THC 105: Jordan Maxwell | The Conspiracy To Own You & The Occult Language Of Law

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats Holy hell, higher side chatters. Drinking a little drink, smoking a little smoke one to open up my mind the other just to cope from San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood the Doctor Seuss of the conspiracy world and if all the places you could go today we're going deep into the trenches that conspiracy goodness with a bonafide living legend anyone who's been apart in the underground info world in the past two decades he's been dishing the dirt on the global elite and spilling the beans on their many tools of control in there finely tuned matrix of power

01:01 So people might be a little surprised to hear from Mr. Maxwell because he's been pretty silent over the past year or so and he has had some really frustrating issues with his work and website being stolen, I'll let Jordan tell you about it but what we did was a pretty standard THC style hour long power plunge into the world that is hidden beneath the smoke and mirrors of society And then Jordan breaks down why we use the words and phrases we do, and how they subconsciously plant deep psychological subservience into the ignorant masses. Then I gave Jordan the floor to talk about the problems he's had in the past year... ...and I feel like it was pretty touching. I feel for the guy! He is asking for help This mess has been so hard on this man that he left the country and is staying with a friend in Central America. He has given his life to the conspiracy community Hopefully our community can show that were part of the next human evolution and WE DO GIVE A SHIT

01:49 And And that's that. But I loved the interview, it was a personal milestone for me right on the heels of Professor Griff which was a blast as well but i personally just love the way this guy breaks it down and I look forward to helping get him up and running however I can Now with that said its episode 105 which means I've picked a listener out of last few weeks donors at random and given them half of the pool donations which got all the way up to $715 if you remember just last episode we were only at 250 But the audience responded in a big way. You guys are the best audience and podcasting I'm fucking so lucky So i'm gonna play a short conversation ahead with Carl this round's winner and on the other side It's a wild ride of wisdom wordplay with the one and only Jordan Maxwell all right people, I'm here with yet another winner The money bomb Carls donated 10 bucks. I randomly picked his name and sent him back 357 50 Carl thanks for their donation man Congrats on winning the bomb

02:50 Awesome, you're welcome. Hi audience So man you're from Illinois but your living in Germany now? Yeah that's right I'm a graphic designer for the Edel Empire Milking the government tit for a few years to get a trip to Europe. So right on that's cool, though You've gotten further than I have For sure so People one thing they like to hear because you know these money bombs are made up of everyone's donations So have you given any thought to what you might do with the random 350? That's a lot bigger number than I was expecting Gonna give a big chunk back to the show Oh man

03:32 It's sort of a gift from the universe, so I want to write it as a gift to other people. So I'll probably support some other podcasts that I'm a fan of. For myself, I am going to try and pay off this etching press that I just bought so I can bring a little bit of chaos into the world if you are. Yeah man! So yeah, I did want to say real quick though. I was not planning on donating for this money bomb because I'm very near broke at the moment Mm-hmm and I remember you mentioned it is only that like $200 on last show Oh god, that's that sucks man. Okay money cuz um your shows become something I really do look forward to every week Oh Thanks

04:13 Yeah, everybody needs to know. You can't live off of like... because you're splitting that money too so you can't live off $200 a week and if you go back to the 9-5 world then the show's going to suffer I'd like to let the pirate generation keep that in mind it's a value for value system For sure, man. I appreciate that so much and yeah obviously when we're looking at these numbers We had a serious last-minute surge several people. I think three people donated $100 like just straight up and I was like blown away by that there was one a couple for 20 And yeah obviously we got all the way up to over little over 700 bucks So a lot of people must have had that mindset but I'm humbled and very thankful

04:59 Yeah, like I said you know. I'm not ashamed to admit that I only donated $10 so that's a pretty good turnover right there for me but... Um..I did intend to donate more on the next one and so I just wanted to give you what i could So I want to tell everyone they should do that too For sure man! I appreciate it Another thing I'd like to ask Money Bomb Winners is their favorite guest or topic you've heard on this show? Oh man all about esoteric so they're all good Douglas Dietrich's always fun, Freedom of Thought. Professor Griff was great! If you could just get a professor Grafton to kind of support his theories that'd be awesome but I don't know if the bad religion singer there does too many podcasts Yeah...I was a huge fan back in the day Oh yeah, saw him a couple months back

05:52 Right on, they're still kicking. So is there any topic or guest you'd like to see me get that I haven't yet covered? Um...I'm sort of on board with the um what's the project there with the Sightguys movie Oh The Venus Project Thank You yeah! I like that but I'm also very interested in a Stefan Melanews points and Adam Kokesh if you're familiar with them this sort of more anarcho-ish take on the whole system Yeah, Stefan Manalu he has put out some good stuff. He's got a video the history of your enslavement which is really brilliant I really love it so i vibe with him on that so much but I just don't think the free market is the answer but maybe he'd be worth having on. I do not know if you saw but Peter Joseph from the Zeitgeist Movement and him had a debate about free market capitalism which was pretty good its out there on YouTube You might want to check that out if you haven't

06:47 I like to hear all sides of the argument. For sure, well maybe i'll check them out! Maybe you know...maybe i'll have a debate with them? Well very cool man! Well I don't want to take up any more your time but thanks again for listening and throwing 10 bucks in the pot. I know that times are definitely tough so it means a lot and is a huge help to me so you're the man Carl take care yourself! No worries! Folks, we have been exploring this weird and wild world for over a hundred glorious episodes. And I have spoken to some amazing researchers on so many fascinating topics but today we have who i would consider one of the biggest most important and well-known names in the entire conspiracy community he's been seeking truth since 1959 has conducted dozens of seminars hosted

07:34 radio shows of his own, scribed many books and has been a guest on well over 600 written radio and television interviews and documentaries. If you're looking to understand and expose the hidden knowledge of the elite in the astro-theology origins of the world's religions, the occult rituals of secret societies, the symbolic architecture or the masons are the truth about damn near anything they don't want you to know today's guest is your man And that man is Jordan Maxwell It's an honor, a privilege, and a genuine pleasure to have him here Jordan my man welcome to THC Well, thank you very much for having me. Oh of course! The pleasure is definitely mine I'm super excited for this thanks for taking the time You know your a wealth of information and i am anxious to extract as much of it from you in the short time we have And there's so many great places that we could go but personally I was hoping that we could start with the framework of our legal system You've done alot of work on covering that and legalese and how we ended up under the thumb of this matrix of power To use the title of one of your books But how do end up in this mess?

08:33 Well, I'm not the world's authority on this at all. It is just that I have been made aware of it many years ago when I was far much more younger and didn't really appreciate the significance of the information such a young age but I remembered it and then later on I became aware that there were certain individuals I was meeting that were experts on the subject And so we became very close friends and I began listening a lot closer to the details of how the world really works. And that's what I would say starting off is, in fact that I'm not an authority on any of it. I just an ordinary man who has been privileged to be in the company of extraordinarily brilliant people for many many years on so many different subjects

09:31 And so in that particular subject I've met about five people, well more than that but five major people who were the real bottom line authorities from which everybody else has learned. And because I was a little older and began to appreciate deeper the things being said it became apparent to me there's a world of knowledge that's been hidden from the world at large, there's an enormous amount of knowledge that never been discussed about where and where things come from. How the world actually in fact works? The only thing I would tell you is 74 years old then looking at this stuff for 53-54 years now

10:30 You want to go with you about is nothing in this world works the way i think it does nothing, what do you think it's just a year ago when i was a little kid so i got all your whole world smoking mirrors and smoke and mirrors are heard that. I don't know where was that would you take it as a spoken words but i often wonder what are you talking about it's all spoken here is your account for possible regular that's not smoke on there so there is a real world out there and i never understood what are you talking about what was going to stand yes smoking mirrors in bed, so much is from you educated particular subject then you don't know what's going on and i have said so often.

11:29 You don't have any airline pilots, have lost everything in the stock market or how many neurosurgeons and doctors have lost everything in real estate. So just because you're good at what you do doesn't mean that somebody else knows and their field So if you're really wise and learn something at life, if you are a genius of mathematical genius but it needs to have an operation you need to go through a doctor who knows how do what you need. So you need to understand just because you think your smart don't battle with the really bright and powerful people in this world pay large sums of money for other people who they know are far smarter than they are

12:19 The Donald Trumps have people around them that know law and know real estate, and know the laws far better than they do. And that's why they're paying large salaries to sit next to the boss and tell him what he can and can't do." And so I learned that a long time ago, just because you think you know something. You better go back and do your homework because you're going to find out when you finally get into federal court or finally get into some kind of serious legal situation at the courtroom And you're going to find out what you didn't know. You thought that this, and you thought you had that, and you thought you understood Now you find out no the legal words means that you lose or your going to jail because you thought you understood The words that use in a court are not the same they don't mean the same on the street That's why you have to have lawyer speak for you Because you don't understand court language

13:23 God knows a lot of people have heard me say this and I'm saying it again. Why do you have to go to court? To start with, we got to court because the whole idea is called the commerce game. Look it up in a dictionary or look it up on the web just type in the word commerce game and you will see that commerce in the world of business is a game. In any game there are going to be losers and winners and so we call the losers debtors, the winners are called creditors. Creditors and debtors in business and you either make money on top of something or your lost money and you owe it to those winners and losers. So when you go to court is like playing basketball or tennis on a court

14:22 So how do you play tennis on the court where you play with a racket yeah get it words terms symbols colors all kinds of hidden, persuaders hidden ideas and concepts in words that's why the attorney will tell you. When is signing your contract be sure to read the data design or the data line and really define print which I haven't done and a lot of people else haven't done. It's not that I understood what I was doing, it signed something and then found out just lost everything but an attorney would tell you to sign on the dotted line uh...and read the fine print What is he talking about? He is talking about when you signed a check You signed on the bottom one And if you look at it

15:31 The bottom line looks like a lot of dots so you're signing on the dotted line but get a magnifying glass and look at the light that your signing will find out there not dots their letters. Really yes is that what the attorney says read the fine print, Yeah, read the line you're writing on. Get a magnifying glass and read it! And now you see when your name is put on that line You are signatory to what that line says Go get a magnifying glass and look at the check and see what is said in the fine print and then when you signed it, you become known as a signatory

16:23 What you just read so most people sign on the dotted line and did not read the fire print and had no idea in the world. What they were signing up for and then you find out it has to do with maritime apathy, and then they can say what you cited someone in england a check because you just wrote a check to us right mate yeah okay see you just want to set chat play And when you have a bait, when you have a bait on board ship. Ships have baits

17:00 Well, yes. That's kind of where it gets into the really interesting thread that I've heard you talk about before is the law of land versus the law of sea and all commerce and all these transactions as part of a network maritime law can explain that a little more? Yeah, maritime simply means of the ocean in America there is concept that's called Maritime Admiralty. And it works all around the world, it works all over the world but it is called maritime admiralty there are two things on this earth that compose the earth only if you go out in space and look back at the Earth there are 2 things you see water and land period so either have water or you have land and so the land they're two different kinds of law then

17:55 There are two totally different kinds of law, the law of the land and the law of the sea. And so we've heard that term Law Of The Land. Why you can't do this? Because that's the law of the land. Well, Law Of The Land simply broken down simply means a law of the culture of the people who live on a particular spot of land So in China they have their own culture, their own way of doing things. We call it the law of the land. In Rome, do as Romans did. If you're going to live in China or Africa or Asia

18:33 or anywhere else in Russia, you have to learn the customs of the people and how they think and how they do business. So that's the law on me and how they think that's a lot of the land because people live off land however there is a second law that's far more important it's the Law of Water because water is everywhere so the Law of Water is referred to as maritime approaching Commerce is business businesses banking so thanks operate under the law of water. That's why money goes through your hands like water no money is water it's the cash flow liquid asset liquid yeah and so what you get to proceed

19:34 the hidden implications of words and terms that we use every day, and never for a moment question why do we use these terms. Well anytime you're dealing in commerce or business money look up the word commerce in a law dictionary Where is most people like business well yes that's what interpretation but the very first understanding of commerce and a lot dictionary. Is sex sex sex is referred to as commerce look at all the action there so that that's why

20:25 So that's why if you are, when I see you with some young woman that I know. I say to you this girl on your web is very bad company and she's bad company and you say mind your own business we're going to get married and she's gonna be my partner. Partner? Business? Company? We're talking about a business here! That's right and what i'm doing is none of your business So, you know mind your own business. She's my partner. And this gets into how it affects the individuals because we hear about when you're born there is a public you and private you This gets into that same thread right? How does this stuff affect the individual Well yeah so that true When your born The first thing that the hospital does

21:25 is that they take and roll some ink on the bottom of the baby's foot, and take an imprint or a photocopy whatever you want to call it. Of the baby's foot both feet why? It's because that what your soul is They now own your soul Yeah! It's the soul of your foot And so they know by law have Your soul, they own you. And this is before you even put your foot on land because once a human's foot touches land, once you start to walk, you are now referred to in international law as the man on the land

22:17 You are now a human creature that has been endowed with certain privileges and rights given to you by the Creator. But until you put your foot on land, ... you have no standing in law! So therefore you have to be represented by a lawyer who has passed the bar and he is standing his feet are on the ground So it's a very interesting, but I guess the word is arcane or occult. Occult simply means hidden. Right. In a dictionary nothing evil about it and means hidden and so much of real wisdom and knowledge does your legitimate wisdom knowledge understanding has been hidden

23:11 Just as your parents have obviously hidden a lot of stuff from you when you were a child. You don't need to know about their private life, you don't need to know about your father's business when you're six years old all you need to know is who the boss is that's all you need to know and so... you are not being told by your superiors well the same thing as you grow up All adults today are grown-up children And so we have to have a parent who takes care of us. Well, there is a law in international law that's called Parantitrus. I think I'm saying that right? There is a law now, you can look it up on the dictionary and that means in Latin, the government is your parent

24:07 It actually owns you, the government actually in fact point of fact lawfully and any good constitutional attorney and any good lawyer that's honest with you intellectually honest will tell you yes in point of fact the government does own your body. period rights so you can take whatever you want if your eggplant elephant for the red and poppers in arizona, i know everything there is to know about everything at all world that go on and believe what ever you want. But the bottom line is there will come a day when you will find out you were not the boss and the master of your own destiny. You will find that police can come in, break down your door arresting and put you in jail why? Because you don't own you if you owned you nobody could talk to nobody could touch you but you don't own you when you were born

25:09 you are owned as a maritime admiralty product under international maritime admiralty law. That's the way the law works and until and unless you educate yourself, as to how this stuff really works what the words mean how does system actually work? You're never going to figure out what is going on here And it has all been hidden You want to see the whole of these subjects are what i call need to know and you don't need to know all you need to do is go your job. I watch basketball like all the others in the ballgame drinking beer, have a good time and go party that's all you need to know until your masters get ready for you when your master wants they will call like the king

26:09 The king lets you do anything you want, having fun drinking a beer and street fights. Play with your motorcycles or all your silly games that you do in life until the authorities come for you. When they come for you they come with heavy iron boots and for the first time you find out you thought you were Al Capone You thought you were invincible, you are John God You thought you were invisible but you are somebody you are nobody and they always get those guys with taxes to try all you gotta do is mess up one time that i got five hundred things they can bring you in. Play out there what the kids play in the sandbox,

26:56 But if he gets out of line and disturbs me, I'm going to go out the play box and do a number on that kid. He's never gonna forget it." And so that is the way it works in this world. They don't care how smart you think you are or if you got a law degree You have no idea where the word degree comes from what the word law means in ancient tongue When a guy goes to college and becomes an attorney or lawyer, there's a big difference between an attorney and lawyer. One practices in law one practices at law that is why when you get married you have in-laws

27:37 I don't know where to start because this is such a good story. working, but I want to know who's doing all this. Who is really in charge? Because we have guests who say it's the secret societies or the royal families or the Vatican or Jewish banking families and even the reptilians and it all seems a little hazy for me But where do you think the real power lies in modern times? Where did this get laid down on us? Yeah, well its a little hazy for me too. I've been looking at it 50 years It still hasy for me Uh...I think that because the system is so old Nothing

28:29 comes out of a vacuum. Nothing, you know? You did not come into the world in an immaculate conception. You had a mother and father well how did they get here? Well they had a mother and father! How did your grandfather get here? Well he had a mother and father so nothing appears in this world that doesn't have history And so the presence of the power is dark the dark powers that are behind the world scenes, that the politicians and especially in a higher up one with very top politicians. They know what's going on. They know they have masters and they understand them and they work with it because of that, they're able to do certain things and able to officiate over certain things always keeping in mind that there are

29:30 Hidden powers that are watching them right and at any time those hidden powers decide that you have served your purpose You will you will be removed now if you Feel like Nixon they will remove you the hidden powers would move you by disgracing you and having Senate hearings to expose Or if you are really smart, well-financed which Nixon wasn't but if you're really smart and well financed and protected like John Kennedy. Well okay we'll just whack them. We'll just blow their brains out! Now what is the country going to do about that? What are they gonna do about it? You know presidents break down in public now what are they gonna do about that? Well somebody's gonna go to jail who?!

30:24 Well, you know Lee Harvey Oswald. Okay then we'll kill him So now who's gonna go to jail? Well the guy is the guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald He probably knew something well that will kill him Now what you're going to do about that so nobody period goes to jail for killing Kennedy period why it's because The powers that be behind the world throne have been there for thousands of years. That's why, you know? That's why your father when he was five years old was far more superior to you than you will ever imagine You can't do much of anything He is a boss period and obviously at work he has bosses too And those guys who are his bosses they have bosses

31:21 So that's the way it works. You go up to the pyramid, we're on the bottom of the pyramid and you work your way up until you get up to Donald Trumps and then from there you get into the international bankers and from the international bankers you get into people who run the international bankers The Vatican, the Jesuits in the Vatican Then from there you go behind the Vatican To the Roman Empire, to the Caesars of Rome And behind the Caesars of Rome, you have the Pisos family, spelled P-I-C-O-S. Arius Copernicus Pisos and the Pisos family who were the powers, the international illuminati powers behind the Caesar's of Rome The Caesar who ruled Rome as emperors was not God They thought they were god until one of the caesars got killed by their son

32:20 So when you understand, you keep going up in power. The higher up we go the more powerful the people are and like Michael Carleone said in Godfather 3 at the end of the movie in godfather three Michael was sitting on a porch with his sister and he says some profound things The one thing he says at the end of Godfather 3, he says to his sister. You know all my life I have always assumed that the higher up you go in society the more correct and lawful things have to be Now i look back on my life and realize it's just the opposite Meaning the higher up you go in this world the more criminal it is

33:14 until you get to the top of the heap and there you find the real criminals. These people do not rob with a gun and take 50 bucks from you, no they rob nations! They take gold from South Africa, they take diamonds, they take oil from Middle East It's lust is lust. You're looking at the girls butt while they are looking at the bauxite mines in South Africa, so it's the same thing. Very powerful men have very powerful tastes

33:54 and what you want that new car they want alaska. Yeah so is this just a human going all the way up to the worst humans on your period, no i personally it's just my opinion but i personally believe at the top of the world go off the top of the pyramid to the very tip of the top, the most powerful on Earth are not human. I believe they are extraterrestrial meaning they're not from here They may look like humans if you ever met one which you won't I can go into a lot of stories about that

34:40 My wife, when I met her in 1967 and got married in 67. That's a lifetime ago she was working as a secretary for a mafia Don in Los Angeles and I met him she was his secretary but she was just an ordinary secretary you know working for very powerful man but she knew who he was and I learned when I get married But he and I used to sit and chit chat, talk and go out for breakfast or lunch because he liked me. Because he like talking with me And i liked him because he was very generous and kind and courteous to my wife So we had a very nice relationship but i know who he is

35:31 And when he would tell me things about the, about mafia and La Cosa Nostra and the international crime syndicates of which he was a major player. Uh-huh. He would tell me, he would tell me, he'd say Jordan look at it, the real people who run this world you and the world at large will never in all your life you will never ever hear their names see their faces or know anything about them Period. Ever! Not the government, not the president, not the FBI... Nobody! The guys who run this planet are in places you don't even know exist and they call the shots and you better believe that people who run this planet are perilous and out of sight

36:27 So don't even worry about trying to figure it out because you aint never going to figure this out. And so I realized, yeah he's right because everybody has a boss and that boss has a boss how high up does it go? Well I am of the opinion and I'm an old man looking at it for 54 years I love the opinion that if you keep having bosses over bosses over bosses eventually your gonna get back to God Eventually you're going to get back to the divine presence, the spiritual dark powers of the air like the Bible speaks up. And all the religions and all the religions in the world today acknowledge that there are unseen powers around us

37:16 Christians call them demons, devils and spirits and ghosts. And Jews call them you know, Rav Yom and all kinds of words in Hebrew. In the Islamic world they're called djinns or genies I don't care what you call it whatever it is not this world but they are here and they see you, you don't see them. And they let you think that your in power but they will deal with you anytime they please so if you mess up spiritually and they will bring you down big time because you don't know who they are You dont know what they can do Yeah That's why i would advise anybody listening to me If you have any uh put any store by my words

38:10 I would suggest no one have anything to do with an Ouija board. Because a Ouija board is probably one of the worst things that human can touch. Why is that? It's like giving a child a hand grenade and pulling the pin on it, and then putting in his hand and grasping his hand around the grenade and telling him he can play with it What is the release of that number all the world is gonna come to him for help what does the same thing i consider the only job or to be as like a head when they, in your hand and you have no idea where are you asking for. I want you looking to do and when it happens then you'll find out but its way too late

39:05 So, Ouija boards are one... and there's all kinds of dark arts in all the secret societies with their rituals. Blood rituals and human sacrifices and killing babies If you want a taste of that You can go to the movie Eyes Wide Shut Right And watch that with intellectual Watched out with a brain Because the Bible says you have eyes that do not see, and you have ears that do no hear. And with your heart you don't get a sense of it So if you want to go back and see what I'm talking about, say we're talking about the dark side Go watch the movie Eyes Wide Shut with intellectual acumen

39:57 What's up with your eyes wide open because that was the producer saying you're looking at the world would your eyes why shot, you know what's going on you have got a famous idea and the world are your mother and father and you and your brother and your wife and children are old. Your body as a security on the new york stock exchange and you have no idea how it works you never were told. And because your arrogance self-centered egotistical know what all of us, you would never even consider the fact that anybody only do well you got another thing coming so you better look at your children at your wife, your family your mother everybody on this earth is old

40:50 Because we are all part of a system this systems been around for thousands of years replicating itself evolving and mutating and becoming more and more professional With computers now at all kinds of high technology But the system is the same. It's the same old system of commerce sex that was developed in the ancient world, going back to far before the Grecian Empire. Way before Rome. Going back into the ancient Phoenician Canaanite systems and to ancient India, to the Hindu systems

41:35 into Egypt, the Egyptian magical system of commerce. You better wake up and find out that what's going on in this earth has been going on for thousands of years perfecting itself! The Egyptians perfected their magical connections to money, to human resources they knew about maritime law they knew about the law of the sea It's a hell of a story. Yeah, it definitely is and there are so many different threads to it It takes a lifetime man and you've definitely spent your time doing that but... And I'm taking 42 believe me Right? Another area I am really interested in that you just kind of alluded too Is these otherworldly entities where they tie-in with the elite because

42:31 We hear stories and I've had guests who talk about high up there on the pyramid, there seems to be some otherworldly entities that the elite still worship. That they consider superior and um... They better! Yeah it's just so weird because- Because they are superior Right and they keep them so secret from us like who are they uh Who are the elite worshipping? Well look at first of all Uh I tend to I want to say this right so people don't go out and say, but I tend to appreciate and understand. It doesn't mean that happy with it. That doesn't mean I agree with it, but at least intellectually astute enough to understand them and to appreciate the concept that the elite there's a reason why we call them L-elite

43:32 are not sharing this kind of knowledge and they have their own world of worshiping, and their own world that they live in. But I am of the opinion that I understand the elite's conceptual ideas about why they don't tell us... Why we're not being informed? And why they, the elite form themselves into secret societies Let me explain! That is what you do You do the same thing that they do. They just do it better than you, they do it on a bigger scale than you and when I say you, I mean the world of mankind all over the state. Regular humans will steal a couple bucks here or lie about a couple bucks there on their income tax or keep something that they know is not theirs but its not that big deal well thats what they do! They steal the Vox Hyperion from Africa

44:31 You know, they steal the gold mines from California. It's not that big a thing but so it's the same. They're just big and what we are is small and so when you understand how the elite think I understand it. I'm not happy with them but I understand that they, the elite look at us, the people for and see in fact what we are and they treat us accordingly, like you. You have your personal friends that you like that are into...that are in the same wavelength as you are That you can talk to, that you can have fun with And if they understand what you don't understand then so you get along with them great. You're nice to other people but you have your personal friends that you enjoy being around Why? Because they're like you! You're like them They're like you The same thing for the elite

45:32 they deal with the world that they feel but they have a special secret group and i understand it, i do too. I am i have a handful of people around me that are my personal friends for many years, i love them dearly, i trust them with my life and we've been friends for many years and thats just the way it is humans have friends and good friends real friends And so do they, the elite. But they realize that they don't want you in their personal company because first of all you're not on their level You don't have the money they have, you don't have the experience that they have, you don't have a position or authority as a matter fact you don't have much of anything that they had

46:27 So in what way would they be wanting your company? The same thing is true with people tell me all the time when I'm talking about UFOs, which are one of my favorite subjects. But people will say to me if there are aliens here why don't they come down and show themselves and talk to us you know and explain it so that we would understand which i answer and say look at what you are i don't want to talk to you i don't even like your company by yourself when you're like you.

47:07 I wouldn't give you the time of day so can you imagine someone who is so far superior to you and has evolved one hundred million years ago on another planet in another world that is so far superior to you that they look like god. Why would they want to come down where was the last time you sat down on a sidewalk in your city and try to discuss ice ice theory relativity to an ad calling. Why would why would you make yourself look like a fool trying to talk to ads,

47:45 Well, why would alien life forms who are millions of years in our future probably far smarter than we are because they came here. We didn't go there They found us in this god incredible huge universe, they found us. We didn't find them! We got our little Mickey Mouse dishes out there looking for Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse while these entities have come from millions of light years away They are far superior to you They have no intentions of talking with you They may eat you but they're not interested in conversing with you Well the same thing is true for the elite in this world who are running the planet

48:27 They don't have time to be in your company, to enlighten you. And the most important reason why is because they know that you're too stupid, you're too ill-informed, unread, self centered, egotistical, self aggrandizing ignorant And you have no respect whatsoever for power, for knowledge, for wisdom. You're just good for your baseball games and your beer drinking and parties... ...and worrying about taxes and paying bills and arguing with your wife and slapping kids. So why would higher intelligent people in this world have anything to do with you?

49:15 They view us as useless eaters. which actually in point of fact begins to look like the case. We just keep reproducing ourselves on the earth by the millions and those millions have millions more babies, and more babies have more babies until one day you got seven-and-a-half billion people which are going to replicate themselves and reproduce themselves into 14 billion people. That 14 billion people will replicate and reproduce themselves into 28 billion people. And the best part about it is that the 28 billions of people, will look at the world that they live in just like has always been here we've always had 7-11 stores, we've always had grocery markets

50:08 We've always had a new car dealership. This is the way the world has always been for 1400,000 years is we've always had grocery stores and supermarkets and sears and fresh water and baby diapers. We've always had that or at least 500,000 years. And it will always be the same. Well, I got news for you son! You better wake up and find out America has not always been here. Over 250 years ago there was no United States of America. There was no freedom

50:47 And I got news for you, what you thought you had is gone. You are not free we're not living in the land of the free and home with a brain like Dick Rickards says you ain't free or brave. You are owned. If you don't think so go out and try it So the point I'm making, that's why you have to have a permit to do this. You've gotta have a permit to mow your lawns. You gotta have a license to do this. You gotta have a license to do that. You've gotta check with the county board of commissioners if you're gonna do this. You've gotta check with the secretary of state if you're going to do that. You are in a system and that system has come down to us from thousands of years ago our monetary system

51:35 You know when you're writing on a piece of paper the amount of money, you always put in front of the amount but a little what's the word i'm looking for a little icon which symbolizes money right and it looks like an s with a line to it. and sometimes it's got two I's through the S. You understand what i'm talking about? Right, right Okay Well originally... It was not two lines Originally if you go back to the reference books and look it up like I do you will find that it was not 2 lines, it was 1 line Okay And so you have a s with one line through it The line is the letter I

52:27 And the S stands for, it's I-S. Is that what is is? IS. IS stands for insurance script like scripture something you write so I is insurance and s is script So money as referred to an international elitist circle not for us but the guys who run the planet It's called insurance script insurance came into being in eighteen seventy one before your great grandma was born and it was called insurance scrub, add a space on the idea that you're body physical body is worth money. You are what we call slavery no i can buy and we still have slavery anyway slavery has not gone now by our prostitute what does that is slavery

53:29 She's selling herself to you for money. Well, the same thing you do when you go to work is selling yourself to someone else and for eight hours they own you. You don't tell them they tell you and so it's all based on commerce. Commerce is sex within also if you look at a dictionary like in a law dictionary all of our laws are under the auspices what we call the Congress. Congress regulates commerce, the word congress which regulates commerce. Commerce is sex. Congress means in a law dictionary sex. Look it up in a law dictionary look up to word congress and that's why you have an act of congress its a sexual act

54:32 And so, yeah. It all has to do with water maritime apathy because you are 72% water and so since you are a... Yeah! You're water product and you are biological battery You have an electrical system in your body i don't know if you understand that but your heart is beating because of the electrical impulse, your muscles move your legs and arms did you live because electricity right now. L leaves l like to get elected with electricity so far my thinking

55:15 So you are a biological battery. So when we go into court, that's why you have a fence and gate in the court People going to court never ever suspecting that the reason why they're sitting on this side of the fence And then when your called, you get out and walk through the gate Now you're in hot water and somebody's going to have to bail you out. So if you can't make bail, then they're gonna put you in a battery that's called a cell so they're gonna put you in the cell because your maritime apathy water product and they're gonna put you as an electrical unit, they are going to put you in a cell thats what we call batteries right? And so all of this has to do with an arcane occult hidden

56:13 world of knowledge which most people on the earth don't even begin to understand a word about much less any implications of it. So I'm saying that when you go into a bank Why do you have to put money into a bank and where did the word money come from? Well all of this sounds like, all of this I know sounds like trivia pursuit. Well if you think it's trivia wait until they bring your butt into federal courtroom Wait until you are summoned by the federal government and get a letter from the Department of Justice that you were being indicted under federal law, and you'll see how trivial this information and knowledge is.

57:00 Well the first time you wake up and find out, son. You're not living in a trivial world there are people who own you and they all allowing you to have fun and do your beer drinking and go to ball games as long as you remember who the boss is And so my kind of knowledge is not trivia It's deadly Once you understand how this world works at where it all came from what the words really mean How does world system actually works then you're gonna say this not trivia this is deadly. This is real stuff that's what makes a big deal with over fifty years of people most people here we have no idea the implications of what i'm talking about but it has seventy four years old i don't care anymore just do what i do if you start up to figure out when i'm talking about wake up,

57:59 Then what are you doing if your not smart i don't care so why do we get somebody supposed to hear me well they're not suppose to hear me that won't i leave that up to god i dont care, i just do what i need to understand the drone like space water and soul. You came down the birth canal in your mother's water broke So you came out of your mother's water. And so you came out as a maritime water product, you came down the canal and the water broke and now you are a maritime apple tea product with 74% water. Wake up!

58:44 Therefore, if you're going to live in this world you've gotta be on a ship. Because the Earth is considered under international law in Europe The Earth is considered the ship in space It's called a vessel A vessel in space that we are on a ship it's called a spaceship We are sailing through the universe on a vessel This is why you are sailing through life through a blood vessel Your blood is your vessel, your body is a vessel and the blood is the water on which you are floating in life. So you have a blood vessel You are a vessel And so since you're a vessel that means you're ship! So if you gonna be alive and work with us live with us here then you gonna be a citizen-ship. So you have to join a citizenship and then you can get a scholarship courtship

59:44 You know go down the line a dealership all kinds look at all the words that in this ship I mean, I had a whole about 30 or 40 of them right companionship scholarship marksmanship You know there's all kinds of ships. Why does the whole world works on water? period Where do you find a bank when you go to the side of the dotted line that you didn't read the bottom where are you fine what is your final bag, how many people gonna back it up no idea what were the word bank comes from first of all the bank is on both sides of the river call a riverbank.

1:00:34 What is the river bank do it directs the flow of the current. Yeah because your money is liquid asset as a current, add and flow take some in put some out comes yet goes out what you understand that you are a product human develop product your mother first of all your father man am i a bad you factor u and your mother was in the delivery room delivered the product. Yeah it's just a little bit she is in labor while building you choose that labor delivering the product

1:01:24 that your father manufactured. Get it? Yeah, man! And so once you see that and then you will become a maritime apathy product money goes through your head like water You are in order to be a good Christian you have to be baptized which means you have to go back into the lake or into the pool and go back into your mother's water Go back into Mother Earth, mother nature. The earth is your mother so you go back to your mother's water to be born again get it? So when you begin to see how religion works how the churches work what is a synagogue where do mosques come from who are the Islamic peoples why did we call them Arabic

1:02:16 What is evil? What do these words mean all I'm telling you is the entire world you live under, You don't understand nothing. Right and in terms of us being products you mentioned this earlier that each person has traded on the New York Stock Exchange That's right How literal is that and who's trading us International banks who own you The corporations that owns you Well, that's a whole story in itself. Just go on the web to US, just type in this US is a corporation. That's all. Very simple. Go on the web, US is a corporation and read it all and then go on YouTube

1:03:05 I'm tired of the same thing you as a corporation listen to the next five hundred hours explaining how it's been there thousand all kinds of experts around the world explain maritime apathy, corporations how the government work out thanks for where do we get the word money from the console my company got us no i don't know alaska. When Juno in Rome, there was a goddess named Juno Bonita. And Juno Bonita had a temple on something called Capitoline Hill. Capitoline Hill in Rome was the seat of power for Caesar. Caesar ruled the Roman Empire from a place called Capitoline Hill

1:04:01 in English is called Capitol Hill. So the more we change, the more we stay the same We still have a Capitol Hill Well go look up and... Go to a dictionary or a lava... No! Go an encyclopedia And get an encyclopedia and read about the Roman Empire It will tell you that Caesar ruled Rome from Capitol Hill and that it was said in Latin, in Rome every morning Caesar quote would go up on the hill end quote. Well that's what we still say today well up on the hill today they said what are you talking about? Up on THE hill! That is a word taken from the Latin for the realm of Caesar on Capitol Hill. Capitoline Hill

1:04:55 So we are a Roman Vatican Jesuit operation. We call it the United States is a Vatican Jesuit Vatican Operation, but happily the Jews don't know that they think they are running with a happily The Muslims don't know that they think they run everything Happily, the white folks, the white Americans they think they run everything. No actually your masters who own you is the Vatican and the Jesuit and what we call the Knights Templars or the International Order of High Finance out of Europe and Asia

1:05:36 We're talking about secret societies that have been around for thousands of years and perfected itself under the Roman Empire, under Caesar. And eventually perfected itself after the fall of the Roman Empire and mutated into what we call the Vatican. called canon law, which is the basis for maritime approaching law. Which is the basis for insurance companies and the federal reserve? You need to wake up and find out what's really going on here son. Yeah, man. I love this stuff and the material is so dense and so vast but we're getting pretty deep into the show. I wanted to ask you a little bit more about The Elite themselves There's a lot of speculation about what they're up to today We talked about how they might be dealing with extraterrestrials They might be dealing with otherworldly entities that they worship

1:06:29 But we've also hear that they have a lot of secret technologies, that they might be years beyond us and they're doing all kinds of strange things. Maybe teleportation and colonizing Mars? Are you privy to any of that information or have you had people come... Yes I am. Yes, I have been in the company of astronauts scientists physicists. I belong to organization. I belong to some very prestigious organizations because they like me and I like them, and they allow me to be a member. To listen to them and hear what their doing...I'm not privy so you don't have to worry about assassinating or killing. I am not privy of any real dark stuff neither is anybody else but i am privy though A lot of very powerful people in government science

1:07:17 and astronauts as I said, and I sat and talked with them. And I've heard them for years. I used to sit for hours listening to scientists talk about things that nobody's ever heard. So yeah, I understand what basically what was going on but also understand and got it down that you talk about some of this stuff and they will whack you. Right! You could get... First of all they'll throw you in jail if that doesn't work they'll just kill you And I understand why But anyway the answer to your question yes The technology Understand this

1:07:59 The best technology that we have today the best of the best that we have today is a technology to the government had many years ago and doesn't use it anymore but it cost the government money. They had to pay the scientists and provide them with the equipment, laboratories and all that. And that cost an enormous amount of money To finance the scientific community around the world to develop high technology So therefore the governments especially the international banks have financed the government they are putting up the money for science to do its job their building observatories

1:08:43 laboratories and financing the all this stuff for the scientists of the world. They want their money back, it would be nice if they could make their money back so they do! They do when the information that is developed by these scientists from around the world and all this high technology That's what the government wanted that's what they're paying us with the bankers want But now that they've got that information, newer technology is coming out. Better technology! We had Mickey Mouse IBM stuff back in World War II but today's computers don't even can hold a cabinet for what they used to have and so today

1:09:26 the top technology we are giving today and stores today is technology that the government doesn't need anymore job. Will you give it to us if we think wow cutting edge or on the cutting edge, what's your master don't need this crap i got no idea where old The wrong end of the cutting edge. That's right, so the head...the president of Skunk Works when he retired this is out there on the web and it has been you know a lot of people know this They had a blocky skunk work when he retired I think his last name was Kelly trying to remember exactly but he said in his retirement speech we have already taken ET home

1:10:22 Period yeah, I've heard that and then yeah So what does that mean well he came from out there? He wanted to go home. Well we've already gone there We just didn't tell you and so how did you do it in CD rocket none of those some You use rockets we put those big boosters out there for you to see so that impresses children They all get their American flags and run out there, all these alcoholics and beer drinkers. And they all go out there and watch the big rocket take off and blow out millions of tons of highly toxic fumes that's killing the planet but it looks very impressive to all the beer drinkers and all the party boys, all the goofballs and ill-informed unread Americans.

1:11:13 They think it's very impressive, so they watch the rocket go up. No no we've got technology set that you don't even begin to understand. The elite are not of anything but stupid aint one of them and so thats why you have places like Area 51 and S4 all these top secret bases I've been out there i know its out there Ive seen it And so I know whats going on in this world and believe me its frightening Because you have no idea in the world how technically advanced some people on this planet really are. And I'm just saying people, I don't know who they are because they've got technology that made them to be like gods. They can do stuff that you cannot even believe

1:12:01 Are there any examples of that technology you can safely give? Yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact Gordon Cooper the astronaut the national hero Gordon Cooper You know what I'm talking about absolutely yeah, I've got a private conversation he was involved in and He was being interviewed for television show and But on the TV show, he was only on for about 3 or 4 or 5 minutes at the most of an hour show. And it was all UFO's and all that kind of thing so I got a copy from the producer of the whole show That is long time ago but in it he was talking off camera He was talking about some really high tech stuff that nobody knows

1:12:57 And nobody has ever heard of this before, but he said Is there i was in virginia you talking to the person interviewing him off camera. Yeah i was in virginia couple of months ago and i dropped by to see a scientist friend of mine that i don't know for many years good friend, what do you work for the government at this particular secret laboratory of virginia is inside my this thing up this is gordon cooper the astronaut right And he says, my friend said I got something and he said well He had this metal table looked like an exercise table and some all kinds of high class equipment. And then he said I asked him what's the table for? Looks like you know where your create Frankenstein. And he said no i'll show you what it is. So went over to a cage and got a dog

1:13:55 and put the dog on the table, I locked the dog on the table with a little chain lock him on. And he said, so go sit over here and watch. He turns this machine in Gordon Cooper said, ''I saw this dog with my own eyes disappear in front of me.'' Then he took me down to hallway, he took me down the hallway to another room look very similar Another table and he's a set over there, and he turns on the machine without doing little while It's up to par And he says that I have slowly but surely began to perceive an image on the table until finally the dog was fully there. I Personally saw adult disappear and reappear at another room

1:14:44 So I know, so he said that we have the technology to decompose molecular structure of a living creature and recompose it in another place. That I know for sure, I saw it! Wow... So I'm saying to myself if this is Gordon Cooper the astronaut and he's telling this off record Then this is telling me that we have technology today. That was a long time ago, I know that was said but today there is technology that would blow your mind You have no idea We know that the Japanese are working on computers that don't even exist It's in the air and you can type stuff into the air and you can see the computer in the air it's not even there

1:15:40 And you know, and it's all kinds of interesting stuff. They have... I mean, I can tell you some of the most extraordinary stuff going on. I don't even know where to start with this because I'm not in the world of small-scale technology on any of this! How about anything in the realm of tapping into another dimension or opening some kind of gateway? I've heard rumors and stuff like that. Anything you could tell us about that? Oh, course! They did that with the Philadelphia experiment. Yeah...I was close friends with...he's still alive if I can give his name

1:16:21 He's still alive, he has a major name in the science community and I do mean major. And I was close friends with him, I used to go to dinner with him and many other scientists like him. One night in Pasadena we were at dinner talking about...I'm not talking, I don't know nothing but I am in the presence of a bunch of profoundly important people and I'm listening to them and happy to be in their company that they are talking about. So when the conversation quieted down, I spoke up not only opened my mouth but changed feet so I said to him well what can you tell me? I addressed this to a friend who is physicist

1:17:13 who was a world-class physicist. I said, what can you tell me about the Philadelphia experiment? And he said Jordan, I'm not at liberty to talk about that. Well being stupid and younger, I didn't realize so I opened my mouth again and I said well...I don't want any national secrets of course but is there anything you can tell me? He said in front of everyone, Jordan listen to what I am saying. I'm not at liberty to talk about that subject, so please drop it. And I was of course obviously and correctly ashamed. It made me look like a fool in front of everybody else but in point of fact he answered my question for few years later when I was little older I began to look back on that and thought you know he answered my question

1:18:10 And the way he did it was very simple. I asked him, what can you tell me? And he said, I can't tell ya nothing so shut up! Well that tells me... That tells me what I needed to know So SHUT UP! It must be serious if this man's not talking and why because there were a lot of people around the table He was a good friend of mine and probably possibly would have told me in private. But because there were a lot of people around the table, he was very right in assuming that might be a plant here maybe somebody is here that's monitoring what I say so I'm gonna let everybody know I ain't talking about that period

1:18:59 So, but one of the most important scientists that was connected to the Philadelphia experiment and of course I know Al Belick for years. He and I have done seminars together. I've done many seminars with Al Belick We did seminars together with Preston Nichols, Al Belick and myself back in Philly we did a couple long weekends together But I've known all of these people for many years, so I know basically what's going on here and what is actually happening is frightening because I realized that my fellow man, my fellow countrymen have no idea in the world what's going on and what the technology is. It's a shame to have to say this about Americans and about mankind in general but it's true

1:19:57 that people have no power to do anything. America is powerless, the American people have zero, no power to do anything you just shut up and go to work and pay your bills and drink beer and go out in a ball game and enjoy life and keep your mouth shut okay? And if we want anything out of you will knock it out And so, it's unfortunate that American people especially my own people the Americans of which I love by the country. I love America what it did for me and my family. I loved my country but the people of America have no power because knowledge is power and they have no knowledge. Well said

1:20:55 But if you understand, if you had knowledge about how this world really in point of fact works. If the people of America ever woke up and found out how this stuff really works and then you would be frightened Then you would see why I am so depressed and frightened because I know things that you don't know So, it's quite a story. Incidentally that is why you have to get license when you get married same reason why you have the license with your attorney or lawyer or do anything because of licenses and permits to do something which without that permit would be unlawful so is unlawful for you pick up one and live with her

1:21:54 It's not lawful. So therefore you have to have a license, why? Because what you don't know is your body... Go back for that for a moment Your body is a corporation That's why when you die You are a corpse because your corporation Your body is a company and that's why I said your girlfriend's body I say she's bad And you say, mind your own business. Oh you're doing business with her? Yeah she's gonna be my partner. Mm-hmm. Oh really! What kind of business are you doing with our monkey business what kind of business are you doing well if you're doing business you might produce a product get it yeah full circle they have full circle and now therefore if your body is a corporation and she has a corporation

1:22:59 Then that means two businesses, of which it ain't none of my business. But two businesses are getting together to do business Well remember like the mafia says there's nothing personal is just business So if your business with her don't seem to work out you're not going to God You're going to court and bring money in your house in your car and everything else you own because it's just business Nothing personal She was a corporation, and you are a corporation. And for two corporations like General Motors and Ford Motor Company getting together to create a new product that's fine you can do that but you better talk to the lawyers first You better get your legal team at General Motors to look what you're going to do with Ford and Ford better look at their legal team

1:23:53 and look at the laws, the federal laws international monetary laws to see what you're gonna do is going to be legal with the powers that be. Get it? That's why you have a license because you get ready to do some business. Wow! Man, you make it seem so simple but yeah its obviously been hidden but you make it seems so clear Well, it is clear once you study it for 50 years. Yeah! Um well hey man this has been great and we're getting kind of close to the end of this interview obviously I had a ton of stuff I wanted to ask you about the elite and about the world but let's take some time to talk about your personal life in what's going on with you because you have so many fans and there's a lot of confusion about what's happening with you and your court cases and I told you we'd take some time to clear the air Is there anything you would like to tell people about whats going on with you?

1:24:47 You know, it's just amazing to me. People are able to do things to be because I'm an old man 74 years old what can't see very well anymore don't hear very well either but being an old man people younger people could do things to me because of all the men and they get away with it while if I try and tell someone was happening to me I sound like an old man crying in his beer And so I hesitate to tell the world what's actually happening to me because I know. I get emails from people saying, why don't you just dry up? You're always talking about and telling us about your private life. We don't care about your private life! Just go on and talk with us and tell all this information that you are giving to us for free

1:25:42 So it doesn't cost a thing to say, we'll sit and listen to Jordan for hours and learn all kinds of wisdom and knowledge. Well, we don't want to hear about your private life We don't care if you're dying or if your mother died You don't care one way or the other If somebody ripped you off and stole everything from you Who cares? Just talk with us about your work And so I've had so many emails and you go on blogs All the different blogs that's why I pulled up the Comments on my on my Jordan Maxwell show. I pulled out the the blogs and the

1:26:20 The comments because most of the comments were saying things like that. We don't care about your private life, we don't care what's going on with you Just talk to us about your work. We want to be entertained That's super sad but I think that that's obviously gots gotta be them a minority of people I think a lot of people really do respect You and do really love your work and really want and they do care about your well-being man? I think that the majority of people They do care about you, I believe. Well, and I know you're right. And I know that but it hurts my feelings It hurts my heart to see people writing me on my own website saying things like they did the one that finally took the straw

1:27:08 and That's just people projecting their own frustrations because we just talked about for an hour and a half how stuck people are, and I think that they're just projecting that onto you. And I know it can sting man! I know it can. I get messages like that too You get 1,000 good ones and one bad one...you remember the bad one? The good men dies with them The Bad lives on forever It's not right

1:27:52 But what's happened to me is that I've been torturously interfered with. I had a webmaster, young man 28 years old, ponytail considering himself to be brilliant oratory, brilliant intellectual just a kid, 48 year old and he got delusions of grandeur But he came to meet me one day and said, oh my God I just love what you're doing Jordan. I think you are the best etc., etc.. And I was sleeping on a floor in an airbag in one dirty room in Tarzana California owning nothing, own nothing have nothing. I had no credit cards No property, no home, no family got zero nothing at that particular time I was sleeping On the floor with nothin

1:28:49 And he came and thought he was going to come see a big movie star, some big shot movie star. He found out no I paid a dear price for who i am. So he said oh my god let me help you or I want to help you. I said well that would be nice if somebody would help me All I want to help you is let me know, what can I do? And so well I'd like to have a get my website back and get back to work. Oh I'll be your webmaster let me do that and let me do this and I'll do that. That's why I need somebody to fulfill the orders. Let me do that all of it. So okay I give 50% on everything

1:29:31 If you just handle my website for me and fulfill the order, whatever we make. You keep half of it." I was trying to be generous. Half 50%. Then after I give him all the information about my website he goes in behind my back and because he's got his own password He's got his own username, IDO I don't know what his username is. I don't know what his password is, so I give him my website he goes in and now controls my website because he's a webmaster but when I don't though that he changed the passwords so it no longer my password He changed the username so its not longer by username Now I'm locked out The next thing you did was go there at the back

1:30:21 of the website and put his name as the owner, his name as a contactee. His name is the guy who owns it all and controls it all And I didn't know that he changed at all to his ownership then what he did Is he took my email which had about 24 thousand names Of people have been dealing with He took my email and rerouted I didn't know rerouted my email to himself and so people would write me personal things, you know, to my email. It was going to him not to me

1:31:02 And then i found out he took my money and then I found out from a friend of mine who did the checking for me that all of my products, my videos, my books and everything I've done. Everything I worked to produce He sent affidavits to Washington DC and copyrighted everything I own so now he owns everything I did, everything I've ever done, he owns it. Oh My God! Then, then he went behind my back. All of this is readily available on the web. Go to the copyright office and type in my name you'll see all of my work is copyrighted by someone else

1:31:43 Then he went to the trademark department in Washington, D.C., filled out an affidavit under penalty of perjury on a federal document saying that he was the one who came up with the name Jordan Maxwell and it's his creation so he wants to trademark that name So he was going to trademark my name so that he owns by name not only my money but website, email everything else in my products but now you know who's me what was the best part on that one, because he will not have a date with other country or federal document because it's such a fresh criminal couldn't care less than twenty eight year old ponytail arrogant.

1:32:35 So they caught him on that one and the trademark department called us said did you give Joseph Donazel permission to copy or to trademark your name? I said, I did not. They said well we didn't think so because we turned this over to our legal department This boy has filed an affidavit under penalty of perjury We've turned this over throughout our legal departments So then he, now he backs off of that one. The feds finally caught him on that one. At this point in my life I don't own a website and I don't have any private emails it all goes to him He's been promoting my videos while he is libeling my name in public

1:33:23 And so people know this is JordanMaxwell.com, right? All the things that are for sale are Jordan Maxwell dot com all the donations that are being solicited on Jordan Maxwell dot com That does not go to you correct no at all for 40 years I've never seen a nickel. I don't own it. I have nothing to do with it and he sends out email asking for donations saying hi this is Jordan Maxwell I really appreciate everything you do and i really would need some financial support so then now that I have my own e-mail for the first time, I'm getting a lot of emails from across the country saying Jordan we've been sending money well for last four years

1:34:08 donations here and donations there, thinking it was you. Now we find out that says Joseph Dolazow has been taking the money and we've been buying products off of your website thinking it's from you now we find out that you haven't owned nothing for four years this guy so thats mail fraud you can go to prison for that yeah that's jail time So you are getting this worked out correct? This is gonna have a good ending for you I hope. Well, I hope so too but four years i've been hoping that nothing's happening yet But the only thing that IS happening Is that I have an attorney which I was introduced to Who is a entertainment copyright attorney That's what he does And he's a very good one in Los Angeles

1:35:04 And because i have a mutual friend who introduced me to him and he took a look at what was going on in my life of what's happening to me, any wish you said this guy is a criminal he's not only taking money he sees lying mail fraud. uh... torturous interference well you know filling out federal documents of the penalty of perjury this guy is in it's a top-line criminal then we found out the attorney found that he got two other federal convictions already and so yeah, he has already gotten two felonies. So then

1:35:47 My lawyer said, look it. Let me take this case I don't care if you can pay me or not somebody's got to stop this guy Somebody has gotta put him in jail Give it to me let me have it And I said I don't have any money He stole my money too You know he owns everything He says I'll take anything give it to me I'm gonna put this guy in jail Give it to me So I did. So now, I've got a great top-of-the line lawyer It's on my website his name and so all I'm able to do because I had a Kickstarter Yes What you came on the show to do is I thought we were going to help you promote that Kickstarter And then I learned about all this other stuff but yeah the kickstarters been taken down correct?

1:36:35 Yeah, the Kickstarter was taken down. Why? Because the Kickstarter had two Facebook pages and it had over 17 thousand fans on one Facebook page alone! Well this guy Joseph Dolezal contacted Facebook and said I own Jordan Maxwell period so take it down now so my two Facebook pages were taken down then that I had three versions of a YouTube promo video for the Kickstarter. He contacted YouTube and take them down I had one promo video on the Kickstarter from Vimeo, V-I-M-E-O, Vimeo promo. They took that down. I had a Twitter account for the Kickstarter and he contacted Twitter and they took that down. Now I'm told that he's in the process of getting to Kickstarter taken down immediately because he wants to destroy my work and he wants to own it all period

1:37:37 And so my attorney said, well then look it. Just drop the Kickstarter because he's going to take it down and is going to come down but the one thing you cannot touch and he's trying over and over again that don't work as the only presence I have on the web is called Jordan Maxwell Show It's a podcast But the reason we can't touch that is because I don't own him I, when we first did the first podcast i knew this thug criminal is going to come out of this radio show and take it down so i signed him over and gave the rights to someone else. So that other person owns my radio show

1:38:27 Therefore, he cannot say that it's mine and he can take it down. It belongs to someone else and he is really going to have a fight in court for doing that so he can't take it down So what I'm doing because I took the Kickstarter down because its gonna come down anyway And just put a donate button on my website and say if you want to help Jordan Maxwell, then just donate because the Kickstarter is not going to work. Okay and just so people know it do not go to jordanmaxwell.com No You goto what's the pro- It's jordanmaxwellshow.com That's it exactly JordanMaxwell.com does not belong to me for four years

1:39:09 All the products that have been sold, all the donations going in. All private emails going to JordanMaxwell.com goes to a ponytail criminal who's going to jail. A fellow was... it was an incredible disaster but I didn't know! An old man, some young guy comes in and says he wants to help you And I needed help so I accepted him as a friend and turned around and found out no he came in as a criminal. That's why it is not shocking that he would do the things he was doing because he was already a criminal, I didn't know that!

1:39:47 Right, it's very suspicious too. It's very suspicious why someone like that would find someone who specifically deals with this type of research at such a high level...it's very suspicious that this kind of character would find his way to you That's what I'm thinking. I think the same thing and that's what my attorney said He said this looks awful dark This very well might be something more than what you think it is but I'm gonna get rid of him I'm going to get rid of him. Give me this case, we've got him on fraud, we've got him on misrepresentation wire fraud, we've got him on six different cases of wire fraud accepting donations in your name, misrepresentations of material facts We've got him with torturous interference, we've got him on this, got him on that This guy is going to jail and he said so give it to me i'll do it

1:40:44 So, but I have to pay the attorney. He's already put a lot of money out of his own pocket and I appreciate it but I do want to pay my attorney and if I can make enough to pay him, I would also like to continue the radio show but that costs money And seeing people who've been working on my JordanMaxwellShow.com They're free podcasts Well, the people who are doing that have been doing it for free. The station has been giving me the time and they have facilities and everything and other people working on the website for it I've been doing it for free but the station has come to a point where they said no longer we can't do it for free And I'm ashamed to ask you if there's people who continue to work on the website for free So I had to pay them some make some sort of a standard making some sort of payment

1:41:37 to the station and to the people so i can continue doing a podcast but all of that cost money, but first thing first I need to get rid of this criminal out my life. And he's not the only one it says brother and his father all three of them are criminals because they own company called momentum development and they have taken everything from me taken at all So I've got a good attorney now, I've got a good lawyer. Top of line guy and he's going after him but i gotta pay him and don't have anything. One day to the next with a friend of mine I have nothing so that why they put that button on Jordan Maxwell Show. But stay away from jordanmaxwell.com and buy nothing from there because none of it for four years has gone to me. None

1:42:28 What a sad and shocking story. It's so frustrating, especially for someone like me but after all the work that you have done A whole lifetime of work...a lifetime you cannot get back Some fucking kid is just screwing with you man And it's such a disservice that You've helped so many people, given knowledge to so many individuals That one guy, it only takes one asshole to really screw that up and to affect you in a really personal way. And it's damn shame and I'm embarrassed to be a human being with someone like that man It's such a shame because I am such a fan of your work Well I know, I feel the same way about his brother

1:43:15 His brother is Jacob, J-A-K-U-B. Because they're from the Czech Republic and so his brother's name is Jacob. His name was Joseph, J-O-S-E-F. Joseph Dolezal and that's on the web you can just go to like I said to the trademark department or the copyright department and go on the web. It has my lawsuits out there Court of records. It's all out there Okay, so I don't need a sense or anything you've said in the past 10-15 minutes Say it again. So I don't need to censor anything You've said in the past 15 minutes or so do it's all out there Okay, cuz sometimes with court cases you never know Yeah, no, no, it's all about their own independent okay, but So anyway is brother Jacob calls me on the phone Couple years ago

1:44:15 And says, Jordan you need to come over here we need to talk with you. I said well we that means his father and brother and they want to talk with me So i go over the house he says look it We got a new deal for you old man The new deal is this I'm gonna be Jacob says I'm gonna be your manager and I'm gonna be your agent I'm gonna get you on radio shows and I'm going to get you speaking engagements at conferences And you're gonna get off your lazy ass and get out there start making this family some money So get off your lazy asshole, man. We own you that's what his word work to me It's 74 as 73 years old Wow 28 year old pop talking about 70-year-old man and my lawyer says also we have them all elder abuse financial elder abuse

1:45:10 That carries a penalty too. I'm 74 years old and being talked to like that by Jacob Dolezal, everything's been taken from me. So... Have faith that it's all gonna come out and when it does they're going to jail Yeah, what a what a wild story That's so sad man But I know I personally have been wondering you know for the for quite some time where you've been I haven't heard very many interviews from you come out. So I definitely had been wondering It's good to have the air clear Right but I'll tell you the reason why he ever heard of me because anything I do is

1:45:53 is going to draw attention to my website jordanmaxwell.com, which they will benefit from. No no I have a terabyte I've got 12 different external hard drives. Half of them are 4TB and the other half are 2 and 1 TB, and I have a terabyte which is 1000 gigs Waiting for the day when I get my website back and get someone to handle my website for me that I can trust because I've got hundreds of hundreds of new documents all kinds of dark stuff that nobody's ever heard of. I've been working behind the scenes hoping that one day, I'll get my life back by name My work, my website, my money, my products...I'll get it all back one day

1:46:57 Before I leave this world at 74 years old, I'd like to leave this world intact. I would like to have what belongs to me given back to me and this thug goes to jail. It's so important for the conspiracy community to hear that and to, you know We sit and we listen a lot. We do a lot of listening in this educational circle jerk That's what I've been calling it But there are times for action on a massive scale and on a small scale And this is one of them You know Jordan is not a young man and he's got mountains of information He'd love to give to you but you know He's being raked over the coals and this isn't time to try to help somebody out who has helped you out for

1:47:38 decades. So I would like to see the conspiracy community come together for just this purpose, to give back to somebody who's given a lot to us and hopefully...I don't know what exactly people can do to further things along but at least just support the man and support this situation and let's get it resolved and lets get that new information while Jordan is still around to give it to us. Yeah there's a lot of stuff out there about you know about me, all kinds of stories and lies and half-truths and innuendos about me. You know I've been maligned by so many people out there People who dream up stuff about me that have no idea who i am never met me but they say things about me

1:48:28 And then other people pick that up and say, oh really? Okay. And then they put it out there and before you know it somebody else's picks up on it. And before you know it all over the world is all kinds of lies distortions about me. I sit on the floor with nothing. So people who actually known come to visit me and see me. They know who I am. They know what happened But the world at large is only given so much to understand, and there's so much out there that is derogatory and lying and deception.

1:49:06 And I know why because he told me Joseph dollars else and I'm gonna ruin your name out there You think you're going to walk away from me? Are you gonna do this? You're gonna do that old man. You ain't doing nothing. I'm gonna disgrace your name I'll dream up anything. I want put it out there cuz I'm from the Czech Republic and I don't give a damn about Your American laws, I don't care about your loss the money. I'm gonna make me money. Oh so he put stuff out on me and puts it on my own website and puts out stuff like the Jordan Maxwell master defrauder and all kinds of in the world picks that up, and now they're going off talking about stuff that he put out. And uh...and So I just sit here watching my life at my name and my work and everything I've worked for being ripped destroyed liable

1:50:00 And so I just sit here in the last days of my life watching some young punk destroy everything I've ever worked for. So, you know, like I said, well whatever do the best I can Well you are a living legend and you definitely have my respect and I don't have a lot of resources but i told you off the air if there's ever anything I can do or in any way I can be helpful or if you ever want to come on the show and address anything that's going on and you don't really have a way to get out on the internet or whatever whatever I can do I'll always be willing to help you out man I appreciate it. Thank you. Well, just remember... yeah just remember

1:50:56 do not have anything whatsoever to do at all with JordanMaxwell.com because that website for four years has been in the hands of a criminal that has taken everything from me and so anything that goes through that website goes through him and his family And so if you want to contact me, if you want to follow anything I'm doing the only presence that I have on the web is Jordan Maxwell Show. Okay Unfortunately I have decided not to take any more comments because I know...I am very hurt by the ridicule and the things which are said to be

1:51:42 by those who don't mind hurting other people. So, like I said... say why don't you get a coffin and go lay down to die somewhere. That hurts me because I've tried to do all my life so i decided, You know what? I just don't want to hear any more comments period. I'm tired of hearing comments by people who couldn't care less they don't know me and I've got a lot of comments saying why don't you just talk to us about your work we don't give a damn about your private life We'll kill whoever you are So I've just pulled down the comments, but if you have a comment you want to say something of value. Just go on my website Jordan Maxwell Show and you can send in an email and i'll get it. Okay well that's good to know That's all I could say And of course I got a donation button there too If you want to donate that would be nice too because I have a lawyer coming

1:52:42 And I'm ready to show my guy a picture. Thank you for having me, bye-bye There we have it people, an honor and a privilege to spend some time with a guy like Jordan Maxwell. Although he's starting to sound a little like Michael Rupert so please send the man some love at least! And let him know todays talk had an impact on you A new money bomb has started and were off to the races If you know and love the website reddit I've been trying to make the THC subreddit an official forum

1:53:31 exposure and everyone is free to share interesting stuff and talk to each other, you can also leave me a voicemail at thehighersidechats.com on the sidebar and I can play any interesting ones on the air Share this show and help it grow we're getting bigger and stronger everyday and i'm really excited about future possibilities Some great shows coming down the pike may your worries be gone and your pip hands be strong Another THC in the bag and ill see ya soon people take care of yourselves It's rough out there To be the bad man, to be the sad man Behind blue eyes and no one knows what it's like. To be hated, to be faded, to telling only lies But my dreams they aren't SMT

1:54:38 As my conscience seems to be I have hours of lonely, lonely My love was vengeance Let's never free No one knows what it is like To feel these feelings Like i do

1:55:18 And I blame you. No one bites back as hard. Their anger, but not my pain. You can't show through But my dreams they aren't as empty As my conscience seems to be. Have hours of their own live

1:56:02 My love was vengeance, less never free No one knows what it's like to be mistreated To be defeated Behind blue eyes Knows how to say that they're sorry But don't worry

1:57:14 I'm not civilized But my dreams, they aren't as empty As my conscience seems to be I've had worse but they're only air And my love was vengeance So let's never fear No one knows what it's like to be a bad man, to be the sad man.