Monday, 31 July 2017

Tracy Twyman | Ancient Esoteric Cults, Elite Beliefs, & Conquering The Sun

Ancient Roman mystery cults and modern financial architecture collide as secret societies utilize biohacking and ritual sites to manage a simulated reality.

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About this episode

Tracy Twyman returns to expose the ritualistic architecture of the global elite, focusing on Michael Bloomberg and the construction of his London headquarters atop the ancient Roman Temple of Mithras. This massive development in the City of London financial district sits at a geographic nexus shared by the Rothschild Newcourt building and the Bank of England. Twyman details how these modern corporate structures serve as physical manifestations of ancient Mithraic and Cybele cult rites designed to manage the global economy through symbolic alignment with sleeping deities.

Technological advancements in the Bloomberg building, such as digital ceilings and heat-sensing biohacking tools, represent a new era of worker efficiency and surveillance. Twyman links these corporate environments to the Orphic egg and simulation theory, noting that Silicon Valley billionaires are reportedly funding research to escape a perceived computer-generated reality. The discussion covers the symbolic importance of the London Stone, the hermaphroditic rocks of the Kaaba, and the OTO sex magic rituals used by Aleister Crowley to create a homunculus. Twyman claims these occult technologies are utilized by a hidden hierarchy to siphon human energy into carnal containers.

Greg Carlwood and Tracy Twyman explore the alchemical sacrifice depicted in Alejandro Jodorowsky's film The Holy Mountain and its roots in the 17th-century text The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz. The conversation turns to the myth of Atlas as a metaphor for the masses supporting the debt-based currency of the elite. Twyman concludes by detailing the Conquering of the Sun ritual, where successive generations of gods like Saturn and Zeus overthrow their predecessors to initiate new cosmic Aeons.


CHAPTER 01 / 22 Discussion

Tracy Twyman Returns to Discuss Occult Rituals, Secret Societies

Host Greg Carlwood introduces returning guest Tracy Twyman to discuss her research into elite secret cults and arcane traditions. The conversation references Twyman's previous work on Baphomet, the Knights Templar, and the CIA's involvement in mind control. Twyman's new novel, Genuflect, serves as the primary vehicle for discussing deep-level disclosures regarding ritualistic activities among the global elite.

tracy twyman· baphomet· knights templar· pizzagate· spirit cooking· occultism

00:05 It's rough and masters almost surely have a f*** This clearly may be something heavy And until you've thoroughly tested every last horse Just think you know the less you really do That's true, Dr. Seuss! They're working without THC Cause they're lying to us just don't know Without THC The higher side checks show A wooden company

00:44 Alright, Hiresight Chatters. It seems the more one might dig into the closed-door activities of The Elite... ...the more messed up it gets from spirit cooking and Pizzagate to strange backwoods rituals and odd entity alignments that don't match anything we've seen in the mainstream circles And not only do these activities exist to satisfy the sexual and psychopathic desires of the Capstone Cabal, but it also seems like many of these cloak-and-dagger traditions go back centuries as the preserved bloodlines of powerful people work towards arcane aims that make one wonder if they're even human. Well, with us today is returning guest Tracy Twyman to dive deeply into her latest work in trying to understand the rituals and symbolic meanings behind some of today's most notorious secret cults and traditions at the upper crust perhaps tracing back to the time of the gods themselves.

01:31 You might remember the previous times Tracey has been here, once to talk about her book Clock Shavings and her personal exploration of the occult making contact with several entities including what seems to have been the legendary entity Baphomet. And again more recently to discuss another book of hers, Baphomet The Temple Mystery Unveiled where she talks about the Knights Templar, the disembodied head of John the Baptist and the idea that rituals in veneration for Baphomet by the Knights Templar was their secret source power and knowledge that several of the financial alchemy tools they used to amass their wealth emerged from. Both far out in interesting shows, and of course Tracy has written several other great books about the subjects we love to explore including Mind Controlled Sex Slaves in The CIA, The Dragon Legacy-The Secret History Of An Ancient Bloodline, Money Grows On The Tree Of Knowledge, and now her first novel Genuflect which uses fiction as a vessel to discuss these deep level disclosures more safely

CHAPTER 02 / 22 Discussion

Genuflect Novel Blends Fact, Fiction, and Historical Figures

Tracy Twyman explains the blurred lines between reality and fiction in her novel Genuflect. The protagonist, Pamela Auger, is a fictionalized version of Twyman herself, while the primary antagonist is modeled after Michael Bloomberg. Twyman clarifies that while the villain's interests in esoteric philosophy and surrealism are part of the narrative, the more nefarious crimes depicted are fictionalized elements used to explore deep-state conspiracy themes.

genuflect· pamela auger· michael bloomberg· conspiracy fiction· ritual murder

02:28 So let's get this party started. A woman who is not afraid to stare into the heart of darkness and say, Is that all you got? Tracy Twyman welcome back to The Higher Side Thank you so much, Greg. I appreciate you having me on. Yeah! I really love having you here and this novel is fascinating and it goes into some really dark places It gets into those things at the deepest end of the conspiracy pool ritualistic rape and murder by the puppet masters of the planet And obviously we've had a couple related dust-ups in the news cycle related to these things since we last talked But to kick this off, since we're talking about a novel can you help clarify where the line is between fact and fiction in this new book? Because it seems pretty detailed and well-researched but maybe the names have been changed to protect the author.

03:16 Well, it should be fairly easy if you read it all the way to tell where the line is But there's some definite caveats and disclosures I need to make ahead of time So if you read You'll notice The main character Pamela auger seems a lot like me because she has a job kind of like mine writing books Like mine. She has books that are like mine except with slightly changed titles so she is kinda like me but She has a more exciting life and she's a little bit better suited to having adventures, you know. So she doesn't have a husband and a child I don't think i even said what age she was...I imagined her being a little bit younger and more fit and just more able to jump around and spring around the world if she needs too And that's where I left it because I didn't want to really tell people what to imagine too much

04:08 I kinda just told the story and as far as the characters were concerned, i do give a bit of description but i really leave it to imagination too. Some other characters involved people recognize has been based on historical figures and figures in current news and current events so certainly there's a villain that is kind of based on Michael bloomberg and the reason for this is because when i was formulating this whole idea which was about august in september of last year i really first my first idea was just to write about. Just secret society cult type organizations,

CHAPTER 03 / 22 Discussion

Bloomberg London Headquarters Built Atop Ancient Temple of Mithras

Michael Bloomberg purchased land in the City of London's financial district to construct a massive European headquarters on the site of an ancient Roman Temple of Mithras. The temple, originally discovered in 1954 during post-war excavations of Londinium, was temporarily moved but has been restored to its original location within the new Bloomberg development. Twyman notes the significance of this specific geographic point in the history of London's financial and Roman roots.

michael bloomberg· temple of mithras· londinium· city of london· archaeological excavation

04:51 Doing you know rituals with children rape rituals based on the Knights Templar and. I imagine something having to do with you know the deep web and some of this dark pornography that spread there and so i started a formula that is how did i wanted to have it set in london and i remembered this. Monument that i've seen my husband my previous husbands name brian is deceased now can i wear in england. In two thousand five we came across this thing when we were just walking down the strand which isn't, the city of london that burrow there's a district of london called the city of london which is the financial district so you're walking through their running crosses thing that was an ancient temple of methros

05:34 that had been discovered. It was left over from the old Roman city of Londinium, that pre-existed everything else there in England and London before it was called England. And so anyway there's this ancient Roman temple to the god Mithras but it had been moved to where we stumbled upon it from its original location which was just really a few feet down the road but when they found it in 1954. when they were excavating to try to build an office building. And they actually had to build the office building right away, so they didn't even really have time to do proper archaeology there but they picked up the temple and moved it down the road and tried to reconstruct it as best they could So what I found was a poorly reconstructed version. About eight months ago or whenever I started outlining this novel, I thought oh! It would be great to mention The Temple of Mithras

06:34 In the novel so i just looked it up you know refresh my memory about where was located and came to find out that's you know since two thousand five last time in england michael bloomberg has purchased. The land on which the original temple of myth is a place with it where did been discovered and he's building his He was calling it his European headquarters when he originally started trying to do this, but then Britain pulled out of the EU. So I think that's why he is now calling it just as London headquarters. But anyway, he's building this huge building that's going to be the biggest building in terms of land mass and I guess just the mass of the materials being used. It's one of the largest construction projects in other words that has occurred in London

CHAPTER 04 / 22 Discussion

Mithraism and Cybele Worship Integration in Modern Architecture

The construction of the Bloomberg building in London coincides with specific astrological and historical dates in March 2018. Tracy Twyman describes how her research into the cults of Mithras and Cybele aligned perfectly with the physical location of the Bloomberg site. The discussion highlights the elite's apparent obsession with ancient ritual sites and the manifestation of prophecy through modern construction projects.

mithraism· cybele· bloomberg building· esoteric architecture· roman london

07:24 And so it's going to be right there where the original temple of Mithras was. And he has already done it, really moved the reconstructed temple back to its original place in the exact same spot where it used to be and is going to try to renovate it better than ever. So anyway when I discovered this, I thought well I have to have a scene there at that temple and then I started researching Mithrism and Cybele worship Which I had already decided that i was going to work into the story somehow. And it all just sort of came together perfectly and became this, I mean...I know I need to wind down my answer here but that became the opening point at which everything that I planned on putting in my story sort of came together in this magical way

08:13 I didn't even realize was as perfect as it turned out to be. So, yeah so the location is based on a real location which is this real Temple of Mithras has been moved to this place and the new Bloomberg building is going to be opened and well they told me before the third quarter of this year when I started writing this they weren't saying So i just projected and i said you know maybe it'll happen by march of twenty eighteen and then there was some very important dates having to do with the end of march in twenty eighteen that ended up becoming part of the story. The main characters based on bloomberg but,

08:50 You know, it's a lot. I mean in a lot of ways he is different too because my character is interested and in a lot of really deep subjects you know a lot of esoteric occult subjects and he's interested in philosophy and surrealist art and stuff and of course he's involved some really nefarious things like raping children and murdering people, and all these are things that I have no reason to believe Michael Bloomberg is doing. So I guess that's where the fact and fiction separate. Right fair enough! And i do find this Mithras Temple Find really intriguing the idea that Bloomberg is

CHAPTER 05 / 22 Discussion

Smart Building Technology and Biohacking for Worker Efficiency

Modern corporate architecture, exemplified by the Bloomberg building and similar projects in the Netherlands, utilizes "digital ceilings" and sensors to monitor employee movements and brainwaves. This technology aims to maximize worker efficiency through biohacking and environmental control. The hosts compare these advancements to a form of economic slavery where every bit of productivity is extracted from the workforce via constant surveillance.

biohacking· smart buildings· google· worker efficiency· surveillance technology

09:27 Concerned about it at all is fascinating to me to the elite places are so important and also how things were in the ancient world they always seem to try to be. manifesting prophecy and all kinds of strange stuff that does often center around locations like this. And another thing you've said about this in one of your blogs was that, this Bloomberg place is supposed to be the smartest building in Europe built to generate its own energy and even share it with nearby buildings. You mentioned technology to maximize the efficiency of the workers inside. I just went to a conference

10:03 on consciousness with like really far out tech valley speakers like guys from google and all that stuff in one of them did talk about this very company he started that is supposed to have something i'd imagine it working like a wifi signal light just radiating an area in the signal. But that's what it's about is measuring brainwaves and trying to biohack your way to greater efficiency. And I was like, wow! This is really what they're talking about. Just having economic slaves isn't enough you really want to squeeze every last bit of blood out of them that you can. It's messed up. Yeah well reality again provided everything I needed to create this fictional story and then

10:47 I mean the whole thing just turned into this magical process because i would write things come up with things in my own mind that i thought were just totally made up and it in fact i thought we're. Kind of unbelievable and then you know i just do a little bit research try to, Right work things in try to see what i can do to back it up a little bit and find out that im exactly right you know something that i dreamed of sometimes would happen couple days after i wrote about it my story hadn't shown anyone you know something very similar with the news. As far as the building is concerned, yeah. First I said to myself this Temple of Mithras is great and I've got to have some scenes here. And started looking into the building that Michael Bloomberg's going to put there and it's based on another building in I think I'm going to say The Netherlands yes it's at The Netherlands and there's this Dutch designer who came up with a lot of these ideas. They've got this term

CHAPTER 06 / 22 Discussion

Digital Ceilings and Robot Integration in The New Work

The "New Work" concept in modern office design eliminates assigned desks and utilizes digital ceilings to track individuals via heat sensors and cameras. In the Bloomberg building and its Dutch counterparts, self-sufficient robots provide services while employees generate energy using gym equipment hooked to generators. The architecture features solar-panel windows and automated systems that anticipate human habits, creating a highly controlled and efficient environment.

digital ceiling· robotics· solar windows· the new work· workplace surveillance

11:46 I guess it's in dutch that means the new work and here is what it is man so you describe some of it in bloombergs planned building okay there something called a digital ceiling. And this, its super energy efficient it knows everything everyone doing beneath right so it monitoring you with the camera with all kinds of other sensors that would monitor your heat and you know, following each individual around the building as they go. And the purpose of this they say is energy efficiency so they'll know when your going somewhere and when you've just arrived they need to provide more light and heat in that area for instance

12:31 you know the building is smart enough to figure out what your patterns are your habits during the day so it'll try to anticipate them and then there's this other thing where in this building one of these new work kind of buildings including bloomberg people will not have their own desks they must try to score a desk when i get to work They're discouraged from using the same desk every day they get lockers to put their possessions in because the tables that they have don't have drawers or anything so you supposed to put your things in a locker and shouldn't even use the same locker two days in a row.

13:08 Oh and other things like especially the executives people kind of in charge a certain department stuff they can set up little codes. That the digital ceiling will read so they can make like i hand gesture or something and it will know what in the building needs to happen next and signal robots to come and bring you food are just all sorts of things. Bloomberg's building is going to be crawling with your self sufficient robots, and the building that is kind of inspired by in the netherlands is also you know already doing that. The gate to the parking garage opens up right before u drive because it knows its since your card knows who are you know what opens up to greet you when, oh they need a thing about how you know there's gonna be a gym an exercise room. And all the exercise equipment is hooked up to generators so that while your exercising generating energy

14:05 Okay, the windows themselves are solar panels. And in fact from what I was reading all the new buildings and ones that are built with any kind of decent budget, the big skyscrapers and stuff they're all going to soon be covered with these windows that are actually sucking in solar energy too so he's got this amazing building that he is building with this idea of yes being energy efficient but also trying to... With his new work concept where no one's allowed to have a desk or anything Yeah, supposedly try to make you interact more with the other employees or something. To me I would never want to go to work it sounds awful. What do you think Greg? Would you want to work in a place like that? Absolutely not! Obviously some of that stuff from the technology standpoint sounds pretty appealing but it does also seem like it's a lot of razzle-dazzle to hide some potential darkness and cut

CHAPTER 07 / 22 Discussion

London Stone and the Lord Mayor's Sovereign Authority

The City of London remains a distinct legal entity where the British monarch must traditionally ask the Lord Mayor for permission to enter. Central to this district is the London Stone, an ancient Roman milliarium used to measure distances across the province. Tracy Twyman discusses the symbolic importance of this stone and its proximity to the Bloomberg site, suggesting the area serves as a primary nexus for global financial and occult power.

london stone· city of london· lord mayor· londinium· british monarchy

14:59 throw-at-work environment for sure, and I don't think we need any more of that. But is there anything else we should say about this location of esoteric significance either in the ancient world or the Temple of Mithras aspect rather than Bloomberg's building itself? Well, I have had my theories about what the significance might be you can tell it is a very significant spot and here's why for one thing its Right next to several buildings that are important to finance particularly in england and of course you know the spikes tension the rest of world because london still is very much. Kind of the center of finance in a lot of ways you know and like the golden silver prices are still fix their you know they still need in a lot of ways

15:48 The global markets and so it's symbolically and in truth very significant for the world economy london is particular this district called the city of london which is really the original. I mentioned there was Londinium, the ancient Roman city. Well this quote city of London which is now just a district of London that's the original Roman city The walls of this district basically still correspond to what those original Roman walls were and the Romans had this object called the London stone well we don't know if it they what they call it but it's now called the London Stone

16:28 And it's believed to go back to the Romans. They theorized they used to use it as a, I think they'd call it a malarium stone So what is this? It's the stone that you would put in the middle of the city or if not the exact middle like the most significant area in the city and kind of try to put it in the middle and measure everything else in the city out from that point so Anyway, that's what they think this rock originally was well. It's been symbolically significant to the city of London even before England became a country and you know people theorize that maybe the stone was involved with the coronation of chieftains and stuff before there were kings in england and then even after england got created

17:16 the City of London continued to be its own separate entity legally. And so there's a tradition that even the monarch has to ask permission from the legal head of the City of London, which is this position called Lord Mayor So then the Queen you know theoretically or traditionally should ask the Lord Mayor for permission to enter the city of London. So right here in this heart of the City of London right where this London stone object used to be and will again, I believe according to what I've read it'll be returned there again soon. So in this location that's the location that Michael Bloomberg chose to put his building that's where the Temple of Mithras originally was and there is an underground river that flows right through it There are several underground rivers in London And this one of the important ones It's called The Walbrook

CHAPTER 08 / 22 Discussion

Rothschild Newcourt and the Myth of Kronos' Tomb

The Bloomberg headquarters sits adjacent to the Rothschild family's Newcourt building and the Bank of England, situated over the underground Walbrook River. Tracy Twyman links this geography to the Greek myth that the Titan Kronos, also known as Saturn or Mithras, is imprisoned in a tomb beneath the British Isles. This "ground zero" of global finance is theorized to be a sacred spot where the elite manage the world economy through symbolic alignment with the sleeping deity.

rothschild· bank of england· kronos· saturn· walbrook river

18:09 And right next to Bloomberg's building, there are several other important buildings such as the Rothschild Building. This is the building that—it's called Newcourt. It has been rebuilt several times but it is the same plot of land that the Rothschild have been possessing and controlling in London since 1700, since they began their financial Control of england and then you know other territories as well so this is kind of. You know ground zero at least that particular aspect of their empire, i also case the bank of england is right next to it the london bouillon market where they at least used up until about a year ago set the price of gold and silver

18:56 In that building, the building is right there. And so yeah you got the London stone you get them temple of mythris bank of england. London billion market association all right there in this plot of land that's right around this street called bucklersbury and it shaped like a superman diamond which is something I mentioned in the book has a great deal of significance but so all these things are right there i think its important little bit of spoiler but i kind of think it's Related to the myth that England is built on top of the island rests on top of the tomb. Of cronos so there in this goes back to the Greeks they said that chronos was build you know after it's the titans got dethroned by the Olympian gods cronos and his buddies

19:48 Got put in this to make all of it is a god so he's not really dead so it's more like a prison and he's kind of sleeping there. And they described as being underneath the british isles and for number of reasons not least which is that myth rest, is considered the same as Saturn. Mithras is this Persian deity that was imported to the Roman Empire and worshipped by Romans in the late part of the Roman Empire, so Mithras is Saturn, Saturn is Kronos these are all names for the same figure So you've got a temple to Mithra right there, to Kronos-Saturn and you've got a myth that Kronos is buried and kind of locked away in a tomb

20:31 Underneath england so i think it's right there, I think that's the location There's a number of other reasons why. I think that too most of which I explain eventually one way or another in the book but yeah That's what I think is going on there So it's kind of like you know One of these center-of-the world kind of areas You know it's a very sacred spot I think Right. Yeah, I love that nexus of symbolism around Mithras Kronos Saturn there are researchers out there talk about a black Sun or even it ties into the Electric Universe that Saturn might have once been our son and just really weird stuff But it seems to be important to them at least and it's pretty clear The elite want to control certain spots on the planet for deep esoteric reasons that they aren't sharing with us

CHAPTER 09 / 22 Discussion

Cybele Cult Rites and the Mythology of Attis

The ancient cult of Cybele, a mother goddess imported from Phrygia to Rome, involved intense rituals including the self-castration of priests in honor of her son-consort, Attis. Mythology describes Cybele inducing madness in Attis, leading to his mutilation and death after he attempted to marry another. These rites were historically performed during a festival at the end of March, marking the transition of the seasons and the resurrection of the deity.

cybele· attis· phrygia· ritual castration· mother goddess

21:18 And before we do get too deep, we should probably talk about those ancient cults of Mithras and Cybele. You mentioned Cybele earlier I think people probably know a little less about that particular entity but let's discuss maybe the symbolism and traditions surrounding them because i guess the suggestion is that in some elite occult circles at least some of these traditions might still be intact Well yes and one of the vectors through which these traditions have continued on i think is through templarism which then influenced freemasonry in the o.t.o and a bunch of other western groups but

21:57 Let's just start with Cybele worship, for instance. Which goes back way further... She was worshipped in the history of the Romans way further back in history than Mithras and it is again an import from Phrygia from Anatolia but they incorporated well into their culture to the point where she kind of became an embodiment of the state to them. She's the mother goddess so she's considered Equivalent to sorta kinda like Gaia and Rhea, these kinds of mother goddesses from Greek mythology. I make the point in the book that i think these are the same figure and im not just mashing all the girl goddesses together you know? Im not being sexist there's a real reason why i think all these characters really are the same thing

22:51 So Cybele's worship was marked with two very particular types of rituals. One was the castration of the priests, the priest would go into a frenzy during this festival to Cybele that would happen once a year at the end of March they'd have You know a parade they go walking down the street drunk and on drugs going to. No religiously induced frenzy and then the priest or the wanna be priest ones that were being inducted into the priesthood would castrate themselves with a knife right there in front of everybody,

23:30 And this is all in homage to Addis who's Cybelle son and the whole mythology of Cybelle and Addis is really the main myth of the Cybelle worship. So, the story is that she was a goddess, the mother goddess she had a son Initially according to the more detailed versions of the story didn't want him. And expose you know left him for dead basically is an infant and left alone but someone else found them raised up, and then when he became an adult or not even a doll really but you know when we can to mature. He was like a prepubescent child is how I take it from the description she fell in love with them and

24:20 Depending on which version of the story you read, some kind of gloss over this part. But it seems like if we go into more detailed versions that she had a sexual relationship with him when he was young but then he wanted to marry a woman when he grew up and they were going to get married in some versions of the story they're actually at the altar getting married And Cybele shows up and according to some versions, well the most common version is just that she filled him with madness. Deliberately inducing him to castrate himself and then he bled out and died. And you know that was her revenge for loving someone else

CHAPTER 10 / 22 Discussion

Easter and April Fools' Day Confluence in 2018

In 2018, Easter Sunday and April Fools' Day coincided on April 1st, a rare alignment that last occurred in 1956. Tracy Twyman connects this calendar event to the ancient rites of Attis and the historical "Lady Day" New Year celebrations. The discussion explores how modern holidays retain the structure of ancient death and resurrection cycles, often used by occultists to time significant events or disclosures.

easter· april fools day· lady day· liturgical calendar· resurrection rites

25:03 But then the story goes that she felt bad, she felt guilty. She missed him and so either one to three days later depending on the version she resurrected him and then this is celebrated in the rites of Attis So this would all happen in the same week last week of March ending on April 1st So one day they'd celebrate the castration few days later They celebrate his resurrection And you know again it's all you know, synced up with the similar kinds of death and resurrection rites we have now with Jesus. You know so it's all tied into Easter. So in my story by the way Easter this is true next year Easter and April Fools Day will be the same day April 1st next year is going to be Easter. I utilize that in my story

25:55 We haven't had this kind of confluence of April Fool's Day and Easter since 1956. So I tie that in with my story because, you know the Temple of Mithras was discovered in 1954...I had some important events in the story taking place between those two years so this is like when your reading a story now it's We're kind of recreating things that happened the last time there was an Easter on April Fool's Day. Which, by the way, April Fool's Day is linked up with Easter and with the fact that we used to have in the West...we used to have that as kind of the New Year's day was April 1st for some countries in the West up until I forget it was like 200 or 300 years ago anyway so they still call this day Lady Day

26:49 Or the day that it's linked up with. I know i'm getting something wrong here because, I have to look it up... Lady Day was like maybe the 25th? It's all explained in the book! Okay, Lady Day, April Fools' Day and this other date of celebrating as New Year's Day All these things are linked together The reason why they would call it April Fools' Day is that sort of a joke on people who were still considering you know, the New Year's Day. So a long explanation but anyway that is some of the use of the Cybele symbolism that comes up. Interesting! And there is way more Greg if you have time I can tell you all about Cybele Well I have heard you talk about Cybele a little more and really emphasize this idea being represented by a rock or hermaphroditic rock and I think thats pretty interesting because I like that panspermia perspective

CHAPTER 11 / 22 Discussion

Hermaphroditic Rocks and the Black Stone of Kaaba

The worship of Cybele was centered on a sacred rock, often theorized to be a meteorite or an object of panspermic origin. Some researchers suggest the Black Stone of the Kaaba in Mecca may be related to the original Cybele stone. This concept involves the idea of a "hermaphroditic rock" that fell from heaven, containing the seeds of life and serving as a portal or egg for the manifestation of deities.

panspermia· kaaba· meteorite· agditis· sacred stones

27:48 an asteroid landed here and unpacked itself, an eventually manifested man who will then eventually manifest some tech form. It's a really interesting concept but a lot of people have suggested the Dome on the Rock is just an asteroid and people they kind of laugh about that But if it really was the source of life on Earth, potentially then maybe there's deeper significance there than people realize. But I just liked that idea of the hermaphroditic rock and it could be an asteroid that contained two sexes that built everything we have now so that's kind of weird but I guess I would ask Seibel and Mithras is there some linkage between their? I think so and the things that I found proved it to me The interesting thing is

28:33 I would say modern myth experts and history experts try to debunk the idea that there's any real link between these two cults. But if you go back to the early 20th century and late 19th century, ...the writings that were being done about Mithras back then... And I would suggest Jesse Weston has a good book about this subject- that gets into this subject From Ritual to Romance is good, and then also Franz Kumont wrote several books about Mithras. So if you want to get where I'm getting some of my information that's a good place to go. Anyway here's the idea okay so first of all yes you've got Cybele was worshipped as a rock and

29:20 There's statues of her that they claim work hard from a meteorite you know it stone from heaven that was her and then the made a statue out of her there is also references to her as a rock where. there's no statue involved, you just envision people worshipping a rock which I think is why some authors have theorised that maybe the one at the Kaaba, the black stone of the Kaabah might actually be the Saibel Stone. Because I don't think we have the stone that they were really worshiping as Saibel. I think that has been lost so I do not really know what it looked like but yeah originally there was this idea she is a stone and she fell from heaven

CHAPTER 12 / 22 Discussion

Mithras Emerging from the Rock, Rockefeller Center Symbolism

Mithras is traditionally depicted emerging from a rock holding a knife and a torch, symbolizing his birth into and conquest of the universe. The hosts discuss the Prometheus statue at Rockefeller Center, suggesting it may actually represent Mithras due to its posture of emerging from stone rather than being chained to it. This iconography points to a hidden layer of solar worship and elite alignment with Mithraic traditions in modern public art.

mithras· prometheus· rockefeller center· chris knowles· solar deity

30:06 They link her with this other, I think it's just another name for the same goddess. Another Phrygian name so Agditis is another name for the same person and they described this figure as being originally Hermaphroditic And then the other gods in heaven thought that This creature was a freak and they didn't like it So cut her penis off and then cast her out of heaven. So there you have the idea of the rock, Cybele coming from heaven but it has been castrated now so now it's a goddess and then she gives birth to a son right? And that son is celebrated as Attis But then we also have this other Phrygian god Mithras Now Mithras was born from a rock

30:51 And it's just like, you know as if yeah there is a stone there on the ground that pops open and this guy comes out. He is holding they always show him coming out of the rock holding in one hand a knife and in another hand a torch so he can see... ...you know in the realm that he is coming into So its like the rock is sort of a portal but also an egg It's like there is universe inside that egg And then he comes out and now he's in this universe, and he is the god of this universe. And this is what I found over and over again in the kinds of rituals and myths that I ended up dealing with for this story. That is the story they seem to be telling. Mithras

31:35 Is like and i'm using sort of the most developed versions of the story you know when you got all the different. Lines of influence coming together at the late roman empire when they've taken that person met them next in their own stuff then you get this god who's like saturn but he conquers the sun he conquers all these other gods and he becomes god himself The story of him emerging from the rock and then there's the stories of him you know slaying a bull and. Encountering all these other figures there is always in myth rams a picture of him shaking hands with saul, and then saul kneeling to himself go ahead i just think it's so interesting n.

32:21 I had Chris Knowles on the show not long ago and he was talking about the symbolism of that Prometheus statue at Rockefeller Center or that statue they say is Prometheus. And he was taking a deeper look at it, and how the figure isn't actually chained to the rock but looks like its emerging from it. He was suggesting they're basically hiding this might be actually a statue of Mithras And it does seem like there's a lot of layers to what they're really into deep below the surface. But how should we maybe tie this to modern day? Because I think a lot of people would assume these old traditions and cults would have just died out along with the things they used to partake in, but what suggests its still going on? Clearly Bloomberg has an interest in that Mithras temple but do we see other indications that their still very interested in this stuff?

CHAPTER 13 / 22 Discussion

Mithraic Creation Myths and the Simulation Theory Matrix

Mithraic lore includes a story of the god creating an heir, Phanes, by impregnating a rock, which then produced the Orphic egg or a new universe. Tracy Twyman links this to modern concepts of the "Matrix" or a false reality, often symbolized by the Saturn Cube. The discussion posits that ancient myths of gods breaking out of or creating prison worlds are early descriptions of what we now call virtual reality or computer simulations.

simulation theory· saturn cube· matrix· orphic egg· demiurge

33:12 Oh, yeah. And I'll try to work that into my answer here because i want to sort of add something too what I was just saying about the rock and Mithras okay? The story of Mithras there's a version of it that kind of elaborates on what happens next and how he has his own son He creates his own heir right they say that Mithra hated women and the Mithras cult was an all-male cult And they even, you know the rituals they had the kind of phrases they used in the rituals. You can tell they did not like women

33:49 And so this myth says Mithras himself did not like women, but he wanted an heir. He wanted a son So he ejaculated onto a rock and the rock became pregnant and A child came from that which they say is fannies It's like that the Orphic egg came from that hmm so in orific egg is you know? it's a universe in itself, so what we have here is a story of a God who came from Iraq himself And then went on to create another god and another universe really with the same process of ejaculating onto a rock so ok. This is all interesting because

34:30 I think it ties in with this idea that we're in a matrix or false reality. You mentioned the Saturn cube idea, which is so popular now... Right! The idea that the figure of Saturn whatever he is created some kind of world illusion for us to live and were inside this box Well, you know, I think that's what this story is hinting at about Mithras But of course whoever came up with it wouldn't have known anything about computers or virtual reality or anything. And really that's the version of these ideas that we have now in our reality, but there are a lot of other ways you could picture the same thing kind of happening. We have computers with buttons on them now maybe its something else in another dimension So I think this is story about Mithras breaking out of one false artificial prison world

CHAPTER 14 / 22 Discussion

Billionaires Secretly Funding Research to Exit the Simulation

Mainstream media reports have surfaced regarding a group of Silicon Valley billionaires who are secretly funding scientific research to "break us out" of a suspected computer simulation. Tracy Twyman incorporates this real-world news into her novel, suggesting the elite view the physical world as a construct to be escaped. This "jailbreak" agenda mirrors the Luciferian motif of subverting a creator deity to achieve autonomy outside of a perceived prison planet.

silicon valley· simulation hypothesis· jailbreaking reality· tech billionaires· gnosticism

35:24 And then making his own you know and i think that the elite there's some of them that have the same idea cuz last year you had a story that came out it was in the news. Reprinted in several different you know mainstream newspapers and magazines they all had kind of paraphrase versions of the same story. Are there saying there's a group of billionaires and they wouldn't give it a name it wasn't like a secret society or anything is that as a group of billionaires secret because their secrets are not like a game to the group for anything but they said these billionaires are working secretly on some kinda way to break us out of the matrix they believe we're gonna

36:03 Simulation and they're gonna break us out. And then that story just went nobody addressed it again There was no elaboration on who these guys are or what they're doing It was right around the time story came out just as I'm already writing this story, and I didn't intend on using that idea in my story but it ended up just going there you know, that's where the information led me to And so, you know that's the kind of thing I guess that you know not to spoil it too much but. That is the sort of thing that the villain in my story is aiming towards and using the building as a technology device to do that is part of this story

36:46 Yeah, I really do love those ideas that the elites true plan and agenda is to try to jailbreak this enclosure. It gets into that idea of Subverting the gods you know the whole lucifer motif we see a lot of lucifer symbolism, and it really does get to that place of Wondering is the entity that built this thing as the creator of this construct a positive or negative Entity I know you did a great show with marty leads who? I really like and who is Really become a friend of mine and is a pretty clear proponent of the flat earth model. Of course, Marty is an optimist in our biggest disagreement is about that stuff like Is this creator entity positive or negative if it's a negative entity who has us on some prison planet?

CHAPTER 15 / 22 Discussion

OTO Sex Magic and the Creation of a Homunculus

Tracy Twyman discusses her research into the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) and the rituals of Aleister Crowley, specifically regarding the creation of a homunculus through sex magic. These practices involve "unnatural births" intended to ensnare souls or create miniature universes. The discussion suggests that these magical technologies are used by the elite to siphon energy from the current world to fuel their own ascendance or the creation of a new reality.

aleister crowley· o.t.o.· sex magic· homunculus· alchemy

37:34 Arconic energy farm then maybe the elites plan to jailbreak it isn't so bad but if it is supposed to be some paradise crafted by an altruistic being then they're definitely up to no good. So, its really just depends on how you view the moral alignments of these characters Well, I think that what i ended up finding in my research because i got deep into the secrets of the OTO for instance. I mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen things that only a handful of people on earth have seen other than you know other OTO initiates not very many non-initiates have seen what I've seen and yeah so I got into researching The Rituals Of Alistair Crowley

38:21 and the kind of stuff that he was into, and also just alchemy which you know I've been looking at sort of bewilderedly for years and trying to make head or tail off. I figured out years ago that it involves some recipe of human blood and body parts and things like that and a human soul utilizing all this stuff somehow. But it seems to me what I found is a technology, a magical technology And I'm not saying i know all the ins and outs of how it works but deconstructed the symbolism. Of these secret rituals and recipes, and they're talking about ways of creating your own universe

39:01 and destroying the one you're in now. And you could actually just look at it as, You are trying to break out of the prison you're in now and in the process you'll probably end up destroying... ...the one that you came from So I believe that I found secret encoded magical instructions on how to become your own god. And in the process you either destroy or imprison Or its kind of can be seen as both The world that you come from and you know, you can see this when you look at some of the things that are easy to find our equinox of the gods ritual. That's your engages in there is writings that alistair crowley had about creating a homunculus right through sex magic

39:51 and usually involves some kind of unnatural birth. His idea, what he thought would be the most potent way to do it would be somehow impregnate an anus and have an anal birth So that all made its way into the story gotta warn you guys is pretty gruesome but and it's definitely something that Alistair Crowley was writing about right and when he's talking about an anal birth he's talking about the anal birth of a universe. And totally totally wrote about that in his diaries if you look so you know this

40:28 I guess the question of whether it's bad or good for us to be in a prison, i don't think that there is an answer to that. You know depends on what side you're on, in or out right? So if your'e on the outside and have a little snow globe that entertains you then you like it and think its good but if your'e in the snow globe then realize that your world is fake you might not like it. Right And especially if you realized this what I think is happening That is either created by the god and also possibly the world that he leaves and a sense to you know to become higher than i think those worlds can be used. Is batteries machines creating energy for you so i think thats going on now and you know to this extent that we have

CHAPTER 16 / 22 Discussion

Conquering of the Sun Ritual and the Ages of Gods

The "Conquering of the Sun" is a recurring motif in Greek and Gnostic creation myths where successive generations of gods overthrow their predecessors to initiate new Aeons. This cycle includes Uranus being castrated by Saturn, and Saturn being usurped by Zeus. Twyman explains that these myths represent the shifting of cosmic power and the establishment of different "Suns" or primary deities that govern specific epochs of human history.

aeons· gnosticism· uranus· zeus· golden age

41:21 energy being siphoned out of our world and given to someone else on the outside, that means that we are slaves. And so from that perspective it seems bad but I don't think there's any way to escape it without doing that to somebody else. That is pretty dark! Does this all culminate in what you're calling The Conquering Of The Sun Ritual? Can you detail that piece for us? Yeah yeah This is a concept that I just found in all of the Greek creation myths and you can pretty much find it in a lot of the older, major cultures' creation myths. And then its alchemy. It's almost in all of the alchemical pictures and manuscripts So what it is... The idea that each cycle... You know the Greeks for instance broke everything down into ages The Gnostics called these things Aeons

42:22 And each of these cycles had a different major god that was in charge of everything. So the Greeks have these stories, first you have Ouranos and Gaia so you have heaven and earth then they split apart... ...and in the space between them, then these other cycles occur Uranus is overthrown in the process of being split apart from his mate And then, see I'll try not to get too detailed here but that story is about... Okay Uranus and Gaia originally are one hermaphroditic being.

43:01 And they're kind of like having sex constantly, you know? And having children. They're engendering children inside the womb of the female half of being but then those children cannot get out and so... The story-the myth tells about how Uranus was afraid that he was going to be usurped by one his children and so he didn't want them to be born And then they tell the story of how Gaia gave Saturn or Kronos, you know one of the children inside her a knife to use to castrate their father and that's how Uranus gets overthrown by Saturn. Right! Then they say that heaven and earth got separated and that's how creation exists and it will cease existing if they ever come back together again somehow. Then they say that Atlas

43:52 who is one of the Titans, was punished with the burden of holding up Heaven and Earth. Now you've got this story that goes on... so first you got the era of the Titans ruled over by Kronos and that's remembered as being The Golden Age then you have Saturn overthrown by Zeus and the Titans are said to be locked in Tartarus And like i said they're still there supposedly there's no live their underneath us somehow so i going through this story here and incorporating it into my fiction story. And i realized you know i thought well,

CHAPTER 17 / 22 Discussion

Solar Halo Symbolism and the Trapping of Souls

Christian iconography often utilizes the solar halo, which Twyman argues is a continuation of ancient sun worship and the "Conquering of the Sun" ritual. She claims that hermetic traditions involve trapping supernatural entities and human souls within "carnal containers" or golems. This process is described as a form of spiritual kidnapping where magicians seduce entities into the physical realm to serve as batteries for their own power.

solar halo· christianity· paganism· soul harvesting· carnal containers

44:35 Okay, Zeus was the main God then during the Olympian period. Did they ever say that Zeus got overthrown by anyone? And at first I'm thinking well that's dumb because the Greeks would never have said that you know he was their god so it'd be like us saying oh god is dead which we did say that. So maybe there is a comparison there but anyway actually they do have some specifics about who would have been Zeus' heir and they say that it was Apollo who was a sun god. And this caused me to think, well okay people always compare Christianity to sun worship and Jesus is always depicted as the Sun or having kind of a solar halo behind his head and then all these Christian rituals are

45:22 you know, timed to old pagan holidays usually having to do with whatever the sun's doing at that part of the year. You know equinoxes and solstices and things like that so we definitely have kind of a solar worship going on now. Absolutely! But I wondered everyone says that's the ancient worship of the ancient peoples but then they were worshiping Jupiter To try to tighten everything up I just it occurred to me that maybe this position of main God can be likened to the Sun and that we have Different cycles in which someone else plays the role of the Sun. Yeah, I Could see that. I mean it's it's pretty deep stuff And as were getting to kind of a halfway point here I wanted to read something from this great post you have on your blog called mad love and it kind of

46:16 ties in a lot of the stuff that we've talked about so far. But you say, I have revealed a number of symbols some of them treasured as concealing great spiritual mysteries and the hermetic traditions of Western occultism which all seems to be related to the ideas of raping children consuming human flesh and using the bodies of victims both dead and alive to breed supernatural entities golems, homunculi and many other things The souls that are incarnated in these rites are ensnared by the magicians performing them, seduced into coming into our world and then trapped inside of a carnal container of some sort.

46:57 And that is freaky stuff but it is in line with what a lot of people think is going on. I guess do you have any idea what happens next or what happens to these beings once they're trapped are created and how they're used? Obviously our world goes on without a lot of people knowing about this so, like, I don't know how epic it is but... Do we know how far this goes beyond the stories of Crowley we've heard, maybe something in the last hundred years? Well okay I have my own theories and you know anyone's free to just make up whatever they want i guess but basically I think that when I'm talking about this ritual of conquering the sun that ties in here because I saw this being depicted in like I said alchemical stories

CHAPTER 18 / 22 Discussion

Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain and Alchemical Sacrifice

Alejandro Jodorowsky's film *The Holy Mountain* serves as an alchemical allegory for killing and regenerating the seven planetary archons. Based on the 17th-century text *The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz*, the process involves sacrificing human hosts to release the spirits of the gods, which are then used to create a new sun and moon. This ritualistic destruction and rebirth is the method by which a master alchemist supposedly creates a private universe.

alejandro jodorowsky· the holy mountain· chemical wedding· archons· alchemy

47:55 Kind of fictional versions of the old alchemical stories that have been utilized in modern times. Well, I'll tell you about Jodorowsky's film The Holy Mountain this really kind of spelled it out to me I thought I was seeing this pattern and then I watched his film again And like oh yeah That's totally what's going on because his film he sees open about it You know It's an alchemical allegory and he says is based on Two things. The Invisible Mountain book by DeMalle, forgetting the name of it now... It's called the... Maybe it's called The Invisible Mountain or something? No! It's called Mount Analog. Okay and then he's got this other one that he based on which is Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz So both Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain and its inspiration which is this book from the 1600s called The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz maybe in 1700s Anyway, the story

48:49 is about killing the seven archons, the seven planetary deities that the ancients thought of as being in control of our whole world. And killing them and then regenerating them so in both The Christian Rosenkrantz Story and Jodorowsky's movie you have people that are like embodying they have the spirits of these gods inside of them And then they are killed or sacrificed. And then it's implied that a master alchemist can regenerate them, you're literally melting down their bodies, separating their souls using the blood and body material changing it alchemically through different scientific processes and then using that to form new bodies of hosts that will hold these spirits of ones that you've just sacrificed

49:50 And then you make them into a new sun and a new moon, which in the Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz they're depicted as just having human bodies. They are a new sun and a new moon and they become the new king and queen of the universe... ...and they generate, breed and create the other five classical planets, the other five gods. There you have the gods of a new universe so This is how I think it's done. You have to somehow entice the spirits of the seven gods down from their seats in the heavens and get them to come into human bodies, and then you can trap them—and yes, sacrifice them—and use those spirits then to make your own universe." And that's

50:41 It's kind of the story I'm telling. Yeah, it's so interesting but it's that last part creating your own universe that...I don't know, maybe I just don't see them because I don't recognize them or maybe I can't tell what reality would be without this kind of magic going on in the Masonic basements all over the place but have they made their own universe? I guess they kinda have depends on how you look at it Will we yeah we wouldn't know i mean that they might have a whole bunch of them we might be in one of the now. Well and the way i'm envisioning it's almost like you could be in one of them and you can create some more either inside or you could try to get out and create some more on the outside and finding what is inside and outside becomes very difficult at that point it becomes relative doesn't it does and this is something i think is no true like he can really,

CHAPTER 19 / 22 Discussion

Atlas Symbolism and the Inefficient Machine of Reality

The myth of Atlas holding up the world is interpreted as a metaphor for the masses supporting the "illusionary constructs" of the elite, such as debt-based currency and contract law. Twyman suggests that the feeling of life being an "inefficient machine" is evidence of energy being siphoned by higher entities. This systemic "leak" in the vessel of reality ensures that humans remain in a state of perpetual struggle while their output feeds a hidden hierarchy.

atlas· tartarus· energy siphoning· economic slavery· mind control

51:37 Get a real perspective on what's up or down or in and out at a certain point you know when you break down these stories. Down to their basics things become very confusing i mean how is it that saturn, is the god of the highest realm up in the heavens but at the same time he's trapped in tartarus supposedly beneath us yeah so if you know i thought about as The best you can do probably is just with the memories that you have in your own culture try to arrange them chronologically and then view it as one thing stacked on top of another so we right now were on top of target supposedly well that's got the remains. Of the golden age in its you know its got the remains of that other

52:28 Universe, but we're on top of it and that I think is part of the symbolism of Atlas holding things up. You know Whoever's on the bottom of something else is you know by definition holding up the stuff on top so this gets into the symbolism that you find in Christianity and Freemasonry We've got the cornerstone And you know yeah the idea of this sacred place that's the foundation of something, you know whatever is on top of it. Another thing too is like this idea that we're slaves part of the slavery is that were holding up to the world that are set on top of us right so I think we experience this this is just me theorizing just pontificating making stuff but this is how I feel because we experienced

53:21 in terms of how hard our lives seem to be. And does it ever seem to you like the whole world is an inefficient machine? You're putting in so much work and getting so little out of it, and by definition a machine should give you more product for the work that you put in. It should be increasing value somehow. Well, it feels to us like we just got value flying out the window. We can't figure out where it's going And that to me is a sign that there is someone else sucking the juice off the top of us. We just keep trying and trying but we can't make it. There's this story about in Tartarus, I think they're called the Nereids or something? There are these three women whose punishment is holding these jars of water

54:10 and they're constantly trying to fill the jars of water but there's a hole in the bottom of them so they're constantly leaking, so they'll never win. And that's how I think we are here in our universe That is evidence that there's something else There's a leak in the vessel somehow But it's all part of the design, you know? Absolutely. And I love that you said we're holding up the illusionary constructs because that's the kind of symbolism that I take in when we're talking about created universes or false realities. That's what these things are. We're the ones holding up

54:46 The things were bound to like contract law or debt based currency and economic slavery these are all illusions that we know our illusionary but we buy into them we live our life determined by them and sure enough none of them are natural they're all created by thes. Potentially a cultist at the top of the pyramid and so if you want indications that their magic is working look at the god damn mind control and the spell are all under that we literally don't do anything on this planet without green paper so maybe we should look at those green paper printers but.

CHAPTER 20 / 22 Discussion

Higher Side Chats Outro, Armenia Trip, and Upcoming Topics

Greg Carlwood wraps up the interview with Tracy Twyman, promoting her website and novel *Genuflect*. He reflects on his recent trip to Armenia with Graham Hancock, specifically mentioning the Garni Temple and its connection to Mithraic sun worship. Carlwood also teases future discussions on the "artificial crystal" sun theory and the work of Anatoly Fomenko regarding the "New Chronology" of human history.

greg carlwood· tracy twyman· garni temple· graham hancock· armenia

55:22 Man, this has been a great time and I'm not surprised. We didn't even touch on the Clintons using their voodoo knowledge to curse Haiti twice with an earthquake and hurricane in a tug of war they're having with voodoo priests or Arthur C Clarke allegedly picking up boys at the ping pong tables of The Otters Aquatic Club but there's obviously a lot more meat on these bones and we'll definitely have to do a future show about the flat earth and the symbolism around the sun being a false construct that's interesting to me but But man, for the listeners if they are interested in this sort of stuff. Genuflect is a provocative fictionalized story that does a great deal to flesh out what might be behind a lot of these things that we only have pieces of in the conspiracy world and of course your blog is great too let them know where to go If they want to get further into this stuff We talked about today Okay so The Center Of Twyman World Is TracyTwyman.com

56:17 which I'm going to try to keep updated more and more. And then you can find all my books on Amazon, and that got a YouTube channel and some other stuff but you can find all links to everything if you just go to Tracy Twyman dot com at T-R-A-C-Y-T-W-Y M-A-N dot com. Awesome! There it is again Tracy big thanks interesting as always keep doing what you do i'm sure we'll be doing this again great thanks a lot Greg You've Got It Boom goes the dynamite, Tracy Twyman people. Let her hear it! Straight into the deep end of the pool The belief systems and occult traditions and rituals of the elite That nexus is one of my favorite things to do episodes about It's clear we can see some ritualized elements of major events date and number coordination So we know there's something there but it's really hard to know what

57:13 Is there even a homogenized esoteric belief system among the elite? Or maybe there's many, with an infinite number of ways to interpret each one. So it's tough." I do like that this show coordinated with a few other THC things recently for PLUS members who listened to my breakdown of the Consciousness Conference lectures. That Bloomberg smart building plan probably sounds a little familiar Also, I'm 95% sure that the point Chris Knowles was making about the Prometheus statue at Rockefeller Center when we talked to him a few months ago was that he thought it was a cover story for an actual tribute to Mithras. So i do think some dots are being connected with this one... big dots! In fact if you remember the Armenia footage I put out from the trip with Graham Hancock that I took

58:02 One of the sites in that first video is Garni Temple. It's the only active, still standing pagan temple in Armenia and it was actually built they believe to venerate I believe its pronounced Mir but that's the sun god in Armenian mythology which is most heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism and that sungod is basically an equivalent to Mithra So, two plus bonus tie-ins here. Although I can't pretend to know what it all means but I love to hear researchers make their case for the threads they pull The idea of different sun gods actually representing different qualities of the Sun or actually different suns is pretty wild But it's so hard to know what the hidden truth is behind all this mythology and symbolism It's something to think about...it might even tie into the whole Saturn Sun theory

CHAPTER 21 / 22 Discussion

THC Plus Membership and Recent Guest Recap

The host encourages listeners to sign up for the THC Plus membership to access second-hour segments and bonus content. He recaps a month of diverse programming featuring Matt Landman on geoengineering, Steven Strong on "Out of Africa" theories, Magnora 7 on the Rothschilds in Africa, and JM DeBoer on dreams. The segment concludes with a mention of new "Bioshock" inspired merchandise available at the show's online store.

matt landman· steven strong· magnora 7· jm deboer· higher side chats

58:57 The Electric Universe Model. And who knows what kind of time depths we're really talking about? I definitely don't think it's all as simple as Luciferian Satanists trying to undermine the Christian God, so don't even bother typing that YouTube comment you don't need to conspirisplain this stuff to me i've heard It! It's just so funny how people think they have it all figured out when they really have probably barely scratched the surface. I would never be so arrogant as to say I know from the outside looking in It's too complex and I've made this point before too, but I was hiking in Denver clearly high in more ways than one. And I was looking at all the geometric shapes made by people shoes and the dirt mud and it just kind of occurred to me that if we were all wiped out and someone discovered these tracks they might be like

59:45 Oh my god, these people were so enlightened. Everywhere they went they used the energy provided by sacred geometry to create vortexes under their feet and they clearly knew what they were doing! They were clearly SO evolved... You know? Meanwhile, we're just a bunch of idiots wearing Nikes It's just an example of how difficult it is to interpret something old with little or no context And in the case of The Elite Secret Religion Something there purposefully being deceptive about But I hope we gave you something to chew on. Tracy's book, Genuflect is really intriguing a dark conspiracy enthusiast Da Vinci code that's what i would say and I also love the concepts of the elite trying to jailbreak this environment that's A lot of fun it doesn't necessarily mean they're doing it for our benefit I always hear people say why are you being an apologist for the elite thinking That you support them against God? And its like whoa whoa whoa

1:00:41 Maybe the creator god is a tyrant and a bunch of tyrants are trying to out asshole the guy. Meanwhile, the masses play with fucking fidget spinners and wait for a new Game Of Thrones The Game Of Thrones is happening people! And you're missing the whole damn thing But if Tracy wants to do another episode about the Sun being some type of artificial crystal I am probably down to do that Soon enough, it seems like we're going to have a female crow on our hands here. But let me know if you want me to get her back on and go deeper into that rabbit hole? Clearly the Plus show was getting way out there! I really didn't want it to end. We got into Tracy's thoughts and interpretations of the strange symbols and phrases we saw during the Pizzagate spirit cooking season

1:01:24 We talked about some further revelations and understandings of Baphomet that Tracy has come to, why Johnny Depp cutting off the tip of his own finger might have deeper related significance. We talked about John D., Diamonds & Superman, the work of Anatoly Fomenko and The New Chronology folks! And why humans in the past might not have known the color blue? Oh we went for it so... Of course you might want to sign up for THC Plus and hear that extra hour You can check out that conference breakdown, watch the first Armenia video go through the archives and it's five bucks. Join the club! But we did it crazy month for me for sure so much going on and I still got those five shows out. I think it was a great month for The Higher Side Matt Landman Chemtrails & Geoengineering Steven Strong with the Out of Africa stuff Magnora 7 with the Rothschilds carving up Africa and Cecil Rhodes and De Beers stuff

1:02:21 JM DeBoer on Dreams and then Tracy Twyman on Ancient, Elite, Occult Orders and the Conquering of the Sun Ritual. Lots of diverse topics with great guests And if you don't have THC Plus for five bucks You could go and get the second half of all those shows and more I think the extra hours are definitely worth a dollar! They also allow me to buy higher quality meat when you sign up But who cares about me? You do it for you. But that's about it! Oh, there is also a new Hireside Chats shirt at thehiresideclothing.com Three symbols that represent conspiracy paranormal and the occult A Bioshock inspired theme And I really love it People have been asking for a shirt that actually says The Hireside Chats For awhile now...and we haven't had one because I just like shirts that are ABOUT something

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Closing Music, Behind Blue Eyes Parody

The episode concludes with a parody of The Who's "Behind Blue Eyes," featuring lyrics modified to reference The Higher Side Chats (THC) and the exposure of the "bad man." The host gives a final sign-off, challenging "mystery cults, esoteric elites, and reality weavers" before the music fades out.

the who· behind blue eyes· parody· podcast outro· mystery cults

1:03:12 But either way, new logo shirts are pretty cool. And again big thanks to Tracy and I'll see you guys soon! Thanks for listening, I've done what I can Your move mystery cults esoteric elites and reality weavers your fucking move No one knows what it's like To be the bad man To be the sad man Behind blue eyes And no one knows What it's like

1:03:49 To be hated, to be fated. To telling only lies But my dreams aren't as empty As my conscience seems to be I have hour only lonely Since they exposed me

1:04:27 On THC No one knows what it's like To feel these feelings Like I do And I blame you! No one bites back as hard on their anger None of my pain and woe can show through But my dreams aren't as empty

1:05:13 As my conscience seems to be I have hours always lonely Since they exposed me in THC But my dreams aren't as empty

1:06:19 As my conscience seems to be I have hours, always lonely Since they exposed me on THC No one knows what it's like To be the bad man, to be the sad man Behind me