Richard C. Hoagland | UFO Shoot-downs, NASA Rituals, & Moon Ruins Confirmed

00:04 Alright people, I'm gonna make this quick but for the next six weeks or so starting February 1st. I'm putting all my show outlines up for auction I've mentioned before that i have a very strict routine for preparing for and recording THC episodes, and part of that process 95% of the time going back many years has been waking up early on the days i record and compiling my notes into a roughly 4-6 page outline that i print out and conduct interviews from as a template. I write in the margins, cross stuff out as we go along and jot things down that I don't want to forget. And usually have a good deal of material in these outlines that never even makes it to air. When a show is done, put a little staple up in the corner and throw them into filing cabinets. Well its no secret im trying to move and what better time than try collect some extra cash and offload a box of stuff I've been storing...that I dont need!

01:01 So, I'm signing, listing and auctioning off all the outlines I have to any listeners who might be interested in that kind of thing. Each one is totally unique with its own markings, coffee stains, beer spills, printing imperfections, typos and maybe even doodles in some cases...that were never really supposed to be seen by anyone else but…I guess that's no big deal I know, personally, I've bought signed scripts before and some of my most prized possessions are band set lists I nabbed at the end of concerts. So maybe this is something like that for podcasts? If you're into it they will be listed on eBay.com Yeah, I know! ebay.com slash USR slash higher side chats

01:45 The link is at the top of the show notes as well, but it's ebay.com slash usr slash higher side chats and of course I'll post links across all social media dystopias i have an unfortunate presence in Again, the first batch will go up February 1st and be listed for 10 days And I'm going to continue putting new batches when and where time permits and I hope to have the whole thing completed in about 6-8 weeks or so. I guess i'm just out when im out, but if there's a specific one you might want keep dipping into see what has been added. There is a good chance that I haven't gotten it listed yet and a real chance that I don't even have for one reason or another. But I do have most so just keep an eye out! Thanks in advance to anyone who picks up a little piece of THC history and contributes to the Carlwood Family Moving Fund

02:37 All right, and that said in more ways than one let's get this show on the road. Enjoy! The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan There is clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man Until we've thoroughly tested every last closed chested view Find the more you think you know unless you really do

03:17 Serenity now higher side chatters from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood And it seems as if we're in a world of smoke and mirrors, A seven-layer cake of lies and enduring a never ending string of psyops. Where before we can even get to the truth of one thing We're hammered over the head with three more! A suspicious string of train derailments and a toxic cloud hovering over some of America's most important farmland

04:07 Chinese spy balloon drama unknown objects shot down over Canada, Alaska and Michigan at a minimum tic-tac crafts over Pennsylvania being covered on mainstream news Senator John Kennedy telling the American people to lock their doors tonight after a backstage UFO briefing. Economic upheaval, financial shakiness and geopolitical tensions being intentionally pushed to a breaking point It's hard to know what is true or even stay focused on a single thread in this dense and snug conspiratorial cardigan But right in the middle of all the Capstone Cabal's controlled chaos has landed an opportunity I've been waiting for since I was 16. And that is talking to the legendary Richard C. Hoagland!

04:50 Richard has always been a coast-to-coast mainstay and a major influence on me in the days of the much smaller world of pre-internet conspiratorial talk radio. He is a former Space Science Museum curator, a former NASA consultant and during the Apollo missions he was the scientific advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News. Richard is also the founder and principal investigator of the Enterprise mission where for over 20 years He has been leading a scientific team in an independent analysis of possible intelligently designed artifacts on Mars, as well as sophisticated glass structures on the Moon. He popularized The Face On Mars continues to host The Other Side Of Midnight and co-authored a bona fide conspiracy classic with Dark Mission The Secret History Of NASA

05:35 I'm certainly psyched for this one, so let's do the damn thing. NASA's esoteric undercurrent exposer space conspiracy staple and captain of the Enterprise mission Richard C. Hoagland welcome to The Higher Side! Oh well thank you Greg that was a wonderful interview i'll talk to you next time Good grief! Hey, it's great to be with you. Absolutely yes it's an honor Richard and the timing couldn't have been better I've actually been out of town for an event and it just so happened to be one of the craziest weeks ever And who better to talk to when across all the major mainstream news networks we're hearing about a strange string of objects being shot down

06:14 It's certainly no small thing for military jets to be shooting things down in American airspace. It's also not normal for them to shoot things down that they don't have a lot of intel on, and I'm not sure if this is just a PSYOP news story to distract us from other things or if these are truly controlled crafts being shot down over the last few days But the pendulum of the public's attention has certainly been swinging into your territory lately. So I got to kick this off by asking what the hell is going on out there, Richard? Well, I've been looking at this for a very long time as you know And many decades ago, I kind of eschewed the whole idea of UFOs because I found way back in my museum days in the 1960's that it was a morass of disinformation, misinformation, distraction outright lies cover-ups. It was impossible to get any semblance of truth

07:12 Which is why, you know many years later I kind of inadvertently backed into the whole idea of extraterrestrial archaeology. Which of course is the face on Mars what's at Cydonia? What's on the moon? What's in the rest of the solar system because ruins and artifacts stand still And someday when we're out there with enough manpower and woman power to actually land and find the library. we're going to uncover an extraordinary ancient tapestry of who we are and were in the solar system. And that data cannot really be spun by the psyops folks, or the deep state, and all the people who've been trying so assiduously to keep us in the dark kind of like mushrooms you know what they feed them for decade after decade after decade. So in that context given that we have this extraordinary

08:11 amazing breakthrough in ruins on the moon, which I want to spend the bulk of our time if we can talking about. This sudden preoccupation with Chinese balloons and shooting things down it makes zero sense from any military or political perspective because it's almost like shoot first and ask questions later And now, you know we shot down Norad the North American Air Defense Command which is our joint air defense with Canada. We've shot these things down and nobody can find them! Now you can't tell me with F-22s or GPS accurate to as a colleague of mine said the last night, you know, to the width of a playing card

09:01 that we didn't GPS track where the pieces fell and we couldn't send a team in with helicopters with you know proper gear for arctic weather and find the pieces in a week, a whole week. Come on. Right, right and I just saw a headline where they said that oh well it's not extraterrestrial it's probably just research or something attached to a corporation It's like okay so you're just shooting down Boeing stuff or Lockheed Martin stuff? I was gonna say aren't there legalities involved why hasn't any corporation or private research group

09:41 You know made news to the high heavens like you shot down our private enterprise equipment without even compensation and if it was a private research group or corporation whatever. No you're not gonna do this without telemetry and when on your board suddenly lights go dark, You're going to know, oops. That was the one they took out so your next phone call is to your attorney and the phone calls after that are to the White House. What the hell are you doing? Because I don't know ... Greg how do we launch anything in this country without going through the FAA? Wouldn't this be incredibly dangerous and illegal

10:26 Having all this stuff floating around at altitudes of jetliners and civil aviation and all that, that was the cover story for shooting these three things down. They were between 40,000 and 20,000 feet. That was the last octagonal object over Lake Huron. Well if this has been going on and we haven't noticed it I mean, remember a few years ago like year or two ago there was all this falter all around the LA airport sightings from incoming airliners of a guy flying with a backpack around L.A.X.? Yeah yeah. Remember that? Mm-hmm Whatever happened to that? Did they shoot him down? No! And it was an incredible danger to approaching airplanes landing in L.A.X., or taking off

11:16 No nothing about this story or stories seems to hang together and so i'm devoting this coming saturday night which is the eighteenth two three hours of. The other side of midnight trying to delve into with some very interesting people who been involved in the whole ufo you a p, disclosure process for decades. I'm going to try to get to the bottom of some of the stuff from inside that we're not being told, I think that Senator Kennedy no relation of course from Louisiana is kind of between the lines trying to tell us the truth in a tongue-in-cheek kind of way

11:58 Because look if we're dealing with real aliens locking your door doesn't mean a damn thing. All right Haven't you ever seen Star Trek? Don't you know that beaming down and beaming up come on, right But if he's trying without breaking the letter of the law to give people a heads-up That what they're telling us on the inside is not what they're telling you on the outside I use the term an Emily Dickinson approach. Remember Emily Dickinson, the 19th century poet? And one of her great lines was tell all the truth but tell it slant we're getting a lot of slants stuff these days

12:41 Yes, yes. Very slanted like you say they are treating us like mushrooms that keep us in the dark and feed us a lot of BS and there just seems to be a different set of rules for someone out there than they have for us And just before we started Like it is a great opportunity with all this going on to be able to talk to you now But it's also bittersweet because we're in the middle of the story and it's so new that We're gonna get a lot more information I would assume between the time of recording this and it going out to the world. So who knows exactly what's relevant, but Biden just spoke before we started recording and you were gonna say something about what Biden had to say which I didn't get to check out because I was preparing but also you mentioned you think we might be in the end game elaborate on a little that if he could well the end game I defined as the cover up which goes back at least 70 years plus two Roswell

13:35 But it goes back a whole lot further, I believe in terms of human interaction with extraterrestrials. And by that, I do not mean aliens you know let me define some terms here to me aliens are folks out there who are not genetically related all right? You couldn't marry them and have kids that kind of thing ETs can cover both aliens and family what do i mean by family Well if the human species is a lot older than we've been told it is, and human civilization in various forms is an incredibly lot older than we've been given by academia. I'm talking you know the canonical model for civilization as cities in Sumer 6,000 years ago

14:26 Well, there is credible evidence all over this planet and now based on our work looking at other planets that humans have been a high technology species in this solar system for tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years. If not per chance millions of years And we won't know those numbers until we get what's called ground truth. But, we're seeing in the NASA data and in the Chinese data and the Japanese data and the Russian data all these missions that have fanned out from Earth all over the solar system were looking at ruins on almost every object where we've got significant high resolution imagery

15:12 And it's fascinating because the images are there, the data is there. But as long as no agency officially announces what's on the photographs, it becomes just internet rumor—you know a million YouTube videos people making outrageous claims and it's just noise and not many people in the mainstream are really paying attention So I've been trying to do it by the book. I put together a very interesting multidisciplinary team, they're all over the world we connect with Skype, we connect with email, we send data back and forth images analyses content all that and now i've got because Art made this horrible suggestion you know years ago why don't you have your own show?

16:01 And I was dumb enough to take him up on the offer. So now you know what? Almost 10 years later, I've got this show The Other Side of Midnight which airs live on weekends Saturday and Sunday night at 9pm Pacific And then we replay shows, we have a club where you can join an archive for a nominal 10 bucks a month. Now it's over 1,000 hours of interviews with all kinds of people that I've done on all kinds of subjects but in the last year or two it has been narrowing down more and more on this continuing enterprise research

16:43 which is not are we alone, because of course we're not. But why have they been lying to us about who's out there and who's been interacting with us in terms of this extended human ET family? Which brings us to what's going on right now. Back in the 1940s I don't know whether you've done a lot of research into UFOs, I presume you have. Here and there yeah! Yeah remember the Army Air Corps started shooting things down And they set up recovery teams to go and pick up the pieces and the crashed disks. Then Roswell, you know, the incredibly interesting rumors about ET humanoids and all that, medical experiments, medical analyses, autopsies, all that? Well, the one truth that seemed to come out of that era is do not under no circumstances shoot first and ask questions later

17:42 Why? Well, it's kind of like that Jim Croce song. You know don't tug on Superman's cape. Don't spit into the wind. Don't pull on the mask of the old Lone Ranger etc. So in the last week or two weeks now we've shot down three as The White House termed them unidentified flying objects Who in their right mind in the military with what happened in twenty fourteen with the tech tax and all of the video and the pilot reports of extraordinary technology which can defy gravity, and migrate literally beam from the stratosphere to the ocean surface in micro seconds.

18:28 Who in their right mind would authorize shooting down three objects with Sidewinder missiles if you weren't absolutely convinced that it was totally benign and you were not going to be attacked, counterattacked? In other words, you wouldn't inadvertently start an interplanetary war. Yeah, you'd think the stakes would be pretty high. So if we're doing that then you've got to ask the next little question well why are we doing that and why are we doing it so visibly? And why did the head of NORAD say the other day on the record remember this is not a somebody deep in the rank this is the general-in-charge of North American air defense right he was asked the question

19:16 Could these be extraterrestrials or alien? And he said, I'm paraphrasing at this point we cannot rule out anything including an E.T answer. It's so crazy. They've been so tight lipped for so long, decades of silence now all the sudden they're totally transparent and the news is covering it across the country. It just doesn't make any sense. What if this is in the vernacular of how people approach this subject which is basically popular culture?

19:54 What if this is a controlled time release aspirin disclosure to set up the premise that, you know there's folks out there But they're a little dodgy and we can't trust them. And we need to have a military readiness." Look at this, we shot three of them down and nothing happened so our weapons are better than their weapon which is crap but the public in large if the right authority figures say it will believe it I mean look what happened after the NORAD general said that we can't rule out ETs

20:33 Suddenly, you have the White House coming out saying, oh they're definitely not extraterrestrial. Well how the hell do they know? They haven't recovered one little piece of anything! How do they know just because the guys didn't shoot back and incinerate our F-22s and F-16s?! This really reminds me of what happened in the 1950's in like 1952—remember that incident Where for like a couple of weeks over the nation's capital, Washington DC. The capital itself we've got the film

21:10 UFOs appeared in restricted airspace. Yes, and the jets did not shoot them they chased them they discovered they had incredible technological capabilities and then Truman came out and did the same thing this White House has done saying nothing to see here move along move along it's just what do they call it temperature inversions doing weird things to the radar. Yeah, yeah and it's also really odd to me that Roswell had this big flying saucer slash weather balloon confusion and now it's a very similar story are they alien crafts or balloons? It doesn't even seem easy to confuse those two things Well but see this is playing out against the backdrop of what began in 2017

22:00 which was the official story in The New York Times, ushering in this modern era of creeping disclosure where The New York Times published the stories of the pilots. The stories of the radar operators other sailors on the battle group around the USS Nimitz and then a similar battle group you know around Teddy Roosevelt in the Atlantic maneuvers being observed by so-called tic tacs, objects about the size of a small car that kind of remind anybody of anything recently. That were zipping around at speeds and maneuvering that made our F18's and F16's look like absolute primitive paintballs in scotch tape and bailing wire. And they obviously were high tech

22:53 After that, through a progression of maneuvers in Washington the Pentagon has set up now this official all anomaly office. NASA has set up a separate study group to look into unidentified aerial phenomenon staffed by a whole bunch of you know we used to call them eggheads including one former astronaut who was the brother of the astronaut who is the senator from Arizona, Mark Kelly. And this week, just two days ago the White House suddenly announces they have brought the UFO problem into the White House officially under the National Security Council and they're setting up an interagency task force to basically define the rules both domestically and internationally globally for what we do about

23:56 Unidentified objects flying in our skies when to shoot one down cost half a million bucks for each sidewinder Yes, and then you can't find the pieces right? Right. And I'm just curious What are your thoughts on the researchers who say that the whole framing of this is completely off that it shouldn't be in A military context It shouldn't be in a space alien context or even anything physical that maybe what we're really dealing with is some kind of angelic or spiritual type of presence, maybe from a higher dimensional plane that has really been with man since the beginning. And this whole framing in the modern era is just completely off." Well, that's a valid perspective because it's an open-ended science

24:47 But, you know, it's like the old Maxim of the West. I'm here in New Mexico, you know, the heart of Roy Rogers and hop along Cassidy and the Lone Ranger. You want to not shoot first but keep your powder dry? You start from 3D. In other words, you ask yourself what angel show up on radar? I don't think so. other world your hyper dimensional realm to this which is what i prefer i think it's a lot more up close and personal the society wide appearance of things that show up on radar, can you would tend to indicate physical objects three d objects with very extraordinary physics flight characteristics like the ability to counteract gravity.

25:39 And I was very amused when Secretary Austin said last night in a very long interview, which is going to show up next week on MSNBC. He said our radars were all tuned and what he means is the computers not the radar's because the computers are used to filter just like you can filter in your computer or looking at certain items and rejecting everything else well if NORAD had looked that everything they would be inundated by noise So you filter for the things that are expected. What I don't buy is that after the whole Tic Tac thing, with the U.S. Navy with two battle groups on both oceans—west and east—why we were not looking for things that can hover against gravity without moving at all?

26:31 That would seem to have been a logical national defense posture. So the idea that after the Chinese balloon, we're suddenly shooting down things that we never knew were there before—I don't buy it for an instant and I go back to Senator Kennedy's no relations comments which is what you would do if you're trying to give people a heads up in the classified briefing frame that this is not exactly what they're telling you, and the lock your doors was metaphorical. In other words we're dealing even at the official level with what they think to be when they're telling each other the truth unknowns and unknowns that at the moment are not shooting back why we would shoot three objects down

27:22 and have zero knowledge of where they came from, what their capabilities were, what they were doing. I mean militarily it makes no sense at all against the backdrop of the whole Tic Tac phenomenon. And remember the Pentagon has said officially those are real videos, those are real incidents and there's a whole office now set up with congressional oversight which just published A report a few weeks ago saying that they've been a whole, you know several hundred new objects discovered in the last year.

27:58 Well, how? Is it people out there with magnifying glasses. I mean the Pentagon says we didn't notice these things were being picked up that came to us through the intelligence community well how did the intelligence community find out if they aren't using military sensors who's not telling in other words this is a concatenation of lies and half truths and misstatements designed to confuse not to elucidate And it means that the folks on the inside are probably as puzzled and nervous as the folks on the outside. Let me give you one possible scenario that might make sense, we've been looking at extraterrestrial visitations to this planet or extra dimensional—I'll open the filter for that—for hundreds if not thousands of years. Yes That's on the record. You just have to look at the right data okay?

28:56 What if recently, in the last year or so or maybe in the last month or so a new player showed up and we don't know what to do but there are indications that the player might be hostile. So were shooting first and asking questions later in a stupid terrestrial limited technology preventive way because that's the way certain military minds are functioning, not thinking big enough or long range enough to realize you do not violate the Jim Croce song. Yeah that's definitely a possible scenario and it does seem like we're just in the first few chapters of a larger story and time will tell but I definitely had to kick this off with getting your thoughts but

29:47 As you had mentioned to me, we are seeing a lot of things going on that fit into your wheelhouse. You mentioned new developments with structures on the moon. What's the latest in terms of those things? Well let me ask this... Are you sitting down? I am! Okay, We have absolute 100% confirmation of my decades old model of extraordinary glass structures on the moon. And we have been doing programs at the other side and midnight for the last several months,

30:28 sometimes Saturday and Sunday, and sometimes I'll spin off and do something else on a Saturday. Then we'll come back to the theme on Sunday programs with the imagery and experts and detailed conversation speculation analysis and all that. Let me tell you what's kicked off this incredible stunning new era the South Korean unmanned mission to the moon, which left Earth for the moon last summer. The South Koreans have sent a 1500 pound unmanned robotic spacecraft on a very long month-long energy and fuel saving journey so it launched successfully last August

31:18 but it didn't get to the Moon, into orbit around the Moon until December. And that's because with computers now you can pick a trajectory which is just slightly under escape velocity meaning if the spacecraft kept going out and out and out like a stone thrown into the sky it would eventually stop and return to earth and crash into the earth surface at very high speed. But it saves enormous amount of fuel because what you do is you aim it in a direction that before it can stop, then fall back to Earth, it encounters the moon which of course is orbiting within the Earth's gravitational influence

32:08 And there's a technical term for these trajectories. They were found by computer geniuses at KPL many decades ago, they're very low energy transfer trajectories that mean that if you launch something from Earth to the Moon to go into orbit instead of taking like three days like Apollo did it takes four months But you get there and there's a wonderful diagram showing the loops of the orbit through space and how to sign on the moon or affecting trajectory. And what you do is, you wind up almost at standstill in space relative to the moon which means that a short rocket burn with minimum fuel can be used to place you into a safe

32:56 permanent orbit around the moon. So during this transit, during this four month long transit from Earth to Moon by the South Korean mission which is called Danuri, D-A-N-U-R-I you can look it up Google It's made up of two Korean words meaning enjoy moon Enjoy Moon The South Koreans have a wonderful sense of humor. Because why are they enjoying the moon? Because of what they're confirming that's on it, which is ancient ET ruins as far as the eye can see! Now what's really weird you know going back to my Emily Dickinson poem tell all the truth but tell it slant, the way I got onto this is that obviously the South Koreans

33:52 Are you partnership with nasa they actually reserved a space on the unmanned spacecraft going to the moon. For an experiment dedicated to the future upcoming human missions of the nasa artemis program, Remember a few months ago we sent an unmanned Artemis mission in orbit around the moon for 26 days and everything worked, and we got stunning imagery. And it came back and splashed down and spacecraft was recovered and there's too much data now being analyzed. The next flight will be a human flight with American astronauts four of them

34:31 including a woman, and they're going to go into low orbit around the moon for several days and then return. And then that'll take place sometime probably toward the end of 2024. In 2025 they're planning their first landing on the moon with NASA astronauts since Project Apollo in this new Project Artemis. Artemis was the sister of Apollo in terms of the Greek pantheon of ancient gods, okay? All very elegant all very mythological all very symbolic all very Emily Dickinson and to do that they're actually sending in partnership with other nations these precursor unmanned missions to basically scout where on the moon they want a land

35:23 and what resources they will need in the way of orbital technology to help them land. And so, the South Korean mission, Dnuri is part of this unmanned flotilla of spacecraft which have been launched over the past year or so to basically gather reconnaissance information about the lunar south pole which is there somewhere there where the Artemis mission in 2024, the manned or human mission will set American astronauts down on the surface in a wait for it Elon Musk lander because NASA gave Musk

36:06 the sole source contract to develop the 21st century equivalent of the lunar module of Apollo, which is going to be obviously a modification of his Starship. Which is now set in Texas for an unmanned launch of the first full up Starship—the biggest most powerful rocket ever launched from anywhere on Earth—the Big F Rocket as they call it And it will launch sometime probably in March into Earth orbit. So we're waiting for that because you know what Musk's longer range plan is, don't you? With that rocket separate from NASA? Going to Mars! No going to the moon with nine tourists. Nine civilians.

37:01 right-brained, out of the box thinking artists musicians photographers there's an engineer the so called everyday astronaut all handpicked by Musk and his Japanese billionaire friend. And they will of course be going to the moon They'll be spending three days sometime around the end 2024 In the same time frame as the second Artemis mission with NASA astronauts, the difference being that the NASA astronauts will have signed all kinds of legal paperwork. You know NDA's non-disclosure agreements

37:43 The civilians the artists going on my starship will go into lunar orbit for three days and a hundred twenty miles and they will have signed nothing which means they can look out the windows there big windows in the star ship with all kinds of cameras. you know, smartphones, dedicated digital cameras 4K whatever. And they will beam back live to the entire planet what they see and guess what? They will beam back through Twitter because a guy named Musk just bought Twitter for $44 million so nobody will be able to censor what they're going to send back to Earth that confirms the ruins that are there

38:32 Well I like where your head's at. You begin to see a big, big plot? Yeah, I could see it! There are a lot of claims going around out there and I like what you're saying-I would be very excited if that were the reality and I'm a big fan of your work, I grew up on it but You know, when I look at everything since though and think about NASA they lost the telemetry data. Greg! We don't have a lot of time let me continue i'm not done okay sure this is only whetting your appetite all right well let's see the South Korean mission en route to go into lunar orbit remember launched last August arrived at the moon went into orbit successfully last December en route to the moon it took stunning photographs

39:19 innumerable images of the ancient lunar dome covering the moon. And then, the Chinese Communist space program stole one of those images and is using it as a banner for the Chinese program to go to the moon and set up a lunar base." which we of course are discussing at great length this coming Sunday, which will be what? A week before your version of the show airs on your own radio space. Yeah most likely So we'll probably have to do some more on this Yes See you don't have images with your radio show right? Unfortunately not but we can put them in the show notes if you haven't but paint us a picture We have a section of the show called Radio With Pictures

40:12 So, every week when I do the show and I have guests on we devote pages of the web to their links video imagery whatever. And then during the replays in the archive people can refer to those images so we have done for the last several months detailed imagery since September of what the South Koreans were in this exquisite Emily Dickinson fashion previewing for the world. Now remember, we live on a planet where unless an authority figure sits in front of a TV camera and says this is reality all you get is an internet food fight

40:53 In other words, the South Koreans could have posted stunning close-ups of structures with doorways and windows and roofs and parking garages and all that. And nobody would comment unless they officially announced it. That's true. So they published in this incredibly elegant way If you go to the actual denori website which is part of the south korean space agency i bet you didn't know that south koreans had an official space agency with agreements with nasa for previous missions they took a camera from nasa called shadow cam,

41:37 Designed to look into the shadows at the South Pole of the moon, which are permanently shattered because orientation on the moon is such that it doesn't have real dramatic seasons like the Earth with its 23 and a half degree tilt. The moon orbits basically almost straight up and down relative to the sun. So with the North Pole and the South Pole, there are bottoms of craters that have never seen sunlight in millions and millions if not billions of years. So NASA developed a camera which is 200 times more sensitive than the camera they've flown to the Moon at any previous time

42:21 Basically book space on the south korean spacecraft for their thirty three pound camera. Why should that number be significant? It's Freemasons, huh. Yes! You got it This is all symbolic because this is about opening the treasure chest to our ancient heritage which these secret occult societies have owned for thousands of years Really you think they're gonna open up They have to Because of people like Elon Musk

42:57 and a whole bunch of other nations that are planning to send civilian tourists to the moon. What about people who say Elon Musk is just another billionaire? He's positioned to play the role of the man of the people, but he comes from an elite family. His father ran mines in a really sketchy situation, ethically sketchy way way. His mother has some weird occult stuff, she's always flashing the same old symbols. What do you think about this just being an act? That he's not really going to do anything to truly help mankind?" Well A.) if he doesn't somebody else will there are 7 billion people on this planet and a lot of rich nations and a lot of rich billionaires look at Bezos alright? Bezos has plans separately to go to the moon

43:44 What's called the new armstrong rocket and spacecraft anyway the point is it's competition now we're in a totally different. Mode than government control space programs right and if you don't send people, There are now technologies available that are literally off the shelf, where for the price of like a Mercedes-Benz you can send to private unmanned mission with the right technology to photograph the hell out of these things and display it all over the world. Which is what the South Koreans did. Let me tell you what they did that's so elegant that allows them to confirm my model

44:28 And I've looked and looked and look, I'm the only guy that's claimed that in extraordinarily ancient times millions and millions of years ago somebody with incredible technology domed the entire moon in with layers of glass-like shell like domes. And then meteor erosion took place on the side that we can see the domes are almost completely eroded how do we know this? Well, if they weren't you couldn't have landed spacecraft repeatedly both manned and unmanned on the far side. The side that the Orion mission photographed the Artemis mission

45:08 The images are stunningly complete now that the dome is much denser, much thicker and has most extraordinary visual and optical properties. And we've got all that data on the Other Side of Midnight website going back several months to all the shows we've done on this with various experts in analysis." So what the South Koreans have done is they took a special camera that the Korean Space Agency developed called a polarizing camera. You know what polarizing filters are? Yes, I believe they're used to reduce glare Well they do if that's what you want them to do They also can enhance glare if that's what you want them to do because light comes in two forms

45:58 Ordinary light that you're looking at in the studio and I'm looking at outside on this gorgeous New Mexico afternoon comes in two forms. It's filtered, in terms of color right? Red wavelengths green blue violet that kind of thing it's also filtered in terms of what's called polarization What does that mean? It means that light vibrates in a certain geometric plane Circular polarized light vibrates in all 360 degrees simultaneously. That's why it's called circular polarization, but light when it bounces off surfaces like water, like clouds, like certain materials, like optically transparent materials, like glass...

46:51 It eliminates most of the planes of vibration, so it vibrates essentially in one direction. Like up and down or sideways or catty corner if you look at a circle in front of you and you do like from six to midnight or nine to three in terms of planes of polarization you can create filters that will look at those specific filtered planes of polarization and enhance them, and exclude all other background non-polarized light. Which means you can basically look at the reflections from the glass

47:37 which at certain angles are 100% polarized and you can exclude all other light. Which means when you take a photograph through a proper Polaroid filter that's aligned properly, You can enhance the polarize reflections from the domes and exclude all other extraneous background detail that's what the koreans did that's what they published and we got the pictures and there, They're stunning, absolutely shatteringly stunning. There is no way that you can explain this in any other fashion than like I just did." I love it. And that is really great to finally get that confirmation. I know you've been talking about that for over a decade and as wild as things are out there and as interesting as the South Korean stuff is...

48:32 I've been wanting to talk to you for a long time, and I gotta fit this into the first hour. We gotta segue a little bit over to talking about Dark Mission The Secret History of NASA. This book came out in 2007 and in it you decode Egyptian symbolism and NASA patches and the ritualization of their missions like I'd never seen anyone do. You go deep into the Jack Parsons. occult origins of the space program stuff way before it was trendy. You lay out some great stuff about ruins and the face on Mars, and of course the crystal structures on the moon. It was all foundational in a lot of ways that I still consider when thinking about NASA today but what can you say about this strange Egyptian motif obsession? The ritualization of their missions and patch symbolism

49:19 Where is the state of the occult aspects in more recent activity? Do they still seem to have this dark mission? Well, yeah. Remember NASA made a contract with the South Korean Space Agency to put the shadow cam which of course is really NASA's camera to photograph the domes. Why would NASA want to secretly under a cover story photograph in those dark craters at the south pole the dome layers flying above the craters, right? Because if they're gonna land they need to know where the holes are so they can safely send a mission down to land on the surface without killing everybody. And obviously at that stage of the game they weren't going to admit it in public so when they set up the contract with the South Koreans which was many years ago we were in a different phase of this unveiling disclosure process than we are now

50:15 So Mike Malin, who is the cover-up king of NASA photography—remember he was a principal investigator on the Mars Surveyor mission to photograph Cydonia and then Mars Observer before that. And then also many missions subsequent and of course he hasn't told the truth about what's at Cydonia in the face from day one! So he's the principal investigator on this shadow cam, which is really a cover story. You know more Dickinsonian not telling the truth but telling it slant to basically photograph the domes for NASA in complimentary style with the polarization camera from the South Koreans because South Koreans you know they don't say we're putting this camera on our spacecraft to look for glass ruins

51:03 the moon. No, they're saying they're analyzing different surface properties okay? Like they always do right but after the show I'm gonna send you some of these photographs. Right! I'll include them what you're gonna do is you'll post them on your website You'll point where people can get much more information to our website at The Other Side Of Midnight and we'll do a kind of handoff between each other because it's now steamboat time. This is confirmation, there's such elegance and such elegant science in this so let me tell you another piece of the story people really don't pay attention to robots right? Right We've had robots roaming the solar system sending back stunning images confirming all my out-there bizarre models and nobody gives a damn why

51:57 because there are no people involved. People relate to people, right? That's true! Which is why Musk sending nine tourists to the moon probably around Christmas of 2024 which is just months away I mean you won't believe how fast that time was going to go can you imagine a more extraordinary Christmas present for the world. Now you say that Musk just could be a stalking horse, or plant, someone who's just dissembling is not going to do anything? Well he's already stated on the record he's gonna do it. He's already got contractual commitments they've already picked the nine astronauts and guess what Greg we are in touch with them behind the scenes. We are briefing these nine civilians

52:53 on how to see and photograph the structures on the moon. And you know what the secret sauce is? What's that? Polarizing filters! And one of them is a professional photographer I like it So we're going to have that civilian crew prepped And believe me, if they've been dumb enough to sign any NDAs we will smoke that out before they leave. But when those people arrive in lunar orbit remember in months not years, in months they will be equipped with the right filters, the right cameras, the right technology to not only see

53:41 Because all you have to do is look out the window and rotate the polarizing filter to the right angle, and the ruins will just pop out. because you'll be excluding all extraneous background noise and amplifying the signal of glass interacting with light. Do you know in science there is something called the Brewster angle, which is 53 degrees? Which is the maximum plane of polarization for light interacting with glass! And we've got photographs showing

54:18 the imagery of the Moon, not taken by the South Koreans but taken by terrestrial amateur astronomers during a total eclipse of the Sun. Because during total eclipses of the Sun what is that big black dark circle blotting out? The sun! They say it's the moon Of course it's the moon. It's the side of the moon that always faces the Earth, right? But it's in darkness because it's hidden from sunlight! It's in the Moon shadow, right?! Right. It is not totally dark... What's shining on the night side of the Moon during a total solar eclipse? Would be the Suns reflection off the Earth Exactly! Its called earthshine. Earthshine on the Moon

55:11 is 80 times brighter than full moonlight on the Earth. Is that why they tell us not to look at it? Because they don't want us to see what's on there? No, no, that's because of the solar surface. It has nothing to do with the moon. Full sunlight is about 10 thousand times brighter than earth light on the moon and now we get into the whole thing you know why stars in the Apollo images and all that...it's because of technology what they call the latitude of the photographing system, simply could not handle faint starlight and brilliant sunlight because starlight is millions of times dimmer than bright landscapes on the Moon lit by sunlight. But during total solar eclipses

56:04 Let me give you a little kind of retro. Way back in March of 1970, when I was science advisor to Walter Cronkite and we borrowed a KC-135 jet aircraft from the US Air Force—a missile tracking aircraft—and we outfitted it with a special telescope and television system that I helped design We flew that aircraft in March of 1970 at 40,000 feet over the East Coast of the United States and chased the racing shadow of the moon in eclipse tracking up the East Coast of the United States to Newfoundland. Which by the way is the eclipse that Carly Simon wrote that great song about? I don't know that one! I can hear it my head but I can't remember the name of it at the moment

56:59 It was written to, it was kind of a secret ode to Warren Beatty who she was in love with at the time. And he had jilted her so she wrote this bizarre song in which the eclipse of March 1970 is included. You're So Vain! That was the title of the song All right, and it talks about the eclipse. Anyway there I am at 40 000 feet guiding a special telescope in a borrowed you know U.S Air Force KC-135 broadcasting for the first time in history a live color TV view through our telescope of the total eclipse of the sun that Carly Simon put in this song okay?

57:42 And what I tried to do with technology of 1970 is to photograph simultaneously the eclipse and the Earth light on the dark black disk of the Moon that only appears as a black disk. People don't see the familiar features because in contrast to the brilliant light of the corona, and the very dim light of Earth's shine you can't really see it unless you have technological aid We've got videotape

58:19 effort that experiment and on that old videotape I've gone back now and looked, you can see indications of the glass domes. It's bizarre it's extraordinary its astounding and its history remember YouTube saves everything in your life that ever was committed to film So be careful what you do in retrospect way back when. Anyway, so we've got an eclipse coming up in 2024. You're aware of that right? Yep going to be in Texas to see it! In 2017 there was one which Robin and I recorded with instrumentation for the physics. In 2024 there's a second one which kind of crosses in the middle

59:06 Kind of like toward the east coast unlike the one in twenty seventeen which went down kind of like the southeast coast very very rare that you would get to total eclipses crossing the same continent within a few years each other very rare all those people in the path of totality if we reach them with the right mass media which is planning now. Will be able to from their own backyard and the proper binoculars or smartphones and telescope for whatever they will be able with polarizing filters, do what already been done but the astronomers know what they were doing in photographing the ancient glass dome around the moon because when the sunlight hits the earth.

1:00:00 it partially enters the water and is partially reflected, that reflected wave is up to 30-40% polarized. It then reaches the moon! You with me? I'm with you. It's reflected off of glass structures at 100%, at the Brewster angle. And that's why you see in this incredible natural solar system experiment, the moon and the earth are the only two bodies in the whole solar system where this works because Earth is a water world. And water polarizes sunlight and acts like a partial polarizing filter that is reflected in earthshine from the glass ruins on the moon—and bingo! On thousands of images ordinary citizens

1:01:01 will be able to photograph from their own backyard this extraordinary ancient reality of a civilization, a super high-tech ultra civilization that was able to literally dome in in glass the entire ancient moon. We are on the threshold of stunning developments That will be amazing. We're just one year away and in December, remember the eclipses in April of 2024 right? Mm-hmm The total eclipse is April I believe 2024 yes yes okay In December being very generous with rocket development and must time frame and all that you're gonna have those nine tourists who are going to be orbiting for three days just 120 miles up

1:01:55 Equipped with the proper filters, the proper cameras and the proper instruction from us as to what to see what to verify and what to send home. Uncensored unblocked by twitter that's why must bought twitter It's an interesting premise. We shall see! Well, you know how I know all this? How? Are you aware that Musk and Joe Rogan spent a half-hour talking about my research a few months ago? Yes, I am yes And they had the book cover ready?! Yes Did they reach out of course not it's more Emily Dickinson They're prepping the audience

1:02:37 Nothing in this game is linear. Nothing! It's level upon level upon level, because a lot of it has been controlled by the so-called secret societies and we'll hit one on the head... The Masons! Right and I've heard you talk about the Shem Suh Horror which goes all the way back to Egypt All the way back, the followers of Horus yes Yes, that's the curiosity with a lot of this stuff. With the obsession of Egyptian ritual, the symbolism, the occult numbers and all this emphasis you've called them magicians in Dark Mission and it's just... It's a curious thing that they have this preoccupation and I just wonder- It's not curious! It's about our heritage. It's about who owns what? And who is in charge and who was just shadowed

1:03:26 Who doesn't count? All right. We're looking at DNA lineage, genetic relationships to the family out there which through history because of weird things they are viewed as gods right? Think Stargate SG-1 sure which was part of the preparation Why do you think Stargate SG-1 was produced with the cooperation of the US Air Force? Why do you think that it's been rerun on Comet and SyFy endlessly over and over again, because in part that's our ancient history.

1:04:05 And how do you, a la Brookings, acclimate a population that from their perspective is dumber than dirt so they won't freak out? Remember Senator Kennedy? Lock your doors. That's our first instinct with the unknown! Lock your doors. Give me a break." So they've got to have this program over decades to leak quietly, subtly, incrementally over and over again more and more information, more and more storytelling, more and more cultural memes like all these tentpole movies like Stargate, like Star Trek, like Star Wars!

1:04:47 And now we're at the end game where we are all modalities will be able to go to the moon and take close up imagery and blow our minds as to what culture was able do that. And that's the entree to everything else that's going to open up in the solar system. Again, if it's not Musk it's going to be some other billionaire or some other private group that sends a spacecraft for the cost of Mercedes with the right filtering now that South Koreans have shown us how to do it and so these secrets are not secrets for many more months than maybe you can count on two hands

1:05:27 Maybe I love it and it's weird that the same Egyptian stuff comes up in SpaceX to the Falcon rocket is Horace a pep is the dragon That's an accident. Not at all not at all as soon as I saw must naming his key rocket Falcon I said, well of course he's in on it Are you familiar with the Von Braun novel? No, I don't think so. Oh, where are the fake alien invasion claims that were made by Carol Rosin? Well, I'm very suspicious of all that. I know I've known Carol for decades now. Oh, I really wonder whether she and he ever had that conversation. All right. OK, good to know. Good to know just telling you this an inside scoop. Carol and I go way, way back

1:06:10 And she will not have a current conversation about any of this on my show. Why not? Sounds like she doesn't want to be challenged on that story, but a lot of people are talking about how the things we discussed at the beginning of the show are seed in the ground for exactly that narrative. Let me go back to Von Braun. Okay. You know who von braun is sure if it doesn't bond, Braun was a Nazi rocket engineer who basically pioneered the German rocket technologies prior to World War II. Hitler reached out through his minions and basically conscripted him and said, you work for the army, you work for us, and you're going to develop super weapons so we can take over the world. Von Braun really wanted to do space flight but he had to make this horrible deal with the devil which he did and that's a whole other long program

1:07:02 During the end of the war, during the 1940s around 45 Werner Von Braun based on the technology that he developed in terms of spaceflight you know being able to launch satellites envisioning space stations all of that. He wrote a novel! A fictional novel are you aware of that? Vaguely remind us what it was about It's about a group of engineers basically story of his life and German rocket scientist companions except it extrapolates to the future when would the ages of the US government they get funding actually take a fleet of rocket ships tomorrow's and set up a colony.

1:07:46 like projecting, you know, like he did in the Collier series and he did in the books that came out in the 1950s illustrated by Chesley Bond. Still, unlike he did with Disney, remember the work he did with Disney Walt Disney? Yes. He laid and trips to Mars, the Mars expedition with those stunning paintings by my old friend and colleague Chesley Bonstell. Yes again seeding things in entertainment Exactly like Brookings preparing the runway for when it goes from fiction to being real that's what Brookings recommended people have to be prepared so all of this stuff has been preparation in this model In the novel

1:08:33 He talks about the political structure of the colony on Mars. You know, how it'll be kind of like a bicameral legislature and there will be an executive basically patterning it after the US government right? What did he call the chief executive in the novel not a president okay what did he call him instead I don't know The Elon You think any of this is accidental? No. And you heard it here first on Greg's show, everybody! I appreciate that. So just before i let you go in the updated version of Dark Mission you and Mike Barra both say that Dark Mission 2 is going to be coming out soon what happened there

1:09:28 Well, we kind of drifted apart. Mike's not the right guy to do this with I'm going to do this by myself and we know so much more now than we knew then that's why i've kind of held off again the South Korean breakthrough is stunning because it allows me to democratize this to anybody listening that wants to do a little homework and actually pay attention and do it correctly. Okay, and if they want to help you in that we're talking to a bunch of people right now If you want to democratize this what can what can they do to maybe help out? Start by coming to the other side at midnight listening and participating become a member because we need the funding We need subscriptions To keep this research going

1:10:09 And then contact me through the contact info on the left hand side of the computer screen and I will ascertain your level of expertise. If you're a pro photographer, whatever it'll be pretty trivial if you're not, you can learn this is not complicated everybody's taking selfies with same technology can blow the doors off on what they've been hiding on the moon. I love it, yes Club 19.5 is waiting for you people! Yep get involved and that's not an accident 19.5 is a key number in hyperdimensional physics well yes Sirius was hovering over the Apollo 11 landing site at precisely nineteen point five degrees over the lunar horizon You got it! I know, I know

1:10:53 Man, well this has just been a lot of fun. A real dream come true for me you're a legend It's an honor to have some of your time give them the links one more time You got TheOtherSideOfMidnight.com and also Enterprise Missions.com? Enterprise missions was an S because someone stole enterprise mission We had some opposition when Robin died And they snuck in there So it actually is more truthful because it's more than one mission So it's the enterprise missions, plural.com awesome. I love it people follow up and definitely send me some of those images and let's get that bet on the table but keep doing what you do and take care

1:11:36 I have to think of something suitable. Something uniquely appropriate." I like it, I'm ready! Alright, have a good one man thank you so much! Say hi to Ron and Clyde! I will enjoy your evening You too! Ahead warp factor 1 Copy And another one bites the dust. Super happy today to say that I've added one more classic conspiracy legend to my mantle of folks, I really did come of age listening too and it's surreal to have built a platform that actually offers them something in 2023 It did take me a good while to sort of get a rhythm going with Richard He's an old-school guy he comes with things that he wants to get to

1:12:24 But I also had some specific themes that i wanted to fold in because it's such a unique opportunity for me as well. So, It took almost the whole first hour to really dial-in what I thought was good back and forth but I hear him taking calls and getting into debates on the other side of midnight all the time so he has got thick skin and is confident in his positions and I just enjoy that vibe! And we had a little bit debate there I know Richard is super confident in the Apollo missions and their credibility. He's not going to budge on that, but i thought coming from the ritual perspective and giving a quick list of reasons I think they were staged and asking about the possibility that it was theater for the mind was the right way to ask but...I definitely didn't just want this to devolve into a moon landing debate because that's not a good use of the time that I had with him if we're not going to

1:13:20 mainly meet people where they are to give their perspective, then I probably shouldn't be getting them on. That's sort of my attitude about it and it's bad form to highlight my differences of opinion in wrap-ups when the guest isn't here so...I just want to appreciate Richard for who he is and what he brings to the table And as my editor said, It was fun to hear someone actually defending the Apollo missions for once Plus I do think Richard is right when he says that Going through the field of ufology just led him to think it all smells fishy. Too much misdirection, disinformation, psyops and less than genuine folks muddying up those waters And I've always been intrigued by structures on the moon and Mars Old ruins they don't want us to know about Also, I gotta give him props for being a man of his word because its really common in these interviews for a guest to say

1:14:17 Oh, I'm gonna send you that when we're done. And they almost never do! Well Richard actually did send me the stuff from these South Koreans and... ...I used the main side-by-side image as the cover art for this episode because of the formatting it might be a little small but you have to admit it's pretty strange You can also see in the show notes For people who think all space agency images are CGI What would be the point of painting this weird ring around the moon? In this case, I think it's more likely that Richard is right and NASA has been trying to present a certain perspective of what's out there. And now from someone else we're seeing added detail that doesn't really fit that model at all and likely speaks to a radically different and more advanced interplanetary past! I'm into it

1:15:13 But my favorite thing about Richard has always been that I heard him deconstructing the names, times and dates of NASA missions from a symbolic and ritualistic perspective first. Even going so far as to say that certain important celestial bodies were at very specific symbolic angles on the horizon when Buzz Aldrin apparently did do this masonic ritual during his moon mission Again, I don't know what literally happened and what has been a construct but when you really get into consciousness and the impact of theaters of the mind The importance of was it or wasn't it does start to break down. We don't have to solve everything Sometimes we can just have a little fun

1:16:03 But those ritualistic elements are definitely things he put in my head from old Coast to Coast AM shows. And then people like Chris Knowles have obviously completely blown the top off, but Richard deserves a lot of credit there and it is the stuff I wanted to pepper in the most but it just wasn't top-of-mind for him and that's fine You know how I get. I really do try to structure these interviews and i'm watching the time and i'm like well we're 30 minutes in, we're 40 minutes in...I want to hit this point at this point and we're not going to get there if I don't jump in And sometimes it just goes how it goes. It was a lot of fun, its just bittersweet that the Plus show is paywalled Obviously thats how we do things and thats how I get paid but I thought it was an enjoyable entertaining second half and wish more people were going to hear it because we did find a fun back-and-forth rhythm and I hope we can do it again

1:17:01 Somewhere in there halfway through, I realized my really long way of asking questions and setting things up wasn't going to work. But since we're talking about it the plus show topics were getting into that question of how Richard handles Apollo hoax criticisms. We talked about why the astronauts were brainwashed and mind controlled which Richard is pretty confident in We talked about the hunt for ancient extraterrestrial libraries to reconstruct the human story, probably my favorite aspect of the whole show. It also fed into ruins in the Antarctic another great thing to hear him talk about we got into why Edgar Mitchell was so obsessed with consciousness. We decoded some other recent NASA activity Osiris Rex and Bennu

1:17:54 We talked about that legendary face on Mars and the Jack Kirby comic that came out years earlier. I mean, he broke that down really well! And we also talked about Richard's work with John Brandenburg and his thoughts on the Martian nukes hypothesis So when i got in there and fired off faster questions, we covered a lot more diverse ground Sign up for PLUS if you're intrigued at all Remember, you can start with a 7-day free trial and download all the great shows I've done lately. Schwab, Analog, Richard... And then just cancel! I don't want you to do that exactly but i am doing fine and would like more people hear these shows in full when it comes down to it

1:18:38 And I do hope some of you let Richard know that this was appreciated so we can do it again. Tune in to the other side of Midnight, he takes calls... Ask him about things that were said here today! I know he's game for it On a personal level, I pretty much rolled in from Mount Shasta, crammed for this interview, re-read Dark Mission, scrambled to get The Jeff Harmon Show out to you and then got on a plane to Florida So now I'm back and scrambling to get this out to you before it's largely irrelevant, and it actually does seem like when it comes to the main thing we talked about in the beginning they never really did give us a good answer about these things they shot down. I think the official story is just that they never found them? And then they stopped looking...

1:19:23 Apparently, one was a ham radio operator balloon according to noagenda and they had a listener who is in the industry and said it was just the fine-tuning and calibration of military radar that had them picking up more objects. But I question that. It doesn't really make a lot of sense because these kind of balloons and ham radio stuff... These things have been around a lot longer than me even! It's not new tech, so when we have this sudden dust up it just seems like it is a little deeper of the story in my opinion but still probably not aliens and largely used as a distraction away from so many other things like this crazy Ohio disaster.

1:20:09 I just heard they're taking tens of thousands of contaminated gallons of water and much of the contaminated soil, and they're shipping it to towns in Texas and Michigan because when your disaster didn't do enough damage. Just spread it all around, I suppose another thing is that I do hope we get that bet established he brought up the prospect of a bet when we were talking about Musk taking nine people to the moon and revealing all But the problem is that it is a hard bet to make because if they do carry out that mission, I'm probably going to say that it looked like it was stagecraft and Richard's gonna say see? They did just like I said they would. And we would probably be at an impasse but betting is deep in my veins! I do take it seriously and I am a man of my word. I would never try to weasel out of it but I would be looking at that kind of stuff very critically

1:21:08 And at the end of the day, I just think we wouldn't agree. But...I got all jazzed up when he brought the idea of a bet into play! I certainly agree with Richard when he says things like nothing in this game is linear it's levels upon levels upon levels and when we did get into the Antarctica stuff in The Plus Show It is a valid question to ask Well, why even send Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to Antarctica to look at something? As we know they did. If you look it up, you can find that apparently both of them went down there. Buzz Aldrin had to be medically airlifted out. He's an old man! But if during the Apollo missions all you really did is simulate something and spin these guys around in a chamber to make them feel like they did something special then it doesn't seem like their opinions on anything would really be all that important

1:22:00 But if the Apollo missions were genuine and they really saw something crazy up there, sending them down to Antarctica does make you think they were being asked. Hey, does this thing here look like the stuff you saw up there? And that's interesting! I also hope you're ready for the big revealing at the 2024 eclipse and if you really look at the South Korean moon mission photo it certainly is a curious thing that jives well with what Richard has been saying for over two decades. Maybe we are in the endgame as he put it In higher side news, the auction is still going on. Probably gonna go longer than expected because listing them and then getting them in the mail in a timely manner has not been the smoothest process but I'm done traveling now. I got nothing to do but stuff envelopes and pack. I might even just stop after a few more rounds and do this again in a couple of years

1:22:57 Because from the dashboard I have, it looks like I got exactly 50 active auctions and 27 have bids. So plenty of available ones and maybe i'm doing too many at once because it is a lot to scroll through although the process has certainly been helpful! It's completely paid for the pod rental and transfer so I'm not complaining but also some of these I'm nostalgic for and I want to keep for myself to be honest Anyway let's look at the meetup calendar as well It looks like March 4th we got one in Sedona, Arizona. March 10th Scottsville New York. March 11th Spooner Wisconsin also march 11th Senechtin British Columbia Canada

1:23:43 It's a meetup on Vancouver Island at Island View Beach. Maybe I just should have said that, a lot easier to pronounce then on March 18th, a Harrisburg Oregon Meet up March 22nd the Arroyo Seco meet up and March 23rd the Cerro de la Olla New Mexico meet-up That is actually an antler hunt camp out on Pot Mountain so fun stuff people are getting pretty creative with the calendar i like it And speaking of the calendar, it was Gordon who pointed out that hosts were not getting email notifications when a person would RSVP. And that's probably not the best system so we fixed that! It was set so that the page for each event would have a counter but its better if a host gets emails We want them to get a sense of how many people are coming So I think that makes the experience of putting an event on the calendar A little better But I love it Use it and have some fun No risk all reward

1:24:43 And we will certainly have a couple when I get down to Florida. But that's pretty much all she wrote! Big thanks again to Richard, check out the added images in the show notes go over to other side of midnight or enterprise missions for more tell them you want to hear him on THC again and maybe this can turn into a fun mutually beneficial series of shows rather than a one-off We shall see if it's in the stars, but thanks to you for listening and taking part in a personal milestone for me. It's been really a great month of shows despite how crazy busy I've been. I think February has been one of the best months in awhile but hey! I've done my part Your move Ritual Mission Planners NASA Deceivers and Moon Ruins Concealers You're fucking

1:25:31 From space it was falling, its light started calling It's making crop circles again Just as I was looking up it showed me all the hidden stuff And now all enlightened and zen The masses is hard Silver ships Now I'm not asleep Don't obey the elite Gotta be to the end Now I start to wonder, now we're not the sheep that they bred us to be. Got a beam to the head! Now we start to wonder, now we start to wonder... You have corruption and crime since the visitors set me straight. I encouraged you to go when you see the saucers glow up my awake masses is hard Silver ships in my yard

1:26:48 Now we're not asleep, don't obey Got a beam to the head and we start to wonder Now we're not the sheep that has to be beamed To now we start to wonder We'll see these things up in the sky Just as the system starts to die Balls fading

1:27:38 And next round they'll erase It's time we have our place Cause we're not the sheep that they gave to the head Now, We start to wonder now were not asleep Cause we got THC and... Now,We start to wonder Now,We Start To Wonder Now,We Start To Wonder Now,We Start To Wondering Now,We Start To Wonder Now,We Start To Wonder Again

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