a combination hotel resort, health spa communal retreat all wrapped into one. And what basically happened there is that the wealthiest of the wealthy the elite of the elite would go there for purposes of personal growth and if you think about it that location on the wall of the crater in Iapetus is arguably on the most beautiful location on the planet Earth, on the solar system. It's on the moon of Iapetus with all this stark harsh surrounding terrain it has no atmosphere so you're talking about a completely unfettered

46:26 star field and right above you, right above you have the rings of Saturn and Saturn itself. I mean can you imagine a more beautiful spot? You've seen if you do Google pictures of Saturn and its rings, you see a lot of pictures of Saturn it is a beautiful planet to look at through these pictures that you see And imagine if you're right underneath the rings on a moon of Saturn, on Iapetus looking up. It was absolutely the most beautiful scene in the planet and on the whole solar system and in terms of talking about sort of feeling a communal concept close to God or whatever

47:17 the universal source of life or whatever. I can't imagine a situation that would be more inspiring to people, well this guy built this facility to capture all of that and everything had to brought in nothing can be grown on Iapetus of course so everything water air food everything had to be brought in they had help staff like hotel staff but the people who were actually there enjoying their facility They were the richest of the richest, elitist of the elite and then this was going along fine. And then we have a lot of indications from other projects as well that there was a war in the solar system something happened that really disrupted everything and this war ended it for that facility on Iapetus. The people that were on Iapetus

48:16 couldn't get off. They was either they didn't have the ships because the ships had already taken other people and no new ships came because of the war, or they had the ships but had nowhere to go with the ships meaning the war had devastated everything Now we know from some of our other research that there is strong evidence of a war for example The asteroid belt We did a full project on the origins of the asteroid belt And you can see that on our website too, under the link in the nav bar called exploding planet. We investigated the dual theories that the origin of the asteroid belt was because of a planet that was once there and then exploded or it was what mainstream science says, the refuse of the junk that was left over from the primordial solar nebula

49:14 Well, there's not a shred of evidence that supports the solar nebula idea. But Thomas Van Flandern, a very mainstream scientist who was head of his department of celestial mechanics at the Naval Observatory he had amassed a huge amount of planetary data that clearly indicated that the asteroid belt came from a planet that exploded for whatever reasons Now, there's a couple of big things that are obvious. I won't go through all the data that Thomas Van Flandern discussed although I do mention some of that in the video presentation that is available on the web for The Exploding Planet but the basic sort of big thumbs that stick in your eye are the asteroids or big rocks like Ceres asteroid they're huge, huge rocks

50:10 You can't get large solid rocks like that out of the primordial solar nebula. The primordial solar nebula is dust, and dust gets attracted to a gravity source and the gravity source then compresses the dust into big rocks So you can't have rocks by themselves coming out of the primordial solar nebula. They have to have a gravity source to compress them first, and then you can get a rock! And so these big asteroids can come from dust. Dust doesn't form into rocks yet without the gravity source. Secondly, the surface of the asteroids show tremendous... very obvious evidence that they've been exposed to extreme glazing heat

50:59 a strong heat source, and so because of melting glazing on the surface. So that's another indication that whatever happens blue was involved in a strong energy event And so what basically happened from other projects and many of the projects, even the Cydonia project they all sort of touch on this event in our solar system that included this major war. And Iapetus apparently touches on that as well that there was some war and that did it for Iapetus So the people that were on that facility they died there They ran out of food

51:42 They ran out of water, they ran out of air and I'm assuming that if we went there today the remote viewing data does suggest that some of the power generators that they have are still operating but in power down mode. They're at very low rates and so we'd actually go into the facility and we'd probably find the dead bodies of the people who died there. The bodies of the people who died there, or maybe that are maybe the dust of their bodies but they're still there I'm assuming unless somebody went in and cleaned it up but why would you clean up something like that? It's the facilities typically things like that are just left an abandoned so it's a very interesting historical thing because it doesn't fit into any of the normal categories of military base by base

52:34 industrial facility or mining operation. It's something completely new, completely different. A rich person's whimsical idea of a place to commune and he built this thing And you could only do such a thing if you had really what we would consider unlimited wealth. But, we just have to assume that in the distant past there were some people like that. We have our Bill Gates and Warren Buffets so given enough money they start thinking about well what am I going to do with this stuff? one of the viewers, the way he put it that I really liked is kind of like it was. He was seeing an extravagant building in a wasteland similar to like a space Vegas because Las Vegas of course is super extravagant way out there in the middle of the desert and this was kind of like uh, this, a similar type thing or really extravagance structure made out in basically the space desert of Iapetus. And I found that really fascinating and good way to put it on the subject of the rings

53:37 Being able to see them from the surface, that's really interesting. And one thing they both noted that I liked was this structure kind of like the St Louis Arch but leaning real severely like the Leaning Tower of Pisa Yeah and I thought that was interesting because at least here many of the ancient sites are built to form certain alignments and being that close to the rings of Saturn and having that shape I wondered if it wasn't built to kinda capture some type of ceremonial alignment in the ancient past Actually, Greg you're raising some really great ideas. The idea of that sort of like the St Louis arch tipped on its side... The thing that's so interesting about that is when you look up That's exactly what you see with the rings of Saturn You'll see an arch tipped on its side right overhead and this Arch that they had it was sorta tipped on its side

54:32 It sort of makes sense given the ring structure of Saturn. So it's a really great idea that you raised, also the example that you raised of Las Vegas I mean that was a brilliant example, that is exactly it as luxury right off the scale in the middle of a desert Those contrasts are what make something so interesting. Those huge, unbelievable contrasts but yeah that arch type thing that was so clearly described on its side in fact for the first time you've actually explained why that arch thing would be on its side it would parallel the ring structure which is right above

55:25 Yeah, yeah I thought that was so awesome because he doesn't really know what he's looking at and then he sees this thing. And it fit pretty well! Yeah and you know when they describe this thing and draw pictures of it I even have to pinch myself. I've been doing this for a long time, but even when I see these data come in on our projects, I had to pinch myself because here they are both remote viewers, Daz Smith and Dick Allgar, they're both saying this is a meteor crater what's this doing here? And then they describe the terrain exactly harsh barren terrain with no vegetation. It's exactly... They're doing it totally blind. They'd have no idea where I sent them

56:09 And then they say, and what's this thing on the wall of the crater? I mean how in the heck were they supposed to know it was on the wall of the crater. So for those people who are open-minded but like to be shown the evidence such as a people from the good state of Missouri, the show me state that's what true skepticism is meaning watch them with your own eyes and say how did they know that thing was on the wall of the crater? I see it in the photograph but they didn't know that And so that's really, really off the scale in terms of interesting. And when they draw the picture of it and where it is on the edge of the crater... It's not like an approximate sort-of but you have to sort-of

56:53 Forgive them for getting it 50% right or anything. It's nothing like that, they got the whole thing exactly right just the way it is there and so when they start coming in with a new data which is not on the picture for example when they go back in time that becomes believable at least very persuasive because the stuff they got for what it looks like now is so spot on accurate with respect to what you see in the picture. By the way, I should mention Greg that we've just covered now a major reason why for Farsight projects we have to have that verifiable element because its accuracy for the verifiable stuff everything else depends

57:40 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So we are getting kind of close to the end here You've done so many high-profile targets already I'm kind of curious outside of or beyond the Phoenix lights Is there anything else on your list for the future? Do you guys gonna be taking a look at well in the old days? I would simply lie to you But now I I've been caught at it so many times. I just sort of tell people It's obvious We can never tell our future projects. The only reason I can tell you the Phoenix Lights is coming because the remote viewing's already done. Everything that we do has to be done under totally blind conditions, totally. There can be no leaks so if anyone ever asked me are you going to this or are you going to that? I would always say under no circumstances never would we touch that in fact for years i told the remote viewers and radio hosts that we would never touch 9-11 We knew the government didn't want us to do it, its a hands off were not gonna touch

58:37 And it was at a time when I thought everyone believed me that i said now's the perfect time to do it. So you know, that's the only time my officially lie when someone asks about a future target because as soon as you say that you might do a target that target cannot be done. You don't want to influence the actual reviewer? It's garbage, it would be a public scandal no less and everyone would point out you talked about it on this radio show so obviously remote viewers knew that was coming and they got the data there

59:14 I mean it would totally corrupt everything we do. So that's one question, I have never been able to address truthfully so the only thing i'm telling you now that is different from the past is...I am not going to answer the question rather than give you a story about this. Normally what I would do is, I'd wait for them to ask me are you ever going to do this or are we gonna do that and then i would definitively say no under no circumstances will we ever do that yeah even if but in fact I may be planning on doing that so Yeah, you gotta preserve that integrity which I respect. Well wow man this has been really fascinating we covered a lot of different projects you guys have done super awesome and i'm glad to see this project happening is would like to remind the people one more time where they get the full details on some of these things before we go?

1:00:03 Yeah, everything's on our website at Farsight.org. And please when you go there please sign up for our free newsletter just put your email address in that's the only way we have to connect with people and we actually are... We actually have a very active YouTube channel as well, which you'll hear more about on our free newsletter. So if you get the newsletter, you'll be connected to our YouTube channel as well. So YouTube's really helped us to boost up the professionality of our YouTube channel so it's a really well organized and a ton

1:00:45 free information. We have lots of trailers for all of our projects, all our major projects and we designed this trailer to actually be windows that are behind the scenes so they're not just promotional stuff it's actually windows behind the scenes of... So they give you all types of extra information about stuff going on that is not in the documentary It is fascinating just go through all the so called trailers but really behind-the-scenes type things Well man thanks again Courtney this has been great and I wish you guys the best of luck out there keep doing what you do and take care yourself. Yeah thanks Greg for the interview and i appreciate very much

1:01:25 Rock me like a hurricane people, there we have it. Definitely an interesting idea I do wish we could have gotten into more detail about the results of these projects but it was a good time and if you woke up today not knowing about the Farsight Institute I think its at least something to make you wonder. I really do think remote viewing is legitimate practice but it's tough for layman to understand what limitations such tool might be place my bet on there being some type of ruins on the moon and Mars, and I guess now...Iapetus. And even if they are there all we can really do is guess as to why? And at least now we have a group who's trying to dig deeper in a more substantial way We did talk a little bit about the Atlantis project and the Mars project in the first hour but in The Plus Show we got more into the Sidonia study and the face on Mars As well as the Pyramids of Giza Project and the 9-11 sessions

1:02:16 All great applications of remote viewing if you ask me. Maybe the Atlanteans did usher in their own demise? Maybe some ancient extraterrestrial tycoon did build an intergalactic space spa retreat center on a desert moon of Saturn? Either way, I'm glad the Farsight Institute is out there keeping things interesting! And that's another one in the bag! As always, thanks for listening. I'll see you soon with something new and as for adding a few more pieces of the big mysterious puzzle of life, the universe and everything...I think i did my part today! Your move, builders of the elaborate space Vegas of Iapetus. Your fricking move. Sweet dreams to the elite We're calling them out on THC Uncovering secrets and conspiracies Everybody's looking for something Some of them want to use you

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