Ryan Zimmerman | Pizzagate 2.0: International Child Trafficking & The Elite

00:05 Puppet masters almost surely have clearly made me something heavy. And until you've thoroughly tested every last course, just did you know the less you really do? That's true Dr. Seuss! Without TAT, could they lie and do us just a- Without TAT, the higher side chat show or would company

00:43 Alright, Hireside Chatters. The idea of the elite abusing children is a conspiracy staple as old as time from the Catholic Church to the Franklin cover-up it's a commonly held understanding that some very uncouth actions go on behind the curtain and that the rot is so deeply entrenched and these power players are so clearly above the law that we have to do our own investigations just to form any type of understanding on the issue And in a world full of propaganda, hidden agendas and well-crafted psychological operations against the populace it's always good to be cautious but if history is any indication we also shouldn't be surprised when we do get a glimpse into the darkness only to have the mainstream quickly work to contain it pulling out all the dirty tricks they've been crafted to master for just such a situation.

01:28 Well, as we get deeper into the digital age and the old rich elite get older and more technologically out of touch it's my contention that we're in a very unique window of time where their deepest darkest secrets are more at risk than ever. And the exposure of Pizzagate is the perfect example of what can happen in this unique and unprecedented era Which brings me to today's guest, Ryan Zemmerman the owner administrator and chief editor of the Pizzagate wiki one of the premier places for detailed information into the ongoing investigation of child trafficking and abuse among the elite class. Ryan knows full well that we've heard the pizzagate 101 here on The Higher Side Chats but he's here to give us the latest updates in detail some connections that researchers have found in the latest stages of the investigation

02:11 that fill in missing pieces of the puzzle and expose the true scope of this international nightmare. Ryan, my man welcome to The Higher Side! Thank you it's an honor my man yeah it's great to have you here I really commend the work that you're doing because there is no profit in running something like The Pizzagate Wiki and a lot of risk so when just getting by on this life is hard enough to see a person running something like this on the side just because it needs to be done That's seriously respectable, man. And that's probably where we should start so let me ask you how did this unfold for you? How did you end up going from just a guy hearing about the scandal to being really on the forefront of publicizing the investigation? So yeah I'm from Idaho pretty backwater place but i have a full-time job and a family but I listen in shows like this and

03:04 Actually was starting to be a move on investigator at the time but i started running into some issues with their organization in particular where they have. A lot of secrecy and there dealings i mean it's a great organization don't get me wrong but you couldn't exactly if you did find something you had to really keep it yourself and give it to achieve editor. Which item have at my disposal and so in general i found that i cannot for any sort of investigation no matter what the subject we really had to go out and do our own thing like what are doing here with the show people are really,

03:43 Talking about it and getting the word out actually started making a bigger impact so i was on reddit frequently where credit pretty much never posted anything. And once the pizza gate stuff started breaking blue my mind i'm definitely very scientifically minded fact based person we were saying primary documentation that we had never seen in our entire Like a lot of us tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists have never seen before in our lives really. You hear enough rumors and stuff you know? Yeah it's true! But they wrote this stuff, this was sent between people they go to these things

04:28 the facts became staggering and then once you started seeing the suppression effort it broke my heart. Basically when Reddit took down the subreddit there they took down Citizen Investigators as well a lesser known sub reddit at that time, an operation Berenstein which had a very similar concept and you saw them get totally washed away unheard of YouTube began suppressing it so almost within a few days i joined what was called the pizza gate review that was kinda differs wiki that really established on the subject. I mean i was just like a pretty small contributor there what interesting emails and information i could post but something happened there which kind of shocked me where

05:25 We started getting all kinds of weird spam and typical wiki ddos attack stuff that you would see from some like anyone can make an account there you don't have to verify email all kinds of stuff security holes everywhere so you saw it go down in the owner refused to contact any of us who were contributing at the time wasn't making sure there was backups He contacted me almost every day up until we started getting spammed. So once he stopped talking to me, I was like hey there's something wrong here how is it that everything is just getting shut down like let go? Like there's nothing here when the people writing the pages and who are certainly researching this subject know the facts lined up too many things are just out of whack here right and so I just kind of had to do my part

06:24 I've been a web developer all my life i mean certainly never ran a wiki before but i thought hey this might be my one chance to really step in and do something. Help people consider myself pretty objective i don't subscribe any political party like i'm broke as a joke hi, Kind of just live my life like everyone else, but I want to do something with it. I want to help people Yeah and I think just organizing the information that people have worked so hard to collect is an important task Like we should all be doing that

07:01 Absolutely, man. What a great little introduction there tangent sorry no no it's absolutely cool man I totally commend you for doing what you're doing and that is awesome And it does go to show that especially in the digital age one person can make a huge impact on something You know you don't need right a lot of money. You don't need a lot of influence you just build it and they'll come because the internet has for the moment seems to be fairly open as long as you're off the major controlled corporate sites. Yeah, and people who are afraid to say stuff and afraid to talk out. And especially with all the censorship and stuff just realize there is a huge community that's very similarly minded to you and is willing to talk and research these things You just got to kind of look for it sometimes It's not front page news. You're not going to go to Reddit anytime soon and find it

07:57 But it's out there. Right? There are people every day, yeah It's nuts you gotta dig a little bit but it's also easier than its ever been I can't imagine trying to do this in 1980 You know the containment would just be ridiculous but to get into the actual material of course they don't want to spend too much time on what we already know because there's so much new info that I want to get to I think we all know this saga starts with the WikiLeaks exposure of John Podesta's emails where a food-based code was being used quite often which matches up with codes the FBI claims refers to young kids, cheese pizza hot dogs walnut sauce etc. Right

08:40 From here, we learned about the creepy and well-connected party place Comet Ping Pong in Washington DC and its owner James Aliphantis. Then after combing through his Instagram we've seen many highly suspect comments and images that expose him as a pretty obvious freak kids with their arms bound strange chambers with no windows with the comment hashtag kill room these sorts of things We also found out Best of Pizza on the same block has a known pedophile symbol as its logo. So when you read between the lines, the picture definitely begins to form of the political elite trafficking and abusing children through this little network and hidden code. And I think that's pretty much the cliff notes to what most people know about Pizzagate at this point wouldn't you say?

09:26 Yeah, and it's because honestly that is the most well documented public example we have in this day and age. I mean we all know you can hear about Mark Devlin talks about it this kind of stuff has been happening forever even said in the intro its kinda as ancient as power itself creepily enough But this case is, it's one of the first times where outside of FOIA releases and controlled CIA dumps and FBI dumps as cool as those are like they're controlled and mostly redacted. This was raw uncensored craziness I mean even say as much as i know Wikileaks did not get their emails from Russia nor would it matter but that's what they said you can't

10:20 The lines match up. That's where these are the organizations they run. I mean, people connect to James Aliphantis for instance with Pegasus Museum. He indeed owns and runs that as much as for whatever strange reason he wants that secret but we know in like you said this digital age somehow we can find all this information totally for free just by digging breaking a little sweat right asking a few questions And you gotta be safe out there and don't harass anyone that's important. I haven't by all means i've had to harass anyone to do this but it's out there they have to have building records,

11:05 Bills have to get passed and certain individuals have to sign those, and certain companies have to disclose donations to campaigns. We can find enough on our own." Right if you look and that is what's so great about this, and you sent me several areas of new and more advanced research Let's start with the disappearance of Madeline McCann a lot of people know That this has been related even in the 101 stuff But let me also add in your email to me about this girl story. You write I

11:44 I feel that this page alone epitomizes exactly why we gather together on this subject. This case is completely and utterly strange, and includes everything from John Podesta being less than a third of a mile from Madeline the day she disappeared, suspect profiles suppressed by the family until they became public—and guess what? They look exactly like John and Tony—and even darker gene-trafficking subplot related to mysterious and historically mythic defects present in Madeline's eye. Interesting, man! Walk us through the details of this particular story, this Madeline case. Like I said it has every level of strangeness that someone could

12:27 Find worth researching or exploring or a few day however they want to do it just look into. But yeah start at in two thousand seven madeline mccann disappeared from our resort and try it out love ruse portugal really small richie kind of place where i guess only the elite sort of party yet which the mccann's were definitely friends with and she goes missing around May, I believe. May 2nd and from here it is known as the most publicized sort of missing child case that's happened especially in our recent age in the 21st century and the facts were amazing so researchers went like mad to find this wealthy family's kid they found 33 suspects were questioned

13:23 And no one ever really was found to truly fit the bill. We found now recently, all the way up in 2015 and 2016 amazingly we find that the family was actually deliberately suppressing the investigation which you have to wonder why? Like I would die for someone to find my kids like it would be like you do see these parents all the time out there looking in fields an stuff And you gotta wonder why they would worry about things like the profile image, which just happens to look like I said Tony and John Podesta. It's definitely debatable but quite coincidental because as it would turn out yeah they were staying at Clement Freud's resort a third of the mile away which is weird on that date specifically

14:17 And then kind of even a deeper bit on that in the wiki leaks emails to jump at us is email specifically you'll see it time gap during that. I wanna say they recorded his emails for like six years or they have no solid record for six years but during may second two thousand seven when she went missing you see a hole and this communications Suddenly when they resume back up i think sometime in june there's just a flood of like no reply sent errors. Just like a flood page about that you gotta wonder why these are happening well i mean i worked in websites of setup plenty of new accounts to leave you know work in this field before. Even from my experience tell you that's usually what happens when u have deleted an address and then reconfigured the new web mail address for that or web mailbox for that address should say

15:13 So i mean you gotta wonder why this guy is all the sun scrubbing his email and get new e-mail addresses at the state to stuff we haven't found out till way after the fact but. I mean, obviously this case is still unsolved. It's hugely important and if you want to go into the genetic stuff it gets really crazy but there is a little bit of everything in Madeline's case and I think it's worth all keeping in mind. Mm-hmm! I definitely want to get into the gene stuff but before we do something else that was interesting as you have a well defined and bullet pointed

15:51 timeline of this entire case and one that I liked, thought was interesting was in 2010 you say the McCann spoke with Ray Weier a pedophile expert who was on the guest list at Elm Guesthouse and notorious pedophile brothel said that he knew Madeline had been abducted by a pedophile network. That is interesting. And then apparently the parents released a plea to then Prime Minister David Cameron when the Portuguese police were the ones who shut down the inquiry, and a year later they actually smashed a trafficking ring that was snatching young women up and underage girls in Portugal so it's interesting like in 2010 the Portuguese police are trying to shut down an inquiry a year later like they're like wow we gotta do something

16:44 Oh man 2010 is a crazy year if you keep looking like it's just weirdness all around but yet particularly the mccanns they seem to know a lot. They seem really interested in keeping details away from people there was i got breaking news today as well that there was a successful lawsuit where they tried to An investigator wrote a book on them saying they were suppressing the investigation, they tried to sue him for defamation or something like that. That was liable or the book was fake but it was upheld in court so I mean obviously the justice there thought they're up to something and their research was valid. It seems the case is pretty strong and you gotta wonder why then would you willingly sort of let your kid be missing? What importance is that to you?"

17:36 And you know, you get into a lot of questions there. Yeah it's definitely interesting all around but that particular little chapter I thought was worth the mention but i do have to know more about this gene trafficking subplot what is this about? Okay yeah right so I mean you've been on vote you've seen the post people are all in rage about Really bizarre. I mean, I got to admit there is definitely validity this the prevalence of coloboma as it's called this Defective the iris were sort of like not formed correctly So you get like a hole more or less looks like your pupil is I mean yeah, definitely just disfigured and people like that can live healthily and Be just fine

18:32 Madeline mccann added the parents that was one of the details that they strangely enough kept away from investigators. What you think that such a unique defect would then have brought them closer to find like that's a great profile on a missing child something that you need so, People started looking more into Koloboma. What does that mean? What does it have to do with things? I guess there was some Norse Viking warlord or something who had it in his eye, and it was historically known as Snake-in-the-Eye. So on Nordic peoples that's what it's called.

19:15 And he claimed it gave him, like it was some relation between him and Ouroboros I would believe. Yeah the Ouroboros is that symbol of a snake eating its own tail? Yeah Fenrir I guess is the actual wolf god but you know what I'm saying the beast devours the world at the end So there's this guy Koloboma does have some significance to the elite I guess Is where you could trace that Right, so I wanted to read some comments from Vote which you have on your wiki as well that give better details about this condition. So it says this condition has been called snake in the eye and it affects several genes in the eye called Pax genes and it goes on to say that the PAX6 gene is significant because it is the piece that connects our ocular system to the pineal gland

20:06 Also, many of James Aliphantis' Instagram pictures of kids have the comment hashtag KarrisJames. Yeah! Now it gets a little weirder I googled Karris guess what comes up as the first result? Congenital Anomaly Register and Information Service or Karris for short yeah It seems like he's tagging children with congenital anomalies. They all have the coloboma eyes Now the reason Madeline's eyes keep changing is because she was possibly cloned and the public sympathy garnered Subconsciously ushers in acceptance for the practice. Yeah Yes, indeed they are looking for particular genetics to clone They want Aryan and not in a sense of blonde hair blue eyes it

20:51 It has more to do with neoteny, which is when the physiological development of something is slowed or delayed and also a particular bloodline which harbors congenital mutations within the PAX gene such as the Ouroboros I. Hence they pick children with this distinction because it must have something to do with a deeper agenda." Jesus man! This could be a pretty important piece of the puzzle. I mean yeah you gotta wonder why it's so nondescript you think and i received what would have relation to and select yet to this day i'm. I admit i'm skeptical of its connection that things but you have to admit it's crazy how many times these kids with that pop up in these pictures in a short period of time

21:41 The wiki's gone through and disproven that a lot of the children could have been like exactly the same child because of dates and times and what not but i can't then argue against the cloning subplot because. As much as I think that's pretty high strangeness, a lot of these kids have remarkably the same feature. It'll even appear in the same eye and with the same colors and stuff to where when you start to mathematically deduce it all, the probability of rounding up these kids or finding all these persons like that or having them consolidated

22:22 1% sort of families is mind-blowing. Yeah, man I mean you got to wonder then why that's so important to people? I guess if there is something there It's definitely being researched though right I mean the connection or the idea of a connection To an Aryan bloodline I just think is super provocative and The idea that these packs genes are involved in that the pack six gene is what's supposed to be related to the pineal gland which just also gets into altered realms and like MK Ultra kind of stuff that they might have been doing in trying to find people that have a susceptibility to going into those realms. It could get very weird at that point but I like exploring it, I mean obviously I don't want kids to be hurt

23:11 But this is an angle that is pretty fascinating. Yeah, I mean and then again it's like when you try to as much as you want to be rational and then say dismiss it the probability starts to stare you in the face and you're like but why? Why? Why is all this coming together Exactly and another bullet point I had written here is that Madeline McCann was actually born via IV fertilization in vitro fertilization and That might be insignificant, but it also could be interesting from the perspective of genetic engineering Yeah Or that her parents were in on this plot from the very beginning of this child's birth weird stuff But it could tie into that

23:56 Right. I mean, and I definitely think we're at the stage in medical advancement where if you have the resources you can get certain traits Yeah You know Especially at that stage in vitro like you said that I mean That's what it's ideal for having by all means is certainly in the realm of possibility It's not that strange believe it or not So, okay if we wanted to move on from there I also wanted to talk about what is probably the biggest added piece of the Pizzagate saga and that is what you referred to in your email as the new private military and its role in Pizzagate. To set the stage let me read from your email again

24:39 Through exhaustive research, we have found incredibly compelling connections between major private military corporations and agendas of epic proportions. Our DynCorp page is the most visited and easily the most controversial page on the entire wiki and itself was the target of a large and sophisticated cyber attack which may be traceable to DynCorp themselves We've proven Jeffrey Epstein stole or was authorized to use the State Department DynCorp aircraft's tail number for a single mysterious flight. We have also solidly connected DynCorp to sex trafficking and abuse of minors in at least three other countries, among the worst being in Bosnia." So this is getting intense man! What can you tell us about DynCorp and their involvement specifically? Okay so yeah I mean even since I wrote that email to you with the amount of material it covered

25:34 is just staggering but basically you'll see dying core and strap for as well as others represent this trend where the military. Since the end of like where they could keep things totally classified have since privatized a lot of their industries and sort of efforts. And basically what that has done is shielded them from any sort of investigation further, and has even made that stuff more secret now we see special access projects stuff like that where these private companies have kept things out of the hands of even the president I mean none of us have a lot of access to any of what private companies do

26:21 And as it turns out, they run a remarkable amount of our military industrial machine. I don't know if you've seen the DynCorp page but i have statistics at the top that's pretty incredible like they maintain 80% of NASA's fleet and they are agents in securing presidents overseas like the president of Afghanistan is personally protected by DynCorp And stuff like that. These are big time guys, they've been around even lesser known fact they've been around since nineteen forty six oddly enough they were involved in the iran contra scandal they literally were jesus i mean that private contractors who are involved and distribution of arms stay flew planes back then so

27:10 That was sort of their involvement in it. But I mean, just this company who has had notable support from the federal government and especially the Clintons but not just the Clinton's but the government for whatever reason loves these guys keeps giving them contracts gives them more money they ask for more money every year and fail to meet their goals fail to make progress can get accused of trafficking, get caught in trafficking scandals. And now we found like five countries I think as opposed to three that I sent you and countless more in terms of human rights and various violations but they just keep raking in the money. Can you maybe break down some other agenda by country or what are they doing in a couple of these countries?

28:02 Probably the most known case we have was Bosnia in the 1990s. So when President Bill Clinton was running the United States and basically you had two completely independent members of their company who worked there, who began to find Catherine Belokovich I believe and... The other name escapes me but it's definitely on our site because it was amazing They both found different employees who were buying and selling children.

28:39 Not just having sex with them, but bragging about it with employees. And even like selling... They get so brazen as to sell the videos of it too to the populace. Wow! As sort of a form of psychological control because it turns out DynCorp especially between the 90s and early 2000's had diplomatic immunity which is crazy in a lot of these countries So they couldn't be prosecuted even if they were caught, which is just nuts. But that's why they would commit these acts, be brazen about it didn't really have any shame but two particular whistleblowers just had enough stood up said something about it got fired over it successfully counter sued which again when you successfully get something over like that in court I mean obviously the judge standing with

29:35 Catherine below could be something happen there and the evidence is staggering and it's a pattern of behavior which exists far past bosnia so i mean another well publicized case of dying course specifically this also will involve the clintons directly. But the kunduz dancing boy case i am probably a lot of people heard about this in the news and various forms mm hmm mm hmm pretty well publicize run with some dark Dark implications. Yeah, because I mean the public story there the thing everyone was told to be told a boy Was paid by? Dying Corps employees to dance for some Saudi Arabian diplomats in Afghanistan and he was dressed in a t-shirt and jeans and It pretty much was a tribal dance And that's how it went

30:28 But it turns out, through WikiLeaks and various other sources we found... I mean that story was straight up covered up. It directly involved DynCorp. They did more than just buy quote they purchased services from a child quote is like literally what's in there right but they also purchase drugs and crazy stuff like that were possibly given the boy drugs which is just beyond insane. And it does say specifically lap dances in one of the emails and the Afghan diplomat you'll see a we link a cable as well from WikiLeaks where he asks, he sends it to the State Department and he's like please don't reveal details on this it's dangerous people's lives could be at stake

31:16 And so especially certain details here where he names like the boy and the drugs. And yeah, huge, huge portions of this case were just overlooked and obviously no one was prosecuted which is mind boggling but that's a pattern of behavior Definitely, and these huge companies have so many subsidiaries it can be tough to get a handle on. But this was the tangent I thought was worth mentioning you say A lesser known DynCorp sister company known as DynPort vaccine company would also be involved in several scandals and controversies itself

31:53 For instance, in 2001 Dynport would be awarded a contract to produce an anthrax vaccine which they failed to complete. Yet early in 2002 the founder and CEO of Porton Downe, which is the port in Dynport would be convicted of selling anthrax to Saudi Arabia without consent from the Department of Defense Dynaport partner Baxter International was also involved in at least eight different scandals themselves, including contaminated vaccines and infecting patients with hepatitis C. I mean damn that seems pretty important right there man! Yes so into the genetic subplot who knows what these biomedical companies are doing with all this power and money?

32:40 just get more and more. And Cerberus Capital Management, who owned DynCorp also owned Talacris is what it was called a Bido medical research company which ripped people off for blood plasma and made over a billion-a-billion dollars scamming Mexicans out of blood plasma while they were owned by basically this Dine core or servers own dine core and this company at the same time so again it's like a sort of big string in pattern of behavior while we wanna look at the pizza restaurant and these facts that stick out to us is being really obvious. Just crazy there is a big underlying pattern industrialized pretty much this whole biomedical terror organization

33:33 More or less. I mean, because we could keep going on about Dynaport vaccination companies specifically but like you mentioned the anthrax thing ties into that and i mean that's a mystery that still unsolved no one knows who sent the anthrax to US federal employees but there is alot of good theories out there and this is my little input on that cause those are facts Like some these things you can't take away primary documentation thats whats best thing about it See at Dineport, I mean yeah we could go on for the medical stuff but they have a lot of sister companies which are involved in these sort of really shady – everything from orphanages.

34:17 to biomedical research in foreign countries, which I mean why is it? Why when they're being investigated for all kinds of things you know. Right But that's how the scheme works That's how they keep it secret and that's how they just keep the machine going right Right. And then there's another group you had talked about with me called Stratfor. Here, you say... You refer to Stratfor as the shadow CIA and you say they had several famous references to pizza related code words including the $65000 hot dogs email mentioned by me and David Seaman in that previous show

34:57 In addition to international criminal and spooky activity galore, their employees openly talked about pedophilia and one, Bayless Parsley is blatantly outed as being a pedophile in an email regarding the pedophile bust. President George Friedman has made comments about minors which even make his colleagues cringe for emphasis here's a quote from founder and president George Friedman Find a school and see the children leave at the end of the day. You'll want to schools where there is pushing and shoving, and where older brothers come to walk their sisters home. You are now where you should be! Look at their shoes, look at their cute little skirts, invite them into your taxi and give them a ride home then go back to their house every day to watch them yes watch their geopolitical little bodies excellent

35:46 And yeah that doesn't sound good man but let's get into some details about Stratford what more can be said. So yeah, Stratford has been talked about that shadow CIA thing isn't my quote was taken from bigger article i mean you don't have it in front of me right now but definitely they are an interesting organization ill find and wiki leaks is global intelligence files. Those are all strapped for emails and so from there we've been able to find quite a bit more interesting fun facts on sort of,

36:24 their internal operations what kind of spooky stuff they do what can i think it's a keep secret the fact that they know where you are than you would think. A lot of the detractors from my posts on Stratfor have just been like, they're desk jockeys. They're just in an office kind of people who paper push and make articles. And while that is half true I mean they seem to know... Like i don't know if you've seen a bit on Osama Bin Laden's body and stuff like that but that just put in context for me how they had just a bizarre level of security clearance

37:02 And knowledge of events that i think they're a little bit more than your average contracting company and the CIA definitely depends on them for a lot more than I think there is credit for. You can find in their emails are stephanie some weird stuff going on we got a little bit about sixty five thousand dollar pizza hot dogs as a good example which he's not allowed at the white house but also you get how to slice a single piece of pizza like what the hell was that That's a strap for email doesn't even make any sense whatsoever and i found also that they just kinda had a history of sort of using pizza as a code word almost jokingly around their company, first things unrelated to pizza gate so far is no but like the tested credit card pages under the pizza codename.

37:54 and used weird labels for their transaction reports from that site. One was called Pizza with Horses, and that was the list of paid subscribers more or less that went to that particular page and paid for it something to that degree I can't. But obviously they were using weird code words for quite a bit of time And so you gotta kind of wonder then why they have all this fascination with pizza and all these jokes about pizza. And for them it's a completely different word than it is for us, historically speaking even. Absolutely! Do you think there's more to say about Stratford before we move on or should go the next group? I mean really there are just a lot good emails and spooky stuff they do. I've contributed to our dot wiki leaks

38:47 and have posted some of the better WikiLeaks emails on there. But really in the end, we put our money... government puts a lot of money into some strange places is sort of the narrative there. And you gotta wonder why they just keep shoveling it out? They don't let it go! They just keep giving them more or they make more sister companies is the theme so far Sometimes when I hear about this stuff, it's just like man if we actually just used tax dollars for improving infrastructure and energy and just the simple things that our community needs. It's kind of crazy how little we'd actually have to pay but when companies like DynCorp and Stratford are actually...I think earlier there was a thing you say DynCorp lost $1 billion of State Department money and then they covered that up? Like this is pretty crazy!

39:42 There's even a case of them doing the accounting where the Department of Defense lost 2.3 trillion, so that's not on there yet but that's definitely something to look at like they are for a lot more money even I get mind-boggling and like i said That came after those previous scandals they were still then allowed to be accountants with the government these people do some shady shit and why would you just be allowed roam free, be half the military. Crazy stuff that just... Yeah it would be nice to see a house cleaning eventually but who knows?

40:20 Oh yeah, right. Wouldn't that be something? We're working on it! Yeah you are for sure So this brings us to the third group we wanted to highlight here and this is Deagle Here you write not only do people still debate whether or not they even exist though they have a website but The Pizzagate Wiki has undeniably proven that their intelligence is used by Stratfor and even brought to briefings for the President of the United States Almost nothing is known about the actual organization's activities, but this is published on their website and it was taken seriously by members of intelligence. Now this actually gave me chills man! This feels like a pretty serious bombshell and its very numbers heavy so people pay attention but this report says

41:08 United States of America projected changes from 2014 to 2025 with a profile for 2013 and another for 2025. It says, 2013 population 316 million forecast 2025 population 69 million A reduction of 247 million people Gross domestic product 2013, 17 trillion. Gross domestic product 2025 projection less than 1 trillion at 921 billion reduced by what almost 95% there? GDP per capita

41:49 2013, $52,000 GDP per capita 2025 13. Military budget 2013 729 billion military budget 2025 8 billion so these numbers are pretty scary man and they indicate some massive massive decline in US population and economic activity granted the conspiracy world is always kicking this can down the road but nevertheless it's pretty eerie man tell us more about Deagle what have you uncovered? Yeah so i mean it's one thing when a stand for people are like throwing that around but this company apparently is taken pretty seriously and those are mind boggling stats like that's not like some people got sick. I mean its nuts like its thats a huge shift we looked through the entire list of countries

42:39 that Deagle provides. And what's interesting you'll find is other countries don't have this problem, apparently whatever America is going to have the only other ones that do interestingly enough are the United Kingdom gets cut by pretty much the same percentages Japan and I believe Germany it is pretty close Wow! The whole European power block Yeah, but rest of the world does just fine so The deal is making a pretty stark claim there you know and we did find they are they have been at least in the past from what we can find i had been presidential briefings before. And they are frequently used by straffer so you gotta wonder that how do you know what day now

43:29 Those are, they don't really have sources for those claims. There's a big blurb on the bottom of their forecast site that tells you they're not... literally quote is we're not a death cult I believe. What? Yeah yeah straight up you'll see it in tiny pink text it's a huge portion on that page but it says we're not a death cult this wasn't meant to like bring hype or hysteria, but basically what'll happen is those populations in that industry will move. Which I don't know about you, but I didn't plan on moving to China in eight years or something. So what the fuck? You gotta want... how did they're- They don't really validate those claims but they are in touch with something and that just blew my mind Just... Right

44:21 247 million people are gonna die little can either just gonna move over to china right like what a sad go off to the farm as if that somehow get says it is the astic about it like oh great now this gonna be in some good sweet white all sign up thank you deal. What i think is great too is the people are investing in this company like they get big corporations find them and then For a forecast that they're gonna be cut in eight years? Like, that's not a very good thing to tell your shareholders. That we're all gonna die! Not at all. Everything you've ever known is not going to be there so obviously they are on the pulse of something some community we aren't Right... They are either highly accurate or really severely overpaid

45:09 Yeah, yeah. Who even knows? Because I guess they actually do manufacturing for aircraft parts so if they were that crazy i wouldn't want to put me in the air Right. Makes you wonder. Geez, man! So this kind of is a little nexus between DICOR, Stratfort and Deagle. Between these three organizations is there more to say about what they got going on? Is there More, obviously these big companies they layer things and sub-companies and front companies. It can be tough when you're talking about things they are doing in multiple third world nations but is there more that kind of surprised you or that you uncovered? You were like wow! That needs to be talked about. Yeah definitely between the three specifically I mean just came down how prevalent they are in government

46:05 The fact that they especially strapped for especially there use quite a bit by the united states government for intelligence and so these people are taken seriously. Buy people with clearances of pay grades way out of our dreams. And also from saying that kind of just how those three different entities worked you can get an idea for the bigger picture then like, The corporate takeover or sort of the growing corporate industrialized military machine that is now not just the factories and soldiers as in dying core but. Even the intelligence even the orders that are directives that are sent to their president are influenced by these private corporations so,

47:00 You start to look more and so maybe what they're related to patterns in bigger groups they may belong to and i mentioned earlier with like servers capital. And very tough capital you'll find a lot of these organizations have the same owners share the same executives And definitely it's like i have several military people who tell me and that's kind of a common thing when you retire from the military they just give you a private contracting job. So this order just pass these people around everyone shares in their same network friends and bill each other out one gets in trouble and especially keep things super secret for my eyes,

47:48 Baring it in such a way and we can't go for you Corporation anyway, you know Which is crazy right but even if you could like eat wiki leaks did publish everything on Stratford We still don't know Everything they're tied to so it's been a huge part of our research and finding out what they are tied to Remember a quote maybe from eric braverman the ceo of clinton foundation new. Try to whistle blow on them he said follow the money so we tried doing that when i came to their investors particularly executives is where we are focusing and read find like for instance,

48:36 especially when dying corp was owned by veritas there was a few other military companies one in particular that they own that even while i'm core what's what's being investigated by the government for all these claims. During that investigation very tossed just simply move operations to another company proceeded as is everything went on for them just like any other day it's kinda weird that you'll investigate the company Dying core, but our government's not smart enough to be like well who owns you like hey You know well what are they doing so I something about that's fishy. That's just kind of the way the beast works

49:20 Absolutely. And another bullet point I had here that directly ties to Hillary Clinton on the subject of following the money is that DynCorp's parent company, Cerberus Capital Management gave $40,000 to Hillary's campaign and that's a direct link and Cerberus Capital Management...I mean let's take a second to say what a name choice right? Yeah lets give them a bit Right and they deserve it. They really earned it's kinda great cuz the founder regrets the name. But honestly look at, we want to talk about manifestation that guy pretty much became that you'll be amazed what servers capital management does they own CBS? They own Google Maps like the GOI

50:14 hardware and software that goes into making google maps satellite imaging they do it have a lot to do with satellite imaging select these are the guys who are. Our perception of our own planet even you wanna find flat here go look for them there in the house They just own a staggering amount and you just think it's funny that individuals will get targeted and investigated, found with gross brazen criminal acts. And then we don't really look any further into that. You said Cerberus donated $40,000 to Hillary Clinton? But you think about it, kind of chump change to a trillion dollar company

50:58 But you wonder why it's why then the chump change even so I mean we haven't quite found all the links yet but you gotta wander than all these shell corporations that would have donated to her too or I mean Particularly maybe CBS is involvement, you know with helping her out. Um It's definitely a strange direct connection, but there is certainly more out there. It's just a huge web. Right and another part of that web I wanted to ask you about maybe don't know too much about it But I did a show fairly recently with Joseph Farrell who I really love and he talked about the promise software Oh yes Yes scandal thing that happened There was a connection in this little web to that promise software isn't there?

51:45 and a bigger connection than you might think. So actually, I reviewed the notes of this site when you told me what we were gonna talk about. I went back and looked at it just to make sure the whole Dining Court page was bulletproof with it. Thank you! And that part stuck out to me, and I looked more into that Pug Winokur little quote that's posted, and that is pretty mind-boggling Like they had a lot more to deal with dying core had a lot more to deal with promise. Then i believe a lot of us could get it right at four and even creepily enough they have more to do with artificial intelligence then we realize,

52:32 And like I said, they're even involved with satellite technologies and stuff like that. Parts of the Dying Core web are definitely part of the satellite community so you wonder... They have a huge surveillance network going on that's pretty privatized and crazy but it gets deep! They have about every channel there could be when you think about it It's a bit of a clean sweep Yeah, it's a lot. So another issue that always comes to mind in this sort of conversation is what's really being done about it? I mean you and I can talk we can expose some facts to other regular folks but of course We'd like to see it go beyond that David Seaman did tweet the other day that quote an investigation Is underway at the federal level yes, I can't and won't say much else on this

53:24 But what else are you seeing? Do you see any signs of a real investigation here?" i mean top down obviously not we have the clinton investigations being reopened anthony wiener investigation is being reopened so what were definitely seeing stuff like that the clinton global initiative shut down and a lot of the clinton foundation lost a ton of money period the new york times getting wrecked by their own hypocrisy but really in terms of Physical change, I think a lot of it's happening on the grassroots level. Bottom up. It ended up not being, at least to my knowledge, wholly related to the case but there have been individuals who reached out to me over this whole

54:12 vote and everything that were victims themselves. And this has deeply affected them, and they ended up... I know at least one who filed their own police report. And so I think because they finally got the courage to really be like hey we're all in this if i need support there's a community. So I think it has started a big shift in consciousness like that People are starting to maybe speak out more be less afraid i hope. The mainstream media and everything doesn't do a good job of that, making us terrified all the time. But I do feel like people are starting to really as individuals move towards this. The effort is 24-7 never stops there's always someone if I was need breaking news or someone there could be a handful of people I could hit up right now There were even people who wanted to live stream this so they can help me with any notes or anything but i'm like no

55:16 But there is a huge support network and people really trying to work on it. And maybe, I mean you're not going to see one day the whole federal government get investigated But we might get huge breakthroughs like contractor got shut down. Clinton Foundation, certain organizations get shut down that were huge hubs and networks of it And all this media and all the stuff about it too is even helping It's obviously directly affecting their wallets They're not getting as many investors And thats progress right there

55:54 I'm not so much a pessimist maybe i am too optimistic but i definitely think there's still momentum, there are still people trying and gripping compelling material to work on. Yeah, that's inspiring. And man, that pretty much does it for my line of questioning and the major topics that I know about that we plan to discuss but I like to make sure that we make a complete case when I have a guest here and we don't leave anything major on the table is there anything else more to say before we start wrapping it up? I mean in terms of gripping breakthroughs

56:35 I mean i told you about the mzm thing we're working on yeah. I'm starting to work with uh the wiki leaks research community so our dot wiki leaks org, so some of this piece of gate information is starting actually get taken fairly seriously and scrutinized in a serious way So yeah people just don't lose hope i think that's a big one reach out to us like. I take articles all the time i read every single message i get on my eight million platforms i'm on gab and there is handful of admins at the pizza gate wiki will help you too,

57:14 And don't stop trying be skeptical don't buy everything you see don't trust everyone is just throwing information up there but look into it yourself. I honestly don't be afraid my especially if your not doing anything illegal like ninety nine percent of us are simply reading stuff we found published elsewhere you know there's nothing wrong with talking about a wiki weeks email here and there right but, Be safe and yeah, reach out. We got Riot Chat, the Wiki, Vote like you said they're not the best platforms but if you need to get more secure there's always those too I mean there is a platform for everyone Well said man! I'm like a Gab too Right on

58:02 So I appreciate you being here, man. I know you represent quite a few anonymous independent researchers and I appreciate all of them so i do want to say thanks across the board and you guys are all doing some powerful work dealing with not only the dangers of this type of investigation but also the ridicule from fellow citizens who drink that official Kool-Aid It's a sandwich that really sucks to be in sometimes, but it's part of doing the right thing man. So I really do salute you for it real quick remind people where to stay updated on Pizzagate any tips on navigating the Pizzagate wiki or how to contact you or anything else that's important before we close the books out?

58:44 Yeah, so we're at HTTP pizza gate dot wiki. That's the only site I run currently so nobody claiming to be me Reach out to me a yeah rebel scum I try to keep my name the same between everything So folks can find me personally So if you go to like riot chats The Pizza Gate chats for instance will be on there If you go to our activism page on the wiki There'll be a huge list of different communities like github And such were collaborations are going on but that's also lying on that right there is definitely a few good chat alternatives we have been working with. That are little more secure like give a little more control to us as the users yeah and just keep trying reach out to me at rebel scum r e b l s k u m three three eight at proton mail dot com,

59:42 If you want to like send me any encrypted or stuff, you don't exactly want to be posting publicly. But I'm always listening so send me a line, send the Pizzagate wiki a line we'll always be there Right on. Well, Ryan you're a fucking God among men definitely stay safe I urge any listeners who enjoy similar podcasts to the higher side chats tell these other hosts that they need to get Ryan on! I do take stock in that idea that it's much safer to be all the way out there and there is kind of a window where investigators are still relatively unknown and that's kinda most dangerous place to be so

1:00:24 I don't know, just sending this show around even especially to other shows would be a great way. I think to help and make it have a serious impact but again you're the goddamn man thanks again and be careful out there pimp yeah thank you so much it was an honor You got it all right people how was that for going deep down the rabbit hole I think i said a few episodes ago, that I was going to get away from the pizzagate stuff until there was something new. But I definitely think this material qualifies. The genetic stuff, the DynCorp and Deagle stuff... That's alot of new information for me!

1:01:00 Again, big thanks to Ryan for putting himself out there and for building the Pizzagate wiki and keeping it alive. A lot of researchers are having problems in this area Ben Swan was a reporter who did a segment on Pizzagate went dark for about a week only To come back and alter the direction of his segments and delete a lot of his social media Dave David Seaman has been saying some pretty wild stuff and seems to be having periods of being off the grid here and there. He was talking about the elite getting adrenochrome highs off the blood of terrified victims, And that marijuana trichomes kind of work in a similar way but that the blood high is far more intense so that's interesting

1:01:40 That term adrenochrome is new to me, but definitely not the idea of the elite draining children of their blood or getting high on trauma. There's actually a lot of conspiracy researchers who have taken up the veganism or vegetarian mantle because they think that the factory farming industries are built around increasing that trauma and passing it on energetically the consumer. I've also heard people talk about kosher butchering, which is basically just letting an animal bleed out from a throat cut which maximizes its suffering—it's a slow gruesome process. It's not totally related to the idea of the elite getting high on traumatized

1:02:27 victim's blood, but there definitely seems to be some weird energy that can be transferred through increased trauma, increased torture. I don't know...I don't conclude that veganism or vegetarianism is the answer but i do see those people's point it's a worldview and position that I guess I respect? But it just ain't for me! I'm a meat guy But a lot seems to be happening in the world, right? I mean lots and lots of distractions being thrown at us. But if you stay focused there are some really deep depths that are reaching huge audiences lately Since recording this episode i keep hearing about pedo busts and walls closing in on them but i am skeptical of that stuff we've heard that before We might see a couple of fall guys but to really flush out this entire network...I do think thats asking alot

1:03:20 that gets into that, oh they're coming to save us if we just keep waiting idea that I'm always very cautious to not get sucked into. Call me cynical. We'll just have to see though, one weird thing is that I've been getting a decent amount of critics saying that Pizzagate is a right-wing thing and I just don't see it that way! I see it as an elite establishment thing. I think the alt-right association is something that turns people off from digging deeper kind of like the Keck Pepe thing another topic that I didn't really see as being about the alt-right or in support of the alt right. It's about magic and it's an exploration of chaos magic, of meme magic but either way last week show was about owls because everything is so highly charged and polarized I'm getting a little fatigue when it comes to topics that touch on things being talked about nonstop in the news cycle

1:04:16 Even if we are looking at it from different angles, just some of those buzzwords each one is like a right cross to my energy level sometimes. So I'm sure there are some listeners that feel that same way and probably would appreciate some more off-the-beaten path topics And i'm just trying to say that I hear ya As an audience grows, it's a tough thing to thread a needle that everyone is happy with. But I just go with my gut You've trusted me X amount of years So let's stick together and keep doing this thing So i guess im gonna be trying to hop back and forth between the worlds in the next month or so Definitely got some good stuff coming that you're really going to love