Dr. Jack Kruse | Light, Water, Magnetism & The Sacred Cows of Health

00:00 Breaking in before the show today to say this is an interview I've wanted to get for quite some time. I think Dr Jack Cruz's work is very interesting and rings very true to me, And he's constantly sharing new papers and studies on social media that are finally catching up to where he has been for years now He recently moved to El Salvador and if you have seen any of his current interviews, he likes to do them outside soaking up the sun And he should practice what you preach and all that. But it's oftentimes not the best environment for sound quality as we were getting started, I definitely had that feeling and I kind of just let it all go until about 10 minutes in and I stopped him and said yeah man, I'm sorry but you got to take it inside We had weed whackers and cars going by and birds It just wasn't working

00:51 Luckily, we have a great editor who can take those sections and strip out all the background noise. But it does cause distortion in his voice. The good news is it's only the first 10 minutes and only the sections with really annoying background noises so it is what it is big thanks to our editor for doing his best but the first rule of audio is that you can't really unbake the cake and you need to get a better initial recording But whenever we have something like this, I got to jump in before the show starts and let you know that it's not the whole two hours. It's something I addressed rather quickly on this one so the first 10 minutes only apologies, apologies but i think content wise we got a great one here So lets get into it! I hope you enjoy! Puppet Masters almost surely has clearly maybe something there until you've thoroughly tested every last course just

02:00 That's true, Dr. Seuss! Hello, cool cats and kittens doing the thing from the sunshine state. I'm Greg Carlwood and we've seen how Western medicine has slowly sucked the air out of all the alternatives by centralizing the AMA compromising the education of aspiring doctors and dominating what the public thinks it knows about the paradigm of proper health And when that hasn't been enough they're happy to turn the regulatory agencies loose on any new successful practice or technology that begins to gain traction

02:52 Fast forward to the present and chronic disease has never been more pervasive. Autism, anxiety, depression addiction and all the rest of it are all routinely rising to new levels And there's no signs that anyone in a position of power sees any reason to advocate for the sort of major changes we need To get us trending in the right direction! And the chances of a super necessary widespread paradigm shift are few and far between Clearly the fruits of this medical industrial complex are pretty rotten, but for now we can still find places outside the system to look for insight and guidance if we decide to be so bold. And one of those places is with the work of today's powerhouse guest Dr Jack Cruz

03:31 Dr. Cruz is a neurosurgeon who had a major awakening in 2007 when he tore his meniscus when he weighed 357 pounds! He went down a rabbit hole testing new ideas on himself along the way and realized that so much of modern medicine and our thoughts about health & wellness are not applicable to how humans function in the wider natural ecosystem He's the author of the EpiPaleo Prescription and the CEO of The Cruise Longevity Center, as well as being a thorn in the side of The Big Machine whose main message is that true health boils down to light water and magnetism. And getting these things right is far more important than anything else including what you eat!

04:11 These are the main mechanisms that drive our symbiotic relationship with the natural system we live within. And maybe deriving all our medical knowledge from isolated experimentation in sterilized labs under blue light in an EMF soup was never that great of an idea! Who knew? Well, here's one guy who did. The sacred cow slayer Bitcoin bull and nature circadian clock calibrator putting us on the path of the black swan mitochondriac all the way from El Salvador Dr Jack Cruz how the hell are you? Pretty good! How about you? Oh I can't complain it's a good day to be a bitcoin fan

04:49 It's always a good day to be a Bitcoin fan. That's true, and this is a real treat! Big thanks to your protege Jackie Jo Lee for helping me make it happen I know you get many of these kind of requests but to give the unfamiliar a sense of your work the big overarching premise seems to be that we need to better understand the important laws and principles of nature largely in terms of those three things light water and magnetism If we want to optimize the function of our own bodies, everything in this ecosystem has a function but you don't see the relationships when you pull things into the lab to be studied. I guess can you talk to us about some of these observations of the important systems of nature and how we can utilize them to optimize our health? Well i mean the easiest way for a newbie to get a world's eye view of this is to look at

05:41 the third rock from the Sun and then look at the one which is the fourth rock of the Sun that Elon Musk wants to go to. Both planets have light, both planets have water albeit the water on Mars is locked in the polar ice caps and then the third issue is Earth has a magnetosphere and Mars doesn't. Mars is a dead red planet so what does that tell you? Two out of three isn't good enough to support the life that's on the third rock of the sun Elon Musk has the fervent belief that life got evolved on this planet, let's move it to Mars. And he thinks that's a really good idea. I would tell you that I understand his idea as an explorer tapping into Christopher Columbus, Vasco da Gama and Magellan but when you realize these spacecraft are going to be manned by sentient beings who have evolved on this planet

06:42 i think you're asking for big time problems can't like the promise we see with google technology i think the biases of. Creators of both technology and nature are evident in the outcomes that u get when you begin to realize everything on earth is optimized around those three things and it turns out some of those things are much more complex than others And when you see it for yourself your first time as a patient, and you see how these things can get you better without the need for pharmaceutical intervention. It becomes pretty obvious that you don't have a pharmaceutical deficit usually have an environmental deficit that actually retunes your mitochondrial DNA in your RNA and DNA so that you wind up in the sausage grinder that is centralized hospital.

07:39 Yes, and I wanted to ask you about some examples of where we see these three pillars coming into play. Some people reference storms the water being kind of electrolyzed within a storm obviously there's lightning that's our natural expression of highly electrical environment but do you see some of these three pillars coming into play in some observable actions of our natural environment what are some ones that people might take for granted? Well, I mean the one you just brought up is a good one. Although it's pretty complex for a newbie to get but we'll go down that route because it's pretty operational You said you're in Florida and I'm El Salvador so you can experience this in Florida pretty much anytime Everybody knows that the sun has a solar wind that comes and hits Earths magnetosphere

08:28 and that creates the auroras at the poles, I think that's not controversial. What you may not know is that there are magnetic field lines that come down on Earth to the equator and it distributes all of that energy from the solar wind this way. You don't see auroras, the light release like you do at the poles of the equator but what is the result of that light power? It's called electrical storms thunderstorms so anybody who lives in Florida has the experience especially in the summer and the winter when the sun is very powerful that they get these thunderstorms that happen every hour it rains like crazy and then it stops and the sun comes back out well the same thing happens in El Salvador except the storm's here

09:10 are much more violent and they're more powerful. Here's the interesting thing that you don't see too much in Florida because all of the areas are built up but you do see here in El Salvador, see behind me these are volcanoes and most of the lava that's in this area is basalt lava so it's black. So when we get these storms, storms tend to happen during the day or at dusk the voltage or the electrical storms tend to hit the black volcanic lava. The next day you come out, you have unbelievable amounts of electron flow coming out of the black sand now in the Emerald Coast in Florida, you know that the sand is white sand. You still get electrons to flow out of there but if you were to actually measure

09:56 those issues, you'd find that the power on a black sand beach is greater than it is on a white sand beach. And I think most people have had this experience even in Florida. You're driving around your black Mercedes-Benz and a white Mercedes-Benz and you put your cell phone on it. Cell phone gets the temperature warning much quicker on the black sand that does on the white sand beach. Same thing is true when you walk on it with your feet walking on a black sand beach in strong sunlight is very powerful But what people don't realize is these electrical storms create an electrical tension in the ionosphere that gets transmitted to the Earth. The Sun is a cathode ray, that cathode ray hits the planet it can happen in form of sunlight or it can happen as a form of electrical storms. That energy's transmitted to the ground so by walking on the ground free electrons come up off the ground most people have no earthly idea

10:47 that the physics behind grounding actually is hardcore in biology. You can measure those currents, you know and you'll find that the currents in El Salvador are greater than the currents that are present on the beaches of Destin and a lot of the ideas that are buried, you know, in a lot of the work that I write especially about melanin biology is actually present in black and white sand because black things, black semiconductors Absorb more light than white semiconductors do that's not shocking to any electrical engineer They know that problem is it's a little bit shocking To people who may be sitting on the beach listening this and don't realize that there's a difference Different parts of the world so that means when we go back from my original analogy for you between earth and mars

11:36 but that means that there's aspects of Earth that are like Mars and you have that experience too, not in Florida. But if you go to the other 28th latitude opposite Florida which would be Arizona it's called arid zona for a reason because it's in the middle of Sonoran Desert and a desert acts much like Mars does. In other words, a geopathic stress zone where the Earth's magnetic flux is not as powerful And that's the reason why, you know, the panhandle of Florida doesn't look like a desert. It's filled with pine trees it's filled with lush growth. Why? Because photosynthesis just like mitochondrial respiration operates exactly the same way with light. Light is a photosynthetic story so things that live in deserts don't do well on earth while the whole planet of Mars is a desert so why the hell would we want to go there these are

12:32 simple little ideas that people may not pay attention to. And when you think about it from this perspective, you start to ask yourself questions. So does that mean after a bad thunderstorm in Florida that I want to get out and walk on the edge of the beach because I'm going to get lot more free electrons? The answer is yes. You also notice you'll sleep really good on those days too and you won't blame your vacation in Florida doing this on stress relief It turns out it's actually called electron relief because the more electrons you absorb, the more light your body can bury in the water networks of your body and actually that improves the circadian timing mechanism in you. And anything that improves the circadian timing mechanism to you builds wellness and actually builds longevity

13:20 I love it. Great explanation! So to talk about food on the earth, i heard you say that all food webs on earth are broken down to photosynthesis light rays from the sun slow down when they hit chlorophyll and when it gets slowed down it turns light energy into mass and food is basically an electromagnetic barcode of sunlight And that's really interesting. Obviously there are other ways mass forms, because I don't think we have chlorophyll in our bodies but this idea of light being like a primary carrier of so many things that create our reality i just think is really fascinating Well there actually is no other way to create mass just so you know that CERN has actually proven that

14:06 And we know that you do have a form of chlorophyll in you. You may not realize it's called hemoglobin, in fact if you look at them side by side they look identical the only difference is the center atom of chlorophyll is magnesium and the center atom inside your nitrite cage is iron that's why one is green and one is red and it turns out the difference between those two metal atoms is the number of electrons that they have again back to the photoelectric effect So, you do have other chemicals in you that actually act like chlorophyll. Melanin being the biggest one and melanin absorbs all frequencies of light so is animal photosynthesis possible? The answer is yes! That's actually how a lot of your mitochondrial biology works. You need to realize that every bit of food on this planet links back to the sun. It's never a food story it's always a story light and you have to realize that

15:04 For example, I posted something about a week ago on Twitter that's now blown up with a lot of the food gurus because they were kind of stunned at this. If you get in red light which is the dominant part of sunlight 43% of sunlight is red it reduces your blood glucose by 27%. Remember, this is not eating anything at all. It'll just reduce your blood glucose now let's flip the switch and say okay let's block the red lets block the UV and lets put you in blue light kind of like you are right now in your house You'll find out when you read the papers out there that increases your insulin and glucose levels by 65 to 70% without you putting a Twinkie in your mouth How is light doing this?

15:49 Those papers have been in the literature for a long period of time. But you have to remember when your modus operandi, how you make money is to sell people lies about food diet and exercise. You're not going to go looking for papers that actually introduce another variable that you never considered and it turns out light is a big consideration. And when you brought up the question before about how I link food to photosynthesis most people who follow my work knows that I brought that idea to the Western A. Price Foundation in 2016 when i did a video with them and kind of blew them out of the water, and at that place you know most people know Western A. Price was a dentist and he went all over the world to look at people but the dominant paradigm that Sally Fallon

16:41 who's the president of their food guru clan, because that's what I call them. So she wants you to eat ancestral diets. Jack has no real problem with that but i like to point out to people when you go back and read his book that was published in the 1930s every single picture that you see of the people that he examined they were outside they weren't insult and that defines a confounding variable in his work The other thing I like to point out and I pointed it out to you, Ruben on the Rick Ruben podcast is that every single food and nutrition study that's ever been done has been done what? Inside the power grid inside lights or done on nocturnal mammals in a lab with blue light. Now i just told you that light affects our metabolism light can change variables in there so you have to realize that means that just about every study out there you have to throw out

17:38 completely, because you don't know what the confounder light actually did to those results. And I don't think it's a controversial point—obviously the food gurus do—because it subjects their theories and their ideas to a level of scrutiny that they cannot explain. Why? Because when it comes to light, biology is not a foundational science in describing light It's actually physics that is. And then it turns out that you have to understand the physics of organisms, meaning the physics inside a cell. Well biologists and biochemists? That's an abhorrent idea to them! Why because it's not in their wheelhouse they're not those experts in that area. Then when you get really down to it... The real fun part when I get to play with them like a cat and mouse is the new branch of science that's out called optico-genetics

18:32 where now neurobiologists are out there shining light on skin and eyes, and using light to change biochemistry. And when you see this as a layperson new to my work, you're going like wait a minute Jack is basically showing us science where light can actually change biochemistry, light actually can reverse diseases I mean there's a disease out called Kriegler-Niger syndrome where there's an actual deficit in an enzyme genetically programmed, you can actually fix that by using a specific frequency of blue light added back into it. Is that paper written? The answer is yes! Are there other diseases out there where that's actually been done? Yeah, there's a specific retinopathy

19:20 where a paper was just written in 2022 in Finland that reversed the retinopathy by utilizing light frequencies to actually alter the biochemistry and the eye. When you begin to see this, and this is just new stuff now that's coming out. This is not the stuff that was in your mother and father's biochemistry book or your doctor's biochemistry book Most of these people are unaware of this I like to call them ignorant because they don't look for it And I've posted these papers and vignettes on Twitter on Facebook on LinkedIn multiple times Of how light is capable doing this and giving people the links to their papers

20:01 You know what's ironic about it? Nobody likes to read those because they go against their biases. And I'm just going to tell you, when your salary depends on you misunderstanding something, it's amazing how really smart people will cherry pick their own data Yeah, I've seen it time and time again. And so coming back to food a little bit some researchers that are kind of in this space and on your page have suggested that food loses a lot of its energy once its picked fruits and vegetables for example when it's in the grocery store and it's been shipped from here halfway across the world, then it sits there. It's losing some of its energy. It's being depleted of that light energy and that we should be picking our foods from the plant directly. Do you agree with that? And is there a way to measure that quality of light energy in a fruit or vegetable from picking it off the vine to letting us sit in the grocery store for two weeks? Well I know

20:59 the answer I'm going to give you, but I'm gonna say to you do you realize what you just did by throwing that softball question to me? This question actually is a full frontal assault to the biochemists and food gurus. Why? Because if it's only about biochemistry of food, it shouldn't matter when you pick the tomato off the vine because all the biochemical signals are still the same but what is different when you pick the tomato off the vine? When we take an optical scanner and cut the fruit in two and we look at how many bio photons come out Turns out, the further you go away from when the fruit or vegetable is connected to the ground, the worse its nutritional source is. The biochemists can't explain that now how do we know this to be true? You're going to laugh when you hear this who came up with this idea first to start doing optical scanning of our fruit was a guy named Fritz pop and then scientists that were in the biophysics space

21:57 then made optical handheld photomultipliers, which is called an optical scanner. And one day Jeff Bezos got a talk about optical scanning and he said this is a way for us to prove that the food that we're buying is organic or not So they would measure their optical scanners. And the person that brought that to the Amazons of the world were people that used barcodes to check prices, optical scanning is how a barcode works. So it turns out these photo multipliers are optically scanning the barcode in fruits to know how much power they really have

22:37 And it turns out when you use modern agriculture techniques versus, say strict organic growth in the earth there's a marked difference in the bio photon release of the fruit. So on order of about 40%. If Amazon is going to charge more for organic foods, they are going to want to assess that in fact the farmer was really doing what needed to be done. Why? Because they don't want to pay some schmuck an extra 20%, 30% and then pass the cost on to you." So that's actually how this came in to supermarkets and foods.

23:16 Super interesting. Yeah, it just makes logical sense when you think about it like as soon as you pick it starts to kind of degrade and take it out of the sun and if it is all about photons and electrons in light then there should be some kinda difference there and clearly there is so when it comes to getting our light right not just through food but through our body Obviously, this is something you talk about a lot. The importance of seeing the sunrise and getting out in the sunset I hear various things but talk to people about why it's super important that first thing in the morning we see the sunrise We have to have our circadian rhythm set correctly There are a lot of downstream effects of that I've heard you say that you can't even process

24:02 food or metabolize food correctly if you don't see this morning sun. So it doesn't matter what you eat, if you aren't starting at the right level. Correct? Most people don't understand the basics of actually how light drives biology and biochemistry. I usually tell people there's two guys that you need to probably learn a little bit about their science. The first guy is Nick Lane, he's got plenty of videos that you can read and has written some books basically the TCA cycle in his world as an evolutionary biologist and biochemist that you can't do anything in life without the TCA cycle

24:43 Well, the interesting thing is the TCA cycle is connected in the mitochondria to membranes. Those membranes have to have a charge differential in it. What gives you that charge differential? Turns out that its sunlight that comes through your eye that makes all of the TCA cycles spin clockwise and in a specific way So there was a paper written, I guess it was 2020 that basically said if you don't see the sunrise your TCA cycles don't spin the same in all different tissues. One of the guys who's I guess a detractor on Twitter actually posted it and he goes holy shit

25:18 Jack Cruz is right about this. And here's the paper, and it was published in the Food Guru's journals which I thought was good so i took a screenshot of this post and then put it on my Twitter feed It's also on my Instagram feed and of course after I did that to out this guy He blocked me, but the point was already made that in order for you to have beta oxidation if you do not see the sunrise eating your carnivore diet is like pissing in the wind. But guess what? Those carnivore guys they don't get it now some of them are starting to wake up guys like Saladino who

26:00 Wrote a book became a millionaire with his carnivore book then magically moved to Costa Rica and started eating Differently, of course you know lot of people out there on the food guru side like Biolane and some of the meatheads like Sean Baker And the rest of them they started to get on saladinos case. I looked at it like this. I said look teleologically from an economic standpoint, I think He proved that he was robbing from people, but the credit that I give him is that he began to realize there was another part of the story that it's missing. So I don't get on his case very much because

26:39 He's moving in a directionally accurate way to understanding that actually light is much more important than food is, and this story. And my opinion anybody who morphed their position that shows me that they're doing due diligence and I think that's a good thing. I don't think that's a bad thing because if I was doing the same things I believe 20 years ago, I would be pissed off at myself. My positions on A lot of things change from zero to 40 and 40-60. Yeah, absolutely we should always be learning and advancing And let me ask you about melanoma because I know a few people who have found spots on them and they go get them cut off or filed off or whatever but to quote your Twitter You say for those who think sunscreen helps protect from melanoma? You are the people who keep dermatologists in big houses in luxury cars. You are fueling their centralized empires

27:33 sunscreen blocks how all molecular clocks operate as flow meters for entropy. Wake the fuck up! A lack of UV is associated with melanoma in Americans and Europeans, imagine that? Melanin can transform 99.9% of absorbed sunlight into heat and this greatly reduces the risk of skin cancer The heat builds the coherent domains in cell water and this also enhances the amount of infrared radiation red light you can receive from the sun. A lack of sunlight is the real danger of skin cancers." The centralized belief is, the sun is toxic. The decentralized truth is just the opposite. So how about your hard stop here? Cause you gave a lot of word salad by reading that. You got a lot of newbies this is the best way for you to explain what I just said. The centralized paradigm belief is the sun is toxic if this is true

28:26 then everybody who has melanoma should have a vitamin D level through the roof. What does the dermatology literature actually say about that condition? They're deficient! It's exactly the opposite, in other words people that get melanoma have very low vitamin D. So what is the return of serve that Jack just gave to everybody out there? The dermatologist now will come out and say, oh well it's the serious sunburns you get guess what you go read their literature it turns out sunburns are not associated with melanoma either so every time they open their mouth they stick their foot in

29:06 The tweet that you just read is actually the biophysics behind why people have a problem. It turns out what we know is that in the cell cycle, Mitosis happens with an extreme ultra-weak UV photon release. Hard stop for a minute, we found that out in 1923. A guy named Alexander Gerwitsch did an onion root experiment I talked about that with Ruben and Uberman on the podcast And it was clear that you've been had never ever read that paper and I said to him If mitogenic radiation, meaning mitosis you can't get past mitosis requires UV light. What's the first question you should ask yourself? Where the hell is a UV light come from and realize that this onion root experiment was first done The onion wasn't connected to divine it was actually inside a house It was cut

30:03 And the onion was emitting ultra-weak UV light. How was that proven? We didn't have photomultipliers in 1923, but Gerwitsch knew from a lot of the physics experiments that were being done around the photoelectric effect at the turn of the century that if you put quartz in between the two onion skins, that the UV light would go through it. If you put glass between them, it blocks it and he showed definitively that he knew it had to be UV light because glass completely blocked the effect and he still got mitosis in the other half of the onion root when he used quartz. So, when you see that not only the first question that I ask you where's UV light come from then here's the big question you gotta ask yourself based on the opinion that you're trying to make here in this podcast The dermatologist Bill Gates and the ophthalmologists all have something in common they want to block sunlight yet you just learned

31:00 that onion roots and just about every single cell anywhere that's alive uses ultra-weak bio photons to stimulate mitosis. So tell me how the sun is toxic since the sun is the source of UV light on this planet? That's where it all comes from, and that means also that living things have to have a mechanism in it either copy and save that light so it can be used or The other possibility is there's a mechanism in living tissue to make UV light That really blows your fucking mind because if it turns out that cells are able to make UV light Then you go back to Bill Gates the dermatologist and ophthalmologists ago. If we make it, how could this be toxic? I

31:52 And it turns out the answer is we do make it, we do store it. We do both and it turns out the dose makes the toxin And the key thing is when you know that every living cell emits these bio photons, these bio photons come out in extremely low intensity. You have to have these special machines to do it but these special machines were built in the 60s and 70s and physicists actually took living tissue from all domains of life and every single thing on this planet emits

32:27 ultra weak UV biophotons. So it's no longer Jack Cruz is the crazy motherfucker on the internet that says this, this is now published in textbooks of biophysics. Everybody in the biophysics world knows that what I just said is axiomatically true. Here's the interesting thing nobody who's a dermatologist does Bill Gates certainly doesn't and neither does the ophthalmologists And guess what? Your listeners can go right now and buy Roland Van Wick's book called Light Scoping Life that covers the 120 years of research done on bio photons. And when you find out just how much is in that book, guess what you're going to realize? That tweet that you just read

33:14 of why Jack believes that the story is exactly the opposite. When you live in blue light and you subtract red and UV, that's the fastest way to get to skin cancer." I mean, that all makes sense. So if you knew someone who had found a couple of melanoma spots even someone who doesn't really use sunscreen like my father doesn't really use sunscreen but this is happening some people are trying to say it's seed oils but what would be your first steps to tell a person hey let's correct this problem here's what you do well i mean everybody's n equals one is different and you have to realize there's a lot of roads that lead to Rome meaning there's a lot of roads that lead to skin cancer

33:58 by different metrics. But ultimately, what it comes down to is that your skin is atrophic. It doesn't have enough melanin in it. It also doesn't have enough infrared A light. The seed oils are actually not a story about food. It's a story about deuterium for those listeners who want to learn about that podcast was just done with an Australian doctor has interviewed me His name is Max Goulhane. When he started out before he interviewed me, he was one of those food gurus like the guys I already mentioned and the reason I stopped at three podcasts with him...I'm like dude iIm done talking to you if you're going to continue think this about food so the last year he's jumped down this thing and he started talking a lot biophysicists but the last guy just talked about

34:46 or talked to on his podcast was Gabor Somali who's the expert in deuterium. Turns out anything that's a seed or seed oil comes from a C3, C4 or CAM plant and it turns out those plants have higher levels of deuterium in them guess what determines that? photosynthesis does. Again, we're back to the light story it's not a food story so when you realize if you have too much deuterium say in the wrong place in your body that sets you up for possible oncogenic potential? The answer is yes that's true but what's happening in humans is where fucking each of these steps up not only are we not going into sun our use of technology has brought us inside and front blue light screens that have no red and have no UV

35:32 So the sun that we worship now is an artificial one that's loaded with blue. Blue light stimulates the growth of melanocytes, and then when you eat seed oils that are in your food, it slows down the spin rate of the TCA cycle plus you're not going into the sun to begin with, so your skin is atrophic—you don't have enough melanin in there—so you can't absorb UV light. Then on top Then you go and put sunscreen on that blocks tyrosinase, and then you make your skin even more susceptible to electromagnetic radiation while the whole time the dermatologist is telling you you're protecting yourself. No, you're actually protecting their bank accounts because all of those activities guarantee that you're going to come back into their office for wallet biopsies. And here's the kicker. Max did another podcast with a dermatologist named Richard Weller

36:27 There was a paper that came out two years ago in the New England Journal of Medicine. The dermatologist that wrote it was Adamson, I just talked about this on Twitter literally this week. This will shock you even further. The reason why tissue diagnosis and melanoma is going up because that's what all the dermatologists want to tell you? That it's higher turns out because they're over calling it and this paper was published two years ago in the New England Journal of Medicine And I was very glad to see that Weller talked to Max about this, because here's a dermatologist who is admitting that his profession is filled with a bunch of scammers. Now he did it in a much nicer way than I just said it but I'm telling you need to know this so when you go in Florida to your dermatologist and they tell you oh I got a couple these nevi and they tell you that looks bad they're gonna

37:20 Look at this and say oh, well. This is an a typical nevus it could be a superficial spreading melanoma We're just gonna cut it out realize when they give you that diagnosis if it's not true Then you continue to believe the drama The paradigm they're selling you And the problem is I know no patients go in and read the paper that was published in New England Journal of Medicine Two years ago don't get me wrong. I get it but patients are paying these people to be experts. The medical care that you're going to get is only good because who's packing your parachute? It's very similar to what I just said to you about Google's AI, if you look at Google's AI that's based on wokeism, you get pictures of Putin that looked like an African king

38:06 Because guess what? The mistakes or the biases in AI are magnified in the outcome. That's exactly what Weller was trying to explain to Max when he talked to him, he said look if you go to a dermatologist who really believes the sun is bad they're going to blame everything on creation they're going to overread everything because that also drives their Mercedes payments drives their business forward But the key point to stop this madness is what I told you when I went on this rant to begin with. Ask yourself, as a person listening to this podcast why is it if the dermatologist and gates and ophthalmologists are right that the sun is toxic? Why does every single skin cancer out there associated with low vitamin D level when we know vitamin d is only made from UV light between 312 and 320 which is UVB light explain

39:03 And all you're going to hear is fucking crickets. Why? Because that's what decentralized science does, see when you ask the right questions, you uncover really the scam of centralized systems and what I'm trying to do is make people realize you have to get away from the institutions that are supported by these centralized systems, which in large part is big pharma. I made a comment and I'm surprised you haven't picked up on Twitter yet that have you ever noticed when you go into a pharmacy and guys going there rob it of their Oxycontin? Do you ever notice that the sunscreen is always right in front of the pharmacy and it's never locked up? They want you to steal that because guess what?

39:49 If you use it, you'll be back for more drugs later down the road. Because every time you block yourself from the sun either by sunglasses contacts glasses clothes I don't give a shit what it is You are making yourself more susceptible to the sausage maker that is centralized medicine I think that's well said, makes a lot of sense. And so with the mention of deuterium let's jump over to water you know there is alot of talk about deuterium depleted water we had Gerald Pollack here talks about the fourth phase of water and gel state water now there are these hydrogen electrolyzer water bottles that are getting popular

40:27 I've heard a lot of people talk about deuterium depleted water and its benefits. I haven't heard a lot of people talk about where to get it, how to have a steady supply of it and if these hydrogen electrolyzers are the same something adjacent that are beneficial obviously we don't want to get our water pumped from the city through lead pipes but how do we get optimized water? Well, I mean that's a totally different thing. Don't conflate the two issues. If you want to talk about deuterium, you have to understand deuterium depleted water is another scam and you need to understand where this scam came from. Gabor Somali who is the guy who wrote the book Defeating Cancer he's an oncologist in Hungary. You want to use deuterium depleted water in cancer therapy because it turns out

41:15 Deuterium is not the toxin. In fact, our blood is loaded with 150 to 155 parts per million of deuterium that's where it supposed to be but where it's not supposed to be in our body as in the matrix with a TCA cycle spins and it turns out when you have cancer there's more deuterium there than anywhere else and that's where deuterium depletion makes sense so the people that took this message of sommelier specifically I don't want to call him one of his friends but it was a biochemist From UCLA, he came up with this deuterium depleted center with a couple of other people he was working with. I think a chiropractor and someone else they've made a huge business out of selling deuterium depleted water and selling people the story that everybody should do tier and deplete That's not true The only people that really need to do tear him deplete are people that have significant mitochondrial diseases like cancer To gab or Somali's credit? He's telling people the truth

42:12 His book is excellent on deuterium. The problem is the fractionation of deuterium to light hydrogen, it's really the key for you to understand that you have to understand that different parts of the cell have different amounts of deuterium in it. The place where we have zero tolerance for deuterium is actually our matrix. That's where we don't want and turns out in disease we do get it so this seed oil story This is one of the things that the seed oil people don't understand. If you happen to be in strong solar environments, the amount of deuterium your eat is easily handled by the body. Turns out that's not true when you live say in Finland or at the poles and you're eating seed oils. That's when they're toxic but everybody's out there saying you need to avoid all seed oils. This is one of those few times that Biolain may be right

43:05 when we talk about the seed oil story. Do I have a personal problem of people getting rid of seed oils in their life? No, because I think fundamentally the oils that are coming from plants that nature really never provided without manufacturing you don't get them therefore i'd rather see people use the natural fats like coconut palm and butter That makes more sense because saturated fat is loaded with H plus and has very little deuterium in it In terms of the waters now, I think when you use the water should be in consultation with a clinician that understands this. I will tell you, I don't think there's very many clinicians out there that do understand it. The only two people that I believe is myself and Gabor Somali. Why? Because I've heard him speak on it and the way he speaks about it tells me he's very accurate

44:02 and he understands what the limits are of the use. And I think that's good because it should be measured in terms of the machines that use hydrogen I'm out on all of them, all the supplements that use hydrogen. And I'll tell you the reason why not that I'm anti-hydrogen because I love hydrogen. The problem is the quantitative analysis that's done when you make these filters or machines they're not fracturing out deuterium compared to hydrogen. Why? If they did that their machines would cost a lot more money hundreds of thousands of dollars. The same thing is true about those molecular hydrogen tablets Those tablets are made inside a lab. If you think that they're fracturing out deuterium and hydrogen, no you're actually in those tablets my bet is You're getting deuterium bombs meaning stuff That's probably got 150 to 155 parts in it And then you're dropping into the water so your water is even higher you're making it even worse So you have to remember guys on the internet make affiliate code stuff? and when they are making all that cash

45:07 Look, they're going to tell you whatever the fuck you want here. And if you're stupid enough not to do your due diligence then my opinion as a decentralized condition is that you get what you deserve. It's simple as that. See nature has extinction events for that issue and some people may think this is harsh when I say it but look this is only way we are going to get people actually start to think wisely. You have to understand that the way deuterium works in hydrological cycle Deuterium is highest at the equator and lowest at the poles for one reason, because sunlight is strong at the equator and weak at the poles. So that means photosynthesis works in exact same way. At equatorial regions things like fruits are going to have higher deuterium levels than it

45:52 and things at the poles, meaning animals or walruses. Things the Eskimos eat, things that are present there in cold environments they're going to be mostly saturated fat which is loaded with H plus and is deuterium depleted now are there things that are in the equator that are also deuterium depleted? Yeah it turns out coconut is one Turns out eggs, like if you MRI a coconut or egg you'll find out that it's very deuterium depleted. So nature does provide some of those things present in the environment. The flip side of that is should you be eating food because you mentioned this earlier when we're talking about the optical scanners

46:29 Should you be eating food that, say comes from Chile when you live in Boston? The answer is probably not. Why because you don't know what the electromagnetic barcode is In fact that food was grown in summer and the southern hemisphere and your eating it a winter in the northern hemisphere bad choice But guess what most of the fruit that's in American supermarkets right now in the northern hemisphere are are coming from Guatemala, they're coming from Mexico. They're coming from places that are not even Florida and people don't realize that there's a biologic toll for all these things. I'm just that guy that understands the science well but wants to point it out to you.

47:12 you know, force people to do things. I'm actually just trying to force people to ask better questions of the people that are packing their parachutes because if your expert doesn't know this level of sophistication then they're not an expert. If they don't know that blue light raises your blood glucose and insulin and you don't need a Twinkie to do it then you should fire them If they keep telling you, let's keep doing blood tests for a year and you have an autoimmune condition. And you spent $50,000 doing their functional medicine bullshit and your on 19 supplements and you still got the disease? Fucking fire them because all it is is a snake oil salesman. Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Obviously we've deconstructed the gimmicky water things and what not to do but

48:01 What would you say is the way to biohack optimal water for everyday life? Do you set water in the sunlight, what are the layers to optimize our water that we do drink every day. I think the most important thing is make sure that the water is clean meaning there's no man-made lifetime chemicals in it forever chemicals I think it's better if the water comes directly out of the earth, like spring water would be good. You can easily test spring water at most water municipalities, at least in the States we can't do that here in El Salvador but I've tested the water here and the water is pretty clean here which is good

48:41 In terms of the deuterium content, that's really based on the latitude. So if you do want to drink deuterium depleted water just drink water from a higher latitude than normal like I tell people if you don't want to spend the extra money on the deuterium depleted water, drink Evian, drink Pellegrino, drink Voss, drink Icelandic Water. If you really wanna do the deuterium depleted game, you can go on Amazon and buy HydroHealth Water it's easy to find You may not get down to the parts per million that I would use for somebody, say with a brain tumor. But you can do that way and does deuterium depleted water help? Humans that say even live in Florida but live a shitty life that have poor lit environment remember the relationship that I told you before that's present on earth that deuterium depleted water is present at the poles where light is poor well see if your life has lived in poor light

49:37 Does it make some sense to add some deuterium depleted water maybe so you wouldn't get like Chris Mortenson who just died from ESPN. He got laryngeal cancer really bad and suffered with it what was his job for the last 25 years working in a TV Mecca and always on radio. He was always around EMF that would dehydrate him kill him I Guarantee you didn't get the message about deterrent depleted water from his oncologist Okay, the same thing is true Let's stay on the ESPN thing You're probably old enough to remember Stuart Scott he was also on ESPN. He also died of an eye cancer okay

50:16 Jimmy Valvano, who was the first guy that was the big basketball coach at North Carolina State and then went on ESPN. He also died early of colon cancer. What was his life like? Inside a gym that was blue-lit and inside a TV studio. So if you live that kind of life and you realize that it's bad and you can't change it because your family needs to pay their mortgage, your house note, your car this and that but you know you need to change it Am I okay if you have extra money laying around and you want to drink deuterium-depleted water? I don't have a problem with that. But, I want to make sure that why you're doing it as the truth and that you really should perform an environmental hack in your life. In other words, reconstruct your life so that you're not living a zoo animal life inside someone else's cage because ultimately if you do it long enough

51:13 you're going to wind up in centralized healthcare and you're going to be treated just like meat for a sausage. They are going to do to you what they believe to be true, and I think we covered that with the Bill Gates Foundation ophthalmology and dermatologists. They have fundamental flawed beliefs that are going to harm you in the treatments many of the treatments that you get are almost asked backwards. Why? Because the perspective of medical school curriculums don't take anything that we're talking about today into consideration, they're built around big pharma ideas. Right right man all great advice so light and water are probably easier for people to understand and see through observation but what about that third pillar magnetism how is that factor important to nature and human health

52:06 Well, that one is I think easy to understand as long as we don't go deep. What people don't realize things that are magnetic have an unpaired electron in it so what's the most common thing that your audience would have heard? That has an unpaired electron in it reactive oxygen species okay or reactive nitrogen species So when you hear the food gurus of the biochemist talk about that they always tell you that it's bad It turns out the science that we now know is that mitochondria make ROS and RNS actually to signal.

52:43 And it turns out they're critical for signaling. So the real issue now with ROS and RNS is actually the dose and how it's parsed, because we want accurate signaling. In other words, we want to have fidelity of that signal. It turns out when you live in environments that are say suboptimal like an ESPN studio or your podcast studio or being inside a house or being inside an office with closed windows that changes the magnetic footprint of the ROS and RNS. And let's be clear to the people who may not be science geeks, that signal is made in your mitochondria so your mitochondria makes a magnetic signal that actually yourselves pay attention to and respond to it. In other words, that magnetic signal turns on different metabolic pathways in your body

53:40 Okay, and light makes things magnetic many people don't know that for example Probably 45 minutes ago when we talked about chlorophyll and I interrupted you and said no Hemoglobin is just like chlorophyll Do you know that UV light when it hits? The four change in hemoglobin That it changes the magnetic effects in hemoglobin so that there's conformational changes. So you can carry co2 versus o2 That happens all the time. Most people don't realize that's an electromagnetic effect of sunlight on hemoglobin, everybody seems to know that hemoglobin carries oxygen and CO2 but most people didn't know that the process is controlled by electromagnetism. And when you actually hear that you go well how many more things are controlled by things like this? It turns out let's just take common things we're not going to go deep

54:36 The most common protein in the human body is collagen. Do you know that collagen is piezoelectric and flexoelectric? What does that mean? It means when you squeeze collagen's triple helix, it emits electricity. That electricity comes from what electrons and light. Flexoelectric also tells you there are currents coming out of collagen that way just so you understand that how shall we say, distillation is also a signal to the things inside the cell of how they should react. So if say you eat fruit from Florida that had glyphosate sprayed on it, glyphosate intercalates into collagen and makes it less piezoelectric, makes it less flexoelectric. So say if you ate oranges from Florida that always had

55:30 roundup sprayed on it and you didn't know it, do you think you might develop some collagen vascular problems? The answer is more likely than not that would be on the case. But most people don't know the biophysics of actually how this stuff happens. And anytime something has an unpaired electron in it, it's a magnetic effect. I think magnetism can be very difficult for people to understand But I like to use things, especially in my world that are easy to do. If a patient comes in and has a brain tumor and I do a workup on him we have a special machine—and I think you probably have experience with this—we'll do an EKG of your heart. That's an electric deflection on six leads that we use

56:18 We have something else we use in the brain when someone comes in. We'll do an EEG, those are electrical deflections of brain activity on a scan that we can look at. We now have new machines that you may not know about called the magnetoencephalogram. We actually can check magnetic deflections of the things your brain is doing as it goes on We also have these for the heart, where we actually can tell about the magnetic field changes in your heart. And it turns out when we put these machines or people in these machines, we can measure a magnetic field from the human heart that's 22 feet away from your body and your brain is about five or six feet away because it's encased in bone. When people hear this they go wait a minute!

57:07 magnetic potential that's in us. And I tell people this story, yes you do and then are there other examples in biology where this is used? Yeah the European Robin uses magnetoreception to navigate those magnetic field lines that we talked about earlier when we talked about how the solar wind gets dissipated into the human residence and we picked out of What's another one? I just gave you the answer, the Schumann resonance. The alpha wave in your EEG resonates at 7.83 hertz. Turns out the Schumann resonance that goes from the ionosphere to the surface of the planet is 7.83 hertz. So what does that mean? Your brain has copied the exact same frequency signature in its alpha wave that comes from the thalamus of the brain and when I do an EEG, I can actually see that wave

58:00 through an EEG or I can check it through magnetic flux. So when people say that this is hocus-pocus stuff, remember what i just said to you in this podcast we now have machines that can prove these things happen great summary so you mentioned the heart and its magnetic field I wanted to ask you about the cardiovascular system and the heart because something I got from Dr Gerald Pollack the gel state of water that's in our cells and the way blood moves. We're told that the heart pumps blood through the whole body, but that doesn't really make much sense I've now been made to understand that it's more the negative charge, the magnetism that actually moves blood through the veins and that the heart is maybe not so much a pump but more

58:53 Well, let's be very accurate here because I know Pollack and Tom Cowan have tried to push the idea that the heart isn't a pump. The heart is a pump but there's accessory biophysics that really matter and it turns out the net negative charge of coherent domains in water…I don't talk the way Jerry Pollack talks. Why? Pollock to me doesn't go deep enough to make you really understand water. Pollock is great if you want a third grade understanding of water, his book is spectacular on teaching people the basics of water. What Jerry has gotten through to the public, which I like is that he explained to people that water from your tap is not the same as water everywhere else in other words Water is very heterogeneous and it turns out The water in biology Is even more crazy why because the water that's present in your blood is different than the water That's made in your mitochondria

59:51 And the big difference there is one has got no deuterium in it, and the other one has a ton of deuterium in it. My criticism with Pollack is actually on this very issue I've actually met with him had him come speak at conferences with me and I told them that he needed to repeat all his studies With deuterium laden water and deuterium depleted water because I think he's gonna find That some of the things that he can't even explain are present because of that issue. And it turns out, the water researchers that I like to focus in on are guys like Martin Chaplin. He's from UK. He's got a great website. He goes very deep into water research. He also expands on some other work of Julianne Praparda and also Del Giuse. Both of those guys unfortunately died about a decade ago. They were probably the two best water researchers in the world

1:00:48 Long story short water is incredibly important to understand and it turns out when light hits water It creates an electromagnetic capacitor Jerry did a great job of discussing that in his book. And what else does it do? It changes the periodic crystal That water becomes okay, in other words water is liquid crystalline And it turns out because water is adjacent to every protein and water is adjacent to DNA, this has huge implications for understanding how proteins work. So when you understand this remember that water—and this is something you won't read in Jerry's book—water actually is a semiconductor and the reason why Jerry never went to that level in his book was because the physics were stripped out

1:01:39 When you realize that water is a semiconductor and you realize that Albert St. George in 37 said, all proteins have an electronic structure that looks like a semiconductor, realize that all proteins are hydrated in biology, you start going wait a minute this sounds like we've got a chip factory going on in our mitochondria because our mitochondria makes the water that surrounds these proteins so then you gotta start asking yourself And when you look deep into it, you wind up at a guy that Jerry has talked about. Gilbert Ling and Robert Becker. And Becker actually was the one that proved Albert St. George correct that semiconduction happens in human tissue. He did the seminal papers in 57 through 63 now it's no longer not a belief

1:02:30 It's now hardcore science. Again, this is also science like I mentioned to you about the optical tweezers and also the optical scanners that centralized people don't realize is true because they don't read it. Gilbert Ling was important in realizing Many things but when it comes to water that when ATP is created in mitochondria, it withdraws electrons From proteins and water. Well think about what we just said before about magnetism What does that mean? It means that we are making things more magnetic or less magnetic In the presence of light and different frequencies of light and actually Gilbert Ling did something That was even more remarkable

1:03:13 He basically told the world that the guy that won the Nobel Prize in 1978, Peter Mitchell. His belief on chemoosmosis which is the basis of the TCA cycle is an incomplete theory. Why? Because if you look at how much ATP a human being needs per day and you figure out the spin rate of the ATPA's by Peter Mitchell's work we break the second law thermodynamics by 500 fold. We don't make enough ATP it's impossible So what does that mean? Ling always said there has to be another way to do this and it turns out the other way to do that is through melanin and water in terms of charge separation. Now, Ling was so brilliant although didn't use the physics to figure this out that his science formed the basis of Ray Damadian making the MRI machine now that's a machine that I use every day in my practice

1:04:06 And what does an MRI machine do? It uses electromagnetic radiation to pulse hydrogen atoms inside of you to develop pictures. It's based on water and we see different shadows where H pluses and deuterium is, that's the reason why we can develop pictures that I can use in neurosurgery. So there has never been a machine ever made from Peter Mitchell's Nobel Prize. Never! Biochemist and food gurus keep TCA cycle is based on the kibo osmoticis theory and oxidative phosphorylation again It's very similar to the half-truth what Peter Mitchell said is true We do make ATP that way but we don't make enough ATP To figure out the stoichiometry of how the fuck we live

1:04:59 And that's a big problem because what that means is that there has got to be other ways that we transform energy in the body. Why is it important? Because when your redox power goes down, that's when you get sick. That's what sickness effectively is. When your redox power goes up, your sickness goes away. This tells us that if we understand redox power from a biophysics perspective, we can actually reverse diseases. We can actually make them go away from the mist that they came from. That's something that Doug Wallace who is an expert in mitochondrial biology brought to the table probably 20 years ago but are the centralized guys making any sense of this stuff?

1:05:43 No, because they only understand water as H2O. They never even get into the different isotopic variation much less the way the crystalline water is built inside of cells and that's why this stuff becomes a little bit difficult for newbies to understand because when they hear a guy like me talk They're like, is this just all your beliefs? You know of all the stuff that you know these come from papers that are published in the literature That actually tell us how things really work because fundamentally when you're a doctor and you're taking care of patients. You want to structurally understand How a brain tumor is going to react in someone's brain And why they got it and what you should do to help fix it cutting out of cancer Is like a 1950s view

1:06:35 of oncology. And it turns out sometimes cutting the cancer out can actually make the cancer much worse, really what it means when someone gets a big tumor like that means twofold things their environment was toxic but their immune system was turned off because the T cells that get rid of the bad cancer cells Stopped working a long time ago and that's what allowed the tumor to continue get bigger and Bigger and bigger and bigger, and if you don't understand that you have to turn the redox potential of The immune system on while you're doing other things to the tumor then You just kind of failed biophysics 101 And unfortunately That's the situation we're in right now on oncology. You know modern oncology is based around drugs and surgery. That's it

1:07:26 You very rarely hear an oncologist like Gabor Somali tell you, hey, deuterium depleted water is a good augmentation effect for you to get rid of this. And going in the sun Most people will be shocked to hear this. There's papers out there that show you if you go in the sun, get your skin in the game it turns on the T-regulator cells that gets rid of cancer actually makes them more active That's not again Jack Cruz's opinion It's actually published in a literature and repeated multiple times Well how come we're not telling people about? How come when people get sick We want to lock them down and put him inside a room I'm gonna tell you the reason why because that's how you use more pharmaceuticals Mm-hmm Yeah, we know that so

1:08:07 Dr. Cruz, this has been really enlightening to say the least I'm happy to see more people in the decentralized medical field coming around to your work now more than ever it's a beautiful thing let the people know about your website your patreon ways to follow up anything you have upcoming that they should know about these sorts of things yeah well my handle on all social media is drjackcruz everywhere You can find free articles i wrote on my old jackcruze.com website LinkedIn, I think has about 190 free articles on it. My Twitter feeds are epic! Usually, I go on pretty good rants on biophysics you'll find those anywhere if you want more about specific topics that's Patreon go to patreon.com backslash drjackcruz It's only five bucks a month if you want more of my time you become a member at my site

1:09:02 Become a silver gold or platinum i think gold is the best because you get me live every month for about five hours and q&a's Or you can ask any questions directly And then if you want to hire, me to be your doctor You need to have a lot of bitcoin and be ready to come down to el salvador and I'm gonna put you through a gauntlet? You become a farm member that way Fair. And let me just slide in this question, so I hear as a Bitcoin guy, I hear a lot about El Salvador. I hear people shitting on it. I hear people saying it's the best thing ever. You're actually there. So how do you think the transition to Bitcoin as an actual national currency has affected the economy and El Salvador? Well, you have to understand why it happened because most people don't understand El Salvador to begin with

1:09:50 The people that have told you they shit on it, the first question out of your mouth back to them say when did you go to El Salvador? And you'll find out the answer is never. People who've never done something always have fucking great opinions. They should take those opinions and shove them right up their ass. So the first thing that the president down here did when he got elected in 2019 this was a country that was the most unsafe place in the world And it was unsafe, largely because of the United States. That's something that people don't realize but the first thing he gave his people is he made Bitcoin legal tender a year after he got in then he got rid of all the corrupt judges and the corrupt politicians and then He employed something in their constitution called The Exception Regiment that allowed him to run all the gang members and put them in jail today We are now the most

1:10:46 safe country on the planet. There's no crime here at all I've been here for three solid years to see this whole process happen If you don't know anything about Bukele and what's happening El Salvador my strong recommendation to you is To go listen to his CPAC speech that he just did literally a week ago and listened to what he says, I think if you're in American you're going to realize that may have been the greatest presidential speech that you ever heard, because he's warning us what's coming to our country because it happened to them. And he had a fix it and what he said was epic for those of you don't know El Salvador just had their presidential election on February 4th which you can tell is a month ago He won 85% of the vote first time he got in the only 153

1:11:38 He also won 95% of the Congress this time. Okay? So he has a mandate like no other president on the planet, his people want him to continue to do what he's doing. He is now decentralizing everything in El Salvador. In fact, he has asked me for my help so what is one of the big things that are coming on March 16th we're going to have a big event down here at Cera Verde called The Age Of Light And there you're going to find out what the plan is in El Salvador that we have for centralized medicine and how we're going to decentralize it. I think if you see how successful he's been on the financial and social side, his first term just wait till you see what he's gonna do now. I love it! Cheers to that exciting. I plan on keeping an eye on things there

1:12:34 But man, thank you again so much for your time. Let there be light long live Bitcoin and take care. All right. Take care ain't no party like a higher side party because the higher side party I guess it's over two hours. So yeah it ended but what a party It was? I enjoy so much of what he says and maybe the universe does give you what you need when you need it Because I've had trouble locking this one in But as I kind of mentioned, my dad did just have a few spots removed that tested positive for melanoma. Obviously this is very concerning for our family it sucks because my dad has the same sort of mindset that i have which is let's keep the medical system at bay as much as possible and this issue in particular is really frustrating because we both know the cancer industry is a huge grift We both know testing is a big part of that

1:13:31 And we both lean towards the alternative perspective that melanoma is not caused by the sun. Up until my parents moved to Florida, which followed my move to Florida... My dad got as much sun as anyone out in his home garden Did he wear sunglasses? Yeah probably did he wear hats I'm sure sometimes yes But he was out there more than most, and some say skin cancer is caused by sunscreen chemicals. And my dad definitely doesn't use sunscreen. Others say it's seed oils and the omega-3 that they produce that's in our skin that causes the cancer when it interacts with the sun...and that's possible? And thirdly people say it's too much artificial light even if you do get enough regular sunlight and that too could be a factor

1:14:23 But we're kind of in it now, and knowing what causes it doesn't really have much to do with knowing how to get rid of it or how to proceed at this point. I know its tough for my dad as it would be for me to go through any sort of medical process when you feel completely fine We have a really nice red light from back in the day when I did that episode with Mark Sloan. He's gonna try intermittent fasting and a cleaner diet, he's done it before but he doesn't want to go the conventional route just taking their word for it coming in for constant testing and treatments and getting caught up in that mess

1:14:59 And I don't want to see that happen either. Ignoring the whole thing seems like a ballsy play, but if some of those lifestyle changes are made then it's probably not the worst approach? I don't know if anyone has good tried and true natural advice for this situation outside of what I mentioned please let me know TheHigherSideChats at gmail dot com So I did want to fit in a couple of questions about that, but i tried not to take up too much time with it because it's just a personal thing that doesn't really apply to many of you. But I am in the light water magnetism camp! It makes a lot of sense to me that these are important and neglected systems for optimal health and it's not just about the good side of these things and what we need but also the bad and what we should avoid

1:15:50 Dr. Cruz has talked at length many times in other interviews about EMF and artificial light, and the intricacies in science of how it affects us way more in depth than today that we did fit in a little bit of that I was also really happy We got to talk about dr Robert O Becker's work anyone who heard the top 10 health books show I did with Gordon on Rune Soup, might remember that The Body Electric Dr. Becker's main book was on my list! It's unfortunate he died in 2008 but i hope that other people continue his work and lean into that premise that the electrical systems of the body and electrical charge is such a huge important thing because it seemed like with more study and experimentation

1:16:43 Some really interesting results could come out of it. But I'd heard Dr. Cruz talk about Dr. Becker's work before, so I knew I could at least squeeze in a small section about it... finally! Can't remember what hour that was in but it is in there somewhere But to me, overall much of what was said is pretty important information. There aren't a lot of people that can deliver it like he can and I'd like to think we covered the spread of Dr. Cruz's expertise and that I made good use of the time. I only wish the audio was good from the start but we're here now time to just let that go Reach out to him if you liked it Let him know that the THC audience is responsive and receptive audience And maybe I CAN get another one down the line

1:17:29 I tried to cover at least a bit of the three pillars, light water and magnetism in the first hour. And in the second we got deeper into the things in modern society that need to be avoided and I tried to drag him into esoteric waters by citing a few of his curious quotes...and well it didn't seem like he wanted to frolic hand-in-hand with me right into the deep end of the pool but we got some good stuff out of it I also like that he has this side interest in Bitcoin. I do too, i know how a lot of people feel about it. I usually just keep it out of the show but its also great that he is so focused on referring to our system as centralized medicine and he draws that analogy between centralized money and bitcoin and I think thats valid

1:18:20 The centralization, the monothink in our medical system is really what needs to change. Let the floodgates open! Let people gravitate to whatever health ideology they want to Sure, that means that we would invite some fraud but there's already a lot of fraud in the system. So it's just really a different kind of fraud It's just maybe alternative woo-woo quackery if you want to use terms like that But a lot of good stuff would be allowed in too and let the cream rise to the top If people want to believe in something that is really out there and doesn't actually have a lot of scientific basis Well, the power of belief is strong right?

1:19:00 So just let it be. Bring out the Rife devices and the Tesla tech, and let's just figure it all out in the light of day. So good stuff! And in higher side news, Let's talk about that last episode with Patrick Harper... My Birthday Show I really enjoyed it, pondering the big questions of life and it looks like it was very well received as I expected. 4.7 from the plus people pretty much the universal rating for what I consider top shelf when I think about the rating system So I'm glad I was right on that. I am a little more unsure of this one, people get very prickly when it comes to health most people have their own paradigm cemented in already and sometimes a single sentence that is not in alignment with it can cause them to write off the whole thing It's not unique to health shows but its certainly amplified whenever we talk about health or diet

1:19:59 Plus, who knows how bad I'm going to get docked for the audio distortions. But I work for the paid subscribers so I just turn in my assignments and hope to do well in my weekly performance review Other than that same old same old let's look at the meetup calendar Right out of the gate it is going down tomorrow March 30th at Fieldhouse Brewing in Abbotsford British Columbia Looks like there might even be a little karaoke there So... Get that voice warmed up April 4th, Flame International Restaurant once again in LA. April 6th Legacy at the Riverfront Tallahassee Florida. April 8th Heartland Harbor in Huntington Indiana Also April 8th we have Buckwater Brew Works and Carbondale Illinois. April 12 Rock Rest Lounge in Golden Colorado. April 13 Clark Park in Philadelphia Pennsylvania

1:20:56 That one looks like it's going to be a seed swap. So if you want to start your own garden, if you have your own garden seeds are very important easy things to take for granted but when you realize just how powerful they are and how much abundance can be arrived from a little pinhead sized seed I mean that's the magic right there And then April 20th, 420 at four 20 the monkey puzzle in London. I would like to see more for 20 events but I'm sure a lot of you have some personal activities already lined up but that's going to be the calendar for April seems pretty full. I'm liking it go to higher side meetups.com to get more details about any of these events or to RSVP for one of them or to make your own

1:21:41 But all right, big thanks to Dr. Cruz for doing this today and Jackie Jo Lee for helping me lock it down if you want more of this sort of stuff listen to the show I did with her Light Shapes Life she is very active on Instagram under that banner and i'm sure she'd be happy to hear from you guys too And that said thanks for listening sign up for plus if you want to hear more of this show and every show much appreciation To those who already are members and I'll catch you next time Your move, sunlight suppressors pill-pushing oppressors and propagators of biological stressers. Your fucking move! I've come for the water The poison's in Uridating It's full of estrogen I made the I bought a ball I made it difficult I've come for your water I've come for your water I've come for your water I've come For Your Water Yeah

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1:23:35 Lead lambs to the slaughter Dead dirt and acid rain I'll do it all again I've come for your water