Texas Slim | The Beef Initiative, Food Intelligence, & Getting Ahead Of The Coming Crisis

00:00 These days, so many podcast hosts just riff through unprepared segments until they get to the next ad break for pills they know nothing about. Cheap razors and whatever else they can get a buck from but The Hiresite Chats does it differently We succeed or fail on the quality of the content and your desire to hear more of it. So you're about to hear another free first hour episode that's here to prove that two-hour shows are worth subscribing for! Five shows a month for just $8

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01:36 Serenity now hires side-chatters. From sunny San Diego, I'm Greg Carlwood And we gotta start asking with all that we know about places like Walmart that become the one stop shop for multinational subpar products or corporate chain restaurants serving preservative packed calorie loaded meals shipped by freezer truck from one side of the country to the other Why do we allow these places to hoover up all of our purchasing power when none of their products come from our local communities, and none of our neighbors unfortunate enough to be stuck working there are paid a living wage? It's the ultimate example of taking everything and giving nothing back.

02:14 We wonder why there are no local stores or why half the country lives in drive-thru dominated food deserts, but the answer is pretty clear. We do not allow our capital to circulate locally! We fail to provide a supportive customer base for anyone who takes the chance to start a small business, and we end up with 1,000 plastic things made in China owned by the same five companies. A food culture with no nutritional value that is slowly killing us and a capstone cabal of gates-and-schwab foot soldiers that are more than willing to exacerbate our problems Toxic dyes, pesticides, factory contrived meat pastes, glyphosate covered monocrops and products designed to fall apart faster than you can use them. Isn't enough enough? Well it is for today's guest Texas Slim who saw the writing on the wall when it comes to the quality and sustainability of our food and founded The Beef Initiative

03:08 Grass-fed and grassroots, he's been putting in thousands of miles to go directly to what's left of sustainable agriculture driven American ranchers. And helping them retool to transform their businesses to bypass the bullshit and go direct to consumer. He's had a huge impact in just a short amount of time planning conferences building out the network and introducing the world to those in line with the movement through the guests on his podcast Texas Slims Vision He's on a mission to remind the people that we need sound food, sound money and sound communication if we want a strong society. And I am psyched to throw my hat in the ring with him! The grass-fed beef boss source of the seed seeker and true warrior of the war on meat Texas Slim welcome to The Higher Side Shit that was pretty damn good well done

03:57 Thank you for the introduction. I'd have to say that's probably the best introduction i've ever heard. So, appreciate you having me on man this is...I've been looking forward to this one yes and I am psyched to have you here! I'm sure this audience is getting a little fatigued by all the food shows I've done lately as they were with the COVID shows but This is definitely the most important thing we have going on right now. And the work you're doing to bring ranchers together and provide the infrastructure for them to thrive and go direct-to consumer nationwide, it's just so important. I'm inspired by the passion and effectiveness of what you've done in a short time. You wrote about this in The Harvest Of Deception but tell people more about what The Beef Initiative is and why are uniquely positioned as the guy to lead this charge?

04:45 Yeah, I usually like to just start by you know who is this dude that calls himself Texas Slim and it comes by naturally. I grew up in small town Texas You know i'm a seventh generational Texan and my ancestors helped pioneer up into the Texas panhandle you know, in the late 1800s. But we'd been down through Galveston way and we came down to Mississippi through the Gulf and then kind of went out to East Texas. And as time went on, we went up to the Texas panhandle which was Comanche land and last part of Texas that got basically established. And by saying that, you know I know a lot about heritage and know a lot about where food come from now and where it used to come from. I know stuff like Texas was the first state ever feed a nation

05:34 you know, here in the United States. And so I come from a strong agricultural and ranching background either it be my family or it be where I was raised as dirt roads and Texas red dirt roads. Whenever I was about 19, I went off to escape the small town. One of the reasons I left was because the agricultural debacle that happened in the eighties killed by small town So here I am a teenager wanting to live life and basically stay on the farm, basically be the cowboy, be the rancher that you know always wanted it to be but i had to escape this small town and went to Austin.

06:13 Ended up in Austin with about you know $120 in my pocket by the time I got there and I was 19 years old And you know, I didn't have an education. It wasn't formally educated didn't have the money Our family was pretty much poor The land was gone in which my grandfather stewarded ever since you know The 1920's I would say and before that his parents it stewarded But what I did is, I fell into technology and throughout the years you know i became a research analyst. And so about three years ago saying that I was a cowboy well I got beat up pretty good as far as

06:51 I had an injury, not beat up by somebody but just work and stuff like that. I had an internal injury and I had to look at food again and I wanted to kind of rebuild myself so I dove down and started getting into food intelligence and used a lot of research skills. And I knew there was problems you know but a lot people don't know where the problem is And so I did a deep dive and created this hashtag about food intelligence. It was probably about a year and a half ago, but I've been on the road. I've been studying things as far as industry community food programs public school programs, and I've been dissected them in the last three years what I found was pretty scary in what I know now is that we're going through a global industrial food shift

07:40 and how they're going to orchestrate it, and how they've already orchestrated it. And basically the hundreds of millions of dollars in hundreds of billions of dollars really that have been spent to basically do this food shift. So I knew that I had to kind of tell what the problem was but also I had to create a solution. That solution comes back to kinda how I was raised with a decentralized food system, peer-to-peer transactional system and something that was based on community programs instead of a global industrial food complex. So, that's kind of like the quick and the short of it but we can go deeper into it from there." I love it! And going deeper is the name of the game. I've heard you reference your grandfather in previous interviews and reference the history of ranchers in America even saying they've been under attack since 1878 right on up to today

08:33 And you mentioned the economic debacle that happened in the 80s. Well, maybe you could elaborate a bit on some of the elements of this important history that people either might not know or might just not truly understand the effects of and at least for the economic front maybe even some possible solves that you guys are working on? You know, I talk a lot about Bitcoin and we leverage Bitcoin as the tool. And for people that understand Bitcoin to the level that they need to, you know, one of things that we refer to is whenever we went off the gold standard in 1971, we debased our dollar right? Well what happened with that if you debase your dollar

09:15 You debase everything around it. We debased our food supplier, our agricultural industry in the United States was dramatically debased at that same time." We evolved into a debt economy instead of something that was backed by some hard money, which was gold. And whenever we did that in the 1970's we changed how we basically farm and ranched in the United States. You had a guy named Eric Butts he was in the Nixon administration. He basically is quoted as saying hey you're going to go big or go home. We're going fence-to-fence with our crops now and that's when we started monocropping. And he used this slogan it's like we are gonna feed the world

09:54 And what he meant by that is that, Hey our dollar's debased and we got to make some new profits within our agricultural system. And so we're going to use all these new chemicals in these new types of seeds and these new types of farming and ranching tour where can make higher yields and we can actually feed more people across the world. But by saying that we squeezed out basically our agricultural industry that had been exploited You know, especially in the last hundred years it was exploited during the 1920s of course with wheat and then that led to the Dust Bowl. But in the 1970's we got exploited dramatically because we really started introducing chemicals herbicides pesticides genetically modified seeds into our agricultural system and by the time we got to the 80s we had farm aid

10:44 And that's when we really started, you know a lot of people were liquidating at that time because we were going through basically kind of a monetary reset because we were really adopting that debt economy. And so that hit the agricultural world really hard. You had, you know, Willie Nelson singing Farm Aid and you know, he had the savings and loan debacle of the eighties well that was a direct result of us going off the gold standard in the seventies and why we did that in when we did that We were changing basically the history of farming and ranching in the United States to where we started introducing what I call fake commodities into our consumption models

11:21 And stuff like, you know, you started getting the seed oils. You started getting rapeseed and we started playing around with soybeans more. We started doing all kinds of different manipulations and injecting them into processed foods. And we got very good at processing food. So you had this industrial food shift that happened back then and we're seeing it now but this one's on steroids That is a really great summary of multi decades long problem. And let's elaborate on the Bitcoin thing because that might have sounded a little out of left field for some people I know you are good friends with Adam Curry, I was lucky enough to have him on here not long ago talking about podcasting 2.0 and value for value

12:04 And I often hear you talking about sound food, sound money and sound communications as well as following the Bitcoin ethos. As much as you can what is that ethos? Then what can you say to help people see the connection between Bitcoin and what you're doing with beef? Sure. There's a lot of ways you look at it, right? The way I look at is from my perspective as far as being the founder of the Beef Initiative ranching agricultural food land cows everything one thing that always like to say I think in I was the same way and Bitcoin is like I looked at it the wrong way You know you compare it What do you compare it to though the stock market or you compare it to cryptocurrency shit coins you

12:48 You compare it to so many different things, what a lot of people don't understand that they should really look at it from the very beginning is the decentralized aspect of that. Whenever I was in big tech and doing research and analysis what I was first was a networker or computer networker. So I understand what decentralization means And whenever you have a currency that is basically mined as Bitcoin is, as far as how it is created. It's created in a decentralized way but its also validated every 10 minutes on the block. Tick tock next block they say so what it is? Its a type of currency that we've never seen for us man because it actually does store value and does have transactional capabilities

13:35 It does fight inflation. It is a tool, it is a protocol, it is open sourced, and it's free to build on. There are so many things that people really don't look at because they're looking at it and comparing it to something like Amazon or Apple And it's just not. And so I try to lay that groundwork of really understanding what a store value is in our life anymore, what is money? What is sound money and if everybody looks at the United States dollar right now and says it's a good form of money then they're not paying attention to how much they actually lost their time spent working the last let's say three years. So you look out we're going through hyperinflation at this time well

14:17 Well, you can look at Bitcoin as basically a store of value that will fight hyperinflation and it's happening right in front of us right now. And people say well it's too volatile now it's not volatile gone up 100% its lifespan for the last 11 years and then I use the comparison is saying well when we look at volatility You know, I was in big tech. I was in dot-com boom days. I was younger and I was in innovation at that time and you don't want to talk volatility how about Amazon crashing over 80 percent over nine times in its history? That's volatile! And then you look at a stock like Apple where you couldn't even trade for it... It was against the law in Massachusetts to buy Apple stock

14:59 You've looked at the stock market, you look at our financial systems and Bitcoin a lot of people don't understand it because it gets a bad rap because what they're doing is they're doing a prohibition. Of really understanding what bitcoin is because it is a decentralized currency that has a store value that we've never seen in a digital form And you know, you look at my grandfather. He understood what Bitcoin was he just didn't have it. He understood what a store of value was and he had that store value in his land the cattle itself. Well that land and the cattle itself is not a store of value anymore, and it's being leveraged in a way to where it's more of you know A tool that gets used against us with hyperinflation with taxation with asset reallocation And Bitcoins going to be a tool in the future that we can really leverage for our agricultural world as far as those farmers and ranchers Not having a store of value or having a decentralized tool

15:59 that they don't have to report. Bitcoin is property and that's what people don't understand. It's a ledger, that's all it is and so if you have property that you can leverage against hyperinflation and gets taxation as you know that basically is hyperinflation then you can have a tool that is open sourced. It's not something that you have to go out and buy form. You don't have to have a financial advisor. You don't have all these centralized apparatuses kind of telling you how you should run your farm in your ranch. You, the rancher get to do it just like your ancestors did. Community based open sourced crowdfunded crowdsourced and it's a trial and error you know we go through adoption an even within this year

16:43 You know, in the Beef Initiative we've got ranchers now that are earning Bitcoin. They're storing it they're using at a store of value and they're growing their ranches by doing that because they're fighting inflation. Their beef prices are actually going down as beef prices in the supermarkets are going up and they're using bitcoin to leverage that type of price manipulation toward where can have that store value then they can grow their herds instead of liquidate their herds And so it's a learning experience. There is education involved, but I mean we've evolved very fast. Right on! That's a great pitch and you have proof of work in the ranchers already doing it and I definitely want this to be way more about beef than Bitcoin It is and that's what I'd like to say too really off the bat not to interrupt you This is about beef this is about saving American Rancher

17:35 Bitcoin is nothing but a tool just like a screwdriver or hammer. And that's something to be very, clarify up front this is not about shilling bitcoin this is about really getting awareness what is going on with our American rancher? What's going on with our food supply, our nutrition and you know what we can do to save them Yes, yes and it is about giving people an option. I mean i'm not a bitcoin skeptic. I've been using it since like 2014 but there are people who say to me well this is a ploy to onboard us into a central bank digital currency into that? And then I say well then don't use that just use Bitcoin and then you won't get on boarded into some other thing yeah and

18:15 People worry about Bitcoin's reliance on the grid and there being no physical cash aspect to it. I kind of understand that, but hey if the grid goes down you think your bank account is safe? There are going to be a lot of problems if the grid goes down so... And that's also probably a temporary concern that is… I don't know how realistic it is honestly. I do think maybe when the World Economic Forum says they're concerned about a cyber pandemic that could be in the cards. But look, the Canadian trucker protests should be all we have to cite to explain the need for a permissionless anonymous payment system."

18:54 100% and you know, once again people compare in comparison is the thief of joy and happiness and basically progress. And so whenever he compared something like Bitcoin to the grid going down well the grids down You need to be worried about somebody else instead just that your something else being a major issue in life And, you know that's where perspective comes in and you got to lay that groundwork of perspective. And you can compare and look at things saying well what if? Well what about how this is actually truly happening? This is the fact of the matter right now and this is the tools that you have at your availability that should probably be paying attention instead of the deceptions and all the propaganda and fear porn out there

19:41 Mm-hmm. Well said and so let's talk about the need for the beef initiative we both use the term war on meat a little bit lately and Yet, I know so many people who think that's hyperbole or they just don't see any evidence of it And the problems that have been in our food supply chain for the past couple decades That's one thing but help people understand that this is seriously ramping up there is a level change going on here and what would you cite for evidence that it is happening and they need to open their eyes? Sure. When we say there's a war on meat, people think that they're gonna get rid of the cow they're not getting rid of the cow they're gonna eliminate your market access to that cow...to the common man

20:29 And how they're going to do that is basically interject and inject a new fake commodity into the food system like they've already done many, many times over. And so when you look at the war on meat it's a psychological war it's something that they've been planning for a long time. They've tried to do it before. They've been doing it for a long time in this country and people can look at it They have a sense of complacency, like you say. Because it's always there. It's readily available. Yeah meat prices go up and down but they don't understand the global beef industry and who controls that

21:06 And so whenever you say a war on meat, well they have basically labeled the cow as a carbon hazard now. You know? The WEF, the IMF, the United Nations... They're saying that it's bad for their climate one that's the biggest lie that they can perpetuate and they're gonna say it's causing climate change another psyop right there which is complete bullshit basically And so whenever you look at how they're leveraging against the cow as far as the understanding of livestock overall, you can tell that basically what they're doing is they're designing this new fake commodity that they're injecting into the food supply. And so you look it right now

21:48 Everything that's going on, I think I said on Adam show last October or November. You know they're going to basically have a global marketing plan around fake meat while that's here we're seeing it and then they're gonna do something else well what's that? Well now they're talking about bugs of course and everybody looks at it say well I'm not gonna eat those damn bugs! Well I'm not gonna eat that fake steak! Well that's the distraction and that's what people can't understand And what they're doing here is they're making you look at that saying, well you're going to buy steaks that are 3D printed or stem cell. Or are you going to buy burgers that are pea protein or soy protein and bugs? No, you're probably not going to do it but you know, you're still eating those chicken tendies and you're still eating those pizza pockets and you're still eating restaurant food and you're still eating all of that industrial food

22:39 Guess what? That's going to be cricket dust. That is the new fake commodity that they're injecting into the food supply, they don't even have to tell you that they're doing it and what's going to be absent in that food is gonna be pure animal protein and they're basically gonna take the pure animal protein out of our consumption models especially in the western countries And where's all that beef going to go? Well, the beef is going to be sold to the highest bidder on a global market. We're still going to produce tons and tons and hundreds of tons of beef. You're just not gonna have market access because they're gonna turn beef into caviar and they're gonna price it out at the common man's budget."

23:21 The common man's going to say, well I'll just have to consume something else. And that is the plan to have to do that? Well who's driving that? Well you've got the Packers and the processors we have four major global packer processors JBS National Tyson and Cargill. And basically let's look at somebody like JBS well they basically are one of the biggest investors in new processing centers that take the cow or the animal out of the processing center and basically process this new fake commodity. That's just kind of a good general over study of that, and how you need to look at how there actually is the war on meat but it basically has got world-class marketing behind it plus it has world class deception that we've already been seeing in the last 50 years when they are putting all this fake commodity into

24:14 into our food systems that we all consume because we don't understand the labeling laws, how they've changed and how they can sneak this stuff into our food supplies without us even knowing it. And they'll say hey this is saving the planet. This is healthy for you. This is what little Johnny needs and they'll say hey its got 14 grams of protein but it really doesn't and then you know it's loaded with garbage. That's why people need to start looking at this It's commoditized, it's subsidized and you are paying the price nutritionally and in the pocketbook. Yes yes! And I really love that you make that point about those folks who say well i'm not eating the bugs or the 3D printed steak but

24:57 You know, as you've said this is nothing new. Almost 90% of Americans are obese or overweight and many of us already eat so many factory products like chips and crackers and plastic packaged products full of hydrogenated soybean oil all kinds of meat binders and high fructose corn syrup. So when they put insect powder in it, is that really going to be your line in the sand? I mean come on if they make it taste good most people are just gonna go along with it. Of course they are they've proven that and as you point out how have they proven it well our consumption model has led us to where we're metabolically bankrupt and this a short period time that they've done this

25:41 You know, everybody's looked at the pictures of the beach in 1969 and 1970. And then you look at the beach now man, you can't compare a man. You can even look at it without saying there is an issue here? Well how did we get there well this exactly what we've just been talking about the last 20 minutes and it's happening and what sucks about it as it takes you to look at the accountability mirror It's not a judgment, man. This is just an observation that is based on some real freaking facts and that we need to change our consumer demand to something different that has been chemically engineered to taste good and to make our body treat it like it's a drug in that we have to have that next fix.

26:25 And in terms of the bug thing and just retooling all the processing plants, I think I heard Adam Curry mention this and it was really concerning. And I think he heard it from you but apparently the food processing plants in America are already retooling and restructuring for the frankenmeat and insect based products So it really is full steam ahead on this stuff because once the plants switch over their processes and change their systems, they're probably not going back. Are we really seeing that already? Yeah on the industrial level whenever I say a global industrial food shift right what does that mean people don't understand what that means well its an industrial shift all of equipment all technology all product everything involved from blueprint up

27:19 changes and you know, everybody I get all the conspiracies coming at me every day. You know 30 something how many processing plants have gone up in fire? Right, right. Well the way I look at it and this is my subjective observation is that, you know, this is a good excuse for them to say well during COVID we couldn't employ enough people these became unsafe and they always use the ploy of your, we're going to keep you safer. And you were gonna make your food safer And we're going to do something to your food where you can have more confidence. You know, and that's what they always do in the general mindset of the public So, what I see is that in global industrial food shift basically they're taking the animal and the soil out of the processing plants. And whenever you have somebody like JBS Cargill National Tyson are ones that are in charge of processing your meat proteins and they're some of the biggest investors in new processing centers that are coming They're basically riding on a wall saying we're not going to process as much meat

28:20 And especially whenever they're in the United States, that means you're local. You drive through Arkansas man and you want to see some processing centers going up that feed Walmart? Every one of them none have anything to do with animal protein And so you take the technology, you advance the technology. You build it out with a debt that basically has no value. They got unlimited amount of money to basically transition out of this food consumption model which is already damaged and destroyed And all they're going to do is basically stack it on a new layer of debt, of course. But actually have that fake commodity in so you can't argue the fact that is what exactly is taking place? I mean they have invested hundreds of millions of dollars billions of dollars really In the last 10 years this is just not something that was just thought up and there's been four major consolidations on a global scale of corporations food

29:20 The last one was 2017 and 18, and that's when they got their marching orders. And if you look at what's happened the last four years, they're ready to go. They're pulling the trigger. Whenever you look at freaking in the Netherlands in the farmers having a fight for that land... That land is already gone and people don't realize it. That's not taking anything away from what the farmers and ranchers are doing in the Netherlands. But they got plans for that land. This is asset reallocation that's based on a monetary reset here, and people need to wake up to it because their consumption model and their consumer demand is what is driving this."

29:57 Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that because that was going to be one of my questions. I wanted to make sure we hit was how much of this is a land grab? You know under the guise of safety and climate change We hear about Bill Gates buying a ton of farmland in America But once a rancher loses their land and has to sell or they go bankrupt They don't get it back So we're now limited. We're kind of at the mercy of these big food companies and that's another thing this is kind of a greed play for monopoly because once most of the freezer space in the grocery store is

30:33 Frankenmeat or Impossible Burgers. That's not something an average person can produce, so you got these highly technical processes that average people can't duplicate we are totally dependent on those big food companies because we won't be able to find the normal stuff anywhere. You can't get a pig, raise it and slaughter it because that's actually illegal in most neighborhoods or it's against the HOA and all that kind of stuff so if you're going to the grocery store for your food and only this highly technical Frank and meat is what's left. Well, that's a total monopoly capture on food but I'm getting sidetracked here the land grab aspect. What's motivating that? What do they want to do with this land and why is this such a big deal that kind of goes a little bit under the radar with this whole agenda

31:26 Well, it's broad. Why are they doing what they're doing? Well they're doing it so they can own the damn land! Right I guess that's okay and then therefore whenever they own the land they can do whatever they want with that land but whatever it is... It's basically you know reallocation and you see this asset reallocation a lot of people don't realize what that means Whenever they print all the money there You look at 2008 That was somewhat of an asset reallocation in the residential housing market Okay, what did they do? They bailed it out and everything. Well those guys that lost money got their money back you know people like Vanguard Blackrock What is Vanguard and BlackRock doing right now well they're buying up residential areas in the United States to where they're buying tons and tons of residential real estate

32:13 Okay, well what's going on with the actual farms and the ranches and the farmland and everything that we have? Well of course Bill Gates. Well he is one of the major investors in all the fake meat companies that have spawned a lot of people don't realize a lot of this technology came out of Israel And they do a lot of startups They have a lot of technology based around this So he has got a lot of shell companies That he hides under his cascade investments I believe it is So the land grab has a lot of intentions, a lot of intentionality behind it. But that's, once again you know Gates is somewhat of the distraction. While that was happening China went ahead and bought almost the same amount of land during COVID and well why would China do that? Well they have billions of people to feed one right but then they can use our land to produce on our soil and then they can commoditize and they can profiteer off of everything that is local to us and they can take it over to China

33:15 They can actually, you know that land that they have. They can leverage it for beef production hog production corn wheat whatever they need to do and they don't have to sell it to the local communities in America they already have an apparatus to where the distribution model is set up to sell globally anyway so they leverage just something that has already developed and has been engineered the last 50 years to where if they can get that production model and the distribution model, they have the exact market access that they can leverage. That makes us weaker makes them stronger. Yeah, they don't make more land so... No, they don't make more land. That's for sure. If you could just get all the good land here going to win the game

33:59 And you mentioned the Netherlands. We keep hearing about a fertilizer shortage, we also hear about wheat problems due to what's going on in the Ukraine. Can you help us understand the domino effect of these things and the timeline as to when these shortages are gonna be noticeable to most regular consumers? Sure let's look at how ammonia, uric there are certain things that are required to make fertilizer who makes fertilizer who makes ammonia Well, you know Eastern Europe Russia China You know They're the biggest suppliers of fertilizer really that there is and so that got cut off a long time ago Whenever I was on I embedded myself in a harvest company last summer. I was there this time last year because I was doing a deep dive into their grain industry and what I saw is like we're in trouble here because What we were producing And you know The yields We were gonna drought a little bit last year and it's even worse this year

34:58 But whenever you have to rely on fertilizer to do your monocropping and a lot of ranchers use it to grow grass, so they can regen it to farm and ranch or just graze their cattle because that's how cattle get started is on grass. So if you create a fertilizer shortage, well what's next? If you don't have fertilizer. What do you use for fertilizer or will use it for grass and use it for grains And then if you can't grow your grains in a way to either feed your animals or feed your people Then there's going to be a domino effect that starts happening and it's not instantaneous and with our short attention spans that we've now developed

35:34 You know, we don't understand a sequence of events that plays out on the global scale because it is a very large macro scale that we're looking at. You look at commodity prices you look at the cost to fertilizer now used to be about 200 for I think two ton delivery fertilizer well now that's 14 12 to $1400 Well that farmer ranchers gonna say I'm just not using them and I can do it and I'm just not growing this year And sometimes they'll get paid even not to plant their crops So, not having enough fertilizer. Not growing enough grain therefore you're not going to have the livestock. There's a sequence of events that plays out over basically from a six month to an 18th month window that what you do is you deplete your inventories of the products that you need to basically feed your societies

36:25 And it's coming and there is going to be a prohibition against the market access to food. It is going to be something that has been engineered, being engineered on purpose and it will shock the system. And whenever you have a shock to the system, that's whenever you basically introduce a new system. And it's part of the overall play to create this short-term food supply shortage or insecurity and it'll play out across the world, of course, and then they'll play out in their cities we don't know nobody knows exactly but when it happens pretty quick. You can clean out a city within two to three days

37:04 with food and you look at the supply chain line breakdowns during COVID, you look how they're being reassessed. You look at the food industrial shift that is going on that as part of it as well is you create a little chaos and then you come in and then all of a sudden you're this savior And whenever you take a food industry as we have it, and you make it to where it's so subsidized. It's so centralized in its own globalized then becomes something that's very cheap to produce and to transport. We're not out of food here and we probably won't even get there what we are out of though is having that market access to a good food supply system

37:48 That's what is going to be the hit, unless you understand who is producing your food and what your market access truly is or that you have options for it. Then you're either gonna be woken up very quickly or you are gonna be very prepared Yes, yes. It's very important to as you say go out and shake a rancher's hand and let them know you got their back so they can do what they need to do and You'll have the comfort of knowing that you also have good meat supply I'm hearing people say, i think i've had two previous guests who said they think this impact could come as soon as september or october of this year. Do you think that's reasonable to suggest that like we'll see noticeable issues? We can't say how bad they'll be but something clearly noticeable will hit us around q4 of this year

38:44 Yeah, that's always been my target window. Last year that's what I said back in October or November. I said it was going to be the fall of 2022 going into 2023 and you know yes we will see it happen. It's gonna happen in Europe for sure. You look at the Netherlands let's look at their food supply they're the number two exporter of produce in the world And well, they're taking that land away from them. They're not producing as much and so you'll see touch points across the world. You'll see famine this year in the next 12 months you will see famine in this world don't know where it will be because of that family and you'll see migration. So yeah I believe that basically the spark of what we're going to suffer through or that we're gonna have to engineer our own personal lives through will be starting this year

39:35 Nobody knows, you know and I'm not one of these persons that say it's definitive but everybody that i do work with and i work with some of the same people that Adam does. And have worked with some people that are actually out there right now and they say this shit is happening and that you don't mess with the people that tell us but like i said this isn't what i hear And as much as I know and what i've been doing the last three years if I had you know, that damn gun to my head. I'd have to say well buckle up buttercup because here it comes. Yeah It seems scary but people who've been following this show? I have interviewed a rancher here and there for several years now trying to say hey

40:20 Why don't you just get your meat from this person? I've interviewed a West Coast, an East Coast and a Midwestern rancher. All of which between the three of them cover the whole United States in their supply. And I know now that you're doing so much in that regard as well And I wanted to ask you to compare and contrast grass-fed regenerative beef from typical corn fed grocery store beef. They're not all created equal, what can you tell us about the antibiotics? The additives and the things people probably aren't even aware of when they see that USDA prime label? Well whenever you look at regenerative, what does that mean? Well that means basically from the soil up

41:02 You're not using any inputs that don't come from the soil. You go from the soil to the grass, to the cow, to the producer, to the processing center, to your fork. That's something that doesn't have chemicals associated with it correct? Okay if you get into a commodity cowboy I think we call them commodity cowboys what everybody does or factory farming some people will take it like that What you do is you're going to start that calf on grazing, it'll go from grass and then at a certain point it will be led into a process that has fed grains. A lot of those grains these days come from the major grain companies, Bayer, Monsanto stuff like that and so they will be fed a form of grain that has been genetically modified usually. It's basically produced with fertilizers pesticides as far as the grain

41:55 A lot of times within that factory farming, the cattle will be injected. It's across the board so different that you can't generalize and it'd be a horrible thing for the American rancher to try to generalize all this but a lot of that does happen to that cow at certain points in time has nothing to do with the American rancher is what their protocol that they have to follow or they're out of business Who it really is, is the global corporate grain companies and processing centers. The best thing that you can do is take that cow into a level they call fat cow. You get a fat cow, you take that fat cow to harvest and it needs to be as big as it can where you're going to pump it full of whatever you can to get it to that weight so they can make that money in that profit, that subsidized profit based on commodity consumption

42:48 And so that's where our meat has gotten as a nation is because that type of farming, as far as going the commodity route in the beginning wasn't a bad thing. It was a good thing you can go really deep into grain and chemical GMO grain, it's not even fit for human consumption but therefore we're feeding it to our cattle and then we're feeding the cattle to ourselves. So we are consuming that unedible grain in certain ways through that process when I look at regenerative farming and ranching I work with all kinds of different regenerative farming and ranching producers

43:30 And across the board, what they do is they have the mindset that they are chemical free. That's what it is. You will have to use some form of antibiotics on any cow especially if you have something like black hoof. It's very common in ranching a lot of cattle will get that when you get a regenerative farmer or rancher that basically he has to use some form of antibiotic or anytime that he does have to inject that cattle with some form of chemical as far as antibiotic or, you know it's never a steroid if it were regenerative. You know he'll usually take that cow out and put into the factory farming market, you know the commodity market and he'll never sell regenerative or non-regenerative meat product to his consumers. Okay this is where the big misunderstanding is The American producer is not the one that should be judged here

44:24 What should be judged here is the global processing centers in the grain companies that perpetuate this because they have control over the distribution and market access. And so I have ranchers like our number one, you know, one of our biggest ranchers is K&C Cattle out of Austin Texas, Cole Bolton. He basically came from his... In Texas a lot people especially where I came from grew up the commodity route But what he decided to do is like, he was going to do regenerative ranching but he was going to do grass fed and grass finished. He's also doing grass fed and non-GMO organic grain finished that way he protects himself from drought from price manipulations from input cost so you look at all the different ways we still grow the best beef in the world in United States especially Texas

45:22 But what's the difference is a lot of times whenever we're in the United States, we're eating beef that was raised in Brazil. That had to stop in Mexico or cattle that was raised in Africa had to stop somewhere else and then they get processed in the United States and then they get to put that stamp on it USDA What the big deception is there, is you don't even know what you're eating or where it came from and they hide it under that guise of USDA Prime. And that has happened over a period of time. It used to mean something But now what I'm doing with the beef initiative is saying, Hey glad you're the USDA. Well we're the beef initiative and we have a certain protocol that you can definitely rely on when you know exactly where your beef is coming from and we've all shaked their hands and you can too either virtually because of your coming through the Beef Initiative or you can go out there if you're local and you can go out there and meet your rancher again And that's what they have been stolen from

46:22 is the factory farming, the commodity cowboy. They've gotten squeezed out and they don't have a voice anymore. They don't have a digital voice and they don't have a market access voice. They don't have a way to where if they wanted to drop out and not get their meat processed by JBS Cargill, Tyson or National. They don't have access to a processing center and so what you're seeing is we're circumventing around that and we're building microprocessing centers again And that's the key right there The key big bottleneck toward nutrition into basically go to a more clean route of your food

47:02 is the microprocessing centers. It's not these big hundred million dollar processing centers that were trying to compete with JBS, no it's each little processing center that already used to exist in every county across the United States just like in Texas. And Texas is a great place for this kind of thing I've been considering moving to many different states Texas is on the list No Income Tax and even though property tax can be expensive, you got the homestead exemption and you have exemptions for livestock on your land. And then I've also found several mobile butchers so i'm not trying to get in over my head here and stuff I don't understand that's really complex

47:44 difficult to do. But, you know if I had some land and some pigs on there eating the grass living a pretty natural life i could call a mobile processor and kind of raise my own hog in a sense and that's something that's kind of unique to Texas And there are also policies and laws around processing that are protected that other states don't have right? Talked about Those things why the Texas culture and government and policies are different from a lot of other states where you really can't do this stuff. Yeah, what you have is you have the USDA certification in processing right?

48:29 What that allows you to do is you can sell beef nationally. And so that gives you the stamp of approval, right? So that's a certain certification if you're going to be a processor and we'll talk about the sizes of processors all the way from mobile all the way up into 500 cow a day So in Texas, you also have the Texas certification and there's a lot of other states that do this. But what it means is that you can sell in the state of Texas and you can sell basically to the surrounding states. And so you don't have to be USDA your Texas certification is your USDA within your region within your state being able to sell too

49:08 So by saying that, Texas acts like a shield against the USDA. Saying hey we approve this over here like my processor up in the Texas panhandle Justin Trammell of Panhandle Meats see he's a Texas certified processing center He's a micro-processing center I call him avatar He does about 30 a week That is his capacity By saying that, he's really only trying to feed around a 60-80 mile radius. That is his consumer demand that he takes care of it's localized, its community based, its food shed and he is thriving right now and you know what he did as he started up from the ground up and he built his own processing center and he went through and basically whenever he got inspected in he got passed

50:00 Well, now he has precedents. He has USDA precedent and he has Texas precedent and by doing that that's very hard to achieve in the United States right now because what they did is all he did was mirror what we used to do in the United States well What changes? We went into this big big Big processing center where were processing 3,000 to 5,000 cattle a day out of one processing Center Okay, that's the global market that I'm talking about. Well they don't know how to basically most states don't know how to go back and scale down That's a big problem Texas does And so what we've done within the beef initiative We've created the beef is about a two-year plan that we've been working on

50:47 And it had a roadmap from the very beginning, but it's the Beef Initiative Association Council. And what we're doing is we're opening the door for people in the state of Texas right now if you want to open up a microprocessing center, we have proof-of-work, we have USDA precedents and we have Texas precedents from the ground up till the last inspection. We will advise you so where you can understand what you are up against How to circumvent around the regulations and inspections that are coming your way. So we're bringing education into the law itself saying, we know how to do this better than you now and so you have to pay attention to us. And so Cole Bolton down in Central Texas well he's done the same thing. He is opening his processing center this next month

51:35 And he's going to process about 250 cattle a day. Well, he is the number one supplier for the Beef Initiative so our volume is about to explode tenfold to where we can actually start feeding a nation again but by saying that Cole doesn't want to feed a nation. We will in the beginning because that's the demand right now and we want to feed 48 states But what he wants to do, he wants to scale back towards we're just feeding Texas and the surrounding states. And we're going to bring in other States to where we can do California. We can do Florida. We can do Washington and we can do Wyoming. We can do Oklahoma. You know these other States Tennessee I have a headquarters in Tennessee and Nashville now I have a headquarters in Colorado

52:21 So, we're building out those nodes to where what we're looking at is what is our access to processing centers for the future? To where like in the state of Texas Justin and I and Cole were saying we want a processing center in every county in the state of Texas. We have 254 counties that's pretty big dream in here but actually that's exactly where we came from. Every county did have a processing center And so we're going to be basically creating a hornet's nest of processing centers this next decade. That's how we fight against this. I love it, it is so complicated there are many layers and steps and you are hitting all of them

53:05 cut through all the bullshit that would stop people from accessing their food or producing food if that's the side of the coin people want to be on and it's just like so, so impressive and I mean you're really leaving a mark. on America right now. And it's just mind boggling to me how many people are out there totally ignorant that this is even needed and then like you're going to be right there when they do need it, and it's because you've done this work for several years I'm curious our regenerative agriculture systems immune or at least less affected by the fertilizer problem?

53:47 Yeah, well let's look at today in Texas. You know we're going through a massive drought right now okay? Yeah and you know regenerative Farmer, rancher animal producers. You call them grass farmers. They all go by different titles so you don't want to disrespect any of them but you look at the drought that we're suffering through there's a lot of guys out there that do regenerative and sometimes you can call them a hobby farmer rancher and they rely on good weather. They rely on good rains. They let the cattle graze. They let the cattle have a really good life Well, maybe this year they're going to be a little bit suspect of the drought because that's going to basically squeeze them. And everybody has this thing that ranchers are rich when they're not rich man and they're just making every cycle that they can because I love doing what they are doing

54:37 Regenerative, yes. They are vulnerable in certain ways. They're vulnerable to the elements more so than anybody right? They're less vulnerable to the deceptions and to the global chemical companies and everything they don't have to rely on all those input costs So therefore they have more wiggle room but by saying that the proof of work has to be a little bit deeper that maybe you'd say a commodity cowboy can go and knows that he's got a year's worth of grain, and he's going to be able to use that grain to finish off his herd that year. So you know, you've gotta put it in perspective once again, and look at a regenerative farming rancher make sure they have like Cole Bolton has got his regenerative commodities lined up – he planned ahead, he's been doing this awhile

55:28 Then you got guys like, well I'm going to go ahead and take my cattle to the market this year. Drought year, I'm going to drop out. And then you see these videos it's like oh my God everybody is selling all of their cattle! Well let's put it in perspective that one video that was out there on the internet for a while that everybody has been parroting about Well, let's look at that city. Let us look at that town." Well they usually have two auctions a week well that week they had that big line of trucks and you can look all the trailers had 2 to 3 cattle on it wasn't massive cattles that were being sold off but there was only one auction that week we are in a drought lot of them probably saying hey I'm just not going to suffer through this drought anymore i don't want to buy any more or I don't have market access to hay

56:13 So, you have to really know the ranching industry to be able to speak to it or really to have an opinion saying hey this is exactly what's going on. I don't see that being a big problem right now there's gonna be some regenerative that suffers because if you ever regenerative cow that's not taken to wait but then you're gonna have people that are processing that cow and it's only a 600 weight cattle man that beef is not gonna be good that's not good for the regenerative market And so that works against regenerative farming and ranching because you don't have people that are doing it. Somebody like Justin Trammell, Colbolt and Jason Rick up in Colorado Scott Halk out in Colorado as well some of the top four of the guys I'm working with currently right now

56:57 So, it's such a universe within the universe of the beef industry. And that's one of the most valuable aspects of The Beef Initiative is that we look at everything. We look at the full spectrum. We're just not parroting the fear porn. What we're doing is like hey this is really what's going on. What's really going on is the American rancher has lost 40% of its ranching land and nobody's paying attention to it What's really going on during COVID, we lived in abundance and basically JBS price fixed and manipulated prices to the tune of $500 million worth of profit.

57:33 And they settled out of court for only $56 million in a fine. Well, how did that happen? Well our consumer demand happened and we're okay with it and we don't raise enough shit about it. The ranchers have been trying to tell us for awhile now, We've got a problem going on here and we need some help." And we need a voice again. We need you guys to listen." Well, how do you listen? Well, you go and shake my hand and let me sell you some beef. Let's quit relying on Costco or this online type of shopping boxes that you can buy now the beef doesn't even come from the United States. Right. So knowing where your beef comes from, knowing that you should create new consumer demand

58:14 You eliminate all the deceptions, the conspiracies and you go okay this is really what's going on in our food supply. I don't feel food insecure i feel very empowered right now because i know exactly the truth and how can move forward. Well said! In terms of what you guys are doing, one component is networking regenerative ranchers that are already kind of doing it that way and your becoming a central hub for them. And that's a beautiful thing are you also seems like you are but it just seems like it be more of a difficult task approaching. These monocrop farmers who are kinda stuck in the system and showing them a better way if they own their land i assume once they're out of contract they can do whatever they wanna do but are you having success in actually converting

59:10 to this new way for people who are kind of stuck in the old way or the industrial way I should say. Yeah. I mean, like I said this is a low time preference you know we didn't get here overnight but we can recover a lot quicker than people think and me being from Texas cowboy mindset and beef of course you know i've really started off with let's look at the cattle ranch or let's look at pure animal protein first and that's a great case study and it's a great way to showcase your proof-of-work right Because you do have a cow an individual cow that you can piece in that You can actually really really people can see that tangible aspect of that cow in the whole Lifecycle of it the harvesting and delivery of everything. And you look at mono cropping and everything There is a movement going on there's a lot of ways that people are looking at producing produce, you know

1:00:05 you know, from vegetables and everything. You look at California and how they do things out in California, how California really is the bread basket for produce in the United States right now always has been people just don't realize it of course everybody's looking at if they have the means a lot of them don't want to change because they have a good life there doing it and their doing it very responsible way up to the point where they can and that once again we cant generalize here The Beef Initiative is about pure animal protein beef, Texas beef in the beginning. Now it's a national thing and it's becoming a global thing but it really comes down to how do we do pure food again? And so yeah, we're expanding out the knowledge base and as far as the protocol itself, it is expanding out and I think that you know...I'm trying to get over to the Netherlands here as soon as possible. I don't know exactly when it will be and probably won't be this year.

1:01:03 But I'm going to Australia in January. And so we've got people in Australia that are wanting to be part of the Beef Initiative, and so we're gonna have a couple events over there." So this is something that... We started it Texas but it's gonna go global because this is a global issue And we have to understand that, we have to look at it. You know it's open sourced, its something that doesn't have any boundaries, it doesn't have any borders but what is does has a mindset to get back where were once upon a time that actually did give us the strength to be able to give us the life you and I live right now. It didn't come from basically our grandparents consuming the type of food they did. They did with clean produce and clean pure animal protein.

1:01:49 Yeah, I just am so impressed with how effective you have been. It's like a lot of us especially people like me had been complaining about there being a problem here for awhile and just waiting for someone to come along and really light the fire like you have it's just so impressive and you've done events from Colorado to Tennessee obviously this is all contributing to the network building but Tell people a little bit about the events that you have had and the events you plan to have. Sure, man they're... And I didn't know anything about events or they're hard out there. Yeah. So I'm getting learned but anyway he's just say that our first one was in Kerrville it was down there in Central Texas and that was the first one and it was a great turnout and then we just had one in Colorado last month in July

1:02:47 And, you know, once again man everybody that came there was a three day event. Nobody wanted to leave is like man A new call to action right? A new awareness and we had ranchers, we had Bitcoiners, we had local community everybody's understanding that this is based on value for value This is like a new international lifestyle Adam and I have actually talked about that people just don't understand this is the new lifestyle that you're craving for And so what I'm trying to get people to understand is these conferences aren't these dry little stupid conferences where you got, you know, PowerPoints and screens. These are interactive. You're getting market access to some intelligence that you can't really find and you create relationships at these places

1:03:30 And so next month in Georgia at White Oak Pastures with Will Harris. I mean, he's one of the biggest greatest stories of turning around a farm and ranch to a regenerative model again. His family ranch is over 150 years old that was regenerative but then it went the commodity cowboy route but then he took it and got back to regenerative. He was the first person to sell grass-fed beef to Whole Foods before Obezos bought them out And so he has proof of work. He stewards his land and his animals on his own, he has that vertical integration. So we're bringing everybody out to Georgia and say come witness yourself how you can create at least your basically change your consumer demand

1:04:15 Have a new market access. Maybe you want to learn about the heritage woman and how she used to prepare for the family, the heritage family? How do they go about this? And we're bringing in medical. We're going to have people from the medical field talk about it. We're going to have a lot of different aspects at these events that I think people are yearning for, they just don't realize that they're out there. Because my events are pretty small it's 100 people or less so you know we're selling tickets right now to Georgia so i encourage everybody If I was you listening out there and you wanted to change your lifestyle in a way when it came around food, in a new form of food intelligence. And this is just not me selling this because I'm not being very honest and transparent. This is what you need to point your compass too because it's important and you can get rid of a lot of the anxieties that a lot of people are feeling and say hey, I'm going to empower my family again cause a lot of people don't feel empowered out there right now

1:05:13 And so I'm doing that event in Georgia in September. And then what I'm also doing, and I spoke of Justin Trammell at Panhandle Meats, what we're going to do is Canyon Texas where I grew up There's a Panhandle Plains Museum here. Well, he just opened up his processing center." Well also we're doing education within the Beef Initiative. We're going to have a heritage and food event in Canyon Texas. One thing we're going to do is like hey you want to learn about processing? Come to Canyon Texas and we'll put you on the list as far as who were gonna consult this next year. We're gonna talk about Food Sheds local community-based processing centers

1:05:53 How to build out your community food programs kind of like what the four sixes ranches did we're gonna bring these little micro summits and events everywhere across the world And that's what I'm going to start really kicking off in October, and then I've been invited to Nashville We might be talking to a association there. I'm not gonna announce it right now but then work force were gonna have two events in Australia and And then maybe I'll get to Amsterdam. And then, I know for a fact next year we're going to have one of our biggest kickoff year events is going to be in Nashville probably it'd be springtime of 2023. One thing that I am doing in central Texas in November is we're gonna have a big old cowboy freaking steak dinner and we're gonna have a big old cowboy party

1:06:44 You kind of close out the year and say we've done a lot of good work, and this is what we're going to do moving forward. So we're going to invite everybody to that too Right on. Just always so busy and I've been looking at that Alabama event because two of the hands, I'd like to shake most are you and Adam? And you'll both be there. Oh, you mean in Georgia it was Georgia. Yes. Oh, Georgia yes my mistake. My mistake. Uh, and I know it's coming up really soon. So if I was going to fly out there, I got to make a decision quite quickly but any plans to make it out to California and make it easy on me Yeah, I'm talking with some guys right now and we're putting together something in California. I've got a place to say just gotta get out there. We gotta look at the calendar and yeah, um, I've told everybody a little bit about who I am. You know, I have, I have a lifestyle now it's not because I'm rich. I'm not a rich man. I liquidated my life about three years ago to do this. I didn't start off with a lot of capital. What I started out was a lot of grit

1:07:43 and a lot of know-how, and a lot of intestinal fortitude. And I said well in this year for the next two years I'll go anywhere in the world and I will not stop until I've gone everywhere to build this out and it's starting to happen on that scale so you know I've got plans visiting Idaho in October as well they want me back in South Carolina I'd love to come out to California On the Beef Initiative website, I've paid for everything on my own. I'm self-funded don't have VC money never will that's not what this is about this is grass fed and grassroots and so I've got kind of a donation page I kind of do the value for value like time talent treasure like Adam does you know he's kinda really encouraged me to do that because it's kinda hard to ask right?

1:08:32 And I've never been one to do that, but we're building out basically a roadmap and you know we're asking people hey Do you believe in what we're doing? Do you find this valuable You know go to the beef initiative and donate, you know Donate for some gas whatever it is. You feel that is valuable And so I'll start moving forward with that The more that people kind of come on board and they want to help out maybe they can't go one two One of these events but they want to, you know, they want to help out. You know I'm changing my podcast up where it's going to be very insightful once a week it's going to be a long podcast. I'm gonna talk about people who are contributing and what we're doing and where we're going and it's gonna become very interactive We're doing an audio docu-series right now to tell the story of when I was on the road and were breaking it up towards kind like Orson Welles but its entertainment but also educational

1:09:22 So, we're doing a lot but we're doing this without any revenue and it's amazing how far we've gotten so far. But I'll be the first to...I'm driven by damn pickups to the ground and you know, I pretty much basically stay homeless because I'm on the road all of time but I want to come meet everybody. I want to shake the ranchers hand. I want to build out these protocols where these communities can start building locally so that we can broadcast globally." Yes, yes. Just so impressive man and I know that everybody's always probably like what about this? What about that but I got to ask do you have any plans in the beef initiative to expand to pork and chicken because some of these boxes you can get they're often multifaceted with these at least three various proteins

1:10:12 Yeah, and that goes to scale right? And you look at these other programs that have that. Well that's commodity-based crap unless you know... You're going through a regenerative platform or anything right once again it goes to scale right it goes to basically consumer demand basically creates that skill and that's what people need to understand of course we will bring lamb, yak, bison, pork, fowl It doesn't matter what it is. It's up to the consumer demand and how we can actually project that out, how to plan that out and how they leverage the producer in a way that is beneficial to the producer instead of a commodity-based leverage which are being exploited. So as we move forward this is once again about pure clean animal protein and pure clean produce

1:11:02 Whatever we can put into this model that we've created within the beef initiative, you damn right. We're going to do it because that's gonna basically compete with the people that are trying to nutritionally starve us. Yes. Good to hear good here and I know I got to let you go but I just want to make sure we touched on everything in terms of the roadmap or ways that people can help and of course the website is beef initiative dot com You also got social media links Give them everything you can that's important for them to hear before we call it in. You bet, I mean the first most important place to go is TheBeefInitiative.com

1:11:39 You can go there to buy your beef. You can go there to access the newsletter, you can go there to basically make a donation. We just now launched and I haven't told anybody so everybody in this show get here first we have a subscription now where you can get beef delivered once a month and so you can secure your beef supply. You can secure it for the next year two years three years whatever is Once you get that locked in, you're locked into a subscription service that's going to deliver beef to your door. The best beef in the world! So everything that you want to really kind of wrap your head around is BeefInitiative.com Twitter, of course I'm at ModernTMan and then our Beef Initiative Twitter handle is at BeefInitiative And then my sub stack which is from the beginning The Harvest Of Deception is TexasSlim.SubStack.Com

1:12:30 And then if you want to see the media side of things on Twitter, it's at TX slim media. And we're just kicking that off as well Right on. Well, you are an inspiration and American hero and a real man of genius to use the Bud Light commercial phrase but this has been a real pleasure I'm super fortunate that you were willing to come talk to me today i'm happy to lend uh the little platform I have to such important stuff so very cool and uh I hope it's catch in California man but keep doing what you do and take care

1:13:07 Hey, I appreciate you having me on. I thank everybody for listening. You know let's take some steps in the right direction and we don't have to ask permission anymore so you know that's the biggest message We have the power to do whatever the hell we want to and that's the most important thing these days Amen! I love it Have a good one Alright man take care Yeehaw Hireside Chatters Texas Slim letting us know the situation and doing the hard work to build the solution I really, really loved it though. I'm sure some people feel like i'm hitting them over the head with food themed episodes and I thought Dr LaRaw was really amazing with the history of food control and the agenda run through Food Science because he's a highly credentialed food scientist so he has his realm And Texas Slim is out there going above and beyond to provide Americans with the options they don't even know they need or that their losing

1:14:05 Yes, we have done interviews with ranchers and farmers that are kind of about the same thing. But now we're talking to a real go-getter who is helping to give these guys the tools and education they need to move to direct to consumer and expand the grass fed regenerative model. And when you check out BeefInitiative.com, you can know that they ship coast to coast so any American listener can take advantage I know some of our previous Rancher interviews were much more regional, so when people would get really motivated hearing the interview they couldn't go to that direct person. But this is different! Check out Slim's website and get a box of high quality meat. I've been through...a bunch of these subscription boxes to tell you the truth and i really like their options here They source from several Texas & Midwestern ranches

1:14:57 But then you also have a lot of choice when it comes to what you want and it's totally a good price. Here is just an example, two New York strips, two filet mignons, three-and-a-half pound roasts, two Denver steaks one tenderized 2 lb round steak four chuck eye steaks five 1lb packs ground beef and 5 pounds ribs All for $165. Like, to me that is a good deal! That is about 12 meals for my wife and I when you count the roast as two... 5 pounds of ribs as two... 5 pounds of ground beef might even be three You go to the farmer's market, get your vegetables and you're all set! You don't have to be some kind of Michelin star chef to grill some meat and roast some vegetables Extra points if you roast your own vegetables too

1:15:52 And maybe this is not the most epic stuff we've talked about, but to rebuild a strong foundation in this country first you have to be aware that it's needed. So that's already a minority of us right? The conspiracy folks let's call it 30% of people That's probably generous but 1 third Right there, we're already so far behind that we really need all of us in that minority to make sure that we're eating clean and eating local and supporting the infrastructure that allows for that. Enough with the big chain conglomerates! We know they are feeding us bullshit, we know they are taking our local dollar out of circulation, we know their paying people in our community a dog shit wage Well it's time we put our foot down

1:16:38 We gotta do more than just bitch online about the World Economic Forum. This is a really practical thing you can do, dedicate yourself to this one thing it does make a difference in your life and the strength of your food supply and your health And it takes a few more dollars out of the Food Tech Corporate Cabal They tell us what they want to do are we just gonna roll over and let them do it? But I did see this that was going to mention It's a little bit of good news I saw this headline from the Daily Mail, but it says fake meat fail beyond meat reels as sales slow and stock plummets. With an analyst saying that they are burning through cash and may go bankrupt as partnerships with McDonald's and Taco Bell don't pan out So good! If we go back to the interview with Dr. Lira

1:17:27 The CEO of Impossible Foods said they intend to send red meat producers into a quote, death spiral. So fuck you dude! But again this just means impossible meats weren't working for fast food customers well you shouldn't be there anyway the regular stuff they're selling isn't much closer to meat either ya know? but Dr. Frederic Lerat said several times this is their plan But that's not to say it will be successful. So stuff like this is encouraging to hear, interviews like todays really inspire me as well It is important to not have a defeatist mindset but recognize the problems and the challenges and then go after them If they can get things done using a problem reaction solution model so can we

1:18:19 So big thanks to Texas Slim for stepping up and to Adam Curry for bringing Slim up on no agenda as often as he has or I'd have no idea. And i did bring up moving again on this one, I already made the decision to knock that off it's getting a bit repetitive It'll happen when it happens but I already had this one recorded and I also do appreciate some of the culture in Texas regarding food and thought it was worth bringing up Here's another little story as an example My wife and I are friends with a couple who moved from here out to Texas recently, and when we were doing our big road trip we stopped in to hang with them for the weekend see their new house and everything. And we went to a place for breakfast that just happened to have a bunch of vendors set up as well... ...and we saw a meat cart! We started talking about their family farm totally regenerative grass fed & finished. And my buddy needed some eggs which they also sold at this cart

1:19:16 But they also had a sign that said if you buy a tri-tip then you get a free carton of eggs. So boom, let's just do that! Well she gave my man four free cartons of eggs and they don't even have to be refrigerated because they still have the bloom on them which is also just interesting If you ever wondered why some eggs need to be refrigerated and some don't They come out of the chicken with a film on them that protects them from that need for temperature control I had no idea But the whole thing was cool, so high quality food talking to the producer getting a bonus just for having a good conversation it was a memorable exchange and it was very Texas. I definitely walked away thinking...I want to be apart of this! If this is going on right down the street from where I bought a new house I would not be disappointed

1:20:06 Plus, Texas gives you tax breaks for animals on your property. Literally paying citizens to keep the food supply strong and decentralized That's great! I wish it wasn't so hot and so drought stricken And so archaic about marijuana But the food aspect of the culture in stories like the one i just told are a beautiful thing Also in the plus show, one of the things we talked about was the three-day bone broth fast inspired by Dr. Care and if you saw my social media at all this week You know that I actually started that three days ago So I had an early dinner on Monday And then Tuesday and Wednesday did not eat anything except for bone broth and drinking some water But today I did wake up not feeling so great allergy wise and so I kind of just said fuck it

1:20:57 The point was to feel amazing and I felt better on the second day of the fast than i did today. So, I woke up and I did have some eggs with the family but it's really to me about no sugar, no carbs, nothing artificial... And it probably does make for a good reset! I definitely had an easier time than I expected if you were considering such a thing. I was barely hungry. The harder part was just being bored without eating for two days But I think going without everything for that little while will make it much easier to appreciate small meals and exercise more portion control. But we'll see! So, I did about 60 hours is how far i made it a bit shy of the full 72 but...I tried. Discipline has never really been my strong suit and had I woke up today feeling energized and breathing all right I would have probably cruised right on through today as well

1:21:55 But something really, really triggered those allergies. Maybe I smoked some weed with pesticides on it yesterday Another thing that I gotta be better about But Dr. Kare has seen some amazing results converting families from the typical American diet to an all organic and grass fed one Really impressive And other things we talked about today in the Plus Show for Plus Members would be issues with analysis paralysis and the right ways to think about food, The Four Sixes Ranch school lunch success story, the political takeover of school lunches in the attack on kids, grooming and social engineering through Hollywood and quote the science.

1:22:38 the reasons why they're nutritionally starving us, the truth about food delivery apps, the way the conventional system enslaves the modern farmer. We also talked about problems with farm equipment manufacturing corporations and how to revitalize soil and keep it healthy. Become a Plus Member if you like the way I do a show and want to hear it in full! We also talked about the value for value model and this event that they're doing actually this weekend. So I'm clearly not going to be going there, but it is in Georgia Texas Slim and Adam Curry will be there at Wild Oak Pastures and it's all weekend and you can get your tickets at beefinitiative.com But I have great respect for the value for value model In contrast to the sponsorship advertising model that has taken over podcasting

1:23:29 But neither of those models. Advertising, it's pretty clear why it doesn't work around here but value for value really doesn't work for the way I have the show structured either because I did try at first and big donations came with guest recommendations attached and it started to feel dirty. I'm relying on a few high dollar contributors and when I don't interview the list of guests they give me then the donations go away and now I'm stuck It was feeling a bit dirty and it was feeling like I wasn't as independent as i sought out to be. Kind of felt like people were buying guest spots, and we don't want that! But a show like No Agenda doesn't have to worry about such a thing because of their format Either way, tip my hat...to what they do We have the 8 bucks a month subscription model and does me just fine My attitude is really anyway you figure out how to do it ad-and sponsorship free I think is a win

1:24:30 But of course in higher side news, we got that event with the Gramerica guys at Mount Shasta in February. Go to contactatthecabin.com for more details this event is called Magic on the Mountain but if you want to hang out with me for four days and do some hiking and smoking and all that this is the place to be plus we're gonna drink that sweet sweet shasta water And on the Meetups calendar we did see one more event go up, on top of the two I mentioned last time. So for the rest of September we have this weekend, September 17th The Flathead Lake meetup in Lakeside Montana There will be a Hireside sign written out on a poster under one of the pavilions and you can all hang out there and swim if it's hot or just enjoy the views

1:25:20 Then on September 24th, we have the Philadelphia Clark Park meetup in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Another poster will be present and there are a lot of good local food and bars right around there so you can meet up at the park itself and then decide if you want to carry it on over to some other place And then freshly minted We have the Salida Moonlight Pizza Meet Up and Salida Colorado at Moonlight Pizza & Brew Pub So if you're near any of those areas, hop on the calendar and RSVP. Let them know they won't be there alone and meet some new friends! And then if you're not in any of those areas just make an event of your own but I am happy with this one You know treat yourself to something from the Beef Initiative website Give your parents some good steaks or something How many of us have parents that don't really eat that well? They're still doing the Marie calendars They're doing the hamburger helper

1:26:16 They were sold a bag of goods through the 90s with all this food bullshit and we gotta set the record straight and send them some good quality stuff. I recently bought a T-shirt just to support the venture, not that i need any more T-shirts with all the higher side clothing stuff that I have but... ...I wanted to do something to represent and I get my meat already from Sunrise Ranch But it's all good. I wanted to make sure we highlighted an option that was completely nationwide and that we could get a boots on the ground report, to use no agenda phrase as to what's really happening in the food sector and how we're going to make it better so I hope you dug it but I'm getting out of here your move nutritional starvers factory food facilitators and insect protein injectors your fucking move

1:27:07 I eat a bunch of corporate junk, fuck that makes you fat. Industry don't makes it have to face it wrong Got an addiction to the digital technology and then I try to quit and leave it be but its too hard to say discipline is no knife, fuck discipline. Only half of the big conspiracy and every one

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