Nassim Haramein | The Consciousness Field, ARK Crystals, & The Hollow Earth

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01:29 Here we go people, riding another wave of universal mystery and intrigue. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood And I say mystery and intrigue because when we remove ourselves from concrete cities traffic jams the not so pleasant sight sounds and smells that grace most of our major metropoli We do see the magical self-organizing beauty and connectedness of the natural world Yet the egotistic sages of the scientific method try to break this all down into separate systems. Biology, chemistry, physics, quantum mechanics, genetics... And it's this sectioning off that has largely kept us from seizing the opportunity To look at our universe holistically The way it should be seen The way it works

02:16 Though I like to think our understanding is a lot further down the road than some crusty academics who are still clinging to a mechanical, materialist model and debating if consciousness is even a thing. It's a sad and backwards place for modern civilization's so-called brightest minds because it's so wrong and so archaic that I have a hard time even accepting this as what they actually believe But if they keep us glued to Netflix and baseball, bank accounts and mimosa brunch who's really taken the time to hold their feet to the fire or develop their own personal relationship with a truly entangled universe? Well todays powerhouse guest Nassim Haramein is certainly someone who is as he has developed his own unified physics and holistic science that has been dubbed The Holo-Fracto-Graphic Unified Field Theory.

03:04 It's a poetic worldview that is as much an art and philosophy as it is science, and with it comes a wide range of explanations and answers to the stranger aspects of the world that mainstream model just ignores. The power of intention, the fundamental importance of sacred geometry and the flower of life. The understanding of reality held by ancient civilizations all over the globe. Epigenetics, psi effects, placebo effect, entheogenic experience, the power of meditation, alternative methods of travel and off the books energy sources, remote viewing, astral travel and a whole pandora's box of things academia dare not touch but are no less valid as verified pieces of this weird world.

03:47 You might remember a previous episode we had dedicated to Nassim's work with the passionate advocate running the HoloFractal subreddit known as holofractaljoe, which definitely works to help set up today and proves my intention muscles must be working just fine. As now we have the man himself! Of course, you can always learn more about this stuff at the Resonance Science Foundation where you can dig into a ton of high-level content videos articles fully developed courses and even join in on travel adventures to the world's most interesting locations and sacred sites So let's get this thing going here. The man who knows the plan, the mystery decoder and brain overloader, the sacred geometry Jesus and the father of hollow fractographic goodness Nassim welcome to The Higher Side. Hello it's great to be on

04:38 Thank you man this is a real pleasure i'm really glad to have you here. You have a contagious passion for life and you really do seem to embody the science and philosophy that you talk about as I mentioned we had done a show about your work before, i don't want to start off too fundamental We won't get to the advanced stuff if we do that but i gotta get the wheels moving somehow maybe you can start by telling us a little more about the major principles behind your work in a little bout how you uncovered it Well, I think if i was to identify one of the most fundamental principles behind my work it would be that you can divide things to infinitium and

05:21 And when you get down to the really, really tiny, you're basically talking about electromagnetic field that are fluctuating in the structure of space. So the basic principle is that space is not empty. Space is full, that we are swimming in an ether and that this energy is the source of all matter, and forces in the universe. And most likely the source of what we call consciousness as well. I got to that at a very young age when i was contemplating the foundation of reality. I was trying to figure out how things go together or how things got organized

06:12 the bees and flowers then get put on different planets but they got put on the same planet because they need each other you know like how did nature organize that seem contrary to entropy to disorganization it seemed contrary to universe that was just The result of random fluctuations due to an explosion i felt like there was an organizing principle and i look for it well said. So we know the conventional models are a mess having two disconnected models for small and large things makes no sense but,

06:48 When you break down your work you make it all seem so connected and so obvious i just wonder if everything is entangled and its alright there in front of us why don't the scientists studying the world stumble upon this reality is a more ignorance or is there some kind of cover up. Ok well, I would say most likely it's a little bit of both. They did stumble upon it, the problem is there was a lot of stumbling along the way and historically some of the discoveries that needed to be put together were

07:23 spread apart from so much time distance that by the time these new discoveries occurred, the old one had taken hold and the fundamental split in physics happened. And what I mean by that is early on maxwell when you're old what is known as the maxwell's equation now for the electromagnetic field assume a fundamental ether he assumed that space time. Our space was filled with this substance fluid like substance of energy,

08:04 and that electromagnetic waves were the result of fluctuations in that energy. And he wrote these equations then, you know describing basically little vortices as electromagnetic fluctuation of this luminous ether energy and his equations were very successful and they give all the right answers except that they were very complex to solve fluid dynamics equation and quaternions were a little complex. People, as a result of experiments that were actually not complete experiments, Markkelson and Marley and others felt like it was... And as a result of Einstein field equation felt like the fundamental ether needed to be removed and replaced with space-time which

09:00 Was the conceptual notion of the structure space this conceptual motion mathematically did not require that we assign it a physical. So space time was like a concept in the clouds that basically you know then just with a way to calculate gravity and wait to calculate the curvature of space time to define gravity. but space time was not ever defined what is based on like what do you mean space and time is curving, no if it's curving in must be something but that something was never defined the concept got worse with the event of quantum theory which

09:52 Of course Max Planck was the father of but actually was partly fathered by Einstein himself and with the photoelectric effect where he defines photons, and got the Nobel Prize for that. People are not necessarily clear that actually Einstein was part of fathering quantum mechanics but I went to that event even further Fundamental models of mechanics were abandoned and physics became more and more mathematical and more and more conceptual and less and less attached to reality.

10:33 And as they stumbled the found that all my god particles can be entangled in this truck show space time at the quantum scale so space time and the quantum scale must be completely different than and then they couldn't. reconcile gravity are in science equations for space time at the universal level of the stars and galaxy and planet level where quantum mechanics which said that space time was very very strange at the quantum scale And so this division happened. And although Einstein, when the division happened, Einstein felt this can't be right he felt like there must be a solution and later in his life you realize that the solution was to reintroduce the ether which

11:29 In some bizarre way had been found i'm just giving you all the stumbling had been found in quantum field theory so as quantum physics developed and it got deeper and deeper and equations eventually quantum field theory was written by very good physicist called paul durack, when do rack. Got into the nitty gritty of space at the quantum scale you realize that space was full of energy. and that space which is called vacuum fluctuations, is quantized and it produces particles that are called virtual particles not because they're not existing just because they exist very shortly in our reality. But because now physics had gone in such different ways between quantum field theory and relativity

12:27 That was never reconciled meaning the ether and vacuum fluctuation were never put back together. Until recently where people like me and others for instance frank will check that did an amazing talk in two thousand seventeen i believe it to be one of the most significant dog from the mainstream Physics community in a hundred years of physics that is called the materiality of the vacuum if people wanna look it up on youtube they can watch it's layman talk by frank will check which is nobel prize winner and physics.

13:06 which clearly define the history of the ether and show that vacuum fluctuations in the ether are the same thing and show that these should not have been separated, that they either has to be put back into their physics and thats the solution to unifying physics. Of course I've been on that path for over 30 years and i solve these equations you know it's recent the domain stream is acknowledging this error that happened in physics so that was a big big stumble, that einstein tried to repair but by the time he tried to repair it was too late they were not listening to him anymore. They felt like he had abandoned quantum physics and that she was going against it

13:52 And so the history books really portrays einstein that producing this incredible work in a few years where you wrote special relativity and general relativity but then not being very prolific or no contributing very much after and it's it's really not correct. That seems to happen a lot where we have these bright minds these people we have to remember through history and then the further they go down the rabbit hole than later in their life, we have in there by free oh and then they went nuts that may wait crazy after certain age nothing they looked at matter anymore how is all nonsense exactly it's remarkable it seems like. Did you did the same thing to the rack were direct at the end of his life wrote

14:39 very very important theory called the large number and hypothesis was probably one of the best mathematical physicist on the planet ever is amazing physicist you know he was the head of cambridge i mean like, Although he had all these you know title and results behind him when the road. The large number i pot this is which was really close to solving all this and my theory finishes it here with

15:16 Thought to have been doing numerology they accused him of doing numerology i've been too old you know and the crip it to think properly, and that's so sad because it really removes. I'm gonna dare to use the word magic removes the magic of Creativity and amazing discoveries that you know just pass by his story. And got us in a little bit of the mess that we are in today now on the other side of this stumbling there is because you know the military industrial complex should not be underestimated they have large budgets and a lot of scientists

16:10 They are quite capable of exploring things that are not necessarily available to the mainstream scientific community because of the restrictions of their position in the university's and so on which is not present, end the military industrial complex where they encouraged you be creative and come up with new stuff so. There is, I believe a clear understanding for certain amount of time certainly since Tesla and maybe before that there is energy foundation to the structure of space-time. That this energy can be tapped into that this energy can be manipulated to produce gravitational effects or other effects

16:59 How far they have gone down that rabbit hole and been successful in doing that well you know there are still restricted from their education and their mind so i don't know how far they were able to go but certainly, i think that there is a much larger opening in that section and that has been very deliberate let's say level of suppression and censoring this type of information in the open mainstream community well said i think that a great history lesson it is a messy road no doubt and great point about the military industrial complex and there's also cia documents that show that they look at some very weird things

17:49 they would just tell us or nonsense so i think those are important things to point out and i wanted to ask you about consciousness because of course that's another huge buzzword right now but you talk about it in a pretty interesting way I think this refers to the unified space memory network will you talk about consciousness as a field that reinforces itself and informs itself through experience can elaborate on that. Well yes so basically i looked at this fundamental energy structure of the vacuum fluctuation of this ether, this energy that's present in space everywhere and people might say well what is he talking about spaces empty it's clearly empty.

18:28 Well think about it this way like the space around you is full of electromagnetic fields and you think. You know you don't feel them you don't see them inside of the range of your central body so, no you don't know that's there like friends in the radio waves are all around you to infrared and you know they're ultraviolet The background radiation from the galaxy is all around you know i mean there's also electromagnetic fluctuations are on you and let's do put a little crystal on their end unit with an electronic sync circuit tap into the radio waves.

19:09 You know and hear the radio set come on you don't necessarily know that there is a radio station that's broadcasting the football game right. And so just like that you can imagine that there is a broadcast thats happening in the vacuum, that is the universal broadcast That is the you know the radio station of creation if you'd like and that radio station is exchanging bits of information and so I found a bit size.

19:47 I finally found the bit size it had been found by max plunk but it was not apply. To the structure of space time because it was thought to be quantum mechanics and space time is relativity and that you were not to be mixed so i applied the grain size, which i call planks spherical units to the structure of space time and realize that space time is basically these little bits now these bits are really old there billions and billions and billions of times smaller than a nato, you can think of it as little spinners little board season spacetime. And so you can't think of it has like information in the structure of space that's being exchanged through this medium

20:34 And I use these equations. Try to figure out ok well out of this exchange of information can i. I'll put a proton cannot put an electron can i get an atom can i get a table of elements can i get, the size of the universe can i get the mass of the universe can i get the temperature of the universe you know all these things and they all came out but that i'm just gonna say straight up didn't come out approximately right became out Extremely correct. Okay, extremely correct to the point that I actually it looked wrong for the proton is one instant where it looked wrong It looked like the mass was extremely correct but the radius was 4% smaller than what was measured at the time. I published in 2012

21:30 And you know, with this new radius for the proton and said that maybe experiments would confirm it. I didn't know in Switzerland in an accelerator they were in the middle of making doing experiments to measure the radius of the proton more precisely They ended up with a radius that was 4% smaller exactly what I had predicted. And you know its thrown a monkey wrench on the standard model and so on It came up with the right answer. We just published for the universe, the mass of the universe no need for dark energy, no need for dark matter it gives the right answer for everything its remarkable for the forces and everything this song publish I just saw for superclusters clusters galaxy

22:17 I mean it's unbelievable and all it is, a fairly simple equation that describes the information exchange in this ether structure and how it produces boundaries at different scales. So basically there's an exchange between the inside of the volume of the system and outside And this exchange produces an energy effect that we call mass. And of course, mass is equivalent to energy right? E equals mc squared and the c is the speed of light so now it explains the speed of light, it explains mass which we don't know what it is in normal physics

23:03 So all of a sudden since we now know what mass and speed of light is, it explains energy. And when you think about energy, you think systems that are organizing because of energy effects What we see in biology what we see on our planet what we seen our body which is extremely complex a hundred trillion cells each made out of hundred trillion atoms you know that function perfectly and all this, those are all self organizing energy effects that you can't accommodate with the idea that stuff.

23:43 Is just bumping into each other like with some kind of miracle that makes it like a bunch in to each other just right continuously create, show that your arm doesn't fall off so how does it self organize well because there's an exchange of information you have feedback. Between the field and the system when you have feedback yourself organizing geometry it's called fractal systems equations that feed back on itself that produce high level of coherency high level of complexity very very quickly, end so basically use start to take wait a minute.

24:26 Consciousness then is the result of feedback in the structure space time it's the universe learning about itself and like the whole thing on. and you start to write equations that comes out and make sense in life all the sudden realize like we're all like little probes of space time learning about ourself and as a result, you know informing the universe. the universe is learning through all of the biological structures at the very fine edge of the fractal structure of the boundary event horizon created by this structure of information.

25:11 Wow well i think that's a nice little private for people for sure it's deep and complex stuff but you know we've been learning a lot about things such as structured water frequency the electromagnetic field of the body and how important this stuff really is even though we don't see it. I wanted to ask you about these are crystal pendants your producing website says, Art crystals are a revolutionary technology that greatly boosts the body's natural ability to attune with the vitalistic and expansive zero-point field of the quantum vacuum. The quantum vacuum represents the revolutionary understanding in modern physics that space is not empty, on the contrary it's one thing that connects all things." So these art crystals...it sounds pretty

25:56 pretty amazing but they also are quite expensive at a thousand dollars. But tell us about these things what do they do why are they so unique and important? So of course you know as I wrote these equations over the years, over 30 years i started to think okay well you know these equations are clearly telling me how this all works You know what stop us from making technology that does the same thing as nature meeting meaning if nature is exchanging information with the field and since technologies made out of the field like the equation basically says that all atoms are like little more disease on the field then of course it's a direct

26:46 thought or direct path to like ok well let's use the little more disease of the field that we call atoms in the right way, create a larger order see in the field right like. connect with the field directly. If we could, that would be amazing when you calculate how much energy there is in the field and the vacuum fluctuation it's insane! In a centimeter cube of space there is 10 to the 93 grams per centimeter cube like this called a Planck density It's insanely dense in energy if we extract them

27:28 One billion to the percent of the energy in a centimeter cube space we would have an energy enough energy on that, extraction to run the planet for thousands of years like the master universe is ten fifty five so this is thirty nine orders of magnitude larger. Then the mass the universe in terms of energy in the same cube of space People might say why can't i feel it well you know the example of the radio waves is the answer so now you can imagine that I start to think wow ok how can i do this what are my equations telling me about how to engineer a device like extract or interact with vacuum. Clearly you would need really good oscillator, well whats a good oscillator?

28:22 Crystal right crystals are using all of our technology because they're really really good oscillators we have little chips that have no way for the crystal in there that we also late at very high frequency and so on so. Clearly crystals would be one of the elements you would want to pick to try to create a resonance match to the vacuum structure. And then plasma and all these other things, okay? It gets more complex but you can imagine...and I figured out a way to create enough coherency in a crystal metric

29:02 that i can make a crystal that is very special crystal get the little bit bumped around get a little bit oscillated by the vacuum fluctuation more than normal so that it starts to emit a little bit of energy now You know until recently it was hard for me to prove it directly because i could see the effect on things like a good city effective the crystals after i treated it, on the water structure france and say would change the water structure with energize the water what self ionized the water would make the water over sudden changes phm

29:46 Which means that thousands and thousands of millions of negative ions have been added to the water as a result of exposure to this little crystal. But recently I was able, and we're going to publish this soon, I was actually measure the photon emission from these crystals And yes they are expensive because they are very difficult to build So i am in nineteen ninety nine i was able to produce a few of these crystals but it took me until two years ago, until i could produce them and quantities because the technology which is not present on the planet to make large number of these crystals they take.

30:30 years to grow they have to be cut very precisely and all this so, this is why you know they're not just like a crystal I pick out of the mine and treat them a little bit then they go to you. So that's why they're a little more expensive i'm sure these prices eventually will be able to be reduced but like any new technology, that requires very high level of cutting edge technology to produce you know they are very expensive to produce but we are now able to measure photon emissions.

31:07 that are being emitted by the vertices of the crystal. We have now understood the mechanism in which it's affecting the water molecules and various elements around it, and so it is very exciting because we're able to demonstrate that were extracting a little bit, very little but a little bit of energy from the vacuum Add the result is that the material world around us get a little energized from it. And water is seventy five percent of your body content eighty percent of your brain so if you're water gets energized a little bit then that means everything runs a little better that means that maybe there's better communication between cells that means you know i love consequences to help we apply this

32:04 concept to plants for instance we charge water applied it to plants, we see right away plants growing you know 200-300% to 400% faster. You know so they grow much faster four times faster all of a sudden they produce much more seeds the fruits are much larger they have much more mineral content and much more resistant to pathogens and so if If we see all that in plants it stands to reason that its good for humans as well. These things seem way more valuable than green paper anyway but economics makes people skeptical of almost everything unfortunately and i know you've been granted a patent on this and some of these diagrams i was looking at they seem kinda like the shape of a flying saucer in this idea of plasma and rotation seems to be central to both

33:03 energy devices and potential modes of travel. I mean, these are the things people are talking about to me it's always in that same wheelhouse? Are these things related or am i crazy?" No that's correct and you know it might seem like way out there for most people that like you know maybe we would have gravity control, flying saucer type of things. You know maybe in the very far future I assure you that this level of technology is at our doorstep And it's not just coming from my laboratories, there are many other labs around the world working on this. I think we're finally getting to the place where we'll be... Just like in earlier history, we learned how to control electromagnetic fields

33:53 And by the mirror control of magnetic and electric fields we basically produce our whole advanced society, what's the next step for you to learn to control gravitational field switch are weird now starting to understand how they work. And that will give us gravity control so that we can travel in our solar system, in our galaxy and not be doing it on fossil fuel. It will change as well everything if we extract energy from the vacuum to control gravitational fields of course we can run all over society on this energy as well So you can start to imagine running your car or your house

34:41 On like an oscillating crystal that is producing you know significant amount of energy directly out of the structure space time i mean this is all around the corner and no time crystals there's also just stop that happening in many different levels. I'm not just you know bleeding edge laboratories like mine but as well into the mainstream that is really leading us down this road and most importantly to the unification of physics and understanding of consciousness.

35:17 Great points yes in terms of travel it seems pretty clear rocketry isn't gonna get us anywhere i'm skeptical that ever had and you have said that we can control gravity via rotating plasma this is in the mix of so many, use a terry documents that seem to pop up on the internet but its definitely a theme. And we also hear a lot of talk about bio photons and we've heard terms like the light body when we're talking about, you know biological life. But there is something curious to this connection between light and consciousness or even the sun in our human bodies? How do you understand this relationship between light and consciousness or the sun and the human body right well Like I was saying earlier i mean light is electromagnetic fields

36:07 Clearly, the original equations from Maxwell define light as a result of this vacuum fluctuation or this ether oscillating. That was the correct answer! The fact that the equations were eventually linearized by Heaviside and others and that the vacuum fluctuation or the ether was removed is not relevant because clearly it led us down the wrong road now if we reestablish our understanding i mean the wrong road let me just qualify that at least you know kind of a little detour

36:46 what we understand about electromagnetic field is limited by this detour way to and now we're starting to see yes these fluctuations of the vacuum which are electromagnetic fluctuation remember the radio set the radio broadcast of the universe is most likely the radio station that produces, the event we call consciousness in which it's not produced by the brain but that the brain and a whole body in fact is like an antenna tune to that frequency.

37:22 and it's receiving and emitting information. So, it's not just a receiver but it's a transceiver. And so you know light that we see so the visible light the electromagnetic fields emitted by the sun is really let's just say it's like phase or function of the vacuum fluctuation It's the vacuum fluctuation at fairly slow slow frequency that we see and that we experience. And those vacuum fluctuations at that frequency will start to create self-organizing systems, you know? They just discovered this was published very recently that actually black holes which are huge electromagnetic emitters, they're the brightest electromagnetic

38:17 Places in the universe are the fundamental elements these electromagnetic fluctuation not actually destructive. Did you discover that there are the elements that actually would be necessary to produce life so our son and, the galactic center, you know which is a huge black hole. The stars and all this are really just life-giving systems that are life giving because they create organization in the structure of space time so and then our body or the result of this organization which is smaller vortices smaller little

39:02 spinners in space-time that self organize and so we really are electromagnetic at the foundation of us. And then there's electric exchange so you can think of it as different resolution like imagine being a light body at the quantum scale of like the plonk feel like we below the atom and then, you know imagine like the dampening up this spinners right creating like larger water sees. Organize little water season space that we call protons and electrons in the end so now you have an electric charge there's a lecture charge that six changing and that, we see as chemistry and then the chemistry exchange of these electric charge produce self organizing system that we called biology. You say it's like it just down stepping up the energy

40:02 energy levels in which we experience the world that like these other energy level three are two high and frequency and subtle for us to directly observe. Well said i think that makes a lot of sense where is talking about scale and some of these same principles and implications for health and wellness are pretty crazy when you learn about the electromagnetic fields and things we can't see on the power of light, and earlier we mentioned rotating plasma what is the sun what is a star other than rotating plasma mean that seems to be where it is never heard your art crystals described as a star in a jar too but.

40:44 To kind of move on to other celestial bodies, let me ask you about planets. I think our conventional model is pretty off on this too. They say planets get more and more dense towards the core but there are theories out there that planets are actually hollow or have hollow cavities in the middle some even say an inner sun or something in the middle what are your thoughts on this? And how planet's really are comprised Right well it comes back to stars as well you know and galaxies universes then i don't mean because, i found from the physics i wrote but a as well now from you know what i've learned in the universe is that there's one model does not like twenty million different things the universe doesn't

41:33 It self-organizes in very specific ways and you know it's not just a free fall out there. And so let me just say right off the bat that planet or star that would not be hollow, that would be getting denser towards the middle and full would be completely, completely inconsistent with what we observe meaning We see stars and planet oscillating at very high rate and creating you know like ringing.

42:12 Ringing in space like friends since we recorded the ringing of all the planets in our solar system and the sun weekend literally can be recorded in there ringing. This would be equivalent of thinking that you can make a bell that's completely full ring right, tapping on a rock or a boulder write it's not gonna rain very well i mean it would not sustain ringing right it would tear itself out if you try to ring into a heart but hollow structure like a bell will rain very well we see the stars and planets raining very very well our moon is really good example it's like rings like there's no tomorrow when we land on the moon and then you know i landed on the moon is a very teeny thing compared to the moon

43:08 When we land on the moon just a fact that we land something on the moon makes the moon alter it's ringing a little bit for like days if not weeks and so you know i mean it, you can imagine is very sensitive and so you know that is much more consistent with hollow system now. Now I'm making these claims not only because of the ringing, that's just one part of the evidence. The other part is the physics i wrote clearly demonstrate that at the center of all system is singularity so that might be coming to a shock to people there is a singularity in the center of the earth there is a singularity at the center of the sun and there is a singularity at the center galaxies

43:55 And as i proven in my math there is a singularity at the center of the atoms we call proton so it's singularity or black hole would you know for the earth is very small size of walnut, what be like a little point of light. If you were to look at it from the outside in a hollow structure of our planet inside that region matter would have collapsed into that singularity so the matter would be absorbed. the matter that's far enough would stay in orbit because of angular momentum you have a balance at one point yeah the balance between. You know the centrifugal forces of rotation and the central force of, gravitational effect of this thing larry and so you get across

44:48 and that crust would start to build various levels of density, which is called the carbon cycle in stars. And it would go through various level of heat or thermal effects. It would produce high level of friction and heat and electromagnetic and magnetic components And so if you measure the magnetic field of the earth on the surface it's almost point seven gals you know it's pretty strong it's not trivial. And you know you put a little bit of iron on the needle and they will point to the north pole and it doesn't matter how far are from the north pole, right since pretty strong magnetic field well if u calculate

45:41 How strong the magnetic field at the core of the earth would have to be, To produce such a magnetic field on the surface. Since magnetic fields drop at the square of distance and actually in high magnetic field it's exponential But even if you do conservative calculation just that the square of distance then the magnetic field in center of the earth would have to huge and it be similar to what it would be for a black hole. So yes, I'm a proponent that the Earth is hollow and that actually all planets are and stars as well and they're centered by singularity and as well that continental drift is not the result of all the continents being together in some side of the Earth at one point but its the result of the earth growing

46:34 And so expanding your theory i thought i had discovered it by myself when i was doing my math and physics twenty years ago and then i discovered that another physicist in the sixties, add come to the same conclusion the earth is not stable in terms of its size but has been growing through millennia. And you know when you shrink your sixty percent the contents come together very very cleanly much more cleanly than the current prevalent continental drift theory and,

47:10 tectonic plates theory where they need to do a lot of deformation of the continents, to make them fit together. And people can see that on YouTube as well. They can go in YouTube and put expanding earth theory and they will see videos animation of this theory and I think it's much more correct and much more aligned with the concepts that a spinning sphere would not throw all of its mass to one side but would expand and the mass, the continent mass would move away from each other as it expands.

47:48 Yes yes well said i think those are really great logical arguments for why you would think this way i think the earth grows as well mean everything we see grows trees grow people grow animals growing why would we thank the earth doesn't in fact we do think the earth Formed and then i guess the conventional model just things it stopped it forms to a point and then just stop right and that doesn't make sense i do think you would be continuous. Change like everything else and you mentioned me rotational angular momentum is kinda like that ride at the carnival that spin so fast hold you up against the wall and away from the middle if your under the influence of that force

48:29 If there was something in the middle it was dangerous to be held off by that rotation and you mentioned a singularity. In the middle i guess i would be curious is that singularity really dangerous to be around as possible the interior could be habitable or what it'd be way too intense, What the parents of the cavity is far enough from the singularity it would be like our son just like. The center of our galaxy right lake you know this and have the galaxies in supermassive black hole,

49:06 But it's not dangerous to us because we're far enough in orbit that you know it's actually life giving this is the error that has been made and this is starting to be rectified even by the mainstream. The air that has been made that that has depicted black holes as these giants that just eat everything around them just destroys everything well they're starting to discover now actually black holes maybe the life giving force of the universe and that there are you know the center of energy, that produces all our systems and you know of course i've been saying this for a long time as a result

49:47 25 years ago I was in physics conference trying to explain to people that like there would be a black hole at the center of every galaxy which, at the time was like preposterous and i got into a lot of trouble for saying that. And then eventually they found black holes at the center of every big galaxy they've ever observed and so you know of course it's harder for them to swallow the rest that I was telling them add homes are mini black hole that stars and many black holes in our black holes as well and so on but they're getting there, this still haven't agreed to have their don't get there yet it's becoming more popular is more and more very high level business is starting to realize that.

50:32 particles at the atomic level are acting very much like black holes and so it's coming along but basically you know a black hole is the vortex in the structure of space time, and that vortex produce angular momentum and when there is angular momentum you don't just have a gravitational force sucking towards the middle centrifugal force pulling away from the middle and the two balance out and creates boundary conditions and stable orbits. And that's exactly what we see in the universe, whether at the quantum level or at the universal level. So interesting yes singularities at the center of every galaxy every atom and every planet and everything it just seems like the same stuff with a different scale

51:22 Let's get weird i mean i was just thinking about this but we're talking about singularities and their potential for having their entangled so they have this potential, travel might we get farther by going inside the earth as opposed to out into the universe if we can access that singularity. Well thats really good question let me go little further down the rabbit hole into these equations When I wrote this equation something really weird happened. I was writing the equation for the exchange of information inside the proton, the volume of the proton relative to the outside

51:59 And they give me the right answer but part of the answer that it give me was that the information inside the proton is exactly equivalent to the critical mass of the universe. So, that meant all other protons information is present in one proton So it's holographic, which had predicted but it was kind of stunning to see just appear like that because it wasn't just approximately the right answer. It was exactly the right answer for the critical mass of the universe which I finally just published now and so is kinda stunning and so I started thinking about it well you know if atoms are mini black holes

52:49 These mini black holes may be connected by wormholes. And wormholes are predicted by Einstein field equation but usually at the cosmological scale Right we can when we think of warm holes with ink of these huge like border season space that could bring us from one side the universe the other instantaneously and all this stuff, it's predicted by einstein field equation but it's not being applied to the quantum scale. Until recently until you know last few years now there is no very famous physicist

53:24 such can that you know with montessori you know another is shown that like maybe there's these micro wormholes occurring at the plan scale that are riddling all the structure of space that space, you know that vacuum fluctuation is not just. Fluctuating randomly but actually it's creating these microworm holes that connects everything and so my equation definitely showed that And I was really intrigued because then that means that all the protons are connected, like it's all one big network. Right? And so then I thought wow if we can enter the network, then we could go... So think of the black holes singularity at all the scales being the hubs of the network

54:16 Like the servers of a network of computers and the wormholes being the cables that connects all. The server and so i started to think wait if we get inside one of those puppies we could go anywhere in the universe instantaneously, You know i came up with these ideas before i could prove them mathematically i came up with these ideas twenty five years ago and so i start to observe the sun i started today figure out you know is there stuff coming in and out of the sun that's not explain easily you know i mean,

54:58 is there stuff coming in and out of the center of our world about planet you know that cannot be explained easily. Some say there is some say there's been talk about that stuff things going in and out of volcanoes for instance you know which would be a vortex to the center of the, singularity you know i mean it's a good question you ask i can answer with search engine but i would answer where some background to be able to get the answer and certainly some theoretical sport yes if i was, try to go across the universe.

55:40 Are you using the universal wormhole black hole network i would attempt to enter the singularity of the center of our planet which would lead to this and larry at the center of our son, which should be to the singularity of the center of our galaxy. And then you know if i wanted to go to another star inside our galaxy that i wouldn't Dial in the frequency of that start to lead to the center of that star and then i would come out of the center of that story into that solar system. I love it i love it really seems like the movie stargate is a decent analogy except that the portals are in the center of the planet not these things on the surface but they still need to be dialed in, and then you can travel through them

56:25 Right so you have to create your own singularity get linked into the network and then go through the scales. Well said well said and it does seem like the best way for your theories to be more widely accepted in the beat back the resistance is through creating technologies like the art crystal, technology that clearly seemed to work invalidate the ideas because they'd be undeniable if these things works are there any other things that you're working on and the technology space that might help to push this further. Of course i mean there's the technology and is the theory to papers i publish in there equal physics are very important as well because they informed a theoretical community of these advancements in physics, resistance but more and more physicists are very excited about what i'm riding all around the world.

57:20 many universities i'm fairly well known and those ideas are becoming more and more accepted that doesn't mean they can come publicly talk about it because the institutions there in or not so excited about that we literally get people from all around the world that when I participate we have a small team of physicist phd physicists and astrophysicist astronomers biologists, biophysicists that work all we all work together but as well in laboratory and of course working on many other technologies than the art crystals and eventually to reach you know gravitational control and this

58:07 Lots of these things that are gonna come in the next few years and the future they're gonna support clearly sport. That is correct but the theory stands on its own of course all good theories have to be sustained and supported by experimental studies, both observation experimental studies and technological development so that's all there is a lot of observational studies that have supported my theory throughout the years i made

58:43 many predictions that came through the proton one is the most known one because it was well documented but there's as well technological developments that supports my theory they're not so well known because they are still in confines of dark alleys you know and back up laboratories and garage inventors around the world but its coming along gonna emerge in the next few years, no doubt. Wow! Well I am excited for that and i'm so glad I got to run through all my weirdo questions for you and big thanks to everyone who helped make this possible and get us connected You're a lot of fun, you have a lot of really great exciting ideas Before we go what would you want to tell people about following up here or learning more about the things you're doing with The Resonance Science Foundation?

59:39 Yeah, so if people go to the Resonance Science Foundation, you know resonancescience.org then they can connect with our community for instance all of our research groups and then as well get involved in to the delegate program which is a program where you know all the science I'm talking about has been written and you can learn about it. And there's like all the links, you know that to all of the different things that we have discovered this is all gonna change into an app very soon we need support when

1:00:20 financial support to be able to do that we're working on it and then it's really great because thousands of people from all around the world are participating over 80 countries. And so you get connect with a community of all like minded individuals every month for two hours I answer questions for other people taking the course and we have a lot of fun, we discover together being involved is what to like help this transformation happen, it's so critical. Every single person that gets involved makes a difference as well it helps us financially to be able to finance this research which is extremely expensive you know?

1:01:05 Easy so it really helps us and so you get to participate in this transformation for planet earth and four generations to come. Awesome very cool i hope this interview is letting the fire for a few people, it's definitely been on pleasure my good man keep up the great work and take care out there thank you so much for having me was great to discuss this with you Oh, oh it's Magic! You know people. Oh big show today Definitely one I was super excited to record and put out for you Obviously like to keep our subjects pretty diverse around here So we do something from column A and then next week I like to go to column D Then jump over to column Y We tend to go for that extreme diversity And this one is pretty aligned with Jim Elvidge

1:02:03 Just a couple shows back, so we are kind of double dipping. But when you get an email asking if you want to have Nassim on... You just say yes and deal with the rest! I've heard a lot about his interviews and it seems like we got to talk about some things today that i don't know that I've heard him speak about before Primarily Hollow Planets Growing hollow planets but hollow planets nonetheless Clearly that was my favorite part I am always looking for more bright minds to confirm my crazy stoner desires and a habitable hollow earth is certainly one of them. But this episode is about so much more than just that, and the hollow fractal paradigm is one that resonates with me quite well

1:02:51 The way he explains why our mainstream physics has been ununified and what he did to solve for them makes a lot of sense for me. At least it's layman's explanation, I haven't checked the math! Going back to guests like Eric Dollard, Shimon Janir, Aaron Murakami and like i mentioned Jim Elvidge Of course there are nuances and small differences among these guys, but add it all up and I think we're circling around a much better model for reality than anything else I know. Space is a medium every proton is an entangled singularity woven into the nucleus of every atom. Even if you pull up a diagram, a typical diagram, of the parts of an atom It kind of looks just like this And that's what we always say about quarantined physics

1:03:44 You can't change what the atom looks like, but it seems like the powers that be have shoehorned in explanations that make as much sense as they can without revealing the potentials for free energy for flying saucers. For all the things guys like Tesla and T Townsend Brown and Wilhelm Reich and Victor Schauberger were on the trail of So when people see actual flying saucers or hear about folks who have made free energy devices, they think oh well that's clearly impossible. But it isn't and it requires what I consider to be a relatively small tweak to the way we think about the models and it really opens the universe up to feel like some cosmic sandbox or playground where we do have this limitless potential

1:04:35 It seems like this framework of scarcity is somewhat artificial and just placed on us so that corporations and the dynastic families can stack cash. I'm pissed! But now, imagine an advanced civilization who knows these things scopes out the Earth and sees the ass-backwards way we do things just so we can consolidate green paper into the hands of a privileged few. And it's no wonder they stay away for the most part! But overall I love it. A holistic look at a holistic world...it only makes sense

1:05:13 In fact, I've been hearing a lot of Andrew Yang recently and he of course is the only guy in politics talking about automation. How the solution is yeah you be i he says universal basic income but really we need to find value in ourselves outside of the market. Because the robots and AI they're gonna take the market so we better start assigning some value on love or what it means to be human or family, why were here and what we want our lives to be The next phase of the industrial revolution, the automation of everything is not going to be stopped. But the damage can be limited by getting out of the mindset that the only thing that matters is your productivity in some cubicle or on some assembly line! So when I say Nassim's work feels like as much a philosophy as it is a science this is the kind of thing um thinking about...I'm talking about and I don't just think it's a better way to look at life

1:06:18 with the corresponding science and apparently math, but clearly that's over my head. It's not just a better way it's a necessary way! It's a much-needed change in mindset and this model is like a breadcrumb that leads to all sorts of paradigm changing places And I tried to prove that today just by asking him so many out there things And I also want to say big thanks to HoloFractal Joe for doing that first show with me, for setting the groundwork up and putting THC on the radar of The Resonance Academy's inner circle. And thus laying down the path we walked to get here today! Since I mentioned all the far out stuff I brought up, I guess I should tell you what was in the Plus Show if you only happen to be hearing the free First Hour.

1:07:08 but I asked him about magic and ritual, and the mechanisms behind it. And he told us how he thinks it works. We talked about cataclysms and contact events UFO disclosure and the military-industrial complex when lost technology becomes legend The Ark of the Covenant in the pyramids health and wellness applications of his model Of course, I had to ask him about the Breatharian stuff. But we also talked about new technologies in development based off his work All really fun stuff and we did not shy away from weird aspects of reality that must be explained by any model And I felt like his answers were unique and intriguing

1:07:54 Of course, this is how I put out the first hour ad free. We have these plus memberships and instead of asking for donations, I say hey you like the first hour enough to tip me eight bucks a month? I'll actually give you two-hour episodes instead! Seems like a good deal in me. Sign up at TheHigherSideChats.com And speaking of the higher side chats.com, I hope you heard my previous post in the feed a little audio update on what the hell's been going on with THC? I'm obviously not gonna go over all that here but suffice to say it's been a rough August and a rough launch on the new website But we're 90% of the way there with just a little bit more to go but we have a much more unified and user-friendly system how appropriate for today

1:08:45 But if you want to hear the full shows, hop on board. I got a very large catalog of hundreds of shows and i could use it right now actually but i'm really thankful again to Nassim and those who helped make it happen! I hope we can say justice was done here I actually think there are many worthy Hireside guests on the Resonance Academy staff, and i'm sure this won't be the last time we talk about it. But thanks for listening! You have a limitless sea of options and I work hard to try and make sure everything I do around here is worth your time so take care and I will see you soon with another heavy hitter because it's crunch time for me the rest of the month

1:09:33 But until then, I've done my part. Your move Cultural Perception Managers, Scientific Quarantiners and Hiders of the Holowearth! You're fucking... Lucid dreams are so vivid, cause you go to bed at seven And your brain comes alive because you hate your nine-to-five You wake up with a dread and make sure your cats are fed Did your brain talk to a ghost who moved your coffee and toast As you listen to the higher side chats You get to your desk and your boss says it's a mess And your soul slowly goes To a place where nothing grows When you think he's not around, you insert a SETI sound The OM says turn it down and you say It's just the higher side chats Oh do you think you'd be invited? To Bohemia Grove. To a Bilderberg club Do you think you'd be invited

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