Topic: Reconnaissance

The conversation examines the work of Elizabethan sorcerer John Dee and his influence on the modern systems of longitude and latitude. Bell argues that these systems act as a mathematical grid or "organ" that occultists can play to imbue events with energetic potency. He cites the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and DARPA’s Information Awareness Office as modern entities that utilize occult symbolism, such as the owl and the all-seeing eye, while mapping the globe.

Tony Merkel describes the behind-the-scenes process of interviewing Charlie, noting that the witness initially got cold feet before eventually sharing his story. The episode became a viral success, garnering 100,000 downloads in its first week. Merkel explains his role in helping witnesses piece together their complex experiences, such as the realization that Charlie might have been sent to rescue himself.