Topic: Jeffrey Gray

The "Watchers" from the Book of Enoch are re-examined as fallen angels who were punished for their desire to teach and engage with humanity. Peter Gray’s work suggests that these stories represent a proto-Judaic shamanism where the spirit world was not strictly divided into good and evil. This animist framework posits that "falling" refers to spirits embedding themselves into the physical cosmos, such as rocks, rivers, and crystals, rather than a moral descent into sin.

Darren Shaffer, host of the Cooper Vortex podcast, joins the program to discuss the 1971 DB Cooper skyjacking. Shaffer explains his personal entry into the "Cooper Vortex" while living near the suspected drop zone in Woodland, Washington. He cites Jeffrey Gray's book Skyjack and Robert Blevins' work as primary catalysts for his deep dive into the case's extensive suspect list.