Wednesday, 14 February 2024

Shannon Rowan | Shots Fired, Medical System Sacrifices, & The Techno Dystopia

A deep investigation into the historical origins of medical tyranny reveals a global system of indoctrination, suppressed energy technologies, and the looming shadow of transhumanism.

By The Higherside Chats Free Show | 1h 24m listen | 19 chapters
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About this episode

Author Shannon Rowan returns to the program to detail her 700-page investigation, Shots Fired: Vaccine Weapons, Medical Tyranny, and the War Against Humanity. Rowan and the American Medical Association are at the center of a critique regarding the historical formation of a medical cartel that allegedly prioritizes profit over public safety. The narrative traces the origins of germ theory and the standardization of medical education as a form of professional hazing designed to enforce hierarchy.

The discussion explores specific claims regarding COVID-19 vaccine side effects, including myocarditis and the presence of graphene oxide, while examining the controversial phenomenon of vaccinated individuals emitting Bluetooth MAC addresses. Rowan cites the 2014 discovery of mass graves at a mother and baby home in Tuam, Ireland, and HIV trials overseen by Anthony Fauci's team on foster children in New York as evidence of systemic institutional abuse. Secondary topics include the suppression of Stanley Meyer’s water-powered engine, the risks of Ivermectin as a GABA transmitter disruptor, and the occult symbolism behind Elon Musk’s corporate branding.

Shannon Rowan shares her personal journey as a WiFi refugee and offers a critical look at the transhumanist Avatar project in Japan. The conversation takes a lighter turn with a critique of trendy IV drip bars and the revelation that most commercial citric acid is derived from lab-cultured mold. Rowan concludes with advice on building resiliency through nature and physical human connection.


CHAPTER 01 / 19 Discussion

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higherside chats· plus membership· patreon· rss feed· subscription model

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CHAPTER 02 / 19 Discussion

Shannon Rowan, Shots Fired and the Medical Machine

Author Shannon Rowan returns to the program to discuss her 700-page book, Shots Fired: Vaccine Weapons, Medical Tyranny, and the War Against Humanity. The work provides a chronological history of the medical establishment, tracing modern practices back to the origins of germ theory and the formation of the American Medical Association. Rowan argues that the current medical system functions as a "medical cartel" that prioritizes profit over public safety and suppresses alternative healing methods.

shannon rowan· shots fired· medical machine· vaccine weapons· medical tyranny

05:28 The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan. There's clearly maybe something there be- But until you've thoroughly tested every last close-tested view, the more you think you know the less you really do- Where would we be without THC? We know they're lying to us, just don't know to what degree. Yeah! Where would we be without DHC? The higher side chats show great Carl Woodward company

06:14 Shots fired, Hiresight Chatters. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and despite the modern way of doing things being propped up by oligarch funding educational indoctrination regulatory capture media propaganda and the white lab code mafia more and more people are starting to see the cracks in the system and realizing that highly technical does not mean better Monocrop agriculture vs. traditional permaculture, natural holistic approaches versus toxic chemical sprays Living electrolyzed H2O vs dead chemical-filled fluoridated water Dense EMF smog covered smart cities versus life in rural or wilderness areas closer to clean air and oxygen rich tree filled environments We're always being told that the industry experts have it handled all they need is our blind trust

07:05 But how many approved drugs have had to be removed after the damage was done? And how many modern medical advancements like bloodletting, electroshock therapy and even lobotomies are now thought of as backwards and barbaric. Are these really just elements of the past or are we going to look back from the future and feel the same way about practices in the present? Well if you read Shannon Rowan's 700 page takedown on The Medical Machine titled Shots Fired Vaccine Weapons Medical Tyranny In The War Against Humanity It's hard to see anything getting better without completely discarding the established order. You might remember Shannon being here once before with John Hamer talking about the work they've done together in Welcome to The Masquerade, Prelude To The Coming Reset but she is also author of Wi-Fi Refugee Plight Of The Modern Day Canary which she wrote after realizing how EMFs were negatively affecting her own health and the health of many others considered quote EMF sensitive

08:00 She certainly knows a lot about a lot, so let's learn something. The medical cartel critic, EMF exposer and teacher on all things toxic Shannon welcome back! Thank you, Greg. It's great to be back and thanks for that wonderful intro very flattering I liked it. I appreciate that okay congrats on another great book you cover so much in this one from the warped history of vaccines and germ theory to water fluoridation the COVID era and the insane transhumanist plans they have for the future It really does cover a lot, but I guess after writing Wi-Fi Refugee and Welcome to the Masquerade why did you choose this as the next book to write?

CHAPTER 03 / 19 Discussion

Medical School Indoctrination, Professional Hazing and Hierarchy

The discussion explores how medical education serves as a form of indoctrination through grueling schedules and sleep deprivation. This "hazing ritual" is described as a method to ensure students do not question authority or established protocols once they enter the professional hierarchy. The American Medical Association is identified as a key entity in standardizing this system to monopolize medicine and protect the interests of hospital boards and funders.

medical school· ama· indoctrination· residency· sleep deprivation

08:42 Yeah, I guess I just wanted to dive a little deeper but also to show a chronological order history of how we got here today because i think it's so important. You know when you read the history of all this you realize how familiar it sounds and how it keeps repeating and how this has also been building from one to the next thing. So it's like we had the foundation laid for us a couple hundred years ago with germ theory and with vaccinations, you know with Jenner with the first vaccines and with Louis Pasteur. And so they laid this foundation of indoctrination that has now allowed for the tyranny that's arisen since then also the AMA Latin American Medical Association, the formation of that and how they monopolized medicine in this country people don't realize that 1800 there was all kinds of options

09:32 prior to the rise of that group. And they're taking over the medical schools and then kind of standardizing everything under the auspices of public safety, oh quackery and you know people need this gold standard we're going to set it for them. You can then trust a medicine but their real agenda which is actually documented is that they want to make more profits. They wanted to make it like an elitist thing that only certain people could even pay for to go to school And so there's that indoctrination in medical schools. So all of this happened first, before we got to today and this insane lockdown world we've had to live in the last few years.

10:09 It's important to understand that so that we can then free ourselves from it and so that's really why I wanted to do that. I want it to have its sort of all one place where you could just see, that path and what transpired well you do a great job and is true that when you look at the history of a lot of different segments of the conspiracy pie it's usually one Trigger events that you are confronted with your like wow i can't believe they would do that and then if you look at the history of those sorts of things you find that it's not the first time in its all built on a foundation that goes back along time nine eleven example use all the time that was a big awakening thing for me.

10:49 You first hear the term false flag and you're like well that sounds weird but then you look at the history of false flags and it's not weird all its pretty standard practice in medical conspiracies are also similar i think when you start to think about it. It's like wow could they really pull something off like this it seems like too big a lie, get away with what if you actually looked at the history of it you can see how it was done like you say the am a Medical school i mean does medical school and the medical profession really have to be as grueling as it is the schedules that there under it almost seems like some kind of torture, no more seems like a person's unable to think properly because they are always sleep deprived in all ways on call.

11:37 and there has to be a better way yet in so many years they never explore that i wonder why that is maybe they don't want people thinking too deeply about what they learned in the box. Yeah, exactly. Right on point I mean that's what it is it's really like a whole hazing ritual that med students go through and that is for the purpose of indoctrination but it's like they cannot question authorities and many who come out and spoken about their experience and who've seen really understood woken up to the fact of what happened to them and what its intent is have described it that way and have described as a kind of torture sleep deprivation protein deprivation

12:17 and also under these horrific conditions, and you're seeing horrific things. And it's really to me akin to soldiers in the battlefield. Like soldiers in the battlefield there is a hierarchy and there is a chain of command. So as the resident you cannot question anybody above you so as you climb that ladder you can take a different position but there's always somebody up higher than you that you take orders from And if you fall out of line at all, you lose your license just like that. So that's it." Really who is guiding all that is the medical boards and hospital boards and who are funding them? The funding is always important so following the money as usual will lead us to the actual conspirators and people orchestrating these things. It's always that simple really but

CHAPTER 04 / 19 Discussion

Suppression of Alternative Cures, Stanley Meyer and Energy Devices

The conversation shifts to the systematic suppression of individuals who offer alternative medical cures or energy solutions. Examples include the legal targeting of herbalists and the confiscation of ozone machines, alongside a comparison to Stanley Meyer’s water-powered engine. The claim is made that both the medical and energy industries prioritize controllable, profitable systems over the most effective or beneficial technologies for the public.

alternative medicine· stanley meyer· water engine· medical license· ozone machines

13:07 Right and the intent is such an important thing to focus on. And i think what really woke me up to it not having altruistic intentions the medical establishment is just how many people are attacked when they have alternative cures they lose their medical license, am i even be put in jail there businesses are definitely shut down and If you really ask a lot of medical professionals, they will say that it's a learning process. Like they think they're in this medical field and we know a lot but there is still a lot we don't know and were learning more all the time well then why are you shutting down the guy who has a line around the block because he is carrying cancer? You do not have to cure cancer right like there's a lot of things that you can't care so why don't you learned from this person instead of shutting them down so I think that goes along way into

14:00 revealing their true intentions and they're not good. Yeah, absolutely there's so many stories of raids on old ladies who are you know just giving out free herbal advice or free medicines and confiscating ozone machines that's been a more recent event things like that but You're right SC act and this happens in the realm of energy to stanley myers water engine they find all sorts of different energy devices and fuel sources and if they're not as easy to control is oil well they get shut down so they don't. Want us to have the best of the best they want us to have the most profitable for a few

CHAPTER 05 / 19 Discussion

COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects, Graphene Oxide and Myocarditis

Shannon Rowan discusses reported adverse effects of COVID-19 injections, including myocarditis, fertility issues, and "turbo cancer." The presence of graphene oxide is highlighted as a conductive material that may interfere with the heart's electrical activity, particularly during physical exercise. Rowan criticizes the medical community's refusal to link sudden health collapses, such as POTS or heart failure, to recent vaccinations despite documented side effects in manufacturer inserts.

covid-19· graphene oxide· myocarditis· turbo cancer· pots

14:40 And you spend a lot of time on the covid shots and all the issues that came along with them. The Gillian bar syndrome, myocarditis fertility issues and there's a lot of people now using this term turbo cancer fast acting cancer that hits people harder and faster than it traditionally does And you use the term in the book, walking time bombs. Which is a strong term for sure what information do we have now about the jabs that we might not even had a year or two ago? Yeah

15:17 Well, I don't know if we didn't have it a year or two ago but the fact that they all contain graphene oxide. That's sort of linked to the walking time bomb idea because it is highly conductive. They call it superconductor metal which is actually being implemented in the Internet of Things with 5G because the Internet of Things really involves us humans and actually any life form is the desire Masters of the Universe self-proclaimed is to get us all into this intranet of things so that they can control, like micromanage and track and trace everything. And what we've seen with some of the jabbed is that they actually have these Mac IP addresses that they're sending out that you can read from them which is really telling right there but also the graphene oxide itself has been described as these tiny little razor blades it can just cut through... You know this is what's causing

16:09 blood issues like both hemorrhaging and clotting. So that problem is, okay since they're conductive and your heart's electrical for example we saw these soccer players dropping dead on the field or having heart attacks and that's because the increased electrical activity while they're running in their heart will actually attract the graphene oxide to it and then cause damage and this is why you can be like in your system but not doing anything yet until you have the event where you might exercise too much, simply thinking of doing something good for your body and your health. And then suddenly you're collapsing. I've actually known several people to collapse after exercise even mild exercise taking a walk who were jabbed even accompanied one to the hospital first got diagnosed with myocarditis and then something else. I even asked the doctor at that time could it be she just got a booster so many days ago? He's like

17:01 No i mean could it happen well anything can happen yes i mean there's a zero zero point one percent chance of what happened and given this person sister it's not likely in my mind how can you say it's not likely how can you actually say somebody just had a drug. you know, the thing is people have this other idea of vaccines that it's something different from a drug. And this has been indoctrination for everybody all medical professionals say vaccines are different and it's like they just give them that label. It's like they're immune to everything they can't cause any problems even though statistics show us otherwise but even their own reporting system which is only 1% of them these events get reported but

17:39 the fact that you just had a drug given if there's any other pharmaceutical drug was given five days before at heart event, if you're a good doctor or any doctor usually would say well maybe it's that drug let's look at that especially when the side effects that are documented already say myocarditis. Say all these things! You don't even look at the pamphlet inserts I mean I just sent this to a friend who has developed POTS and you know, had the jab and she's my age. And all of a sudden she has these weird problems and she has POTS and that's the postural orthopedic something syndrome but it's like basically not able to walk anymore or really debilitating." I gently said, hey have you looked at this? Here is the Pfizer, these side effects with special interest that are documented here is the link to it says POTS right here maybe you want to because the doctors are saying they don't know why

CHAPTER 06 / 19 Discussion

Bluetooth MAC Addresses, Vaccinated Individuals and Electronic Tracking

A controversial claim is examined regarding vaccinated individuals allegedly emitting Bluetooth MAC addresses or magnetic signals. Rowan cites a French research team and personal anecdotes of people triggering metal detectors at job sites or appearing as searchable devices on smartphone scans. This phenomenon is linked to the broader concept of the "Internet of Things" and the potential for human bodies to be integrated into digital tracking networks.

bluetooth· mac address· electronic tracking· graphene oxide· magnetic signals

18:31 Isn't that crazy? The doctors don't know what it is, but they know it's not that. That's the common thing like well I don't know what caused this but I know was not the vaccine and that would be impossible and its like as you say all drugs have side effects But if they're put in a syringe then put under your skin thats magic! That can do no harm And you mentioned the bluetooth mac addresses thing i actually took this from the book is i wanted to bring it up because i really haven't. Hurt that i mean at the beginning we heard all kinds of things about the magnetism and stuff but, this definitely kind of went by the wayside but you say trapped in the net bluetooth mac addresses in the vaccinated

19:12 Anyone branded like cattle with the new shots are likely sending their data to remote servers via their new MARC or Bluetooth signals and MAC IP addresses which have consistently been picked up from the vaccinated. Several videos have documented this phenomenon, including a compelling one from a French research team who initiated the participation of random volunteers in a public park. separating them into groups of vaccinated and unvaccinated, and tested each to see if any were registering an unnamed MAC address. Which many from the vaccinated group did! These new human IP addresses show up when an Android smartphone or Bluetooth-enabled laptop activates the Bluetooth setting which then scans the area for a connection to reachable Bluetooth devices

20:00 Like I said, i hadn't heard this is pretty out there but i guess it's happening if i wanted to test this with my vaccinated friends. I would just what i mean i find out here at my home i know what things would be searchable on the network and then I'd have my buddy over, and there would be one more searchable thing. Yeah exactly! A lot of people have tested this including friends of mine that's why i don't think it's just some kind of scam you know some kind of internet hoax because i had a friend who has been testing on his phone going around...I do not use cell phones but he was noticing all the new weird IP addresses they look different they have a different kind of numbering sequence than what you normally see

20:41 on your other devices and it would match the people coming into the space he was in or almost match. And of course you could say, well maybe they're carrying something on them that has that but again these look like different the way they were listed out so from like a laptop or something. Man! It seems weird with that sort of evidence that it just hasn't been explored more or exposed you would think Yeah, and I actually met a woman. And this is not even me searching just people I'm meeting and I'm living pretty remotely who had traveled to well you know was actually working somewhere where there were some Airbnbs for awhile so I met travelers a lot during this whole scam-demic thing and she actually said she didn't want to get the job but did because she's a teacher or whatever. So when she was traveling, recently took a trip on her airplane at the airport they had

21:36 Get the metal you know the wand out to scan her because something went off when she went through that metal detector and they kept scanning at her job site on her arm and couldn't find anything like it was. Scanning it was sending out a magnetic signal like there is something metallic their weird weird So a thread that kinda weaves through the book is that the medical system has a lot of occult symbolism within it from the staff of her me symbol to blood letting to lucifer rays and microsoft patent 060606 and even graphing oxide having a molecular weight of 666 but you also mention

CHAPTER 07 / 19 Discussion

Occult Symbolism, Elon Musk and Corporate Branding

The discussion analyzes the use of occult and biblical symbolism in modern technology and medicine, citing names like Luciferase, Illumina, and Odin. Elon Musk’s affinity for the letter "X" is connected to numerology and his mother’s reported interest in occult imagery. The segment suggests that these naming conventions are intentional signals rather than random branding choices by elite figures in the tech industry.

elon musk· luciferase· illumina· numerology· occult symbolism

22:17 genome sequencing company Illumina and their offshoot Grail, as in like holy grail. And the company that sells personal CRISPR machines is called Odin. It's kind of hard to tell exactly what's being communicated and all that but it doesn't seem very positive does it? No not at all I'm sorry I'm laughing just because it's so ridiculous when you start noticing this it's just kind of in our faces but we just tune it out because we're so used to like, oh different kinds of branding and people just kind of coming up with a name they think sounds cool or something. But if you're not really paying attention then you don't notice how much all these things connect and I've just recently wrote a blog post about this disease X thing right? So x is actually six in numerology and so you know triple x movie is 666 says something about pornography right there

23:07 But then there's all these Xs, all of a sudden. Elon Musk named his firstborn son AshX something or 12x has this x in it and he calls him Baby-X that's his nickname for his kid and then you have Space-X right? And now Twitter is X and now there's Disease-X I mean so to me it's like these sixes are coming up and there's like a hex, you know in the hexagram is actually six sided. And there's something called Hex Wave and I wrote about this in Welcome to the Masquerade as this system like the airport scanners using 5G and it can undress you basically and they started trialing this in public places and 2020 just coincidentally with everything else going on

23:54 supposedly just to find concealed weapons on people, but without their consent or knowledge. You know covertly installed and the idea the plan is to put them everywhere in churches anywhere public gatherings could happen and so this is blasting you with this radiation And also undressing you without your consent? And again they call it hex wave I mean hexes a curse right why would you even call it that It's just like so bizarre if you really think about that Why are they being called that So it's something, yeah. Definitely to pay attention to. Yeah I mean that's my thought on a lot of this stuff like you don't have to call something grail or odin or luciferase like you made it why is it called luciferase? Like that's totally up to you! It could be called anything

24:39 And it is a little bit strange like Elon Musk's obsession with X is bizarre. I don't know if you've looked much into his mother but she seems to love occult symbolism and all that stuff, I don't know the depth of her background really but it seems like a lot of it does filter down from her. Yeah thats possible Well, here's a paragraph from the book kind of on the theme of occultism that I did not expect to find. But you write in the 12th century French Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki often simply referred to as Rashi provided his own commentary on the scriptural passages from Kings Isaiah and Jeremiah referencing a Tolfeth

CHAPTER 08 / 19 Discussion

Moloch Worship, Vaccine Rituals and Pediatric Medical Ethics

The conversation draws a parallel between ancient child sacrifice to the deity Moloch and modern medical practices, specifically vaccinations and circumcision. Rowan argues that the "good of the herd" mentality justifies the sacrifice of individual children to vaccine injuries. The segment also touches on the lack of liability for pharmaceutical companies and the difficulties parents face when seeking compensation through the specialized vaccine court system.

moloch· child sacrifice· vaccines· circumcision· vaccine court

25:26 which has, quote, been defined as both a location in ancient Jerusalem where there was a special bronze statue internally heated by fire or the statue itself into which children were apparently thrown for sacrifice. Rashi continues with Tolfeth is Moloch, which was made of brass and then heated him from his lower parts. And his hands being stretched out and made hot they put the child between His hands and it was burnt. When it vehemently cried out the priests beat a drum that the father might not hear the voice of his son and his heart might not be moved." Some claim that worshippers of Moloch persist to this day

26:09 Man that is dark but i struggle to understand why a father would just allow that to happen or. Why they would wait for the screams and be like oh wait nevermind probably not a good idea let me get my son back it's just weird thing but if, followers or worshippers of Moloch were still around today. How would we get more clarity on that? Do you think that's the case, is that what the medical system is based upon in your view?" I wonder because well, first of all the interesting thing about that symbolically to me is that Moloch is like a calf headed thing. Right? So again vaccines cows cattle was always coming up you know we're cattle were heard members the reasons called vaccines came from cow pus in the original one for smallpox and vodka means cow and so you've got these cows and then you've got to me it's like all these children were and have been continually sacrificed with vaccines

27:09 And even like the doctors who promote it will say, well some of them will have to be sacrificed for the good of the herd. You know they just openly say that when children die from vaccines it's for the good of the herd so you just have to accept that your child was one of the sacrificed ones to protect everyone else. So that attitude is really prevalent about this I mean the ones who even acknowledge that it will do this and can do this when it happens that's what they So that's one aspect of it. There is the whole bohemian grove rituals that happen with something that looks kind of like moloch, but it's not quite I think it has an owl head and not a cow head but they've done these ritualistic

27:51 The leaked stuff, from people who've been there said they actually did sacrifice children and people to this. But then there's also been effigies and actual pictures we have in footage is like well these are just effigies noticing oh we're just doing it symbolically but why are you even symbolically burning effigies of babies or human or adults to this thing? It doesn't make any sense The other thing that strikes me is every time I hear about how babies are treated, like hospital births. You know especially if the baby has to be in an ICU and how they're treated by the staff by everybody there. And it's just a very detached attitude but also it seems like they're just ritualistically torturing them. If you really step back and look at that and question the benefits of what they're doing and the actual outcomes statistically with these babies

28:44 it just starts to look like they're doing this. I mean, I don't think the people doing it know they're doing this you know again they're indoctrinated and they're following orders but somebody must! You know? Like... It just looks like to me..I mean there's go around scratching their feet every day poking them pricking them getting their blood constantly taking blood taking blood taking blood And this has always been a running theme through allopathic medical history is this bloodletting and blood ritual stuff. So the original vaccines actually were inoculations, they called them with smallpox was ritualistic. It was a ritualistic superstitious practice. This is what this is founded on that actually involved scratching one arm scratching another and mingling the blood similar to a blood oath. And there were blood oath covenants in which you like

29:32 cut open an animal and step through this animal. I mean there's just a lot of blood involved, but yeah so it just...I think you ask well how could somebody let that happen? But how can people, how can doctors today let babies scream and wail when they circumcise them without any anesthetics and they have this baby strapped down so he is immobile and they say that babies can't feel pain until they're like two years old! This is what a lot of doctors believe. They hear the screaming But they say it's just some kind of reflex or something that they're not able to feel pain. Are you kidding me? So, what's happened to you? Where is your heart?" You know, what's happened to your humanity and your empathy and compassion? The fact that you can ignore that is staggering. And it's just common. Even a lot of parents have been conditioned to ignore their baby screaming especially when they don't know how to stop it screaming. They don't know what's wrong. This happens repeatedly after vaccinations

30:28 And parents will call the doctor and say, my baby's suddenly screaming. Arching his back I can't get him to stop. Oh it's okay it's normal pass its normal don't worry about it you'll be fine you know and then next thing he knows having seizures and they see those are uncontrollable on them then there's brain damage in his mental retarded for life and dependent on the medical system and that a lot of money and parents go bankrupt you know me spend up to millions of dollars sometimes caring for these children for the rest their lives because of these vaccine injuries and nobody's liable for that. I mean, the state is liable not the vaccine companies no pharmaceutical companies you cannot sue them ever there's vaccine courts but then good luck getting into that court and having your case tried it may take at least eight years and then you may not get anything and there's caps on how much you can get

31:19 So you spend eight years, you're caring for a disabled child. It's hundreds of thousands of dollars and they might give you $200,000 as the cap to what they can even award you." Yeah. You think if you are trying to prove causation that proximity to the event would be somewhat important? I mean that's why we have a statute of limitations is like where you can't really prove sexual assault a decade later so yeah i would say the same thing like you should kind of prioritize those cases because they should be close to the event you're trying to make your case for. But I have two healthy kids and they are a handful, I could only imagine how difficult it is to have non-healthy kids it's so much but my kids are unvaccinated and one is uncircumcised and I wish that kept them from crying and screaming all day but it does happen

CHAPTER 09 / 19 Discussion

Mass Graves, Medical Experimentation and Foster Care

The discussion details historical and modern instances of medical experimentation on vulnerable children, including HIV trials overseen by Anthony Fauci's team on foster children in New York. Rowan references the 2014 discovery of a mass grave at a mother and baby home in Tuam, Ireland, where hundreds of infants were buried in a septic tank. These events are presented as evidence of a systemic disregard for the lives of children within institutional care.

fauci· foster care· ireland· mother and baby homes· medical experimentation

32:13 On the subject of sacrificing children to the medical system i brought this up and previous interviews but it's worth mentioning again at the gate of heaven cemetery in hawthorne new york celia farber found a pit. With maybe a hundred plain wooden coffins and she said there was more than one child body and each and a semi circle of tombstones with thousand names on it and, These were apparently HIV positive kids that pouches team experimented on but then you go on to say another mass grave was uncovered in twenty fourteen revealing the bodies of roughly eight hundred babies and children, pile into a massive septic tank sitting in the back of a structure.

32:57 and forgotten with neither gravestones nor coffins, the structure in question is that of the remains of a mother and baby home in Ireland. One of many homes in which Irelands unwed mothers and babies were housed between 1922-1998. The mass grave found at this particular home was considered to be quote probably not unique Yikes, Shannon. I don't know if you have other examples of that but that's about as dark as it gets Yeah, just the fact they're in a septic tank again thinking of that attitude what is saying about the attitude? Just horrible and so yeah those homes actually operated until the 1990s last home was operating in 1990 this was recent history and a lot of these kids were used for vaccine experiment programs

33:51 So yeah, what it was is like unwed mothers. So yes shameful Catholic Church ruling everything they send them there basically their slaves or prisoners there and sometimes are raped or stories of them being raped one woman reported having being made to walk around while she was in labor for 12 hours and then once she had her baby they took it from her And then the priest proceeded to rape her right after you took her baby from her Hmm Yeah, pretty sick and dark. She was not allowed to touch her baby. Baby's taken away separated from her and then she doesn't know what happens to them a lot of those kids are sex trafficked some of them are experimented on with pharmaceuticals And these were coming from the biggest pharmaceutical companies places like Ireland that had a kind of attitude about these kids You know easy place to get compliance for experimentation

34:44 And the same thing in our country, this foster system. Foster care often ends up sacrificing kids to medical experimentation and that's what we saw with Fauci. That was just one location out of many and likely seven different states where they were having these experiments where there were also mass graves from those who died of it. I actually read an article where they still argued that it's still benefited the children because these are underprivileged kids who otherwise not get medical treatment. They're giving them drugs that have black box label warnings on them, which means that they're lethal for adults and they're trying to mount on these kids and they're saying that they would otherwise not get medical care a lot of these kids are only testing positive. They're not sick, not visibly sick. And this is why I also go into this in the book about the fraudulent testing right? This PCR

35:33 Testing nonsense and the fact that there's not even a virus never isolated the HIV virus has not happened so this is all fraud. And so basically what are they doing then you know in the kids who wouldn't comply with taking these medications they will force feed them, they will insert tubes medically cut open their stomachs and insert tubes into them to get them to take the medicine. I mean, that's the lengths they'll go too and if that's not torturing children and sacrificing them i don't know what it is...I mean to what purpose? What did they learn from any of this Yeah dark stuff so let me ask you about this but you say that the four holy waters of the church of death which is a great term for modern medicine are immunizations fluoridated water intravenous fluids and silver nitrate all questionable safety, which could equally be called before horses of the apocalypse.

CHAPTER 10 / 19 Discussion

Intravenous Fluids, Silver Nitrate and Trendy Drip Bars

Shannon Rowan questions the safety and necessity of routine hospital procedures like silver nitrate eye drops for newborns and intravenous (IV) fluids. The host shares a negative personal experience with a "trendy" IV drip bar, noting a persistent chemical smell and lack of health benefits. Rowan argues that even alternative IV treatments, such as ozone therapy or high-dose Vitamin C, can involve risks like microwave heating of fluids or the use of lethal blood thinners.

iv fluids· silver nitrate· drip bars· ozone treatment· saline solution

36:30 Can you elaborate on those last two? I've never really heard anyone criticize intravenous fluids or silver nitrate. Yeah, that was a quote from Dr Mendelsohn who... That was his opinion which i used as an illustration of who is the doctor and his opinion about that. I don't know much about either. I think he's referring to these eye drops that they immediately give to babies when they're born in hospital, that I think he's saying about questionable safety and use. And so I haven't researched it further but it is interesting to hear that because I did research this was a long time ago and heard that this was of questionable value and actually can harm the babies. So you know just something they do automatically another thing they do in the hospital automatically that doesn't really have any documented benefit and that has documented harm

37:18 intravenous fluid, I think anytime you inject any bodies with something you risk introducing some kind of foreign material. And so it's not a natural method of getting anything into the body that's not something we naturally experience when you're ingesting things doesn't go through the needle into your veins especially into your blood. Think about that! It's easy to contaminate your blood And even the fact that they so-called sterilize the needles, what are they using to sterilize with? You know bleach some other chemical. I mean that means that's going into your blood whatever is on that needle is going into your blood never mind what's in the syringe. I mean saline solution sounds innocuous right? What is saline solution? What is the salt they're using if you look at what salt actually is and I have this in the book it can have sucrose in it can have aspartame in it can have

38:13 all kinds of different substances and what we call salt. So that's going into your body You know, maybe you can argue sometimes the benefit would outweigh the harm. The risk if somebody is severely dehydrated or something like that but then again you can just give subcutaneous fluids under the skin doesn't have to be into your veins. Or you just have them drink a bunch of those fluids too? Or just slowly drink water and yeah hydrate! So I guess you're not much of a fan of those trendy drip bars and those IV bars that are popping up all over the cities No, no. In fact I did once submit myself to when I was very sick after all the radiation poisoning and everything else trying all kinds of different things and I tried that ozone treatment where they actually remove my blood and put it in a bag. I watched it you know take blood out put it in a bag ozone treat it and then put it back into me

39:09 And it always like left me I felt horrible after but it was like oh you'll feel terrible to be really good for you and the thing is why do we realize they didn't even disclose to me this is like a so-called alternative doctor integrated medical doctor which may be worse but. First of all, the microwave will heat up things in the microwave. I actually had the vitamin C IVs as well and they heat that up in a microwave and that does a lot of damage to the structure of everything there with microwaves but also when they were putting my blood back into my body, they add like a blood thinning drug And they said, I have to do this because otherwise might clot. Well those blood thinning drugs can be lethal and there's all kinds of risk factors there so i just ended up realizing all that after the fact and didn't do it again but yeah even these kind of treatments that sound maybe like they're good alternatives we have to really look at more carefully

40:04 Yeah i tried it for my allergies and I went twice and I just thought man the people who work here are the least healthy seeming people and they were always bragging about how they get the bag all the time in life they get a discount on the bags and there is constantly sticking themselves and fill themselves up And after the second time, I had like a chemical smell. It was like coming out of my pores it was very strange and it lasted for two weeks and I'm just can't shake this weird smell and that's because you put this stuff in me and now its seeping out and its kind of gross and my allergies are not any better

CHAPTER 11 / 19 Discussion

Globalism, Slave Labor and Inescapable Financial Systems

The dialogue explores the difficulty of opting out of a global system that funds unethical practices through taxes and 401k investments. The host and guest discuss how standard index funds often prop up companies like Monsanto and Meta, effectively making citizens complicit in environmental devastation and slave labor. They conclude that modern globalization has replaced traditional slavery with a more opaque, systemic version that is nearly impossible to avoid.

401k· monsanto· slave labor· taxes· globalism

40:44 What about the stem cell injections that are supposed to make you youthful and prolong your life or whatever healthy, but those are coming from aborted fetuses mostly. So again ritualistic practices possibly luciferian another use for like an aborted fetus They do incept us into their weird call to make it a super dissipate and many ways the medical system that is one of the biggest way is aborted fetal tissue in. Products or even just all the torturing animals and we're like god's fine its necessary for the greater good and then of course something always think about is just the car mc,

41:25 effect of our tax dollars and how everything is structured so that we have to invest in the 401k or we just give our money to the government so they're gonna get it through one of those mechanisms either goes to the war machine through the 401k. And everyone is investing in their four one k, It's just in like the standard s and p or whatever one of these index funds which is all the top companies which are. The enemy it's all monsanto bear facebook, tell the people you don't wanna be propping up and yet either you give your money to them for the government just takes it away from me and then you're also funding the war machine so they've structured everything in a way that you cannot

42:09 keep from participating and giving your money to the negative things that you wish were gone in the world. I mean, i kind of like wow it's really impressive how you've done that and you've gotten millions of people to just accept it It's amazing. I was just having this conversation with my partner last night about karma and this exact thing, how do you escape from that trap that they have us in? This is the system like you cannot not participate if you want to survive. We all know that especially textiles right there are sweatshops and we don't know really where our clothes come from but we don't really have any other options right? The globalization of everything creates

42:47 condition in which we all have to participate and slavery, we say slavery has been abolished is not been abolished. We just don't see it anymore. And now that we can't just have neighbors who had these trades and that they've had their families for generations where they make everything you can't buy it locally from your neighbors, you have to buy it from this global market. And this includes electronics. It includes almost everything we used somewhere along those lines was like some slave labor or environmental devastation involved so trying to get yourself out of the system and even if you say I'm not going pay taxes every time you shop you pay taxes Everything you do with your money is taxed and it goes to these machines like you said. Yeah, that's true

CHAPTER 12 / 19 Discussion

Transhumanism, Avatar Futures and the Metaverse

The future of humanity is discussed through the lens of transhumanism, brain chips, and the "Avatar" project in Japan, which aims for 50% population participation by 2045. Rowan warns of a trajectory where humans live primarily in virtual reality or the Metaverse to escape a degraded physical world. However, both speakers express hope that these technocratic plans will ultimately fail because they are based on a flawed, mechanistic understanding of human consciousness.

transhumanism· metaverse· avatars· brain chips· zuckerberg

43:33 So towards the end of the book it just gets so wild with hive mind a i systems brain chips and human operating systems in all the transhumanist stuff that i think. People here little bit about but still really have a hard time fully understanding what do you really think the next fifty years would look like if they had their way how do ya wrap all that stuff together and say well this is what they would be doing to people Yeah, I hate to think about the next 50 years on this trajectory. I don't want to be around for it! Well...I'm presenting what is in the scientific literature and what they're saying is happening and what they are capable of

44:15 My hope is that some of that is just to mislead us and to get us to believe that they can do things it can't really do, because I don't believe that we're like machines. And that's always been this mechanistic view of allopathic medicine and just people the elite who think that were worthless useless eaters, is that we're just like machines and they can program us and they can hack into us and they can change our so called software But I think half the battle that we're engaged in is this kind of mental and spiritual one, in that do we believe that or not? I don't think it's possible to do really what they say. And the thing is, the promises of when people who are actually falling for this idea that we could live forever or we can prolong our lives and we can have better lives through the use of technology and through transhumanism which is basically merging man and machine...I think those promises are going to fall really short of the mark and then basically empty like every other promise we've been made with modern medicine and technology of making our lives easier giving us more leisure time

45:14 making us more prosperous, making us healthier. None of those things have happened and the opposite has happened so what I see is this degradation of humanity that's the path we're on. We're being degraded physically and emotionally mentally and spiritually these are all interconnected and so it happens as we increasingly become dependent on technology less on ourselves to do things of course we give away that power and that enslaves us and so what's going to happen On this path and it's already happening for example so is the problem reaction solution right so we got. the problem of amputees now because of the vaccines. And so what's the solution? Oh, we can give you some great new robotic arms and of course if you lost your arms and legs, you might be clamoring for something like that. You might say yeah that would be better than not having anything So when you create a race of humans that are actually that disabled and then you offer them this technological solution even though technology in the first place caused the problem and people may not remember that

46:15 they'll sign up for that. So the next stage is then, will that work very well? Probably not! I mean already people's bodies tend to reject anything that is foreign so you know any of these parts that we've already had are problematic when you get implants of any kind moreso for some people than others But what we're looking at, the plans are for this avatar future as well. Not just human cyborgs but avatars even you and I right now we're using this platform right? And now there's all these zoom meetings replacing in-person meetings You can do so much more online now than you have to do in real life anymore and so

46:55 Japan had this news article saying it actually was anticipating that 50% of its population would be living as avatars by the year 2045. So, that means they will live at home just think of like a surrogate movie with Bruce Willis You live at home you're hooked up to i've been drugs and your body doesn't really work anymore so you just have your virtual reality headset. And there's other articles i've seen besides that one promoting this do you wanna go experience being a fishing boat the high seas somewhere, you don't have to do it physically cuz how uncomfortable would that be you can have a robot

47:32 out there for you and you can tap into it with your virtual reality headset, and you can experience being inside the robot. And therefore fishing and like people won't have to fish anymore robots can do it so robots can start taking over all these tasks and we can actually not just have one avatar robot working for us, but many different ones. And with our implants in our head and our headsets we can link up to these and then experience so-called experience life out there because life out there is getting scary. There's germs or viruses so why not just stay inside? And then have these experiences that way. So the metaverse happening with Zuckerberg you know the same idea SIM version of yourself online that kind of digital avatar

48:16 They're even talking about hologram versions of ourselves, not even having to exist physically anymore. They think that they can just make a digital copy of our brains —a twin brain they call it— and that they think the brain is us right? So all you have to do is make a digital version of your brain and then you can have that as you living forever and you don't have to have a body! You can have a hologram...you can live in virtual reality forever so-called reality but All kinds of fun options awaiting yeah i mean i think you're right that they are working off a lot premise and that is gonna be the thing that ultimately saves us they don't even have a good concept of what consciousness really is. And so there gonna,

49:01 make all these technologies based off an incorrect model and so many guests i have are saying that they're going to fail at all of these technocratic plans the only question is how much do we have to suffer before the majority of people realize that their gonna fail. And i think thats insightful, I think that's the answer to the question or the question we need to answer You're right about having us live more digital lives. Yes, we're either too poor for real world experiences or we're so unhappy with ourselves and stressed out that we need the escapism. Or like you said, we're afraid it's like why take the risk of a big crowd when I could just go to a Fortnite concert?

CHAPTER 13 / 19 Discussion

Digital Addiction, Tech Layoffs and Content Consumption

The host posits that recent mass layoffs in the tech industry signal "peak tech," where consumers are satisfied with existing apps and primarily seek passive content consumption. Rowan, who is writing a book on digital addiction, discusses how screen time has become a normalized escape from unfulfilling lives. They contrast the hollow "achievements" of video games with the genuine fulfillment found in physical effort and nature.

digital addiction· tech layoffs· joe rogan· screen time· escapism

49:56 it's kinda creepy i don't really like seeing that kind of stuff i heard another interesting premise recently that the reason why you're seeing all these tech industry layoffs is massive layouts, is because we're kind of at peak tech. Where a lot of people have said i don't need a new app i don't need anything i just need you to and the screen in a couple content creators not just gonna sit on my couch, and stare at my phone and watch youtube or start the tv. And i dont need any more advancements and of course capitalism every company has to grow ten percent year or it's worth nothing apparently so

50:36 People are kinda reacting now that it's a good thing because they're saying i'm fulfilled by the screen and what i have now already like that's obviously really bad. But it made me think a lot about how much i am in front of screens and how much content absorbing because, the tech companies are laying off hundreds of people while at the same time content creators are signing seventy million dollar deals joe rogan sign a new two hundred fifty million dollar deal and it's like that's interesting. Because it's just all people want to do is watch something. They are unhappy with their lives, they are either sick or like I said too poor. I think that's the main thing is people start to feel...I used to make that calculation with my video game systems like oh buy an Xbox because its only 300 bucks and now by a new game every couple of months which was only 60 bucks, I'm keeping myself entertained for pretty cheap

51:34 But walking outside is free going to play frisbee golf is free. You know, this is the mental gymnastics we do to keep our addictions really are digital addictions Yeah I'm glad you said that because my next book that I am in the middle of writing is about digital addiction and I think it's a really important topic right now like maybe more than anything because its sort up to me the real trap. And even for myself, like you said I start to think about a lot of this research I've been doing has helped me to analyze my own use of technology and reconsider and re-evaluate and also just kind of forge a new relationship with it which is like a kind of lessening of a relationship breaking off from but yeah it's like...I would say all of us have some level of addiction that we don't identify because it's so normalized

52:24 and accept it. It's the most normal, I accepted addiction out there. Everybody has it so what's the problem? Like you said why are we not happy with our lives why are we always looking to escape or are we going to define our lives as just having been entertained oh I had a great life! I was entertained the whole time you know that's what did I mean you know like what happened to like other things we could do they're more fulfilling There's something to be said for like actually making effort, some kind of effort in your life and then having that fulfillment satisfaction of having done something more than like achieving a new level in the game. That's not an achievement. Sorry Greg you're gamer but you know... And they call them achievements too when you accomplish certain things in the game

CHAPTER 14 / 19 Discussion

Ivermectin Controversy, Controlled Opposition and Pharmaceutical Risks

Shannon Rowan offers a critical perspective on Ivermectin, suggesting that its promotion as a COVID-19 cure may be a form of controlled opposition. She notes that Bill Gates holds shares in the drug's manufacturer and warns of documented side effects like blindness and coma. The segment challenges the narrative that Ivermectin is a perfectly safe alternative, urging listeners to consider the body's natural self-healing mechanisms instead of pharmaceutical interventions.

ivermectin· bill gates· pierre kory· peter mccullough· covid-19

53:13 So i also wanted to ask you about ever met then because your pretty critical of it in the book and i also have kind of two minds about it cuz i like doctor pierre corey and peter mccullough, and during the pandemic i thought they were pretty decent voices to listen to compared to what we had you know as really just. grasping at straws, looking for some educated person who is on the alternative that I could point friends and family towards. And they had uses in that case but i also was a little bit like well why is this drug that kills worms and parasites useful against COVID? It didn't make sense to me necessarily but I thought it might just be over my head but talk to us about this and how

54:01 I guess what you're saying is these doctors are just kind of controlled opposition. They could be, I don't know if they know... Again, controlled opposition they don't always know they are the problem is their doctors and they went through this medical system and they're indoctrinated. They still have this viewpoint that modern medicine has benefits. I don't share that viewpoint at all. Maybe, I don't know. I could get into argument like well, if he had a broken bone Then again, it seems like they're actually finally realizing that casts aren't good for broken bones. That broken bones are actually best to just let it heal naturally and you can walk on it and that's actually better for it than not walking on it anyway. I hadn't heard that! Yeah so it's just funny but you got these doctors...I'm glad they spoke out about the tyranny in vaccines and everything and lockdowns but to present this other solution

54:53 of a pharmaceutical product that is known to have severe adverse events, so-called side effects including death, coma. Blindness is I think irresponsible and also we had... Sorry to cut you off but they say that the main use of the drug was to cure river blindness and it's been given to millions of people with no adverse events but help us understand because we got to rectify These two different opinions well because i'm again who's saying that mark is the company who makes this and you know another i think. Wait evil entity but yeah they just gave these away to poor africans to help them,

55:38 But yes, sometimes the result was blindness or coma or death. I mean this is documented that this can happen it's maybe not as easy to find anymore i found this evidence pretty early on when i was researching in 2020 when this came out and then i had a really hard time finding again but luckily i found like one of the articles i'd saved But yeah, this is propaganda. This is always the same thing with pharmaceutical companies and their propaganda marketing they say that oh it's 100% Oh, it's great nothing's 100% successful no drug is 100% anything I don't know if they ever cured anybody at all but it's definitely hurt people so you have to understand again like reading packet inserts for vaccines do some research and realize what kind of risks are taking here like you are taking a risk And also looking at money and funding

56:26 I think it was Bill Gates who had shares in that one. Yeah, Bill Gates has shares in ibumectin so even if he's not directly promoting it and he's promoting vaccines during this, he is going to make money either way right? If people go for like the presented alternative, he's standing to make a lot of money and probably has. And my own experience with people I've known who decided unfortunately also proactively as a preventative somehow got then tout it as a preventative. And you just take a small dose, use small dose and you'll prevent getting COVID so-called. So but I've had people hospitalized from this. I know somebody who actually was hospitalized because of this. I have another friend who didn't really link that together who had intestinal complaints and I'm like look it says you can have intestinal complaints from this again like you can't say it's not that if you took that and that's one listed events that can happen that they've documented

57:23 So, to me there's so many other options for health and healing. And why would you even risk that? You know you'll find cases of people where they say why took ivermectin and i was better in five days. And it's like well the body does have a self healing mechanism so how do you attribute anything you talk to your healing because u can't filter out your bodies ability to sell feel that always present in the nature of your body so

CHAPTER 15 / 19 Discussion

Chemtrails, Valley Fever and Sulfur Supplements

The discussion explores the theory that chemtrails drop polymers and spores that cause respiratory illness, which Rowan distinguishes from traditional germ theory. She shares a story of treating her partner's severe "Valley Fever" in Arizona using high doses of MSM (sulfur), an antifungal joint supplement. Rowan also explains the mechanism of Ivermectin as a GABA transmitter disruptor, warning that it can be as dangerous for humans as it is for certain dog breeds.

chemtrails· valley fever· msm· sulfur· antibiotics

58:00 Just because you got better in roughly a week or under a week, it doesn't really mean it was the thing you took. But you do say... Is that what you think was going on there? I think it's a possibility because there is a lot of evidence from chemtrails that allows spores, you know are dropped when they do that and spores can have an adverse effect on us when we inhale them. and they can cause a lot of havoc in the body. So unlike, you know, the unproven germ theory I think it is something that can be a problem. We're always inhaling spores of different kinds but some of these spores are like polymers actually. You know they have like polymers in them so it's a little different. It's a little bit harder for our bodies to deal with than like a natural environment, natural spores and there's also always issue balance and symbiosis. In nature when there's symbiosis

59:04 and a lot of different microorganisms, and a lot of different fungi all kind of cooperating working together. Then there is health you know same thing in our bodies so when you have like a predominant one thing over the other and you don't have balance then that can kind of make a lot of trouble but I just kind of thought of this example if i lived in Arizona for a while and my partner and I both got the valley fever symptoms when we first came there And it was like, there's a lot of these spores in the soil there and that are pretty horrible. I guess they can create holes in the lungs if they're left untreated and actually found a solution for that with sulfur

59:41 I did a lot of digging for this because, you know medical literature says there's no cure but you can take this one drug and maybe it'll have all these other bad things happen. But it's better than nothing." And so my partner was like he had death rattled in his chest to me. He was really sick crazy fever and spots on his skin and thought he was dying I found out sulfur was used in the 40s to treat this and it was used because it's a high antifungal properties, and it was use for like treating roses for fungus. And you could just go to the store or buy it for roses but you could just take it so you can buy it today as MSM that's what is sold under as like a joint supplement. And I just gave him high doses of it which meant an ounce divided into four parts in two days he was cured in 2 days. It did work

1:00:27 So, my point about something that might be anti-parasitical may help people feel better just like antibiotics often help people feel better when they have infections. But it doesn't mean it's better for you in the long run because of the compromise that is happening and because of these side effects potential but when we're sick, and our bodies are trying to help us get better. There's often these bacteria arise in our bodies not really coming at us from outside. And so when you create bacteria in your body to try to like get back into homeostasis and imbalance and you know detox They can release spores that cause symptoms that are really uncomfortable. So when you take like a full spectrum antibiotic, you kill off everything including the spores that made you feel that way and so the problem is you're delaying this event that's going to happen again later because you need it to happen

1:01:17 So you're just kind of postponing that. So yeah, I feel great because it took antibiotics but your body still needs to write this condition and now it's even harder because you've killed off all these bacteria that you need helped your body You know like you've had to start over again so that's how I see That could be the reason why people initially feel better, but I don't think... Again, I've seen these other repercussions down the road or even not that far removed from when they were taking it. So you're still possibly creating a lot of damage and destruction and also, I used to have a dog walking business ivermectin was a heartworm medicine for dogs. I mean, I know there's the human one and dog one but it's basically the same kind of thing and the problem is you need to learn how it works. And it works by disrupting the GABA transmitters in your body right so there's this GABA

1:02:06 amino acid production and it disrupts this. And this is like a really necessary production in your body, and somehow it disrupts this... It's supposed to just disrupt it in these parasites and basically kill them off that way but it can disrupt it in your body. Again they're never really that precision targeting that they say they are with these drugs you know? They lead us to believe that it's so precise and technology has been able to do all of this but there's still a lot of guesswork So, unfortunately a lot of these dogs who got the heartworm medication it's like 50-50 chance that they'll live or die. Because some of the dogs... because I actually say, I think I have it in my book, I explain a little more detail that well some may have this genetic difference that would make it so their own amino acid GABA would get interfered with and they don't know that in advance. Same with people like some people may have this

1:02:57 You know, they try to pretend like it's a mutation. Like it's a genetic anomaly but then again you can't really test for that in advance so you don't really know It's again another Russian roulette game which is kind of what you're dealing with pharmaceuticals in general Yeah yeah right on well Shannon... It's about that time Your book has tons of super impressive research It should be on every shelf I do hope people wake up to this stuff I mean, I have no faith left in the mainstream system. But the next step for me is to be less ignorant of the alternatives and maybe find a more helpful paradigm for my family because we're just kind of blowing in the wind but we're relatively healthy so I guess it's fine but give people any parting info they should have about your book or other books links all that good stuff yeah well you can go to my website which is wi-fi hyphen refugee dot com

CHAPTER 16 / 19 Discussion

WiFi Refugee, Book Promotion and Closing Advice

Shannon Rowan provides her website, WiFi-Refugee.com, and details her various publications, including illustrated children's books and her collaborations with John Hamer. She concludes with a positive message, encouraging listeners to build resiliency by taking breaks from the news, spending time in nature, and focusing on physical human connection. The host thanks Rowan for her extensive research and her commitment to exposing the "medical machine."

wifi refugee· shannon rowan· nature· grounding· health books

1:03:47 Unfortunately, Wi-Fi refugee was taken but not being used. But I don't know why. Anyway, www.WiFi-Refugee.com and you'll find links to my books there. You can actually buy on Barnes & Noble too if you don't want to buy on Amazon. You can buy from me directly if you email me or contact through my website. If you're in the US, I can send you a discounted signed copy outside the US, I can't do that. But yeah, Wi-Fi refugee played the modern day Canary if anybody's watching video actually have my books here and then they're big books. They're very thick heavy books. Well this is bigger let's see shots fired a vaccine weapons medical tyranny or against you just had the PDF so this is what the actual book looks like And then the one I co authored with john Hamer is about the same size welcome to The Masquerade

1:04:38 I even have a couple of illustrated children's books again on my website and working on a new one. So, and my podcasts are all there too. I try to keep it updated and I know that I'll put our link up once we have it but yeah just...I guess I want to part with like a positive note that I mean because you know we terrorize everybody with this information like you said it's like You know, we just have to do what we can. I think being you are for armed if you're forewarned and it's good to like knowledge is power but change what you can in your life and do your best. We can't control everything and they mean...you build your resistance in so many different ways and your resiliency. And one of them is a mental emotional component of taking a break from

1:05:26 the constant news. It's just always depressing and a lot of fear, I mean, we should know a certain degree of what is happening but really focus on building our own, supporting ourselves, our family members and getting out in nature to me nature is healing what access we have left to it. We need to safeguard that and get exposed to it and get out there so get away from the screens and yeah touch each other. Hugs, amen! All right yes very good advice it definitely can feel like doom porn sometimes people get glued to the drama of it all and we can only control what we can control I didn't get the jab but when I start hearing that they're using mosquitoes and food it's like oh look I did what I could do okay? Right

1:06:15 So it is what it is, but I appreciate the information. Your book is really great and thanks for talking to us today. Keep fighting the good fight! All right thank you Greg thanks so much Oh Lordy Shannon Rowan she came to play people It's been quite a while since we really had a big pharma show or anything that mentioned mRNA For some its never going to be long enough But I do like to try and help the people who do the hard work Her book is diverse enough in its background and some of the various threads that we could talk about, but I would like to think that most of us learned something or thought about the medical system in a new way. I do still struggle to get a true handle on the mRNA shot risk profile The mainstream won't admit it's responsible for anything and some of the alternative makes it seem like it's responsible for everything and should be the first question asked when anybody dies

CHAPTER 17 / 19 Discussion

Germ Theory Critique, Masha and Dasha, and Dr. Hamer

Following the interview, the host examines the case of conjoined twins Masha and Dasha to challenge the validity of germ theory, noting they often fell ill at different times despite sharing a circulatory system. This leads into a discussion of German New Medicine and its founder, Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer, who faced legal persecution for his "Iron Rule of Cancer." The host argues that the medical establishment functions as a cartel that suppresses successful alternative treatments to protect its monopoly.

germ theory· masha and dasha· dr. hamer· german new medicine· chiropractic

1:07:18 But the reality is, the way I see it there was no reason to get it. So it has no upside and it puts a person at some level of risk on the downside but what level is still pretty unclear? I don't know anyone who's had a serious problem yet but on the other hand apparently it killed both of George Wiseman's parents so I don't know...but it's clearly a cornerstone of The Big Plan and that should be enough to say No Obviously those decisions were made quite a while back. I struggle with the IP address thing though, i had some vaxxed family here over the weekend and it didn't show anything on my list of networks but its been two years I guess and they never got the boosters so maybe it requires a person to stay updated regardless the future is gonna get pretty crazy

1:08:11 But when Shannon said she is hopeful that they can't actually technically implement the things they want, I pretty much agree. When we were kids there were all sorts of promises about the future that never came true It was supposed to be some Jetsons utopia even when my dad was a kid Kinda sad now that only real future people can visualize is a disastrous one But still, you know what I'm saying. I think they're working on a flawed model of the human being at a base level so of course it won't work but a lot of people will die before we realize it. Oh wow! Well in the plus show we got a lot deeper into the right ways to think about health and what makes us ill there are still so many questions The contagion studies are what they are though

1:09:01 We've cited them before, but if you can't transfer illness from a sick person to a healthy person in the lab through mucus swabs and every possible way you could get discharges from one person onto or into another person then that model is radically flawed. That's just a fact! You know, one example Shannon uses that I didn't bring up in this interview is that of the Russian-Siamese twins Masha and Dasha. They had their own top halves and shared a bottom half and they would get sick separately and not always at the same time! I mean you can't get closer to a person than sharing organs right?

1:09:43 I found this, but here's a little from an article about them from the Advanced Sports and Family Chiropractic & Acupuncture website where they say... Conjoined twins named Masha and Dasha were born in Russia in the 1950s. They each had one arm shared one pair of legs, and the fusion created a circumstance where the twin shared many of their internal organs. Each twin did maintain separate hearts and circulatory systems This meant that the same blood which circulated through Masha's blood vessels also circulated through Dasha's vessels. The amazing and unique part of their health history focused on their nervous systems. Although the same blood circulated through their bodies, each twin possessed a separate and different brain and spinal cord. The separate nervous systems created fascinating instances where one twin would become ill while the other did not

1:10:41 The germs of the sick twin would flow through the shared blood of both twins, but only one would experience symptoms from the flu or measles virus. The other twin would be symptom-free. Medical schools continue to teach that germs cause disease. This simple philosophy implies that people become sick when they encounter germs. The case study of Masha and Dasha countered this hypothesis when germs circulating through the same body did not create a simultaneous effect on both twins. Scientific research proves that the immune system works under the direct control of the brain and nervous system

1:11:20 A 2013 book titled Autonomic Failure published the scientific proof that specific immune-fighting white blood cells operate under the direct control of the sympathetic nervous system. Such evidence proves revolutionary to health and medicine. Any interference with the nervous system makes a person more susceptible to illness. The spine is designed to be in a specific position, which allows for appropriate movement These factors enable the brain and nervous system to communicate effectively with organs and systems throughout the body. A misaligned or impinged vertebrae will alter the body's potential to heal at full capacity. Chiropractors do not seek to treat, cure, or heal symptoms of disease. Chiropractic adjustments gently improve position and movement in the spine so that brain and nervous system become balanced. Research proves that chiropractic adjustments improve immune function by removing interference from the nervous system

1:12:22 So there you have it. Obviously, they have their own solution that they're vested in being chiropractic but still germ theory is not correct and the system refuses to adjust the model because too much money is being made But let's go back to that line scientific research proves The immune system works under the direct control of the brain and nervous system well this German new medicine premise Is that sicknesses related to emotions which we can kind of control mentally, sounds like we're kinda in the same ballpark. We've talked about German New Medicine before most recently with Gordon but here's a little bit more about the life of its founder from Shannon's book The only reason Dr. Hamer had lost his medical license to begin with was because he had submitted the basic findings of his German new medicine which you called The Iron Rule Of Cancer in 1981 for a postdoctoral thesis

1:13:19 in order to qualify as a university lecturer. By 1986, after the University of Tübingen Germany rejected his proposal four years earlier, a German court barred him from practicing medicine on the basis that he quote failed to deny the iron rule of cancer and failed to convert to the tenets of official medicine during his 1997 arrest Hamer's patient files were seized which during the subsequent court proceedings bore out the fact that Hamer's approach to healing cancer had been a success. 6,000 terminal cancer patients were still living five years past their death sentences given to them by orthodox doctors. After his 2004 imprisonment, Hamer was officially early released on the condition that he recant his position but refused

1:14:13 Hamer was finally released in 2006 but was subsequently forced to spend the rest of his days in hiding as the German magistrate issued another order for his arrest on the same grounds. This persecution and imprisonment of legitimate healers is happening today, in the 21st century. Harkening back to the days of Roman Catholic Inquisitions which imprisoned, tortured and murdered anyone who did not fall in line with its orthodoxy which stands as testament to the fact that we have truly entered the dark ages of medicine. I mean, Jesus! It really is a mafia or cartel. They won't even allow alternatives. No competition only us. As we said in this show if they really meant well they would leave no stone unturned and welcome new input how much money is collected to cure research of every single disease it never solves anything

CHAPTER 18 / 19 Discussion

Natural Emergency Kits, Synthetic Vitamins and Holistic Nutrition

The host shares additional health advice from Shannon Rowan regarding natural alternatives for an emergency kit, including manzanita leaves, tea tree oil, and andrographis. They discuss the "bullshit" nature of synthetic vitamins, specifically noting that most commercial citric acid is derived from lab-cultured mold rather than fruit. The segment emphasizes a holistic approach to health, advocating for the consumption of whole foods like blueberries and oranges over isolated supplements.

manzanita· tea tree oil· citric acid· garlic· holistic health

1:15:09 They don't know what cures cancer, but they know it's not cannabis oil or SEACT or Rife devices or orgone accumulators or any of the things people were lining up for before they were banned and the creators jailed or killed. That's the reality. So in The Plus Show on top of virus deconstruction and a bit about the subtle art of poisoning I asked Shannon more about that emergency health kit I mentioned and if she was tasked with making something similar but using natural non-Big Pharma products, what would she have in it? And I'm not going to go over all the things she mentioned, but she did email me even more and i will add that info. But she said she would add manzanita leaves which are used as tea for bladder or urinary infections amazingly potent grows wild where she lives but you can also order it online

1:16:04 and a grafis herb, which is a bitter herb good liver tonic and also good for symptoms during acute colds and flus. Tea tree oil for cuts and scrapes and fungal infections on the skin and thyme oil which is an anti-fungal for skin or ringworm as well she also said she might be retracting her advice about sulfur supplements, at least in synthetic form because she's learning more about synthetic vitamins and how that's a lot of bullshit usually. But you could replace that with sulfur rich foods like garlic. It's funny because I actually heard something similar too You'll see a lot of food products that say they have citric acid in them or they'll say they have a lot of vitamin C and it comes from citric acid? I think even that emergency stuff you're supposed to take when you're sick

1:16:58 is basically citric acid? Well, I saw something recently that that's basically a mold that they culture in the lab and then use in all these products. It's not like they're squeezing an orange and extracting out the vitamin C so all that kind of stuff you know it never surprises me the more and more I learn that a lot of this stuff is bullshit You really just have to eat natural whole foods Our bodies should be thought of as holistic and I think the same is true for foods. You can't take out the ingredients of an orange or a blueberry, and isolate one and say well that's why these things keep you healthy! Just eat the damn orange and blueberry!! I think there are qualities in these things that have yet to even understood But yeah we really are sort-of on our own trying to figure this stuff out

1:17:55 If the only alternative that anyone's willing to consider is communism, well then I'll take capitalism. But a major flaw in our model is nobody can be 100% honest if it's something that conflicts with their income so anyone with a product to sell is trying to sell it and it all culminates in confusion across the board when all we want is to be healthy. And if the answer is plant a damn blueberry bush and eat its fruit I guess no one really profits from that outside of the nursery, so who's giving you that advice? Well, I hope you find shows like this useful. I wanted to break up the UFO high strangeness consciousness dream channeling talk a bit. I hope this did that! I had two other really creative shows planned but the guests had to reschedule So we'll see if they even happen

CHAPTER 19 / 19 Discussion

Listener Ratings, Cincinnati Meetup and Show Wrap-up

The host reviews recent listener ratings for guest Daniel Rekshan and announces upcoming HigherSide Chats meetups in London, Nashville, Denver, and Cincinnati. Special attention is given to the Cincinnati "Sinspiracy" meetup, which the host encourages locals to attend despite it not yet appearing on the official calendar. The episode concludes with a final jab at "Dark Pharma" and a reminder for listeners to stay vigilant and healthy.

cincinnati· meetup· daniel rekshan· enochian· podcast ratings

1:18:49 But just know that I'm aware we've been a little one note recently and i planned to get more diverse. But I gotta do the dance with those who actually show up! That said, as for the last show with Daniel Rekshan who I thought had some really interesting ideas well he gets a 4.3 from the plus people kinda low It is what it is, but I do like how willing he is to dive in headfirst and test things and explore stuff like the Enochian workings. He's got an inquenchable thirst for the mysteries! But apparently it wasn't everyone's cup of tea 4.3 isn't bad...but its a B And with so many A's and rarely a C Its not my favorite thing TO see but again it is what it is

1:19:39 All right, I've been yapping for a while now. Let's scope out the meetup calendar is Valentine's Day this is what I'm doing but February 17th you could be going to the monkey puzzle in London February 20th you could go to Monday Night Brewing and Nashville Tennessee on the 29th of February You could go to the Denver gets higher me up And also I got an email something that has not popped up on the calendar. I guess it hasn't been approved by our moderator for the meetup website, but the Cincinnati Meetup is coming back around. This is one that I've seen before. Sinspiracy rings a bell? I'm not sure how many they've had but more than one and the host of this event really wants

1:20:29 the event to pop up on the damn calendar so people can RSVP and know about it. So I'm telling you now, if you listen to higher side chats and your around Cincinnati the meetup is happening And he actually rented a room which we say on the website don't do that You don't need to spend any money or notify any venues usually a brewery courtyard is all you need Or quiet corner of coffee shop but still its nice gesture and I want people to know about that even if they're in the area. So all good stuff, make some new friends what else are you doing? But I'm getting out of here Shannon's books are very good and very large and thorough you won't be disappointed with any of them let her know you enjoyed her work if you did and take care out there! I've done my part your move Dark Pharma Faithfuls Pill Pushing Profiteers and Members of The Church Of Death Your Booking

1:21:28 Sometimes when I get down, I eat a bunch of corporate junk. But that makes you fat. Street. Off to face it! Wrong. Got an addiction to the digital technology Now and then I try to quit. See discipline is no fun. I'm disciplined. Don't have to forbid conspiracy in every one of them