Matthew Lacroix | The Epic of Humanity & The Suppressed History of Sacred Knowledge

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06:24 Here we go, Hiresight Chatters. From the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlwood and there is certainly something they don't want us to know about the past And when you look at the ways they've carefully curated their version of The Human Story and the many holes in it It makes one a bit suspicious Why would Egyptologists have sectioned off the Giza Plateau with areas of restricted access and sanitized the Egyptian story in ways that are more obvious than ever? What's so hard about acknowledging an obvious worldwide network of pyramids, and why are some clear examples of man-made construction still officially considered natural formations. For what reason would the CIA take the book Adam and Eve about cyclical cataclysms and lock it away in the vault for years only to eventually release a heavily redacted version? Why do many megalithic sites get less complex with later rounds of rebuilding and restoration rather than more?

07:15 And if we're going to credit the Sumerians with being the first civilization to discover mathematics, astronomy, astrology, agriculture, complex writing, The Wheel, metallurgy, saline, moral laws, the first currency and even fermentation... Shouldn't we listen when they say they were taught these things by someone else from somewhere else? The system's selective editing strikes an increasingly large number of people as odd. And despite the great work being done outside the academic oligarchy, it is still as if they need to be dragged kicking and screaming through making the tiniest changes that barely move the needle anyway! Why such resistance? What are they trying to hide?

07:56 Well, according to today's return guest Matthew LaCroix...damn near everything. Matthew was here once before in 2020 talking about suppressed history, Anunnaki engineering and the true meaning behind the eagle and serpent symbolism that have been with us for as far back as we know And since we last spoke, he's not only found evidence of a previously unknown civilization in Eastern Turkey he is calling the Ererat Civilization. But he also released his third book co-authored by Billy Carson called The Epic Of Humanity which holds the largest collection of ancient texts ever contained in a single book as well as their reconstructed 200 thousand year timeline of human history stretching back to the true rise of civilization

08:39 His other books include The Stage of Time, Secrets of the Past, The Nature of Reality and the Ancient Gods of History. And The Illusion Of Us – The Suppression and Evolution of Human Consciousness You can learn more on his website, thestageoftime.com but it certainly seems like we have plenty new stuff to talk about so let's get busy! The historic record reconstructor, Anunnaki storyteller and unraveler of big lies Matthew LaCroix welcome back Hey, it's great to be back again after four years. That was a great introduction I appreciate it Thank you. I try and it is a pleasure I enjoy your passion for this stuff and you're one of my favorite people in the space for several reasons But thank you get here Of course And before we get too deep into that give us an update on the last couple of years It seems like you've done a lot and some of it seems to be pretty groundbreaking

09:30 Yeah, it's very exciting. Thanks for mentioning that we have just released my third book with Billy Carson, The Epic of Humanity. Greg's got it he's checking it out. He's scoping out the ancient texts in there I like to think of well If someone is saying, I've never read the Timaeus and Critias by Plato but I've heard things. Well pick this up and you have some of the best parts of something like Greek text all the way to ancient Sumerian Akkadian and also Vedic texts. We're putting together this corpus higher knowledge compendium library of like the greatest teachings that ancient civilizations throughout history have left behind for us to try to remember

10:10 Well, you mentioned new things besides that. So besides releasing the latest book, the discoveries and the work that I'm doing right now with Lost Civilizations is very exciting. It's cutting edge it's right on the forefront of us understanding this lost aspect of our story. I love your introduction because it very much highlighted Well, look we have this narrative that doesn't make sense any longer. It's a 6,000 year narrative of civilizations emerging that doesn't hold water being the only story like when we try to fit everything in there it's honestly like a complete disaster. It doesn't fit at all its very almost comical actually and that's not against any archaeologist I think those who protect that other aspect higher aspects our story and our doctrine

10:57 It's far above archaeologists. It's not really archaeologists, it's the handlers of where these artifacts go and how they're catalogued and considered in the human story. That is why I'm working with archaeologists now specifically one of them named Jennifer Deo, to come together and other scientists to come together to look at this in a way that's never been done before. You know we've talked all about this wonderful people throughout history have laid the foundation. We wouldn't be here if it was a combination of Robert Bavola John Anthony West all the way up through Graham Hancock Raynald Carlson and many many others It's this legacy but that legacy

11:38 has laid the foundation for saying this definitive statement of, yes we have lost civilizations in entire other chapters that have not been acknowledged. And that's been established and we also can say, well we know these giant megalithic structures in temples that are on the lower most especially the lower most bases that are more advanced. We know that's not from the same time period so we know those things So were starting to lay those things out and even though the full academic world hasn't maybe jumped on board with rewriting history books they're listening okay? They're listening they're paying attention and their waiting for this wave It's the wave of change. And the wave of change actually isn't as hard as people think, it just takes a movement. It takes people coming together

12:23 and then others come together, and now before you know it's like a domino effect. Right? So you get one archaeologist then you get two or three proxy that are coming in which already have then you get scientists, geologists, you get spiritual religious experts, you get megalithic experts what happens when you bring all those together how is the academic community going to dispute that how are they gonna discredit that because that is not something we've had Give me an example, like Graham Hancock's brilliant. He's an amazing man and he knows more than most humans on earth but he is a journalist so he gets attacked immediately as not being an archaeologist And that is something that severely limits our ability to move forward I have the same thing. I'm not accredited archaeologist We're self-studied That doesn't mean we necessarily know less It just means we don't have paper we can hold up to say I went to school to get this

13:16 But that is what's changing because we're bringing in PhDs and masters and academics from all over the world that have voices, and have information that they want to collaborate with. And so what we're doing is exploring that mystery in a way it has never been done before. We are actually taking it and making tangible and saying well how does Teotihuacan fit into Oyate Tambo or Saske-Wamon in South America, how does Baalbek Lebanon tie in with ancient Egypt? How does eastern Turkey like Lake Van tie into Gobekli Tepe? How do the ancient cave relief temples from India tie in with Egypt and Petra Jordan. The whole thing is a story

14:02 And the more that we've been digging and getting the real evidence behind it with, again like you mentioned those discoveries and those incredible things are happening at Lake Vaughn. Imagine it's a puzzle around the world pieces are all over the place right? They're kind of scattered in your life I think this one kinda fits in here and this was sort of fits here a little bit right but they're like fragments of like a larger puzzle like a little puzzles can put together in South America and then a little puzzling Egypt but what if you have the piece is to put the whole thing And that, I believe derives back to these brand new excavations around Lake Vaughan with these incredible sites like Aionis and Keth and Cavus. And underwater ancient megalithic temples the only ones in the entire world that are under water

14:47 in its whole region of Lake Vaughan with these ancient Sumerian connections and lineages back to these ancient Hebrew bloodlines and these like origin points, the whole thing is stirring up a lot of excitement because the same symbols we're seeing at these sites around Lake Vaughan become the same symbols embedded in the same teachings that then travel around the world. And the same megalithic designs with the stone and the work they did, with this technology seems to have originated from what I firmly believe. And that's what we're exploring with these experts and scientists is from this origin point a lost origin point around Lake Van in eastern Turkey that then I believe mapped out, literally spread around the world to nearly every part of the planet. Actually, I wanted to mention really quickly, I had a huge breakthrough just yesterday with the beauty of social media with having me being part of every single megalithic ancient group that's online in the world

15:45 I get bombarded and I love it with people that share ancient sites, lost technology in some sites around the world. There's so many and I found new connections in India and Cambodia that I had not found for this. And it's exciting because it keeps growing you know we're adding on to this list of like adding Medina Salae in Saudi Arabia and adding Aksum Ethiopia and it's just getting bigger and bigger to the point where this lost civilization narrative, if we can follow it around seems to encompass like almost the entire planet. And it literally is a lost chapter or chapters because I believe that there was two not even one so not even one that came before us that was sophisticated but how about two and that's why there's so much confusion with these different levels of advancement around the world because I mean

16:35 catastrophes that are beyond our comprehension in this modern time period. It's like we would have to go look at Hollywood to even get a comprehension of what some of these earth catastrophes have occurred, but imagine the legacy of those sages having to try and rebuild this ancient world and being unable to. That is what we're trying to explore right now." What an amazing setup so one of the common questions that comes up when we start talking about a global ancient civilization and connections between places where people weren't supposed to be able to travel or communicate with each other.

17:10 Is one camp of people i guess you could say there's three but there is definitely a camp of people that think about this more in a material sense weather that. Well they did build ships and they did travel and it wasn't as hard as people think it is or their spaceships and space aliens that went around and taught everybody everything, what there's another way to look at which i think to me for my money makes little more sense that is non physical that is more like shaman ism or tapping into some kind of spirit beings that are the true teachers so if like many different cultures that really don't have. The technology to build ships if there, all train their consciousness if they're connecting to some kind of source and getting information downloads i could see a lot of them getting similar downloads but

18:02 We do have physical evidence of the same symbols all around the globe, the same types of pyramids all around the globe. So that's got to be explained and it's either physical travel or astral information what you think? What if it's a little bit both? Let me give you that little side to think about so first of all I don't think its ships are anything let's just take that off the table from my perspective I believe it's a combination of two things. We actually have very good evidence to point towards it, really. It's not even speculative. The key to this is looking at three different locations that are all aligned and are connected and that is looking at the Maya Aztec – well pre-Maya and pre-Aztec and then down through like Veracruz in South America because Cucucan

18:51 this feathered serpent god, which is very symbolic. It's not literal of that civilization that created them is identical and I mean 100% every trade is identical the way they look to Quetzalcoatl which was a pre-Aztec God both of those and then you go down South America and you get into Amaru in Veracruz which there's a whole story there but it doesn't really matter because all those individuals are actually described by the indigenous and legends in stories about who they were, and how they got there. And that's one of the things that we have to tap into is these indigenous groups that maybe live in a little bit more remote pocket or something, they protect these narratives much longer than others so you know in the Amazon

19:36 South America or in some of the jungles of Guatemala, there are groups that have left behind lineages and talking about like what happened. And we know that because Cortes and others landed, and they found out some of these stories. In fact not only that but it looks very plausible that Cortes was actually timed to return and go conquer the Aztec based on this returning prophecy of Quetzalcoatl Now before I get too muddied in that think about it for a minute Why would you confuse Cortez with Quetzalcoatl unless he kind of looked like Quetzalcoatl?

20:13 The reason I say that is that those indigenous groups from the whole region, it doesn't matter if its pre-Maya Aztec or down into the pre Inca. They all have the same story and I encourage people to look it up as how is Viracocha? How is Kukulkan and Quetzalcoatl described not as a feathered serpent god. That's a powerful symbol that represents the metamorphosis of the serpent, the energy of higher consciousness into the higher form like the wings take that for second and just imagine being purely symbolic Well, cuckoo con, quetzalcoatl, they're described as being like a great sage. Like a long white beard! Literally that's how it is described. It is described as some kind of traveling person or group that came from somewhere else that they are not part of

20:59 at all. They're not part of the indigenous groups, they look very different and it's described that they came in either from the ships or from out of Lake Titicaca, Viracocha emerges so there are two aspects going on there with this multi-dimensional concept of these higher teachers But then there's also real sages, like real physical sages that are traveling around with groups and creating civilizations. And I think both are going on and it's like they're tapping into something higher once they learn these lessons but that's what fascinating because it means... Wait a minute so did the Mesopotamians in Egyptians and Greeks maybe they perhaps looks like they mastered maritime sea travel

21:44 far before we could ever imagine, and it was like a global civilization. And that's actually well described in Plato's teachings from Timaeus and Critias with Atlantis being a global empire. A global empire that actually went to war against the proto-Athenians. They're the only ones that can meet them in conquest. So we see this over and over again that no, looks like they were physically traveling on ships from other places. Now I want to give you another clue that kind of proves that I think. In South America are what are called the p heard of them? Absolutely from another location that's quite far away, but both part of that ancient world. Now in those skulls they were all elongated skulls and they were not elongated because of cranial binding it was actually like a natural genetic thing that was found when they tested these different skulls from these locations what they found was stunning! The genetics from the skulls

22:44 didn't come from anywhere in the region. It came from Caucasus Mountains, Lake Vaughn Armenia I was like oh my god the whole thing makes so much sense of course like the lake vaughn sages the mesopotamian sages like in sumer it's called the apkallu they're the great sages that even taught the dogon that's what the nomo of the dogon the fish suit is it's just them teaching them everything and they were traveling around And the reason they had a fish suit? If anybody's wondering, right. Like why would you wear a fish suit? What about Pisces? What about a previous age of Pisces with the fish if they're symbolic referencing certain times that's why the Pope has the miter hat that's the same thing as that depiction of the nomo to the dogon is the same thing it's right there and that's why the comparisons overlap but the point I'm making is that we now see clear evidence

23:36 there was a massive global, more advanced group that was sharing our world with indigenous groups at the same time and more primitive groups. Very much so I'm not trying to say like the whole world is like it is now It's not! It was more highly advanced groups that were very spiritual That were traveling around creating civilizations out of primitive groups that didn't know really anything other than living in more of a balance with nature and living off the land. They knew that, obviously but what they didn't know was everything else and it's described actually that when they arrived these sages arrived to these different places like South America that they were actually greeted with hostility. And in Egypt is talked about too where the natives come out running out and their angry and then its described in every way as same thing

24:25 some spectacular display of like magic is done. And it's described in that John Taylor spoke the great pyramid I always read about. It's described that it's a force that is done without a battle, that just is one and it's like some kind of spectacle has shown and people just stop fighting. And it's shown that way around the world in that it's like civilizing and creating these groups but then what happens is what I think is so confusing for people is that these sages and these groups traveled around the world they created civilizations but they moved on So, I think they came and like the Olmec were probably the first. If I was to speculate based on my evidence in studying this is that the Olmec from Leventa were the first and that the Olmecs are actually traveling with the sages. I think the Olmec were from Africa specifically from a combination of maybe Mali in different parts of Egypt.

25:18 We see very defined African traits. And I think they were traveling with sages, literally went across the Atlantic and went to Mexico and then created the entire Olmec civilization. And I think that's the first—that's where it began in the Americas outside of maybe South America with Viracocha. That's a whole other story. But in Central America, Mexico-Central America, I think the Olmec is a first. And I think then the Maya and then the Pre-Aztec and the Toltec, they all emerged out of that but imagine how much time that So Kukulkan creates the Chichen Itza and these temples to Kukulkan, all these ascended teachings. And then he travels away and then creates Teotihuacan in all these other areas and keeps traveling. We have to stop pretending that a civilization that was created with those morals would be that easy to maintain forever without any other influences. It's like children being handed keys,

26:13 Make sure you pack your lunch and get ready for school today, and make sure you do all this stuff. How would you expect children to be able to maintain everything that they're not ready for? I see these civilizations as like children where they were given all these keys and they did great things with it, but then eventually they became corrupted and they lost them. And they went down a dark road much like a lot of the rest of our history." I think that's how we should look at it is like these great traveling sages AND these multi-dimensional celestial beings those absolutely are part of this! That's what I want to call them...is that there's something going on in synergy between great sages and teachers here

26:53 And then this like source of knowledge and things that are being brought here is there's two things going on. And I want to make that really clear. I like it, that's a really great summary. Very diplomatic is both and who can be upset about that? So also another factor if you're trying to look at history and be like well how could they have been going around and why don't we have more evidence of the ships in this and that well two factors like if you throw in cataclysms every thirteen thousand years well then it's really hard to find out about anything from one previous round or two or three and then you could also throw in the fact that maybe the landscape did look quite different maybe didn't have to cross the full atlantic and that brings us to one of my favorite stories in your new book but I'd love to have you retell

27:42 That's the story of James Churchward that ends up with this discovery of an ancient map. Tell people what this is about! Yes, so in 1901 there was a traveling anthropologist that was coming through Asia and he was one of the first to come into that region to study some of the cultures. He was meeting with a Tibetan monk in southern Tibetan northern China—that region of the Himalayas And he met with this Tibetan monk in 1901, and he was traveling along and trying to understand their cultural aspects. He didn't expect what ended up happening to him but what ended up occurring was that this monk basically told them that he had made a discovery and they didn't know how or understand how to handle it.

28:31 several months before that traveling anthropologist had come through. And I'm trying to remember his name, do you remember? Sir Arl Stein Thank you! Sir Arl Stein So sir Arl Stein is talking to this Tibetan monk and the Tibetan monk tells him this incredible story he tells him that while they were maintaining some of these ancient libraries called The Library Of A Thousand Buddhas and there's these caves that are basically honeycombed into this ancient mountain in Himalayas Now, they knew about all these different libraries and they were maintaining them. So they'd have to climb up these stairs and then get the go in and maintain it and take care of that's what they did. There was one though there was a cave that was number 16 or next to number 16. And I would describe that he was doing some work on one of these libraries and he broke through a wall that had been sealed

29:26 next to this cave. So he peers through, he pushes the rubble away and he comes in and enters a library that had not been seen for 800 years! Nobody had ever been in there for 800 years now. Why is that important? Paper records only last 500-1000 years. That's it. And wood doesn't last very long at all unless its buried preserved, you know in other processes. But paper I mean paper is wood they're both part of that same organic component and they don't last very long so the only reason this library was able to be maintained was it sealed off and that region is so dry and arid that no moisture could get him and so these records were preserved So R.L Stein comes in he's looking around He finds writings and ancient texts from all over the world. He sees what we know as shiny Mandarin

30:20 He sees Vedic texts, he sees text from Mesopotamia. He sees all these incredible texts but one in particular catches his attention. One of them is a map that was drawn and he actually recreated it based on seeing it so you had to try and copy over the original map but its a copy of the one that he saw. So Aurel Stein takes this map and recreates it in his journal And in that map, it's the only map that we have today that really exists from the ancient world. I mean like bar none! We don't really have any other maps like this that depict in very specific ways actually though...I love you put that up. It says Atlantis is a global civilization that stretches from Mexico from the Maya all the way to the Mediterranean which is exactly what we're seeing lining up now

31:08 That's the first thing. Remember, that map was discovered in 1901 but that map is far more ancient than that. Again, that map is over 800 years old so now we have to imagine that Atlantis is shown there and it shows it as existing at the time. Existing meaning the map was created when Atlantis was around But what's fascinating is it talks about this Mu'ulamuri in the Pacific, another continent civilization that was there or set of islands we can call it. There was another entire civilization but in the wording it says that it was submerged you see that? Submerged meaning it was already sinking. It was already disappearing into the ocean so if we want to imagine that we have almost nothing left from Atlantis, we have very little right? We have a few things that give us clues to know that was real but now like think back

31:58 besides the megaliths like in Tonga and the Mariana Islands, which we can talk about. We don't have anything else left really from Mu. We have some of the indigenous stories that talking about like from the indigenous Hawaiians that talk about some of this a little bit and some of the other groups in the Pacific but like that entire civilization story everything they wrote everything they left behind is gone it disappeared into the sea became like a myth and legend to us if you think its real but I want to point out people who dont think thats real Go look at the stories of that god Maui, right? From Moana. Same thing! Go look at it from the standpoint though... go look at Tonga, the Mariana Islands in Guam okay there's a few others as well in that region they have these giant pillars of limestone that are multi-tonne pillars enormous and the indigenous are like we didn't build it

32:50 No, we didn't build it all. Maui built it." And you're like, whoa wait, Maui build it? I'm actually quite a fan of that movie. I'm not afraid to say it. I love the idea of returning balance that balance and harmony was disrupted and destroyed, and you had to return balance. Because that's very much in line with what a lot of the ancient things around the world are showing is that balance was destroyed here and lost. And that is perhaps part of a deeper conversation on what our purpose here might be is restoring that balance. But getting back to them, in Tonga Mariana Islands these giant limestone structures that they're like T pillars almost a little bit, they're slightly different

33:28 is that you see those on islands all around that region, and none of the indigenous say they built them. I believe that's the last remnants of Mu Lemuria, the last remnants of it but not from the original areas like the center part but like the outer parts of their influences because we don't see that kind of building anywhere else really in the world. That specific type of megalithic style in that Pacific region we only see that for their building, which makes me think okay so that actually gives a pretty strong evidence in some ways at least on the surface level to say that may be the remnants of all that's left of that civilization.

34:09 Man i like it and for people who just heard the audio i held up the map from the book it probably will be one of our clips but it just shows that. The huge land masses of i guess maria and atlantis are moving to lance's were in the atlantic and pacific almost stretching all the way across so, Even if that map isn't a hundred percent accurate, if there was any landmass of great size in the middle of the Atlantic and Pacific, well it just got a lot easier to get around. And you know, you can just think about it that way so I think there's something to that and

34:46 I want to string a couple things together here, but something that always resonated with me when it comes to your work. And we did talk about this a bit last time, but it's also included in your new book is the angle that Constantine who was the emperor of Rome and 300-ish AD and was a pagan most of his life while he converted Rome to Christianity mainly as a way according to you to consolidate and control the narrative of humanity which It explains why symbols like the cross predate Christianity because they were co-opted and molded into it, and it explains why information that didn't fit into the Christian story had to go. It wasn't really a religious obsession as is often painted but it was a control scheme

35:31 To follow up on that, so you say in the Epic of Humanity that there are four main factors for the confusion around ancient sites and culture. The absence of writing on the walls, the fact that it's difficult to date stone, violent earth changes and variable ocean levels. And then the major one, you say it's important to understand that a small number of extremely powerful individuals and secret societies control nearly everything in our world today Well, I definitely lean that way too. And to say that Constantine adopted Christianity and That story's just running on fumes, that's one thing. But then to say secret societies control the world today... Like I say, I lean that way as well but it seems kind of hard to convince others of that. What would you cite as evidence that secret societies still run this show and are motivated to keep this true past hidden from us? Yeah, I would look at this from a really high level

36:32 I'll give you the example of how Spain sent Cortes to time exactly with the prophecy return of Quetzalcoatl. That's impossible to be random, like if you have an ancient Maya prophecy and Aztec prophecy that a certain god is going to return hundreds and hundreds of years later and you have no access to their knowledge and your disconnected from their world? How would you know that? Right, that is a good point How would you know that unless you do know that from a much, much deeper understanding than we have accepted or acknowledging in ancient history? And that is an undertone of secret knowledge that has existed in our society for thousands of years and the whole thing changed into a different model. Now let me paint this for you

37:22 read something like the 42 laws of Mot, like the ancient consort of Thoth in Egypt. You'll see direct parallels to the Ten Commandments of Moses. You'll see some comparisons as well with the Code of Hammurabi—these moral laws and rules that are handed down especially in the Sumerian versions when we see kingship discussed. It's described how humanity without being governed and guided falls on a more primitive side and needs that guidance. As in, it's described how these sages and these groups create civilizations and they come from something that is very different than the world around them. And when they go around and meet other groups of people those groups of people, they create those civilizations and those civilizations always get corrupted. They never survive, they never make it, they never get maintained

38:16 But what is the goal of that originally? What's the purpose? Well, the purpose is that you have this understanding of the moral necessities of how to create a civilization. We know them they became their religious moral codes don't do harm to thy neighbor and be respectful and don't hurt others, don't steal all those are just there moral codes that are embedded in our in us like what we know that we can violate because it's part of our more code That's not something that a bunch of dudes with pens and ink decided just to put together because they wanted to. That was actually brought down from like, a higher place—something that was needed and understood for our growth and development or we wouldn't. And so what this concept more is is imagine all of that understanding of how to create a perfect civilization like Plato talks about with the Proto-Athenians? How do you create the perfect civilization

39:16 Well, they describe how you have to have these moral codes and this mindset of who you really are what your part of in what your responsibilities are in order to foster. What you would want to call creating that perfect society? the society that allows everyone to thrive and grow in a higher way and be connected. That was the goal and purpose all along, it was to create these perfect societies and civilizations that could reach these higher states we know that all around the world. The teachings are very clear We think we know a lot about like ascension teachings and everything. The Vedic, the Sumerians, the ancient lost era civilization and Egyptians and ancient Peruvians they knew way more than we did way more about that stuff than we did energy consciousness were just scratching the surface now of understanding what they did which means that they had all that knowledge okay

40:11 They had all this deep understanding of how our world needed to be balanced and what our roles are, what our moral roles are as humans. What our roles are in the universe and we were once great. Our civilization, the greatest civilization, the greatest men and women that have ever lived were part of that lost civilization time And we're trying to get back to that. We're not writing a new story, we're trying to get back what we lost where the Maya and the Aztec became corrupted and went down a dark road. We're trying to get back to that origin point. And that's how I see this now answering your question why would I say that in that way? Because all of those things were so integrally important to these lost civilizations that they created societies around them

40:59 They created secret societies, mystic mystery schools. They didn't all have to be secret it wasn't the idea of like hiding it was the idea that it was for specific initiates is for those who are different to see in a different way that were something was noticed in them and then these initiatives are brought him there taught all these incredible gifts and they then become teachers but then go teach others now that system is what created that balance and created the Golden Age in our past. I want to make that really clear, that is it! That knowledge that came down then was having us learn about the ascension and being divine beings and what we're supposed to be—that was already here and it was known, it was traveling around, it was maintained in libraries, in ancient temples and pyramids... That's the whole point of this. They were protecting it and balancing it and maintaining

41:51 on like a massive earthquake around the world. And they understood things that we don't understand at all today, but they were wiped out 95% of all of those great sages and teachers all died giant tsunamis or changes wiping out those civilizations right? There's just a few survivors not survivors are like indigenous they're fine because they've lived off the land forever but I'm talking about these higher conscious civilizations there all wiped out specifically them, not the indigenous. And the survivors of those civilizations then go off to try to rebuild again. We see that very distinctly in the building styles and the advancement around the world and they tried really hard. That's what the Inca are! The Inca didn't build any of that advanced stuff we see like Ollantaytambo, Cusco, Saskatchewan... None of that is Inca all that's pre-Inca. The Inca stuff

42:47 is the stone, more primitive stonework that's on top. That brick and mortar work we see, that's the Inca. That's all they knew how to do. It's the same thing we see like in the Maya or the Aztec or in Egypt or in Lebanon it's the same thing. It's a culture far later thousands of years later thousands that is trying to fix everything and rebuild it, but they have no idea how to do it. They're like those kids that find a bunch of tools like high-end tools for maybe an engineer or something. They're kind of banging on stuff. They have no idea what they are doing. They only can grasp certain aspects of this because those great wise sages and teachers? They are all dead! They all died. And all that was left from them was those groups that they then pasted

43:33 and what they wrote down, and what they tried to preserve. That's all we have left now I'm saying that is prefacing everything to tell you my answer your question because you have to understand it Now imagine societies emerged out of that knowledge, one of them being like Hermetitism right? Out of Greek with Hermes. Profound connected to that source ancient Egypt with like the Book Of The Dead and all these like the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi scriptures right? All these ancient things Gnostic and pre-Egyptian texts that came out of that were hidden Hidden in caves, right? For those who don't know the Nag Hammadi scriptures were found in a cave along the Nile that had been sealed and hidden during World War II. Hidden by the Gnostics to preserve it and hide it. Why would they want to do that? Well at the same time of this legacy of ancient knowledge and these great teachers over past that are trying to preserve it in peaceful means, peaceful Gnostic groups and stuff well something else emerges at the same time

44:33 you get powerful empires, specifically the Roman Empire who is collapsing. Specifically its western side is collapsing and it reemerges in the eastern side with the Byzantine Empire with Constantine and Constantinople that's Turkey today there we found this very interesting series of events that occurred around Constantine with this Council of Nicaea and Constantine adopting Christianity as the main religion for what's called the Holy Roman Empire later on. There was decisions made during that in the Council of Nicaea and by Constantine, they thought okay

45:13 We can't have all these pre-Christian texts that completely contradict a lot of some of the things that are said and the origins, how old they are. So what we'll do instead is let's go travel around the world and let's go destroy and burn every single thing we could find that has anything to tie back to this." And then let's take the Council of Nicaea, for those who don't know. It is a council to determine what ancient text and what teachings would make it into the Bible and what would be cast out or left out. The best one by far is the Book of Enoch. If nobody has ever read the Book of Enoch—the secret book of John in the Book of Enoch—it is unbelievably amazing! But the Book of Enoch specifically

45:54 Book of the Giants and others. I encourage people to check that out because it was one of these patron saints just like we see everywhere else, except they said some stuff they weren't supposed to say and that was cast out and taken out and then these other things were massaged into place, we'll call them okay? Now at the same time, the Holy Roman Empire and other war empires are kind of conquering the old world in these old sages in these ancient groups are being wiped St. Patrick's Day could not be a better example of that, the last of the Druids which is one of these ancient groups that is teaching about all these pagan far pre-Christian concepts called the old religion was about reaching higher states of consciousness through this divinity within and our harmonic balance with Earth and the cosmos so Saint Patrick, for those who don't know was tasked because his father was a Roman official he wasn't but his father

46:52 And so he was tasked with going to Ireland and Wales, and basically exterminating and getting rid of any Druid pagan group that was not a Christian. So it's probably the saddest holiday and saddest story you can imagine because people are celebrating and drinking their green beers and everything. It is the celebration of the saddest thing you could ever imagine. It is the last of these groups that were protecting that knowledge that was wiped out the Druids were the last real group around the world that was still maintaining and protecting that. When they were wiped out, they were the last real sacred group that was doing that and when that happened there wasn't really anyone else. And what I mean is there was but the opposition in the world was so dangerous that they all went underground. All went underground! I don't mean necessarily physically underground... They went into hiding and they became what we know as Seeker Societies today

47:52 They started in a very, very pure and beautiful place. So the secret societies that emerged out of the Holy Roman Empire in that time period were based on this idea that if they didn't preserve these ancient teachings and this moral code then it would be lost so they were protecting it on that level because they knew that they couldn't come out of hiding because how volatile the world is and how controlled it was So imagine empires are running around doing all their war things around the world like the Holy Roman Empire, and you have secret societies trying to maintain this. I think that's what the Knights Templar were actually as well. And then imagine that those secret societies like the Knights Templar are then hunted down and exterminated and killed off

48:44 And then the only ones that emerge out of that, or most of them I should say are the ones who are willing to go down the dark path of corruption and control and using that information to control others. So very secret societies were trying to protect this ancient knowledge ended up becoming some of the ones who ended up becoming the controllers Mm. What a summary! And then you'd assume that the ones that are still around today, even though their numbers they say are dwindling like the Freemasons Scottish Rite in particular... I'm happy to talk about the Masons because i think that needs some clarity Okay And I know some people are definitely not going to want to hear this because it's difficult for them to hear. I have definitely gone down that hardcore conspiracy road back in my day, years and years and years ago where like everything was right? Like oh my god look at all this! Look the Freemasons symbols are the same as others ahh! I actually think the Freemasons are the only group left. Hmm...and i think that they're not what they used to be

49:44 the knowledge and the structure of what they were is no longer what they used to be. But do you know why they have a compass? Do you know why they have angles shown on that when they show the Freemasons, the 33 degrees has to do with these initiations for you becoming a greater teacher and master of understanding something specific. They understood that humans it's about this self mastery It's about the self-mastery component to become something far greater than you ever started with. And we all have that potential within us, but how do we get there? They saw this idea and for those who are going to freak out at the unfinished pyramid on the dollar bill what it really means is it has to do with

50:30 this idea of rebuilding the ancient world, but it ended up becoming corrupted. So look at America as an example. The first 17 presidents or so are all Freemasons. They create Washington DC to be like a sacred geometry design, like a pentagram and you have all this stuff. It's woven into the designs because they know that creates an energetic type of effect cause they know things They're like part of that last bit of knowledge that's carrying from those groups. So they try to create America as that idea of rebuilding that ancient world again, and that's why there are so many places that have sacred geometry and interesting stuff with those individuals 100%. I mean, that's the whole idea but imagine after the president stopped being Freemasons because at some point after 16 or 17 presidents, there were no more Freemasons anymore

51:19 they're gone. So it's funny to me how people are like, wait a minute that was the control section except what about all the rest of it? What about everything from that point on where then you get the Federal Reserve involved with like the Rothschild family and then you get these fights with bloodline families like the Kennedy family and others that is some deep underbelly of what's going on with this infighting. I I think that's what happened, is that it was inherently trying to be built on those principles of like a new Atlantis or a new Athenian civilization. And that's why you had the Constitution and other things they got laid down to have that same type of characteristic but even that got corrupted. It's the same thing over and over again. It's this corruption of what was pure and beautiful. And I think that that's ending now

52:06 Ending. Over! As we're entering Aquarius, that dark age of Pisces is going away from us and those models that suited before are dissolving and being destroyed. And Greg I am working with some powerful people around the world in order to help rebuild that Earth grid and rebuild those mystery schools and sanctuaries right now. And that's part of what I'm doing on my greater mission, even beyond these discoveries and the work I'm doing with ancient mysteries in the First Cross and these lost civilizations is I have a much grander view of this. I have a grander plan, and my grander plan is that we need to bring the greatest sages and teachers of this world and come together to rebuild what once was." Tanner Iskra

52:58 Yeah, I hope to chronicle the journey as you go through the phases because it seems quite lofty. Especially if we're talking Earth grid, you gotta deal with various nations and... Well, I'll tell ya how we're gonna do it! Okay. I wanna lay the seeds right now Greg. You are the first one that I'm going to tell this to. Wooo! First one ever okay? Excited This is new let's call this The Grand Plan. The grand plan for Aquarius for humanity. I think that what has been lacking is the right organization, bringing people together at the right time for the right reasons. And that is what I want to create." Now imagine Greg you have an ancient earth created around the world that has to do with energy centers of planet and if you build those structures they become harmonic balancers of both the energy and balances of cosmos in the Earth but also like ascension temples They're both now imagine Egypt The Great Pyramids of Egypt is the center node of that entire thing

53:59 Think about it, the Great Pyramids of Giza. Three pyramids representing the Earth, the Sun and the Moon in harmony, this balance okay? Now imagine that some of those structures are kind of destroyed partially, some of them are still there but the energy is still there! What was created is still there, it hasn't gone away. It's more like a hibernation. It's dormant, it's waiting Now, I realized through a lot of this that it's not reasonable to try to rebuild the Earth grid. It's just not. You can't go into nations and ask them to be building stuff—that's never going to happen! At least it's not feasible right now." So I realize we don't really need to do that

54:42 We have something more powerful, Gregg that they didn't have. We have eight and a half billion people on the earth right now. They did not have that okay? And we have the greatest ascended masters and teachers that have all come for right now for The Great Party of Aquarius this age of transition into a higher state of consciousness Now this is what I implore in the world and i want to lay these seeds down as one of my goals in all of this far beyond these discoveries in the documentary work I'm doing This is on a whole other level beyond that I want to create an already in communication with a lot of powerful spiritual energetic leaders and others around the world is i wanna create the first reactivation of the earth global meditation of the entire world bring together the greatest energy spiritual healers, this planet and bringing them all to each site.

55:32 all of them globally in one time, every single ancient site all around the world and doing a singular global meditation at the same time to reactivate the Earth created reactivate the energy that once was this planet. you know, increase the vibration raise the frequency. I think that's all that needs to be done to reactivate this Earth energy crystal grid. That's it is that we can sing it back into existence and then once we do that We create sanctuaries and mystery schools around the world around these Energy centers, and that's how we can maintain them

56:08 We don't have to think in 3D way any longer. We can come at this in a whole different way, but Greg what would happen if you took the greatest humans on this planet and all put them at those spots with those energetic nodes and like reawakened it activated something? You know what would happen let's find out we're going to find out right I like that a lot now I was going to ask you about pyramids too just because you mentioned them as libraries I'm sure you get this a lot of what were the pyramids well you know just to preface The common thoughts these days you got dr joseph farrell saying there's a giza death star you got christopher dunn say no it was like a tesla power plant those ideas are all right i mean they're fun but i don't know if they resonate with me because I don't see a lot of equipment in their and icy pyramids all around the world so we gotta talk about how is this pyramid all around

57:00 Well, another idea that came up recently with this guy Analog who does some great work is he thinks they were bunkers. He thinks they were ways to get out of the next cataclysm like you know if there's a flood the highest point of the obelisk or the highest point of the pyramid you would see it's very robust there's tunnels underneath a lot of them A lot of people say, you know they're taken down or told to get down into the earth because something bad is happening. There's stories like that. Well that's Derinkuyu. That's the underground cities in Turkey and Derinkuyu at on Cappadocia region Yeah which is an amazing site So you said potentially libraries I like the idea that their consciousness machines They're not libraries! I don't think there are libraries

57:45 Well, I like the idea that they're consciousness machines. Consciousness projection machines... That seems to be where you would probably go. Okay so let's take two sites right now to start with this. Let's take the three great pyramids which i'm not going to ever call them Khufu because Khufu had nothing to do with The Great Pyramid we know that. The Great Pyramids of Giza and then go to Teotihuacan other side of the world both of those locations were mimicking almost exactly except for some slight differences In Teotihuacan in Mexico, the Temple of the Moon and Sun have a slightly different type of shape. It's a pyramid but it's a different kind of pyramid whereas in Egypt is appointed pyramid but where I'm trying to get at there is that Teotihuacan and at The Great Pyramids they have the same exact mimicry like they're literally mirroring each other so what you have is... You always have one of these structures represent like Earth

58:43 Another one represents the Sun, another one represents the Moon. They're connecting that in a harmonic way but not only that they're also connecting to star constellations like Orion and Sirius and others so if you take Teotihuacan and you have like a view where it's aligned and you take the Great Pyramids of Giza do you see that they are both aligned to the Orion constellation? And they both mimic Earth, Moon, Sun in a harmonic way. They are on either end of the world And they're almost identical in what their purpose is, in design. In the sense of how they're laid out, how they're mapped everything you start to see that all around the world. You start to see that every ancient site is on like an energy earth line. It's an area where convergences of energy of the Earth comes and they built these incredible structures right on those spots now in the example of Giza why I think Giza is the central node of the whole thing? Is

59:44 It's built on what is called the 30th parallel of the Earth. It is an area that is very specific, that a lot of other sites are build on but not only that it's build right at halfway point in the entire planet like this balancing point if you were to learn about that plateau of Giza You actually find out there is enormous amount of ground water aquifers That are right underneath because how close the Nile River is The whole areas like that and even though its desert on the surface And didn't used to be there's an entire network of water underneath that functions in these systems. We know that the Great Pyramid of Giza had very specific shafts that were going down in, and they had these energetic, possibly acoustic properties with water. And we say that because go to a site south of there, go to the Osirion

1:00:32 And you'll see much the same concept. These underground areas that are built, that go down in and attach to these aquifer systems, they connect into the earth with these aquifer systems and they got these giant solid slabs of granite stones that are not for mummies or tombs so what are they for? I feel like we're entering this idea that they understood regeneration, they understood harmonic balance with the Earth and the cosmos. And so what do I think they were for? Yes, they had the ability to allow us to reach higher seas of consciousness by being literally designed for being these harmonic incredible places on the Earth but I think their purpose was

1:01:11 all of their purposes, because I mean there's always multiple reasons why you do something. But I think their ultimate purpose was to be balancers of the energy of the Earth, balancers of a grid an ancient grid that once existed that they were balancing those destructive Earth things that happen where everything gets destroyed and that's why if you look at the Great Pyramid of Giza You go down in the Assyrian, you go down into that whole Serapim area some of the granite boxes were like exploded from too much energy And I imagine that if we think about the Younger Dryas catastrophes, which is what I think destroyed this whole grid 12000 years ago. Imagine they're all trying to maintain that and they all just get destroyed in the grid collapses in like all the civilizations basically succumb to disaster because The Grid was like maintaining that balance on the Earth. It was maintaining that balance of the planet because it can become very unbalanced and angry because of various reasons but

1:02:07 Why isn't it unbalanced now then? Why aren't there volcanoes going off everywhere and we're all dying. Well, because there seems to be something else in place that's balancing it for now and I don't know exactly what that is but I can tell you I speculate that it's happening in Antarctica right now because of the toroidal field of energy on Earth and how if you were gonna balance... Because what you really need to do is balance the poles from wobbling and the magnetic sphere. That's what we're talking about here And I think that something might be going on down there with that, with using Nikola Tesla technology. Because our Earth is strangely stable right now and it's 13000 years ago since the last event. And I look at this in a sense where people think these catastrophes are coming again to destroy us and actually think that because of our technological means combined with our ancient understanding you brought up The Adam & Eve book. There's your proof right there they knew about it long time ago

1:03:02 if had a long time to develop that understanding of how to combat it. Because I mean, think about it, if you're groups that are very smart like they are and they know about these cycles and they know that they're vulnerable to being destroyed, you would want to get ahead of it as soon as you possibly could. That is why I think so much secrecy in for one of the reasons that so much secrecy exists down there with some technology like this because I think they're trying to quietly prevent our own destruction Or, you know just to throw this at ya if you have control if your the apex of the modern pyramid and your this big elite cabal. And you've got us in a negative side and you know that historically the pendulum is supposed swing back to the positive maybe balance it out to be like let's keep this going a little longer. You can't do that!

1:03:53 If you tried to do that against the Earth, you'd probably destroy yourselves. The Earth has a natural cycle imbalance and I think what they're doing is maintaining the poles from wobbling too far though. It's maintaining the magnetic sphere balance not... The rest of the earth does what it wants okay? I don't believe you can control the earth to keep humanity in a low state. I don't think that anymore, it's about cycles of energy and about cycles of energy in the cosmos and how we go through low conscious states that are what the energy is allowing. And then there are other evil men who take advantage of this. Absolutely! I'm not saying they doesn't exist but taking advantage of a situation that is being allowed to happen

1:04:34 Us killing each other and destroying each other in war was being allowed to happen during Pisces. Is it being allowed to happen now? No, wars are stopping all around the world. Look at that conflict right now that's going on in the Middle East! That may be one of the last conflicts I think we have." I think humanity is coming together as a global people, and we're going to continue to reject that energy. Okay? That's a take that is definitely unique. Most people are saying we're going into World War III and will look back at the history books in this would be like the first steps, the preface. I hope you're right obviously who wants World War III. Dark Night of our Soul, the last...I feel like if you looked at the Ukraine conflict

1:05:12 There were so many players trying to push us to World War III on that, and people were like sorry we're not in that consciousness any longer. We're not going to allow that and that's why I think it didn't happen. Well yeah i think they're trying again and I hope you are right They're gonna fail because energy and consciousness follow cycles that they cannot dictate It's a dying system that's grasping at straws and they will fail Well preach! I like it So before we go, we got to talk about the film you're working on and any other upcoming work. You want people to get excited about what do they need to know? So I'm part of a major major expedition that's right now with plan for May will see if that changes but it is not that far from now That is going to be five countries starting in United States at a museum at Penn and then going to to Ankara and then like Vaughn and then Peru Bolivia and Egypt

1:06:08 We're creating both expedition content as well as a documentary film for this experience. There are a couple individuals that are newly added, I cannot mention yet but I will mention them in the future. We are bringing some very heavy hitters. Some things have been adjusted slightly but it's about bringing in the greatest minds and skill sets we can of people around the world, scientists experts and what we're doing is seamlessly doing this whole thing at one time, which is like that's how expeditions back in the day were. Remember back in Magellan days of like you weren't back for months right? And you're

1:06:48 Look at my journal, I just wrote a thousand pages about Southern Africa. They don't come back! If you want to understand and learn something and explore a mystery you have to put yourself in every concept of it like embody it with you. You have to be there, live and breathe it that's what we're doing is exploring this mystery of the origin point to Lake Vaughan from the original Sumerian narrative back to the beginning It's a story that weaves from everything being handed down and lowered of the first cross, and these conscious triptych teachings. And all these were like lowered there in megalithic building sons traveled around the world in sages to other parts and we're creating all these civilizations based on that. And that's what this amazing documentary or film is all about, and if you want to be a part of that please go to thestageoftime.com and you can actually help contribute towards that movement because we always need more to help with this it's turned into more

1:07:42 not even just that expedition and that documentary, but we're going to be going all over the world to connect this. It's like a whole future plan of my life is to take experts to every one of these locations and try to recreate and piece together our ancient past in the knowledge of who you really are." It's amazing. Yeah, it seems like a lofty expedition now you also have tours is this different the tours that people can actually join you on next year I'm planning on hosting a tour to Lake Vaughan? I don't have that set up yet but that is the goal is to at least do something like that I would like to be able to do some of those going forward and just don't know exactly when it's gonna happen awesome

1:08:21 Right on well the stage of time is the website the epic of humanity is the new book matthew it's been a god damn pleasure once again, i love the way you talk about this stuff and are doing many things and many people want you on their silly little podcast so i appreciate you taking the time. You're the man. I hope we can check in with you for many years on this wild ride, but until then keep up the great work and take care! Thank you Greg i really appreciate our conversation until next time my friend all right man have a good one you too All right my dame he's Matthew LaCroix you know him you love him I appreciate his energy and his passion and his optimism He's very confident that we're all going to be okay I like that I want to be more like that

1:09:09 I wish my reading of the tea leaves was as positive, but who really knows? And it's also a matter of time depth too right. Are you looking at the next two years, the next 20 years or the next 200 years when it comes down to it? I ultimately think the universe will only let us be okay but our particular lifetimes might be in a certain bottleneck in this story Time will tell, but either way lots of super interesting stuff about the Anunnaki story and megalithic sites. New finds in Turkey It was fun to talk to him about the download experience and the story of the ancient map found in the cave Caches of ancient documents still existing is really one of the most exciting ideas to me it's like hidden lands secret places in the Arctic regions

1:10:08 Some kind of records that didn't get snuffed out. I guess the common theme is that, I just hope that it's not all already discovered catalog labeled bagged and tagged you know? I just want there to be some mystery and some excitement left in the world And when you talk to a guy like Matt LaCroix How could you feel any other way Just a good time Dependable Reliable Glad i could get him back If you only heard the free first hour, we added a lot to the stack in the plus show. We talked about the cosmic play, the time Lords maintaining balance as described in the ancient texts Matthew's own activation download experiences I think I'm getting a lot better at picking up on which guests had this kind of cosmic triggering energetic experience

1:11:05 Not all of them talk about it, but after about an hour of getting into their material sometimes I am more likely to ask than I might have been before. But it might be something you guys have noticed is popping up a lot more often this year so far! With that said, I also asked Matthew about his favorite obscure ancient texts and we talked about Antarctica and some mysterious stuff Point of the pine cone and ancient symbols that people still wonder about. Sign up for plus if you like what I do $8 a month, five two hour shows a month and a seven day free trial to get you started there are other benefits as well but let's not pretend people care about those but i should also say in the last episode with Ryan Christian I forgot to do the whole score on the previous episode thing

1:12:04 So let's just get them both out of the way when it comes to. The show two episodes ago with Ronnie Pontiac and his anecdotes about knowing Manly P Hall and some of the material in his book, American metaphysical religion plus people rated at a 4.1 out of five which I consider not too bad because the content I had planned versus the content we got recorded was very different. And I think what I had planned was better And I was a bit worried because of that. But the reality is that nobody knows what they missed, they only know what they heard and it seems like most people were happy enough with that and what else matters ultimately? I just think when some of the anecdotes and personal stories take 10-15 minutes to tell if you've heard them on other podcasts, that's a lot of recycled time

1:13:03 Now, the benefit here seems to be that a lot of people hadn't heard Ronnie tell these stories on other podcasts. Great! They're not bad stories in and of themselves it's just the third fourth time it's like okay this is something I don't need to hear again and there were some comments like that I should have done a better job stepping in but the issue with a personal anecdote is that he's giving a lot of context so that he can come back around and do a callback and stick the landing up. The story there really isn't a place for me to just jump in and say, I'm glad you told half that story let's move on. You really kind of got to let it run its course. And in my experience jumping in with those kinds of long-winded guests, It's only going to extend the story. And if I could just stay quiet and let them

1:13:56 finish, then I can jump in and try to move on to something else. You know, I like to think I'm pretty self-aware. I suppose there was something I could have done somewhere but again if a lot of the people who listened to it didn't see a problem then I guess no problem exists! I just wish it was more about the book and less about the nuances of Manly P. Hall's opinions and the moral leanings of a potential hidden hand Because that stuff ends up being way more hypothetical unless here are some interesting facts about America's lesser known esoteric past. But hey, again I guess i'll just shut up and take the 4.1. Sometimes that rating does disappoint me but in this case...I will accept that. Now Ryan Christian, the last episode? That's sitting at a 4.8!

1:14:51 And that is not surprising. He is a very reliable, real-world, real time geopolitical events commentator and he does it well as we know 4.8 is about as good as it gets and I'm really happy We're coming off such a high score and now we have Matthew LaCroix dropping and I can't imagine It won't also be right up there too I will add the one thing in my outline that i skipped over was the mysterious statues of the Bada Valley, in Indonesia. There's a lot of megalithic sites in the world and people tend to talk about the same ten but this was something I hadn't heard before apparently there are like 400 statues and 30 of them are human-like forms not exactly human but humanoid

1:15:40 And then there's all sorts of other stuff like huge bowls and things that look like they might have been tools or instruments rather than simply decorative. I really let it go because it is something you should see if you haven't, and the image from his book is also the same image on the Wikipedia page but if your interested, the main statue people tend to highlight and take photos Looks a little like an Easter Island head, or I should say figure because they're not just heads anymore. It looks like an Easter Island figure mixed with something from HR Puffin stuff and i would think it was an AI image if it wasn't right there on the Wikipedia page... Not that Wikipedia is often the ultimate source of truth but you know what I'm saying

1:16:28 Bada Valley is just b a d a and it'll come right up. So if you're interested in this sounds new to you, I think you will be impressed with what you see. It's weird that I never came across it before but pretty intriguing design. I was just talking to some friends about AI art and video and how crazy it's going to get. And yes this is a cliche conversation but we're lucky that we existed in the pre-AI media world Because there's gonna be UFO stuff and Bigfoot stuff and giant bone stuff all the mysteries we love. There is going to be super realistic, highly manipulated completely fabricated out of thin air images that muddy all the mysterious waters we like

1:17:19 But if you've been in this space roughly since the nineties and early two thousands, and you've kind of combed over every image of big foot. Every great UFO video clip that's out there. You kinda know the space but imagine your like 14 years old today And you're going to grow up in this world being curious about the Loch Ness monster curious about Bigfoot and you can have a really hard time vetting The imagery you see because Pandora's box is open. Somebody sent me something the other day that I just looked at and I was like, that has to be fake because I know this space and I would have saw that five 10 years ago if there was anything to it. It's just kind of like the too good to be true principle we don't get evidence that good. And if we did, I should know about it before the age of AI manipulations

1:18:19 Now I'm saying this right after telling you about these statues in the Bada Valley, I hadn't heard about. But to me they are under the threshold of absolutely game changing and they're just interesting and that's how you got to vet any images you see going forward but enough rambling good show great dance partner what else can i say let's look at the meetup calendar higher side meetups.com listeners making events to meet other local listeners, here's what's coming up March 15th there is a meetup at urban brewery and Manchester Connecticut that looks like it is actually a crossover event with no agenda I've said this plenty of times but no agenda is really the podcast that I adopted the meetup idea from they really should get all credit

1:19:15 And I've tried to say, especially when this was just starting up. Hey open up the calendar every show doesn't need to make its own calendar but if Gramerica wanted to have a local event they could just use the calendar if any other podcast wanted to just test the waters you don't have to build out this huge infrastructure just use my calendar It's not about stamping the higher side brand on something. It's about people that are on the same page, whether they like tinfoil hat more or my show more not really that concerned about that I just want this service to exist so that if the shit goes down again you aren't abandoned by everyone you know if that was your situation last time

1:20:01 So it's nice to see a crossover meetup. I'm sure it'll be like five to one, no agenda people because they seem to respond a lot more to the community events than our people do but you know It's not our first rodeo either also on the books there is a Winslet North Carolina Meet up at The Red Oaks Brewery on March 23rd also on March 23rd Saco Maine at the Golden Rooster, March 30th Fieldhouse Brewing and Abbots Ford British Columbia Canada. And then I'm seeing some April events already on the books in Tallahassee Florida Huntington Indiana and Carbondale Illinois check the calendar for more details and RSVP it's really just good manners to let the host know what to expect but good stuff i like that people are finding the others around them

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