Clive de Carle | Big Pharma, Natural Cures, & The Sickness Conspiracy

00:05 Puppet masters almost surely have a dick that's clearly maybe something heavy And until you've thoroughly tested every last course just to think you know the less you really do That's true, Dr. Seuss Where would we be without THC? Cause we know they're lying to us Just don't know them without THC The higher side chat show of wooden company

00:44 All right, Hireside Chatters. We know the shadowy elite have many campaigns stacked against the people from mind-controlling media to chemical laden skies and it's hard to find a slice of the pie that hasn't been weaponized and of course food medicine both sit near at the top of that list Yes, it seems like the conspiracy is in full swing as we have seen the puppet masters payments slowly compromise the education of doctors discard and discredit natural cures for petrochemicals. And they've overtaken the food industry to weaken the natural food supply and again replace the good stuff with artificial and chemical based alternatives Well that is the theme of today people! Today's guest has been working hard to beat back The Beast and restore the natural knowledge we've lost over the last few decades

01:27 His name is Clive DeCarle, a natural health practitioner who cured his so-called incurable disease 30 years ago and as result took his life in a new direction where he completely changed his lifestyle invested in a fully off grid organic farm in Spain and pioneered the use of fully sustainable ancient and modern farming methods to get back to the good stuff. A commendable change in dedication and of course he's been writing, researching and lecturing on the lost art of healthy living ever since. A true thorn in the side of petrochemical pushers and a re-educator for people Clive my man welcome to The Higher Side

02:03 Thank you so much great that's quite an intro thank. Hey well thanks for being here man i mean i'm so glad that you are this is a subject that always gets a big response from the audience because unlike a lot of conspiratorial topics, this is something we actually can do something about with a little commitment but many of us still lack that fundamental education which makes the work you do quite crucial Well, hopefully tonight I can explain what the real keys to health are because if people realized how simple it was they wouldn't be so ill. It's just crazy how simple it is. What happened to me 30 years ago? I'm working in London everything's great fit healthy and I'm embarrassed cause at 32 or something I've got some spots on my face. I'm embarrassed about

02:54 I went to a doctor. Big mistake! The doctor should have said, stop eating those Mars bars you know? Stop eating that crap food and be sensible but instead the doctor said take these antibiotics So I take the antibiotics, my health falls apart. I'm allergic to the antibiotics clearly, I become type one diabetic, I've become so arthritic that I can't work anymore then I can't drive the car anymore and one day I wake up and I haven't got the strength to get dressed. I can't put my socks on it's just insane! So they put me in hospital for weeks...so they don't know what's wrong with me and after weeks in hospital

03:36 They say it's hopeless, you're gonna have a short unpleasant life we can give you drugs and we can operate. But almost on that same day I'd worked out actually i was low on magnesium, i was low in a few vitamins and minerals and got my wife to wheel me out of the wheelchair, started taking vitamins and minerals and change my diet and all the arthritis went away! I went from looking like i was 80 years old to fully back and then about three year later my dad's best friend got cancer for the second time and was told he was gonna die. He copied what I did, but he did it more seriously than i did. He started taking mega high doses of vitamin C every day 35 grams this is 27 years ago something like that and he had about 12 weeks to live he lived another 25 years when you did diet wasn't a cancer

04:28 So I saw firsthand a couple of pretty obvious things that actually hang on to the doctors, they should know what they're doing. And you'd think the doctors knew about health. You'd think that doctors were taught cures and causes of disease. You'd think they would talk minerals and vitamins. You'd think there'll be talked about essential fats and amino acids and carbohydrates and proteins and so on in England a doctor in their five years training do half the day on all those subjects are they on nutrition minerals vitamins and i believe in america it's about saying wow because what matters is drugs.

05:08 When a doctor picks up their prescription pad to write, what they're really saying at that point is look I'm really sorry about this but i haven't got a clue how to fix you. I don't know the cause of your problem and i dont know how to cure you so if it's alright with you im just gonna drug you for the rest of your life. Man yeah it's such a wild story and your situation definitely seems like more the rule than the exception you know i've heard a lot of people talking about, situations that are very similar yet you go into the doctor with a small problem to come out with a treatment that gives you a bigger problem. It just no way to live in your website

05:47 It highlights a great quote of yours where you say, we go to a doctor looking for wellness while the doctor is only looking for illness. There are only three reasons why we lose our health toxicity physical damage or nutrient deficiency there is no fourth reason your body is not low on pharmaceutical drugs and I do like that especially the last line there but in such a complex world can everything really boil down to just these three causes? Well i think so, let's look at a few examples of you say oh but what about stress? Well ok. Stress is the big killer but if you've got enough magnesium for instance which magnesium is the mineral that's anti-stress

06:30 You've got enough magnesium, that stressful event might happen but you can cope with it. It's like the difference between a problem and challenge. If we're feeling strong it's a challenge if we're feeling weak its a problem so yes I do think it is like that everybody is toxically poisoned. I have tested hundreds of people this year with new piece of French mineral and heavy metal analysis equipment uses light So everybody is toxically poisoned with pretty much everything, without exception. Everybody to a hugely disturbing level. Everybody I've tested has been low on magnesium not like 90% of people 100% of people everybody's low on magnesium so why would that be? Well one of the reasons is we're all so stressed and stress

07:15 Use is magnesium so magnesium is the number one mineral and explain magnesium to it's important to understand if you're low on magnesium that means that your sales car relax calcium allows your muscles to contract. And magnesium is the thing that allows him to relax again and because it's on a cellular level this means you're thinking relaxes as well with magnesium so the symptoms of magnesium deficiency can include worried panic attacks anxiety. Cramps tick the muscle cramp so people have cramps in the back of their legs or their feet to wake up having a cramp. Menstrual cramps heart attacks are crap if you got it, cramping your leg that's warning me my good muscle cramp in your heart muscle which we call hearts.

08:08 other symptoms of magnesium deficiency would be things like preeclampsia in women who can't give birth, they're all cramped up. What do they do? Well they take that woman to the emergency ward and they inject them IV with magnesium sulfate what do the emergency room doctors do if somebody's having a heart attack? They inject them with magnesium What do they do if they're having a stroke? Same thing, inject them with magnesium because it allows immediate relaxation of everything. So could it be that the stroke happened maybe because they were low in magnesium in the first place? Could the heart attack have happened because there are low on magnesium and so on? Everybody's low on magnesium I've tested so far everybody

08:52 Yeah that is so interesting and I have heard you talk about magnesium before in that regard, that it is injected into heart attack victims and they teach the powers of magnesium to emergency room doctors but they leave that out for general practitioners because I guess its just too powerful. But it wouldn't be good for business where all the customers come from? You gotta remember a patient cured as customer lost Right. Chinese medical doctors in the old days, the family would employ the doctor to look after the family and they would pay that the doctor every month but then if somebody got ill in the family they wouldn't pay the doctor until granny was better now there's an incentive here that the job was to keep the family well but in England I suggest in America doctors are paid

09:43 Buy how many people they have right well said. Turn it down is the same dentist dentist to paid to do work on your teeth should be paid, make sure they never do work that's true how many unnecessary operations and dental procedures are carried out on a daily basis cuz i got down payments on their bmw Man yeah that's those questions i mean this a capitalistic world you think that that green incentive would creep into most businesses is just your hope it doesn't hit one that so crucial life but here we are and on the subject of kind of simplicity and. The nutrients that you use to hear you talk about the miraculous power of vitamin c n,

10:32 It's just so crazy. It's hard to believe that it could be so powerful, but tell people about some of the stuff that is going on with vitamin C and the work that has been done and how it shows how effective it really is? Well way back in the 60s onwards they did a lot of experiments to show that vitamin c would effectively overcome viruses There's a very famous chap, Linus Pauling. He was the only person to win the Nobel Prize as an individual twice and when he retired age 83 or something, he went to studying vitamin C and he became very famous for saying look you can overcome viruses cold flu smallpox whatever you like with vitamin C but it has to be in high doses

11:22 many doctors at this point were proving it by curing people however, things changed. Vitamin c of them isn't the same as vitamin c now most of the vitamins in the world now is made in a pharmaceutical facility in china out of genetically modified corn which is very different source to more natural fashion ways for making vitamin c So, in the old days everybody could get on well with vitamin C. But these days so many people say oh it doesn't agree with my stomach I can't get on with vitamin C that's because they're taking a genetically modified version not a more natural version. The type of vitamin C you are looking for is mixed ascorbates not ascorbic acid

12:10 but mixed ascorbates, that's the sort of more alkaline version and not made from genetically modified corn. And there are a few companies, not many, few companies who do do that very high quality and it tastes nice as opposed to tasting quite sharp but there is an art taking vitamin C if you take too much you get diarrhea same with magnesium take too much you get loose stool and it's not obviously a terribly great thing. So one has to take little and often, and there are many great videos out there teaching you how my favorite which I try to show people is only four minutes long, and it's called reverse pneumonia in three hours. And it explains how this Dr Andrew Saul had pneumonia and he took two grams of

13:00 of vitamin C every six minutes. Within three hours his temperature had come down to normal and his pneumonia stopped Wow you don't explain how they gave twenty grams of vitamin c to a twenty pound baby in the day, who had some health problems and that fix the baby so i am not giving help by sia i'm just being the journalist telling people where they can reach none of what i'm saying is because it's just report. And that's what I like about the work that i have seen you do, the presentations I've seen you give is You do pull a lot of information and studies from What we think of as fairly mainstream sources It's just that only so often Do those studies kind of creep through Like they put them out but it doesn't really influence The mainstream system So like you can get good information if you really dig and chisel it out of there

14:00 But, you know they just don't implement it all that often. But I do like those sources because that's the kind of stuff you can take to a friend who works in the industry or a really skeptical person and say well look if you trust these sources then look at what this study says Well there's masses of proof, you know they've been great doctors out there. Great doctors doing fantastic work for decades but unfortunately the only ones really who are able to do that are the ones who have some sort of funding and don't get crushed but these days a lot of doctors are in hiding You know I interviewed quite a few medical doctors who had to leave America now living in Panama or

14:38 Ecuador or wherever it is because of being persecuted by the medical system. It's who rules in america well certainly the pharmaceutical industry is pretty near the top I would say. Yeah if you don't have a corporate sponsor for your studies and your studies aren't confirming what your corporate sponsor wants to hear then you really can work in the industry at all Do you know the definition of diagnosis, the word diagnosis? No maybe not particularly. My definition is this from the greek Gnosis means to know agnosis means not to know diagnoses is two people not knowing. That's interesting yeah the doctor and patient yes neither know what the hell they are doing

15:28 So, I also wanted to ask you about bread and wheat. I've wanted to talk about this for awhile now because as I understand it the reason modern bread is causing so many problems is because of a major change in the way that was processed. Is that right? What was your i'm sixty three when i was young nobody that i ever met how to problem with bread or wheat or anything you would gluten wasn't in the consciousness and then as i understand it nineteen eighty six i think may have been the year that monsanto started putting glyphosate roundup on weeds.

16:04 And they started damaging people's guts causing a leaky gut permeability of the lining so that little parts protein to get through the lining and cause problems we know is gluten intolerance. And i think there's pretty much smoking gun with monsanto and the problems people having bread it doesn't mean that if people have got currently gluten intolerance can handle wheat, doesn't mean it's forever. But I interviewed a woman now actually interestingly from America now currently in hiding in Europe, I believe called Kerry Rivera she wrote the book reversing the symptoms known as autism and her son go to 10 years old before she realized what she had to do and she took us on off

16:54 not only wheat, but she took her son off all grains and all dairy. Right? Because she felt that grains and dairy were the culprit for her son So that left one food that her son would eat which was french fries So no dairy, no grains. French fries were the only thing the son would eat they fed the son organic french fries for every meal and every snack and after three days on nothing but french fries her ten year old son speaks words for the first time reversing autism. That is amazing i have heard you talk about that was something i was gonna ask you about

17:36 People reversing autism and asperger's because that seems so over the top i mean to some degree, i guess i just maybe i'm very cynical but i feel like when i look at some certain conditions it just seems like once you're broken your broken but. I guess thats not true there is a lot of cases this right she's not the only isolated case So what I'd like to do is play you a 20-second clip from a 10 year old girl. Have her listen to this and see what you make of this. Hi Shea! How old are you today? Ten years old And can you tell us what it felt like to have autism and Asperger's syndrome? I got tummy aches alot, sick alot, social difficulties

18:24 I was in trouble at school, I was obsessed over cameras, flashing lights, water, light bulbs toilets and computers. I got mad a lot, angry easily and I stimmed on a lot of things. And how do you feel today? Recovered! Happy! I stopped stimming and now I'm not obsessed anymore. So did you feel like you've recovered? Yes Yeah lots and lots of that sort of story because it's happened to so many people now so many people have recovered. And it's the same for alzheimer's at the other end of things there are lots of people who will now say what was horrible when i had alzheimer's, things were dreadful but now got my brain back

19:11 Wow, that's amazing to hear. And I guess the two main things we've talked about so far are magnesium and vitamin C and we know the food supply is compromised but are there ways to get this through food if we're getting it from organic sources? What are the best ways to get it do we need a supplement or can we do without? Well it's very difficult to do without supplementing, for nine years you mentioned at the beginning of the program I ran an organic farm and i chose land that had never had chemicals on it ever. So it was fine everything i know when i lived on the phone but most organic food these days will often be grown on land a few years ago

19:55 What is used for chemical farming so if chemicals are put on the land you can imagine that insects and worms and everything is just gonna die. And then with fields getting ever bigger how do the minerals get back in the soil let me say they grow wheat apples the mineral out of the soil, In the old days, they used to burn the stubble from the wheat back into the ground. So they pull the minerals out and put some of them back but these days they don't do that when there were small fields, the trees would mine the minerals from hundreds of feet down bring it up and then fall, the leaves would drop down and remineralize the soil but now with the giant fields, there's no remineralization, they're just using chemicals instead

20:45 killing everything and meaning that year by year by year there are less minerals every season. And so everybody's getting ill through lack of minerals it almost everybody because the stresses of modern life and the fact that stuff happening this just ridiculous let me give you example, everybody i tested this year was ultra high on aluminum Now why would everybody be out on aluminum weather couple of obvious ones which people know like underarm deodorants most of them have a new minimum i'm not giving dementia and alzheimer's to people then there are lots of other contacts with aluminium

21:25 aluminum. I was sitting at my computer wondering where am i getting aluminum from realizing? I've got an apple computer and it's made of aluminum, and I'm rubbing my fingers on it all day but that's not the big one the big one is water for water people put aluminum as as aluminum sulfate that's the water soluble version into the water supply to make it crystal clear and they're giving dementia to everybody in the water wow My god that is just so sad to me, to think you only get one life and have it compromised by the water that you pay for in your own house or a nursing home. But yeah water is such an overlooked but essential factor we don't even know the full power of water but of course it makes up most our bodies, it's so crucial to life

22:12 And I always sort of laugh when people write off fluoride in the water supply like it isn't a huge issue. I don't get how the official story even holds water, no pun intended that it's for teeth! Because there's really nowhere else that the government seems to care about the public good so much as to go this extra mile. And anyone should know, dosage is important with chemicals isn't it? You don't just dump it in water that people use at so many different rates their drinking water all their showers dishwasher you know zero dosage control Of course, they could just put some non-controversial vitamins and minerals in the water too if it's all just about health. Why just the teeth? Why not treat that whole system or better yet just make sure its clean They'll put fluoride for your teeth but they can't be bothered to make sure its healthy to drink overall It doesn't really make any sense I read the original report why we should all have fluoride I read it and it is so flawed You read the original report and it was laughable that they believed this

23:16 But there are a couple of interesting things about fluoride i'd like to just mention sure. There are four halogens yet there's three bad ones which is chlorine bromine and fluoride than this one good one which is iodine now everybody pretty much as long as i'm ninety five percent population in the us on the line The others the bad ones like fluoride or a smaller atomic song is not done i don't know your hormones should be made with iodine, yes i read everything all the hormones have a base but if you're getting chlorine in the water or bro meaning flower improve red. What's your idea to paste all your water then

24:01 Those are all small russian so they get in i don't accept those. In place of the other guy now your hormones are being made a floor right and why is, Prozac so popular as an antidepressant it's because it is made of fluoride and its not that your problems go away but because fluoride, bromine and chlorine make you apathetic. You just don't care anymore. Problems haven't gone away but you just don't care like you used to cause your flurried out. Your on fluoride people just don't care as much. The government can do rubbish things and there's nothing we can do about anyway type attitude

24:41 Because we're bathing in chlorine, showering in chlorine that means that we are all low on iodine. Now what does that really mean? Let's say a woman is pregnant and she's low on iodine, that baby will be born with a low IQ right now if the woman is clinically low on iodine, the doctors have a term for it, that baby will be born a cretin You know mentally defective that's what happens if you're very low on iodine so the symptoms of low iodine some people might recognize these they are thyroid problems, temperature out of control like cold hands and feet or wild temperature controls like hot flushes dry skin sometimes can be related to it.

25:28 Most people have got a thyroid issue and the doctors would put you on levothyroxine, which is rubbish. A hundred years ago if you went to a doctor and the doctor didn't know what was wrong with you most doctors at that point gave you something called Lugol's iodine which is potassium iodide and iodine mixed together and it used to be so pretty much cure all the things out you can give some iodine they'll be fine And if somebody had a thyroid problem, if the iodine alone didn't work what they'd do is they give you a little bit of dried thyroid from an animal. From a cow or pig, a little bit of desiccated thyroid gland and that's desiccated thyroid from an animal it very similar to human thyroid but if they give you levothyroxin which doctors do because its patented used to be patented and make money from it

26:24 Does it work nearly as well because it's a natural products gonna work much better than the synthetic answers a massive con going on in the goat about having great. I have not but i am a little grossed out by the visual so when that settlers were moving westwards they got so far in land there was no longer any iodine in the air items comes from sea so you go to find land is no idea and so people's next best their thyroids, which means that thyroid gland swelled up. Choose sides trying to grab what little are dying them might be in the air

26:59 So the government stepped in and said, right we're going to insist that you have iodized salt. You know salt with iodine in and that iodine has to be put in the bread and that fixed it and then something like 1976 they repealed that law creating the current thyroid epidemic for the second time in American history. I love those little chapters in forgotten history that made a huge difference for the people at the time, and that does beg the question because lot of these problems the nutrient deficient food or the nasty pharmaceuticals these issues are less than 100 years old in most cases

27:40 It's curious because were we living that much longer or healthier lives before that time? The conventional history is that obviously things have gotten better, but is the truth a little more complex than that I guess. I live in a little tiny village in Wiltshire in England and walking around the local graveyard for instance you notice either people died as a baby or very young But if they survive that, they often live to be 85-90. And then women died in childbirth a lot. So what the governments tend to do is they take those statistics where quite a lot of babies used to die and quite a lot of mothers died in childbirth so we'll put those numbers with the fact that rest of them lived to 85 and tell everybody old people only used to live till 40 or 45. Well statistically that may be true but in reality you either made it or didn't.

28:36 Yeah, that's interesting. Numbers can definitely be twisted data can definitely be shaded a certain color if you want it to be So modern diseases, it wasn't that long ago when Professor Alzheimer first saw this weird new brain wasting disease and he was so rare called after himself you know out of his disease that wasn't that long ago but it coincided pretty much with the introduction all widespread use of modern oils by that I mean margarine. And I mean the type of oils get in a supermarket in a bottle So, our ancestors would have told you that fat was good.

29:20 the fat of the land, you know the cream of the crop. The cream by definition meant the best but when the low-fat revolution started happening and they lied and they said fat is bad for you eat margarine or whatever it is stop eating fatty meat stop eating fatty fish yeah it'll kill you that was a lie and they created dementia and Alzheimer's along with the water people Why do you think your fat so what is the human brain made from well primarily as everybody knows it's primarily water yes if you dehydrated you may have thinking issues but let me take the water out. Can you not that wobbly bit of rain was that made off his latest app people don't realize that the primary constituent

30:06 The fat in the brain is cholesterol. So if anybody's eating a low-fat diet or following the idea that cholesterol is bad for you, well they're losing their brain. becoming Swiss cheese. But it's just a curious thing. I hear a lot of people talking about the ketogenic diet now, which is of course high healthy fats, moderate protein fruits and vegetables but just low sugar low carbohydrates i guess Is that kind of what you would consider to be the ideal diet? I guess everyone's different but is that generally what you think is the best advice at this point

30:58 Well, as you say everyone is different and boy are they different. So I hesitate ever to suggest that this one is the way forward if somebody had cancer for example then they should certainly research ketogenic diet because that may be the best thing for them you know what's the only food but a cancer cell eats for breakfast? Well it's glucose so as carbohydrates turn into glucose ketogenic diet, the idea is that there are zero carbohydrates. Well you know if cancer can't eat it can't grow is the theory behind it so the ketogenic diet is a very very interesting one If I wasn't trying to overcome some sort of specific disease though I wouldn't want to do a ketogenic diet all time in the same way as that they're

31:46 There are a lot of arguments around the acid-alkali type diets. You know, there are people who say you've got to be alkaline all the time and be really strict about it but so many people what happens is that somebody gets cured because they go raw or somebody gets cured because they do some fancy diet and so on then they get carried away thinking everybody should do that! And thats where people get evangelical and its a bit difficult I agree with you that is kind of the gray area and now it's tough but so many different people in so many different factors to find a blanket solution is really just probably not realistic.

32:27 You know you mentioned babies a couple times we just did it show that focused around the problems with the hospital birth protocols and almost every step of the process causes increase damage to the mother or baby weather is the drugs, the disruption of bonding vaccine circumcision c-sections i mean there's a lot. And I know you also dedicate a large section of your website to these very issues. One that i woke up to, that I hoped you could elaborate on is the cutting of the umbilical cord it seems like the placenta is a sack of vital supercharged nutrients that baby comes into the world with naturally and we cut that connection so fast it really doesn't get the chance to do its thing... Is that right?

33:10 Well, that's absolutely right. I mean no animal is going to clamp a cord it's just outrageous and the practice actually apparently began so that the hospitals were cleaner there was some blood issue but it was messy or something so anyway the baby is born in two parts we're too big to be born totally as one so we come out of two parts there's the baby and its packed lunch and then the packed lunch there is maybe a third of its immune system potential. So normally, what would happen is the baby would be born put on the mother's tummy along with the placenta and over the next few minutes, the placenta which will be sort of pulsing would be delivering its contents slowly into the baby and once that process had completed then the umbilical cord will begin to shrivel up and eventually on it's own cord it will just drop off

34:06 What's happening is that the umbilical cords being clamped, the cord is being cut and the contents of the cord in the center are being sold for big money to various interests. The stem cell people obviously want them because cord stem cells are highly valuable because let's say somebody wanted stem cell therapy and they're young. Well, they have their own stem cells taken out and those stem cells can be cultured grown and then you could inject them back into yourself and there are very real benefits of doing this physically. You can fix yourself by injecting stem cells into the part of your body that needs fixing but if you're old

34:54 Then you can't do that anymore your stem cells are strong enough to reproduce like that so what people doing and i look at it nicely they don't know what they're doing they are stealing the life force from babies. those stem cells should be going to the baby not into some ritual person who wants to live longer at the expense of a baby's health this is the reality what's happening there's more and more value to stem cells in the center on the cosmetics industry got a lot to answer for you put in placenta cream for instance onto google your final thoughts or products full of baby.

35:35 Wow i mean that is, I love the term packed lunch to describe that but what a welcoming you know your first possession that you're born into the world with this just ripped away from you and sold at the highest bidder it's like yeah get ready for that pattern to repeat for the rest of your miserable existence. It's dark. I'm afraid its as dark as hospital birth system really is about as darks as it gets Yeah it seems to be that way and i've also heard you talk about even things like the language of the doctor and how that gets into hypnosis of course we had guests talk about just language in general, add the idea of spelling that even from the beginning it was magic but. That comes into play in the hospital lot too with things like contractions verse expansions right

36:22 Well exactly right, I mean you know if a patient believes what the doctor says that belief could easily kill them. I'm here is this something says got six weeks to live and you believe it's at a core level which are you time your watch on it. The negative hypnosis that doctors use really is quite appalling. Before I did what i do now, I trained as a hypnotist because I found that what one could achieve with the power of the mind and my way of doing hypnosis was always self-hypnosis in that I teach other people how to do it themselves primarily but I quickly found even though I could have tremendous results changing people using their own mind

37:06 that if they were low on magnesium, well you know they need magnesium. No amount of hypnotism was really going to get them full of magnesium so I had to go back school so speaking and learn about the minerals and vitamins but at the end of day i think it's so simple when I see a client i start first of all with the four elements are you breathing good air are you using really nice wonderful fresh clean water are you eating one of those nice, fresh food are you getting enough sunshine because there's four crucial move on from that say are you going to make me seem like a lot and just go through the basic minerals because

37:47 The basic minerals, if you're low on one then all sorts of stuff can go wrong. Magnesium controls 2,000 enzyme systems in your body. It's the people with the highest magnesium have massively less cancer. People with the highest vitamin C, massively less cancer vitamin d in europe they don't want to try people with the highest vitamin d twenty which cancer it is your office seventy percent less cancer just if you got enough sunshine. In england i went into the doctor's office few years ago actually picked up this leaflets which said, flu season is coming ask the doctor for a vaccine something like that

38:31 i thought it was a new season is coming so what are the doctors think is going on but as he gets colder. The flu germs of coming out of their little places and biting people on the bottom of me, you know what are they saying there's no flu season but that is a lack of sunshine season will get colds and winters in winter great point vitamin d Yeah, primarily. I mean if you've got enough vitamin D zinc and vitamin C you're pretty much cold proof very difficult i used to work with this medical doctor and he explained this to me about the vitamin d thing maybe nine or ten years ago and i went to my local doctors said look i think im low on vitamin d would you test me so i never done that before so really no we just don't do that but i can so it's just me for vitamin d and i got results

39:23 It's so quick, three weeks later you'll hear your results and the doctor said you're incredibly low on vitamin D. I said how did you know? And he said well it was December everybody is going to be critically low on vitamin d in every couple of years just everybody. So what happens if you are low on vitamin Well, what happens if you're low on sunshine? Well you're not as happy. People are happy in the sun and unhappy out of the sun so it's got a whole depression thing going to it by vitamin D It's got the cancer thing going through its got a heart thing going through We are meant to be outside most of the time And of course everybody is not So we all, most of us anyway Are low on Vitamin D

40:04 Yeah, makes perfect sense. And how much does vitamin D cost? Let's say you bought a year supply I would suggest you went on to eBay now and get it for $10 for whole year. Wow. You can get fancy versions which are made from lichen from Iceland, but most of it is actually made from chicken feathers which there are lots of things about vitamin D and its manufacture that aren't great the cheap stuff but nevertheless it works right? It works better than nothing and cost almost zero. The incredible thing about most these products iodine magnesium so cheap very little money very little money

40:46 Well at least that's hopeful to people who probably don't have a lot of money but want to actually take control of their health. I had one other question for you about babies, which was that on your website you talk about The fact that your baby is born with five sounds that indicate its needs if you learn those five sounds you can understand what your baby is saying on day one and I think that's kind of interesting. It's just not really something that i've heard before can elaborate on a little bit give us a couple other the key sound or something that maybe help people get a little insight into what these babies might be saying

41:24 This is so weird isn't it that who would have thought the babies have five sounds of a mate when they're born they got one which says i'm hungry, what would you say some tired what was this i've got wind trapped once saying having a poo and so on. And is this australian woman who was born as a musical genius. When she was three, she could play the piano without reading them. She'd just hear it once and repeat that sort of thing – a musical genius! So when her daughter was born, she heard these sounds and put two and two together. And what happens is let's say the baby maybe want something they try to tell you something says it's time to use this tired so it makes the tired sound which is a bit like anyway i'll tell you where you watch and learn on the internet and if you don't respond.

42:12 That, heh gets a bit more frantic. Heh! And then it goes, bleh and starts crying. Heh! You know? Yeah. And so she noticed these five sounds and her name is Priscilla Dunstan. You can look her up on YouTube. She was interviewed actually by Oprah, Priscilla Dunstan and Oprah. It's very good that particular program you can hear all the sounds lots of babies making the sounds It takes a little bit of learning to master it but it's not that difficult and she puts on courses to do it. So, turns out that let say your mom my mom had ads when we were born they didn't know what the hell we were saying here we was saying feed me come on get with it and made understand a word of this answer now children being understood from their very first moment

43:00 And of course they are communicating with their parents and therefore they don't speak earlier age them or intelligent there cry so much cuz there's no need we were crying because nobody talks baby language to our parents. Yeah that is weird but it is so interesting why wouldn't there be some kind insight to get from baby noises i mean we come in with some form of instinct only make sense and The jump back to your personal story a little bit you had mentioned me in our email correspondence that you spent fifteen years advising the rothschilds main financial wizard and, that's very provocative sounds like a hell of a life chapter it also but about what went on there. Well my business partner from years back when i have organic farm he brought this chapter is really good on incredibly well with the sky and

43:57 i realize that i never met a genius before this chat what was it. What is the genie really really incredible and i watched the ravages of drugs Take this man down he was such a genius you wasn't even advised the ross childs but unfortunately he got into heroin and crack. I watched him become destroyed by those drugs it was very very sad, add in the middle of that one of the rosters ask him would she fix his dealer and he came to me and said what do you know more about this why don't you try and fix this guy

44:44 And anyway, the Rothschilds were paying for a private chef to this man. He had lots and lots of people helping him and the private chef was making him raw juices organic, you know highest quality raw juices he was advised to use what all the supplements that I normally suggest not mention some of them as we go on And he'd been given days to live, he couldn't really walk and could say two words but by the time we got the third word he couldn't pronounce it. So we used a hyperthermia device basically a Nikola Tesla invention brought more into modern day Spanish device called an Indiva I N D I V A and we got his head shaved because he had glioblastoma brain cancer and we talked cleaner

45:37 how to use this machine on his head what did was it put in a radio frequency just under half megahertz and the radio frequency heats up body from inside. And your cancer cell can survive much over forty three degrees which should be i don't know what is farenheit where as a order so you can heat up higher than that So the hypothermia device was used to destroy the cancer cells from the inside or have them revert. There are different ways of dealing with cancer cells, you have them revert or die and produce normal cells. Anyway a couple long stories short it comes off the morphine 48 hours and he gets clean bill of health from the doctor some months later doesn't die.

46:26 wow i'm sure some people in this audience might wonder if you shouldn't just let nature take its course when you're dealing with someone who is a rothschild advisor, let me tell the story and by sheer coincidence. I knew the dealer's brother, i met him years decades earlier and the result was so stunning that i did a talk in london and the recovered guy came to this talk you know he got standing ovation because he told his story how we was gonna die and then didn't. And six weeks later i get in touch with him only find out that he'd been eating all fabulous food stop eating so much fabulous food it started

47:11 smoking again, he'd started some bad habits and it didn't take long until the cancer came back. Anyway, I went to see him at this point. So what the fuck are you doing? It's crazy." And he said, well actually it's like this. I haven't told my benefactor that I'm better because if I do, I'm afraid he is going to cut me off money. This particular roster was generously paying money to this guy and he was so scared that the money would be stopped if he admitted he was cured but hadn't told them

47:47 And I felt that on a psychological level, there was something weird. Anyway within less than a year he died. So i talked to the brother my friend oh yeah no the brother said to me Oh well I didn't tell you this He said on the day we got the all clear from the doctor We went out and bought two grams of crack Smart! Smart move exactly really I tell the story because there's nothing bad about anybody being said it's just that's just what happened. Yes i'm sure it's involved but everybody came out well from the story i found. Yeah interesting characters for sure and having been so close to that inner circle even just a couple of instances you know i gotta ask we hear so many juicy rumors and so much speculation about the elite from a call aspects two odd claims about bloodlines in

48:46 You know, I'm not saying that you've been indoctrinated into the mysteries of the universe but they are so protective and secretive it's hard to know exactly what to think. Did you see or experience anything during those interactions that might be of interest to people looking to get a window into the world behind the curtain? What is the first thing i realize which was surprised me what's how many of the people at the top and marry prostitutes, who is explained to me that look there's no messing about you know where are you getting your get the promise when they get rich they can't trust anybody. because everybody is after their money basically. And so trusting people becomes very difficult, particularly if your parents are psychopaths and you can't even trust granny. So it was amazing how many of them married prostitutes just because there was no messing about. That is an odd detail!

49:41 Yeah, I'm trying to think of the stories. I can probably tell. Oh dear! But there's a certain level of absolute craziness there and of course if you're rich... well as what? You know, I used to travel around in the private jets right and so yeah you go to an airport as you know when they want me to take your shoes off and take your belt off and they want to look everywhere but when you take the private jets you drive the car to the airport gate And the man comes out and says something like I'm awfully sorry to bother you but just need to look at your passport for one moment, i am terribly sorry to delay you for ten seconds. And then drive on the runway park outside of the plane and get on the plane off you go. Customs doesn't really exist if your in that

50:29 that echelon. Yeah, of course not! So you did mention a couple of technologies over the course Our conversation, a light-based healing device. Some testing devices the Nikola Tesla derived device and I know you regularly talk about cutting edge technologies that seem to be making a big difference in health of course it is good to get those classic natural components in check but what can you tell us about other things on the technological front that have impressed you? Recently the violent test is coming out of the i o m e and the volume tests is so gift to the world with a guy called jane. And he was brought up in poverty in india his dad had a government job

51:20 As some people may know, if you go to a government job in India they pay you almost nothing because 90% of what you earn is going to come from bribes. And this is just accepted and built into the system anyway This guy's dad was so honest he wouldn't take bribes So that they have no home because he wouldn't take bribes Anyway, he's now billionaire Naveen Jain and He was the first person to get a license To go mining on the moon Wow! I know he's a serial entrepreneur started hundreds of radically successful businesses anyway he wants to give back the world so is developed this bio test and made it affordable. It's about i think five hundred dollars two tests and will tell you in more detail than i think has ever been known what bacteria you've got in your body what viruses you've got on all those information search the first time

52:15 I think it's going to really shake up the world of medicine and health. So, the VIAM test is very interesting then there are other things like the predictive biomarkers. There's something called the LRA tests lymphocyte reaction assay And I think one of the interesting ones is delayed allergies. We all know about a fish allergy, shellfish allergy right? It happens pretty quickly but there are other allergies that take longer turns out that there are some allergies let's say you're allergic to radishes and cucumbers which I think are in the same family That happens four days later so last Thursday you ate cucumber and now it's Monday and your feeling really rubbish

53:02 You're not gonna put together that was the cucumber and so it turns out one of the real life savers out there is to do a delayed allergy test. And see if you got some this is all fairly new information me wouldn't cross my mind now, So I interviewed Dr. William Walsh and William Walsh, sorry he's not a doctor, William Walsh he has a test for the brain there is so much that these tests will tell you his tests for instance will tell if your schizophrenic manic depressive depressed whatever it is these tests blood tests will tell you exactly how to remedy it

53:46 It's been the case for a long time, but probably 80-90% of all those schizophrenic manic depression type bipolar things can be reversed because like everything else it is toxic poisoning and mineral nutritional deficiencies. B vitamins, vitamin b3, niacin is for many people with manic depression and that type of stuff is the answer The answer to bipolar for a lot of people, high dose niacin preferably is the non-flush one so it doesn't cause problems. There's a website I mentioned the guy before Andrew Saul he has a website called doctoryourself.com

54:26 and you can read about vitamin b3 nice in there but there are other things that will be more interviewed if you put my name on to youtube with my names clive to call, what time to call me when depression on youtube. There's two hours of your with really more who is a genius and explains how to do it so yeah there some incredible tests already here and some new ones in the wings you mentioned light earlier being one of those core elements. Some years ago i was lucky enough to borrow sort of a nasa developed artificial sun with power for sons, jess and sitting in front of that is so healing it's incredible and when i first came across it they were very very expensive

55:20 Now, they've come down in the realms of possibility to $10,000 or less. Still ridiculously expensive for a light but I think listeners can appreciate that if you had something in your living room the power of four suns and it was safe well that just could make you better. Then more recently I did an interview with a guy called Lou Lim and he has an infrared device that you put on your nostril and shine infrared light up your nose. And you can see the reactions that some Alzheimer's patients have, they switch on this light and if they're hooked up to a brain monitor, you can suddenly see all this new activity that lights switches on people's brain power

56:13 Hmm. Buy these devices for a few hundred dollars, it's called Vielight, but they're quite expensive as little device stick on the end of your nose there are lots of cheaper ways one could get similar effects going out in sunshine is one rather good one Yeah sometimes simplest is best and you mentioned those delayed allergies that is interesting I never really consider that either what about general allergies are people have bad sinuses or you wake up just congested what do you think is the typical cause for that or whats the typical remedy? Probably vitamin C.

56:54 Probably, vitamin C is the big answer for everything. If you got bitten by a poisonous snake or poison spider or had chemical poisoning or taking too much LSD what's the answer? Vitamin C it's fantastic for poisoning second best answer would be charcoal. Charcoal does the same turns off poisons sucks them into itself So allergies very often the original cause might have been glyphosate but vitamin C deficiency is rampant. A lot of people got scurvy, they just don't know it! Yeah, and that is funny about the vitamin C in the comment you made about LSD because it's been a I don't know if it's old wives tale or there's really anything to it. But you know, in my magic mushroom days people would always be like oh go get some extra vitamin C Go get some orange juice or go get some vitamin C drops cough drops because it intensifies the effects and maybe its placebo or maybe not but It is interesting it kind of goes in this wheelhouse with

57:57 vitamin C reactions to various things you might be putting in your body. Some might consider a poison, some might consider medicine but it is interesting that there seems to be some kind of reaction there Well it's an incredibly powerful substance. I've never heard it heightening an effect, usually the opposite but uh...I don't know. Yeah like you said it could have been just some college rumor wives tale type thing some urban legend but or maybe it's like extracting the poison out of your system faster which makes you hallucinate harder? Who knows but curious thing because that's the one thing that people have always said supplement your magic mushrooms with vitamin c. Man great time as we start to wrap this up you know you provided so much great information please do give people the details about your website contact info all the good stuff they can dig deeper now that there probably feeling properly motivated

58:54 Thanks Greg. My website is clivedecarle.com and my YouTube channel is also Clive De Carle, my Skype if you want to contact me is Skype, it's Clive de Carle all run together as one word, that's my Skype name I do consult clients either over Skype or telephone or in person I'm in the process of making a film at the moment, i am constantly making stuff but doing it properly. If anybody has got any amazing recovery stories i'd be very interested to speaking with you my email is clive at clive de karl dot com

59:41 If you want to invite me to america to give talks or something like that i'm very keen on trying to get the information out. I put it too much about fishing not enough about vitamins and minerals, what more can tell you what's all this is just what we need to know to really get. Get grips with how to detox for example how did he talk safely without making it worse. I would say, apart from my own problem type 1 diabetes almost everything else is actually reasonably easy assuming one gets to it in time. Right vitamin C magnesium and iodine seems like the holy trinity right there

1:00:22 What are the odds of that vitamin d vitamin c didn't mention that really high quality multi vitamins and minerals. I'm there if you really good ones out there i'm so cool is he wants to sort of quality people like dr mccullough or. All standard process so there are a lot of high end brands lost the pure encapsulation is lots of them. That's all really pretty good in england we got one called ancient purity that they're quite a few but it was everything just waste time not to go to the very best, there's great reference site out their couple ones could earth clinic dot com

1:01:04 And the other is green med info while it's always a good idea to have an experienced practitioner guide you. Thankfully there are some great websites out there run by people, not for money but people who just want to help earth clinic and green med info both great examples of those Awesome yeah those resources are extremely valuable and you're right about making a film that is a good approach because films. They do make the biggest difference i think weather we're talking about back store that movie black fish or clinton cash it just seems to be a mechanism delivery mechanism that people resonate with and i don't see anything actually changing the culture as much is documentaries doing we have been conditioned to sit in front of screen so i guess it's the only way to reach people

1:01:57 But what you were just saying did jog something in my memory I don't think we mentioned, but in the past talking about vitamins and vitamin C in particular. I think I've heard you mention it's better to go with a powder form not pills because pills have all this extra bullshit in them and at the volumes you're talking about taking vitamin c would be quite a bit of pills so your getting quite a bit that extra shit is that accurate look for a powder form? Yeah, you want a pure powder that is 100% mixed ascorbates and nothing else. No binders fillers glues nothing because we're going to take high doses you don't want to have a high dose of some little poison on the side right? The other important things are unprocessed salt real salt which is grey they call it Celtic salt very cheap incredibly good supplement

1:02:47 Fulvic minerals, f-u-l-v-i-c. That's soil based minerals from a good source. Everybody is pretty much low on silica and you can get silica from stinging nettles, from the herb horsetail. A lot of people need to look at their selenium levels. Nobody should be supplementing with the type of calcium that you get in the drugstore. One should eat green leafy vegetables Sulfur is an incredible one for detoxification. They call it MSM, organic sulfur. There are different qualities again the high quality stuff and sulfur sulfates heavy metals so everybody's heavy metal poison so

1:03:28 vitamin C, charcoal are super important and there are two types of charcoal out there. The old-fashioned stuff and activated charcoal everybody believes that activated charcoal is the best one what you really want is old fashioned charcoal which is known as c60 charcoal. C 60 is Buckminster Fuller's fullerenes heard of fullerenes? I have not what c sixty is history behind sixty because all the latest. All of the anti aging conferences in america talk with conference with c sixty noble prize was one twenty five years ago discovery of c sixty that's it that's sixty carbon atoms join together into a bit like shape for football

1:04:15 which is a buckminster fuller design geodesic domes and link anyway four years ago they just study five years ago of mice i want to see the toxicity of c60 after two years Half the mice were dead. Those were what had just got to the end of their lifespan, sorry the rats that had C60 was still alive almost two years later doubling their lifespan they killed the rats because they wanted to complete the study so the idea that c60 which is very cheap by the way could be a life extension product at least

1:04:53 Rats are happy. But it turns out that while you can get various forms of C60 in ordinary charcoal, not activated charcoal old-fashioned charcoal that the charcoal burners used to make in old times is full of C60 as is outer space when they look at their radio telescopes and see the frequency of space It's full of C60! It's a really interesting thing that people should perhaps examine. Huh Man, just no shortage of information and good advice. You definitely know your sector the pie really well So very cool man Thanks again for being here a champion of the people keep doing what you do and take care yourself. Thanks Greg. You got it Clive de Carl ladies and gentlemen Clive de Carl

1:05:44 People have been asking me to do another health related show for a while ever since I'd say Richard Jacoby which was so popular. Well, I think this one fills the need pretty nicely Clive also gets into the birth-related stuff a lot too Which i liked and it makes a good compliment to Janice Barcello Especially for people who thought that she was a little extreme which I get but what are you gonna? Do I like to let people's freak flags fly around here So It happens. But Clive makes so many great points though, and it just sucks that we have to go so far out of the way to get information about our health because the entire mainstream paradigm is compromised—food, nutrition, medicine and health! And that alone when you sit and think about the totality of that, the depth of that...it's very creepy and very alarming

1:06:36 And what a good point it is also to say that when you go to a doctor, they're paid to find something wrong with you. You really gotta remember that! They have an incentive to do so It's like a salesman who gotcha in the door and doesn't want ya leave until something has been purchased And of course I'm no communist, but when we did that show on planned obsolescence with Cosima Danneritzer a big part of that was looking at how products were made under communism and doctors did come up too. The fact that in capitalism you want people to buy more so you engineer products to fail as opposed to making them for everybody and not wanting them to come back and not wanting to do extra work So you make them as structurally sound as you can, at least in principle

1:07:19 They'll talk about that too in places where healthcare is free and doctors are just paid that standard wage. Doctors, like everyone, just want to do as little work as possible so these doctors end up teaching people nutrition and you don't offer unnecessary drugs or surgeries what's the point? You're not getting paid anymore to cut this guy open so just let him be And to play devil's advocate of course, maybe doctors in that environment would just pretend they didn't see that lump or mole you probably should get checked out. So it is hard to craft a perfect system of incentives like I want to be fair But in ours, they cut you open even when they don't have to. Tell you very little about why you have X Z or Y wrong with you. Stitch ya up and send you back out into the world to repeat your old habits. You end up back there again with the same problem. Rinse and repeat... And now you're barely kicking AND you're out tens of thousands of dollars! So pretty much any other paradigm would be better

1:08:17 Here's another weird thing, but if you're into hip-hop music at all have you noticed the shift from talking about weed and getting high and getting wasted on high end liquor to talking about Percocets and Xanax and pills? Hip-hop songs are becoming ads for Big Pharma. It's pretty messed up even Post Malone I really liked some of his goofy mumble rap stoner songs, but his new one is about Popping pillies quote unquote and when I hear that I just always think it is a little gross Like what are you doing? Don't you know who your promoting

1:08:55 And then knowing how far back the manipulation of hip-hop goes and seeing how coordinated this new push seems to be, I doubt it's an accident. But having a guest like Clive always jumpstarts my desire to take better care of myself and i think we all fall into some of the traps from time to time... ...and it's good to get a reminder and a little motivation to just do better! Nobody is perfect, we have a lot of addictions and its a culture that we are engineered to be obsessed with But we can do a lot better. I know i'm gonna at least get some vitamin c powder myself, maybe even look into some raw milk if i'm feeling extra rebellious and I gotta give it up to Clive also for having that clip on hand not a lot of guests bring that level of preparation and involvement to the table And what a clip it was! An autistic girl that sounded pretty damn recovered to me

1:09:46 It's just so mind-blowing that autism is to some degree reversible. Like, that's wild! It's also pretty incredible that vitamin C magnesium and iodine are as powerful as people like Clive tell us they are I've had many more guests than Clive bring up those three elements but it just is interesting to think that maybe it IS that simple for most things But if you liked the conversation, of course we talk about a lot of other stuff in the second hour which we call The Plus Show for Paid Members. That's where we did talk more about dairy and pasteurized versus raw kefir and the power fermentation, The Untold Truths Of Antibiotics, Clive's Alex Jones anecdote how to take care your teeth oh updates on the GC Math thing and Clives involvement with David Noakes that was another good health show from back in the day

1:10:41 how to sprout organic seeds right in your apartment, also Clive's radical revelations about the moon. That's where it got a little weird of course and we talked about some strange stories from Clive's childhood so all good stuff if you like the first hour no reason to think you wouldn't like the second sign up at the higher side chats plus dot com But we did it! We got another show in the can. Show number four for November, so we had Wolfgang on Sandy Hook, Janice on birth trauma Michael Joseph on the esoteric elements of the JFK assassination ritual and now of course Clive DeCarle with more health stuff and the last show is gonna be with Ilana Freeland about what she calls The Space Fence and I think that makes for a pretty solid month

1:11:30 Also, I just had everybody's favorite singer Lauren Silva record three new parody covers for THC based on popular pop songs. And i think we're going to start with a little Justin Bieber because why the hell not? It's the holidays let's treat ourselves! Remember all THC cover songs if you like the shows ending tracks are free downloads for plus members also so Anyway, I am gonna be getting out of here. You will be hearing from me in a couple days! I've done my part Your move big pharma fuckers petrochemical criminals and hip-hop pill poppin' enablers your fucking move You know the plan has always been to hack your brain MKUltra's trying to drive you insane They'll explode your heart if they think that's what it takes

1:12:28 You think I'm answering the phone, well I ain't. You gotta keep the curtains drawn Cause you don't want anyone thinking your at home Well your not! You should tape the mail slot And baby if i seem withdrawn Let me say it's cause I just dont wanna go and get whacked Maybe you should know that The trauma affects you like it does everyone It's just the game plan, it's what the world's become They want a pat down and a swap Don't you see what's going on? Well now you know You're better keeping on your own Cause' you can see The masters lie too much Oh baby, you can only trust yourself

1:13:20 And if you think the system's out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself I hope you know the elite aren't your friends They'll suck out everything from you in the end If for some reason, you think I might be wrong I wonder where you got that opinion from You gotta keep the curtains drawn Cause you don't want anyone thinking you're at home Well, you're not. You should tape the mail slot And baby if I seem withdrawn Let me say it's cause I just Don't wanna go and get whacked Maybe you should know that The trauma affects you like it does everyone It's just a game plan, it's what the world's become

1:14:18 They want a pat down and a swap Don't you see what's going on? Well now you know You're better keeping on your own Cause' you can see The masters lie too much Oh baby, you can only trust yourself And if you think the system is out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself You might think that these problems are small Maybe they aren't registering at all Now they know you're naive and vulnerable

1:15:21 You won't believe all of the stunts that they'll pull Cause you can see, the masters lie too much Oh baby you can only trust yourself And if you think the system's out of touch It is and you can only trust yourself Cause' you can see, the masters lie too much Oh baby you can only trust yourself. And if you think the system's out of touch it is and you can only trust yourself