Topic: Order Followers

The mandatory government school system is compared to the Indian Boarding Schools used to turn Native American children into taxpayers and soldiers. Similarities are drawn between modern American youth programs (Cub Scouts, JROTC, AmeriCorps) and the tiered indoctrination system described by Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany. These techniques are designed to produce "order followers" who will set aside personal morality to execute state commands.

Passio identifies "order followers" in the police and military as the greatest violators of natural law on the planet. He argues that the ruling class incurs little karma because they only "whisper" commands, while the physical actors bear the spiritual consequences of their immoral actions. He challenges listeners to find others who openly call out the immorality of obedience, noting the extreme rarity of this stance.

Host Greg Carlwood reflects on the aggressive tone of the interview and Passio's stance on order followers. He notes the high suicide and depression rates among soldiers and police as potential evidence of the subconscious toll of violating natural law. Carlwood also mentions Jordan Peterson's views on dominance hierarchies, wondering how Passio's philosophy of "no masters" would counter Peterson's arguments.