THC 53: Kent Bain | The Occult Script Of 9/11, Aurora, & Sandy Hook

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire for a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats What's happening higher side chatters drink a little drink smoking a little smoke. I'm Greg Carlwood doing what I do in sunny Sandy Welcome to THC today Our guest is going to be Kent Bain who wrote the book the most dangerous book in the world 9-11 as a mass ritual As well as a few follow ups connecting the occult dots and some of the more recent tragedies at 2012

00:51 But before we take that serious double axle swan dive into the depths of Satan's asshole, we gotta get some positive vibes flowing. And with me today for filling just such a need after a fairly long hiatus is the ever groovy Adam Gouraille. Adam man hows it going? Hey hows it goin'? Hey its going well I'm trying to test out these headphones my cat was chewing on them and I don't know if he chewed on them too much or not enough Damn cats. I think they'll work one side's kind of messed up, but i'm deaf in one ear so that's fine Yeah, I got a cat shoes on all kinds of shit They're awesome yeah lot less maintenance than dogs oh yeah or kids right? Yeah, I don't even think about that But if your cat dies you don't go to jail Yeah, so anyway You got any further on those book projects you want to talk about them at all

01:41 Yeah, they're coming along. There's a few of them kind of related to a bunch of materials on discordianism that were passed on to me so there's going to be a book on the history of discordianism and some other rarities For people who don't know discordianism, it's kind of hard to talk about some of this stuff without having folks' eyes gloss over. But for those into discordianism it's going to be some pretty cool stuff coming out here in the next couple years. So is discordianism a philosophy? Is it a point-of-view? Is it a cult or religion?

02:25 all as just kind of an in-joke between them and as time progressed, when they got into the 60s other people got involved with it. It became kinda like a surrealist art movement in a sense And what Discordianism is...is the worship of the Greek goddess of chaos and discord, Ares

03:09 It's different for everybody, and anybody can join the religion and become a pope and start their own branch of discordianism. My handle in discordianism is The Wrong Reverend Houdini Kundalini Of The Church Of Unwavering Indifference." Yeah it definitely has a sense of humor! It seems like yeah almost like a joke in some sense because you start looking at this you're like what IS this? You know I dug into it a little bit...I'm like what is this?! And it all just seems to Be jokes, you know? Well perhaps but Kerry Thornley who was the co-founder of Discordianism

03:48 had later on in his life, he thought that he really might have been stirring up some chaotic forces that he hadn't intend to deal with. I got into all this stuff when I was writing my book The Prankster and the Conspiracy Researching Thornley's connection to the JFK assassination. I didn't know a lot about discordianism then But that's how I kind of got introduced to it. Then a few years back, fellow Bob Newport who was another co-founder of Discordianism had all the original Discordian archive files of Greg Hill who was the main dude behind Discordianism and those were passed on to me and so this has resulted in all these different projects but with Kerry Thornley you know he

04:46 new Oswald in the Marines was actually writing a book about Oswald prior to the JFK assassination, and then later Thornley became- was indicted by Jim Garrison. Garrison claimed that Thornley was one of the involved in that whole nexus of spooks in New Orleans that Garrison claimed were behind the JFK assassination and Garrison later suspected that the discord in society with some kind of crazy CIA front and assassination Bureau Sam Thornton Lee helped promote these theories when Garrison had somebody on his staff who believed that the Bavarian Illuminati was also involved in the assassination when Thornley heard this, you know back in the late

05:41 60s when Garrison was after his ass, he started promoting these theories that the Discordian Society was somehow involved with the Bavarian Illuminati. All this craziness later came and bit Cary on the ass you know all this discordanism came full circle A lot of chaos and nuttiness entered his life. Later on, even after the Garrison investigation he came to realize that maybe Garrison was on the right track and that Kerry had been unwittingly sucked into this JFK assassination conspiracy. Damn! That's a crazy story. It is in my book The Prankster and The Conspiracy

06:32 And this latest project I'm working on, tentatively called Caught in the Crossfire. Kerry Thornley and the Garrison investigation gets into all of this a bit deeper. Very cool! Do you have any idea when that's going to be out? You still working on it? It's first draft...it's completed and i'm actually conversing with the publisher today about it so we'll see , Yeah, looks like it's about that time. Kent is probably waiting for a ring which means it's conspiracy t-shirt plug in time with conspirates.net How are yours working out for you man? The squid of power I know you've had it on It has got a pretty definite hypnotic effect on beautiful women Have you been experiencing that? Yeah the chicks dig it Very awesome man

09:22 Lucky for us stupid stoners, today's guest Kent Bain has penetrated layers of the 9-11 onion I didn't even know were there which he detailed at length in his new book entitled The Most Dangerous Book In The World. 9-11 As A Mass Ritual and he is here with Adam Gouraille to demystify some stranger aspects of that tragic event. Kent welcome to THC Thank you. It's good to be with you absolutely yeah, I really appreciate your being here it's a pleasure the book is fascinating with an entertaining and humorous tone Not to mention connection after connection the ritualistic in occult aspects of events This is an area I've been really interested in lately But it's tough to understand a language You don't speak you know And I don't have much of a foundation for occult meaning and symbolism so

10:05 End up just trying to put things together like a kid trying to make a baby with two Barbie dolls You know just awkwardly banging them together trying to figure out how this shit works But I mean let's start with you though man as I understand it. You didn't come to the events in 9-11 with a background and this stuff either So how long was that process? What were the first few odd threads he started pulling that really made this whole angle unravel for ya, so Well, I didn't...you're right. I didn't come to the scene with a background in the occult or in symbolism or anything of that nature and as a matter of fact that came to the whole 9-11 truth movement later than most.

10:45 I really began to pick up on some threads that were significant and dig deeper. I was asleep at the wheel for a long time and then coming to it so late, I really had the benefit of a lot of good research that had already been done. And a lot of people that have already begun to explore the area of the occult with relation to 9-11. So there were a lot of things that I could

11:21 There were a lot of pieces of the puzzle laying around for me to pull together, so it wasn't all original research or original thinking on my part. And I acknowledge that in the book and then always like to mention that in interviews is this was a big collaboration on the part of dozens and dozens of people but I've never actually met but whose work I've drawn from. So it was like I guess a crowdsourcing effort I came to it really trying to make sense of a lot of the individual pieces of evidence that don't fit, that seem suspicious. And after I'd encountered enough of them, I thought there's got to be an explanation for this and I'll look into it and just make it all go away so I can sleep better at night but entirely the opposite happened. The more that I dug around and looked into

12:16 the more evidence of that nature was there and the uglier the picture got, and then as I did research into the occult and began to figure out what was going on and have some sense of it. And I began to research occult ritual and psychological warfare. Um...I had to do a quick study in a lot of different topics including astro-theology and occult symbolism so it was uh... a huge crash course for me and i've um... you know what i tried to do in the book was not inundate the reader with too much about any particular subject and you know too much about numerology or the astrology but just just enough understand they what are referred to as the occult script

13:03 for 9-11, so even if a reader or listener comes to it completely fresh there's enough there that you'll understand it. I set the context for the entire discussion and then kind of background people on the specific symbols that are used and so forth. But it was certainly an eye-opening experience for me, a real journey educational process And I try to make it an easier experience for the reader and then also throw in heavy doses of humor because it's such a difficult and heavy subject

13:42 You know, I wouldn't want to read a completely serious book on this subject and another thing. I'll just point out is that As I got into it there was there were definite just heavy overtones of dark humor black humor throughout the This occult script and we can touch on that a bit as we go forward but yeah humor I mean, you couldn't write in a completely serious way about something that entailed so much dark humor that was used for the purpose of mockery and not—I suppose the entertainment of those who orchestrated this event. But yeah, that's kind of the long process that I went through. Yeah, I love the tone of the book because you're presenting such heavy

14:35 information, a lot of it has you know you gotta give some history to it and then your just kinda like there's one connection if that is not enough here another one and here's another one do with this what you will I like that matter-of-fact tone because its such... your dealing with dark material and uh... you're just kind of like well connection after connection. Do whatever you want with it It's good! Its great read Well, the cumulative weight of the evidence is what's convincing. And when you have to lay out a lot of different dots and then connect them that can be a bit tedious but the reward, the payoff is worth it because when you pay attention long enough and look at the dots and recognize patterns and see connections then you start seeing this framework or architecture

15:27 for the event and I know, not just in an entirely joking manner refer to it as the occult script because it was highly scripted. And who knows if they all had a playbook they were all reading from but that wouldn't be too far-fetched because you can reconstruct the script in a very detailed way and it was the result of You know, a lot of creativity and hard work. And blood sweat and tears Well, let's look at some of these dots under the microscope. I mean, I would say that one of the occult connections that I've heard addressed most before your book was The Twin Towers were a modern representation of the Pillars of Hermes which never really meant anything to me but your book spends a good amount of time on this Can you explain to people some of the justification for this connection other than them just being two structures with similar phallic form? There is little more to it right

16:26 Well, there's a lot more to it. And what you'll find with the symbols if you just look into them in general various symbols including the Pentagon and the Pillars of Hermes, they'll have multiple interpretations and meanings depending on the time period context who is Utilizing the symbols. Of course with 9-11 we're dealing with a really up a black mass like magic ritual so where would use the I guess the dark interpretation or connotation of the symbols but the with the pillars of Hermes and

17:07 You could also see the twin towers as massive concrete and steel representations of the Twin Pillars of Freemasonry. With a lot of symbols, even if you're just considering the dark arts there are multiple layered references so it's not just one thing. I tend to think they get additional points for that type of thing, you know when they're looking at these rituals and patting each other on the back. But there are multiple references, multiple interpretations that I go through in the book about the

17:51 significance of the pillars of Hermes, specifically Hermes as a god of commerce, god of trade, God of trickery. And it's in part an invocation of the trickster archetype and of course 9-11 was a gigantic false flag act of just mass trickery and so what they were doing was invoking the god of trickery, the trickster himself Hermes who is also recognized as Thoth or various other deities but with the pillars of Hermes they weren't just supersized symbols

18:43 uh... that they were uh... and they were used in a way to and invoke of the spirit of these this particular deity and we needa make a little specified note here the uh... you know when just like their can be multiple interpretation for the symbol they can be invoking different deities with the same symbol or what the same act until where they're invoking her me is of course when you stand back and take do come a meta analysis on the entire days event i mean it's it has strong luciferian satanic overtones but uh... the uh... you know there's again this is

19:28 it's really complicated textured very sophisticated and you know the even though we could view as a luciferian mega ritual is not exclusively so so they therein their invoking these dvds in late may pay homage to and worship multiple deities army's being chief among them And so that was, you know in a sense declaring the overall nature of the day's events because the Twin Towers were the first objects mass symbols that were utilized and invoked that day. Of course they went on to be used as I cover in several chapters as mass altars or sacrificial vessels

20:15 So you start to drill and drill down further and further, peel the onion. There are lots of different layers but it's not super sophisticated you just have to take in a methodical fashion Well, I think that's what makes it so hard to swallow for some people because we're used to an A-B connection and this is kind of like a spider web of connections. And so people are like well what does it represent? Does it represent this or does it represent this? If you can't tell them one or the other they don't really understand the occult things but to me its almost like

20:55 The one problem with it or criticism is almost like a horoscope and that it can be Interpreted multiple ways. It can be fairly vague so it's sort of up to the the individual to kind of To make those connections decide if they're if they're strong enough connections to see something, but I mean when you pile them on By the tons. You know you got a look at and say can we can there really just be all these coincidences? Too too occult symbolism it seems that seems a little bit far-fetched there But one interesting aspect to the twin towers is that when you go into it It almost seems like and it's a scary thought but it seems like

21:35 This plan might have been in action for a long time, like almost to the building of the towers themselves if possible. I'm you know how it several years ago? I would've laughed at that idea right yeah but it seems like health But like you first said at the beginning of the interview, the conclusions are difficult to grasp and wrestle with because it's when you layer all the evidence. draw the connections and then let the evidence tell the story, and then base the conclusions on that. That's when you have trouble making things go away and dispelling them because you're left with really uncomfortable conclusions that conflict with your... in many instances with your worldview and the way that you perceive how the world operates. You really don't want to think about a group of people

22:32 with such psychopathic character having such power and influence that not only can they pull off a massive false flag attack and not a single person go to jail but then on top of that the very same set of events is somehow orchestrated as a super sophisticated occult ritual mind control operation. To think about those types of individuals being able to manipulate us, manipulate our But our democracy, our republic, the institutions of government and power essentially are a

23:10 with no limitations on what they can accomplish, that's really scary. And most people want to dismiss it and of course you start to get over into this commonly held stereotype of the New World Order and the sort of James Bond mad scientist who's got this plan to rule the world, and so you're left with some really challenging conclusions. But the evidence is what forced me to draw some of these conclusions and I still wrestle with the implications, and I think most people do

23:57 And then further, once you start to examine some of these issues and think about the possible implications then your left with not a lot of good ideas for what to do about it. It's not as if you see the problem and immediately have dozens of ideas how to combat or overcome the power structure So it's not fun reading and it's not any fun once you get through reading. Let's look at some of the examples, because one of the things that I thought was really interesting—this definitely raised some eyebrows—is you have a section called The 11-Year Countdown which starts with Bush Sr.'s speech on 9-11 of 1990. That Bush speech that everyone talks about is where he mentions the New World Order and that is literally eleven years to today! And then another interesting side note

25:01 the building that is being built at ground zero now is called one world trade center and I mean there it is you know, and also another thing you point out in the book is that has 1776 stories and 1776 is the year the Illuminati was formed. Wow! You know if that doesn't give you a conspiracy boner are you alive? Well, yeah. So Poppy Bush announces it and then 11 years later it happens and then 11 years after that we get Benghazi and they're milking that for all its worth I mean the um... of course the eleven is connected with uh... between powers and it's one of the numbers of power that are incorporated into the whole ritual when

25:47 It's the number of magic and Aleister Crowley claimed it as his number. Like you said, if you don't know the language then you're not going to understand any of this. But when you understand how important all the numbers and symbols are that is literally part of a language that they use in a way that they communicate with each other in plain sight. That's how they do these things. They don't just orchestrate them in secret i mean they'd be part of uh... what makes these mass public rituals so compelling and so exciting for them that they they do them and they're leaving these clothes addition right out in front of us but because

26:39 A vast virus database has been updated. Talk about it a bit in the book because of symbol illiteracy, we don't see these things we just see buildings, we just see planes We don't know to pay attention to the numbers or to the constructs The buildings themselves and so they can perform these gigantic rituals right before us We're none the wiser, so the 11 being used repeatedly at various points throughout the ritual

27:16 that's a constant, and that something that... At some point I just quit paying attention. I found enough 11s to convince myself that was one of their key numbers and then I just quit chronicling the appearance of the 11 because you can really get carried away with that. Of course you can get carried away with numerology and you can find 11 in everything but this, of course, the flight number of the plane that hit the first tower and then you kind of go down a list in importance from there, but it was definitely one of the numerical stars of the day. Hey Kent I have a question. You talk about these mass rituals when we can go back to the JFK assassination all the way through 9-11 and recent shootings

28:15 There's a form of mind control that you hear about in conspiracy lore called trauma-based mind control. We're talking about subjects, Manchurian candidate types who use this type of trauma-based mind control to basically control the victim. Do you think this is what's happening on a larger scale? It's another form of trauma based mind control to condition and program folks using these things like once again, the JFK assassination or 9 11

28:51 Yeah, absolutely. And you know what I wanted to do with the book was use 9-11 as really a case study for those that aren't familiar with these mass rituals and then once you see the architecture of the mass rituals then of course you can look backwards or forwards and we've got the most recent example of Sandy Hook and 9-11 is the grandest example that uh... so it was a good case study but certainly you can use it to then begin to backtracked other rituals and that to your point about the travel-based mind control

29:31 or psychological programming, what they found the practitioners of these mind control experiments was that the occult aspects of the rituals were most effective in producing trauma. They created generated maximum trauma for the victim and therefore maximum susceptibility to the subsequent programming And we can take that and apply it to the scale of mass consciousness, to the general public, the global public. You know, and view the media as the conduit through which they're generating this psychological trauma on a scale of global consciousness. So you're dead on that is... It is a form of mass trauma-based mind control. It's in a gigantic psychological warfare operation

30:28 And then, you know it's of course didn't just traumatize the nation on one day. I mean that you have so many different cues from the images that are you know showed repeatedly on television too. You know just the... there are so many things that conjure up the pain over and over again, and we were treated to a big round of it on the 10th anniversary year before last. It is just documentaries and news programs and special editions of magazines they they continue to use that tool and bring it back up in you know generate further injury keep that wound open to keep us scared keepers on the state of perpetual fear and terror so that we are uh... at their mercy its where were united victim mentality and week were completely susceptible to whatever they want to do to a summit date essentially they put position asking

31:32 uh... them to do what they've been want to do it could begin with but yet uh... and i get over the issue of consent and i deal with that in the book but its the main point is that it produces a result for one regardless of the issue of consent, or how sophisticated technology is, or how many different ways they beat us over the head. It produces exactly the results they want and they have it down to a science and it's very powerful and very sophisticated. Well let's look at some of these things, some of these weird coincidences that are easier for people

32:11 For example, one that's I think pretty easy to grasp is George Bush's role and actions on that day and the Satanism connection. Can you go into that a little bit? Yeah, and what we need to keep in mind is that of course there are genuine synchronicities produced by... it depends on your world view really as to how synchronicities actually operate. But what you'll find in these types of rituals is they generate purposefully these artificially engineered synchronicities and so they

32:50 That's part of why you tend to want to chalk it up to coincidence because it appears, and I just looks a little funny But can't quite figure it out. They do that on Just a broad scale with these types of rituals and then with 9-11 specifically but So we've got on the morning of September 11th, George W. Bush sitting in a Sarasota Florida classroom and he's being treated to a story by a group of second graders and it's the pet goat

33:26 which, you know seems innocent enough until you place all of that in broader context and understand 9-11 as a mass ritual on some level. A black mass and the episode in Sarasota really is was intended to be a black mass and the reading particular children's story was intended to invoke the goat-headed deity Baphomet, and is representative really of any number of things. But it fits right in with the Luciferian spirit of the day

34:08 But if you've never watched the video of Bush in the classroom, you should listen to the instructional style that was used and the children reading the book. It has a very ritual-like quality to it. There's the fact that Bush didn't get up for seven minutes after he was informed that America was under attack. I think his chief of staff whispered in his ear, and it... That's a really interesting episode because you've got those facts and then a number of others that I present in that chapter, but then just the fact of where Bush is that morning is one of these artificially engineered synchronicities I was referring to. Muhammad Atta, the purported ringleader of the 9-11 hijackings and the pilot of American Airlines Flight 11

35:11 that hit the first tower, he actually undertook part of his flight training in Sarasota. He took a little bit more training at the Venice Municipal Airport which is about 10 miles south of Sarasota But for Bush, on the very morning that the attacks occurred to be sitting in a town where the ringleader of the attacks took flight training is just absurd to think that's pure coincidence. And if that's one of those types of things

35:51 uh... you know really throws you off at first but then once you have it in context you gotta get it's this part of the joke and that unit also there are uh... you know is a kind of well-documented history of the cia using the uh... venice airport for its it's a drug-running operations and so was a tip of the hat to poppy bush in cia is activities in that area she got that's kind of all a multi layered little while tip of the hat any number of things there are you know of course who's governor of uh... florida at that time is it's jeb bush little brother jeb bush and so it's kind of an all in the family affair there in sarasota um... and you know you can rightly view george w the commander-in-chief really as the high priest of a black mass that was being conducted and that

36:45 You think, well he's in Florida and the tax from Washington and Shanksville and New York. In their mind it is all connected on the astral level and he is presiding over this whole series of events and kind of initiating the day and really serving to oversee this gigantic really a cult script as it's being played out. And so he helped, I guess kick off the day's events that morning and of course they lasted well into the latter part of the day but yeah you just when

37:28 link all the different pieces of evidence together, you see exactly what they were doing. And again what's difficult to really come to terms with is a lot of it does...you might see some occult significance and in many instances you do but then in other instances that the only conclusion that you can draw for some the inclusions of some of these different point to fact is that it was just done for kicks yes just as an end you know insider joke or has uh... in order to acknowledge um... something but it's a meeting today on the uh... system big job so yeah arm and i think that looking at bush on that day is is pretty telling them there are no other animals that represent

38:19 you know, a demon in the way that the goat head does. So I mean is that connection loose? That's up to the individual to decide but if you haven't heard the kids reading on that day then you have too and in fact...I can edit this out of it doesn't work out well but I'm gonna try to play it through YouTube. I think all three of us will be able to hear and I think it will record but I'm going give it a shot Get ready to read all these words on this page without making a mistake. Look at the letter at the end and remember the sound it makes. Yes, type! Get ready to read this word the fast way. Get ready? Keep! Sound it out get ready? Keep! Sound it out get ready? Keep! What word? Keep! Boys and girls sound this word out. Get ready? Steal! Read these words the fast way.

39:17 Okay, that actually worked out but I mean there's so many words So many damn words kids could be reciting but on the day of 9-11 they're reciting kite hit steel plane must. I mean kite is a little off But Hit steel plane must I mean that sounds a cultish to me and it also sounds very coincidental to what happened on that day You might want to edit this out. This is our if we just kind of

40:03 background a little bit on that uh... that really seems compelling when you look at the high-definition version of that video uh... and you can see the words they're reciting there not those words they sound like them really and in it yeah i mean who knows i'm not my because enough for ritual purposes but the other person that did that the video that you're looking at uh... was going based on what sounded like the kids were saying but when you look at The high-def version and you can see the words on the board that's pages pointing to it's I Forget what the words are but they're not those four words Wow Yeah, yeah. I mean I would keep it in there because I know that that's a popular video I've had that video sent to me many times I think it's important that if it's not legitimate that people know that There's tons of stuff to look at but it is important to note because that's one of the most popular ones If that's not legitimate then yeah, I'd like people to know that

40:58 Well, and again I went into this trying to disconnect the dots and not connect them. And ended up having to reverse my attitude on things but back to the symbol of the goat, the use of the goat, the story of children's story you know one of the things that i did was trying to really assess whether or not this particular symbol or link was valid, you know. Was it tenuous? And specifically when you do the research and I think I put enough in the book probably convince

41:47 the reader and the listener it is such a powerful symbol uh... historically and then uh... contemporary terms to the freemasons as well as representing invoking baphomet that we know when you when you do it up provide enough background that really helps them the reader get it because i didn't realize how important it was but one when you understand the symbols and numbers and then be sort of uh... the system of thought and that's what but the con broader context for some of these symbols of what it represents venue catch on then you're able to understand if you might minutes more than just a you know a bit about an interesting note or up off you know perhaps i am an interesting link the uh... they uh... presence of the goat was um...

42:36 you know, really intentionally woven in and I... You know people are right to be skeptical about all of this but then when you do the background research and you're able established context and then show how the symbol was used in the broader event that day, then that begins to fill in some of the blanks and answer some of the questions. And make things seem a little bit more certain now certainly people are right to continue to question any piece of evidence or the whole scenario but it just

43:13 that it gets a little bit more firm with each chapter. You get a little bit more evidence and then at the end, of course I try to tie everything together in a comprehensive way but yeah...I started out- I wanted it all go away It wouldn't. Well, when you do face skeptics and you tell them what your book is about and they kind of step back and say give me an example What would you cite as a quick and easy one of the strongest examples that there's a Satanist element to 9-11 or ritual element? Well see I've got already made answer for that

43:52 and it's that well any it's uh... in on a much better for you quite often back and give you some examples but the the broader truth is that there is no one example was going to be entirely convincing as the cumulative weight of evidence uh... and n that's what convinced me and that's what allowed me to you know really characterize the entire event and in the way though i have been and really talk about it uh... in detailed terms and and represent this uh... you know rather complete occult script for the various components of nine eleven from dot what took place in dc in new york shanksville on uh... whitehorse alaska they are

44:40 It's the cumulative weight that is convincing and compelling. As to the aspects of the entire day's events that qualify it, in my mind as a Luciferian or Satanic ritual...probably in every chapter there's something you can point to a very powerful piece of evidence and say well, you know what? of what you would expect to find in context of a Black Mass or a Satanic ritual, and then those just layer one on top of another. One example I'll give you...in looking at the Twin Towers—and again this is

45:31 You have to keep in mind the broader script, but you have the use of a very powerful fire symbol in the Twin Towers themselves. And the chief architectural element of the Twin Towers was the trident. You can see it in any thousands and thousands photographs of the Twin Towers but the exterior were just this these repeated trident symbols that cast in steel that wrapped all the way around the buildings and The Trident is a well-known fire symbol. It's the weapon of Satan if you will You know, Satan is not holding a pitchfork at the trident and that's classical

46:21 uh... fire symbol and so the uh... between powers themselves were these massive a sacrificial vessel vessels that were marked we're literally wrapped in anna fire symbol they are in context of all of the other evidence from the guilt to the um... these blatant human sacrifices to them numerology in the us astrology that you find just scattered all over the place on 9-11, it absolutely has the overtones of a gigantic satanic ritual. Now as we discussed earlier it's not exclusively so and

47:08 I go into a short dialogue in the book about, well okay are these all of the people that were in the upper echelons and responsible for orchestrating this event or are they hardcore true-believing Satanists? And there's...I would have some question about that. I think there's some Absolutely, there are some that are committed practicing Luciferians and practitioners of the dark arts. But then I'm sure there's some that just long for the ride and go along with all of that because it produces results they desire. They get their cut and so they just go along with the overall plan because it benefits them

48:00 I was left with no question that on some level, regardless of the attitude of the orchestrators of the event towards it. But on some level it was absolutely a massive Luciferian ritual. Hey Ken, I have a question about talking about this occult symbolism And a lot of that doesn't seem readily apparent, you know to the average Joe. You know unless you dig a bit deeper as you have but ... do you think this occult symbolism at least it seems to me it works can work on a subconscious level planning these images in the

48:49 group mind and you know this brings me back to I'm not sure don't know if you're familiar with James Shelby Downard in the research he did yeah talked about what he called the revelation of the method and then making manifest evolved it's unseen that it's a subtle processing. And, it seems like I said it's not these symbols aren't readily apparent but I think over the years they have became more mainstream, you're starting to see all this Illuminati symbolism. Kind of a long-winded question there and I'm not sure what it is but do you agree with that? That it's used on a subconscious level

49:35 Yeah, I very much do. Somewhat depends on your own personal belief or perspective as to whether or not ritual magic—whether white or black actually works and your attitudes and beliefs about the supernatural…but there's good evidence that Those that pulled off this mega ritual are very powerful believers in black magic.

50:14 subliminal programming is known to be effective. And of course, there are various tactics within psychological warfare that are proven beyond a shadow of doubt. There's good evidence and that the intended effect of these symbols whether or not we recognize them activate within us on a subconscious level various powers and forces and uh... you know even invoke energies from the astral planes in content do things to it so we just can't begin to imagine um... and that the so that we're not just being exposed to

51:03 uh... the symbols but they're actually um... operating archetypal subconscious level and programming our consciousness and influencing us at the level of spirit in being uh... and you know that's best support what you know this you really hope was not true yet because it inhibition everything else that they're doing if they're performing some grand and alchemical transmutation of human consciousness for their own purposes, you know, in seeking to change the course of human evolution and the evolution of our consciousness and warp it to their dark purposes.

51:47 you know if there's truth to that and then there's good evidence that they'd they have a spot strong belief that their their practices and techniques are effective than uh... that puts this into an entirely different realm i mean it if we entertain the idea of supernatural forces and supernatural evil and okay well did they have uh... that the orchestrators of this nine eleven ritual have some type of aid from non-human uh... force said that um... you know dick where they performing some magic spell not just a ritual but weaving some kind of spell that took effect in is still in effect than unleashed

52:29 demonic forces on the landscape. I don't get into that in the book, but those questions are raised and they are certainly there and it depends on where you are in your own thinking and all of those issues. Well that kind of brings me to my next question maybe this will be part two of your book but... You talk about the occult script well who has written this script? Who's the author or authors perhaps superhuman deities like Hermes, who's influencing humans. Who do you think... is this a script that was written long ago? Or is this a script that different scripts continue to be written? That's kind of the big question but

53:19 It is a big question, and I don't know that I have the answers. of a type that has, of course been employed before undertaken before and you know we've discussed a bit the JFK killing-of-the king ritual but it's a grand example of a type of ritual that has been performed multiple times throughout history. But its

54:03 It's difficult to really say, and I forgot the second part of your question. Who authors the script? Do we even know? I don't think we'll ever know because whoever is at the top, whoever's pulling the strings at the highest levels. They're obviously able to manipulate the defense and intelligence agencies of various countries including United States with...I wouldn't say with ease but with

54:41 total effectiveness and you know they either there were either individuals within the CIA and DOD that were complicit or that were manipulated in ways that they couldn't conceive of but I don't really try to, in the book get into you know, who done it? And I do talk about some of the logical suspects. But that is such a broad issue and it's so hard to come up with any real answers for the most part left alone. The stereotypical answer that you would probably give to that question as well as the Illuminati...well, that doesn't tell you anything but there are various

55:29 think tanks and organizations and families that are associated with these types of events. And you know, you hear all about them on Alex Jones. There's lots of people have written about the Illuminati and the Club of Rome and Bilderberg Group and so forth but I mean those wouldn't be the types of entities or agencies that would be writing this descript for the for this event or were at the uh... top of them the pyramid and so i don't think will ever know have any clue who's a the key actors were you all you can really do is isn't for from the evidence he would've had to have been involved with which agencies would have had to have been either complicit or duped

56:22 and then you know if you can follow the trail back upstream further from that then you've done a hell of a lot of research because uh... it they they have purposely insulated themselves uh... it's not to be pessimistic but i think even if you could get a clue as to who was involved you could not touch them there is not a judicial body on the planet including international courts that can hold these people accountable they own everything they own amin right these are the people that owned the international banks multinational corporations they uh... who you gonna send to arrest them even if you could identify them and and who's that by them what institution are you going try them within so it is tough because you can look at the bush family in skull and bones in their little group and you can be like oh, they're pretty high up there but its like you don't know. There could be ten levels above them They could be working for people that they fear in ways that would make you laugh

57:23 It's kind of like I say about Freemasons, just to say people say 33 degree is the highest degree. That may be the highest degree people talk about! There could be a level above that that no one who has reached would ever talk. It could go up to 100 but after 33 that's when they really separate the wheat from the chaff. You never really know it's only what comes out. You're entirely right about that. But before we go, I really do want to spend some time on your your ebook because it brings it into more current events the same line of thinking but You've got this ebook on your website. It is free I think it's a must read for anybody who's listening and it's called a warning Aurora Sandy Hook in the Valley of ashes can you tell us a bit about This trilogy of attacks that you theorize on and and some and since we're so close to May 10th, which is a big potentially a big date in in this line of thinking

58:22 Yeah, one thing about the study and analysis of 9-11 and similar events is that you can begin to try to predict what they might do when they might do it in the future. When you understand that these false flag events have in most instances some type of occult component then you can start to look for the occult architecture I astrological connection between the two, dealing with the crescent moon and their...

59:21 These are I guess our controllers are involved in the enterprise of blurring the line between Reality and fantasy, and so that's part of why they leave clues and hints Specifically in this instance in Batman That art night rises and other films they there in a thing that are manifesting on celluloid that then turn out have bearing and in our real world and it's this is a prime example of those artificial link artificially engineered synchronicity as we were discussing earlier

1:00:00 But, without getting into too much detail there's a pattern. There are connections between Aurora and Sandy Hook that are fact and then if you extrapolate out one more event assuming it is a trifecta uh... there is a scenario that really really is compelling and um... involving yet another major hollywood production that was uh... originally scheduled for release on december twenty fifth twentieth well but wasn't moved to make camp and uh... the may tenth is the of the date in question and it's uh...

1:00:46 Part of what I call a triple crescent moon, I think trifecta is the term that I used. But 9-11 had a strong astrological component and pinned to the occult calendar and there were some other The date was significant itself. It had connections to Thoth, which is the Egyptian version of Hermes if you will and so that you've got that continuity there between Hermes and Thoth without

1:01:30 jumping back in the nine eleven too much they are there were other astro sort of points of astrological significance on nine eleven that i detail uh... and and one chapters in the book and the uh... their framework for this or ron sandy hook um... may tenth event is uh... is built on that same sort of documented arc uh... astrological framework, if you will. It's very reminiscent of what was done on 9-11 but in this instance you've got three events on three separate dates that are connected through a lunar ritual and again it's...

1:02:21 you start stacking up the evidence and looking at the points and creating connections, and you just are left with some conclusions that you'd just rather not consider. But we've seen it before, and the movie in question , You know, Sandy Hook shows up on the map in the dark night. That's probably the creepiest and most aggressive bit of foreshadowing that you could even do Obviously there is a lot of weird stuff with James Holmes and people saying both these cases people say they've seen multiple shooters And then you got...and Sandy Hook also have

1:03:11 the corner his name was carver that's just odd i mean we had mark wiener the politicians showing as winner we have bernie made off whose made off with all your money you know it all seems fake and so that's another of the other weird thing is this any hook actors you know you got that uh... that guy robbie parker he's laughing before he starts talking about his dead daughter um... these are very would end idea i'd miss that detail that this movie was originally to supposed to come out on December 25th because you had a big prediction about that day obviously were passed there but I mean they moved this date and that would have also fit with the three movies or those three movies all kind of being like a couple months apart, but if they move this to May 10th there are some reasons that you talk about. But i just wanted to give that little bit we're talking

1:03:59 Oh, well in terms of Sandy Hook the movie we're talking about is Hunger Games. You know That's the connection there because the author who wrote The Hunger Games is from Aurora that It's a story of killing of kids Yeah That's what the whole stories about the whole trilogy you show the Ring of Fire Is their symbol that symbol also showed up and part of the Olympic ceremonies which was just full of symbolism. It was it was kind of gross is kind of you know insulting But I just wanted to give that little bit of information, so we're talking about the Dark Knight We're talking about The Hunger Games and then this third movie that might complete this trilogy of the You know ceremony of the Crescent Moon What's that movie going to be?

1:04:48 Well, it's the Great Gatsby and it fits in perfectly. It is of course a different genre but in terms of tone and theme and the underlying psychology, it just fits right in with The Dark Knight and The Hunger Games which was by the way released on an evening that was a crescent moon uh... even though the you know that of course the time there is that the author of the hunger games just happens to live in sandy hook but you've got this again this interplay between reality and fantasy and that's what they're they're trying to blur the lines between reality a fantasy and that's a key element in thing in the great gatsby

1:05:37 And the, so you've got like you said it is really sort of this trinity of movies that were very similar sub themes and messages that in their, on each instance they used film to either foreshadow reality or somehow its mixed in there. Combined with all the other evidence and sort of the astrology of it, I present some possibilities for what might happen on May 10th. And it's keyed to one of the locations in the book and that is the area of Flushing New York. Of course you get that neat little

1:06:26 toilet reference, they're flushing and so who knows if that has anything to do with it. But at the time that Gatsby was written this area was known as the Valley of the Ashes and its a real location you can identify that Fitzgerald worked into the book. And there's a sports stadium located on that very property And of course in the Batman film, you've got a mass attack on Sports Stadium. So there's just lots of interesting possibilities again it's...you can't say with any certainty what's going to happen but I thought this was

1:07:09 interesting enough with enough sort of for ship possible foreshadowing and some really compelling connections that I wanted to present it and that places Sorry, but that place is also on the map in the dark night. Right? I mean it says target one Sandy hook and there is a target two Yeah, it was funny. When I first thought about...I guess I read online somebody was talking about the strike zone two and they thought they'd figured out where strike zone 2 was and I thought well they're not going to do that again thats too predictable thats ridiculous and i just forgot about it

1:07:49 And so I went through this exercise and came down and developed a scenario for an attack on this sports stadium, had that outlined pretty well. Then I just happened to look back at that map. If you accept the map of Gotham is based on the map of New York, and you look physically where it's located uh... you kind of overlay the two uh... this location is exactly where strike zone 2 is on that map that was in batman's dark knight rises and my jaw hit the floor when I saw that. That doesn't mean it's an absolute given that something is going to happen there but its really sort of spooky

1:08:39 uh... you know people are already on a huge had uh... you know some guy claimed he'd figured out where the next attack was going to be and somebody sent a link to the state police. Next thing you know, every school in the county was closed down for a day while they briefed the teachers and administrators. And I mentioned—I just have a short paragraph on that in the book but that's the environment we're operating where someone can, just really based on loose evidence sort of throw a theory out there and the next thing you know you've got the sheriff, state police, chief of police closing school down for day and pulling all the administrators together to give them a briefing on the issue.

1:09:32 It's a, again the line between fantasy and reality has been blurred. It continues to be blurred and so we don't know what sort of creative garbage they have planned for us next but if it's not this a and

1:10:22 If something does happen on May 10th in connection to the Great Gatsby, it should validate for the listener that these are not random events. this should do it for you, you know? And I think it's a really interesting concept. When you look at that stadium there on the ground, is it the Pittsburgh Stadium? Or is it the Mets? The Pittsburgh Stadium was the one that they actually filmed in for the Dark Knight Rises. That's right, that's the connection! And this is Citi Field located in Flushing Meadows Park and Flushing New York. Then they're playing Pittsburgh on that day... Was that the connection? Yeah. Okay, that's crazy! It's in the movie where they use the Pittsburgh Stadium. Pittsburgh is playing them on that day and that's the day The Great Gatsby comes out Is that the release date?

1:11:21 Yeah, it is kind of crazy and and to top it off icing on the cake City Field as Citibank The Citibank symbol above the eye. What are we looking at above the eye on the Citibank symbol a beautiful red crescent boom I mean, I read that piece. I thought it was amazing It's 22 pages Anybody should go and read it you got now until May 10th before they shut off the internet and throw us all in the FEMA camps I just think it's really interesting And I love that predictive kind of stuff as long as it's not...I'm not really into the whole You know psychic predictions But I do like the concrete, you know kind of Sherlock Holmes type

1:12:03 Predictive events, but yeah it's crazy the other there was a There was something else about it. That was also really weird There's a lot of things that you wrote there But there was another thing I was gonna point out oh uh that's right The production designer of the Dark Knight because I've wondered about this I'm like the dark knight has all this weird shit in it It even has We talked to Sandy hook it even has on There's when it has a view of the skyline of the city one of the city one of the building says Aurora on it really big so you got Sandy Hook and Aurora, and yeah I'm like how did all this shit get in The Dark Knight because there was also a lot of ties to the old comic from 1985 where a guy with red hair goes into a theater And shoots people and then John Holmes dies his hair red. And then when the stadium collapses they focus on the player With 85 on his jersey like it's it's ridiculously focused. I mean, I'm not just

1:12:57 strong you know grassman straws here it's it's the focal point of the shot and uh... yeah unlike how all this shit in the dark night but the production manager are the production designer of the dark knight is nathan crawley who is uh... has relation alistair crowley it out because great grandson i believe and then been let's say there was I always like the, maybe the prop manager was from Sandy Hook and the set designer or the prop designer was from what we know as Aleister Crowley's great grandson.

1:13:40 absurd linkages and just you know dripping with You know occult significance and sort of smacking of just outright mockery Just like he found out throughout 9-11, then you get with uh? You know the Aurora Colorado shooting. I mean even if you've got that that's here with this in spades it just they They might be incredibly twisted, but they are certainly fond of using their dark humor. They enjoy a good laugh apparently at our expense, I might add.

1:14:21 Do you think the reason for these... well, you actually write in the book. You say that occultists believe that numbers contain inherent spiritual and temporal power and that to launch a plan without incorporating the proper occult power numbers could doom the plan to failure Is that the reason for all this numerical coincidence? Does it just boil down to that statement or is there more to it? do you think this is just like a superstition that they hold or do you think there's like real energy like some type of I think probably the latter.

1:15:00 And if you're just thinking about, say the number 11 and you're just thinking about that being used on the airplane. Okay what real power could that have? Why would it really make a difference okay maybe it creates reference to Aleister Crowley and maybe its a number of magic but what difference does that really make well uh... You could argue wouldn't make a lot of difference in addition everything else that they do that might be legitimate, might have some sort of ritualistic effect and might actually produce some sort of supernatural effect. Maybe that's not... maybe that is just a carryover superstition and doesn't do anything." You know? And I tended to think that for awhile but then as you understand numbers as symbols and put them

1:15:52 And then think about the impact of symbols on the subconscious, and then you put the number in combination with the symbols. With all the other things that we don't understand about how magical acts work and the incantations you know just outright sorcery, we don't really know...we probably aren't aware of exactly everything that the numbers represent. So I'd tend to hold that question open and say it might just be some superstition there or it might be artificial engineered synchronicity for kicks or there could be more to it than we're aware and of course there's things about all this that I'm sure I am completely ignorant

1:16:39 There are many people who put a lot of stock in both white and black magic. I would just certainly hope that there are practitioners of white magic that are as adept as these black magicians are. We're really in a lot of trouble." No kidding! Well, hey man, that about does it. It's been quite a ride. There is a ton more in the book too. If anyone out there still thinks there's a chance we're not completely Fucked then pick up the most dangerous book in the world and I advise you to check out Kent's blog And his ebook 22 pages of steamy conspiracy porn, and I mean that in the best way possible Can't can you give the people your website? it's the most dangerous book in the world calm and there's a blog section and then there's a Browse section in their couple. I believe the browse section is where we've got that free ebook and

1:17:37 There's a contact form if listeners or readers have any questions. Be glad to answer questions and I've really enjoyed doing your show Nice man Adam was there anything else you wanted to throw out before we let the man go? No, fascinating conversation thanks Kent Yeah enjoyed it Thanks for coming on the show it has been a real pleasure I look forward to keeping up with your analysis of current events Hopefully we can talk again in the future Sounds good take care Alright man have a good day Bye bye God damn. How was that? What'd you think? Yeah, it's some good stuff for sure. Dark stuff. Funny I got a front buddy of mine he's not really into the conspiracy research scene but we went down to LA

1:18:25 Last weekend, he started talking about this book by Kent. No way! Yeah, I go shit we're gonna be interviewing him in a couple days That's awesome Synchronicities man it totally that's what makes me wonder sometimes. I'm like do these connections happen due to careful meticulous planning or is there just some mechanism in the universe that causes these things to unfold and I think it's a mechanism in the universe. Right, so then it goes into... Of course! Is it both? I'm sure it is both. Kent was talking about synthetic synchronicities too. That true and that's something we talked about with Andy Kovan last time you were here as they try to create these things maybe because there is some type of uh maybe there are some natural force that causes them and the dark side just tries to imitate that force

1:19:23 I don't know man, but different book projects that I've written on. For instance The Prankster and the Conspiracy. The deeper I got down that rabbit hole the more synchronicities I experienced Yeah! I've heard you talk about it. Do you want to give a couple of examples? Oh man...I'd forgotten most of them. But what the main one that kicked it off was I was considering writing the book on Thornley, gathering research material and I thought if I ever have enough material write the book. And so as I mentioned at the beginning of this show, Discordianism was co-founded by Greg Hill and Kerry Thornley So around 2000 I got a unsolicited email and this is in an email address that

1:20:25 It's a personal one nobody should have known about except friends and family. It is not something I have in my go-rightly website, so I received an email from a guy named Bob Newport saying that Greg Hill had died how he knew how to contact me. I have no idea this was like in 2000, so i emailed him back and said asked did you know Kerry Thornley as well? And Newport responded that he knew both Thornley and Greg Hill and that he himself was a co-founder of Discordianism. So I ended up interviewing him

1:21:09 introduced me to a lot of other people like Robert Anton Wilson and number of folks that had known Kerry Thornley. And this guy Newport ended up passing on to me the Discordian archives several years later which I'm using for all these projects in development so, Newport's kind of magical fellow. Yeah! I asked him you know couple years later how did you know to contact me? He had no idea Weird man, and without that contact I doubt if I would have written the book. Yeah And so there was a bunch of synchronicities all all through that you know It was just done the little things that I was visiting Louise Lacey who I interviewed for the book and she had known Carrie real well and she was I asked her if he hadn't she had any photographs and

1:22:13 There was this one she was looking for, Carrie Thornley playing a harmonica and she was looking all around for it couldn't find it. And we got discussing something else and she was running her hands over the bookshelf and showed me the book by Mickey Hart of The Grateful Dead on drumming. Louise had done research to help him with that book Later after I left she pulled out the book and opened it up. And that's that photo we're looking for of Carrie Thornley was in the book Yeah, yeah, I mean those ones are those kind of synchronicities do seem a little more obviously they seem more natural they there are still weird and there's still like a Paranormal aspect to it but when you look at the 9-eleven stuff and some of this stuff around these false flags It's so meticulously planned that it's just like oh

1:23:08 and A lot more than that. Getting some oil and going over there and making a little bit of money, that's just icing on the cake compared to the real damage it's being done to the psyche I mean i can't even wear my shoes in our airplane you know? Will ever be able too like that's the thing when does it end but... It just makes you feel hopeless everyone I know is working their ass off just to be broke I'm coming into the real world at a time where house isn't even a good fucking investment anymore The media version of reality has never been further from the truth

1:23:54 people have too much pride to admit that they're one missed alarm clock away from losing their job and You know, it sucks. You know, that's not freedom We're all just kind of waiting around for things to get better But I think we're in the middle of something big man. I really do what you think am I being dramatic? Um, yeah, I guess it's just your you know persons uh Perspective on maybe I'm in denial All this crazy shit goes on but Figuring I'm gonna try to be as positive and have as much fun while we can Groovy. I mean, yeah what can you do? You know so like it's like Kent was saying This is the deal this is the script or ain't shit We can Do about it I think what we can do about it What his book the reason for his book is to wake people up So they see these patterns, you know at least week we can become aware of them with them

1:24:52 But I also think, you know on a deeper level with this occult script and meticulously planned as you said what if this is happening on a subconscious level? What if it isn't that meticulous just coming out of the mass collective conscious and subconscious of the planet. That's true too like maybe there's some way that they're That synchronistic power of the universe, whatever that is. Maybe they're twisting that and harnessing it in a way that makes it blossom itself. Yeah! Weird shit man... I'm not high enough for this anymore but like we so often do when you're here we close the show with one of your tracks and what did you send me this time? What have we got?

1:25:41 I believe i sent you a track called Fields of Pain. Alright! Is that right? That is. My second album, Songs for Another World What's that about? Uh... there uh... what's the album about? Well that track Based on the title my guess was Crop Circles. I'm not sure what it's about It was like an instrumental thing I was working on and Sounds kind of dark and gloomy. There's heavy guitars appropriate and I there weren't really any lyrics but as I was messing around the Ending of the song came, and it died just repeat the lyrics fields of pain It's kind of like a nuclear holocaust thing or a zombie apocalypse well it's uh interesting that you mentioned that because what that just jogged in my memory another aspect of

1:26:40 Kent's May 10th prediction is, you know he's talking about the ring of fire. He's talking about the crescent moon in the trilogy and when you put the...a ring of fire and crescent moon together The symbol of the biohazard symbol that's what that is It's three crescent moons And a ring of fire or a ring You know it could be a ring whatever the fuck you want to be but in this case it might be fire so The biological thing is something that scares the shit out of me, because it seems uncontainable. That can get out of hand real quick but at least it's over in New York and we're here in sunny California right? Oh well yeah! We're supposedly getting all the radiation from Fukushima on this end of the country. But what's that going to do? That's just gonna give you cancer which we've probably already got anyway

1:27:34 Well, it's been a pleasure man. Always great talking to you Yeah, but I do uh, I do love having you on I appreciate your weekly THC contributions They're always fun to go over People Adams column transmissions from a dying planet appears once a week in the higher side chats comm not so much on A specific day is planned But and that's totally on my on my end but it goes up once a week and I do appreciate you sticking with it Man, that's awesome It's a pleasure, sir. All right man well Here's Adam go rightly these fields of pain it hurts so good and I will see you guys next week be careful out there

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