Dr. Paul LaViolette | Anti-Gravity Propulsion, Aether Physics, & Secret Science

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00:58 All right, Hiresight Chatters. It is no surprise that the public has seen the needle on rocket and jet propulsion technology move very little in a series of decades that have shown rapid advancements in nearly all other technological areas Because we know the sciences have been highly controlled to leave out the roads that lead to antigravitic crafts, and that the true advancements in these areas are completely quarantined by black projects. And at this point maybe even a breakaway civilization Yet we do have bright minds and alternative thinkers who have tinkered with the realms of ether physics alchemy in a more holistic systems approach and Have stumbled upon many of the world-changing applications That The Capstone Cabal would rather us just not know about

01:44 And if we dig a little deeper, I think we'll find qualities and principles of space the galaxy and life itself have been altered in similar ways to keep vital information from filtering down on the people. And i don't think i'm alone in those thoughts because today's guest Paul LaViolette has spent most his life working against the grains of conventional science and has his own models for not only flying saucer technology but also the cosmology of the universe itself He received his BA in physics from John Hopkins, his MBA from the University of Chicago and his PhD from Portland State University. He is the first to predict that high-intensity volleys of cosmic ray particles travel directly to our planet from distant sources in the galaxy a phenomenon that's now confirmed by scientific data

02:31 He is also the developer of subquantum kinetics, came up with a new theory of gravity and has advanced a number of new ideas and theories in a whole plethora of areas related to space, the stars, even the ancient world. His books include titles like Secrets of Anti-Gravity Propulsion, Tesla UFOs and Classified Aerospace Technology, Earth Under Fire, Humanities Survival of the Ice Age and Decoding the Message of the Pulsars Intelligent Communications from The Galaxy. It is a real treat to have him here, a guy who gets more done before his morning coffee than most of us do all week Paul Maman welcome to The Higher Side. Well I've slowed down about these last few days

03:13 Well, it seems like you deserve it man because you have a really impressive resume and I've tried to touch on most of it but you've done so much. And of course I'm no scientist but I really do like the exploration of bright minds who have been suppressed in these areas Tesla Thomas Townsend Brown Victor Schauberger just to name a few But the commonality that I see, at least on a basic level is more holistic systems approach and an acknowledgement of the ether. Things that you find important as well. And to kick this off talk to us about these things and what's wrong with conventional physics that has all these bright highly educated minds missing that really juicy stuff?

03:55 Well, the aether about 100 years ago they did an experiment and they interpreted it that there was no aether as a result of the Michelson-Morley experiment. But the thing was that the experiment was done in a certain way and now somebody else has redone the experiment And all they did was rotate the whole apparatus they used 90 degrees so instead of measuring ether flow past the earth They were measuring vertically And now this is proved there is an ether. There were many other experiments that proved there was an ether before that, Also, I happen to confirm a prediction. I had made that there would be in vertical ether flux into the earth That's what generates the Earth's gravity field Hmm But I guess you could pretty much wipe out most of modern physics and you wouldn't have much of a loss Keep Newtonian physics what Newton came up with those equations Maxwell's equations things like that but once you get into quantum mechanics That's completely haywire for example

04:59 Randall Mills has produced a device that gets energy out of water. It's actually able to generate very high temperatures, he gets a megawatt of power out of something it would fit in about the size of a little bigger than your refrigerator and physics says all that's impossible based on quantum mechanics He's saying that the electrons in a water atom are able to jump down to a lower energy state and release that energy. So physics says that's impossible, but if you revise quantum mechanics in the right way which I have done it is possible so the problems with physics are in effect keeping us from having these new technologies

05:48 The ones referring to over unity technologies in the case of randall mills technology he was burning water so you actually getting energy from the water which is something that people might find surprising. that you can get energy from water. I met one fellow at a conference this past summer in Idaho who has developed a car that runs on water, special kinds of spark plugs. All these people at the conference who had these devices they were researching were very afraid how long they would be living

06:29 They sort of keep quiet who they are what you're doing except that this conference talk about it remember the name of a conference, yes i see conference energy science technology conference something like that interesting. Yes this does seem like some of the most dangerous material to get into cuz it upsets the apple cart of a lot of big corporations and just the way things have been for so long and i've heard people suggest that even the patent system itself is in place to kind of send up a red flag whenever someone files for something in these wheelhouses. And then, of course they're visited or co-opted or taken to deep state so yeah I mean this is super fascinating stuff for sure

07:13 Yeah, I used to work at the patent office. At one point they had sent out a directive to all the examiners so this is not illegal by law it's just that head of the patent office was instructing examiners how they wanted them to examine patents and anything that was over unity in other words free energy or produce more energy than used to run it they're supposed to reject the patent. So that's why, you know if they end up following that directive that's why a lot of these patents are getting rejected illegally it's illegal to do that because US law I'm talking about us now i don't know what they do at the other patent offices Europe and so on but in us the law is if there's an invention this new and it works

08:10 and nobody has thought of it before, you're entitled to get a patent. So they're not saying that you can only patent what is green with physics the law was not written that way so unfortunately a lot of examiners are rejecting patents because they don't agree with what the physicists say and the physicists aren't unfortunately they're wrong Interesting so what are the big topics at hand is anti gravity propulsion i really loved your book secrets of anti gravity propulsion and of course it's a super fascinating area, i heard you talk about some of your own developments in the works as well as several versions of this kind of technology and previous interviews but how

08:56 How far back can we take it? Where do we have the first people developing this type of craft as far as you know, was it reverse engineered from crashed alien ships or is there a path of more traditional development. More traditional development because if you look at the work of Townsend Brown which goes back to the early 20th century he was born in 1905 When he was a teenager, instead of going out and playing ball he was in the laboratory working on experiments with electro-gravitics. He's the fellow that developed the field of electro-gravitics. He demonstrated that there is a connection between electric fields and gravitational field so he was able to engineer gravity using electricity. He would put high voltages like 100 or 150 thousand volts

09:47 charging up a capacitor that had heavy dielectric insulator between the two plates and it would cause it to move towards its positive charged side. So he further developed this and he was able to get devices who actually lift off the ground. He would pulse it with high frequency DC pulses, you know actually lift off and then he had other versions that would fly around like a maypole. That was a little different principle that's what you call electrokinetics instead of electrogravitics

10:23 there it's dealing with unbalanced forces due to the ions exerting forces on the craft. So he was approaching the Navy back then, and made demonstrations for the Navy and one story says that he had gone to a base in Hawaii and put a demonstration there with three-foot diameter discs flying around a gymnasium at about 50 foot radius course And it was suspended from the ceiling and these discs would circle around. It was reported in a magazine, Indorabia that they were going several hundred miles per hour. Although this was supposed to be kept quiet. They wanted all the results classified. Of course! So about that time Brown made her report to the Navy called Project Winterhaven as a proposal actually and he was proposing that he could design disc-shaped craft with Mach 3 capability

11:25 which was pretty good in those days, they hadn't achieved Mark III. So back in the 50s this was 1952 that was an amazing unbelievable speed and it says there he has been required not to publish any of his work so that's why you hear about Einstein and not about Townshend Brown Einstein could publish his work and i was wrong i say wrong period with special relativity in general relativity.

12:01 Einstein failed to connect electricity and gravity he was looking for the connection for decades until he died he couldn't figure it out you know there was a connection because in your brown they both work on philadelphia project, maybe try to cover up afterwards by changing rounds resume that had been posted. I guess it was his discharge papers, they changed the record so he was discharged two years earlier. So it wouldn't look like he was in Philadelphia when the Philadelphia experiment was going on. That's the only reason I can suspect that

12:40 motivation well that was one of my favorite parts of your book because a lot of people who are critics of the philadelphia project story said that the logs at the u.s. s eldridge don't match up with the dates of the proposed experiment but it's easy to, fake logs if you're trying to actually cover-up a secret covert project and it seems like brown was involved it's easy to do the same thing to his logs as well Yeah, well the Navy's in charge of whatever documents they put out. Fortunately we have Browns resume which was made public before the Navy made their changes and we know he was in those locations that he was in charge of mine sweeping project they called it that was a cover name He had brought 50 million dollars from England It wasn't charging shipment about gold from england to us

13:35 It wasn't said what it was for, but when you realize about the Philadelphia Project went on just after that. You can figure out what it was and 50 million then was a huge amount of money considering the size of US Defense Department budget back then we were just starting to get involved in the war I guess at that time But you know it's probably good they kept quiet because they did get into some pretty frightening stuff there. Yes and are you alluding to the stories that when the ship dematerialized or went through its dimensional shift and came back whatever happened, a lot of the crew on board were embedded in the equipment of the boat and just apparently died in some very gruesome ways is what you mean?

14:25 I believe it did happen because the physics i developed explains that should have so what's confirming what theory predicts basically if you manipulate gravity which is what they were doing. You can make things first become invisible and then actually dematerialize to do that you have to make a negative gravity field easier said than done i'm sure Yeah, if you can make a G hill rather than G well like the Earth's gravity field is in a gravity well. You should be able to make objects disappear for the same reason this physics theory which I call subquantum kinetics and it had something like 13 confirmations that are documented and even more than I haven't which are predictions that were made and subsequently confirmed

15:23 So I have great confidence in this theory, plus it appears that it existed even in ancient times. And we're not the first to discover this but that's a whole other story! So for the same reason when you get outside of the galaxy where gravity potential goes to higher level, in other words, we are sort of in a gravity well here being in the galaxy if you go out away from the galaxy, gravity potential increases and

15:58 And according to this physics, once you get above a certain threshold then photons will lose energy instead of gain energy. It takes more of an impulse for something to be created in terms of matter creation and this physics... You don't have a Big Bang! You have matter being continuously created and all the data supports the continuous creation cosmology and disproves the big bang cosmology I've written a paper on this and published in the Astrophysical Journal. which is the same one that Hubble published in. And, in that I disproved the Big Bang theory back in 1986 and show that the correct interpretation of cosmological redshift is that light photons coming from a distant galaxy lose energy as they travel and as a result their spectrum changes to a redder wavelength

16:56 the idea that it's due to expansion is incorrect and this has been disproven, is shown to be incorrect in a paper I wrote which didn't receive that much publicity. Astronomy magazine did publish something briefly about it but it didn't change the thinking of mainstream cosmology community I did get letters from some of the renowned astronomers who thanked me for the paper I wrote and were very happy about the conclusions. Of course, they were already having doubts about The Big Bang Theory but for the mainstream, I guess they're just too scared and stuck with the wrong theory and we're still stuck with it unfortunately.

17:44 Yes, so I heard some of your interviews from roughly a year ago and you were talking about developing your own craft using the Lorenz force and looking for some funding. Where is that project now? Is anything developed on that we got the funny we did the test it doesn't work we're going on to something else now that was then this acres ruster version two and three superconducting thruster his first version works adjust the first version puts out a small amount of thrust we were hoping to second and third versions would work better but apparently here again physics, and standard thinking has messed up the day for us because

18:30 The whole invention of the second and third version of his thruster was based on the idea of Lorentz force, that you have a coil winding solenoid. They know that when you put huge amounts of current through a solenoid coil it tends to want to expand radially I hope i'm not getting overly technical. No, I don't think so. And there's two ways they could be occurring one is through Lorentz force where the force is acting perpendicular to the coil, so in a radial direction. And the other is the ampere force where the force acts along the windings, so exactly 90 degrees to Lorentz force and they both increase... amount of force increases with current about the same way

19:19 But physicists chose to interpret as the Lorentz force that are ampere and that's, well the results of our experiment basically show there is no Lorentz force. That there is only amperes force and with amperes you can't generate thrust with that design Well it took a lot of wasn't much money but was sizable amount which an angel donor gave to us do the final test we had a crowdfunding project testing earlier version The positive thing you can say, well we found that the standard view is wrong about the Lawrence force. Yeah I mean these things are gonna be trial and error to a point But there's other things going on that is very interesting as far as free energy and propulsion. I think were at a watershed these things are gonna becoming out very shortly And I think it's gonna be difficult to stop them anyway stop all of em

20:19 do you think that's why we see things like the buzz around disclosure right now at the pentagon having their ufo release time to long stuff coming out now i'm saying lockheed martin is actually gonna launch a podcast to quote bring some stuff up from skunk works and. I mean i'm pretty skeptical but i think maybe their hand is being forced, maybe it's like they have no choice but to disclose some of this otherwise more and more people are gonna realize we've been deceived for a long time and that's probably not. A perspective they want the majority of people to have so why not just roll out and act like its new. Last summer or fall i got a call from somebody in the US space command and they were interested

21:05 if I was willing to work with them to develop electro-gavitics technology, things like this for the military in an open sense so it wouldn't be classified. And I told them yes since then I haven't heard back from them but they had said that there's been a change higher up in thinking and that they're ready to be more open about some of these Technologies have classified so what you're saying is very possible. That is very exciting and i guess it seems like a lot of this development, is clearly within the grasp of human hands if they're open minded enough to find it maybe we don't need a crash at roswell but i guess i would ask. What are your thoughts on et involvement either then or now in the past because a lot of guests do talk about yet were talking about pretty practical things that seem like man can achieve

22:06 Well, I agree with what's been said that there were extraterrestrials in the craft crash. Was that what you were wondering? Essentially, just these technologies in general you hear rumors that they're developed from reverse engineered crafts and that's where the transistor came from and most of our modern technology is derived from that incident but then on the other side you do hear people saying A lot of these crafts are probably man-made. They're from a breakaway civilization, they're from Lockheed Martin and deep state projects so I guess it can be both you know if this technology exists then it could either be brought from elsewhere or just develop naturally but there is kind of that split in the community of trying to figure out if it's one or the other but maybe it's both yeah it's both

22:58 Brown's technology ended up in the b2 bomber that's my book couple chapters devoted to that. I first came out with a paper back in ninety three i think it was conference and, i sent a copy to aviation week and space technology which is the journal magazine where the black project scientists had spilled the beans on a lot of classified technologies including the B2 and they're the ones that said that, they charge leading edge of the wing on the b2 and. They dump the opposite charged ions out the back in exhausts and based on that i was able to realize it was brown's technology we were using because he had gotten two patents

23:48 I'm just type of technology and it was easy to see that's exactly what brown was proposing my paper was sent to his sister who is married at that time to follow who had flown the b2. It was said he was so angry after reading my paper that you wouldn't speak to his wife for a week so, All the feedback i've gotten is that I was right on, I mean have no way to check for sure because the whole matter classified from little things you hear. Things people have leaked about the be too giving off a very strong electric charge it could kill u if you touch dead after landing that's why they have grounded before opening up playing

24:37 Things like this, you realize there's a lot of truth to this. And it's unfortunate if NASA had this technology they could have avoided the Columbia space disaster and I had proposed to them to use Brown's technology to deflect air around the wing but before the disaster happened then they weren't that interested so we pay the price for our stupidities. It seems like we do! In the case of the Roswell crash You've heard of arts parts the skin of the craft that was mailed to our bell and he gave it then two different researchers to analyze. Have you heard about this just vaguely but yeah tell us how that story ended up

25:24 The son of one of the people who had been to the crash site when it happened was there farm managed to pick up a few pieces to keep from self. They were supposed to give anything i picked but he happened to keep a few pieces and years later so that sun sends this to our bell, and they analyze it, they find its layers of bismuth and magnesium or something like this. Microns thin layers one on top of the other like sandwiched. And a whole thing is only maybe 16th of an inch thick but it's extremely strong in light

26:07 So, in my book, In Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion I show a connection to explain what the significance of that is and believe it's what they call phase conjugating material which means that you can develop force on if if you expose it to the right microwave frequency. So it's possible they were using microwave propulsion in the craft in this way. It is really difficult to know without knowing more about what they found, but there are crafts that use microwave beam propulsion and I discuss this in the book. It was called Project Skyfall that was started back in the late 40s right after World War II. It was worked on at Rocketdyne

26:56 And then later Hughes aircraft took over the work. Hughes was dissolved so we don't know where that went, but this would explain these triangular craft that you see hovering and have three luminous circles at each corner. So what those are are their microwave beam generators and you don't see them but they're creating a beam that goes down to the earth. And it's a special kind of being, they make it shaped like sawtooth wave rather than a sine wave And it's able to actually create a force both on the ground and on the craft. So, it's as if the craft is supported on these legs that you don't see so to us it seems magical but when you realize these things are just like solid rods under the craft it doesn't seem so far out anymore.

27:54 And this all came to me after somebody heard a presentation i made at conference where is talking about browns work and he came up to me want to send me a packet of information which she did apparently his boss where he worked and worked on that project, i had told him a few things wasn't supposed to but it had leaked a few things and then put them in touch with the bosses supervisor on that project who is still working on the project. And give me more information even though they thought they were getting that much information out

28:32 With what this fellow sent me, I was able to reverse engineer the whole project. Wow! So right now you give me a 50 million and team of scientists and i could build you one of these. Well that was gonna be one of my questions because Thomas Townsend brown died nineteen eighty five so that's not that long ago and of course people talk a lot about tesla in the more exotic applications of what he could have been working on this lot of rumors but test is a little too far removed for us to have like footage and that sort of thing but not in the case of town said brown

29:10 I wonder how this thing was swept under the rug, because there has to be people even alive today who have seen his work seeing his crafts in action probably footage of it. Are their models still around? are they showing up at these conferences or anything? Well people have been duplicating his work There was one fellow brought a model that was probably one the better i've seen he had discs about three inches in diameter They were going around and around so it demonstrates the principle but i don't know if anybody's built a big one similar to browns maypole demonstrations. It requires somebody willing to put in all money do it,

29:50 You could also make, I suppose model airplanes fly better with attached onto them. Sure! So...I guess i also wanted to ask you a little bit more about ether because you mentioned the detection of the ether but what is the function of the ether in the natural world? We hear about it so little that I'm sure a lot of us are in the dark but it sounds provocative because it's tied into so many other kinda fringy ideas and things like alchemy and transmutation but i am curious what is its natural function? Oh it sustains the universe. It's not a static substance, its like your body you know your body has got all these reactions going on

30:35 Molecules going from one place to another, things transform from one thing into another. And that's what's happening in the ether except that's not at a chemical level, it's at the etheric level just like you have different molecules or atoms, you have different types of etherons as I call them which is a new concept The 19th century ether was all the same. This substance is considered to be all the same and inert, it would just sat there waves would be mechanically conducted through it now. The ether that I'm talking about in subquantum kinetics is what's called a reaction-diffusion either which means that the etherons are both reacting and diffusing through space

31:23 If you write the right equation, right recipe of how these react. You can produce what we call solitons or in physics particles. Mathematics would be called a soliton but it's an analogy of a subatomic particle We actually have done simulations on this model which I call Model G. Model G is the recipe of how these ether reactions take place they produce a particle that matches exactly what they found in particle scattering experiments about 18 years ago, I think. They did the experiments to find how the neutron and proton field looks at the center of a particle

32:12 And what they found matched exactly what subquantum kinetics says, that the field doesn't go to infinity at the center. It's sort of like a top hat rounded off at the center which disproves the formation black holes right there you can't form black holes if the gravity field is formed in that way This is another thing that's ignored by physics and astronomy. In other words, from these equations are just three equations it sort of like the genetic code of the universe you're able to generate everything because if you can generate particles they have charged spin and mass then that's the main goal of physics is to explain the formation those particles because once they're formed

33:02 at least for the part of physics dealing with creation, anyway. Cosmology... Once you've created a particle showing how particles are created just repeat that up to million times billion trillion quadrillion and you got the matter that forms universe this is the beauty of subquantum kinetics is its simplicity because we begin with the genetic code so speak And that genetic code, you can play with it if you find it. It needs some tweaking and you can make changes. Right now its explained an enormous number of things plus it's able to explain all these advanced technologies. Explain Randall Mills' SunCell technology. It predicts the connection between electricity and gravitation in other words Brown's technology. The other thing is that

33:59 It shows that we live in an open system rather than closed system for the universe. The reason they give for free energy being impossible, they say well you can't create energy out of nothing but that's only true for closed systems Physicists will admit if there's an open system then yes you can create energy out of nothing. But they want to say that the physical universe is closed and that's a wrong assumption, why should the rest of us pay the price not having these advanced technologies just because it says want to believe in reverse close system

34:42 Amen there's consequences for the stupidities of the physics community and i say this is a physicist myself, my colleagues sure. So you're a proponent of either theory you developed your own theory of gravity talked about stars and their energy production and pretty unconventional ways i'm curious, what are your thoughts on something like the possibility of hollow planets or that they might have some different qualities than we've learned about in school books. Did you have in mind a planet? Well, Earth. But I assume that however they're comprised would generally be applicable across the board but i guess let's start with our own well i'm not a proponent of hollow earth theories mm-hmm I stick with subquantum kinetics and if sub quantum kinetics predicts it then In this case there is no way sub quantum kinetics predicts it

35:42 you could say or imagine, okay suppose the center of the earth is not molten how that would happen I wouldn't know. To be honest i don't agree with the theory. Fair enough! I was just curious because you know you do talk about unconventional things and that's one of them? The other theory is the earth has grown now that subquantum kinetics does predict ah there's an expansion in the size of the Earth very slowly and they've measured this with lasers It's currently about 10 times less than you would need to explain the growth of the planet, to explain a separation of continents from Pangeum. One theory is that if you shrink the Earth to half its size all the continents will fit together, the coastlines fit together so you don't need any fancy assumptions about plate tectonics causing all this

36:42 this whole thing could be due to slow expansion of the Earth. Well that's fascinating, I mean what do you think is at the root cause of that expansion? Is it again this effect of being in an open system and is material generated from the middle? Well...I haven't really explained on broadcast here very much about subquantum kinetics It replaces a big bang theory And in its place You get creation through continuous creation. Matter is being continuously created over the trillions of years, not 13 billion years we're talking now about trillions of years this can be going on because

37:21 because you don't have the limits that you have in standard cosmology any longer, because you've tossed out Big Bang theory, special relativity and general relativity plus black hole theories and many other things. These are all incorrect can easily be disproven which I have done in my books. My other book Subquantum Kinetics goes into more detail. Not only is matter or particles being created in space but they're being created inside planets too Even the sun huge amount of matter being created every year inside the sun in the case of the sign the sun burns part of it. 90% of this energy is fusion according to sub quantum kinetics the other 10 percent is what i call jenna spontaneously generated some of the matter that's created inside the sun

38:17 Will help to the ninety percent of fusion energy so that goes into gets burned. What part of that also gets expelled in this solar wind and then you have some left over it causes a growth of the sun, So you have to change all of what they understand in astronomy when you go to subquantum kinetics. Because stars like the Sun can now grow and pretty soon turn into blue supergiant, like a 30 solar mass star. This is totally different from the standard view which says that stars like the Sun will eventually exhaust its fuels burn out and then have maybe supernova explosion or nova

39:05 end up as a dead star. This is all baloney, this is part of the closed system view that physicists put out. Interesting and you mentioned earlier that you suspect that ancient people knew about the ether and subquantum kinetics to some extent I know that's in your book Earth Under Fire I believe? Well Genesis Of The Cosmos Gotcha okay now as far as I understand you say the clues are in astrology and tarot is that right Right. I go into that in modern Genesis of the cosmos, the way that happened...I had been explaining my theory to a friend and she knew about the tarot and she said well it sounds like the tarot that i should take a course to learn about which I did this was in Cambridge Massachusetts right there in Harvard Square they had a course

39:59 I was attending every week, they were doing an Arcanum every week. And every week I'd see another part of my theory being explained to me! It turns out the first 11 Tarot Arcana... This is like the Marseilles deck, the original version because they tried to change it and then by changing it they messed up so don't go to the newer tarot decks you should go to the original The first 11 Arcana explain theory of the creation of the universe. We know this dates back to at least ancient Egypt, where the gypsies are said to have gotten it from the Egyptian Magi who were instructing the priests, initiates into the mysteries of Osiris and this was the science they were teaching them. They were explaining meanings

40:52 what they call the gallery of the Sphinxes, in a chamber under the Sphinx. Supposedly it had these... The instruction went on there. This appears to be very ancient science. You find it in the Zodiac. Esoterically, the esoteric tradition is that there's a connection between astrology and the Tarot as far as matching up the signs to the arcana. And so I started looking at the zodiac too I found that there to the science which are psychological personality descriptions if you look at him as universal principles so you're using analogy part of the mind which not everybody can use cuz not everyone

41:39 is adept at using analogic thinking and really to do this kind of work you need to be good at that. Because there's some people that have difficulty seeing, just like you have people who are colorblind, there's people who had difficulty seeing analogies from one circumstance to another. Now I'm a systems theorist so i use this all the time. That's what system theorists do is they bring ideas from one field into another by making analogies Right and i think this is really interesting because when I've heard you talk about it before you mentioned as an example where we see this in the zodiac would be that sagittarius's arrow, is aimed at the heart of the scorpion or at least that's been written before i guess and fifteen thousand years ago that era what have lined up. And that kinda gets us into a guest a warning of super waves which is another major aspect of your work

42:36 Yeah, and that's what led me to the superwave theory. I found this message encoded in the zodiac here are these constellations that are distributed across the sky which is where the zodiac is and these two pointers up there, Saturnus and Scorpio as two arrows if you look where they're pointing at their pointing at the galactic center essentially And the myth says that he's aiming at the heart of the scorpion, which is a star Antares. So you get a sighting there between the arrow pointer and the heart and you see that currently the arrow is not aimed at the heart but back about 16 thousand years ago it did go through the heart because stars are moving. That's why we have to see the positions of the stars back in time

43:25 At that time it was passing within just a few tenths of the degree of the galactic center. That's how accurate they were showing us, and that was eight times better than Shapley had done it with the Mount Polymer telescope. So here is something, a myth at least 5,000 years old, telling us stuff we only found today using radio telescopes... well Mount Polymer telescope and later with a radio telescope where you will get closer fix What the message showed, they used geometry to show the idea of the arrow launched from the galactic center actually arriving at Earth. You do that with geometry one radium concept is demonstrated there all this is explained in the book The date of the arrow going through the heart would be the date of the eruption of the galactic center That's what I concluded

44:20 I found that this wave of energy must have come by the Earth, it wasn't just something that happened out there 23 thousand light years away. But it's something actually traveled to us and on the way triggered the two closest supernova remnants, the two closest supernovas to Earth, to the solar system, the Vela Supernova and the Crab Supernova they line up on this event horizon, which is a wave of energy that would have gone out from the galactic center at the speed of light. Knowing that this happened you can see what's going on out there in space because it's... This wave of energy still going out and its creating radio waves which astronomers call the Galactic Radio Background Emission. Hmm! I mean that is fascinating and to think that

45:13 This myth and code something that would have applied fifteen thousand years ago i mean is that an implication that somehow we were at the same level of development that we are now fifteen thousand years ago. Well, the Egyptians say in their myths that the science there, the sciences were taught to them by Thoth who came from above. He was a Ibis-headed god that's way they represented him so this could be a reference to ET and an ET origin for the physics

45:49 This I would believe, because the stuff that they have encoded in the Zodiac alone would require technologies like what we use to find a 3 degree Kelvin background radiation. We had developed superconductors helium cool detectors computers radio telemetry rocketry to get the satellite up above the atmosphere all all this, and yet they have encoded the hot and cold spots of 3° Kelvin radiation in the zodiac. Here we're talking about a very advanced technology. They encoded stuff in the story of Atlantis. Atlantis everyone takes it literally but if you study Plato, it's supposed to be taken allegorically

46:35 And if you understand sub-quantum kinetics and reaction diffusion systems, you realize Atlantis is a myth about the creation of a subatomic particle. So it's a lot smaller actually than people think. There is the other part of the Atlantis myth which isn't in different book, Timmy's book which talks about the flood and there that's also allegorical and there Atlantis represents the North American ice sheet which when it melted, it created a huge flood of water. And I've explained how this happened both in my dissertation and now I published the paper on this last year, Referee Journal where I explain about the glacier wave phenomenon which is how these waves of water would have descended from the ice sheet because the ice sheet was up to two-and-a-half three kilometers high at the center

47:28 During warm periods when the sun was melting the ice, you had these lakes form on the surface. and you would have had dam failures, and floods of water coursing across the ice sheet. And as they did they would create a domino effect and create a huge wave that would sweep down the ice sheet gaining energy by time it reaches the edge. You're up to maybe 300 meters high traveling at few hundred miles per hour maybe 1000 kilometers long wall of water

48:04 and it would have the force to actually surmount mountains that are two kilometers high. This would be the origin of the great flood myth, which you find in all cultures around the world and I go into this in Earth Under Fire. I have a whole chapter just about the flood, I think 2 chapters one dealing with the European and Asian myths and other with Indian myths North American Indians have a lot of myths about the flood. Right, yeah it seems like you've put together many many pieces of the puzzle Of course our time is winding down together but I did want to ask you maybe just to revisit the conversation we started with

48:48 When it comes to the free energy devices you mentioned that are right on our doorstep perhaps, is there a particular group or two that you think are the closest? Or is there any kind of resources you could give us to look into maybe some of the other Thomas Townsend Brown's of our age. The rebels of science that are close to actually releasing things that are very exciting Yeah, I can't talk about that. I don't want to jeopardize anybody there but they do exist and know they exist and i believe my prediction to be correct that we're on the verge of a new era and it's a matter of a lot of people making breakthrough at the same time so no one can get stopped

49:36 Yes, but pretty soon you'll have a machine in your house that will be generating energy You'll be feeding back into the grid and getting paid for it. That sounds great I mean i've heard those claims made but i'm still waiting yeah keep patient it's coming I do hope you are right and well Paul this is really been amazing just so much information your clearly a really smart guy digging into some pretty big questions and ideas what are some the next things you're gonna be working on. Right now i'm trying to prepare the paper on the nandorthal extinction going through a lot of ice core data

50:16 And when you bring all the data together is when you realize it hits you in the face. And that's a thing, it's very interdisciplinary this kind of thing that system scientists do so here I'm bringing data from ice core field from anthropology from oceanography the carbon 14 where comes oceanography and then knowledge about super waves The other thing I'd like to mention, I guess today we're recording this. Stephen Hawking died and i just want to say that I believe he was wrong. He's greatly overrated, he's getting a lot of publicity now but the black hole idea that came up with is wrong can be easily disproven. The point is that stars if they go into collapse phase

51:04 they end up generating so much energy spontaneously in their cores, there's no way that it can collapse. And the other thing is even if they did collapse as the star collapses, gravity field doesn't go to infinity like they said it goes to zero at some point it's not going have any energy to make itself collapse and I'll go into this sub-quantum kinetics for anybody who's interested Wow yeah i love that systems approach it almost seems like the sciences of been set up to be compartmentalize so that we don't have this cross interdisciplinary type of work. Well system theory should be taught in every university and its not unfortunately ludwig number lampey the father of systems theory,

51:49 said that ideally a person should take at least ideally four years of systems theory and then specialize in a field like physics sociology this way they have the big picture to start with and They're able to bring stuff from other fields the way things are done now. It's like everyone speaks different language They don't know what the other guy is talking about right so discoveries are made one field, and they don't come into the other field So that's why it's important to get systems theory taught, looking at these new approaches. I'm with you man and this has been really awesome we did touch on several of your books but do remind people about your websites both contain a ton of information a person can get lost for days i would know but lotsa great stuff there so where should people go to dig deeper into these things that we've talked about?

52:44 A website where I sell my books and also videos, and also has a lot of videos free for download. Not only videos but papers for download is etheric.com. That's E-T-H-E-R-I-C dot com And also there's a video there I'm selling for $20, which is Starburst Foundation video which explains the origin of the universe according to subquantum kinetics. It's about 30-40 minutes. Excellent video it's made with NASA clips and NASA images If you want to really know the truth about how the universe was created, this video gives you a quick overview. And then my other site is starburstfound.org that's the Starburst Foundation website and it also has a lot of information on all these topics superwaves subquantum kinetics extra-trustful communication

53:43 and feeling tone theory, which I had also done some work in thought formation psychology area. Hmm Wow well excellent man clearly you're on to a lot of complex things and i really respect the work that you're doing out there keep it up and hopefully we can talk again in the future okay thank you greg thank you Sweet champagne supernova, ladies and gentlemen! In that deluxe apartment in the sky. Paul LaViolette 70 years young I'm really glad he was willing to talk to me. I sought him out because i really wanted a focus of show on anti-gravitic crafts and Paul seems like one of the best people for that subject

54:28 I'm barely smart enough to do it, but i love to talk about the things that physics leaves out. I love talking about ether so I'm a happy guy! You know? I also figured hey...I've never heard Paul talk about hollow planets but let me toss that out there see if he tosses it back because ether new theories of gravity doubting the models we have in a variety of ways I thought maybe we'd hit a bullseye there But it's completely okay that he doesn't see that as a possibility I think there's a ton to like about Paul's work. I have a huge amount of respect for him, we talked a bit off-air and i know that he is a little cynical but who wouldn't be? You spend your life working on very complex science and new models digging up the evidence to support them being told that you need more peer-reviewed papers then you get those peer reviewed publications and you still feel like your life's work has had little impact

55:22 Man, and even if you don't agree 100% with every aspect of Paul's work as a human being you have to have some respect for the journey. And a little empathy for a person who might not feel as appreciated as they might've hoped as their earthly story arc starts to come to a close Of course with some of the things going on right now I worry that aspects of the conspiracy community have gotten a little anti-science or anti intellectual and that's not a good way to be. I mean, i'm anti establishment? I even think as we talked about today spending too long in the system can leave you brainwashed and indoctrinated to think a certain way! We know this

56:03 But as long as you can navigate that course without falling into those traps, You gotta respect the person who swims in those waters. I mean, I wouldn't even know the first thing about writing a peer-reviewed paper or even a book for that matter! So what do i know really? I'm rambling but you know the show to me has always been about the exploration of different possibilities and lately it seems like i'm seeing a lot of comments from people. Who have settled on one conclusion and are now dismissive of anyone else who doesn't fit within it and i don't love that But anyway, another curiosity of mine more related to the material is that of course I'd have a much better understanding of physics to find the answer to this question. but it seems strange to me that we have these laws of physics We have the laws of thermodynamics and we could even toss in the laws of gravity here as well. We have all these frameworks for how things are supposed to work

56:58 And these frameworks are obviously flawed, but they do hold up well enough that thousands of scientists never really see door number three. It's very interesting to me how they could keep people quarantined like that in that mental space but clearly that is the case! That's what happens I know at one point Paul did mention using NASA data and imagery in our super wave conversation, which would be a trigger phrase for some people. But i don't think that's a detail worth obsessing over. I find NASA to be just another wing of the American military essentially. I don't trust much of what comes out of them and obviously our guest today draws some very different conclusions and is also upset by the suppression of many different things under the scientific umbrella

57:42 And that's enough for me. I would rather appreciate our common ground." I think Paul should be really proud of his body of work, it is diverse and not a lot of people are going to dig into this depth on these kind of topics. I love the things he has to say about the ancient world how he sees the zodiac encoded with some of the same science that he's worked on Those things alone, on top of antigravitic crafts, pegging Thomas Townsend Brown to the Philadelphia Experiment, aether physics. I mean all of that is one helluva wild ride but then to ice that cake you throw in his work and theories on pulsars? That's not nothing! To boldly assert that some stars we see in the night sky are artificial and act as beacons for emerging civilizations to recognize decode and possibly respond too

58:32 This is exactly the kind of thing that I want to be pondering. Well, that and that the inner earth houses civilizations far older and far more advanced than anything on the surface world And inside as a robust and vibrant reality of abundance A city of mystics beneath Tibet fairy lands in northern Europe and maybe even Willy Wonka's chocolate factory But that's my own can of worms done pack Paul ain't got time for that But in all seriousness, if you found value in this show reach out to Paul via the comments section of his website. He mentioned to me that is his preferred method of correspondence That being that a person read a piece on the website and then if you have some questions or feedback You leave comments there and thats how he likes to talk to people

59:15 But also, if you have any interest in his diverse range of books. We kind of touched on most of them but how nice would it be to be 70 years old and wake up and feel the warm glow of a spike in sales for the books you've worked on for years? I don't mean for this to sound so sales pitchy but that feeling of validation is such a priceless gift And we have opportunities to provide people with those rare moments all the time Every show we do really But I think there's probably an equation somewhere that shows how valuable those feelings are based on the depth of work times age of the person to the square root of how impactful the adoption of your conclusions would be. And given that Paul thinks a galactic superwave could be in our future, that's pretty damn impactful

1:00:03 I don't know but i think he makes a convincing case and it was very serious about his work in research you want to be very academic about it gotta respect that, i don't know really what else would support the samples use found in the ice cores and other evidence i got no idea. But then we talk about ancient aliens and the mythologies that suggest that beings helped lead people down into the earth in times of surface hazards. There has to be some catalyst for these higher level beings to even know about us, and furthermore to even care! So I see a few scenarios They're already in the earth and when they know trouble is coming, they lead some friendly tribes down to their neck of the woods. Or this help comes from some type of guardianship be it a spiritual one or a multi-dimensional one or whatever

1:00:51 Or in the galactic superwave scenario, it's such a big event that the implications are so obvious to a wide range of civilizations that the most advanced would probably just get out in front of it and help the rest of us. Like we might do if a volcano blew or a forest fire broke out or BP spilled a bunch of oil on the Gulf You know? We'd get out there and try to get as many ignorant creatures out of the way as we could I'm spitballing here. But, I could see that as a scenario in the insanely wide range of paradigms i'm willing to consider and if you didn't hear the plus show the galactic super wave stuff might not make sense

1:01:30 You should probably just sign up already. But in this week's episode we get deep into some of the things I'm glossing over now, The galactic superwave threat Paul's work on pulsars and the idea that they're intergalactic intelligently designed signals or beacons for emerging civilizations to decode crop circles and force field beam technology the prospect of a federation in the cosmos exotic technology used to bring down twin towers yeah he goes there Also the technology we've seen in events like the Norway Spiral and other strange Ring of Light style rocket launches we've seen in recent years. Blue Beam and Black Budget technologies ability to create illusions, subspace... Yeah remember that term subspace there's an upcoming THC all about the idea of hidden spaces And maybe someone knows about them and keeps them hidden

1:02:22 But also we talked with Paul about how Ancient Man dealt with the galactic superwave, underground tunnel networks and the Bosnian pyramid. There you have it! Come on over to Plus Water's Fine. Five bucks a month, 60 bucks a year and you get to enjoy so much more out of this show, out of me, and out of The Higher Side guests So I hope you liked that, especially the anti-gravity stuff. Thanks for listening! Thanks for being so cool and of course thanks to Paul for dumbing down his complex work for someone like me Your move Quarantiners of Secret Sciences Pulsar Placers Crop Circle Makers and Galactic Superwave Humanities Savers... your fucking move. Woke up this morning with light in my eyes

1:03:16 And then realized it was dark outside It was like coming down from the sky Who knows who or what Must be those strangers that come every night Whose saucers shaped light put people uptight

1:03:52 Leave blue-green footprints that glow in the dark I hope they get home Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along? Don't do anything wrong Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along to the high side

1:04:34 I woke up this morning was feeling quite weird. I had flies in my beard, my toothpaste was smeared. I opened my window they'd written my name said so long we'll see you again. Mr. Spaceman, won't you please take me along? I won't do anything wrong Hey, spaceman Won't you please take me along the higher side Hey, mr. spaceman Won't you please take me along

1:05:44 I won't do anything wrong Hey, Mr. Spaceman Won't you please take me along the high side?