Clyde Lewis |Hosting Ground Zero & High Strangeness In Troubled Times

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats How the hell are you, Hireside Chatters? Drinking a little drink. Smoking a little smoke and just trying to enjoy my place in this round of recorded history from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and I hope you saved room for dessert because today is a real treat And let me tell you why We all know manipulation runs deep From the coding of language and the altering of natural cycles To the rewriting of history The cloaking of the esoteric The rigging of the global economy And the royal tinkering of everything in between

00:58 Sadly, nearly every aspect of reality has had the puppet string securely fastened onto it before your feet first touch the ground. But be that as it may all hope is not lost because there are those who have dedicated their short manifestations to moving the needle back in the direction of people by exposing corruption and occultism and the agenda of the power pyramid and I'm honored to have such a great example of that noble cause with me here today His name is Clyde Lewis and surely you know him as the host of Ground Zero, really one of the last remaining shows on terrestrial radio that I think is worth anybody's time. One of my favorite spotlight shiners, string pullers and rabbit hole tumblers not to mention a personal inspiration and one helluva host! Clyde Lewis my man welcome to THC

01:37 Welcome. Thank you! I mean, that was a great welcome, I was gonna say...I just have never had something so vociferous in my life There's a word for you, vociferous You can write it down and learn it every day using your words It's so cool, thank you Yeah, you got him man, thank you It's such a pleasure That's good to hear. Yeah, man I like to think that i'm good at what I do because I've been able to cater my process and format To play to my strengths and mask my weaknesses but to go on the radio for three hours a day Monday through Friday live For decades! I can't hold a candle to that man. That's something special Actually, I do five hours which really I may be taking that back though. Maybe back to three hours again I used to do like three hour shows they'd be like two new shows and then they have to do some TV And my gosh, I was just really working hard through these years these years and then took not really a break I was doing tour shows where I was going from bar-to-bar and actually did make sonic temples too. I went in I Spoke amongst the Masons for a lot of people said why don't you do that? So I want to go to the belly of the beast

02:39 shake the tree, then one day I said something bad about Ben Franklin and they kicked my butt out of there. So...I learned my lesson well." Yeah man! I mean, I like that approach and I think those live shows are pretty interesting you're one of the few who's really kind of a pioneer of that in the conspiracy world i think that's awesome Yeah, I mean a lot of things. I think we did in the conspiracy world We pioneered and then we were the first show to be actually streamed online We were the first Online downloadable news show in fact when we were streaming online it was back at the 19 early 1990s And one of the first people we streamed was art bell And Art was very surprised that his show is being streamed he didn't understand what that meant because there was really on

03:20 that i really don't want to go from japan or someplace in shock he said yes uh... we're listening to you quite loses ground zero and parent continual but then from there with this into dreamland and art was all surprised and now are speaking a comeback yeah could be interesting to see what happens with that but in the meantime uh... we would we wouldn't have uh... we've been around as long as our has assisted her i haven't really i didn't really good national until up In the year 2000, I went national and of course Ground Zero happened for real. They told me that I shouldn't use my name and I told them that I would but it was a struggle because they kept me local for awhile now so I'm back being national again which is nice.

04:00 Right on, man. Yeah it's a crazy road I know a couple of the bullet points to your background raised Mormon in Utah left the church started around zero and 95 I believe and yeah just outside of having an interest in the paranormal and a passion for calling out the elite I've heard you talk about several paranormal experiences and strange sightings that you've had personally along the way can tell us about a couple things you witnessed that have left the biggest impression on you I think the biggest impression on me is that he said he was here in Washington State, so it's a big impression on me. He sees UFOs there all the time and did an investigation of the Maury Island case. A lot people say it was a hoax but I think I've opened up the door to have people actually

04:42 actually reacquaint themselves with that case because it was one of those cases, the first cases before Roswell that was really intriguing and I wanted to uncover. And uh... i managed to find information things just landed in front me and so excited about but the thing is research now has kind splintered off there have been people who've written books about it couple people anyway Of course this new movie that was produced that I saw two years ago It's really well done and I'm hoping too I'll turn out my own documentary eventually, if i get my video people to work on it. But in the meantime... I just have to find the right people who want to do the deed and get it done right And then once that's done..I mean there are a lot of stories

05:24 that have been lost because there's so many people out there who were pioneers to what was going on. One instrumental guy, as I said before, the instrumental go-to guy had always been Art Bell and then of course when Art left we had George Norrie take over Coast 2 Coast and Coast 2 Coast was like the end all be all for all I think that's the most important thing. to do the internet shows and say hello to the internet broadcasters as well having some of them on my program because I think that it's almost like this unseen network of people who have these ideas, and seen network of people who have these shows. And many of them did their research in the... I remember Jimmy Church happened to land some research that I was reading about rather than just going out there reporting,

06:25 I said, hey. I know that you've been doing the internet and now you're working on our Bells Network. You need to come on my show." He says people think they were rivaling us. Screw that! We're going to come out and talk about a UFO base in Malibu whether you like it or not we need to open up these discussions and he was all for it. It was really nice because I was able to work with somebody that I had never heard before who I really enjoyed and thought was quite the broadcaster and so it's always nice you know when you can find people who are willing to, if they discover the information they're willing to share with other people I don't believe in taking credit for other peoples information. Although there have been times where like for example there has been information that has been given

07:06 I can't get a hold of them, but I really want to get the information out there and they get ahold with me. And then finally I'll get them out there." It's just a matter of landing the information and finding who is responsible for the information getting interviews with them sometimes it's hard when you hear that the information is being distributed on shows like mine or yours and others we tend to kind of soften up a bit this side they wanted to start talking about which I think Yeah, yeah man I totally agree. These are interesting times it's a bit of technological crossroads when it comes to the traditional media and the alternative media...I think we're in a bit of transition phase but I did want ask you about East City. I'm completely fascinated with that place. I've been wanting go there. I've talked James Gilliland before tell us about some other things you seen there

07:52 Well, the first thing is that Ranch has a power about it that's indescribable. I remember when I went up there for the first time and I wanted to see how this was going to work out. It wasn't something you could get up there and come empty-handed with. I was a guy who knew from the Air Force because UFOs were seen there on constant basis. I didn't want to go up there and see a bunch of satellites or other things that would ruin it for me, so I brought another guy who is with the Air Force

08:28 And he looked at me and said, my gosh, this is the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And what are you seeing? He says these big beam ships flying overhead and we saw something come out of the mountain actually. We saw something open up come out of the mountain. It's Mount Adams. And it was the most remarkable thing to see and for the longest time...I go there once a year Every time I've gone up there, seen something different each time. Something interesting each time. Last year when we went up there, we saw lights come out of the mountain again and this year we're going to bring with us a GoPro mountain climbing team and they're gonna go up there and check things out for us while were there so it's gonna be an interesting time. We are going up there this weekend and it is gonna be a lot of fun." Very awesome man! Yeah, yet have a personal experience and that seems to be the hot spot for it. I guess you also been present for some exorcisms in your life too? Is that true?

09:20 Oh yeah, I don't know if you noticed or not but when i was younger and of course in my bio it says that I did a mission for the Mormon Church and I did. Actually I was a Mormon, my family's Mormon, being from Utah you can avoid it, your Mormons will prove otherwise. I got out of church after my mission only because of the fact that I go so far into everything that I was like okay, you know, I'm through with this but Witnessed exorcisms. I've been involved with exorcisms. I witnessed a voodoo ritual when I was in South America and Some of them, you know, so these things are just bizarre. It's it's faith that very powerful thing and the idea that these things can happen by fake alone or by thinking and perceiving alone it taught me a lot about the power of mind and

10:09 Whenever anybody asked me about the paranormal and paranormal events, they say well it's all in the mind of a person Well course it's on the mind of the person but it's also Something that can be shared with everybody at the same time Which you know makes we wonder about collective thinking exploring about? How the mind and the body exchanges information and whether the information is paranormal or not I think there's a part of the brain that allows for what we call the paranormal But the paranormal becomes a normal part of life. Yeah, and and so it's not really paranormal, it's normal now. And some people fear it and some people if they understand that they don't have much of a fear about because they know that its easily taken care of. It's not like everything is a possession, the worst thing can happen to you. Possession is something that happens to you and can be reversed. Everythings temporary unless of course you have some demon or some spirit thats not from this planet which most people are not

11:05 I've not really had the experience, I've had that experience dealing with spirits that aren't from this planet or from this dimension. And they always tell me you know well there's only one way to get rid of these demons and these spirits and that is to rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ. Then I say yeah well Jesus works a lot he's like the disinfectant for most... You know if you look at ghosts and demons like a disease you know Jesus is the disinfectant but really um there are times when Jesus is the disinfectant or as the antibiotic doesn't work. And so you have to resort to other things and talk them on their level because they're not from this planet, are not from time period that even knew of who Jesus Christ is I mean it's like the world is infinite

11:48 The solar system's infinite dimensions are infinite, and some people believe that... you know of course if they want to believe that they believe that God controls everything. Well he contains- I think He controls everything that has to do with Earth and maybe beyond our solar system, but there are times when I think that we go to other territories where there are other governors that run the show and other presidents who run the show. And I think that if you move into another territory or dimension beating the rules over that, that could be most definitely a possibility. I mean, I'm not beyond the idea of polytheism and I don't really have a belief in Mormon. I was taught Mormon but you know when you go beyond the Mormonism and put that behind you, you tend to say yourself well now i am in search of a belief because the beliefs I had was pulled out from underneath me. I mean I was excommunicated from the church and no longer remember

12:47 So when you have that type of Christianity pulled out from underneath you, and you are saying to yourself, well gee for the longest time I believed in a supernatural church. I believed in young boys talking with God and Jesus. I believed in angels coming down and talking with little boys telling them they can create a church. This is no different than Ezekiel sitting on the wheel Saul of Tarsus seeing a bright light and becoming Paul. This is the same type of stuff. When you look at history, bright lights in the sky, UFOs, chariots of fire or whatever have been the catalyst for changing minds and further religious agendas

13:32 I mean, you just look at the histories and you look how certain types of things have prompted or otherwise created the idea that there needs to be a religion or there needs to be change in religion. And I think they'll happen again sometime if it not be naturally done. It could be faked or it could be... You know some sort of story that a group of religious clerics make up. I mean it just seems to me that we are right before some sort of a deus ex machina which is literally the god from the machine where God comes down or aliens come down, or bright light appears or something

14:09 This is a huge asteroid or rock we all pray to missus by that much and that would be enough. Sparking religious type of movement and i think the word on the verge of that i think with the pope coming out and saying things like well you know the environment is important need some, communitarian government rather than the government we have now. I mean, he's basically preaching globalism and the idea that the environment is a bogeyman that we need to conquer and those who get in our way are immoral. Speaking ex cathedra like that, mixing politics with religion and science and religion as he's doing...I don't know if it's right for religion for it to be that way. In fact, it's a big turnoff

14:48 Because I believe that's how you get more control. You creep in the belief systems of people, you politicize it or otherwise make it scientific and when its done... People tend to think they're critical thinkers but what they've done is taken the magic that was indistinguishable from something simple and made into their religion and dogma which I don't appreciate Amen man, I'm right there with you.

15:28 cryptic clog in the logo to the pattern of military drills being a cover story for engineered tragedy. We've seen that before and one thing I've gotten from your show is this AI component, that this Jade and Jade Helm could be a reference to a computer program running the whole thing? That's pretty wild! Can you tell us a little bit about that component?" The component that I was discussing was a component dealing with the idea of the chain home is actually J1 and J2. What these are, these are actually AI programs and holographic map arrangements where the DuPont company, not

16:08 I'm sorry, not to talk about the Raytheon company. I know why I was saying DuPont because I was talking with a guy today about putting Freon in his truck. No it's Raytheon! The Raytheon company sent out a memo. I had the memo, it was paper that discussed the Joint Air Defense Training Simulation and thatís what JADE stands for, Joint Air Defense Training Simulations so theyíve got the J, theyíve got the A and theyíve got the B with TS, I guess I couldnít put anything else in there but itís called a JADE, Joint Air Defense Training Simulation which is an experimental

16:46 It's kind of synthetic, they're using maps. They did this back in October 2007 and what it did was it provided anti-air warfare training which is something that they were utilizing. There were two naval frigate teams involved, there was an air surveillance combat management team involved, there was a control reporting center and they actually we're doing air training I believe in one of the Carolinas either South Carolina or North Carolina and they were monitoring you know DARPA was monitoring this AI quantum computer technology that produced

17:25 holographic battlefield simulations and last night we were talking about project nimbus and also the possibility of blue beam because they were actually testing the laser capabilities of aircraft being able to produce a number images on clouds in one of the images they produced was a horse riding, a man riding a horse They'll have the same kind of holographic battlefield simulations and virtual technology will be used basically during the drill. That's the reason why they want to master a human domain because they want to have AI become aware and predict human responses to certain types of joint air defense,

18:09 types of you know apparatus and And work so what we're dealing with through dealing with the beginning of something called, you know Which Of course is a frightening thing because sky net of course The Terminator films is a self-aware AI system that runs all war machines and You know That's the biggest I think I think the biggest concern i have you know the idea of having a software artificial intelligence system program itself to declare war on humanity by programming these machines and they already have.

18:46 what they call self-aware machines. I mean, one of them is this drone that's able to be programmed and then on its own able to go out and find target in the destroy target without the... It's like set it and forget it you know? It's like everything by remote control anymore And what we have is, you know, we have everything going on algorithm Basically, the computer detects some sort of malicious algorithm and then that would indicate to whoever is monitoring the situation. Here's a possible malicious threat which would generate

19:30 attention and then of course we get metadata and we get all this other stuff that are, you know they go into social networks and they say well this person who is a supposed threat said this about America said this about this. And has been known to visit let's say sites like yours mine others and they're considering us to be these what you call belligerents so you know the guys that speak out against the government were seditionists So the self-aware system basically dispatches artificial intelligent drones that are auto sufficient and capable of just coming in and secretly targeting your home where you're broadcasting, basically putting a couple bullets in you and then flies away. That's what scary about this type of material. It's what's scary about Jade Helm is that we're looking at joint air defense training simulations where they do this. They say okay computer tell us where these bad guys are

20:27 The computer will go through house to house, scanning computers, scanning cell phones, scanning all this stuff with AI and the AI reports back to a commander or not a commander but reports back to a computer. And then the computer then commands other computers that are They're auto-sufficient and they are capable of attacking to attack or make plans to attack. And it tells the soldiers, okay soldier's computer tells you to jump and they jumped. That's what scary. Yeah man I mean we're entering in the age of Ultron this is like Minority Report with pre crime. The whole idea that this algorithm is going be end all be all and its gonna just solve problems before they occur

21:07 I mean, that's scary territory. I don't know if the public is willing to accept that at this point but they might not have much of a choice. Well what people don't realize is every time they send it Twitter or tweet, every time they're on the phone and every time they're sending out an email and every time their on Facebook, it sends out an algorithm. And these sites are measuring algorithms and can pretty much figure out the overall feeling of the country by reading the emails and reading Twitters and reading Facebooks. Now, not one person is sitting there reading all these Facebooks and making a report now they have a computer analyzing certain words and phrases that are being used in the computer determines what is the overall attitude of country right now okay they could have different when they can add things like you know docile

21:55 They can run it on all kinds of typical topics, what's trending and what isn't. That is how they knew that people were looking at UFO pictures or sex or using porn. People are watching more TV online than they're watching on cable right now. These are the things that they found, that can take what pretty much is a zeitgeist of the country and the world. They can analyze it and it's not so much a geist anymore or a ghost anymore as spirits. It's a living breathing apparatus that can be determined to move in certain directions by certain stimulus

22:42 and modifications and manipulations so they can find out if advertising certain things are working on the public or if certain news stories work on the public. Have you ever noticed that everything that's happening now is done to aggravate the American people? Anything from first it's racism, Then it's taking down the Confederate flag, replacing it with a rainbow flag and people think even homosexual marriage is horrible so they're getting angry about that. And then today you know the whole situation with Iran We've allowed Iran now to go hog wild on their nuclear and it's just pissing off. Israel is pissed off, everybody is getting angry! And so the idea here is they're basically testing the waters to see how angry are people going to get before there's a break in the algorithm when the algorithm bust or breaks we're gonna have civil or worldwide ah-people that could be war declared

23:38 That could mean certain types of words being thrown around in UN meetings. It could mean assassinations, it could be coups, coup d'etats – all these things that they can now pretty much predict using these metadata algorithms and having AI or what appears to be a lower form of AI determine how we feel So anymore what youíre doing is pretty much what theyíve directed, not what youíre really doing. You think youíre making choices but in reality they are coercing you into making choices that make it approximate and thatís why I never noticed your TV shows relate more to you or your movies relate more

24:18 is so real. Why is this movie happening and it's happening now in reality? It's all because of the fact that they have metadata, they can pretty much figure out how you feel and what you're seeing and what certain types of shows movies and TV shows and songs are really people liking. That's really bizarre Yeah man, I mean i usually consider the internet a tool of freedom. It's definitely freed me from the chains of economic slavery but... The truth is maybe that was just an illusion so they could get us to fully pour our hearts out into the open gather data and use it against us just a few short years later

24:54 Well, they are using data against this and that's why you know if you get the right type of people who analyze how people move for example I take Taylor Swift into a picture here. And I know this is kind of bizarre You notice that Taylor Swift has been it's been said that her album is multi-platinum now Mm-hmm and I'm saying to myself well okay She's only been around for a little while she had a country career Why all of a sudden she multi platinum? I think she got smart Got out of the country music scene and decided she was gonna go pop because that's what the trends told her and then She did songs that she knew would touch The right amount of people. And of course now her albums like triple platinum, no one knows why all of a sudden she's got triple platinum She's talented but I mean, I hope she's triple platinum material you know

25:40 Gone are the days of marketing rock and roll music like it used to be marketed. Now, itís all done by algorithms and Twitters and social media and all this stuff so if you get the right kind of consultants who have their finger on the pulse in America And you can figure out what makes people tick, what they want to see and hear. Immediately it becomes just everyday. See the reason why we're seeing certain things and listening to certain things is because the people are saying it without saying it. They're basically writing about things on their internet pages, twittering it, talking about it as being mined when we speak.

26:19 Constantly tightening the screws, constantly refining the control mechanisms. These are troubled times and it is kind of scary stuff but to be fair there's always some researchers in the conspiracy world warning of impending doom but another reason I'm on high alert is not only because of Jade Helm This window of September, October 2015 is being talked about for several other reasons too. I mean economists are talking about a global market collapse around that time Anthony Patch warned about CERN's next big startup at that time he has already been silenced you recently did show about a potential asteroid impact in that window so we got a lot of major threads pointing to this being a time of year The asteroid impact is based primarily on vision and prophecy it has nothing to do with reality

27:01 I mean this guy could be right, he could be wrong. It just depends on what you believe. Anthony Patch did some really remarkable research on CERN and I know Anthony personally. The man is a genius and a lot of people don't realize that he has a lot of secrets. security clearances that he doesn't talk about or boast about, but he certainly has a lot of security clearances. He knows what he's talking about. He doesn't boast his credentials. He just says listen to me and then of course I was at the gathering it was Ground Zero University gathering where he spoke and was approached by the men in black which by the way those two men approached me they shook my hand i was in the hospital 2 hours later they didn't know what was wrong with me

27:42 So I'm a little frightened by that because i think what they did is exchange something in my hand. They poisoned me or made me sick, I had to get a blood transfusion because it was so bad. But uh... It was just an ugly night all together and he was told not to speak and then I had another ghost hunt. I did a ghost hunting seminar with Ground Zero Universe and I was approached by another guy who came up to me said what are your initials? Of course, my real name is Lewis. I go by Clyde because it's my father's name so I'm And he goes, no they're LHC. Get it? I'm going oh my god large hadron collider and that upset me because I was worried because of course you know Anthony got visited by the same people so they want to push me LHC LCH thing so they were basically digging around with my initials I was just like thinking gosh this case will go to no end to make you feel intimidated

28:36 frightened and tried to you know they succeeded i mean i was upset because when the guy left I had tears in my eyes thinking what are they going do me? They already put me into hospital and I'm already pretty fragile with my health at the moment. You know even though I sound like I'm getting stronger every day yeah but after three bouts of cancer, being in a hospital dealing with it putting him into remission fighting like hell to stay alive...I can't have somebody coming up to me basically upsetting me to think that I'm ready to go again because you know, I just hate going through. You know, you go to death's door like two or three times and get kind of tired but you want to live a good life so what am I trying to do now?

29:15 Right, but you know you have somebody come to you and say well I have something to tell you if you don't move Come on yeah, I've faced that story for you can't threaten me. You're gonna kill me better do it right in front of everybody I Don't know what was said to Anthony. And then of course there's the rumor that they killed him which I thought, you know something? I don't. I mean i should know more than him or more than them whoever they are and so I cleared that up quickly because I didn't want anybody to think that he was dead but I mean this type of stuff now uh... I don't necessarily think it's always the government um... I know when people say I was approached by the goverment

30:05 No, you're not being approached by the government. You're being approached by a bunch of opportunists that have the power to shut you down and it's either business people or people from The organization you talking about threatening you I mean they hire their folks too in the private sector It's not just the government is not just the men in black It's something else And I don't think and that's the problem if she never hear that from you know talk show host to talk about this subject matter because they want make it sound so cloak-and-dagger But you know the Cold War is over The men in black showing up are so-called war. Now, it's not just the men in black that will show up but also the police and FBI or NSA who showed up and of course you have a group of individuals in private sector who will try to shut you down. I went on investigation one time.

30:54 I was at Dugway, which is out in the middle of the West Desert and trying to find out if it's a new Area 51. It was hilarious because I went up to the gate and I was doing this investigation talking on camera with a microphone. Somebody saw me when they drove through the gate and figured that I'm screwed now. All of sudden this Humvee pulls up with a group of soldiers who all have these huge guns. One of the soldiers recognized me and said, ìClyde Lewis what are you doing here?î I said Iím doing a report. He says, ìWe know youíre harmless but we wonít stop you but thereís security people here and theyíre not going to be kind to you.î Iím thinking who are these security people that turn out to be whacking huts.

31:35 Sure enough, after the soldiers left me and were there on patrol, the private police came in and they pulled a gun on me. They held it to me and said, ìGet off of the property or weíll escort youî and they actually escorted my crew. off the property of to account right back to solve it can be again and it was just my god you know and that was a good deal forty fifty mile drive anywhere behind us to make sure we were never going across another into their accounting and and uh... you know that had nothing to do with military have nothing to do with men like everything to do with its security firm private security for

32:14 I was hired to protect the secrets of Dugway. That's why i was escorted out, it had nothing to do with anything government had everything to do with a private organization. Yeah man...private security private police private prisons private military that's the way to go they're not as accountable as uh... the military would be a well or government workers would be another and that's what we did in south america when they have to do it where they hired private death squads who go out and do the work that military wouldn't do i mean military in their right minds without fire american citizenry order with a round of american citizens up without feeling a little guilty or you do avoid that situation you hire people who were psychotic enough

32:56 sick enough to basically do these type of things under orders and uh... so they'll hire their own death squads and private mercenaries to do the dirty work for them. And that's how it is done, in that way the government is not held accountable for some rogue group that the government can have some plausible deniability over. They can be hired by the private sector no one could be the wiser. I mean people People can do this all the time, just individuals who feel that you're trampling on something. I've gotten that before too where people walked up to me and said are you something government? No! Who are you? Well i'm just someone who's concerned for your welfare. Well don't be concerned for my welfare and don't come around me and don't threaten because oh my gosh...I take threats very seriously and I don't like people who are that way

33:42 Another thing I've heard about your past flirting with disasters, you had a car blown up one time in the past? Yeah. In 1995-96 that's when it started Ground Zero but see back then... Back then I was kind of what we call a renegade and I didn't have any responsibility. I didn't have any respect. I wasn't thinking I'm some smart ass kid saying you're not going to tell me what to say or tell me what to do And then when some guy brought me a picture of what looked like an alien out in the middle of the West Desert, I posted it up on a wall on another website. I didn't care! I just said hey this is very important that i think that should be getting out there and no one can tell me my freedom speech will be violated but it was when they actually came by

34:37 They came by and told me to take it down. I said no, but they blew up my car. They didn't do it to kill or scare me because they succeeded. I didn't know what to do after that actually. I just thought well…I actually did a show about why your snot was green and why your poop was brown. It's serious. I didn't know what to do. I did a show on grossology because that would be something funny and it would be like a big F you for whoever is coming after me, but turns out the military showed up. They weren't dressed in their clothes they were dressed as civilians who came out to tell me why they think that I was targeted and its because of some secrets they gave about the picture and how I shouldn't have put it there cause I pissed off

35:25 And I said, was it a military person that pissed off? No. They said it was somebody that may have been a manufacturer or someone who had interest in the idea that there was this secret material and they did not post and so that's what happened. Man! Wild ride you've been on, that's for sure. Yeah So there are couple of subjects I wanted to talk about in the wider conspiracy Net I guess like time and cycles. I mean we know that equinoxes and solstices seem to be markers for the elites plans They seem to take stock in astrology Meanwhile they push to us that it's a bunch of silliness The manipulation of time and the changes have been made at the calendar over the years leap years daylight savings time Starting the week on Sunday instead of Saturday these kind of things are

36:11 They're kind of a more recent fascination for me. The idea that this screws up our natural rhythms and makes us more controllable, it's something you've talked about a lot how deep does this go in your eyes? I believe that they're eventually going to go to the 13-month calendar. That's something they've been wanting to push for some time, and I thought they were gonna do it after 2012 actually. I was thinking that December 21st 2012 would be like the end of an era, and then what we'll do is force structuring a new time in a new era And the reason why I was thinking about this is because of course Greenwich is zero time, you know 0-0-0 and they were the ones that are basically the time keepers. Well Islam stood up and said we're building a big clock over Mecca

36:56 and we want you to know that we are the golden mean, and that we are the center of universe. And we should be dictating time." Of course they wanted to dictate time back to the moon calendar which is 13 months. Then they added extra zodiac sign which was the old zodiac sign of Ophiuchus And that didn't catch on very well, but still it was the idea of 13 houses rather than 12 houses. All these things were basically to prepare us for the possibility of a 13-month calendar where it would be equal 28 days each calendar. But that hasn't happened yet and the idea also new hour which a new hour way we work so it'd be different work week maybe like

37:41 Three-day work week, four day work week and possibly more hours in the workplace. And of course the idea of a 13 month calendar and they were saying that would be better for us than the 12 month calendar we have now. It will keep us more equal and balanced and everything else. We'd actually have more time but the thing is doing it with you now they take away time. That's why we have leap year is because of that very reason. We don't need leap year if we just even out the calendars and make it a 13-month calendar rather than 12 month calendar." I don't know if they're going to do this anytime soon, but there will be a reason in the near future whether it's five or ten years down the road who knows? But I think they are slowly working their way to changing the way we look at time and put back the way it used

38:28 Yeah, I'm fascinated with that thread. And another element of this you've talked and written about quite some time ago that stuck with me for probably two years it's been but the phantom time hypothesis. I think this is so interesting can you tell people a little bit about what that entails? Okay, um... It's a little complicated but i'll give it a shot The Phantom Time Hypothesis There was I don't even know if it's a theory. I think that somebody was presented in Germany, if I recall... ...that there was a possibility that early timekeepers and historians had literally faked the histories of actually, it just suggests the Middle Ages 614

39:20 around 614, 911 AD never happened. That nothing happened during that time. That recorded history was faked and it's something that is not talked about because the idea though You know that time period 614 to 911 never happened and it was added to the calendar later There's a misinterpretation of documents. It was false either that or the church at the time Or they the people who kept you know, the records right? We're doing deliberate falsification And of course the calendar with something that was very valuable so there were conspirators who wanted to basically screw with history and

40:02 So what it would mean if that was to be the truth is that all the artifacts and all of the three centuries that are there belong to other periods. And so, what we got is a time where no – a time with no time and this has happened many times in history where there's really nothing to be said about certain time or certain epochs and so the guy I think harbored it was the guy who came up with the idea what he did is determine that historians have admitted to their goodness documents from the middle ages don't necessarily measure up to scrutiny, and that these falsified accounts in history seem to be found more and more. And this has been going on for some time I think they first discovered and first brought this forward in 1986. It was indicated that many of the documents produced by the Roman Catholic Church during the Middle Ages were created hundreds of years before

40:58 And then basically they just left a couple centuries open with no talk, and they just added these things later. So what we have here is this medieval society that was lost and many of the things we make up about medieval society are all pretty much fantasy everything that has happened between 614 and 911 AD were skillfully forged, and all these things were basically anticipated in the future but they never really happened. So there's discrepancy in calculating the dates and figuring out so you need to ask yourself put yourself into today's contemporary history

41:38 And notice that, as you said we've been seeing a lot of things happening with regards to what the future is supposed to be rather than what it is. You've heard people say well all going die 10 years because global heating or global warming whatever never happens so they go back and redo the facts and ideas about temperature and idea about industrial age and how its impact. Of course there's Osama Bin Laden death He said he died May 1st, 2011. But many people know that between the 9-11 attacks and the time of the announcement of his death we somehow had his death... There was a news report, and you look this up CBS News reported January 20th 2002 that some of Inlad was hospitalized for dialysis treatment in the Pakistani Military Hospital

42:30 I think it's a good thing that we're doing this. the pale for authorities to lie about history or to lie about time frames and their time discrepancies. So they have these times like from 600s to 900 being falsified and being done so for three centuries is not out of the ordinary when communications were that small. So, the authorities can lie about the time put that in history and no one would know the difference. Same with what's happening here I mean officially we'll think that Osama Bin Laden died mid-first 2011 but the world would know he died sometime before Christmas 2001 Those are really the threads and theories

43:26 I love the most, the ones that rip the lid right off what i think i know and really challenge me to see how open is my mind? How much really could have been manipulated. How many bold moves on the conspiratorial chessboard could they have made and rewriting a 300 year chunk of history or just writing it not even rewriting because I guess it might not have happened at all But that is really bold and the level of control that someone would have to have over basically all of humanity to institute such a thing. I mean, those things really challenged me and let's talk about the Vatican a little bit because they obviously had a huge seat at this table there are power center that's been behind a lot of manipulations in the past now they've called for mass exorcisms in Mexico and in the US

44:13 When it comes to dissecting the Vatican's role and the depths of their secrets, what has interested you the most? What have you found out?" Well, they're idea of controlling and connecting with what is known as the Roman Superstate which of course they want to re-establish. But the Roman Superstate will not be officially established by the Pope, it would be officiated by a number of other people who would claim to have divine right. So what you're seeing here is that the Pope now becoming a spokesperson for both politically and scientifically charged dogmas that are being mixed in with the other dogmas

44:50 He's making it sound ex-cathedra, which of course may or may not be true. This would in turn create a schism in the church and then there would be division but of course there'd have to something that would reunite and put together all of the churches and all of their philosophies that tend to move towards the idea of a pantheon based on earths and nature and all these things people claim to be pagan uh... and this will happen you know over time but it's still up for grabs to who was going to be the anointed one two handle the charge of running the roman superstate my fingers pointed at prince william of wales that he would be the one to be chosen to do this in a reason why is because we receive both the orthodoxy and the rest of the church coming together they need any

45:41 business or at least what they call a focal point over who actually rules the world. We know that the world is being run by a few bankers, most of these bankers have been called Jewish bankers and basically fuel the funds for England, Rome and terrorist organizations All these people declare war and create war. But one of the things that's interesting about the royal families are, the royal families consists of human beings who believe that they are divine and have divine bloodlines tracing all the way back to what is known as the Anglo... They're called the Anglo-Jews or the Anglo-Jerusalem, the idea that England also has divine blood

46:26 that the English monarchies have divine blood, that if we trace to King David and in some cases trace to Christ even though it's false they've had genealogies being falsified but what is happening is we constantly are hearing that you know this divine kings and these divine queens and all these are pretty much working their way into rediscovering their powers. We killed off the monarchies in World War I and World War II, but now we want monarchies back. We want empires back. Somehow we're drawing ourselves back to the idea of empirical... actually literally an empirical cult or imperial cult. And this is the idea that many people don't realize that we want to be ruled by

47:15 I think that's a great question. basically urban agnostic or urban atheist type leader who somehow believes that he is divine by blood right which of course the royals believe they are and you have people like Prince William being married on a cosmotic pavement which is a sacred sidewalk where only the king in the world is allowed to be married there. And so that makes you know that makes william the king of the world or rex moody which if you go to local rex mcgee is rich when he's always been considered uh... type of anti christ because what he does is he literally lies about his lilies towards royalty divinity into god and then in reality just counterfeit

48:04 I think this is what I mean by the synagogue of Satan. Those who put themselves in positions of power call themselves the direct bloodlines to be You know, the old Israeli kings and Hebrew Kings and that sort of thing when in reality their blood is no different than yours and mine. And the whole idea that they produced the idea that Jesus Christ never died on a cross actually survived it and then he moved to france in that he had children in europe units itself canopy uh... kind of destroys idea what the church is about that is not resurrection and about death without raising from the grave but if that didn't happen then this basically subplots be towards the the very foundation of what the christian churches about and this is what will be revealed eventually is that it that uh... those who are power

49:01 that have been all this time pretending to be part of some great and wondrous church are gonna basically take it down and say that never happened. Yeah, the Vatican is definitely involved in a lot of weird stuff I mean one piece of the puzzle that some researchers have brought up but they never go into too much detail about i've tried to read some links wondering if you've heard much about it but some researchers talk about their observatory and their fascination with the Orion Nebula Have you hear anything about that? Do you have any idea what that might be about Lucifer in arizona that's their observatory using in there to look into.

49:39 Wormwood for one and the other is extraterrestrials. They are fascinated by the idea of extraterrestrials arriving on this planet, literally converting them to Christianity I guess but that's one reason. The other reason like you said they're very concerned about the Orion area because it has been rumored that where the gods come from is in that area of the galaxy There are two areas, actually. There's Orion's Belt and then from there you can move into the House of Ophiuchus which is usually the other place where they say the gods have come from. They're healing gods that's why it's a snake handler. The snake was always represented as a healing type of creature I mean that's why in the Bible you read

50:21 of the fiery serpents and how Moses raised a snake onto a pole. If you looked at the snake hanging on the pole, that would give you relief from whatever's going on and of course Christ eventually was the snake on the pole as well And if you look at a dollar sign it's a snake on a pole It's all there to relieve your pain pretty much Man, and what fascinates me in the modern world and looking at the history of banking... Of course you know now economic slavery is the name of the game. And we don't see the linkage quite as clear anymore as we used to but when this alchemical transmutation of debt into currency was first being perfected This spell was spawned by these ancient banker priesthood's and there was such a connection between the two I wonder if the original idea even came from them sometimes because they seem to be in contact with something

51:11 Go all the way back to the 9th Templar. They were the first to have loans, they were the first to have checks and they were the ones that were exchanging money. You can go all the way back to the money changers at the temple but I don't know if you could name them one by one but certainly look up the 9th Templar as a more recent type of historical figure that was handling banking Doing what they were doing in fact when they took all the temple money, and they sold them any from the church I mean that was a pretty big deal so of course That's why most of them were killed and you know The church got a hold basically killed him and accused him of Satan worship So I mean you go back to the ninth temple or you'll find They were one of the first who established the modern banking system right then how? Likely do you think it is that there could be something non-human at the top of the power pyramid

52:00 I don't know. It's called a synarchy, being run by some powerful entity that is not human or more godlike or extraterrestrial or even dimensional. I was told once by a guy who purported to be a man in black at MID and called himself Mr N He said that Americans, the world actually doesn't realize that there is no head. That everybody works for themselves and there are groups of men who put themselves above other men so there's so many tiers to the pyramid but everything all goes to one particular head

52:42 Apparently it doesn't because there are a few people that basically act without even a sense of morality. So they're the ones that seem to be the very threatening ones, the hold the power and the ones with no morality and that's why we love our psychopaths is because anybody psychopathic enough to run a group of individuals into the ground or command armies to have them go kill at a command or do things like this or witness the pain and suffering in the group of individuals you were supposed to preside over just ignoring them... That takes one hell of a psychotic mind, or a psychopathic mind to do that. And so just the idea that there are men in power that are vampires and the metaphor of the vampire steps in here and says you know, the vampires are running this show, the vampires are running the theater and they're picking and choosing those they eat on a regular basis and uh... that's the thing is you want hope that your not in the crosshairs one of these vampires who wanna take your soul, your blood everything else it goes with it and it seems more people

53:40 give in to that victimization rather than to fight back and then know that they do have more personal power against this type of authority than their real life. Yeah, and we're lucky that we can find each other now on the internet! We did talk about that a little bit—the positives and negatives I mean it could be data mining for the Jade Helm operation? And again i've always thought of it as a positive thing but something you said recently that really resonated with me about the internet is that suggested that it might work as a pressure release valve. That as long as someone has a social media platform to rant on, then they'll just get it all out there and go back to their shitty job in the morning and be a good little worker bee like they're programmed to be. And I think there might be a lot of truth to that.

54:25 People feel they're doing their time or doing their bit by getting a word out. It may not be the correct one, but they feel like they're do it and people believe that they are awake if they just post stuff on the internet. Being awake is a day-to-day thing. Being awake is not just putting things on the internet and giving people to pay attention saying I'm awake now. It's the idea of being fully aware of your fellow man, fully aware that everything that these guys are doing in power there to fool us and to divide us. And the more you are divided, the more you play into Engel and Marx's vision of the future where everything that the puppeteers want you do, you do. It just opens up a dialogue for more ideas of state socialism and rights being taken away and everything else it entails. I mean communism hasn't been successful for a reason but everybody is certainly trying

55:22 best to make it work and that's the problem is that you know people don't realize that there is a plan and that plan has been tried many times because it sounds so perfect but it doesn't happen. And, it always ends up being a mess or something a problem." I sometimes wonder...or worry since I've been thinking about this that maybe there's an element of what we do that plays into the same trap? Do ever consider that? Well, I mean we contribute to it too. Any piece of bad information that we report and echoes through the internet and goes through time... Once again it goes back to what I was saying last night whatever can be fake or real but whatever your brain registers as being real remains real until otherwise and still stays real in your mind Your conscious self knows that its not real but you're unconscious self doesn't know

56:13 Once it's filed away, it is a possibility. It's filed as yes rather than no. Whatever you expose yourself to entertainment-wise or music wise and whatever you look on the internet that stuff was there to be placed into your into your back programming so you have it there whether it's profane or reverend or whatever, its all there. Same with the internet! The internet has plenty of fake stuff on it, plenty of real stuff on it, plenty of misguided stuff on it but doesn't matter, it still remains there as something to use a source And that goes back to what we were talking about, how we present interesting perspectives. Not necessarily the gospel truth and people get upset that sometimes the perspectives might contradict it but is kind of difficult and I've had some little run-ins with misinformation or things that were said on the air there are things that were presented that I wish I could have taken back right after... The best thing you can do is apologize and move on if they don't like it as Radio Disney to listen too. That's what I tell people

57:14 If you don't like me, two frequencies down and you listen to the Mickey Mouse station. That's okay because the Mickey Mouse station gets old really fast and it'll be coming back to me sometime soon so I don't feel badly about telling people that the Mickey Mouse Disney Station is just a couple of tours down. They can listen to country music until their head explodes." I'm here to deliver honest information. If I screw up, I will correct that information if I know that what I'm giving you is something interesting and something to take home or something to think about. My job isn't here." I used to say like everybody else, we're bringing the truth but now I'm not bringing the truth anymore.

57:52 I'm bringing something honest. The truth is only within you, it's not out there but in you so if the truth can be found within you then your taking the time to find the truth and I am not here to give you a truth or give and to be told what to think or they want to continue push their hate, or they want to hear that everything's falling apart. And they certainly have something wrong with them and that's why I look at it. Sure, I can report everything is falling apart and there is nothing we can do about it but sometimes I just wanna take a break and I wanna report about things that I find fascinating and that's what I do. Agreed man! Well said

58:43 Well, Clyde this has been awesome. A bit of a milestone for me man it's been a privilege to talk to you and a ton of fun It's about time we call it in Of course remind the people where and when they can catch Ground Zero but also let them know if you got any other events or field investigations out there that they should know about We're going to East City on the 17th uh...we're gonna be there for three days I'm leaving Sunday morning, maybe go to a Bigfoot convention or an air show. In the meantime we're doing that investigation and in October I'll be in Conspirazone which will be speaking with people like Jordan Maxwell and others looking forward to it. It will be in Hollywood California. Details will come as soon as we get closer to it.

59:23 many howling scares coming up all kinds of things we've worked for a normal course we have a little bit parapolitical to get to his studio begins its uh... it's uh... you know ten-year history story and states tomorrow it's all kind of interesting stuff the works around so tonight we talk about report from iron mountain was very fast i think i want to show people to stop in the planning stages is sixties and uh... it'll really post my son hoping to do that before they can't blow your minds teaching people and getting them acquainted with things they didn't normally talk about. So there we go. Amen, Clyde Lewis blowing more minds in the US military. I love it! Okay great. Very awesome well thanks again man watch your health and take care of yourself out there. I'll do that thank you all right man take care good night take care

1:00:09 There we have it party people, another THC in the bag. Two more to go in the month of July and then I'm scrambling to get a few shows scheduled while I'm out in Armenia It is tough being a one man show sometimes but I think I make it work! It does get harder all the time though... I was very surprised this show sort-of stumbled into existence But I've always considered Clyde one my favorite hosts still on the terrestrial airwaves And some might consider that being a little bit like the world's tallest midget, because it's slim pickings on the AMFM if you ask me. It is great that Clyde was able to leave the Mormon church and forge his own path. It couldn't have been easy and obviously he still incorporates some of Christianity into his worldview a lot more than me but sometimes you just have to use your own discernment when listening

1:00:51 a host or show you like. I'm sure you guys know about that, you do it every day." You probably have to write off half of my craziness but he is a staple in my conspiracy journal and i thought was a fun time. I wish she could've been on his studio mics but the station runs other shows during that time so we had to go with the phone Either way, in the second hour we talked about some other far out things. The flat earth theory resurgence how many people are talking about that? All the researchers out there making that their thing We also talked about the hollow earth theory Strangeness and space Mars and Saturn Jumping timelines And a few other aspects of the weird reality we live in I think this AI angle to Jade Helm is super interesting especially if you put any stock in predictive programming and preludes to the plan being in Hollywood movies and mainstream TV because it's

1:01:38 It's kind of the thing that has been the theme for most this years summer blockbusters. I don't know, but speaking of blockbusters and things that are over... That is it from me this week! Your move Ultron Skynet and the other machines of the computer controlled police state. As they're sent to the game and torn apart We twist this tourniquet upon the pipeline That it carries all the pain in the wounds As we blindly clap and cheer from the sidelines It's clear, on a losing streak from the restart And that's where they'd be In our cemetery

1:02:44 A smoking gun in my I'm down for the end of the THC The American scream They took that faded ribbon off the oak tree Worn out all hope in their arms Long thought I was doing Now I'm lying in a pool of my blood And that's where they found me

1:03:29 In the cemetery A smoking gun in my- In the land of the free Sing with me And that's where they found In the cemetery A smoking gun in my ear Now I'm down From the land of the f- THC The American scream! American scream!

1:04:24 And that's where they found me, in my cemetery A smoking gun down from the window screen Sing with me, then I can scream