Clive De Carle | Tesla’s Healing Device, The Secret Health Club, & Urine Therapy

00:08 The planet's puppet masters almost surely haven't There clearly may be something there beyond the realm of man And until you've thoroughly tested every last closed chest it feels unless you really We'd be without THC, we know they're lying to us just don't know about THC The higher side chats show Greg Carl wouldn't come for me Boom goes the dynamite! From The Sunshine State, I'm Greg Carlwood and if one was looking for signs of decline in Western civilization they wouldn't have to look very far. Not only are we led by the least among us but we've allowed ourselves to be mystified by many of the empty promises of industrialization and the false idol of corporate profit-driven scientism

01:04 calling it progress to have an oil and plastic based society with factory farms and manufacturing complexes poisoning the water, land and air in exchange for very little. We've accepted chemical-soaked crops, sick livestock animals and lab made frankenfood as some sort of modern improvement on what we already had provided abundantly by the natural system. And these corporate megalithic destroyers of worlds hide the slavery in their supply chains, obscure the truth of their products' health consequences and make hundreds of millions a year While the few food suppliers and goods makers committed to doing things the right way struggle to stay in business, it's about as backwards as could be. And instead of confronting this reality we beg and plead for more screen-based entertainment and a few more pills to help quell the stirring in our guts and thoughts that are so off course that the work required just seems too daunting to endure."

02:03 But there is still light in the darkness and people like today's returning guest Clive DeCarle who not only went through his own dark night of the soul, a natural healing process after being helped by medical experts in a way that made minor issues turn into much bigger ones. But he has since committed himself to promoting the natural ways offering high quality nutrient and vitamin supplementation and highlighting the healing technologies that the nefarious few have tried to keep us from learning about You can find his offerings at CliveDeCarle.com as well as join his secret health club, a closed-door repository for an avalanche of important information studies presentations and all that one could want in terms of health and wellness He was here in 2017 and again in 2021 And I am very much looking forward to the trilogy Let's do it! The medical machines illusion buster big pharma fighter and path to health provider Clive welcome back to the higher side

03:00 Thank you so much, Greg. Brilliant! Fabulous to be back. Yes it's a real pleasure. You're extremely knowledgeable and well-rounded when it comes to all things health and wellness. It seems like All of us are just a little broken or suboptimal in one way or another. And we can often link that right back to some aspect of the big machine and our modern ways of living, and as bleak as I made that intro sound, I do actually have a bit more hope that the tide is turning after the last couple of years but this is where you're focused day-in and day out what do you think? Would you agree?"

03:39 Well, people are waking up a little too slowly for my liking but nevertheless. A lot of people who've been jab injured obviously are waking up you know loads of people are seeing it for what it is which is good I mean clearly the problem in the world is government there is really no other problem I mean psychopaths are in control and have been for a long time You know, I think it would be so easy to change everything and as much as you're in America like in England don't know how many public servants you have in America. Everything from the army to every government official so speak people got millions of them and

04:16 Those public servants have forgotten the definition of the word servant. They've turned against us, haven't they really? So I would say if we redefine the word servant just in case they haven't quite got the gist of what it means then we take you know that Congress Senate and so on there's nothing really wrong with those organizations if they were run by nice people are not psychopaths If you took corporations and you made the directors of corporations individually liable, just like if you run a small company. If your director is individually liable and then you change currency on government so that their currency doesn't work anymore or you could say

04:57 that just like the greenback dollar or the Bradbury pound in England, the government could print its own money at no interest based on what? Based on the value of the country itself. You know, the land, real estate, everything... America for instance is worth a fortune and there's no need to borrow money from banks at interest. It has been done in the past when that was avoided Do you know about the Bradbury Pound Not specifically, not too much. Okay so 1914 England declared war on Germany at the beginning of the First World War and clearly there was a panic. There was the possibility of bank runs and this is absolutely real possibility that literally the next day the entire financial system could fall apart because of a bank run. So what the government did is they declared a bank holiday. So banks were shut

05:55 and they cut out the banks completely, and printed their own money now. The bank holiday lasted about three days and on the fourth day when the country, the banks opened up. The big worry for the government was would the people accept this new currency these new notes? And on the first day they didn't have time to print both sides of the new bank notes they only printed one side and the Secretary of State or whoever it was at the time was called Lord Bradbury and these pound notes were called the Bradbury Pound now I don't know that it's the same in America, but in England the coins are printed without interest by the government themselves. It is only the notes that bear interest so suddenly people did accept this new money and for a couple of weeks or so England was running on money that wasn't borrowed against debt but it was borrowed against the value of England limited or UK limited so to speak and

06:59 they got away with it. So there's a history, and the same is true in America with the greenback, there is a history of governments cutting out the banks and printing their own money without interest. And if you do that, quantitative easing, there is no printing of money against debt and devaluing the currency. It's the other way around so in my opinion if you make those four changes change the currency change directoral responsibilities for corporate directors change the definition of the word servant what it really means and change out all people in Congress and Senate or Parliament with people who care who are lovely yeah

07:41 I mean, I totally agree with you on what those solutions should be. It's just that we are kind of stuck in a position of not being able to implement them but we shall see as time marches on but in previous interviews, we focused largely essential vitamins and minerals that many of us are depleted in, magnesium iodine zinc vitamins CD and so on. And I'm sure we'll touch on that again but you told me that you've been quietly healing a lot of folks with devices that Tesla had invented and you showed me a video where you healed 34 people in a row from various pains that they had and it was quite impressive

08:28 They all reported radical reduction of pain and most of them seemed quite surprised. But talk to us about these devices in the history of this much lesser known health aspect of Tesla's work? Well, it is very interesting. I mean, Tesla was the greatest scientific genius ever now more or less written out of history because they don't really want you to know. The car is named after him and for very good reason. Tesla was the man who basically brought electricity as we now know it to the world, I think he was more responsible for the light bulb than Edison was they worked together and Edison robbed him basically so i was working with a medical doctor some 20 years ago and he told me that tesla had developed these devices and they used to be in hospitals and dentists use them doctors use

09:22 And he said, you should find one and buy one. So I did so I bought one that had actually been it was actually a diathermy device and it had been built in the 1980s. It's quite late here the first diathermy devices were demonstrated by Tesla's protege as you might say in the 1890s but this was a late one and it only had one knob like a volume knob that was it I was given a 10-minute lesson over the phone as to how to use it. And so happened my next door neighbor bumped into me and said he hadn't been able to drive for some months because his neck was completely frozen solid, nobody had been able to release it. So I used the machine first time ever on this guy's neck 15 minutes later complete freedom of movement, be able to drive again and then the problem never returned

10:14 Second time i tried it, i popped in the back of the car so i can invite you to a party and this guy was brought over to me he could barely walk he looked awful just awful and explain to me that twenty years before He'd been working as a DJ, he was quite well known and he had seen the speaker column tower going to collapse and possibly kill this girl underneath. So he rushed towards it and propped it up and in doing so, he crushed three vertebrae on his back. And he said that the only reason that he came to party was because of the ridiculous amount of morphine and painkillers that he had just taken earlier on. And I treated him and he comes out of pain completely utterly.

10:53 And I was shocked, he was shocked. And I said to him look you know this is only the second time i've used a machine and I don't know what's really happened here but take it easy right? So I leave the party at midnight or something go home. I get a phone call 8 o'clock on the dot next morning so Clive had the best night ever I said really? He said yeah danced till 4 in the morning oh god and he said, I'm in more pain now than i've ever been come back and treat me again. So treated him again for about 15 minutes and bang! He's out of pain again stayed out of pain for two years but had to come back and do another 10 minutes or something so that was one of the technologies and that was the one they used in hospitals. So I bought a hospital piece of kit now I've got

11:43 Every American hospital of note would have had a diathermy machine and you can buy modern diathermy machines now but they're not what I use. I use my diathermy machine if nothing else works, but the classic Tesla device was originally called Tesla High Frequency Device. And now for the last many years, I've been tracking them down and a few people who work with me around the world who we know which are the ones to buy and we find them and restore them. Now there's separate little business which supplies them to practitioners or in some cases just people at home use them because they're

12:29 super useful, but let me tell you a bit more about the history of electrotherapy. So in England there was some religious guy called John Wesley who's very well known and 200 something years ago he was curing people with electrical devices. At that point, they didn't have batteries as we know them now – they had laden jars but you could carry a charge just like a battery does and he was curing people of all sorts of things from visual problems to pretty much everything so by 1843 Guy's Hospital in London one of the big ones in London in 1843 Guy's Hospital opened their electrotherapy department way before drugs

13:11 in the patented sense came out. So from 1843, they were curing people with electrotherapy so by the time Tesla was making his devices in 1890 you know it wasn't a new science completely his take on it was completely new because how he made the machines was using resonating Tesla coils. So in both types of machine, you've got two Tesla coils and they're tuned for resonance now as we know we are beings of resonance really what resonate maybe is what happens to you how you feel what your resonate goes out it comes in so what he discovered was that by tuning

13:57 the Tesla coils to each other correctly, he could deliver what some people might call scalar wave technology. You know, with a normal light bulb, you know, normal electrical appliances you've got positive and negative. With scalar or linear, so to speak just got the positive, you only need one wire for it to work and he was the person who first developed neon lighting and all sorts of things. Tesla was a genius. He invented remote control. He was driving his car electrically by powering it from his office until they banned him from doing it because it's scaring people but he found that

14:34 blowing glass and trapping gases like argon or neon or nitrogen into vacuum, so 500 minus vacuum. He could illuminate it just like you do a neon light and if he touched it against the body electrons and photons in the photons of light electrons over sort of the energy would flow into the body now We're familiar with photons because we've been outside in the sun. We're familiar with electrons because when we touch the ground barefoot, you know grass for instance, we are receiving electrons from the planet and bearing in mind that were meant to be barefoot and we are meant to go outside a lot most people have rubber-soled shoes and they don't touch the ground so they do not get the natural electrons that animals or we should be getting

15:26 they're grounded essentially. So when you do exercise, now that's creating electrons. Why is exercise good for you? Partially because you're charging your body up with electrons so how else can you get electrons well antioxidants, vitamin C, glutathione there are all sorts of ways fruits and veg to get vitamin c and vitamin c also creates electrons So, using a Tesla device you can achieve the same thing with maybe 1000 times more potency which is why results happen very often most of the time in minutes. The fastest result I ever had was 10 seconds. This woman come to me and was giving a talk demonstrating the devices and she comes up to me she can barely talk she's got locked jaw

16:15 So I put the general electrode on her jaw and before I had time to say, you know, I'm turning it up. Can you feel it yet? Her mouth dropped open she was talking normally so for a long time we didn't really discuss this technology at all But now if people are interested, then for a pound or dollar you can join secrethealthclub.com and you can get on to the Tesla device pages and you could learn the basics about it. Back in the day these things were taught to doctors so there are loads of medical books about this stuff at that time but they're quite hard to find. So what happened is

17:00 1891, Tesla is touring Europe and while he patented all his scientific inventions he never patented the health inventions. He didn't feel that was appropriate so just gave the technologies away and various scientists if you like ran with it. Tesla himself built machines and showed them at the World's Fair, you know, the Chicago World's Fair in 1893 because he was the most famous scientist in the world at that point he lit the World's Fair It caught on like wildfire. So by, say the turn of the century there were several manufacturers making these some well some not so well and dentists discovered them and they became a staple of dentistry and many of the sets that I find are ex-dentists equally doctors use them i've got one set

17:54 which is in a highly polished wooden box with a handle. And it's got five different electrodes in it, one general purpose, one for the thyroid, one for the spine and want to charge you up with energy, charge your whole body at once and there's another I can't remember... Anyway that one not only treats you for pain stuff but you can also do surgery with it. And ophthalmologists in hospitals still use diathermy today because if you want to cut the eye, you don't want bleeding which might happen with a scalpel. So they often use electrotherapy because it cauterizes sort of burns if you like the capillaries shut so there's no bleeding. Of all the devices I've come across over the decades, I've never come across anything more effective than the Tesla devices yes there are loads of fantastic devices out

18:51 I've got a small one to carry in the car and then bigger one if i'm seeing clients. It's just incredible, and it's not just pain I use it myself on my eyes, but I've got no way of telling if it's working or not. I've got a couple of videos up of people who have been to the eye hospital because they were really desperate infection in the eye and in one case you can see it on video at the hospital, the eye hospital recommended six months of steroids and six months of antibiotics and they frightened her by saying you might lose your eye

19:28 Anyway, she borrows a machine off me because she's a friend and by that evening she is better. The next morning she said to herself I can't remember 85-90% better and it just healed up because we don't heal because of lack... you know many reasons why we don't heal but one of them is lack of electrons. We're not eating food that's fresh. You might eat fruits and veg but if its 24 hours old hasn't got nearly as much vitamin C as it did when it was picked. We're not doing the exercise we should. We are not touching the ground barefoot And it's an extraordinary way that Tesla found to literally get people back in balance. Yeah, it makes sense to me we are electric beings and the more we learn about this component of the stack that makes up a human, the more we find out how important it is and I guess

20:19 These devices are still somewhat a little bit underground because you said you've used them for a couple of decades now, but you haven't really talked about them despite how effective they are. Is that out of caution because of certain people who don't want these devices out there? All the practitioners that I know either don't have a website or It's just word of mouth. I mean, nobody wants to attract attention so to speak and you don't want to be sending practicing medicine without a license or who knows what but all sorts of professions use these 1910 1920 1930 even barbers used them right to regrow hair. They were commonplace. You could buy them at the pharmacy

21:11 And the problem now is actually, funnily enough not finding them. It's finding anybody who knows how to repair them. There are only probably two people that I know in the States who I would rate are able to repair them and even then they can't repair all of them because they're not familiar with them. One doesn't do repairs and the other Well, I'm keeping him busy quite honestly preparing stuff. So there are really probably only maybe five people or six people somewhere in the world who pretty much know how to do it. My best restorer has been at it for 20 years and between him and myself we've got stacks of spare parts and he's now super familiar so it's incredible technology. People are very wondering how they could get one and what the prices

22:03 and restored, they sort of start around the $2,000 mark for a really good one. They're mostly 100 years old so as we've worked out over the years which ones stand the test of time and which ones just crumple to dust when you try to use them. So a good one here at $2000 or something then it goes upwards like to $10,000 for the super professional simpa-dupa or singing or dancing that you can do anything with because Tesla was making electrodes in the 1890s for almost every body part you can think of. So people were using it for embarrassing vaginal type issues, because you could use an internal one and then we're using them for prostate, people would buy them at home

22:56 And you know, there's one for the heart, one for the lungs. One for literally every part of them from breast enlargement to eating it... You name it! There was an electrode for almost every purpose you could think of and some people might be asking a question are there any dangers using this technology? There is only one that I've discovered and I'll explain that to you as it was explained to me by probably the person in the States who knows more about these machines than anybody. At one point, he had over 7000 different electrotherapy devices 11 000 including all the ones that we use in all the Frankenstein movies for 30 years right up to young Frankenstein and all those machines were real machines that were used by crazy medical people. Anyway

23:47 So, yeah the danger. The one danger as it was explained to me. What happens is that if you put it straight on skin that's great. If you hover above the skin sparks can jump so if you're using a reptile electrode he explained that you don't want to fart. Okay noted! Yeah, so this is the danger and you really don't want to do that. I mean like i don't know anybody's ever done it but you just wouldn't want to explode. No no uh but these devices for people who obviously are listening to an audio show they're about the size of a suitcase it looks like they look kind of steampunky with all the

24:32 metal components and it just seems like you take a wand with this electrical charge and rub it against the part of the body, in most cases back knee jaw that has the pain. And people are relieved almost every time. It's pretty amazing that this kind of thing could be suppressed and is suppressed and so effective. Well, the suppression story is not quite as conspiratorial as you might think damn Well, it's interesting anyway. So when World War II was looming diathermy devices the big hospital machines they could be turned into radio transmitters and the authorities were worried that the Japanese or Germans or somebody might get hold of these powerful radio transmitters so they literally took those ones out of hospitals and had the manufacturers change from long wave to short wave

25:28 So, they weren't such powerful transmitters that way. And it took them a couple of years to realize they didn't work the same way and some people were dying so it was going out of favor rapidly as drugs were patented drugs were becoming the norm and that's where the money is because if you buy machine that never goes wrong I mean my machine from 1931 You open it up, it's like new. I mean this will go on for another 500 years." The quality of the build was so unbelievable but of course that doesn't suit the money industry does it? They want things to break or go wrong and need replacing costing a million quid constantly

26:11 So by the time World War II ended, they totally stopped teaching electrotherapy. Just totally stopped it. I mean they'd already pretty much stopped it before because as you know the Rockefeller Medicine cartel literally went to every hospital teaching school in America and they bribed them. They said, look if you stop teaching all this homeopathy rubbish or this water therapy rubbish or the electrotherapy for the herbalism acupuncture just stop teaching all that just each drug surgery and radiation will endow you with millions of dollars and the hospitals, teaching schools basically took the money as far as I can see. Then they bribed all of government to pass laws which banned healing essentially you know if your in England for instance if I claimed which I can't legally that I could cure cancer

27:03 It's two years in jail for making that claim because I'm not a doctor. If i do use the word cure, I'm spilling it with a K. To use the word cancer, I'm spilling that with a k as well." Right right! It's so silly these things we have to do to get around the medical cartel and On the subject of suppressed devices, you might've remembered that I'm deaf in my right ear or maybe it was just a happy accident. But you mentioned some lost hearing technologies that were common in the first part of the last century that are now as it goes written out of history. I'm very curious about this. Of course there's many different types of hearing loss but what sort of stuff was out there in this regard?

27:49 Okay, well my favorite tool most the first tool of choice would be to use the ear attachment with the Tesla high-frequency device now There's no guarantee. It's going to work but more often than not at the very least hearing improves and it's definitely worth trial post you a machine you can try it out and See if it works for you Did you hear what happened to crow? Yeah, he had a stiff finger and you I think it was magnesium that you recommended him to take. And by the end of the interview, he could move his finger again. It was like he had a... The trigger finger was kind of in that trigger pulling position and he couldn't straighten out his finger. Am I getting this right?

28:35 Yeah, absolutely right. It was vitamin C and magnesium one hour later his fingers straightened anyway he purchased a machine and like really everybody people have huge success you know occasionally somebody doesn't have success which is really weird and it brings me on to another element of all this yeah one of the best results I ever had i was using A while ago I was using different frequency devices. I had four modern ones and I'd got them all wired together for super power, and this client He told me he'd got brain fog, he got eyesight issues and was in pain. So I treat him at the end of the session everything's fixed right? Just unbelievable! He is thrilled and as he is telling this to me I glance over to the wall when I realized that I had forgotten to switch all four machines on. He done it himself with belief with hope with whatever it was.

29:34 I mean, I knew that so much is in the mind but that was such powerful proof. It was literally my best result that year and I'd done nothing with it going on you know? So there's that element now I don't know how much is the healer how much as the supplement How much is the person receiving it? How much they want to live or die You know, how much of what is what There's a fantastic book by medical doctor which is called, it'll come to me in a minute. Clearly I've had a long day! Anyway the results with placebos are way off the charts of possibility. Yeah yeah reality seems mainly to be uh a mental conscious phenomenon so i definitely believe we call it a placebo effect as if it's like a fluke but right it really is like a mental willing that turns into healing and

30:36 I also wanted to ask you just a little bit about the jab because some of your recent videos and interviews do get into things that can be done to remove that toxicity from one's body. It seems to me that most people who thought thought the jab would be harmful, just didn't take it. And most people who did take it don't see a need to rid themselves of anything that was in there. But what do we know about the jabs effects and remediation now that maybe we didn't know when we last talked in 2021? The most extraordinary thing that I've heard recently is that people have been recovering with nicotine patches. Wow! So this was quite a surprise for me, I think anybody who wants to experiment your nicotine patches apparently aren't addictive gum apparently isn't addictive either so i'm told so I believe it's pretty safe I'd use the patches maybe

31:36 But some people are getting results in like 24, 48 hours just feeling better. And you don't need a high dose of nicotine and go for the low dose one. So that's one way then poisoning in general if we look at that to start with... If I was an emergency room doctor and somebody came to me they've been poisoned but didn't know what it was, I'd be using vitamin C, I'll be giving them vitamin C every five or six minutes over and over If they throw up or get diarrhea, well that would probably be a good thing to get rid of poisons anyway. I would be giving them charcoal loads of charcoal. I'd be giving them MSM sulfur good quality stuff and with that if you take sulfur as a supplement if you don't take enough You can feel worse how sulfur works is very interesting in chemical terms it's sulfates

32:37 So if you had copper, for instance. You were stuck in the body for some reason that's a bad example mercury got mercury stuck in the body If you mix it with sulfur you sulfate it turn into mercury Sulfate which is now water-soluble and you can pee it out so sulfur is incredible for allowing toxins to be made water-soluble and removed. Now, the thing is that if you've got mercury locked in a cell okay it's doing a lot of harm or maybe another poison would be better example some poisons are better locked up than out so they come out in the bloodstream you might feel worse

33:15 And if you take MSM sulfur and you feel worse, the next thing to do is to take more sulfur. If you're worse it just means that you are successful, you're at the first stage of getting it out now you need to take more to finish the process and get it out your body completely. So other things you could be using selenium I do a liquid selenium which is just mind-boggling we can talk about that separately Selenium is fantastic for poisoning glutathione, you could go and get a glutathione IV drip.

33:50 I have a product which I make called Glutathione Builder because glutathione is great but you can't take it for very long. You don't want to take it for more than months say, because otherwise the body will start not making its own glutathione so the liver makes glutathione if you're healthy and glutathione is sort of one of the ultimate detoxification agent that the body can make. It's also anti-inflammatory has some interesting properties but if you take I've got a blend of amino acids and minerals basically which are exactly what the liver needs to make glutathione. And that way, you know the body is just empowered to make more of it which is what you want so that can be very useful. You know there are number of things like this yes but those are relatively speaking inexpensive ways to do it.

34:42 Right on. I was going to ask you more about selenium, I believe i read in the secret health club that it was Dr Gerhard Schrazer who is the grand old man of selenium science what is the deal there? Is this related to addiction that selenium can help with like what are the major things that its useful for and whats the mechanism of action there? Huge swathes of the world, particularly North America are low on selenium. So you might be in a state where there just isn't enough selenium in the soil now Selenium goes with iodine they come as a pair you might say and anybody who's got a thyroid issue

35:30 needs to be investigating selenium and iodine because they may find if there are on levothyroxin in the drug, they may find that they don't need it. That actually they just need iodine and selenium some people actually do need an additional thyroid hormone and most people who don't want to take a drug get it from an animal so you can get animal-based desiccated thyroid gland, you have a dried thyroid generally very much and that is a complete thyroid blend rather than thyroxin which is just T4 which is only a quarter or less of what you really need. The animal version wins out it's tough on vegans obviously but selenium

36:16 detoxifies and it turns off antitoxins. So to explain what I mean, if you're taking a toxin every day let's say you really like alcohol let's say you really like methadone or heroin nobody likes methadone but you like heroin or maybe they put your on methadone and you can't come off each time we try it's just a nightmare and what the addict often believes thinks is that The lack of the heroin is what's making them feel so miserable, but actually it's slightly different to that. So the human body is so intelligent. If you put in a toxin on a daily basis then the body will start making antitoxins to try and help you deal with the daily poisoning. Somebody goes cold turkey they give up the booze they give up the alcohol or they give up the heroin they give up the methadone if they take

37:14 a very large dose of selenium at the same time, the selenium turns off the antitoxins. So suddenly, it's so much easier. I've had people who have been on drugs for like almost two decades come off easily but the dosage is everything and whenever I'm talking about dosages or amounts or whatever, do your own research because as Mark Twain said you know be careful what you read in a health book cause you might get killed by misprint. Don't take what I'm saying as the answer, research it and I can tell you where to do that. So with selenium the liquid one that I have one drop every two or three days should be adequate however if you're trying to come off a substance I've had people take up to 20 drops not 1 every 2-3 days but 20 drops in a day for 1,2 or maybe 3 days and that was all it took

38:13 to turn off the antitoxins and coming off easy, but to come off you also need other materials. Again we could talk about selenium I've heard people say their hair color has come back it's quite bizarre not saying that's normal my hair color hasn't gone back but when i was young they used to sell everywhere in supermarkets anti-dandruff shampoo and on the label he used to say say anti dandruff with helps stop flaky skin and stuff. I've done two-hour interviews with experts on selenium as to what it can do, it's amazing! Absolutely amazing and incredibly overlooked now if you want to eat your way to selenium Brazil nuts are apparently meant to be the food with the most selenium in them there are other selenium rich foods just off top my head I cant remember what they are. Right on brazil nuts

39:11 So I know there's a ton of stuff in the Secret Health Club archive and much of it might not be fresh in your mind, but looking at addiction stuff. I found an article titled John D Rockefeller Addiction Gold And The Alcoholics Anonymous Cover-Up It talks about Dr Leslie Enright finding the cure for alcoholism around the time of The Great Depression and it was apparently gold In a mineral salt form, it had a 94% success rate in curbing addiction and cravings as opposed to the Rockefeller funded AA model which had a 5-10% success rate. Well we know they want us to be consuming poison and unable to stop! Do you recall much about the role of homeopathic gold in this context?

40:03 I've read the article more than once, but i can't remember right now that much about it. But I remember being super impressed." Yeah! It was kind of complicated and over my head but it's just one of those things that... The part that was interesting to me is just how they funded Alcoholics Anonymous and the guy started at knowing that it wasn't really going to work and purposely suppressed this alternative alchemy and just gold in a salt form, these kind of things. It seems like many minerals and metals and elements can alchemically be presented in other forms and some have health benefits that you would never suspect."

40:49 Yes, I do a mushroom blend which has various monatomic elements. Monatomic gold and so on in it but the AA story is super interesting because Bill W., one of the founders of AA was a manic depressive bipolar. It might have been schizophrenia but I think it was bipolar anyway he went to see a psychiatrist in Canada called Dr. Abraham Hoffa and Dr. Hoffa was into vitamins and minerals, and he gave Bill W three grams of niacin, vitamin B3 every day, and within a few days, he was cured. He gave him other minerals and vitamins as well but Bill W apparently wanted to make niacin the 13th step of AA but they threw him out his own organization apparently wouldn't let it happen

41:45 Yeah, got to keep that effectiveness down. They want you to be a victim don't you? I'll never be cured and I'm always a hopeless alcoholic. That's my take on what AA is – You're never cured! Yeah, absolutely. And let me ask you about the mushroom blends because this is something that seems like a very underreported on aspect of the general ecosystem we hear about herbology and stuff but the Mushroom Kingdom is quite wild. The number of mushrooms out there and the wide range of effects

42:21 is pretty crazy when you really get into it. I've seen a few documentaries and Paul Stamets interviews that really opened my eyes to all this, but talk to us about your foray into the mushroom kingdom and what they can be used for? Well the primary mushroom where its legal in the world obviously psilocybin in micro doses is fantastic material particularly if we're getting people's emotions back together and get over traumas and so on. But the primary mushroom we're using is lion's mane, and we also use a type of St George's mushroom but the key for us I've been working with a mushroom expert and he's using frequencies and he can increase the potency and the strength and growth of these mushrooms tremendously just by playing them different frequencies that they like

43:18 and he's also found various substrates foods to give them they really like. And we found that mixing the mushrooms with monatomic elements has been immensely, well profound I suppose... I call the product Focus because when we were doing so speak the focus group, the word cropped up more than any other word people used to describe the mushroom blend was that it gave them focus You know, certain people say I've found my purpose in life. Really way more profound than I was expecting actually and you do is you just take it for one month only and you take

44:02 It's four days on, three days off. So four days you take it then the neurons rebuilds The thing about Lion's Mane for instance is that and this has been known forever for a very long time that you can rebuild your neurology literally it will rebuild brain pathways So, if somebody's got dementia or something well that might be one of the many things you could do and there are many things that need to be done. If somebody's brain is turning into Swiss cheese but yeah the mushrooms anybody who's unsure about where they are who they are what they're doing some people find it really mind-opening

44:42 It's so powerful that we've even got once a month, we hold meetings for people who buy it. So they can discuss the results because in the same way that people can have very positive breakthroughs for some people if their positive breakthrough is dealing with their unfortunate past well that might come up for them and then I have to deal with it and get out of the way one last time. Yeah yeah That's true The mushroom kingdom is just quite impressive. It has a full wide range of all sorts of stuff and then you throw in the psychedelic mushrooms and it's like, yeah this is a whole aspect of our natural world, a whole category that really is understudied and underutilized. And this is kind of a wild card and I know it is not really a focus of yours but if you search the term in The Secret Health Club you will get some results

45:38 And that's urine therapy. There are people in this audience that have been messaging me for years about doing a full urine therapy episode, and I'm not sure that it needs two hours but in the Secret Health Club you have an interview with David Murphy who says he drinks 10 ounces of his urine twice a day every day. He started with a 30-day urine fast and it healed his asthma, repaired his lungs. His hair grew back and his wrinkles faded." You also provide an e-book that's just a massive list of testimonials organized alphabetically by condition over 200 pages. A lot of the reports center around asthma cancer diabetes and eczema but it is very very wide ranging

46:26 It's a strange one, but have you ever engaged with this or do you know much about the science or logic behind it and why it does seem to heal? Well there is no doubt that it does. Dave is one of the fittest healthiest most strong-willed people that I know and very intelligent guy and for him it did all those things, totally fixed all his physical problems. He went back to the condition where he was like 40 when he did 28 days but he didn't just drink his own urine, he didn't drink anything else. He recycled all of his urine during that time, recycled it over and over

47:08 And they say that we make homeopathically in our urine a remedy and I've done other interviews about urine therapy where people have taken one drop of urine and then diluted it to a homoeopathic level, which is where you put one drop in a bottle fill it up with water shake it out tip it all out. And repeat the same thing 30 times and now you got a 30 times homeopathic remedies there's nothing there And some people say that's what they do. When I was in my 20s, I was working in a practice and this beautiful girl come in and said feel my face darling it is so soft. I felt her face and she says yes I rub urine into my face every day oh my god! But let's say you cut your leg and its bleeding and there are flies and you don't want to get infection but somebody pees on it and that ends infection

48:08 They say that in utero, in the womb, the baby is suspended in a sea of urine. So it's a healing substance and people think that the waste comes out in the urine but if you like good waste does but bad waste comes out the other hole Yeah, yeah. I find it interesting because clearly we have free easy and unlimited access to urine but we are told that it's toxic or at least a gross waste product of our body but this kind of flip happens a lot cheap helpful products like

48:48 Turpentine, maybe as an example are sold for non-consumption purposes with all sorts of warning labels about if you ingest any go right to a hospital. But it used to be just kind of a common cure all and it seems like urine is something similar. It's a little silly but it's weird I'm curious the mechanism. Maybe we just don't really know? After speaking with Dave, I tried it and as a hint to urine users. I found that fresh and warm, I didn't like it but if you left in the fridge cool down was easier. I believe that! I feel the same way about most liquids. Lukewarm is not really the best. It really isn't so yeah... If you're on a budget, it would be a really sensible thing to try

49:42 Yeah, I was just shocked at all the conditions. And you are right a lot of people do massage it in as well as consume it but it seems to help across the board with so many things and yeah just endless supply everybody's got it! If the idea just doesn't appeal to you then think about the homeopathic way of doing Right, or think about the condition that you want to treat. Does that appeal to you? Having that condition having cancer or eczema or diabetes like how appealing is that? You know maybe get over the squeamishness if that's what needs to happen Well I put an interview out or instead it probably goes out tomorrow something of this lady who was officially declared blind

50:28 and she decided that she wouldn't accept that. She'd been given a drug by the doctor, and basically the back of her retinas had exploded, so she instantly was blind And she got to a stage where she sees through like pinhole in one eye. Anyway, she got her sight back and now driving again and so the interview is how she did it? She said she used intention. She got books on anatomy physiology and studied all the blood vessels and everything that would be required to get her eyes back working. They're not perfect but she can drive which you know got licensed to drive again

51:09 And she explains, if you like the mental process of doing it. I mean clearly if I was advising somebody who is losing their eyesight there are loads of things that I would be advising and on The Secret Health Club in the eye section there's lots of information people who are most ahead I'd say in eyes all Russians. That's the technology that they have ever talked to about the Russian peptides? I don't think so! I have these on my site as well. So back in the 1980s, the Russian spies in America had found out the Americans had a blinding laser so they could equip a B-52 with several weapons and they could fly it high as you like and barely see it. And let's say that there was

52:00 an army on the battlefield with tanks. So all they had to do was blast the first frequency and their tanks wouldn't work, their tanks would stop, the frequency interrupted diesel engines then they fired the second frequency which made the soldiers shit their pants so now you've shit your pants you're in a tank that won't start end of war nobody dies! So that was never going to work because it was too cheap right? They want things that cost $10 million and need replacing, a sound weapon. They're never going to use the sound weapons." So then they discovered they had a blinding laser and they realized that there was a risk that the Americans would flash the laser and everybody with their eyes open would be blind so The Russians should have realized like the sound weapons that the Americans would never use such a weapon because it doesn't cost any money

52:55 Anyway, they took it seriously and they put over a hundred scientists trying to figure out how to repair retinas. And they found an answer which was to take peptides which are like small amino acids when you eat proteins it breaks down into peptide amino acids which we rebuild into muscle anyway they took peptides from the retina of cows they could put that into capsules and if people took the peptides for maybe one month, maybe two months then they could stop for several months. It would trigger stem cell activity or whatever it was in the eyes and retinas would rebuild so this was top secret Soviet

53:44 secrecy until the iron curtain came down and now these are made in Denmark, the ones that we have. And one can buy them and there are now 25 different peptides. There's one for the lungs, one for the heart, one for the eyes obviously, once most parts of body, 25 parts to body but the interesting thing is the original ones were not what you might expect The retina was the first, then the next two were the thymus and the pineal gland. Now one might ask oneself why? Why as opposed to heart or some other part of the body, why choose the pineal gland and why choose the thymus? Well, the thymus is fairly easy to answer because the thymus gland is the gland that really protects you keeps your immune system strong so controls that kind of area. So that was that

54:41 But the pineal gland, so what does a pineal gland do? Well they say it's the gland of connection. Cosmic connection if you like and because of modern diets and lack of magnesium in the diet fluoride, our pineal glands have really taken a battering. But pineal glands are also about sleep the production of melatonin and our ability to rest. Melatonin is anti-aging many exciting things about melatonin which is why they've made it illegal in everywhere in Europe and England except Italy where you can buy it so

55:17 There are so many things you can do to rectify eyesight which are off the beaten track. Frequency devices now, the Russians various nationalities in America Germany 40-50 years they've been using microcurrent devices with Tesla device I mentioned I use the eye attachment on my eye on my eyes. I've got no way of knowing if it's working or not though, but microcurrent is in use in many clinics around the world. I've got an interview that I did 12 years ago or so with American ophthalmologist Dr Jerry Tennant who was incredible he wrote a series of books called Healing Is Voltage

56:00 And as an ophthalmologist, he's probably fixed more eyesight than most people. Another interesting ophthalmologist down in Florida called Dr Edward Condrotte at KONDROT. They use microcurrent and other devices and supplementation and so on. So many people go to the doctor or the ophthalmologists because they don't know there is no answer they say you're going to go blind, nothing you can do. Whereas in many cases nothing could be further from the truth. Niacinamide is a non-flush version of niacin that can be fantastic for various eye issues there are I personally because i've got two cataracts which are forming mainly my type 1 diabetes I want to get rid of them so I've been using a material called CanC which is n-cetylcancine

56:55 And I'm using Amanda Vollmer's DMSO eye drops in 20% for 20% DMSO eye drops. Now, Amanda says that six months of using her eye drops the cataracts should dissolve because it is like MSM sulfur it dissolves scar tissue amongst many other things so I am quite looking forward to not having to worry about those Yes, yes. That's really fascinating the eye is a strange part of our body but it seems like in the alternative healing world there are way more solutions for sight than hearing which is odd because hearing I know is also complex but it seems a little less complicated than the eye so...I don't know I've yet to find anything It'd be interesting to try a Tesla device with the ear attachment

57:53 And as we're starting to pull this thing together, I just wanted to ask you broadly for people listening who probably don't have a specific condition that needs to be dealt with. Assuming we're getting enough vitamin D through sunlight, if we had to limit ourselves to just three supplements or vitamins to focus on every day or every week for optimizing our general health broadly what would you say those would be for most people? Number one's got to be magnesium. It just does everything. Magnesium is number one

58:32 If you're getting infections, then vitamin C might be number two. If you've got menopause issues, dry skin issues, thinking issues, iodine might be the next one. After that maybe fulvic minerals if we just wanted a general trace mineral thing very useful. Selenium again if you have addiction amino acids are very important If you're lacking muscle, somebody's old and they're too weak to eat. They haven't got any appetite. Amino acids will give them muscle power. Those would be the top ones. Right on! Well I hope after some of the health shows people listening might

59:21 feel motivated to like re jumpstart themselves and get on a regimen. But I loved it, man! Always good to talk to you anything else to mention that you're working on next or you want to let people know about before we call it in any other new products? You're bringing out to the shop Oh there are actually so many Odyssey is a place to see all my latest videos There's so much I can be talking about absolutely ridiculous. Telling one video put outs worth watching Three glasses of tap water, I put chlorine indicator drops like see if you've got enough chlorine in your swimming pool. Put it in the first glass of tap water, it goes green showing yes, you've got chlorine in the water. Second glass, I put two fingers in the glass for three seconds take them out but the chlorine indicator drops, it doesn't go green. Third class, I take a bit of raw potato

1:00:19 stir it round for about three seconds, take it out. Again the chlorine indicator drops It doesn't make the glass go green So what can we assume from that? I can assume that in three seconds all the chlorine in the glass of water got sucked into my finger and then third glass got sucked into the potato Yeah Wow! That is an interesting experiment Tested out for yourself a bottle of chlorine drops cost about eight dollars I was blown away. I thought, bloody hell! People are having a bath in chlorine or showering cooking washing their hands and the poison gas is going right in you know? I thought maybe one percent went in when you had a bath or two percent hadn't realized it appears to be all of it uh or a big amount...I mean that was crazy yeah there's really no better indicator of how

1:01:13 backwards our society is than our tap water, that we pump this water into everyone's homes and call it acceptable. It's so backwards and it's awful. It really is. So yeah, that's an interesting one. Yeah I mean if you have time let's do it again and we can sort of go through because we're just scratching the surface of how to fix stuff. Have I got two more minutes? Absolutely. So in my history, as I think you know is that I took an antibiotic 38 years ago and that antibiotic made me rheumatoid arthritic and gave me type 1 diabetes so for the last 38 years being type 1 diabetic, I've had to take insulin four or more times a day. So I went see a medical doctor in Germany

1:02:05 and he did an ultrasound on me. This is the first time I've ever had an ultrasound done in 38 years of being a diabetic, didn't cross my mind so he does it on my kidneys The first thing he says is your kidneys are perfect And I thought that's really weird 38 years a type 1 diabetic My kidney should be toast Anyway So then you look at my pancreas and says your pancreas is perfect I thought this is weird Then he said, you're not type 1 diabetic. I thought well, I've been taking insulin for 38 years and have problems if I don't, but you know, I forgot all the symptoms. He said you're not diabetic because your pancreas and kidneys are fine so I started thinking well okay what is going on? And this is where I've come to...I may not be right!

1:02:57 But what I assumed was that after taking the antibiotic, like one week later it would be gone from my body. I'm now beginning to think that it never left and it poisoned me and gave me the symptoms of type 1 diabetes 38 years ago and is still active just like a atom of mercury coming off from your tooth or a tuna fish is still active you know 25 000 years it might may perish but So I think now that the antibiotic is still poisoning me 38 years later. If that's correct, there may be billions of people who are ill with XYZ who haven't put two and two together but it's the antibiotic they took all those years ago that's still hitting them around their head." Right! That is an interesting perspective in a way to think about it

1:03:51 I don't disagree, but it makes me skeptical not to open a whole new can of worms here. But when people talk about remediation from the jab and the spike protein, it's like, I don't know. I think sometimes with some things you put them in your body and what's done is done. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's just now you are tainted. There are people who disagree with that. A lot of experts are saying ivermectin works with the jab as well as COVID so I don't know, but your point about the antibiotics being in your system still like...I agree with that. Long-term poisoning in some cases and through a shot something as advanced as the mRNA stuff? I do not know if there is a get out of jail free card for that! So I have been talking to lots of health experts and doctors about this. What would you do doctor? What would you do health expert

1:04:48 And I've had all sorts of suggestions from MMS to hydrogen peroxide, to acting as if I got Lyme disease and trying to go down that route like Dr. Klinghart might suggest. I've been looking at all sorts of routes. I've tried blood filtration... I'm looking at all sorts of ways to try and figure out how to get these toxins out now I've been studying toxin removal for a couple of decades or so and loads of the toxins that doctors don't know how to get out are get-outable. But I've done quite a few detoxes one way or the other over the years, obviously nothing I've done has worked on diabetes so far but it's an interesting area of research and you know I'm delving right into it see how can you get this stuff out? Actually, I believe that everything is possible

1:05:46 I'm much happier having that belief. Yes, I agree with you on a base level we should think that way but man you are a true wounded healer archetype and i appreciate your vast knowledge and just impressive wide range of information that you're able to give out and speak on Of course the Secret Health Club is a major factor in the ways people can follow up with this as well as your store. Give them the links they should have before I cut you loose. Yeah, so secrethealthclub.com and clivedecal.com and i'm sure my name will be spelled there There's only one of me! I seem to be unique there is no other Clive DeCal in the world

1:06:37 Hey, I'm with you on that. But of course I made up my own name and then legally changed it so that would be why but hey man, I appreciate your time and your mission is just incredible the stuff that has been suppressed and somewhat simple solutions can do wonders if we just get back to basics and get the toxins out. So I appreciate you, man! Thank you, I appreciate you as well. Let me just...I forgot to say if somebody wants to write in and ask about the Tesla devices they can write to info at secrethealthclub.com or indeed tesla at secret health club dot com both should get through

1:07:25 Love it. Yes, that's a little bit more under the radar and requires a personal message of some kind. You're not going to get it on Amazon is what I'm saying? No. Right on well thank you again! You are one of the greats and I wish health and happiness take care out there. Thanks so much bye-bye Alright, alright. There we go people! It has been a little while since we re-examined the health and wellness terrain Clive of course is always great because I know he's gonna be exploring something new every time I talk to him Thankfully I can also say this was the last of my hotel recordings So from here on out I think everything should sound A lot closer to how you're used to it sounding I still got a little work to do on this room here

1:08:21 And of course I can't do as much to control my guests environment as i sometimes want too. I told Clive the birds were loud, he said the window was closed what are you gonna do? We removed as much noise in post as we could! But yeah things are starting to normalize around here and this opportunity came at a good time because I was in a difficult situation and Clive happened to get in touch and say hey man I've got a lot of new stuff what do ya think And I jumped at it because one of those new things was these Tesla healing devices. And if you're a Plus member, then you know that Jason Quitt had just mentioned these devices or things like them in the second hour of our interview so i thought let's just roll with the universe someone or something maybe the ghost of tesla himself is trying to get the message out but they do seem like pretty powerful devices

1:09:17 Clive's video of healing 32 people I think it was in rapid succession is pretty damn impressive. The people in it seem just as shocked and surprised as anyone that their various ailments suddenly aren't bothering them, and I'll be curious to see if he really does send one out for me to try! I'm certainly gonna give it a shot. I haven't really gone too deep on trying to repair the healing damage except for a Power of Eight intention session and a shamanic session with Gordon Both were great experiences, but I'm still deaf in my right ear. Surprising nobody! But one of these devices sounds like it could be one of my better options... Let's see what happens Other than that people have always been asking me to cover urine therapy more and it's pretty self-explanatory Some folks out there drink their own urine and report high level healing and general health effects

1:10:15 It's silly, it's pretty wild if true but there is not much more to it. I don't think that I can stretch that single topic into a whole two hour interview Well...I mean..I did it with circumcision so maybe I can? But we touched on it today and that may be the best thing I could do for awhile You know what you need to know if you want to look more into it But I really appreciate Clive's passion and knowledge base. If you like the deep dives into holistic biohacking and alternative health info, his secret health club is a ton of information an ever growing archive of articles interviews Q&A's and all that good stuff check it out look into it but I hope you had a good time! I went in pretty light on material today and leaned on Clive to do the heavy lifting but he's a pro so I knew it would turn out alright

1:11:09 In the second hour, we added a lot to the stack. We talked about methylene blue, Clive's sleep tips and bad sleep remedies actually the magnesium has been helping me I unpacked it started taking them by the fistful and I really have not had a restless leg issue since I talked about it on this episode We also discussed the degrading quantity of vitamins if you're not eating right off the plant. Aerotoxicity, chlorine dioxide... I asked Clive what has been the most dangerous cure to talk about publicly? We got an update on David Noakes and GC Math for the OGs

1:11:53 We got into the power of parasite cleanses, breakthrough vitamin D advice for toddlers and raw milk in Florida. If you're still just a free listener I don't know what more i can do we keep the show ad-free. I try to keep the quality and density high in these shows and the overall pitch to sign up is a lot shorter than almost any other interruptions or donation segments out there But it's still a job for me and you sign up for Plus because you want to hear The Second Hour more than you want to help me or anything like that. It kicks off with the 7-day free trial, download the shows to listen offline without any restrictions, keep your apps, get a slew of bonuses on the bonuses page... Get in there! Before I clear out, gotta let ya know what THC fans are doing with their Meetup calendar

1:12:48 As you know, it's open to anybody. Hop on in there make an account make an event near you I'll announce it and the people will come but on deck we have the Sundowner Bar & Grill event in Sedona Arizona High Springs Brewing Company in high springs Florida both on June 3rd a Scotland UK meetup at The Keras on June 10th and also June 10, a Golden Colorado meetup. And then June 17th, a Stanford Connecticut one and June 20th Nashville Tennessee and June 21st Lancaster New Hampshire. And that one is actually a meetup in the middle of the Pork Fest event which I believe is a Libertarian Party gathering kind of thing but that's it!

1:13:41 It's looking a little light for June, but get in there. Make an event find the people THC is a cool thing to have in common with those around you and it's just something to do But I got one more show coming at ya before the end of May so stay awake be ready And thanks for listening! I've done my part your move big pharma bastards true health hiders and soldiers in the sickness system You're fuckin' I eat a bunch of corporate junk that makes you fat. Industry wrong. Add an addiction to the digital technology, then I try to quit. Be disciplined and run on the big conspiracy and every one