Topic: Divination

Host Greg Carlwood introduces guests Lance Baker and Matt Dragonstone to discuss the art of petitioning spirits and the subconscious. Lance Baker is a hypnotherapist and Reiki healer, while Matt Dragonstone is an astrological magician and jeweler. They introduce their collaborative project, a Pleiadian pendulum set designed for spiritual communication, which was inspired by the passing of their mutual friend and frequent guest, Gordon White.

The host asks about a rare liqueur he drank with Gordon White, and the pendulum spells out "R-O-L-N-O," which he identifies as Rosolio, a floral Italian liqueur. He also receives a message for his listeners: "S-O-M-M-O-N," which he links to the Hebrew root "Shimon" (Simon), meaning "to hear" or "to listen." The host concludes that while his "signal" as a medium is shaky, the pendulum successfully moved on its own to provide interesting hits.