Topic: Alcatraz

Claims circulating on social media suggest that approximately 1,200 detainees are missing from the Alligator Alcatraz facility and have not been repatriated. Supplemental theories involve ICE agents in Chicago allegedly being former IDF soldiers and reports of bodies being dropped into the ocean from planes. The segment references John McAfee’s claim that the U.S. Department of Immigration is the world's largest human trafficking organization, linking open border policies to organ harvesting and child trafficking.

The episode concludes with a summary of second-hour topics, including potential links to the Zodiac Killer and Alcatraz escapees. Carlwood encourages listeners to support the show via Higher Side Chats Plus to avoid corporate branding like Disney Plus. He offers final praise for the organizers of live events like CooperCon before closing with the show's signature outro music.

Chad Lewis discusses the evolution of ghost stories, noting how they change over generations like a game of telephone. He advises seekers of the paranormal to avoid famous commercial sites like Alcatraz in favor of isolated rural locations where environmental disturbances are minimal. Lewis cites his master's thesis research, which indicated that a person's expectation of a paranormal encounter significantly increases the likelihood of them reporting an experience.