Topic: Anti Humanism

The host reflects on the legacy of Gordon White, noting that he became an outcast in the magical community for his counterculture stances on COVID-19 and human trafficking. Many modern occultists have been captured by mainstream political binaries, leading them to dismiss scholarly work that doesn't align with "blue" or "red" team narratives. This segment critiques the "Fox and the Grapes" mentality of those who disparage experts for holding truthful but unpopular opinions.

The lack of anti-establishment or anti-war music in the modern era is attributed to the total corporate control of the industry by entities like Live Nation. Artists are allegedly kept in line through compromising material gathered at industry events. Furthermore, the grotesque and "satanic" imagery at modern award shows like the VMAs is interpreted as a pagan-style ritual of appeasement or symbolic human sacrifice for those whose careers are ending.

Greg Carlwood and James Madden discuss the agency of non-human things, citing Gordon White’s anecdote about a banana making itself appealing to humans to reach space. Madden explains that this "hyper-objective" thinking involves a form of anti-humanism, which rejects the idea that humans are the central controllers of the world. They link this to Jacques Vallée’s concept of Magonia, the medieval "fairyland" that exists parallel to our own.