Philip Fairbanks | Child Abuse Cases, MK Ultra, & Jon Benét Ramsey

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00:51 Which means you'll unfortunately never hear my voice again. Back in the saddle and ready to ride, Hireside Chatters. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood And while we know the Hollywood-wielding sorcerers of the intertrainment industry love to present us with a leave it beaver happy little suburbia depiction of America but very rarely do they ever really show us how the sausage is made and very rarely do many of us even think to look

01:53 This country is a wild ride that has operated on a dark engine beneath the hood. A deep state of unelected shadow organizations, think tanks and privileged insiders responsible for programs like MKUltra, Operation Mockingbird, the deployment of economic hitmen, the removal of heads-of-state, the installation of puppet dictators, drug running, cultural programming, media infiltration, black budgets, black boxes and so much more." Although many of these operations have been exposed to some degree, there's never really any accountability and rarely even full disclosure. And when it comes to the darkest aspect of the intelligence world political class depravity and elite circles child abuse in human trafficking The lid clamps down harder and faster than almost any other subject

02:39 We sometimes get glimpses into the darkness with cases like The Finders Cult, The Franklin Scandal and the affairs of Jeffrey Epstein. But again justice never really seems to be served and the story always seems to just get swept away Although thanks to journalists like today's guest Philip Fairbanks, that might change someday. If you don't know, Phil is a writer with 20 years publishing experience. His work has appeared in the peer-reviewed journal of art After Image, Paranoia Magazine, The Goldwater and several other print and online publications He's courageously written a new book entitled The Pedogate Primer, the Politics of Pedophilia which seeks to expose one of the darkest of dark undercurrents that runs through many systems people and organizations that build out the power pyramid. And I'm psyched to have him here talk about it. Boldly going where few dare go, a true truth-seeking journalist and champion of the people Philip Fairbanks welcome to The Higher Side

03:34 Well you know it's an honor to be here honestly kind of surreal like i was telling you before six or seven years ago when i first listen to the show and everyone figured out beyond the shadow so yeah this is a real thrill. First of all, though I guess i'll introduce myself a lot of people most people aren't familiar with me now. I've got the one book so far published. I've got another one being edited which by the way... ...I feel like you're either in my head or reading my emails because it's literally The tentative title is Deep State Penetrating The Veils Of The Unelected Shadow Government So when I heard those words put together and almost that order I gotta say my eyes perked up

04:15 But now I've been, you know... You can call it conspiracy culture but i try and stick to the facts. What's as verifiable as possible there is a lot that you can find in FOIA and there are certain journalists outside of the mainstream and even occasionally inside the mainstream that if you piece the pieces together and stitch them together you start to see the bigger picture like for me it started with I'm about to turn 40 in a couple years so i remember JFK fever and 93 was the 30th anniversary and then jfk led to MK ultra when i was about 17. And from MK Ultra on just been obsessively studying the security state, as for this book and why i wrote it its

05:07 The story of child abuse, it's something that like you said people don't want to hear about. People don't want to think about it and I'll be honest this was hard to write. I had nightmares I had an insomnia, you know. I'd wake up two or three times a night This is stuff i've been studying for years and years but when you're wallowing in it for like 10 to 15 hours a day It's rough! It is...it's rough And this is a difficult read It's not heartwarming unfortunately But it's stark and it's true and it's the story that needs to be told The reason why it's a topic close to my heart honestly

05:47 You know, I've had several friends and exes who were victims of child abuse. I actually was there and talked a couple of exes into confronting their step rapists in front of their mothers. And you don't want to be in that room okay? But I'm glad I was there. That's kind of the way this whole book process putting this book together has felt Because it started as a chapter in the deep state book which is being edited now, which is little longer. But yeah I go from writing about this and pedigree is just one chapter and then I'm like it could be volumes of books that's why this is the pedigree primer because it's just that first coat

06:32 Every chapter of this could have multiple books and still the story wouldn't be fully told. So I'm really just trying to touch on as much stuff and get enough relevant details to like open people's eyes I especially want, you know...I want this to be the kind of book that you can give your normie friend. That you can give it to your skeptic friend because hey no check out the bibliography! This guy's for real he is using academic sources and its New York Times and FOIA documents in its not made up it's not Breitbart

07:08 He's using real sources. This is stuff that's really happening and it's scary, you know So yeah Hopefully that's what this book will do Yes It is a great read although very uncomfortable and you do present the information at a high level You left the reptilian overlords out of this one hand for good reason right? Right Yeah But you cover a lot of ground you write about The Finders The Satanic Panic Epstein the Franklin scandal All sorts of little situations where some of this was exposed, as well a whole lot of stuff I wasn't familiar with at all. But as you know, some of these stories have been circling for years So they're not unknown but nothing really seems to be done about it And we know it's pretty risky stuff for journalists to be covering anyway

07:55 Who does to you oh yeah and tennessee seven was a genius but his reputation in wikipedia page won't show that you know what is it's kinda rough. But i do take solace in the fact that like i said, I know people are gonna, you know that's something i put in the introduction. People are going to say oh he is trying to profit off of misery this is a grift You know I've actually read articles saying that people who write about child trafficking and institutional pedophilia Oh it's a big money making scam And no doubt im sure there are ppl like that but thats not what this book is and yeah I definitely tried to cover the important stuff that folks like you and me definitely now

08:41 But there's always deeper to go that's what i keep learning you know is that i keep learning but also wanted to touch on some stories better. What a bit lesser now some of them came to me through some interesting means you know i'm interested in weird fiction that's where the hoist man connection comes and the cleveland street scandal that's another one You know, everybody's heard of Epstein and a lot of people have heard of Franklin scandal, Franklin cover up. But the Cleveland Street Scandal which if you look at UK institutional pedophilia this is one of their roots This is one of the very foundational modern moments I'm sure it didn't start there but this is one of the first bits of trail we've got Is The Cleveland Street Scandal And this embroils Oscar Wilde

09:34 You know, at the time he's the talk of the town. Even though he's a commoner and hanging out with lords and ladies and aristocrats on London's East End his plays are doing terrifically then he decides to write this book which there has been some academic work saying that it is inspired in some ways by the Jack The Ripper murders and the Cleveland Street scandal he possibly had some dirt on. Both in the book and the last play, The Importance of Being Earnest they're both about people leading a double life it's kind of mirror into that whatever was going on with Jack the Ripper I do subscribe to the idea that whoever or whether it was one or multiple people It was likely someone from the upper class you know a surgeon and a mason A royal and his friends something like that

10:29 But around the time that this kind of thing is going, we got Prince Albert possibly embroiled along with several other high-ranking officials in London in this Courier Boy scandal. And once again it's so similar to the Franklin scandal by the way which also used these kids as mules and messenger boys That was the cover The cover story was their messenger boys Their telegraph operators but in reality they were doing that just not in the traditional sense and they also did other things and when Oscar Wilde went to trial and was banished off to the new world, to America it was because of homosexuality. It was a crime at the time especially if you were a commoner and You'd had sex with the son of someone of some standing

11:27 a bit of lord and gentry, you know. That was Oscar's mistake What may have held him off—and there are allusions to this in his work—were certain papers And there was a theft that precluded the Cleveland Street scandal finally coming to light Even though it didn't enter the realm of academia until decades and decades after it occurred But yes, you know somebody ran across some old police documents and it turns out that pretty much everyone in the trial for Oscar Wilde from his lawyer to the defense and the judge they were all customers of The Cleveland Street Telegraph boys. And right after this theft

12:14 which some have surmised that it could've been, you know, some kind of papers. Imagine it as like Assange's kill switch, you know? They stole his kill switch papers they stole the dirt he had and after that he got the highest penalty in British history for the charge of homosexuality They really threw the book at him and like I said its really no surprise when you consider the fact He was embroiled, he was surrounded by the Cleveland Street gang and he apparently should we say dabbled in a little bit of pederasty in addition to having relations above his station which is a crime itself at that time. But yeah so Oscar Wilde is banished to America and there seem to be

13:08 possible clues in some of his last works, which it's weird how he had this meteoric rise and then this horrific crash. And it all sort of centers around the Cleveland Street scandal which was hushed up for decades until these police papers came out you know? Around the same time there was and I do cite a few academic papers regarding It was a weird time as far as children and sexuality went. The Victorian era is seen as being unsexed and repressed, but at the same time there was this openness in sexuality with children that today many scholars and academics and authors have been quite open about the fact that guys like J.M. Barrie and Lewis Carroll

13:57 If you hang out with little kids until they turn 14 and take pictures of them naked, whether you've touched them or not, you're probably a pedophile. And these guys, beloved children's authors—and I love Dodgson! I love his work. I loved it. And i don't believe that he was a child molester But I think it's pretty obvious that he was a pedophile. There is an issue of certain parts of his diary disappeared at his death, Nobody knows why he and the Liddell family, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is based on Alice Liddell. It was a story he told for and about her. And there's so much in that book by the way! That's something like I said folks like you and me who've been into that they know about there's a lot of symbolism in Alice in Wonderland has to do with drugs and the occult and sex

14:57 Dodgson was a genius. He was a mathematical genius, he was a whiz but he was also a pedophile J and Barry I'm not gonna say he had papers forged to make himself the guardian of The boys that he wrote up as the lost boys in Peter Pan and the precursor To that story that he'd written like Alice in Wonderland specifically for and about these certain children You know, when their parents died. He'd gotten close to them he gotten close to the family When the parents died I can't remember which author but there was an author contemporary author at that time who said something about J.M. Barrie has such a peculiar touch on those he loves they tend to die you know so it was like this thing and he would get close to people's kids then one of them would die or something like that and then he would be the shoulder to cry on

15:55 And once again, I do not believe he was a child abuser and even the people... Referred to him as unsexed, as basically neutered. That's the reason why his marriage is thought to have failed because he didn't have a sexual drive so you know... And let me just step in here because yeah You kind of glossed over that little bit of uh story there where He got custody Of some kids Because yes! He changed the name? It was supposed to go to the maid Yes I'm not going to say he intentionally forged it, but it is very incidental and interesting that when the lost boy's parents' mother was the last to die left in her will that the boys were to be taken care of by the maid. But J.M. Barrie was the one who transcribed this and delivered this over to the authorities and he accidentally wrote his own name

16:56 And for some reason that's just accepted as fact, that it was an accident. And it is also said you know the maid didn't have enough money to raise them still that's very odd whether or not these were child abusers and I don't believe either of them abused children physically But i do believe that they were pedophiles and i do believe that even without touch you can arm a child. You think they were psychologically manipulative and had these kind of tendencies but it was bad to act on? Whether they were innocent or not, yes. And the bit about signing over by May is one that really gets to me

17:37 Because it does just seem so suspicious. But yes, the boys themselves one of them who grew up to be I think bisexual It turns out and this is you know in early England when it was I think was still illegal at the time They've said that he was not a sexual person So it wasn't a child molestation Of a physical variety but I do believe that he had as some have written an unhealthy fixation on On kids and especially the ones that he was close to what they knew it or not right i do believe it had an effect yeah. And also just wanted to throw out this real quick about lewis carroll because you mentioned that he wrote alice in wonderland about, alice ladelle and he was kicked out of the ladelle family are like kicked out of associating with them yet for some unknown reason and curiously and diary pages are missing from around there

18:36 It's just like the missing papers in the Cleveland scandal. It's all a coincidence, I swear to you! No it is kind of fishy but that's the way in so many of these cases like The Children Of God and Dr Ruth Wangeren said something about that how you can't say it is so You can just point to all these things and go That's what it looks like because this is how The operation occurs at times right and it's really uncomfortable to make any sort of accusations or claims but unfortunately in this particular round. The justice system never really holds up the way it's supposed to. We have no choice but to speculate a little bit." These are their beloved children's writers, to this day! They're enduring beloved... I do believe that they had some sort of innocent true love for children. Just the fact that in the case of Carol especially there were stories that once they aged out he lost interest okay buddy

19:38 You know, yeah even if they didn't do anything their works and terms like Neverland and Wonderland are synonymous with these kind of communities online and stuff like that Exactly our have been used to child porn rings Michael Jackson who once again? I don't know if he actually physically held a job So that those children were abused once they realized what had gone on and how they'd been used by someone they looked up to, and idolized. And someone they trusted their own parents. That was an unforgivable form of abuse regardless of anything physical that did or did not happen. I would encourage people if you've got the stomach for it

20:22 David McGowan's work, both Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon and Program to Kill The Politics of Serial Murder which is sort of a nod to the Eberleys who were alleged child pornographers and members of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation who wrote The Politics Of Child Abuse. The title itself is sort of an inside joke, a nod-to-a-nod kind of thing But yeah, the reason I mentioned MKUltra in the book by the way is i think that's an important place to start for the modern era. As for the Victorian era, I think there was a form of programming going on then too you know? I didn't mention Hoistman but he was a weird fiction author who wrote these

21:11 generally Romanoclef. It was stories about himself and people he knew where he changed the name, and that was a popular thing to do in France and England in the 1800's you know? You would just change little details but in his case He ended up spending his last days cloistered away on sanctified ground because of the stories of child sacrificing Satanists And he'd actually spent some time with Pierre Boulon Joseph Pierre Boulon who Apparently was like the second coming of Gilles de Retz who is a friend of Joan of Arc. Oddly enough this child killer from the 1600s or whatever, was a friend of Joan of Arc or the 1300's so there's definitely occurring to this and

22:01 I do believe that there is a sort of recurrent programming, that from MKUltra on especially was really refined. And that's where we get to the situation like where you know the movie Cuties came out and now we've got a movie that does not pass the DOST test... could be considered child pornography because of its lurid and titillating nature, and had focuses on the genitals of prepubescent children. And this movie has been lauded and applauded in any instances of hesitation towards calling this anything but a great work of art is met with cries as well you know your conservative or your right winger or your Nazi which is odd because there are multiple leftists

22:50 I found just the trailer of the film disgusting. And i understand that it may have a good meaning behind it, but unfortunately i think that any decent message was lost in the portrayal and you didn't need to actually victimize young girls and sexualize them in order to show that sexualization of young girls is wrong But yeah, the cuties bit comes from Netflix which is of course co-founded by Bernays' grandnephew I think it is and Bernays's friend was Ivy Lee who is another one of the fathers at PR and was the uncle of William S. Burroughs, another famous pederast incidentally so yes I do believe there's something that has been going on in this is where I'll get cries of satanic panic

23:41 And no, I don't believe that doing karate or playing D&D leads to Satanism any more than smoking marijuana leads to heroin. By which I mean there are certainly some people who start the one and end up in the other but that doesn't mean the one caused the other. But yeah, there's definitely a dark current and I do believe that there are too many cases They were high profile and they're often, especially in the past less or so now because they're able to keep us so amused by bread and circuses that we have a short memory for NXIVM and Epstein. How weird it is that Eps- you know? The cameras in Epsteins and stuff like I said this is stuff people gone over and over again but stuff like that and the Franklin scandal and the finders cult there these little blips

24:34 that people soon forget about and they just go on about their day but they keep happening. It's true and i wanted to ask you little more about the mk ultra chapter did mention it and, yes we've covered them culture before we know they gave lsd two kids did experiments in psychic driving creating split personalities and all that stuff but you do right About some of the offshoots and some of the lesser known programs and i've heard you talk about them on other interviews as well like stargate yes and start getting interesting talk to us about that a bit once again it's not my idea.

25:13 There are FOIA documents and it's on the congressional record where multiple people were saying, hey how come when you guys stopped doing that thing where you put people in a dark room and gave them LSD. You started doing this other thing with the same people where he put people in a dark room and give them LSD? I'm half joking by the way because actually no there were people involved in MKUltra interested in Stargate and involved in Stargate But they decided that actually, because that was an early consideration. There were certain ex-MK doctors who wanted to include the use of LSD but from the XRVers who I've heard pre and post FOIA disclosure and a lot came out recently just in the last couple years too much for you to go through but i've heard pre and post where

26:08 They realized they had a pattern, they had a model and it apparently worked sometimes. Jimmy Carter says it worked anyways and for some reason they kept funding it until Jimmy Carter accidentally said well nothing else works so we got our psychic spies to find the downed spy plane you know? And then in the very next year after its shut down The CIA is like oh by the way they were doing that for 20 something years but didn't work Then how come they kept going to Congress every year? Because they had to be reinstated every year. They didn't have a five-year lease, they had to go back show their findings prove that they were still worth the money that they were costing

26:51 And they kept getting paid until Jimmy Carter opened his blad and accidentally mentioned that psychic spies did what the entire force of the security state could not one time. And Project Stargate is when they start bringing in Ouija boards, and channeling, and all kinds of weird stuff there right? Yeah yeah and there was a Scientologist involved at the same time as this as well! What makes it really interesting to me is also a mysterious death that some of the xr vs post disclosure have come out and finally said we think it's fishy. But yeah you know this i'm told connection i find interesting because this is around the same time that operations no white is going on in around the mid seventies

27:38 L. Ron Hubbard had people infiltrating everything! He had people in the IRS as janitors, you know what I mean? And then they would be sleeping up late at night and whoops these papers don't exist anymore and he had people everywhere, ya know? Talk about an evil genius...and i mention LRH as they call it in Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard in The Cults chapter because Scientology is something everybody knows about. But, something that's very rarely mentioned is the multiple allegations of child abuse We know about the kidnapping and the mind control and financial rape but there are a lot of child abuse stories It said that L Ron Hubbard was impotent kind of similar to J M Barry maybe

28:30 if And guys like the Children of God and L. Ron Hubbard in Scientology, to quote Jesse Pinkman they can't keep getting away with this but they do! And as I said it's just blips on people's radar you know? Just blip-blip-blip 1 2 3 then it's out the other ear but it keeps happening

29:09 In the case of the Finders cult, that's one of the few cases where we definitely know that there was a CIA connection because the feds were involved now. Multiple federal agencies, multiple police departments all of a sudden it became an internal investigation by the CIA? Well then that means that the CIA was involved in this cult that was having kids get naked and cut up goats! And that really happened, you know? Yeah. There's photos! Yeah yeah there is evidence of that and Telex documents talking about selling kids to Hong Kong and a whole pamphlet the same thing with the children of God these people even wrote pamphlets on how to abuse children how to procure children and they kept getting away with it They never saw justice

29:58 They might get raided once or twice. You can only have naked, feral children running around outside of a van that stinks with two grown men who refuse to speak to you for so long before the neighbors will call the cops! Yes, and just before we move on completely from MKUltra and Project Stargate I wanted you to talk a little bit about the work of Dr. Jose Delgado this is pretty interesting. Towards a psycho civilized society this guy wrote a book called towards the psycho civilized Society, which is really a scary title to me I just don't like the idea of the psycho civilized society But some of the experiments he did you know? The CIA at the time was doing all kinds of weird stuff like putting transmitters and cats to try to turn animals into their own spies and see if they control their motion or

30:58 using implants and things. Delgado worked with implants and electrical means of stimulating, electrical... And he also worked with electromagnetic frequencies! One thing that I found really really interesting about Delgado's work is he worked on some the same frequencies that our cell phone towers work on. In his experiments he found that animals could be made more docile or more aggressive Depending on how you turned the dial of these electromagnetic frequencies cuz you know there's this human resonance.

31:35 and we're messing with that, you know? I'm not an eco-fascist. I swear! But yeah you know...I do believe that electromagnetic pollution is a bad thing. And i think that 5G is going to have what McLuhan would call a rearview mirror effect like we won't know what it's gonna do until it's too late to do anything about it We've got shows like Utopia and The Feed, and Upload or something on Amazon Prime. There's all these TV shows basically commercials for Black Mirror for the dystopian future that could await us in five to ten years and people are just being entertained by it

32:19 Right i can have the same thoughts about stranger things because it starts off with them abusing eleven and she's in an mk ultra project in there cracking open other worlds talking to demons but then the later season like make sure stargate and mk all three exactly. Write a new letter seasons its like oh she got superpowers they didn't hurt her that bad she is now she's now able to save friends this cute Yeah, yeah. And you know Imperator Magazine was one of my first print publications apart from After Image and I remember the very end of it oh i was such a naive like 19-20 year old saying if only one day there is more awareness of MKUltra than maybe we could make in Netflix series about it and make millions of dollars while sexualizing

33:15 Barely pubescent kids. Did you notice that by the way? The media coverage of that show, they started calling the kids sexy when they were still like just 12 13 and 14 Like is that supposed to be normal does that make me a Nazi or right I'm not a right-winger or a Nazi I swear but like Just being against that, like is that not just natural? Yeah it doesn't make us prude to think that kids shouldn't be sexualized but this isn't new and it goes all the way back to Shirley Temple. Yeah yeah let's let kids be kids I am so glad that grew up in a world before social media In a world before the internet Before smartphones There's a sanctity and privacy That I believe is implied by The Fourth Amendment

34:08 that kids today the generation after zoomers especially will never even understand i forget it might have been kuhn had the term perceptual transcend. Yeah the thing that is jumped to cannot understand a bang did it jump from any more than vice versa, And that's what is coming in the next few generations. Kids will not understand the idea of privacy and alone time, and just being themselves. Social media adds all this pressure. That's another chapter in the book I do a whole chapter on how social media apps and YouTube... YouTube monetize- still monetizes! I would call it child abuse yeah

34:58 that chapter was the most eye opening to me cuz i've heard of elsa gate and i saw the daniel thosh thing and i thought that else again it was kinda just this, then where they would have these videos of like dripping vanilla ice cream on kids and yeah thats gross and its not technically wrong but it's imagery that is wrong. And what's even crazier is that other stuff you go into where they have... YouTube Wake Up. The literal like pedo grooming gangs Right, the hashtag was called YouTube Wake Up Tell People About This They're making these videos millions and billions of views Making massive money for YouTube and sometimes for these girls The channel that Daniel Tosh talked about

35:45 I hate that he's a better journalist than most of the people on CNN or Fox News. You know, because he has broken a couple stories like he was talking about Walmart recently and i'm like yes they are union busters now the YouTube wake up movement I was involved with that for a couple years there is a group exposing exploitation Academy awareness and I was hanging out with these guys, you know online and in discord and things and They were working towards raising awareness. And then the whole like Matt Watson thing came along and Then everybody thought it was about this Matt Watson guy even though the term groom to precedes YouTube wake up which proceeds Matt Watson and You know whatever you think of this one guy

36:33 At least he got New York Times to write a story about it. And then YouTube put a band-aid on it, they shut down the comment sections for kids but one of the channels that's mentioned in one of the stories that I cite Belong Kazar? In like Venezuela yeah it's in Venezuela you know very poor country this Venezuelan YouTube channel that advertised secret Well they didn't say secret, they said discrete bitcoin payment for special behind the scenes footage and they still have a join now button I checked a few months ago and they have a join now button so whether they've been demonetized or run ads i didnt watch the video but i checked to see if they were still there yes still getting millions of views

37:23 and they have a join now button in i should press it one day just to see what their tears are and what they cost at least. It is stomach turning stuff yes let me actually step in here and read a quote from the book where you're talking about this venezuelan, what are you doing factory yeah lockers are heres the quote you say Sources from within the beauty factories of Venezuela spoke of butt implants in some girls by age 12, of waists crushed into painful straps for weeks as well as intestines removed

38:02 by age 16, or painful mesh sewn into the tongue making eating painful. The head of the Belancazar Beauty Factory said that the average age for a girl to get a breast implant is sixteen." He said, "'To be a beauty queen, the breasts can't be too large or too flat.' Often the surgery is just to change slightly the shape or size. It also depends on which contest The girl wants to compete in. Insane! Uh-huh, yeah... And if you're gonna do that to your kid for money What wouldn't you do to your kid for money? That's something I didn't put in the book because I would consider that conjecture okay But just speaking frankly Yeah If you're gonna abuse your child like that Of course you'd sell them to some rich old man

38:55 It's disgusting. I'm not saying all these kids are trafficked, but i almost guarantee that a few of them are and even if they're only being trafficked by the beauty academy and YouTube and my own youtube yeah they're profiting off of this! I would call that trafficking... If you're perpetuating this And here is another weird thing I noticed They have live streams where they still allowed to have comments okay? So for some reason because it's not I guess they only shut it down for accounts owned by kids and four children. So number one then YouTube has decided this channel is not for children apparently you know its

39:41 They only act when they're made to. Right, YouTube should stop worrying about alternative journalist channels and conspiracy-ish channels and worry a little more about this kind of stuff Yeah! Facebook for instance. Facebook is so worried about fake news You wanna hear some real news that's been in New York Times and all the other major papers? Washington Posts whatever About 1 third to 2 thirds of all child grooming instances occur on either Facebook, WhatsApp or Instagram. Guess what? They're all owned by Zuckerberg! So in other words, the lion's share of all incidents of the beginning of child grooming occur on a Zuckerberg-owned platform. Wow! They kicked me off I think for the title my book because it's apparently a term used by QAnon people and they were banishing everything QAnon related

40:36 And I'm not even a QAnon person. I know some QAnon people, they're good people You know the ones i know anyway? I'm not gonna speak for the whole crew of any crew But apparently because of the title on my book that's what I'm guessing because they gave me No reason and no way to appeal They just booted me and it was the day after I'd made an author page So I'm pretty sure that was the reason but yeah! They should clean their own house They want to boot me for using this term, but maybe you should be more worried about the massive amounts of child abuse you're facilitating and profiting off. Amen man cheers to that and another case I wanted to try to fit into the first hour was JonBenet Ramsey because i don't think we've ever talked about it and it is quite a strange one. I've heard all sorts of theories if you watch the interviews with the parents something is definitely off

41:33 Some have suggested that her special needs brother might have killed her accidentally and the parents wanted to protect them. But that story can't hold up because they found the DNA of an adult male under her fingernails, and inside of her pajamas apparently quite gross but what are your thoughts on this case? And there was medical evidence of sexual abuse I think it will never know because the parents Whether the parents were guilty or not, I'll tell you what the parents are definitely guilty of. They're guilty of at least allowing their child to be abused multiple times possibly by multiple someones and she was sexually abused there's medical evidence that predates the murder so it wasn't even a new thing and yeah oh beyond that it is a really weird case

42:27 The thing they're most guilty of though, I think is the fact that we'll never know now. Because the cops and the preacher and his best friend Fleet, the industrialist... They were all guilty of exfoliation of evidence if nothing else! Including the cops who just stood there and watched And why did they wait like 12 to 13 hours to do the coroner's report? You know, there was so much wrong with that case. Two of the main sources for that chapter were Dave McGowan's Program To Kill and Stephen Singular's book on the subject. And Stephen Singular believes that the parents were innocent of the murder at least but that Joan Binet possibly through the father

43:17 Was being at least photographed for child pornography if not knowingly trafficked access graphics was his company and became a millionaire real quick and the amount of money that they asked for That the kidnappers asked for was exactly the same amount as the bonus. He just gotten you know I Oh and let's not even get, you know what his name is. The guy with the harp! You know I'll have to find it here Bill McReynolds? Bill McReynolds creepy old bill and bills wife Janet wrote the play Hey Rube which by the way it was also booked by Hunter S Thompson and I won't get into those theories today but Hey Rube was written in 1976 about a ritual murder one that actually happened Sylvia Lykins

44:11 But the date that happens on concurs with the rate of bill mcrenald's is daughter's friend. Kidnapping and rape yet twenty two years to the day the day after christmas, in the way she was posed in a play and there's just so many weird parallels also the guy had this heart apparently This is one of those things I had to like go to an archive, of an archive. To find the article because it had been scrubbed But yeah he... Had like names of all the children he loved who died too young It's like you shouldn't have that many names on your heart Mr Weird Man Who wanted Joan Benet ashes mixed with his ashes and glitter Dude! Oh yeah so yeah i believe there were probably multiple culprits in this case

45:02 And I don't know if she was trafficked, but I agree with Steven Singular that she was probably used for child pornography. And let me just add a couple of details here yeah when it comes to bill mcrenalds this is the guy who was a former university of colorado professor he dressed up as santa claus for the ramsay household three years in a row, he gave john bennett hard that read you will receive a special gift after christmas and then the day after christmas is the day that's twenty two years. After Reynolds middle daughter and her friend had been abducted and then you mentioned the ramsay right there on the equinox or solstice whichever it is, yeah yes i mean you mentioned the father of john bennett ramsey. And he had this company military intelligence connections yet yes his company was a subsidiary of lockheed martin

46:02 in nineteen ninety six grossed over a billion dollars jenna's daughter is killed and the next year he sells the company to general electric what did you do by the way nobody ever written but he did get that billion dollars right and just the fact that we have this crazy sale of his company a year later it's almost like i was told Hey, the money needs to get funneled this way or sell the company like it's just this military intelligence tech company corporate espionage that is all circling around this case that raises all kinds of red flags. Same kind of thing you see with the finders called backlit

46:39 And the finders cult is the only case where we have definitive proof of CIA involvement, right? But yeah. Children of God, Scientology... Maybe even Joan Benet Ramsey I believe there's a possible military intelligence connection By connection i mean there are at least spooks involved You know, I don't mean it's a spook operation and by spook you could be a fed or not and still be a spook. If you are knowingly an agent of the state or whatever you want to call it because at the top I don't think they considered us state but at the top there is this interstice of certain occult secret societies of the cult of national security

47:29 And these old money families that keep marrying into each other and having famous people. You know how like Bill Gates and Ellen DeGeneres are both cousins by way of Rockefeller? Wow, that's crazy! They just came up from nothing but Rockefeller blood Of course Yeah But the Joan Bonet case I will never know And I do mainly blame the parents and the police, which is why Stephen Singler makes a good case for multiple prominent people in Boulder and elsewhere being involved in the abuse. Not just her but like a whole child abuse racket ring. It's never just child pornography because they have to abuse the child so yes we'll call it a child abuse ring

48:25 But yeah, Steven Singular true crime author makes a pretty good case for the fact that it looks like there was some cover up. It looks like powerful people may have been involved but he feels the parents are innocent and you know what? I do tend to sort of agree i don't think that mr ramsay was like hey i'm gonna sacrifice my daughter. No he just made a billion dollars way too quick and then it was in over his head and had to pay the piper right that's kinda my impression to is i think this cause the parents pain but also think they're aware of something larger that they won't talk about

49:07 And then the cops helped cover it up, you know? Like let him rip off the duct tape and touch the body and do all this stuff. And the fact that nobody found her for so long when she was right in the house... How long was it? Oh my gosh, it was several hours I know. Yeah and they just had a big party with like a lot of the elite of the Boulder community which was like as Singular tells it there were few unsavory folks who had connections to a few of the movers and shakers of Boulder that era.

49:47 Wild man and then if we were to move on to a nother section of your book that i found really fascinating you mentioned the site, the satanic panic a couple times but the reason why people tended dismissed this is because of the false memory syndrome foundation which is another rabbit hole that's worth going into. Oh yeah the tricky thing about the satanic panic is it is partly bunk It is laughable, you know what I mean? Like there were people who really thought that don't let your kids watch the karate kid fundamentalist preachers told their congregations who listen to Who to vote for and what to watch on TV And then they wouldn't let their kid do karate because Karate is the occult and the occult leads straight to Satan You know so you know there is a lot of hogwash. I believe in satanic panic

50:40 but there are definitely cases of ritual abuse and I find it really weird that the FBI Their classification for ritual abuse makes it basically impossible for it to occur So, yeah if you want to play that game sure But no. I believe there are cases of ritual abuse whether its satanic or not so many serial killers like A good majority of the most famous serial killers were involved in the cult in some way, you know had an interest or dabbled in the occult. But yeah as far as The False Memory Syndrome Foundation once again we've got this weird mix of XMK Ultra researchers influential academics and alleged child pornographer a proud pedophile Ralph Underwager

51:37 hundreds of cases, he was an expert witness on child abuse cases for the defense of course. Now, he's also on the record saying that two-thirds of women and girls who say that they were raped or abused are wrong and then 60 something percent of them that were abused It was actually good for them. He believes this! He also said in Pateka, which there's a Dutch journal of pedophilia and actual academic journal for pedophilia and he interviewed for it And he said that pedophilia sex with children was a way to get closer to God

52:19 This guy was a theologian, he was an academic and he was an expert witness. And he was also one of the founding members of VOCAL, Victims Of Child Abuse Laws which was a group that in Florida they were lobbying against mandatory reporting by authorities like priests and school teachers you know see something say something? Like imagine being against that! You know I don't want that guy on my side Now, Payticka was a bridge too far for Underwogger. When he said that having sex with kids gets you closer to God the False Memory Syndrome Foundation said to him, You know, you've got to renounce that statement and his reply was No I don't believe there's scientific evidence that bears out Sex with children hurts them Yikes!

53:12 And so he stepped down or was kicked out. I don't recall at the moment, but that's Ralph Underwager, The Eberlees who I briefly mentioned before, the politics of child abuse. The LAPD was chasing them for child pornography One extant issue of their magazine Finger apparently in this letters section they're letters from once again proud pedophiles saying that they love their stories there's really blatant racism and hey rape fantasy if that's your thing and you keep it to yourself that's fine

53:50 But like, it definitely... this magazine that they had drew in a lot of pedophiles and people into rape and incest fantasy. And I think a lot of the stuff was drawn but apparently there were also photos but the LAPD could never pin it on them! You know? Something I didn't get into in the book but Tom O'Neill's book Chaos The Secret History Of LSD In The 60s is basically a rehash of McGowan honestly But it's really good to get into if you want to learn more about the possibility of Charles Manson trafficking and protection by the cops, and maybe even feds. You know John Langese that is another case where you have a serial killer

54:38 Who years after the fact they're like, oh now we have WGN. Now we have evidence he may have been trafficking some of these kids and one of the parents was like yeah They never let me see my kid's dead body Which is so weird because the same thing happened to one or two of the girls who were victims of The Beast Of Belgium Mark Dutrow So many of these cases, there's so many similarities that yes it does start to seem like a pattern. It does start to seem like a network and a few these networks have been exposed some are low level like the Wonderland child porn ring thats low-level nobodies and then once in awhile you'll have a Epstein or Finders cult or Franklin scandal that embroils some heavy hitters Once in awhile Dennis Haster gets told on

55:31 Wikipedia, my whole Franklin scandal chapter a lot of that's taken from Nick Bryant who has done excellent work. Nick Bryant spoke on the Franklin scandal and Wikipedia is so mean to him if you check the wikipedia talk page which I'm a geek so i do You know they don't think that nick bryant is a reliable or credible source which is weird because vanity fair. When they wanted to do story about epstein there like let's get nick bryant yeah he's one of the best you know and vanity fair is credible so by the community property you see them saying,

56:10 I think that's why what makes it so easy for the satanic panic thing to set in which It's a great way to hand wave things away. You know, oh look how ridiculous that is and I'm not a big fan of Alex Jones The reason why I'm on your show add out Alex Jones would be interested in me because I can't sell water filters for one but you know, I feel like you're the real deal William Ramsey at opera menu and The folks I've interviewed with so far, you guys have one thing in common the three of you. You know? I don't agree with you on everything...the three of ya! But i respect you and believe that YOU believe what you believe. Ya know what im sayin'? I believe that your not intentionally leading people astray. I believe that your not just in it for the money

57:00 But that you really believe what you believe and are trying to help people, you know? Cheers. So yeah! Yeah cheers for sure though yeah but I understand the satanic panic fears i understand QAnon Pizzagate And hey...I bet some of that stuff is so because we don't know what was on those Epstein tapes because they disappeared except for the one that wasn't working, you know So like it's obvious that there's people who do these things and they're good at hiding things But I almost feel sometimes These blips we see are just for you and me in our listeners Of course just for the folks who are paying attention. Yeah, just like hey look nobody cares

57:47 Here i am quoting pop culture again like a normie liberal but you know look nobody cares that's what it is he blips once in awhile but nobody cares. That's and that's and we got dots in here so let me ask you this is the reason that you live in the philippines does not have anything to do with doing this work They can get you wherever you're at, but it does feel safer being 9000 miles away. You know? Yeah I mean how'd you end up out there? You sound like your from Tennessee! Oh yeah yeah i am from Tennessee now the folks with the Goldwater and by the way I was watching one of your videos and you're pointing out how likely you are to be demonetized and de-platformed

58:38 Let me just real quick, Tora3.com that's some of the folks I work for The Goldwater and Tora3.com Tora 3 you know you can do live streaming and you can do video sharing which there is BitChute does one and then go to Chinese owned DLive or Chinese owned Trovo for the other But if you don't want to support Tencent, there's tora3.com and yeah so it all started oddly enough with a BuzzFeed story yes I read a Buzzfeed story i'll admit that hurt more than saying that I've done acid okay that's over with then but yeah as I start with the BuzzFeed Story 8chan has created a news service for trolls

59:30 and I'm like, count me in! You know? And so next thing you know i'm calling into a YouTube show. And Major Burdock... of course that's not his real name Major Burdock says I'd like to have tea with that guy, and next thing you know i'm in the Philippines. And once again I would like to stress as my boss once said in an interview, I am not in the CIA but I will add to my knowledge I like it i like it right now man well this is been a wild ride for sure you gave us a lot of good information and crash course on many new stories or stories we haven't. Delved into at such depth so i appreciate it and,

1:00:22 Is there anything else you wanna say about what you're planning next or links, or anything? The next book... I don't really know which will come out. Like i said the one's more of a mammoth and the book im working on right now that i'm doing the reading and note taking for right now You know, idk which will come out first but i got two books in the works And then after that then I've got like tons of drafts and notes related to like kratom and biohacking in nootropics And after I've got my three para-political books done, then I want to finish those because I will need a break from thinking about the Hall of Mirrors. Let me go back to learning how like what neurotransmitters do and what herbs were used by what cultures and what stories they came up about them and that kind of thing."

1:01:21 Mm-hmm. And is there anything you want to tell people about following you online or links together? Oh, yeah Well, I'm not on Facebook anymore and pretty sure that's because of the title of the book But you can go to Phil Fairbanks calm PH IL fair banks spelled just like Alaska Or as in that thing that doesn't exist Like if it was a fair bank they'd be at a business though right so fill fair banks comm then you can also find me at Kafka guy like the Czech author KaFkaGuy. That was my first internet handle and I don't know if that's why my life is Kafkaesque, and i don't know if I would have choosed a different handle If I'd known like dude your life will be Kafkaesque if you call yourself Kafka Guy but yeah I'm at Kafka Guy on Twitter

1:02:20 Gab I'm the goldwater underscore Phil. I'm on me we under my own name I think I'm on mines calm also as Kafka guy and then on YouTube nobody can spell it ever quenched Krieg Kinopix studios and quenched Krieg as in art war and Because you know that's one of the subjects I'm really interested in is that interstice of artists and authors being drawn into a cult secret societies and The intelligence world and used for the intelligence world, but yeah So phil fairbanks calm at Kafka guy at Twitter Philip Fairbanks with 1l on me way And I think I'm also at Kafka guy on Mines which I haven't been using much

1:03:13 But we'll probably start using again soon and kunstkrieg kino pics. Good luck because i've noticed sometimes I look for my videos and i'll spell kunstkrieg And I know how to spell it and i'll still have to scroll and scroll and scroll before and i'm like None of those videos you recommended to me had kunstkrieg in it because I came up with that term Or, I thought I did there's actually a german book about The CIA's involvement in modern art that was called kunshkrieg but i was using it first i swear i think i got proof somewhere. Yeah right on man ah well solid you really do good work its a very dark subject but people can't keep living in the dark its easy to turn a blind eye to this stuff, if u think is uncomfortable to talk about imagine living through some of the stuff exactly

1:04:07 And sunlight is the best disinfectant. And remember, the insular communities and feeling that you can't speak don't contribute to the culture that scoffs at the idea of possibility The false memory syndrome foundation for instance, and the satanic panic. And even QAnon as well meaning as it might have been led a lot of normies to be like any situation of organized pedophilia they're gonna scoff at instantly because some people, and like I said that's why i try to stick with the verifieds there may be more. Im not saying theres not more im just saying if we dont stop preaching to the choir

1:04:56 We gotta start small and wake people up, and hopefully it'll be less insular, less normalized to sexualized teens like with the Cuties movie or the Toddlers in Tierras and Stranger Things. Right! But man... Yeah we gotta talk about it until we get some sort of justice sad as it is thanks for being brave enough to do the work man keep fighting the good fight and take care out there Hey, I appreciate you for having me on and like i said. I don't know which book will be next but I can't wait to send you a copy! Haha, look forward to it Thanks again You got it Yikes ladies and gentlemen yikes indeed this is one of those subject areas that I definitely think is important to return too But the consequences for covering this sort of stuff are getting a bit more severe crazy right?

1:05:51 You would think this is one of the few things that could unite everyone except for the actual perpetrators, but whatever. It's important so we go where we go and it's really unfortunate that child trafficking and institutionalized child abuse are topics that got coupled the hardest with QAnon But we know this is how they work, right? If something starts to get exposed to the point that it's not as easy to contain as it once was then they go completely over-the-top in the other direction. To the point that the general public dismisses it as crazy! Here we are trying to wrestle it from the q and on residue as we do a dirty job that must be done call me the micro of conspiracy podcasting. Because as we do start to see q and i'm fizzle out at least maybe i'm just being hopeful but i don't wanna see the child abuse awareness component is allowed with it,

1:06:48 But Philip hit me up and said he'd been listening for a long time. He wrote this new book, and wanted to get the word out And I thought it was something that we hadn't talked about for awhile now? I also considered some of the threads that he follows to be lesser known...and I liked his accent! Something about his accent and cadence i found to be very listenable So we did it! I appreciate his dedication to the work, and hope that we can help his book reach a larger audience Some of the Victorian era stuff was really interesting and it's tough to know anything for sure because of the time depth alone, but I also think about the personalities and qualities of a lot of people who get famous writing material for kids. And yeah they are the softer fellas big warm fuzzy heart Mr Rogers types

1:07:39 And there's nothing wrong with that, but unfortunately when you look at the archetype of a person who was abused when they were young and then turns into a pedophile later in life some of those qualities do overlap. Obviously there are good natured children's story authors out there, but it can be hard to get right. And I do sort of recoil when i hear unverified accusations because I've seen many people make all sorts of inaccurate accusations and once the claims are out there It soils a person's name and sometimes when there is no merit at all its just something to be careful of we don't want to do more harm than good

1:08:20 And of course I'm not really talking about anything specific in today's show, just the severity of these sorts of claims in general and how important it is to be really sure before we say anything about a person being involved at all with this sort of stuff. It just sucks because we know that we don't have open and honest investigations in this area We see time and time again that when one person gets caught it starts unfolding into a larger network and then the hammer comes down they cauterize around the burnt part and seal off the rest. So by definition, a lot of these things are quote-unquote speculation. I mean technically it's speculation to talk about the Franklin scandal as if it was a real case because the people involved were found not guilty and the actual victims—the kids—were sentenced for perjury! I'm sure most of you know that but it is what makes the Franklin scandal the craziest case of all

1:09:18 And when you see so much funny business, you're kind of left to draw your own conclusions. Just don't fall into the trap of everything looking like a nail when you're swinging that hammer! So yeah guys... A return to the darkness The next show is going to be a little bit lighter I assure you but also fascinating and also a lot more relevant to your individual lives But i appreciate Phil's time and his efforts and the kind things he had to say about the show The first hour of today's episode contained a lot of added layers to things we've talked about before, and the JonBenet case which I don't think we've ever really focused much on. But then in the second hour for Plus Members we got into the nuances of the Epstein-Maxwell situation... ...the Hunter S Thompson stories! Which by the way, I didn't go back and read the original Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas but I rewatched the Lucy scene in the movie? And it is fucked up

1:10:17 When I was 16, I guess it didn't register the same way. But find it on YouTube if you're at all curious because it's not cool! That's what makes me so sad when i was a young kid trying to find heroes trying to find people who were. Speaking truth the power or being very raw and just not conforming to consensus reality, hunter s thompson was one of those guys that i kind of thought yeah fuck yeah man this guy he got some interesting things to say same with robert anton wilson same with timothy leary

1:10:55 I don't know if they are connected to some kind of intelligence network a lot of these people have their own demons as well, they say never meet your heroes i guess we can add don't look too deeply into their connections or the. Dark corners of their lives because you'll probably be disappointed to live and learn right We also talked about crimes of the cloth and religious organization scandals, as well as the 7th Floor Group and a few other interesting things. It's really sad that we could say that we've probably done over a dozen shows on child abuse scandals and lack of justice, but there is still no shortage of material

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