F. William Engdahl | The Lost Hegemon, The Oligarchs’ Decline, & What Comes Next

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00:43 Alright folks, we've watched the think tanks of the military-industrial complex and the shadow government behind The American Machine march all around the world on their quest to remain superpower supreme. But after years of staging coups installing puppet regimes and pillaging the resources of poorer peoples nations are wising up to the same old game And for better or worse the world seems less predictable than it has in decades maybe even centuries Well, lucky for us today's guest F. William Engdahl is just the guy to help us unravel the tangled web that got us here and help us understand the landscape going forward in these troubled times William is a strategic risk consultant, professor and lecturer who holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is the best-selling author of several great books including Seeds of Destruction The Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation A Century Of War Anglo American Oil Politics And The New World Order Gods Of Money Wall Street And The Death Of The American Century just to name a few.

01:39 His latest is called The Lost Hegemon, Whom the Gods Would Destroy and it details the fizzling plans of the American Shadow State and the history of Middle East manipulation that paved the way. It's filled a lot of holes in my understanding of this complex saga I don't know how he does it but its a real treat to have him here William Mingdahl welcome to The Higher Side Thank you, Greg. Good to be here with you. Yeah man thanks for doing it! You've had such an impressive career and you've tackled many pieces of the big puzzle but tell us about The Lost Hegemon why this title and topic for your most recent book? To come up with the right title where I felt the good energy took me almost a year

02:18 I had several working titles, but I wasn't satisfied with them. And finally it hit the lost course everybody knows a hegemon is the dominant power in the world political calculus so the British Empire was the hegemon from at the end of the Napoleonic Wars and 1815 The Battle of Waterloo until the First World War more or less and after 1945 America was the hegemon the power that be and they proclaimed it, Henry Luce the chairman of Time Life Magazine a famous essay in 1941 in Life magazine called it the American century. The dawn of the American century. Now 1941 US had not even militarily entered the war that would take three more years but they already through the Rockefeller Foundation grants to Council on Foreign Relations They had a secret project called The War and Peace

03:14 studies where they were getting America's leading geopolitical minds from Johns Hopkins University, the president of Hopkins University Isaiah Bowman who was calling himself America's househoffer. Househoffer was Adolf Hitler's geopolitician who worked out the Leventhron strategy for moving to the east, taking Russia and everything in between. And they proclaimed the American century and of course that is what happened after 1945 with atomic bombs Nagasaki and Hiroshima That, by the way was not aimed at the surrender of Japan. That was aimed at Stalin to tell him we're the boss on the block. We are the hegemon. This is the American century and not some peace and harmony between two wartime allies so-called were the boss here. So it's a little bit of a double cross on many sides

04:08 And the hegemon, the lost hegemon is how I would describe the United States and it's...I don't know whether to call them oligarchs or patriarchs. The David Rockefellers, the George Soroses I don't want to dignify them by calling them an elite because they're beneath contempt as human beings, but they're in oligarchy of sorts. Let's call that for a working title and They are beginning to lose it everywhere So that's the reason for the time of The Lost Hegemon And if you look at the cover of the book You can go on Amazon just Google in The Lost Hegemon

04:47 And you'll see next to the title, the title by the way is a graphic designer friend of mine did beautiful concept on this. You can barely read it. It's gray on white but faint gray on white because it's fading away the power and ability control is disappearing from it. And next to it, there's a tattered flag allegedly recovered from the rubble of the World Trade Twin Towers or Three Towers on September 11th 2001. Let's say that was that flag but its a flag almost virtually destroyed and that kind of describes the state of United States as America as world force for good or for anything really right now

05:27 And the book itself, Whom the Gotham Would Destroy documents the history since the 1950s. of the perverse marriage between the American intelligence, especially the CIA or SS during war but right after the war in Munich Germany. The CIA and something called the Muslim Brotherhood. If you look closely behind the surface of the so-called Arabic Spring when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State You will find that Hillary Clinton and Biden, her right-hand honcho who is a Muslim Brotherhood woman by the way were trying to install Muslim Brotherhood regimes that the CIA controlled since the 50s

06:13 in all of these key states, Tunisia and Egypt. In Egypt they actually got Mohamed Morsi a brother to be president for a few short months before the military kicked him out unceremoniously but they were trying to do that all over the Middle East because then they would be able to control all of the oil, all of the gas, all of the pipelines but the lost hegemon is losing it everywhere! That's really the message of the book so its unique, in my view I've never seen a book that approached it quite this way. It's a unique look at this completely hidden secret relationship between the Muslim Brotherhood when Miles Copeland the Cairo station chief of the CIA by the way he talked with me before his death as an investigative journalist about 20 years ago on some of these but he brought them into Saudi Arabia and convinced the Wahhabite Bedouins to run that crazy country

07:10 that the Muslim Brothers would be good, devout Sunni traditionalists who could help teach in the madrasas and universities and be intellectuals and give these camel driver Bedouins a little bit of gravitas. Well, in fact what they gave them was Saudi money, oil money and built a network worldwide in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, in the United States even and so forth of what today is Islamic terrorism. And Al-Qaeda came from that. Osama bin Laden was run into Afghanistan at the end of 1970s early 1980's by the CIA to recruit jihadists, psychopaths you know in the name of Allah

07:57 murder and kill Russian communist soldiers in Afghanistan. So, and you can trace it right up into ISIS today into Al-Qaeda in Syria called al-Nusra which John Kerry and the Obama administration is supporting as the so called moderate opposition to Assad So that whole game has been blown up, and it's all about oil and gas pipeline control. So the lost hegemon... The interesting point about the book is they're losing it! They lost on Brexit Thursday night into Friday morning Great Britain exited the European Union. A majority of British population voted to leave this obscene construct called the European Union

08:44 which is no union at all. It's a top-down, anti-democratic control of the European oligarchs and the US very much in there. So that's in short that's the message of the book but it's using the mask of religion to control world energy flows and that's Dick Cheney's agenda right up until the present day by way Yeah it is a great book I needed something like this, something that could unravel the history of the Muslim Brotherhood and its connection to the American Empire because a lot of people talk about it but not a lot of people know the details. You say in the book

09:20 A quote I liked is that, "...it was a secret society that became known as the Society of the Muslim Brothers. That Muslim Brotherhood survived into the 21st century as the most powerful organized force in the Muslim world...its origins were as revealing as they were alarming." And maybe you can elaborate on those origins in this context? Was it always from the beginning? Was this part of the plan or was something formed later? Well, British intelligence MI6 back in the 1920s when Hassan al-Banna a modest school teacher from a village in Egypt not exactly the kind of person you would imagine who would create an organization that is almost perfectly modeled on the military

10:03 hierarchical structure of the Society of Jesus of the Jesuits and similar organizations, ESS in Nazi Germany. You wouldn't expect that he would have this kind of sophistication so maybe had a little help but let's take the surface story Hassan al-Banna in 1927 28 created a secret society in Egypt They had shifting alliances. On one level, they were the good devout extra obedient true Muslims but the deeper side is they were a death cult. Al-Banna wrote in his special writings for all of the members that to die in the name of Allah is the greatest good

10:49 you know, to kill in the name of Allah is the greatest good. So right away you kind of get the idea they're into the death business big time which they are and were and it's... You know, you go our way or you take the highway we're going to kill you And they were forced underground in Egypt in the 1950s when uh.. They tried to assassinate the president of Egypt Gamal Abdel Nasser and he didn't take to that too nicely, so they were forced into the underground. And conveniently the CIA, Miles Copeland whom I mentioned earlier smuggled them into Saudi Arabia and there began this perverse marriage as i said before between Wahhabism fundamentalism from the 1700s of the deserts of Saudi Arabia This pre-medieval you can't get more backward than these camel herders of the Bedouins

11:48 And they married that with a militant, you know, evangelical Islam political Islam that had an agenda to take over and create a world caliphate. So it has in the end nothing to do really with religion or really with Quran or whatever it has to do with power. And that's what the CIA found so fascinating even before the CIA got ahold of them they were in exile during World War II in Berlin now if people have any understanding of history, and I say that very carefully nowadays because in the schools of the United States subject to world history has been all but obliterated. And that's a very dangerous trend

12:32 In World War II, in the 1940s and the 1930s Germany was ruled by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party. The regime of terror was carried out by Heinrich Himmler and his SS Stufenschutz. They were Hitler's bodyguards but they were the elite torturers and killers in the concentration camps and all the occupied territories And the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a Muslim brotherhood, close friend of Al-Banna. He came into exile from Egypt into Berlin ran the Arab language broadcast radio in Berlin which was most powerful radio transmitter in the world at that time going right to Middle East preaching hate against Jews

13:25 Himmler was a softy compared to the Mufti of Jerusalem in terms of, Himmler wanted to make a deal to sell a certain portion of Jewish population from one of the Eastern European conquered countries. I think it was what used to be called Yugoslavia but he wanted to sell them and get some money for the Third Reich and Albana said no you must kill every last Jew Wow so this is sweet side of the Muslim Brotherhood. And after the war, as I say many of them had been fighting for Hitler against the communists in Eastern Europe and so forth and they returned to Munich Germany and the CIA station chief at that time discovered this old Nazi network and the Nazis who used to run it East Abteilung, Ost-Abteilung

14:20 And they began recruiting them for radio liberty broadcasts in the Muslim populations of the Soviet Union, which are quite vast. And that began this long-term relationship between the CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood Yeah, it is fascinating and the book does a great job of laying it all out. And this is essentially when you get up to 9-11 I mean this Muslim Brotherhood, this alliance was very useful and another important stop on this timeline Is the onboarding of bin Laden in the 80's can you talk to us about that partnership? Well Bin Laden was the scion or

15:05 descendant of one of the wealthiest construction families in Saudi Arabia. They built all the palaces for all the royals, and that's a lot of construction contracts if you know how the royals live in Saudi Arabia. And Osama bin Laden was recruited by the head of Saudi intelligence to go to Pakistan not Afghanistan. Zia ul Haq was the dictator of Pakistan he was fanatical jihadist Islamist and a cutthroat killer of the first sort. You couldn't get more reactionary than him, but he was put in there with support of the US State Department and CIA. And Osama bin Laden was sent to the border on the Pakistani side of Afghanistan to prepare a plan that was developed by Zbigniew Brzezinski when he was security advisor to Jimmy Carter in 1979

16:06 He said, if we do this right we can induce the Soviets to militarily come in to stabilize Afghanistan and that will give us the excuse to launch a major Vietnam against the Soviet Union. Which is what happened of course took eight years, the biggest covert operation in CIA history but finally in 1988 Moscow threw up the white flag and said, we can't handle this anymore. The oil prices collapsed on the Western markets and we can't support this war in Afghanistan anymore too many Russians have died so the Osama bin Laden story is he was brought in to be the recruiter for Saudi intelligence and for US intelligence

17:04 of what would become the Mujahideen, meaning the holy fighters. And Al-Qaeda was the name given to this organization it means in Arabic The Base and The Base was the database all these recruits many young Saudi psychopaths many from Pakistan all sorts of different Islamic countries. And they were sent in to Afghanistan to run terrorism against the Red Army Wow, man you really break it down well and you know I personally am always interested in what's going on outside of the Western machine and hearing about some of these other groups angles in the big story when it comes to western opposition You write about the Shanghai Corporation organization Which I doubt many listeners will be too familiar with can you elaborate on that alliance in their function a little bit? Okay This was created around 2001

18:09 by China and Russia mainly to create some kind of structure once the Soviet Union dissolved all these Central Asian former parts of the Soviet Union Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan all the stands. They were being targeted by the CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood for the CIA. And they're all heavily Islamic regions of the Soviet Union, so they were very vulnerable to this same template. They worked because some of these are Turkey-Islamic cultures. They worked through an organization that the CIA created and controlled up until the present called the Fatuha Gulen Organization out of Turkey

18:59 Someone documented that there were no less than 500 CIA agents across Central Asia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and so forth in the early 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union masquerading in schools of Fetuda Gulen madrasas and schools of Gulen as native-speaking English teachers. Russia caught on to this because the CIA was bringing these Mujahideen over through Air America flights into Azerbaijan where they wanted to control the oil for British Petroleum and ARCO, and then onto Chechnya where a Russian pipeline would have brought the Baku oil

19:43 into the world market through Russia that was an old existing pipeline and The US would have none of that they wanted to control the oil in the former Soviet Union. So They brought him the Mujahideen into Chechnya and created an unholy mess there jihad, and under Yeltsin the response was chaotic under Vladimir Putin, toward the end of the 90s. It was settled rather brutally and rather quickly but that was an American Muslim Brotherhood attempt to destabilize what was left of Russia and just break them into pieces. Fortunately for for the world today it didn't succeed. Man you're great at giving us that hidden context to world events

20:33 Now, because the Clinton dynasty never seems to really go away and they might be getting another run at the White House. How did we see the Muslim Brotherhood relationship used during the Clinton year? Should we expect more trouble in another Clinton presidency? Oh God forbid Hillary Clinton ever steps foot in the White House again! God forbid it I mean that with respect This person or it, not a woman or man. It's an it. She really I can't stress this enough her career with Bill Clinton when he was Attorney General and Governor of Arkansas covering up for CIA cocaine money flows from Columbia through the MENA Arkansas airport getting piles of hundred dollar bills as payoff for that.

21:22 She was involved in covering up for murders that she and Bill arranged through the Organized Crime Mafia to eliminate people who were about ready to uncover that in Arkansas politics. And then Bill Clinton gets into the White House, in the early 90s as a front for George Bush Sr., because Bill Clinton... The hidden story there is that Bill Clinton and George Bush Sr were intimately close. Clinton was probably recruited by the CIA through the networks of Bush Sr., and Bush had lost the confidence in the American people after the Iraq War 1991 against San Jose, and that the economy was in trouble so you remember the famous quote from Bill Clinton on the presidential debate? It's the economy stupid. But that was all stage-oriented or organized it was all staged

22:18 And the idea was that Bill Clinton, Bubba, you know this kind of good old boy from Arkansas with a SEG smile would hold the post. Bush, baby Bush could come in and replace him eight years later which is what happened so now we have this obscenity called Hillary Clinton And Donald Trump presumably will be the Republican candidate. So you'll have a choice between not the lesser of two evils, but evil one or evil two? Which one do you want? They're both going to kill you. Yeah, I know it's a rough situation and i've heard you talk about Trump a little bit because a lot of people...I think its kind of simplistic naive position but they think that trump is the star course whose really disrupting the apple cart in the political system and I just..i think thats naive and i've heard you talked about his background and his mafia connections a little bit tell us why we might not want to be so quick to jump on the trump train

23:22 Well, Trump is a master of articulating rage that many Americans feel at Washington and their own life situation. The fact the economy is in the dregs since 2008-2007 so there's a lot of rage there and Trump is very good pushing that up out onto the table in politically incorrect way. He's a demagogue, classical demagogue like Benito Mussolini or Adolf Hitler if you study his speeches in clinical way really And all he does is give sound bites. He gives little one-liners, he's got prompters who prep him on one liners and it seems like he's radical but in fact he changes his positions depending upon the organization that he stands in front of something Hillary Clinton has started to use against him But that doesn't mean Hillary was good and he's bad Trump got his start in the construction business Now if you know anything about New York City construction

24:21 organized crime, the Gambino family all of these and construction go hand in glove in New York City. And that hasn't changed from the 30s and the 40s right up into the present so that's where Trump Towers and all this stuff came from then Donald Trump gets in as Mr Clean because he is not known in the casino gambling circuits and opens up casino gambling in Atlantic City, who knows that? In the early 80s. Now casino gambling is organized crime pure unadulterated Las Vegas Macau Atlantic City it's all money laundering for organized crime and you don't come in there as a Mr Clean amateur and do what Trump did in Atlantic City

25:14 He made the deals with the right people. Every serious business associate Donald Trump has had up until his presidential bid, had links to one or another mafia organized crime organization and his mentor when he was starting in business after he left the Business School in his early 20's is a mentor in the 1960s was a guy named Roy Cohn, Now, Roy Cohn was a mobster lawyer who used to have the Gambino family make their mafia meetings where they cut deals in his law offices so that the FBI or the police couldn't touch them because this was lawyer-client privilege. And Donald Trump used to go to a place—I don't know if anybody remembers this anymore

26:09 I was working as a journalist in New York City in the late 70s. There was a notorious place of crack cocaine disco called Studio 54, and Roy Cohn used to bring Donald Trump there regularly—they were both regulars—and this is the shickie-micky hoi polloy of New York politics names that shouldn't appear on the daily news and mostly they didn't because they paid the right people And they would have cocaine orgies and Donald Trump even described it in one of his autobiographies. He said, I saw a scene... This is the man who wants to be president, the moral leader of the United States of America said, I was standing there watching this with seven of the most dazzling models I've ever seen in my life lying on chairs in the middle of Studio 54 getting screwed by seven men at the same time

27:06 Wow. This is kind of the moral fiber of the man, so if you want someone like that as president it's your bed and you're going to make it but I think we oughta take a lesson from the British what they did last Thursday and just take responsibility for our nation back And obviously this Brexit thing is big news. I hear a lot of people are respect coming down on both sides, but ultimately I think any kind of decentralization is a good thing in the long run But of course here with Trump and Clinton, yeah it seems like just another false choice as always. But another thing I wanted to mention while we're talking about Clinton is that... ...I've talked to researchers who have gone over the Clinton death list. The many suspicious deaths that seem to surround the Clintons. You know, an alarming number of people who are their opposition or have dirt on them end up dying. And there is a new one! This UN diplomat

28:03 John Ash, he crushed his own throat in a workout accident apparently just as he was starting to talk to investigators on this Clinton International bribery thing and it doesn't surprise me But when we have these two choices if there's any real difference at all Because of these deaths and Hillary's warmongering career. It seems like she is the more dangerous to me but I'm not gonna be happy either way Pretty undesirable We're coming into a kind of new paradigm, I think in the world. And this may sound a little bit strange to some because we're used to the old familiar but all these... it's the lost hegemon theme All these scenarios, all these manipulations of the population like were a bunch of stupid sheep They are not working anymore! They can't five years on in Syria this tiny little country

29:02 The CIA, the MI6 of Britain, the French intelligence, the US Pentagon—all of this can't get rid of Bashar al-Assad to build that gas pipeline into the European Union that Qatar wants to build on behalf of the United States. They can't do it! It's not working and none of these scenarios are working. Look at what they did in Libya, that was Hillary Clinton's operation to demonize the man who had created the most prosperous standard of living of any nation in Africa and Middle East called Libya. The literacy rate under Gaddafi had almost completely disappeared it was under 10%. Before that it was almost 90% illiteracy

29:49 under the king and the country had been given a share of the oil wealth because Gaddafi was an intelligent tribal leader. He said we have to have peace among the tribes so that everybody feels they're included, and they're cared for. So he did not privatize his state oil company much to the anger of Italians and French and British who wanted to grab that beautiful oil in terms of quality. So he took that oil and created kind of a sovereign wealth fund, and reinvested that in the future of Libya. He was building this huge freshwater pipeline to irrigate the desert

30:32 He was giving down payment on homes to any couple that was newly married. Education was free, medical care was free... You know there was no war in Libya for the entire time of Gaddafi but Hillary Clinton didn't like that because Gaddafi was about to do something that Hillary's advisors said this would not be good for the dollar. Gaddafi and the president of Tunisia, a neighbor of Libya named Ben Ali and the president of Egypt named Mubarak were about to create a unified currency region with a gold backed Dinar. Gaddafi had the gold from his oil sales and he was going to sell the oil in Libya only for gold dinars

31:24 So, no dollars. If you want our oil Germany or England or whoever You have to come up with gold and buy some of our dinars so that was a direct threat against the sovereignty or hegemony of the US dollar as a way to control the world economy And it has nothing to do with nationalism These oligarchs are not nationalists they're globalist David Rockefeller and Soros and this bunch They want to use the dollar to control the world, quite simply. And if countries like Libya started a gold-backed Dinar system with Egypt and Tunisia that would spread across the oil world of the Middle East and China and Russia already are well on their way toward gold back Rubel, gold back Yuan Renminbi in China

32:19 And they've been buying gold for years to build that up and build it up as a credible alternative to the bankrupt de facto US dollar where the public debt on that dollar system is more than 100% of GDP. That has happened since George W Bush became president, double. And I'm so glad you broke down Libya because it's so polar opposite from the story we're told and it does seem like Gaddafi is just another casualty on the quest to escape international banker control, which is a sad thing. But I've heard you talk about the Bushes and the Clintons working for the same faction. I totally agree with you there but did we see much of a gameplay change or shift in alliances under Obama? Or have we pretty much stayed the course?

33:06 No, it's a change. The only thing that changed was the skin color of the man in the White House and that's not a racist remark. That's just the only thing that changed. Right? And Obama appointed every single key economic position were from Wall Street to Geithner came from the New York Federal Reserve You had all the key positions were named by Robert Rubin, the former chairman of Goldman Sachs who became the vice-chairman of Citigroup. And he was on the transition team, Robert Rubin. So Wall Street banks control the financial side of the Obama administration

33:54 The Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama, who was given the prize before he even got his shoes off in the Oval Office. Was given to the man who bought into Petraeus' 30 thousand surge into Afghanistan. This brilliant strategy that has worked so catastrophically. So the military industrial complex pretty much has run him along with Big Oil. Now, there was an interesting period where Chuck Hagel was Secretary of Defense Dempsey was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff this is early in the Syria war and I believe genuinely they tried to stop the president going berserk

34:39 in a bombing campaign in Syria like what he did in Libya under the advice of Hillary Clinton. Obama is a spineless president, it's not my assessment that's pretty much the universal assessment and when certain people are forceful you said okay you do it and he gave the portfolio to Hillary Clinton to Samantha Power to Susan Rice's trio who said we have a responsibility to protect innocent civilians in Syria. That is George Soros' concept which is legal nonsense but it sounds good on the sound bite and they used that to bomb Libya into the Stone Age

35:20 And then the plan was to roll that war and even the jihadists who were armed by the CIA from Libya into Syria, could do the same thing within a matter of few months in Syria. It didn't work! So this is the main thing it's... The good news is these characters are losing everywhere The bad news is they're getting desperate and trying crazy things but I think in the end we're winning them they're losing. I mean decent human beings will want peaceful life for their family and friends and their country. Right, I try to be optimistic too it does seem like a certain tide is changing but the reason i bring up the shift in alliances or the reason i ask you about that because sometimes this stuff gets pretty confusing to me we of course have public alliances private alliances lot of stuff going on when you try to unpack at all but to quote your book and i believe you're talking about

36:16 things that happened in the Obama administration, but you say Israel and Saudi Arabia were deeply alarmed by the US shift to back the political Islam of the Muslim Brothers. To put it mildly, the self-confident Israelis of the 1990s seemed now confused lacking a clear strategy fearful and aggressive in an increasingly futile manner Can you elaborate maybe on what you're referring to there? Well, if you look at the relations between the Obama administration and Netanyahu, the Likud in Israel since Obama made clear he was going for the nuclear deal with Iran. He was doing that not for good reasons but to play Iran in a way to advance this military control by the US of the entire oil resources in Middle East, you know, to create destabilization of Saudi and so forth

37:09 but uh... netanyahu looked on this not in a very friendly way and the problem is Israel as a functioning nation has no clear strategy at this point under Netanyahu. He has so many coalition partners in these lunatic religious cults and so forth, fundamentalists the settlers and others but now Putin, who's a political animal of the first order and I mean that in good sense. He has got a nose to smell out when there is an opening. He recently met with Netanyahu and made a proposal We Russia were in Syria And we have a pretty strong presence there with Bashar al-Assad

37:59 You have a huge natural gas offshore field, the huge one called Leviathan. You haven't yet been able to develop it in partnership with this American Noble Energy from Texas. We, Gazprom will get them to be a capital investor in Leviathan so you'll have enough money to bring this gas online and furthermore we will give you security that Iranian and the Hezbollah, who otherwise are rather not in a love romance with Israel will not sabotage your gas fields in Leviathan because they will not mess with Russia. How that's going to play out I don't know. I was in St Petersburg Economic Forum giving a talk

38:50 a week and half ago, after my remarks an Israeli ambassador came up to me. And her job was to work through this new Russian-Israel rapprochement or whatever you want to call it. There are million Russian Jews living in Israel since the end of Soviet Union so Putin has a little bit of influence there politically. The world is changing, the alliances are changing Israel has done criminal things Russia has done criminal things every country you can name has done criminal things China too but things are changing and the constellations are forcing a new tectonic shift if you will That's what makes it so fascinating I'm not at all pessimistic about where we're headed

39:39 Yeah, it's hard to go downhill so change is good. And to put a finer point on the saga you lay out in the book and the ambitious post 9-11 plan that seems to be losing steam now... The notion that the US wanted better control over the Middle Eastern oil supply is well established at this point but you take that further and I wanted to read another great quote On a deeper level, these actions were part of larger global strategy to defeat the only effective resistance to the creation of new 21st century universal fascism. A return to dark times in middle ages but on world scale One world that would be controlled by very rich western families whose agenda was total control over the world and reduction of the global population through eugenics wars and terrorism I mean

40:29 That's it man. That's the big conspiracy in a nutshell, isn't it? That's pretty much it yeah the Rockefeller family have been financing the American eugenics movement and the world eugenics movement since the 1920's through The Rockefeller Foundation. Eugenics was what the Nazis worked on with Joseph Mengele and the Nazi doctors in Auschwitz, etc... That is well documented, there is no speculation. And what's not so well documented is what I document another book of mine, The Seeds Of Destruction

41:04 genetic manipulation, but genetic manipulation is the spin-off of eugenics. And the Rockefeller Foundation from 1926 until 1939 when rather the Nazis invaded Poland in World War II was officially begun by the British they financed all of the eugenics research of the Nazis at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Berlin and Munich and elsewhere And after the war, they made sure that the best of the Nazi doctors these brain experimenters and so forth were smuggled into Canada in the United States given new identities respectability and continue their work for The Rockefellers. Eugenics is population reduction of the lesser breed you know the inferiors and cloning or whatever this is what genetic manipulation is all about to try to clone human beings and breed

41:57 You know the master race that's a Nazi thing but it's also the Rockefeller thing. Yeah and that book was the first one of yours I learned about and i know came out couple years ago, but how have you seen things advancing on the GMO front what stage are we in with the Monsanto GMO agenda has anything changed recently? Very much has changed recently, especially Monsanto has become so discredited as a brand in the world. You mentioned the name Monsanto and every person on the street of Europe their hackles go up they think this is the worst most evil company ever made and they're not far wrong it's a Rockefeller Company by the way since World War One they were a chemical company like Hercules powder and DuPont and Dow Chemical

42:43 that made chemicals for the pursuit of World War I against Germany on behalf of the British and French, and then in World War II. Then they rechanged their image to be a so-called biotech company but the essence of it are the chemicals—the agricultural weed killers roundup of most widely used weed killer in the world. It's used by housewives and people in their family gardens. It's used in public parks, and the WHO last year announced that it is a probable carcinogen which means a cancer-causing substance because of glufosate, the main chemical used in Roundup. So

43:28 This is a death operation, the whole GMO experiment. What recently happened and I finished an article on my website williamhendall.com if anyone wants to look it up in the next few days when it's posted The Russian Duma, the Parliament of Russia on their third reading has finally passed a complete ban on all GMO cultivation in the Russian Federation, the biggest land area on this planet Putin, in December of last year President Putin said we want to make Russia into the world's leading exporter of pure clean organic food. To the world that has been contaminated with this GMO junk and

44:14 I'm sure it was Monsanto, but the GMO cartel probably bought off a couple of Russian scientists at the Academy of Science and ran one of the flimsiest studies to claim that GMO has no problem. It's all good for us and so forth. And the president of the Academy of Sciences in January got a meeting with Vladimir Putin to tell him GMOs is good! It's good for Russia we should get into it well God bless his soul Vladimir held firm did not flinch a bit on this nonsense. Russian scientists ripped this report to shreds and on Friday, I call it Black Friday in the article because for the oligarchs, Friday the 24th of June will go down in their history books if they are around to write the history books as Black Friday mega because it was the day that the British people voted to leave

45:11 totalitarian construct called the European Union in Brussels. Nobody could imagine this would happen and on that same day, the Russian parliament voted the law to ban all GMO. And a few months earlier, the Russian Food Safety Authority banned all soybeans and all corn imports into the Russian Federation from the United States because it contained traces of GMO if it wasn't GMO or it contained other toxins. So this is a huge defeat for Monsanto

45:47 The European Union is now debating, and this is unprecedented. I've lived in Germany, I've lived in Europe for 30 years as a researcher, as an economist, as a teacher and lecturer And I followed agribusiness, agriculture because it's a key part of the agenda of the US oligarchs. Control food you control people, control oil you control nations, control money as Henry Kissinger said in 1970 and you control entire world so food that is initial reason that I got interested in this agribusiness Cargill, Outchard, Daniel Midland

46:26 grain cartel companies and then Monsanto folded into that quite logically in the early part of this century. So now, Monsanto is so disgraced that they allow themselves to be taken over by one of the old Nazi chemical companies called Bayer AG in Germany and Bayer AG has a public image as little aspirin producers, aspirins, Bayer Aspirin And in fact, they produce some of the most deadly agriculture chemicals that are responsible for the death of bee colony. We call it bee colony disorder but it's just poisoning of bees four or five years ago such that the European Union was forced to ban these neonicotinoids as they're called, these nerve killing chemicals that were being sprayed to kill pests and the agriculture

47:28 Bayer is the old IG Farben, the cartel that ran the gas ovens. Bayer is a company whose scientists originally in 1880's synthesized and gave the name heroin to form of opium that was sold then by Bayer as children's cough medicine. Believe me or not this all documented. So, there's huge changes going on in these companies because they're in trouble. They're trying to come up with new covers so it'll be called Bayer and the name Monsanto will disappear and people will forget them. They count on us being stupid really stupid.

48:10 So, I mean this is all so interesting and right now people are a little hung up on using the label World War III. There's obviously a lot of pressure around the world things are changing as we've been talking about and when it comes to the current climate we know that banker manipulations are pretty much behind everything in global markets and we have the price of oil being so low Is this a manipulation as well? I've heard you talk about this and it seems like you predicted or perhaps, your thinking that this could be preparation for some type of big event. As we have seen before. I considered that possibility about 7-8 months ago and it looked like it was heading toward really the World War III at this point I don't see a world war coming. I see a Pentagon desperate to come up with reasons

49:05 to convince Congress to up the Pentagon budget in the next budget round, and the next several budget rounds at a time when the federal budget has to be drastically reduced or the country is going to go off the skids in terms of debt and insolvency. So they're making this boogeyman out of Clinton. They tried to make the boogeyman out of ISIS But it wasn't big enough to get those Pentagon high-tech arms things like the silly F35, all purpose, all service fighter jet and things like that. All this pork barrel stuff that the Pentagon loves so much. So they're using the fact that Russia intervened in Syria which came as a surprise and they did so with a shoestring military budget

49:58 by comparison with the Pentagon, more or less in the Russians' backyard they managed to put together certain missile systems, cruise missile systems that were fired from the Black Sea with precision on targets in Syria. Now that's awesome! There are jets... no jet in the world's air forces can burn a candle next to some of these Russian machines and the targeting and precision. So what the Pentagon is trying to do is a bunch of neocon military types who want a fat retirement job working for the military industrial complex, like Breedlove—I think he's angling for a post as Defense Secretary under President Hillary—the former commander of NATO Europe who are yelling and screaming about how Russia is the biggest threat to world peace and so forth

50:52 And then you have retired generals in a position to know saying everybody privately in the US and European military knows that there is no aggressive threat from Russia on any European country. They have no desire for another war, they lost 27 million people in World War II winning their war for the Americans as the Russians put it Because that's who took credit. They don't even acknowledge what sacrifice the Russians made So Russia doesn't want war I've been to Russia so many times in the last 20 years, I can I tell you, they do not want war. They do not want hostility with the United States! They would love to be at peace with America. Young Russians, they talk up American music and American pop culture... You go to restaurants in Moscow or St Petersburg where it was a week ago for this forum

51:47 And you'd think you were in New York City or something. It's just totally Western, but they're very proud people and this is something the neocons in Washington have no culture. They are a bunch of barbarian apes and they can't understand culture and history that the Russians are very proud And they're not about to have their head pushed into the toilet bowl by a bunch of unwashed neocons like Ash Carter and Victoria Nuland, who is the Assistant Secretary for Russia and Eastern Europe. under John Kerry. Well, you know for years the American machine has run on perpetual war and anytime our economy takes a downturn war is ramped up and they kind of gloss over that downturn if the world is wising up to our game and not as quick to get into conflicts as The United States government might want should we expect our economy? To take a hit as well and follow suit with the kind of the flushing out of that plan

52:49 Greg, you are doing this interview from California. You said you tell me but what state is the United States real economy in since the financial crisis of 2008? My view is it's a great depression worse than the 1930s Washington lies about the unemployment. It's in actuality, according to a good friend of mine who tracks these economic data John Williams and shadow government statistics its real unemployment is 23 22 point seven percent somewhere in that range That's 1930s level

53:28 The jobs have all been out migrated to Asia, to South America and Mexico. Whatever the factory jobs are solid real economy jobs we have a $3 trillion dollar, at the last estimate by the Society of Construction Engineers that I read is 3 trillion dollar national infrastructure deficit of rail lines bridges highway bridges sewer works waterways electricity grids that urgently needs renewal, but we spend it on bailing out these brain dead banks of Wall Street. So we're in the crisis! We're in the crisis and that's why I call it The Lost Hegemon in my new book because they really kind of have lost it

54:15 You know, David Rockefeller. Look at pictures of this gruesome character. He's got eyes that are oozing blood. He's had supposedly his sixth human heart transplant. Lord knows where the hearts come from and he is close to 100. Yeah a lot of those guys are... Yeah Soros looks the same it looks like in the last year or two he's aged 100 years so You know, these are the guys that we're supposed to look up to as powerful influential people. Give me a break! They've been around too long for any good that they've done which they'd never done so let's take the country not like Donald Trump says take it back

54:57 Let's really be responsible for the country with the most beautiful constitution of any country in world history, the American Constitution. Well that was destroyed and ripped up by Bubba Bush in 2001 with The Patriot Act and all these other things We can take that back. Let's roll back the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which created the control of sovereign money in the United States of America in the hands of private Wall Street banks. That is called The Federal Reserve Act. And let's put that back into the responsibility of Congress to create credit for the good of the nation. If Congress doesn't do that, we vote them out! You can't vote out the governor of the Federal Reserve. It is appointed by Wall Street essentially. So a few simple things and we could work miracles but

55:51 Some people really want to destroy anything positive about our country and I think it's time we said like what the British people said last Friday, enough is enough. We're fed up with your top-down pushing around them I try to be optimistic, you know. But knowing how calculated the oligarchs are and how they have their strings on pretty much everything playing the puppet master role can we really trust the integrity of that Brexit vote? You think what would they leave that up to chance or is this could this possibly be something that they wanted? I mean a vote was so close. I think 2% no, I've had this discussion with serious friends

56:32 It really caught them with their pants down. It caught them by surprise, they thought two days before the vote they had it nailed. They had fake polls coming out saying that the stay faction had a majority and da-da-da-da Cameron was threatening financial ruin for the average Brit if they did this I think what tipped it for first of all you have to understand the British frame of mind. They're very also a very proud people like the Russians and a very independent people, British history you go back to Henry VIII and the Protestants and the whole cultural thing in the wars and they have this island mentality we're not part of continental mainland Europe were British Were something special and that has a good side and a bad side but in this case

57:23 They looked at Europe with Angela Merkel opening her arms to more than 1 million political refugees, calling them migrants and beautiful people. And they're going to boost the German economy and all they're doing is boosting the German debt but 130 thousand of the one million disappeared in these were young males between 18 and 26. They disappeared! The police nobody in Germany was one of most documented control countries in Europe. They don't know where these guys are, they could be Al-Qaeda or ISIS obviously many of them are there and sweeper cells all around Germany or Europe as a result so not that every person who came across on the boat is an ISIS far from it but the British look at Europe and see how crazy they become and say we don't want this

58:16 We want to keep a British identity. We've had it for more than 1,000 years and by God we're going to keep it! And the laws that Brussels makes are not laws that we consider good for English people and it's getting worse not better...we're gonna exit!" That's what they did And all the manipulation, all the terror campaigns everything you can imagine. Even this member of parliament on the Conservative Party who was murdered she wasn't a political murderer I don't think she was murdered a few days before the vote and they took the murder and gave it a spin that it was a pro-exit killer who killed her because

59:00 wanting to stay inside the EU. So that seemed to tilt things for a day or so, but then the British people said no! I remember talking to a British woman who had retired and her husband was for staying in the European Union and she said No! I think we need to get out it's a rotten system it's top-down we have no control over what happens to our country anymore under Brussels And when Obama, President of the United States comes to England and tells us we better stay in the European Union. That got my hackles up I don't like any foreign president meddling in British affairs

59:38 So that convinced me that getting out of this thing was the right thing. And I also know you've spent a decent amount of time in China, sweatshop of the world and you also wrote a book called Targeting China. How do you see this global conflict from their perspective? China is a complicated country it's in many respects a beautiful country where people have unbelievable energy to build the future. one of the translators of one my books, The Seeds Of Destruction to give a lecture in Kunming China. Before I went there, I knew very little about Kunming that I knew only by looking at Google Maps that it was close to the border with Laos so its pretty far into the interior and I come to Kunming and there's a city of 13 or 12 million people with skyscrapers It looks as modern as Frankfurt or Berlin nowadays

1:00:39 And, you know what they've built in 34 years is just astonishing. And now they have this project called the One Belt One Road, The New Economic Silk Road High-Speed Railway and crucial strategic port systems oceanways for the trade and that is transforming the economic map of Eurasia from Russia is part of this. Putin has just finished a tour in China with President Xi talking about exactly these projects, so you have Russia and China economically weaving the web of cooperation and peaceful cooperation very different from the Soviet-Stalin-Mao relationship

1:01:25 And they both realize that the agenda of Washington is to destroy any kind of autonomy that either country has. The only chance they have to come out of this and create a counterpole stability is to work together The Russian military exceeds anything the Chinese have. We saw this in Syria, but even before that their anti-missile defense systems, the S400 and so forth... The Chinese are by that because it's the most cutting edge anti-missile system in the world light years beyond anything the US has with Raytheon and so on So China needs Russia and Russia needs China. Russia needs the Chinese

1:02:13 financial support for infrastructure projects to build these rail lines that are crisscrossing Eurasia. And it's kind of a synergy that fits very beautifully and is changing the map of Eurasia, and that is going to change the map of the world in 10-15 years from my view It's amazing what groups of people can do when they want to work together. I'd like to see high-speed rail all around the world, but it's just not the priority for the oligarchs. But it'll be an interesting decade, decade and a half for sure now this is a bit of a gear switch but I also wanted to ask you about the Jesuits we've talked about them here before as the intelligence agents at the Vatican they come up in the book when you discuss the 30 Years War but I've heard people talking about their more recent agendas that I'm curious

1:03:01 What are your thoughts on the Jesuit order? It's remarkable that since the order was officially created in Spain under Ignatius Loyola and Francis Xavier in the 1540s as a military order that fought a counter-reformation against the Protestant movement on behalf of the Vatican. and to retake large parts of Europe for the Vatican. The first pope in the history of that organization, to be a Jesuit is Francis. Now I was in Slovenia and my publisher in Slovenia told me an interesting story

1:03:44 Everybody thinks that this Pope Francis models himself as a humble, down-to-earth pope based on Saint Francis of Assisi. The one who was a nature lover and washed the feet of the poor and all these things And this is all Jesuit PR, it's all a sham. The name Francis as was posted on the website of the Society of Jesus in the first minutes after he announced his name as Pope came from Francis Xavier, the co-founder of the Society of Jesus in 1540s and then when they realized that the world press speculated that it was Francis Assisi because not too many were familiar with Xavier

1:04:28 He said, this is how we'll play it. So the Jesuits have been described as the Vatican assassins. They have been kicked out of many countries even popes have kicked them out of Rome in the past they have a corner on education in the church They're a secret society. They're a militaristic society, the head of the Jesuit order is called the what is it director general I believe but anyway the general and it's a military organization top-down they're up to no good. The refugee crisis in Europe this pope is going around

1:05:14 telling Europeans there'd be no crisis. This is a migration, he says uses the word migration and that's a very different word from political refugees seeking asylum because their life is in danger. Migration is you have migrations of antelope and bird migrations of human migrations coming from Germany and Sweden to find work in the United States so they had immigration quotas from the Immigration and Naturalization Service so many 10,000 Italians, so many 10,000 per year Swedes and so forth. And that was all orderly and managed. If you were over the quota, you had to wait. Well that's a migration, that's an orderly process. This is no migration this is a war created by Washington largely at the Vatican I have it on good account from someone who

1:06:11 claims to have inside information that the former general of the Jesuits is in Syria running the whole Syrian side at this destabilization, Colenbach. The Dutch who was a specialist in Syrian culture and history so I think from the side of the Vatican and the Jesuit order and Opus Dei's involved as well if you saw the Da Vinci Code excuse me that was based in part on the history of Opus Dei, this criminal band of fanatical members of this Catholic order that originated also out of Spain like the Jesuits. So it has nothing to do with my view with religion It has to do with control of human beings and like they did during 30 Years War and the Counter-Reformation their job is to bring people back into the Dark Ages in Europe

1:07:11 So they're using the refugees, I think this is my view otherwise it doesn't make sense. They are using the refugees These war refugees, these traumatized people to completely destabilize Europe and break down the borders. So there's no national culture, no sense of Belgium is this that or the other thing and we're proud of this that and the other in our history Or a Dutch or Germans despite Hitler and so forth they have some beautiful history with Beethoven Bach art and Renaissance and so forth Every nation has it Italy Leonardo da Vinci

1:07:47 So, that's going to be destroyed and people are going to be driven into states of fear to seek refuge in a false religion. And it'll be kind of... I think what Francis is aiming for is the one world religion, a synthetic religion like the Rockefellers have talked about for years where everybody can be controlled by this religious ideology you know like sheep. Yeah, and it's such a strange faction that we don't hear nearly enough about but I've always heard that the shadow government of the Vatican is led by the black Pope who has always been A Jesuit. But now the public facing pope is a Jesuit? I mean Right right It just seems odd. I mean, I know that they do things in a very calculated manner Do you find that significant at all?

1:08:39 Very. Right, right you know the Jesuits there's look up in the Oxford English Dictionary the word jesuitical it's in the common language for centuries and then for good reason It means someone who is sly cunning deceiving in his use of words and That's the Jesuits they you know they kill Pope's if I'm home singing on the same sheet music This Pederasty scandal, look carefully at the record of Francis on the Pederasty. Look at his record when he was Cardinal in Argentina He protected the military dictatorship, the Junta who was put in there by Henry Kissinger during the 80's and David Rockefeller. He protected them and turned over Catholic priests to the military junta for torture

1:09:36 Because he wanted to be on their good side. So that tells you what a man of God is, huh? Dark stuff indeed it's just it's an odd position to be in as somewhat enlightened American because we all see the Terrible things the power elite have done around the globe in our name and to see their plans deteriorate It Is encouraging, but I can't help but feel a little concerned that my fate might be a bit linked to that of the nefarious elite. And you're a guy who grew up in the States and now live in Germany do you have any special advice for Americans preparing for the decline of the American empire? Celebrate it! America is not an imperial country why should we control other nations right why should we control any other nation America has so many things it needs to take care of their own backyard

1:10:27 We have, as I mentioned earlier $3 trillion of infrastructure deficit. Let's get the Federal Reserve out of business and put it into the hands of Congress as the Constitution mandated and nationalize those six or seven bankrupt banks these brain dead banks of Wall Street Goldman Sachs Bank of America Wells Fargo Citigroup JP Morgan Chase they're all criminal enterprises If we did like Iceland did after their banking crisis, the heads of CEOs and the boards of directors would all be sitting in prison right now. Instead they're given bonuses that are bigger than ever! What kind of a crazy nation have we become? We let them lead us around like dogs by the nose but there are more of us than there are these

1:11:18 characters. So, you know just wake up! Wake up and do what comes naturally defend your rights not with guns necessarily but defend them with your actions with your votes don't vote for Hillary don't vote for Trump find some way to express You know, the whole election thing is a game. And we should stop allowing us to be gamed by these unqualified people. Amen man! It is a revolving door and we should have taken the Icelandic example with our bankers but you know live and learn Well we still can! We still can That's true Let's elect some congressmen and senators who are decent human beings again I've met several senators one from Alaska

1:12:12 who ran for president about 10 years ago, and he described how it was in the 80s when he was in Congress or in the Senate. He said Democrat-Republican we weren't biting into each other's necks like they are today. We would find points of compromise that the nation...the nation was primary Now that's not the case. It's the party uber alles, you know? That comes dangerously close to an American fascism and I think that's what Americans are all about. We're a free people! Let's get that back! Amen!

1:12:48 I hope so. I do love your optimism, it makes me feel far less cynical than i usually end a show with so that's great but man William I've learned a lot from you! I really appreciate your dedication to understanding these complex geopolitical situations and your commitment to educating people on what you uncover before we go tell the listeners where they can get more Ingdahl. WilliamIngdahl.com It's my website and you can get most of my articles. You can subscribe to my free twice monthly newsletter if you go on the website, and you'll get certain sections in some of my books as previews and so naturally I'm interested in selling books that I could continue my research independently

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1:14:37 In French, a few of them are there. These are volunteers who've come to me and said what you say is important can I translate that into French or Russian or whatever? So it's growing right now. I have to do everything more or less myself but it's work I do with the passion and love puts light in dark corners and gives people what they normally, I hope but i know it's the case normally would not know. The Lost Hegemon, I urge anybody who has listened to this broadcast to click on the book if you go into my website and subscribe to this free twice monthly newsletter you will get a chapter of The Lost Hegemon so you can judge for yourself but its so important to understand whats going on in the world today with US with the Middle East

1:15:40 with Orlando, Florida. With all these things it's all smoke and mirrors, fakery being done to bring us into a state of fear and not the state of peace and love. And that's no mamby-pamby airy fairy stuff that is absolutely what its' all about in the world today Amen. And yeah, if people are sick of the mainstream narratives you got to stop giving them your attention and everything runs on money so put your attention and money into the alternatives and they will rise to eventually drown out the mainstreams So again The Lost Hegemon is the book I urge everybody pick it up I learned a lot from it If you have any confusion over the Muslim Brotherhood in the history of how the American Empire has used it I've never found

1:16:31 a clear narrative that described that for me. So I loved it and take care out there, all right man? Thank you Greg! I enjoyed the talk Awesome me too Alright guys there we have it F. William Ingdahl definitely a smart guy who knows a lot about some really confusing parts of history he knows a lot about a lot really I mean seeds of destruction you might remember James Corbett dropping that book on the oil tycoon control episode we did not too long ago It's great, and I'm glad we could get into that a little bit too because the details of the GMO agenda don't really get talked about nearly enough. Everybody talks about the links between vaccines and autism but i think people might be missing some real adverse effects from GMOs and Roundup that are happening right around us

1:17:20 And those links just aren't as frequently talked about I don't think. But we also got into some timely stuff like the disastrous, as always presidential candidates and the Brexit situation. I don't know if i trust the integrity of that vote but it is an interesting blip on the world's radar nonetheless It's just fun to hear about the idea that the oligarchs are scrambling to keep control as it starts to slip away. I mean, that was the main theme here laying out the plan as The Globalists wanted and then breaking down how that agenda is fizzling out and this is a time of change we haven't seen in decades! Change IS scary but we know The Elite have had us in Anaconda's grip from cradle-to-grave for a long time Maybe there's something better on the other side right? It's a position that I appreciate And I hope this is a time to be optimistic

1:18:06 So we had a solid first hour rounding things out with the Jesuits making yet another appearance in THC Conversation, talking about the refugee crisis and what the Jesuit Pope calls The Great Migration. It is a strange time and the refugee issue is a complex one I've watched a few documentaries from inside these camps And it's pretty terrible The people think that it's only going to be a couple weeks and then it's months, and now over a year. And can you imagine having to leave your home because it is now a battleground? Any money you brought with you has gone because its been two years. You really can't prepare enough! You can't work anywhere...you probably didn't even have time to learn the language and don't know where you're going It just sucks and we should have compassion for that That is the great majority of people affected by this They just want to go home

1:18:53 So we should go to the source of the problem, you know. The globalist superpowers that are using these people's homes as a battleground for proxy war If we just shut our borders rather than pressuring our governments to leave them alone We're pretty much just selfish assholes right? We're saying look we don't care what happens to you, we don't care what anyone does to you Just don't come here okay I mean that is the attitude that we put off and i'm really uncomfortable when I hear some people talking about it in that regard but I think William breaks it down pretty well. And then of course we have the PLUS show where we get into vaccines and Bill Gates' little project in Africa. Also about how China has forged a productive relationship with parts of Africa, how GMOs are playing out in China, the content from William's book Gods Of Money and what's going on in the world of banking consolidation...and other good stuff you know the drill sign up for PLUS to hear at the second hour of every show but I hope you liked this one it is the last practical show on the roster this month for the rest of the month

1:19:54 We're getting into some pretty weird areas and hitting on some pretty unique topics. So I'm excited, I hope you're excited! Pick up The Lost Hegemon if you want more details on the things we talked about today and i'll see ya soon Your move oligarchs of the hemorrhaging hegemon your fucking move Oh no You see The world isn't random, it's attached to puppet strings Control over everything A nine-to-five is trying to steal ya Now don't that job seem silly? Hello, can you hear me

1:20:44 Or should I play back recordings from some spying agency? Wish we were younger and free. I'll be thankful when it's all exposed, the vast conspiracy There is such a difference between us And the Denver child Hollow from a higher side They're calling out a thousand crimes They'll tell you the story of everything that's been done And they'll call out deception for the web that's been spawned

1:21:39 Hollow from the higher side The earth is hollow inside They'll tell you about something that no one else will Have you heard about Saturn? Have you heard about the real since love wore on? Oh, No They're cartoons It's so typical of me to talk about the stuff I'm sorry that's good and well Did you ever hear the argument That nothing really happens? It's no secret And that the best is plus

1:22:40 It's doubling your time Hello from the higher side They're calling out a thousand cries Now tell me something the elite have done And they'll call out deception from the web that's been spawned Hello from the higher side Challenging your paradise

1:23:19 And I'll tell you something That the battle's begun But we can't fight it with violence The mind's where it's won At the war Oh, at the war Hollow from the higher side They're calling out a thousand crimes They'll tell you something the elite have done And they'll call my own deception Of the web that's been spawned Hollow from the higher side