THC 20: The Spirit Science Council | The Spirit Science Series & Manifesting Reality

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are the Higher Side Chats. Folks, welcome to the show it's been a while since the last THC that's because I spent the past few months learning how to make a decent website so if you go to TheHigherSideChats.com You'll see I try to put up the best news stories of the day There is also the podcast of course there is forums So people are talking If you want to talk about some crazy conspiracy stuff That's good place to do it

00:55 But I had a great time talking to Jordan, Lily, Tyler and Tori who are four of the eight or so members of the Spirit Science Council. And we had a great chat! So here it is... BOOM! Hey folks, I'm here with Jordan. He's a creator of Spirit Science and the Spirit Quest web series is he's got the whole spirit science crew with him guys say hello. Hello! I'm also here with Kyle front of the show you've seen him before he's been on your plenty of times But if you guys out there haven't seen Spirit Science, it's one of the most clear and concise methods of exploring pretty much all the ideas of the alternative community. Meditation, chakras, astral projection, crop circles 2012 Atlantis...it's all great stuff!

01:48 It's one of my favorite web series, but the first one is thoughts which basically breaks down what you'll hear all the time Which is that your thoughts? Manifest your reality which is an idea that you guys are actually living out and demonstrating with the spirit quest videos So I mean let's start there. How did Spirit Quest start and where is it at now um spirit quest started in Last year, I guess it was actually August 10th when I left. I went and decided that I wanted to travel the world or just kind of travel because I had always traveled previously in school trips and vacations with my family and thought it would be amazing. And I learned about the secret and power of thoughts and stuff like if I can do anything what do

02:30 I decided that traveling was definitely in my best interest so i packed up my stuff. I literally gave everything that I owned away to Salvation Army, all of my clothes. I sold a bunch of my old stuff and just kind of took two backpacks and left on this journey. So I traveled around the states for several months and that whole adventure can be watched online. I probably don't need to go into all the little details of everything, but eventually it came to Actually, I met the Atlantis King Tyler who's sitting next to me and we started talking. I saw his videos on the Spirit Science Facebook and was like, ìI have to meet this guy! We should totally hang outî so I ended up getting a trip to Australia for super cheap thanks to our lovely friend Tori.

03:21 That was wonderful just like on a buddy pass thing and we I went to Australia for a month and lived in this beautiful Australian paradise We had a wonderful time, and I convinced Tyler's to come and travel so we came back here And now the group, also Lily who's Lionpatch is over there making food and Tori is on the computer over here. We all just met online through the internet and came together in LA and we're like, I love the fact that um like the first video of yours is thoughts and then that's just like when you learn it You can control your thoughts and anything's possible That going traveling is really one of the first things that you can do It's like you prove it to yourself when um, you quit your job And you sell your shit you grab two bags of stuff and you just run around the world for a little while they go Wow all whatever matters as me in what I'm doing

04:15 So it's really important lessons for some people to get and some people have been inspired to do it just online which is amazing. We hear emails from them around the world and it's good to meet up with them as much as possible It's I mean it is such an obvious truth that your thoughts would manifest your reality But most people live life like they're victims of circumstance. I mean Me for example, like I hate my day job But I mean you know people people have the attitude like oh how'd I get stuck here? Well You applied for the job you went on the interviews you tried really hard to get it and you drive yourself to work every day but then then they laugh when someone says you can do anything you put your energy into yeah

04:53 I mean, Kyle he actually has quit his job the first of the year. Congratulations to Kyle! He ballsed up and did it. Yeah, I would say that Jordan your work has been pretty much an inspiration. I've followed most of Spirit Quest and all other spirit science videos And it's changed my outlook on a lot of things but actually yeah me and my wife both Quit our jobs, and we've converted our entire grass backyard into a farm And that's what we're doing right now, and we are selling all our goods and giving the rest to Salvation Army. So yeah! That's awesome where is that? We should come have a look Oh it's in St Louis you guys can stop by anytime we have plenty of room here. Where the hell is St Louis?

05:35 It is in the middle of the country where no one wants to be. Except Kyle! Colorado as well We may be back there. Yeah, we were just in Colorado and Utah and um...we're almost back yeah I mean we're almost back in LA now but we were planning on definitely doing more traveling so maybe we will be back around we can even do a gathering out there and have lots of people kind of come out and just you know hang out and be the light for a little while He owns his home, so you're willing to give it up for these type of events and stuff which is a great resource you have. You don't have any landlord that's going to come bang on the door because you've got too many people hanging out. No, I mean the banks are after me. They will be eventually once they get here. They're after everybody! Join the clubs show-off. For the time being it's the strategy we use.

06:22 Badass. Yeah, absolutely. One thing you mentioned in the Spirit Quest and it's everyone's greatest fear is money and a lot of people would love to live out this kind of lifestyle but they're just afraid that they're going to go broke be living on the streets, which essentially that's what a nomadic lifestyle is. So what are you afraid of? But I mean you kind of hint on the fact that things have just happened as they need to happen but can you give some more detail like how the universe is manifesting these things so that you don't hit these roadblocks?"

07:02 Well, I mean we pretty much don't have money except when we do have money and the way that we're functioning is that in order to gain something it has to have space. In order for a plant to grow it has to have the space to grow so when you've accumulated so much you get stuffed So when you start to let go of those things, then you're creating space and the new things that you want will be able to come in. Every time we go broke, we pretty much just sit there and concentrate on what we want, like a specific amount of money for a specific thing we're trying to do and then it comes. Because the universe isn't biased it'll give you what you want whether its positive or negative It's up to you to be very specific about it One of the nice things that one of the ways that we've kind of made

07:55 some money in the last little while was actually through crystals. We went to the Tucson Gem Show with the intention of getting some crystals and we ended up getting this like for it was like for $50, we got this massive satchel or giant sack of rose quartz. So as we've been traveling around we've been giving away rose quartz to people that we meet but we also went to...we had our own little spirit science gathering in Boulder So, when we were there we were able to sell some of the crystals and make a little extra money so that we could travel. I guess that's one of the specifics but yeah it's... When you open up to allow things to flow especially on the money aspect is kind of one thing that I think a lot people struggle with just because they get into the mindset that its like you can do anything in this spiritual path

08:45 they kind of think that money is this taboo subject and it kinda becomes a disc about what they created to be but you know in this current state of the world unfortunately still need it so you have to find ways to manifest it but when you come to terms with that you can usually find ways to make money relatively smoothly or harmonically with what it is that you're doing elective say that uh... money's we need when he got up there here makes it really easy just a thing hahaha and then on What was the other point that I had it's gone? It's going to be negative in your life So if you're thinking of money as a negative thing You're always gonna have this rough relationship with it If you like transmute money at the positive things as a tool To do good things then your perception of it will change and then you won't have such this bad relationship like it's a bad boyfriend or girlfriend

09:42 My personal problem is I have no problem with money. It's just the means of which I'm attaining it, such a negative atmosphere and something that I don't want to do which is most people's day job but I see the money as a way to achieve more freedom. I can now buy a kayak so that I can walk it down to the bay on the days off." Obviously you get more resources that way, but its just the job that I hate so much! But thats the paradigm that so many people are stuck with and thats why I love watching The Spirit Quest because its kind of like living vicariously through people who have the balls to do what I don't

10:25 just quit the day job you know i think kind of as we're moving into this whole new paradigm everything i mean money slowly gonna start to fizzle out in the meantime i think it's uh... and then you're just saying that you don't like doing what you do and it's going to be up to either you know there's going to people who are going to start new businesses a new jobs in new life lifestyle but also kind of acumen bring in money and it's kinda big if the new way of doing business but it's like fun and you know, you're just kind of living free and having fun doing what you love. And also bringing in goodness I think I guess it'll kind of be the same thing as if you know, the people who start businesses in the modern world today and then the people who don't then the other people will start to kind of come to those people and work for the businesses. And then join...be kind of a community around doing whatever it is whether it's some new type of zen garden or awesome or I don't really have any ideas on but you know what I'm talking about? Yeah!

11:24 keep reminding yourself that you don't have to do what the status quo says to make money. As a human being, we have this awesome ability to bring things in the fourth, fifth and sixth dimensions down into the third. I think visualizing... even drawing yourself, even if it's a stick figure of yourself surrounded by this new life you want, it's important to visualize that and know that you always have a way out. There is no such thing as being trapped You create the stuckness yourself. Of course, of course! Yeah it's like I completely accept that and just live a hypocritical lifestyle but that is what has given Kyle... Why? Why are you putting yourself through this when you're supposed to be learning from that? And what lesson will you glean and how long will it take before you decide wait I'm going to go do something else than I want to do

12:22 Right. Well, I mean that's kind of what this website and show is trying to transition into something that I actually enjoy doing but how many people do you think are out there that actually watch every Spirit Science and the Spirit Quest and live in the same kinda lifestyle? They still go to a 9-5 they're probably not passionate about it because there's just this fear of completely detaching... And that's why I respect you guys and Kyle! I wanted him here because It's the thought that there is a change in paradigm that gave Kyle the strength to be able to walk away from the job because, like you just said money is going to be changing. The way we interact with money and kind of economic models are probably going to be changing I mean what do you guys expect out 2012? Awesome! A lot of change.

13:14 She is lying, Patrick. Well there's so many different aspects and layers and levels of discussing 2012 and I don't think that you can just say flat out well this is going to happen or this is going to happen because it's a very dynamic thing and absolutely everyone is going to affect it. I think that things are gonna keep moving faster and faster like I don't know if I'm Like for us, maybe it's accelerated because we're traveling and living in the way that we are and not kind of in this 9-to-5 ritual. But things have been speeding up monumentally at least for us I can't say that the same for everyone else but... No, I agree! Does it feel like a sixth of the year is over already? Is it? Yeah there's only 12 months in a year two of them are done. It's a sixth year

14:06 First quarter is done or first quarter is we're in for sixth. I mean Whoa, whoa time time definitely feels like it's speeding up the humans like Formula for time is going to be changed. Excuse me, I have food in my mouth. Okay well while you chew... I don't know if you guys know anything about the dream spell calendar and Jose Arguelles but he did like a lot of work on kind of this whole new paradigm understanding time and he kind of rewrote a calendar based on the lunar cycles And there's a- that is like a huge topic on its own actually I do want to look into this and possibly share it on Spirit Science too in an episode, maybe learning about this calendar and how it works because it puts you on a cycle

15:01 of time that is natural and harmonic to what the earth experiences. So for us, our way of tracking things... We have all these different leap years and we're not in tune with the lunar cycles or even the solar cycles, really. Well and because of the leap year part The Mayan calendar date that's supposed to be the 21st in December this year actually came up October 2011 Oh that was that big a date? I've heard that but isn't the Mayan calendar tied to the procession of the equinox so it doesn't really you know its going to come to fruition on December 21 2012

15:43 end of the cycle, so it doesn't really matter what the Gregorian calendar puts on it. Or am I wrong? The Gregorian calendar as well is also part of the same kind of program and that's... Well with the dream spell as well actually this is something I learned recently that uh... when you take the the dreamsville calendar to the the the solar power of the the lunar capital restart that would be uh... the mayan long count is the solar calendar they kind of max right on and how the earth works with the sun and then the dream spell is the lunar calendar so it kinda works with the the lunar cycles of the moon and when u when you're working with that um from what i've learned at least is when you fractal down

16:28 The the dates with the the lunar calendar at the end of the cycle ends on 1212 12, so it's not 1211 but that's just you know another aspect of Change I guess and all of these things are just windows to like the mines called this window that we're in right now The end-of-time which says that this shift is going to happen sometime between 2007 and 2015 So you can't say that it's gonna be December 21st or December 12th or October 28th for any of these dates because it exists within a window. End of time meaning end of time, we're not going to have time. Right! Not the end of world but the end of time like have you guys studied Terence McKenna's Time Wave? I just got that book and we are reading about it in 2012 The Return Of Quetzalcoatl as well

17:16 Nice awesome alignment Well one big part of spirit science is the whole idea of Christ consciousness How do you guys see that manifesting? I mean because that's supposed to be related in some way to 2012 or to this time period correct definitely I'll start okay. I'm chewing a CD so I when I was in Australia As with a very smart man, that was supporting the rise of amateurism and this is really what Well, we're coming from two different sides but everything that we try and do is support people to inspire people to go on start doing exactly what they want to do. And the current system doesn't provide for that so they can't walk into a job like you yourself, your 9-5

17:59 probably doesn't support you know yourself spiritually or maybe emotionally and things like that. Not at all! So you gotta get out there and make your own thing thing that suits you. That's why I'm like, for real? A book just manifested into our hands called The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness and i want to steal it from our friend Demetrius so that we may read it! Okay! The genie will try not to kill you as long as its returned Wonderful Alright We'll read that and put on an episode of Spirit Side How was that? I forgot what I was talking about

18:40 How do you see Christ consciousness manifesting? I mean because you talk – and one of the, I think it's in the history movie. You talk about the grid, the Christ consciousness grid activating… can you elaborate on that? It's not going to be something that people look up into the sky and see something and go, whoa! And then it is like, that is Christ consciousness. It is here. It is back. It is going to be something that is activated within the hearts of individuals. I think the change is going to be very internal in how people are thinking, how they understand reality and how they go about their lives and interact with each other.

19:22 Do you think the Occupy movement is at all tied to The Awakening? All of it is. We're just pushing further and further on the awareness front, and people are continually talking about more and more things. It's not starting know the big discussion is not right now you know christ consciousness and an evolution of consciousness although it's you know picking up in our communities uh... in the kind of modern society to you know bubble that is still existing people are so they're talking about you know the well gap in the how people are doing things in the world in a way that but i guess the social structure nothing i think try was really good for that because tried talk all about

20:06 not so much the evolution of consciousness but the evolution of energy and how we are functioning as a society all together. And that was really, I think that altogether with talking about sacred geometry is going to bridge a lot of gaps between people who are not spiritually interested and then maybe if they see that then they'll learn about sacred geometry if they can see something in there new that they haven't seen before, that might get them to start looking further. Because the thing with sacred geometry is that it's not just like the flower of life — that's not just the pattern of creation but that's the pattern of you. That is the biological pattern that you flow through geometrically and if you work with the patterns and you work with sacred geometry

20:51 you can connect with the basic geometries of the universe and feel how they flow through your own being. And that is something very magical, I think. Do you guys think that the 13 families or the global elite... do you think these people are knowledgeable in these areas? Or do you think they're stuck in a greed paradigm you know, that's why they facilitate the kind of reality there. I would say both! At the very very very tippy top they're using like dark magic so like...I mean i don't know if you've ever looked at kind of like occult stuff but there's kind of two sides where Freemasonry went and their exploration of the universe an equilibrium in balance

21:35 stability and stuff, and then there's kind of this other side that uses the pentagram to control and manipulate the electromagnetic fields and electromagnetic forces of things. And you know I guess from my research—and this goes into all this like conspiracy theory stuff—but I would say that there is definitely some being like, like beings at the very top of the pyramid and in even even in higher frequencies that are placing an influence on the course of us have our Growth so, you know they're doing that and then kind of like one step down on that pyramid It's this massive bubble of greed. That is just surrounded by confusion and they don't really know what they want But they think it's you know all this money And then that kind of trickles down into the systems of modern society At least that's kind of what I feel it is Yeah

22:31 I tend to agree. I mean, I'm a lot more like...I research from a lot more into the conspiracy side and not so much into the New Age side or the New Age philosophy but that's what I like about spirit science is it does do a good job of blending both almost because you definitely hint at the fact that NASA doesn't want us to know certain things that you're talking about in spirit science I think they're definitely relatable, but I just have a hard time because I'm not much of a meditator or I've never had an astral projection. I've had a psychedelic experience that was out-of-body which was pretty life changing but... I haven't had a lot of the personal experiences to it so its easier for me to look at you know

23:12 Something like the Council on foreign relations and see how they influence us rather than the internal or the spiritual side I recommend meditation personally if you're looking for spiritual experiences and kind of going deeper into yourself Meditation is a great place to start um, and I would actually we've just been lately We've been reading this book called living in the heart by dream below my pisa deck He also is the one who did the flower black books amazing It is amazing. You've got to read that book, it shows you exactly why and how you should meditate in this way and the place that you intend to find. It gives you a whole paradigm and system to work at. We're going to be doing a lot of episodes in Spirit Science about the heart like the power of the heart what is the heart

23:56 You know it everything kind of comes from the heart and everyone thinks that you know your brain is your center but it's not and when you kind of move your consciousness into your heart, you can do absolutely magical things. And one of the most amazing things I think is that when there's a sacred space of the heart then there's a space within the heart that if science tried to poke a needle into or something or touch they would die and you die instantly from touching the space, but you can move your consciousness into this space. Through doing this meditation that dream below provides you can kind of access this internal world of yourself In your own heart that you can kind of do and create and be anything you want So you can exist in nature like like Jim below described it as he discovered a cave He went into his heart space, and he discovered this this cave world where? And there was kind of these pictures on the world Pictures on the wall of these memories and stuff and then there was like this fountain and all this water. That was shooting out

24:55 and the more that he kind of went into the space and explored it, he discovered a surface world like this entire planet that existed within his own heart. So its kinda reflection if you are consciousness, you are God then the entire world externally is also mirrored internally and you have an entire world internally that you can also exist within So we've been kind of doing this meditation on and off because we've just been traveling around and stuff, but I've experienced personally some really powerful emotions going into the space. And everyone experiences it differently so i'm still working with it personally.

25:38 really intense experience as well. But yeah, it's really mind-blowing and interesting to even think about. I think if you're really deeply going into finding out stuff that is happening overseas, no problems in the world or things that bankers are doing wrong to it's gonna bring up all these feelings of deceit and cunning in you know if you need funding more energy into the spheres that you don't want to live anymore so going into the heart and going with the self uh... focuses the energy in place that you do one everything they come from rather than very basics you can see where the results are gonna show up absolutely that's fair do you get a night when he has meditated here you go are u

26:19 doing it to the point of our body experience that's one thing and we've got we travel some people that uh... experienced them quite regularly but with honestly would be numb recently just plugging away at this audio tape that we go with drum below from the book living in a hot and then follow the heart meditation goes straight into the heart and then feel that sacred space and um... there's been A couple of the audio books and things like that, that Jordan's got on his iPad. That talks about third eye meditation And a few really good stuff as well Again we're going to do spirit science episodes and all this stuff

26:57 Now, have you guys done... because it's not I don't think it's ever mentioned in spirit science but have you had any psychedelic experiences? Yeah that's a touchy subject. Why is it touchy isn't it? It means really just a tool. It's kind of like like I have friends who do meditation and then I've done the psychedelic method and they equate to they wade into a pool whereas the psychedelic is just jumping off a diving board straight in you know your problem if you're gonna experience something strange but you might not have the uh... the training necessary to bring it into your everyday life absolutely i think me because you know you can't go when they come to the psychedelic experience is only you can only talk with someone about what it is within person is i think it's ridiculous that he could ever place rules of in a dog on this and say to some of the economy personal elaine tagore experience let them be armed

27:52 What happens is something that happens that you have to practice, something that you get better at. It's like a taxi takes you to a place and then you can figure out how to get there alone but taking the taxi you also see other things in the way and you're in a different space. You're sitting in a seat rather than walking so you've got time just think about some stuff. It's a different experience. That's a wonderful experience! And I like it and I'll do until I see that there is no more benefit there How do you guys feel? Well, I mean for Tori and I we don't necessarily need psychedelics because most females... You know the female vessel is already plugged in. In certain aspects it's good when you're trying to communicate with that specific spirit like ayahuasca The spirit that is in that plant is the mama earth

28:49 So, when you're trying to better connect with her in doing ayahuasca it'll be much more clear communication than if you're doing it on your own. If you're not clear yourself so like... Right. ...if you have all this baggage and your mind is overtaking you moreso than your heart, doing these medicines is a good way to get that taste for it. But when you're doing these medicines, you're cutting off the human part of your brain so transferring those lessons that you gained in your spirit part of your mind into your human part of your mind is going to be kind of difficult So I do urge people who do do

29:38 who do medicines and things like that to, after or during your experience write it down if you can. I mean some of the times that I've done medicines I can't move. And then often... Wow! Yeah well because people like me we're already so plugged in and that the experience is just Overkill? Yeah, like I'm overloading my motherboard. Because I walk down the street and see stuff already. How do you think you developed yourself to that level?

30:22 Yeah, I mean that's a whole other conversation. But what I am...I already came through the veil with all of my stuff not all of it but a lot of it so I can tap in pretty easy. Luckily for me the environment I grew up and I was able to function in society and utilize my quote-unquote gifts But all that's being a lot more accepted now in society. So, people... Sorry? Well I was saying how would you suggest someone who doesn't have a lot of experience or is looking for validation through a personal experience of say communicating with the higher self or with some spirit guide or whatever term you want to use like how

31:12 How do you think is the best method of going about that? Meditation. Well, first you start off with not having a specific idea how it's supposed to happen because everyone plugs in differently and some people more similar than others but I feel like a lot of people who aren't having these experiences is because they expect it to be this specific way and a lot A lot of these things that they're experiencing naturally, I mean even like the sensation of eating. That is a form of communicating with spirit you know? You're ingesting a part of spirit

31:51 And if you can listen to the food as it's entering in your mouth, you're going to hear it. The essence of the food. Like everything in this world is communicating and is like quote-unquote a psychedelic experience We've just been trained not to see it You have a green thing glowing on your shoulder. Word! I heard a really good thing in the third eye activation book that I told you about before, if you're expecting that a deity like... you're trying to imagine how one would come to you or how an angel would come and

32:27 with you and share its insights with you. If that ever happens, after you've had that kind of grounding for it there's the possibility that you think its a creation of mind because you wanted to happen and then you just kept on excelling through your meditative states so really the best thing to do is just to do it for yourself like the meditative process and then if it happens, then it was meant to happen. But yeah to expect that to happen is like asking the universe to change their plans because there's a time for everything and really just got to let it be as it is and that's a lesson you can take into much larger life as well And also I don't think people need to be asking... Well some people do but Don't ask your guides and external things To show themselves or things like that Ask yourself to see them

33:18 Like, literally be like hey so Lily can we go experience this and see these beings? First you have to create a healthy relationship with yourself and this human vessel. You've got to work with the vessel in order to experience other things. So asking yourself I think is a good first step too. It seems like the answers to a lot of the questions are simply just do it yourself, to actually try and get the experience. And then Alambra King mentioned something about amateurism earlier and this is a theory that I've had is that this shift has to do with the amateur and expert, that distinction collapsing. When someone becomes an expert now anyone can be...it's horizontal footing we're all on there's no more hierarchy

34:10 Yes, well said. That's an interesting idea. The internet does a lot of that because you've got people who are popping up with all their own websites and you're not going to MSNBC for expert news if you're going to alternative websites. And yeah that kind of contributes to the breaking down of that paradigm also. I mean we're all mousers The other thing though is that we're all students and we're all teachers. We are masters as well of whatever it is that you know, and ourselves. Maybe that's the key, master yourself but in terms of communicating with others and kind of learning and teaching and sharing You can't expect any one person to give you all the answers because you have to look within But you can also share everything that you know with others

35:01 you can learn from everyone else. I think that was in the Celestine Prophecy where it was like saying how absolutely every person that you meet has something for you to learn from them and when you confront Just everyone when you go about your day with that understanding you learn so much more And also third said In your wisdom he's talking about the people that on their enlightened path in your wisdom Don't feel pride when someone comes to you with there was which, you know You may feel is less than yours because wisdom is all and all knowledge Is the same and connected and it's all process and apart and someone may say something which you find

35:38 you know, judgment against but they may have other parts of themselves which are much higher than you in other areas because everyone's ignorant on some level. So you just really got to find your path and not worry about the rest I think also changing the way you say things, like when people come to me for advice or for therapy sessions. I always thank them for trusting me and having that sense of gratitude that they are coming to me. Gratitude and pride can sometimes be a fine line and feeling humbled in that You know, while these people are coming to me for information which means I'm going to be used as a vessel for Source to speak through. And then when you move into that space you start to flow more and you will see more and experience more and experience all entities and things like that."

36:34 Yeah, I mean really just haven't done the work. I've done the research but I haven't done the personal work. It's like – I've seen four seasons of Cake Boss but I wonder why my spiritual development is lacking? As much as this is an external learning it's also a very powerful internal learning And if you only are doing half of that work, then you're only getting half the experience. I guess it's a male and female balance. It is external as well as internal so you have to go within it if you want to accelerate and move forward at some point everyone will probably hit that wall

37:10 Yeah, and I mean you still have time. If you want to go off into the world there's still time to go back to your space that you've created like the job will always be there. Unless you quit it. Even if you quit it... and you go out into the world, the likelihood of you coming back and finding that same kind of job is high. If you desire that but when you come back you might not want it anymore. Yeah what I'm saying is like the fear... You probably never wanted it really in the first place yeah This is an awesome interview. I like being in this group. Yeah, it's great! I appreciate you guys coming out and doing this taking the time out of your day on your road trip Kyle do you have any questions for them before they go? I don't have any further questions i just want to say thank you so much You guys are doing a great job and much love and energy towards you And I hope everything is fortunate in your journeys

38:09 Astral hug! Namaste. Yeah, I look forward to seeing more work from you guys. If you guys are ever in San Diego, look me up! If you're in St Louis, look Kyle up! Yeah we'll come to San Diego! We're near... Really? That's fast! It's like two hours south of LA Oh, we're going south! Yeah it's two hours south of LA Beautiful! Can we stay a few days? Of course! I live with my girlfriend and our dog and our cat and yeah. Kyle was actually him and his wife were supposed to come out here and stay with us So yeah, I mean we're definitely open to like-minded people coming down. Yeah! Most of us are rooting in LA for a hot second so... Of course Well if your travel ever brings you down here look me up Absolutely it may be in the next few days

39:01 I'll see if i can clear my work schedule. Oh and um, if we could leave you with one more thing something that of course recently was to bless your food before you eat it It doesn't have to be like amen and god thank you for all this stuff just Like we did one. Thank mother thank the food for providing this yeah, well Yeah what we did recently was like We just we really held hands around the food and um sometimes like someone will find something to say and then that'll be where The energy shifts too but it's...We had one recently It was just quiet And then at the end which I said thank you and that Was no its perfect? And you really notice that You feel the essence of the food and you feel how much better you are afterwards its you know it's adding

39:40 amazing amounts of nutrients. Thanking your environment! You get people to do that in McDonald's, like put up signs around all the time? Please thank your food when you're done or start eating it... I mean those cows are going through so much. Or the Atlantis King will come and GET YOU! Nooo... It's a picture of you with like the threatening... Right. Alright guys, well hey thanks a lot I guess i'll let you guys go Absolutely. Namaste again. Hey of course keep your Merkavas strong guys! I