Topic: Richard Gage

Andrew Johnson criticizes the organization Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, led by Richard Gage, labeling it a "honeypot" operation. He reveals internal vetting guidelines that specifically instruct volunteers to screen out anyone associated with Dr. Judy Wood. Johnson recounts a confrontation with Gage where the latter allegedly referred to Wood's research as "witchcraft."

Greg Carlwood reflects on the technical challenge of hosting a five-person panel, noting it is a new record for The Higherside Chats. He compares the experience to a 2019 episode featuring 9/11 Truth advocates Richard Gage and Barbara Honegger. Carlwood expresses his excitement for the upcoming Shasta trip as a necessary "medicine" for the stresses of the modern world and confirms his intention to fully participate in the Wim Hof training.