Marty Leeds | Gematria, The Mathemagical Code Of The Universe & The Alphabet Cipher

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01:00 decodes the square and compass symbol of Freemasonry, and explains the hidden code behind the English alphabet, The King James Bible, dice, astrology, synchronicity music, and a buncha great stuff. And anywhere you can find this episode, I tried to include a picture of Marty's cipher for decoding the English alphabet. It is important to get a good sense of that because it is how all these interesting connections are made! the higher side chats.com slash donate or when you sign up for THC plus there's also options for getting plus and adding a little for the money bomb it's gotten a lot smaller obviously because it's sort of competing with plus members but maybe one in ten people is actually putting in for that's totally fine but I just don't want to get rid of entirely, it makes a big difference for people so it looks like we're giving away about 200 bucks this time right now so donate five and you might win two hundred or so

04:27 But without the initiations, rituals and secret meetings around the sacred statue of Moloch it's damn near impossible to put the whole puzzle together. Well today's guest Marty Leeds has been working hard on some of these aspects with a great code of our reality And when you add Marty's pieces to the puzzle I think the picture starts getting a lot more clear although complicated. Marty is a self-proclaimed mathemagician and author of three books Pie and the English Alphabet, Volumes 1 & 2 and The Peacock's Tales. His third book in the series, Pie and the English Alphabet is slated for release in early 2015 He has an ongoing YouTube lecture series and online radio show discussing everything from myth math spirituality philosophy sacred geometry lost civilizations and the holy sciences a scholar a gentleman and all-around badass Marty my man welcome to THC Hey thanks for having me

05:13 Yeah man, this is great. Thanks for being here! I watched about 10 hours of you teaching about the mathematical code embedded in our alphabet, the Bible and a whole host of other areas and it's impressive man but it seems so hard to talk about...I mean how do you usually break people into this topic? Yeah, that's the difficult thing I have when I do these podcasts is explaining this stuff on the air because we are dealing with a lot of it is dealing with symbolism. A lot of its dealing with geometry and mathematics and a lot of times when you have these conversations you can get lost so... Gematria is the art of assigning numbers to letters. And so basically what's my work that I'm engaged in, is focused on looking at this phenomenon through the English language. So basically the idea is that when they modern 26 letters are the modern English alphabet was formed it was formed using a mathematical structure or what's known as a cryptogram or a cipher

06:05 and we can go into this but we can explain how the numbers to letters, how this whole thing works. Now the... We need a little history here before we can go into that because Gematria has been known for a very long time some of the major languages especially that the Bible has been written into two are main ones being Greek and Hebrew absolutely had ciphers for their languages meaning the construction, the syntax, the orthography how languages are put together how words are formed and things that are behind names and concepts ideas there's mathematics behind there. And so we know for a fact that Greek in Hebrew had this So all I'm basically all i'm doing is my thesis is saying yes there is absolutely one that was created for the English language and now we can start to understand this and we can understand it through the symbols and ideas of things that we find

06:57 well, like the Freemasonic square and compasses for instance. The Jewish menorah, the tetragrammaton things like this and we'll go into some of this but that's basically what the focus in my study is. This brings in all so many different aspects about reality into one holistic study though because it's done through our language So, we can look at symbols. We can look at astrology. We can look at astronomy. Like I said, secret societies. We can look at names and concepts in the Bible. We can look at games such as chess and dice and billiards and backgammon. And we can look at these and find out that every single one of these things has a mathematical foundation. That's basically what geomotry is in a nutshell. As your intro said

07:43 I have a whole lecture series where i go and look at particular things like I said billiards, I do a whole video on billiards. Chess, I do one on chess. I do a video on the name of Jesus Christ breaking down the mathematics of it and like I said there's probably...I mean I think there is 50 or 60 videos out there that got a bunch more I'm working on so Yeah, and then no problem. And it's that's a pretty good introduction and it seems super fun I mean, I've heard you say this was kind of interesting that most people think of numbers as just quantities You know, I've got three books or two apples or I performed six ritual sacrifices but numbers they can also be equality Can you explain that distinction? That's kinda interesting

08:23 Yeah i mean this is a very important thing to understand when we look at mathematics and this is something that basically within the modern understanding of mathematics, thats being taught in our universities and things like that. I would say its kind of basically wholly dismissed, it's that numbers have qualities to them And every single number does. So when you look at a number like two, you're not just looking at two apples or two oranges etc., like that You're actually looking at what is the number 2 mean? Well we can go out into the universe and see that the number 2 has equality to it and when you look at the number 2 it has black & white, yin & yang, up & down, this sort of thing This is known in philosophy as reconciliation of opposites

09:06 So we can look at a number like 2 and say there's equality to it. We can also bring in the geometry of this, and see that has equality so we're not just looking at the quantity were looking hey what is what is the number two in geometry? Well its just two points that doesn't create any sort of plane or any space for movement. There's nothing spatial about it Now let's go to the number three Well, three is not just once again It's not just quantity Not just three oranges You actually have one two three points That come together to create a triangle And this is what you could call the embryonic polygon of creation But its' the first geometric form that you can create in 2 dimensional space So therefore by the very nature of its geometry it has a quality to it It has...you know..that sorta thing

09:48 This is what numerology really, really is the study of. Now when I say numerology a lot of chances are people are just going to be like oh he's a numerologist you know this guy's a kook, a crank, a charlatan kind of thing right because that's a lot of times that's what numerologists are they're full of shit but what numerology really is number logic That's what numerology means. Ology means the study of or logic And then numer means number. So basically all numerology is the entire study of numerology is understanding that there's a number logic so when we look, they're basically two forms or two sides of the study of mathematics it's the quantitative and qualitative and its only when you merge these to do we get the full understanding of full comprehension of what this study is? And so that's whats important

10:42 The problem is that we've been taught mathematics from our federal education system, which is god fucking awful. I mean it really is and so when people approach mathematics they see mathematics in this very cold clinical dry you know its really convoluted ugly And really, when I – as an autodidact. You know, I study all this stuff myself. I didn't graduate college or anything like that. I just pursued this study myself and when I went into it, I realized that there's a harmony, there is beauty within this stuff. Actually, when you get down to brass taxes in the nitty-gritty of it, it's really simple

11:22 And you can understand these things and you can see them all around the world. So yeah, man I'm sure you get this all the time But i've never liked math kind of like what your game every show i do man every single show? Just like you i kinda dropped out of college and there were a thousand factors but math was a huge one and i've done so much learning since then it's kind of ironic but I was just done with it at the time and as I've learned about sacred geometry and things like your work, playing with numbers and seeing them as more of an art. I have started to look at it differently and its kind of funny because now I'm looking back at people that I know in my life who really were more math people and I wonder if they saw the art despite it never being shown? And thats why they got it you know do you see that alot more with people when you start to approach this side of equation

12:11 It's absolutely amazing how many people that have contacted me, that have said God I hated math until you taught it to me. That was my whole goal. a writer or researcher or you know anything like that, even a mathematician or linguist in any sort of capacity. I really feel like i'm a teacher and so i'm trying to and of course i made my own discoveries and things like that but really what im trying to do is take everything that i've learned from all these other fantastic and wonderful researchers and presented in this very clear-cut, very terse straightforward way that people can understand it. And I think that if we actually had an education system that did this people would not be scared of math because they would be able to look down at a flower and see it and be like oh okay that's the degree of phyllotaxis Oh! That's the Fibonacci sequence. Oh! That's the seal of Solomon in the head of a flower

13:05 And you start to realize that what these, especially when mentioning the Seal of Solomon. What a lot of these ancient sacred symbols are actually referring to. They're referring to universal architecture and this is what all of the ancient cultures understood any like golden age civilization or any sort of advanced civilization understood that there was, there was a harmony. There's proportion, there's ratios that there's a construction of our universe and it's based on the canon of number. It's based on number in geometry and these frequencies without we find within the number this canon of sacred number that we find within sacred geometry. We find it within music as well you know? And we find it within time. We find it within space you know really what

13:50 understanding numbers does is brings all of these things together and realize these are not separate things that we're studying here. It's not like we're going to study time, and then we're going to study space, and then we're gonna study music, and they were gonna study spatial relationships now We're gonna bring it all together into one holistic study And we can do that through the foundation of number Mm-hmm. And I think when you start to learn that stuff as more synchronicities happen and more things connect, more dots connect it just propels you to be more interested and that's something that in 15 years of school just never happened. And on the subject of the school system The thing for me is always as a conspiracy minded person Is this a purposeful thing or an unfortunate coincidence? But when I look at the school system It's like

14:30 It's purposeful. Yeah, I mean the elite they have tried to hide this stuff and put a lot of effort into making it that way so it seems like purposely making math boring is so people will avoid This type of study for the rest of their lives And that's exactly what we have yeah That's exactly what is going on right now. I mean, that's...I even look at it in the context of my own life. How long did I steer away from mathematics? Even though apparently I'm somewhat inclined to be you know understand mathematics and yet I never touched it for years because I was like, geez! I got a C in college algebra man and yet here I am writing books on pi

15:07 That's insane. If college was meant to actually teach you these things and high school was meant to actually teach you these things so that you could understand it and take it out into the world, see your world and understand your world then you should be able to get it right away I went through how many mathematics courses and things like that and it never struck me It is only when I went on my own to learn this stuff that I really got it College especially college is pretty much a scam you know when it really comes down to it you know all of the things that you can learn in college you can learn on your own, no need to go to spend sixty thousand dollars to replay those republic you can just go to the local bookstore and pick it up for about nine minutes like that line.

15:54 in Good Will Hunting where he says, you know, you spent $150,000 on an education. You could have got for a dollar fifty at late fines of the public library? I mean how true is that? Exactly! People are enslaved...in debt, enslaved by going to school to learn these things and what are they doing? They're basically regurgitating something that is taught them as opposed to actually going out learning this stuff and making your own discoveries Right. There's actually a book called The art of scientific investigation by WB Burbridge I think is his name. I might be getting that wrong but basically the whole book is about how all of major discoveries in the world were discovered by people that had flashes, had revelations, that were out on their own discovering something it's not like they were stuck in a classroom and all sudden the light came on

16:40 No, they were out learning this stuff themselves and this is where true discoveries are made. People that are going against the grain, going against the status quo, going out on their own, going into peripheries of thought and pulling something out bringing it back to humanity saying look this makes sense, this can be verified you know? And we actually have a lot of researchers in our own time maybe thanks to the internet maybe thanks cosmic cycles, maybe thanks to how many people are on this planet. Whatever it is that are doing that right now and that's what's so beautiful about our time Yeah, man. I totally agree with you. I think some of the most fascinating thinkers never really did that well in school and it just makes so much sense that they wouldn't but... Didn't Albert Einstein flunk out? Yeah! Exactly. And Jacque Fresco is another guy like he's a futurist where he has the Venus Project but yeah He was done with school at like age 15 and he was just reading books in the library instead of going to class. I think it was even younger than that

17:37 It's just funny, the college thing. The tuition aspect is a funny angle because if any one of us had just 20 grand up front to start a business or start something we could probably do amazingly well but you're not even really allowed to do that it isn't a choice because they'll only give you the money for school yeah there's no other thing that a person who's 18 with no credit or no assets can acquire a $20,000 loan. It's the only reason and it's sad you know? I was...I mean when i graduated high school um..i mean i was scared to the bone about what i was going to do with my life and there was just an enormous amount of pressure to say well you better go to college what are you gonna get out in just you know but change oil for living as if there's anything wrong with being someone who changes your oil is nothing wrong with that

18:25 wrong with that. But I mean, that was the whole pressure. It was like what are you going to be a loser for the rest of your life? You better go to college and get that degree otherwise … And I fell victim to that. I did go to college for about a year or year and half and I remember when I was in college, I was very curious person and things like that. I ended up reading a lot of my own More so than I, I mean, I read more books on my own than I did in the college classes. You know? I remember reading Carl Sagan at that point and I was reading Edward Abbey at that point and things like that. And I remember...I was like what the fuck am I doing here? I'm reading more on my own in my college dorm then I was learning anything in college.

19:03 And I need a disclaimer here, whatever. It's not like I'm saying if you go to college you're an idiot or something like that. You know? I'm just saying that the things that you can learn there can be learned on your own and unfortunately we live in this time where it's like well you need that college degree to get a job but now we even know that that's kind of bullshit. I know how many people that have graduated college that are not doing anything in their... That they studied for. Yeah they have the same job they've been having part-time all through college Let's dive into your work a little bit, man. I know it can get confusing especially without visual aid but to decode something you need a cipher and you've uncovered the cipher for the English alphabet that reveals a lot of this sacred knowledge and some other major traditions that we have in our culture and its gonna be important for the audience to have a clear picture of the ciphers so they'll understand the connections right? I mean I know you do this all the time...I guess lay that out for people

19:57 Okay, yeah to a little cab forward here caveat before we start anything that I'm talking about here. I don't want you to believe me. I ask you not to believe me question everything i'm saying don't trust me and then what I want you to do is go out and investigate this stuff yourself Because that's the most important thing because if I'm relaying any sort of quote unquote truth to you whatsoever, you should not have to believe me. It's something that you can verify for yourself. That's what science is so that's the first thing i want to say So anything I'm going over here please double check this stuff and what I've done is provide for absolutely free all the ways that you can go and understand this cipher, and all the ways that you can use it. So like I said, I've got a bunch of lectures for free. I have a blog at world-mysteries.com You could check out this stuff absolutely free. Perfect! What it is we have 26 letters in the English alphabet right? Everybody knows it A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z These twenty six letters what we can do is actually split them in half Split them into chunks of letters

21:02 And we can go and this would be a block of 13 and 13. And notice, we're splitting in 13 and 13 and 13 has always been this unlucky number right? There's there's a psychological thing called tris-connectophobia where you don't even know they won't even put a thirteenth floor in the building actually in my apartment complex here it goes from 12 to 14 I'm in I'm in apartment fourteen Wow! There is no thirteen yeah so with us there's this version throughout history to this number 13 why Well, you know because of there's let's just say it has been a year. You know there's a reason for that, you know? So we're splitting the alphabet 26 letters into 13 letters and 13 letters A through M and N through Z

21:42 Why are we doing this? What's the reason for this?" Well, once again as we kind of briefly touched on before is this idea of the coincidencia positorum. It's this fundamental philosophical idea that permeates our entire reality when you go out into your three-dimensional space and four dimension, you know, the fourth dimension of time when we go out we see opposites, unity of opposites everywhere. This is what the yin yang symbol is expressing this is what the Mayan Hunu K'u is expressing this ancient symbol of black swirling with white. This is left and right opposites up and down opposites forward reverse opposite you know I mean? This is your left hand in your right hand just look at your human body you can split it right down the middle and have a left side mirroring the right side

22:26 So this is why we're taking the 26 letters of the English alphabet and splitting it in a block of 13 and 13, just because all were doing was looking at nature. And seeing how nature works and saying well if language is natural in any sort way then obviously its going to mirror nature so A through M N through Z Now basically what I did walked up the 6 days of creation rested on the 7th putting numbers to the letters as we walk up. So, we're going to take A through M ABCDEFG so we're gonna go ABCDEFG being 1 2 3 4 5 6 and we are gonna rest on G and that's the 7th Now this comes from Genesis right? Right This is six days of God doing work and resting in the seventh right Well what this is actually referring too is a three-dimensional mathematics every single point of consciousness on...in creation

23:18 It's the three, you know it's once again forward reverse up down left and right. That six directions of space resting in a central point and that point is you. That's the point of consciousness of human being. So this is what Genesis actually referring to notice Genesis is derivation of word genetics. This where we get genealogy generation well what do you think genius? Right someone who understands you know etc. So we have this motif, this is a motif that once again permeates our entire reality the unification of opposites so six days of God doing work resting on the seventh were just going to take this idea laid out in alphabet ABCD EFG 1234567

23:59 Now, instead of going 8 9 10 11 12 13 etc. We're gonna just walk back down so we're gonna climb up the hill The holy mountain if you will and then we're gonna walk back down to ABCDEFG 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 H I J K L M is six five four three two one So that establishes the numbers for letters of the first half of our alphabet? We're gonna stop there a second and we're just gonna pause and say okay notice When we walked up, we went A B C D E F G. We stopped on the G Well this is the first- This is the seven notes of major scale ABCDEFG Right? Also if you notice that's the Freemasonic square and compasses Yeah There's a compass pointing up And a square pointing down and there's a G in the center there Well what one of things that compass is referring to One of the myriad things That this compass- This compassin square This insignia Is referring too Is the study and art of gematria

24:55 And that's why that G is in there. Now, the compass creates a circle and the square of course creates a square right? Pretty simple geometry Well in sacred geometrical study heaven is known as a circle as a three and earth is known as four as a square So you have this concept of the merging of three and four. Well, what is 3 plus 4? It's 7! And G is the seventh letter in the English alphabet. So you have the Freemasonic square encompasses telling you about the concepts of heaven and earth... ...and also the concepts of three and four merging together to become seven, and this is referring to Gematria

25:31 So this is one of the things, and like I said one of the myriad things that The Compass in Square is trying to purvey to humanity. And actually have an entire video it's like a 30 minute video showing all the things you can get from us and its just insane! So that why we're stopping on that G three dimensions of you know the six dimensions of space resting on the seventh and etc. So then we have so basically that establishes our first block of letters one two three four five six seven, six five four three two one well notice we created symmetry we created this balance or this mirroring with these 13 blocks of letters right A through M N through Z all we're going to do is because of economy because of simplicity because of elegance because of beauty we're just going to take those numbers and throw them onto the other side of the alphabet

26:13 So NAPQRST is 1234567 and then UBWXYZ is 654321. And what this does, it establishes the numbers to the letter of the correlation number so that a correlation to the English alphabet So and so this is really easy to write out if you know, if you're at home. You can just write this out ABCDEFGHJKLM and then right below it go NOPQRSTUVWXYZ and then just write 1234567654321 And you have the cipher the cryptogram for the English alphabet that is being decoded or encoded concealed within the emblem of Freemasonic square encompasses

26:53 Now what you can do is find pi within this. You can find pi actually twice within this cipher, what is pi? Pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter. So, this is... it's a mathematical constant and it's really kind of been this... It's a mystery man! There's something very elusive about pi because pi is this infinite number right? It's an infinite transcendental irrational number when you say irrational just means that there's no ratio that we have two whole numbers or even two whole numbers we can divide to find this particular string digits This number just goes on and on and on. It's 3.14159265358979, you know this thing just goes on there has been 10 trillion digits of Pi that have been calculated thus far And yet we can't see the tail end of this thing So it is really this central focus, this mystery within our creation thats embedded within mathematics That really kind of helps us question gives us some clues into what is going in our world so pi is a central focus

27:56 Pi is abbreviated 3.142, this is a very common abbreviation and what's important to understand is that pi must be abbreviated at some point it doesn't matter if you're doing algebra or engineering or architecture any of that stuff You have to abbreviate pi because its infinite nature so 3.142 So now we can go back to our cipher and pull out the non-prime numbers So a prime number is a number divisible by 1 in itself. So the prime numbers would be 2, 3 5 7 5,3,2 Well the non-prime numbers would be 146 and 641 so we're going to pull out the non-prime numbers one four six six four one One plus 4 plus 6 plus 6 plus 4 plus 1 equals 22 And 22 notice there's only then there's the number seven that the whole thing is balanced on it's the center The GNT 22 divided by seven is three point one for two

28:50 It's an approximation of pi. So and what's really interesting is when we once again, we looked at the Freemasonic square encompasses to help us decode this. We looked at a symbol to help us decode this quote unquote Jewish menorah is symbolizing this very thing right? because you can actually literally lay the Jewish menorah on the non-prime numbers and then the central pillar will lead to the seven. And I've got several videos on this that you can double check yourself, and you could do it yourself. And one thing i wanted to throw out real quick was when people are visualizing... One thing that I thought was great that I saw in one of your videos if you look at a Ouija board

29:26 The letters on the Ouija board, the alphabet on the board is separated A through M and then right underneath it N through Z in an arc-like pattern. In the top of the arc, the very highest point is the center, the G and the T And that's kind of interesting Then if you can imagine taking a menorah and laying it on them On...on the alphabet on the Ouija board pattern These are the nodes where the candles would sit these are the numbers that add up to pi I mean this is pretty interesting stuff man Yeah, actually it's funny you bring up the Ouija board because this third volume that's because I basically explained the cipher three books and explain the cipher in different ways in each one of the books. So when they use the Freemasonic square encompasses and the tetragrammaton another one is dice etc.

30:11 And the next one is going to be the Ouija board, to explain exactly what you just said. So when you look at the Ouija board... It's like okay what is the Ouija Board? Well it's used to contact spirits of the dead and talk to your grandmother in another dimension or something. Well no! Really what its there to do When you strip away all the bullshit if you will Is pass on deep occult truths about the nature of our language So, so basically once again we establish pi on two sides of our alphabet A through M and N through Z. So Pi begotten by 7 if you will 3.142, Pi begotten by seven 3.142 Well when you bring these two Pis together one of the symbolic representations of the Tetragrammaton which is the holy name of God it's known as Jehovah or Yahweh is known as Pi-7Pi-7 And this exactly what we find in our alphabet

31:03 So, bringing the two pies together you get this symbolic representation of God if you will. Well why this is important it's called the Tetragrammaton. Gramma means message and that's where we get the word grammar So it's like, okay here is this representation of God that supposedly told to us in a book and then it's like where do we find this thing? Well obviously its telling us that has something to do with language. This also, I mean we can't get into this right now but this is also one of the things they're talking about when they say in the beginning was you know God, in the beginning was the word and the word was with God Talking about word, we're talking about language. So you can't really get into that right now but one of the other things that is important about the Tetragrammaton is the tetragrammaton in Hebrew gematria was he vibe he odd and this was the numbers 56510 well this equals 26 and there's twenty six letters of the English alphabet wow

31:57 So, but even more. Now we're going to take our cipher that we just deconstructed and go to the names of God that we have in the Holy Bible. And there's two names of God and they are combined to become Lord-God so there is Lord and God. Lord in this cipher is LORD which is 2254, this equals 13. And God in this ciphers 724, GOD is 724, this equals 13. So we have 13 and 13, and we bring it together in what do we get? 26 so the tetragrammaton the Hebrew gematria equals 26 there's 26 letters of English alphabet And we look at the name of Lord God using this cipher that I got from The Holy Bible and it equals 26 man It fits pretty well

32:43 It does and you say okay well it's just a coincidence, you're just playing with math. But no I'm not playing with math because what you're doing is having there's an exactitude in precision and anybody that uses this cipher will get the exact same results 100% of the time 100% of the time So, the problem with anybody that wants to make some sort of criticism against this is that all you're doing is – if you're going to criticize this or try and tear this down. All you are doing is criticizing empiricism. All you are doing is criticizing the scientific method because that's what I'm using as mathematics. Well how do you think modern science interprets the world and deconstructs the world? They use math man! So, you're gonna get the same results every single time

33:25 And so this is, that's just the cipher in a nutshell if you will. Now another important thing is once again we rested on seven God rested on seven now Seven is an extremely important number, right? I mean everybody knows even if you've never studied comparative mythology or done interdisciplinary studies or know anything about mathematics. You've obviously known that seven is a very important number throughout myth and spirituality and things like that. Seven days of creation, seven chakras, seven deadly sins, seven notes at the major scale, seven stars with the Pleiades, seven big dipper... Days a week? Seven days a week, seven tablets in the enuma leash etc., etc., etc.. You could just go on and on about them

34:04 7. Seven in the cipher S E V E N is 6 5 5 5 1 this equals 22, 22 divided by seven is pi so the number seven in and of itself encodes Pi period end-of-story fact you can double check it yourself And then you say, okay. So now we have Tetragrammaton Lord God the number of letters in English alphabet all coinciding in this harmonious beautiful way and then you look at the number seven it encodes pi as well and he said okay how is this even possible? You know, and yet it is. It is. Yeah man! It's real trippy and I've heard you summarize this work by saying language and numbers have a fundamental relationship that speaks the interconnectedness of all things and that sounds really great but there's a slight disconnect for me...I mean it seems to all fit but when I'm trying to figure out why?

34:59 Geometric principles are natural, numbers and quantities exist in nature but language is like a man-made invention. And unless you count Klingon and Dothraki English is fairly modern language so they must have just put incredible detail into forming it I guess to make it all fit right? You know this really gets to the question of when man creates something, when you and I create something as an artist or whatever. If i write a song or whatever where does that come from? Right the muse maybe Yeah where does it come from now obviously like artists are secretaries for angelic revelation if you will we dictate

35:37 things that come from the other, the ether of the invisible landscape. The astral plane need the nation of images that is your imagination You know you're bringing these things down and bringing them into the material world and interpreting them But so much I mean when you especially when you talk to a lot of artists? I've heard are I mean I feel this way I've heard I don't know how many musicians talk about this I've heard stand-up comics talk about this now when they're in that mode of creation They're just – they're a conduit for it, that they're bringing it out. That they're just opening themselves up so they can bring it out. I mean I've heard Chris Cornell talk about this. I've heard Adam Duritz say this. You know, I've heard Tom Waits talk about this. Like I said, a bunch of comedians talk about this. In fact in jazz music, this is called real gone.

36:23 It's where you're so in the moment that you're just bringing these things out. Well, in my opinion when these people that were creating the languages at the time were basically aligning themselves if you will with this fundamental principles and creation and allowing this stuff to just flow out of them with this deep understanding of nature or reality. This is why it became sacred. This is why all of these ideas became sacred Because they were realizing that and this is really what you're talking about is the way. You talk about the Tao, you talk about the ever flowing way of creation well an artist or somebody who's in tune with shaman or you know a psychonaut or whatever anybody that's in tune with that is getting aboard you know it's good is jumping into the river and let him flowing with it

37:10 You know and allowing that river to take them you know where they need to go, and this is where the creative impulse I feel comes from. So this is where we have to really step back and say Okay, yeah. Well this is impossible because man created language or no languages just evolved well really we don't know I have no idea you Don't know nobody that's listening really truly knows and we can't go back in history to say yes This is exactly what happened But we can do is take a look at it now and deconstructed and say yes there was intention there And that there are definitely sacred principles embedded within it Now why this is important? Is pi is a constant in mathematics

37:48 And Pi is encoded within our alphabet. So the people that were trying to pass on this information to us absolutely understood pi and absolutely understood the nature of, the importance of pi you know? What's also important is man didn't make math we didn't create numbers We didn't create mathematics We didn't create geometry All we're doing is interpreting it from The Great Creator The Grand Architect Nature The Cosmos The Universe Whatever the fuck it is You want to call this thing We're interpreting it and bringing it into our world to help us understand our relationship with it. Yeah, well said man! And I wanted to double back to the square and compass for a minute because you know I'm watching all these videos, listening all these presentations... ...and I tried to mess with some of these numbers myself but I was thinking about the square and compass and if the circle is 3 in the square is 4 that makes 34 and they're supposed to be 30

38:41 three degrees of masonry, you know the 32 and then the honorary 33. I wonder if there's a secret degree of masonry that nobody talks about above 33 because the numbers do equal 34? Man there are so many different places we could go here because we could look at 34 or we could look at 43 just a curiosity. Yeah, oh yeah yeah um when you look at the 33 degrees of Scottish Rite Freemasonic Ascension right number 33 is steeped in esoterica and occult right I mean once again this is just something that even if your haven't really studied these things chances are you came across the number thirty three you know? When you look at 3 plus 4 is 7

39:18 Well, there's seven chakras in your endocrine system. Now if you don't believe in the chakra system or whatever well you really do not have to but you know that there are places where the nerve currents come together and there are seven points of these and that is just straight anatomy so you have the seven chakras on your spine right? Well there are 33 bones in your spinal column So you have the number, you know, the heaven and earth coming together and referring to the number 33. And once again, you see it's attached to that number seven, it's attached with the free mesonic square. You know, the whole thing really allows you to pull all this together. The other thing about 33 is that 33 is actually 34. Well what do you mean? Yeah well you forgot one thing. You forgot the zero

40:04 Giving you 34 digits so 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 etc to 33 giving you 34 digits a lot of times when we do mathematics We forget about the first number or non number is and is basically refers to the immateriality Of the other side if you will, you know what? So and another important thing about this. Is that every single mathematical system that you use in incorporates the zero You know, like for instance we're on the internet right now and the internet is a binary system but it's not a system of one and two. It's a system of zero and one so that's just one way to understand that If you don't mind let's talk about this idea of the concepts of heaven and earth what the hell even means? And why is it referred to as compass and square

40:51 When I say heaven, most people refer to heaven as in that we are understood through the literalist or fundamentalists. A lot of times it's called fundamentalist version of the Bible right? The people read this document as a historical textbook if you will well it's not there's nothing real about the thing It's a story of myth. It's symbolic stories and you're not supposed to take any of this literally The first verse of the Bible is Genesis 1-1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth Well, by relating these things what they're doing is trying to teach you about geometry. So that by relating these things to geometry what we can start to understand is the nature of our own minds and the limitations of our own minds and how we can really understand the archetypal way that we think, the symbolic way that we think in how we interact with our world. Heaven as known as a circle there's a three and earth is known as a four or it's a square okay let's break this down

41:47 The circle encapsulates the most amount of space, right? So if you take a length of string and make it square or any sort of polygon. A rectangle, triangle... If you make it a circle that circle will encapsulate the most amount of space, area period. That's just how it works. Really what you have there with an innate symbolism of the circle as you have the all or the entirety of the whole mess. That is that is encapsulating now what's important about this circle is that we can never truly find its area why because we have to use pie, we have to use pi and pie at one point we have to approximate as we were talking about before

42:30 So, we can never ever truly find the area of a circle. Why this is important is why it's related to heaven? Because we can never truly measure the heavens. It's the infinite right and that makes sense that would be attributed to a circle because you know like I said pi is an infinite number we cant see its tail when look out into heavens how far does this shit go? We don't know! Where's the edge of universe? I dont'know but now look at square A square is earth well we can measure the earth We can measure the earth. We can take a length of tape and measure this thing, right? So now when we look at the square...the square-we can always find the area of a square! Always because all we have to do is square something so if the length of a side of a square is 2 well two times two or two squared is four so therefore we know the area of a square. This is why heaven is known as a circle and the infinite

43:21 And earth is known as a square. And so this is why the and once again, this is not This is not me just placing these ideas on this. This is something inherent in the geometry now this motif of having been a circle and Earth being a square is all over it's in Buddhism It's when they build this thing that's called the semi hemispherical structure called the Buddhist stupa and they use this motif of heaven being a circle and earth is square. In alchemy you have the same thing, one of my favorite alchemical illustrations is the one I reference all the time it's called Rebus and its by...I'm forgetting his name right now sorry but you can look this up and basically this man

44:01 human being that's got a head of a woman and a man, and he's carrying...he she the hermaphrodite is carrying a square encompasses. And it's standing on a circle an in that circle is the numbers three and four And so we see it in alchemy, we see it in Buddhism. We see it in the Judeo-Christian canon with Genesis 1 and 1 beginning God created heaven and earth. We also see it in the Freemasonic square encompasses So this is an idea that's prevalent all over you know? And so all we have to do is actually go to the mathematical language of creation To understand what they're referring too Yeah, man it just blows my mind and I think you also showed in the video. I believe the symbols for the seventh letters in and out of the Egyptian hieroglyphic alphabet Also sort of symbolized pi too right? Oh sure yeah where the G&T in the in the Egyptian language are actually the 180 semicircle And then the other one is that oh...I'm not sure which one it is

44:59 God, it's escaping me now. But the other ones like a delta and something else which refers to 180 degrees as well Exactly And so you have basically 180 degrees on the G and then 180 degrees on the T? And I think the T is the one where no The G is the one where it's a vessel or a cup and then there's that triangle that's put in there You know and of course but esoterically and symbolically if you know, uh, you know spiritually this is referring to the vessel That is you You know, you're the vessel. The vessel is and then your care you're capturing the Holy Trinity within And so and then not now So you take the GNT on both sides if you will of the Egyptian alphabet and you put it together Well, what do you have? You have 360 degrees of a circle and that is split within 180 180 well What is that well, that's the geometry of pi

45:43 That's what it that's what I'd be referring to. So you have this same idea within the Egyptian hieroglyphs as well Yeah, that's so weird to me that you can take totally separate languages lay out their alphabets mirror one side of the other look at the symbols in the middle which would be another having of it and They they reference pie It's like what the fuck is that? yeah, and but the idea though with there are only seemingly separate Yeah, exactly. And if you understand that there's an interconnectivity of number that lays the foundation of our creation and underpins everything we do whether it be words coming out of our mouth or how coastlines and mountain ranges are formed then you realize

46:25 The Egyptians weren't some alien species that were living a few thousand years ago. No, they were just like us and whether we are cognizant of it or not are using the same principles of geometry and number that are embedded in creation. And so it allows us to see that no, we're not separate even though the languages might sound different even though word constructions are different and things like that but it still allows us to bring all these different things together understanding that beneath is the numbers. Yeah man, I mean it would be really interesting find out if some linguists or people who know like 10, 12 languages I wonder if they subconsciously tap into the recognition of these patterns to make it easier.

47:05 You know, that's a good question. I don't know. I mean, I know the problem with modern day philology and linguists and things like that is that there isn't any sort of cross study you know? That there isn't interdisciplinary study where it's like, you know, I'm a linguists so that what I studied. I studied languages well if I mean, in order to truly understand language if it is built off number well you better understand mathematics as well. You know we have the same problem right now with a lot of people that are consider themselves scientists or whatever you know? That guys like Lawrence Krauss and Neil deGrasse Tyson or Richard Dawkins and things like that. Well Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist right? Neil DeGrassi Tyson is a theoretical physicist or whatever. Lawrence Krauss is a theoretical physicist.

47:50 So, if we're going to them for their explanation of the world well that's the explanation that we're gonna get. We're gonna get the explanation from a theoretical physicist so they are gonna look at the world as a theoretical physicist. They are not gonna look at the world as you know sacred geometrician and they are not gonna look at the world as a poet and they are not gonna work look at the world as a psychologist there not gonna look at the world is a symbologist you know things like this and I think it true holy science the truth sciences can help us understand who we are where we came from what doing here and the nature of reality is bringing all facets together. That's what a true scientist is, and when you look at all of the ancient polymaths in the world guys like Da Vinci and Isaac Newton they were into all sorts of shit man it's not like they were just well I'm a physicist

48:32 So I understand what's at the heart of an atom or something. No, man they were looking at symbols, they were looking at poetry etc., etc.. And I think that this is what we really need to do if we're going to understand our reality is bring all facets together so besides you know this modern day There's sort of this like pulse that is going through the collective consciousness, right? Or the paradigm that exists right now. And it's one that is based on science but its not really based on science. You're actually incorrect there because a scientist is gonna explore every single avenue A scientist is no just gonna explore 1 slice of pie or 2 slices of pie or 14 slices of pie It's gonna understand 360 degrees about things and that means you have to bring in every single facet of our reality together into one holistic science

49:16 Yeah, well said man and to take it back to schools like we talked in the beginning the nefarious design of schools There are no subjects that are more divided than literary students in math. I mean science and art It's those are the two divisions and separating language And math again, it seems like a very concerted effort is made to make sure that few people specialize in both Well, it's not even taught whatsoever. I mean you can buy books this is what we talked about before going back to this. It's like you can buy...I have probably four or five books on my shelf that i'm looking at right now that exactly talk about the fact that there are mathematics behind languages

49:55 Go to any college and see if you can try to find that. Maybe they're out there, maybe I just don't know about them but I certainly wasn't taught that in fact i just did the sync book summit this past weekend And I took a few days off work and came back to work, and my bosses were asking me because they really don't know what it is that I do. So they're asking me like so what do you do? Is it numerology or what? You know? And so I started saying well there's mathematics languages and things like that. They were just kind of dumbfounded. There was this straight blank look on their face because its like well I was never taught that in college. Yeah no shit!

50:31 And no shit, you weren't. Does that mean it's not a legitimate study? No! It is absolutely a legitimate study. The thing is that your'e not going to be taught these things and this where occultism and esoterica and things like that come in because it's kind of the subversive studies that you're not going to be taught in any sort of, like I said classroom or things like that. Well you mentioned The Sync Summit and my good friend FrederX was supposed to be up there but I don't think he made it but... I know! I was so bummed man. I got to meet him at the Freer Mind Conference and yeah we- He is a really great guy. Yeah really looking forward to speaking with him again but yeah he just couldn't make it because of funds

51:09 And one of my questions for you was going to be what your thoughts on synchronicity, because I'm sure this kind of ties into what you work with. Yeah, I mean, synchronicity is when people start to get into the study of synchronicity and mainly it was kind of brought forward by Carl Jung, the union study of psychology and philosophy and things like that. When you get into synchronicity, you realize that one other thing that's synchronous allows you to understand is the world is not built as a machine You know it's not this nuts and bolts cogs in gears kind of thing you know if that the world is more for lack of a better term magical and mystical. It's a story that's being played out, when we have synchronicities that happen you can't the thing that is very important as you can just step back and say oh it's all illuminati new world order or you know some global cabal control faction that running everything that has their hands on every single

52:08 A good example is what just happened with Robin Williams, right? Robin Williams. He hung himself in a door and supposedly whatever. And then of course you had this family guy episode that was going to air that night or something like that or the day before or whatever and they ended up taking it down. It's like OK well Jesus what are the chances right Well how many people online automatically go to well its the Illuminati You know its the Council on Foreign Relations thats doing it all They plan for Robin Williams death I don't know maybe but I mean, honestly when you look at this you have to understand that there's something much more going on. That you can't look at all the synchronicities in the world and blame it on some New World Order or some Illuminati or The Skull & Bone Society or whatever it is. That there's something much more going on here. Now, the people that are in power – the quote unquote Illuminati whoever it is – I

52:56 I think in my opinion, they understand that this is how the world works and so they use that to their benefit. But that doesn't mean that they control everything it's impossible to control anything no one's in control. Control is C-O-N-T-R-O-L This is 3217522 this equals 22 there are seven letters in control twenty two divided by seven is pi what's in control? The universe is in control control, the great creators in control. Synchronicities allow you to understand that this is one way that the universe works and it's not some cut-and-dry nuts and bolts kind of thing but there is a magic to it and this why I think synchronicity is very important thing

53:36 I love when you break down certain words and put them on the cipher because another one that just drove me nuts was the word knowledge equals 33 which is 33 degrees of masonry, and they hold knowledge. You know it seems like they know what's going on here Yeah, I mean like common sense equals 33. I think virtue equals 33 knowledge you Abbas a Darian Abbas a Darian is a person who understands its person who studies the alphabet That's an ABA A B is of course alphabet abyss a Darien equals 33 and you did a video on Hermes Trismegistus And that had an interesting equation there

54:14 Let's do this. Hermes, hermes equals 28 so h-e-r-m-e-s is you know 6 5 5 what is it? 6 5 5 1 5 6 this equals 28 right? Hermes was also known as Thoth right? Um, thought this th O T H. This is 76276. Um and so that equals 28 So you have the same mythological character being Hermes and thought both equaling 28 right? Well Hermes is known as Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus. This is also the Roman god Mercury right? Mhm. So we're talking about the planet mercury closest planets of the sun The orbital path of mercury is 88 days

54:54 So, it just whips around the sun super fast. 88 days. Well 88 divided by 28, Thoth and Hermes equals Pi. It's 3.142. That's, oh that's an absolutely arbitrary connection. You're just putting the number of paths or you know the path of Mercury and then putting it to 28 okay? Okay now let's step back and say look at your hands right now. Look at your hands if you're out there look at your hands and count. You have two sections what they are called segments or they are called phalanges on your thumb so there is one too it allows you get that 90 degree of your thumb to bend and grasp and grip the world. Two sections on your thumb and then you have three on each finger

55:33 So you have four fingers three and each so that's a twelve and then you have to run your thumb being fourteen. So the segments of your hand equal fourteen correct some fourteen see if two hands will that would be twenty eight so the number twenty eight is on your hands right now grand piano is eighty eight keys Right. The grand piano is 88 keys, so when you put your two hands on the piano and you start playing whatever it is Franz Liszt or Happy Birthday, whatever the fuck it is you play in the piano, 88 keys and 28 phalanges. 88 divided by 28 is Pi. Well that's why you're playing the PI Anno.

56:11 And that's the exact math. You could say, well whatever but what about if there are 71 or 61 keys and things like that? But no the grand piano...and why the grand piano has 88 keys is because this is basically their range that human beings hear at It's a 7 1 3rd octaves you know and you can even go to a piano and hit that low key it's like And then the rhythm went ding, ding, ding. Anything beyond that it's like basically the human being can't essentially hear it you know so thats why there is 88 keys on the piano because its understanding whoever created the piano understood the principles of number understood the resonances and harmonies that are built within creation and they're built right in our hands

56:53 God, that's fascinating. So we talked about the mirroring of the alphabet and G is the seventh letter in and then if you go from the back, the seventh letter would be T and T is pretty important as well. You want to go into the T a little bit? Yeah, so when we stopped in G and that was the Freemasonic square encompasses. That was number 7 right? And so we saw that seven the word itself encoded Pi equal 22 and 22 divided by the word seven is 3.142 So now where we stopped on the other hand was D as you were saying and T is known in mathematics as tau

57:31 Well, where pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, tau is known as the ratio of a circle's circumference to it radius. So half the diameter and this is twice Pi so 6.28 instead 3.14 if you will So, these are two fundamentals in mathematics once again. These are prominent constants in mathematics pi and tau the tau cross in mysticism is all over you know basically all it is two lines coming together to create a T what are those 2 lines? Well just stick your arms out and put your feet together and your whole body creates across that creates a T

58:13 This is one of the things that Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man is actually trying to unveil to us. The Vitruvian man is the circle and a square, and in between that circle in the squares the ancient Roman architect Vitruvius. And he was sketched by Leonardo da Vinci just in his sketchbook this really small thing thats you know it really captivated artists for long time because like what does what is he trying to refer to? Well what he's doing is referring to the Tao cross Tao and mathematics, the circle and square heaven on earth three and four and the tao is extremely important because really the tao The Tao Cross really, I'm going to get into mysticism a little bit here. But really what the Tao is representing is the cross of matter that your body is the vessel once again it's the car, the vehicle that the energy of the universe resides in and descends into now we know that this material world will pass right?

59:12 I mean, you're born into this world and you're going to die. Somebody's going to watch your body get put into the ground and eventually disintegrate." And then we say what happens with that energy? By giving us Pi and Tau – we understand that pi is a fundamental representation of the creation of our universe with its infinite nature, its transcendental nature, in the fact that we can't see the tail end of it, it's representing infinity but tau gives us the idea that okay, that pi if you will the energy of the universe goes into that material world and so it's bringing both of these things together and its bringing them together through mathematics once again. Something

59:53 We didn't create something that the universe created to give us, to help us understand who we are. So I know that's – I may not be hitting that directly. You know what I mean? I may not be addressing what I'm trying to say directly but this is just one of things that we can get with Tao. Now Tao is very important in fact there has been a debate about whether to use tau or pi when understanding mathematics. Like for instance, when you look at a sine wave, sine and cosine in understanding like the fundamentals of trigonometry right? Well tau and pi are both used but tau is actually easier to use because when you measure the center of a circle to the edge, you don't measure the diameter, you measure the radius. The radius is always one

1:00:38 So you get that, but the diameter in pi is one. But we never measure it that way. Whenever we perform mathematics, we always start from the center and go out to the edge and that's the radius. And so that's one. And so tau is an easier way to help us understand this but they're both important. You know? That's why they're both on the central GNT of our alphabet because once again these ancient people who understood this stuff implicitly were trying to pass this information onto us. Something else I was curious about, man. And you've touched on this in other talks and other interviews but when you think about the intelligent design of the universe, the Fibonacci sequence phi ratio and all these things do you think that some of these truths that we extrapolate would come to folks more naturally if they spent more time in nature or with with a certain kind of mindfulness? It seems like their level of exposure in the natural world is pretty perfect You know what I mean

1:01:29 Yeah, I mean this is you know when people have asked me like okay well how did you like how did you figure this stuff out? How did you come about this information and what drew you to this. Well um i mean number one i've spent a lot of time reading all of these absolutely fantastic researchers guys like John Michel guys like Michael S Schneider Ari Schwalder DeLube it's John Anthony Wesk or you know uh watching guys like Scott Onstott and reading his books, Randall Carlson. You know there's a bunch of researchers that I've spent and learned so much from them and am trying to purvey this information but one of the other ways that i came to understand this was spending a whole shitload of time in nature

1:02:04 I mean, I'm like an avid hiker. Pretty much every weekend I would go out and then go hiking spending just a ton of time in nature basically just alone with my thoughts in this contemplative meditative state and kind of being within nature and looking at it. Let's go into something here actually to try explain what I am saying. There's, in numerology one of the base numerological principles is called decimal parity. It's called digital routing it's called Kabbalistic reduction it's called Pythagorean addition but its this basic idea of understanding once again the qualitative, the essences of number and what it is you take a sum of a number so we're going to look at the number 134 right? And all were gonna do is go 1 plus 3 plus 4 equals 8 right this is the crux of numerology if you will

1:02:59 Now, what numerology allows you to understand is that there are basically 10 principles in the universe that create the universe. Ten emanations of God as it's called in the Sefer Yetzirah. Ten fundamental archetypes that are embedded in number that allow us to interact with nature and understand it and this why we have ten fingers. And this is the numbers zero one two three four five six seven eight nine being ten numbers. This is the base of numerology when you go beyond nine 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. You can break any of those numbers down to the digits 1 through 9 0-1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 we get to ten Ten is one plus zero is one Eleven One plus one is two Twelve One plus two is three Etcetera It doesn't matter how big or complex that number you can always break it down to the numbers 1 through nine

1:03:46 And with adding the zero giving you 10 digits and once again, you see that it's on your two hands. Now I was in...I was hiking one time and this is before um I had written my first book Pi The Great Work which is no longer in print It's just a short run because it was just kind of uh Anyway, before I was writing this book. I was exploring these ideas and I was hiking in nature and as Joe Rogan likes to say high is giraffe pussy And I was walking and I looked down at all of the...I live in Oregon and all of the trilliums were in bloom Right? And the trillium is this beautiful flower and it's got these three big leaves. And then there's like a central stalk in the middle, and then there are three other leaves, and it has got the three petals of the flower on top. I was walking and just walking all over and I stopped and looked down at this thing and said okay so the central stalk is zero you have one two three first level second level four five six next level

1:04:47 The top level is 789. And this is how the Trillium was built and I'm not joking man, I must have sat there for 5-10 minutes just looking at this thing being like huh? And it was then that it clicked that this was if you will the fundamentals of numerology and this is the fundamentals that helped build our creation. And I understood this through a flower I didn't go to a classroom and say, hey this is how this works. And it was only when you go the mathematics and you go to the number logic of numerology that it helps you understand that yes, that's true because that's just how the math works. So this one of things when we're talking about going into nature and understanding these principles with nature they're all over in nature man! This what fractals are. You can understand the Fibonacci sequence, you can understand the degree of phylo-taxis all you have to do is go out into nature and see for yourself

1:05:37 Yeah, man. Another example you gave that for some people they might think it's a stretch but I thought it was really interesting is when you're talking about pi... So of course we have the Sun and the only time you can look at the Sun without hurting your eyes is sunrise and sunset when the horizon halves the circle and boom! It's right there You know? It may have taken a long time but that seems like a brilliant way for the universe to reveal tau to us or Pi or that kind of mathematical equation Yeah, so when you look at the sun rising and setting on the horizon. The horizon creates the diameter to find the circumference of the Sun right? And of course I would say that...I mean I don't know because I didn't live back then but i'm guessing that the ancient people that were inquisitive in looking into the universe or whatever eventually looked at that and we're like huh! That's interesting right?!

1:06:28 I understand that there's a line and circle, and maybe I can triangulate that. And then therefore understand how big the sun is." Something like that right? What's important though is yeah that's the only time you can actually look at the sun directly when it's creating pi in our sky. Now horizon comes from the word Horus this where we get the word hours Right? And you look at your watch to look at the hours. What are you doing? You're watching the sun, so Horus horizon those zone of Horus this is where we get a horoscope Horus that ancient Egyptian Sun God right? Horology is the study of the measurement of time So all these things are coming from an ancient Egyptian god of Horus Ra

1:07:12 Horizon in the English cipher H-O-R-I-Z-O-N is 6255121. This equals 22, horizon has seven letters 22 divided by 7 is pi. Morning M-O-R I'm not gonna do all the numbers you can check this yourself morning equals 22, 22 divided by 7 is Pi what happens when the Sun rises on the horizon it's morning So both of those words that are referring to this astronomical event that we see every single day equals pi. What else is important? The sun actually creates pi in our sky because the sun rises on the horizon and sets, and you know set is of course the Egyptian Sun God or I mean the antithesis of Horus, Set

1:07:57 So, the sun rises and it creates a 180 degree arc over our sky. And then what happens? Well that's day and then it becomes night. What does it do mythologically? It goes around us if you will. Now I understand the mechanics of that the earth revolves around the sun don't get me wrong but you understand what I'm saying from our perspective That's what we see well that's creating pi every single day its cutting night and day into half 180 degrees 180 degrees yeah so So that's yet another reference to Pi that we see, that just happens from our perspective every single day. Now I want to say something here too The sun revolves around the earth. Let me say that again, the sun revolves around the earth. Okay this guy's batshit crazy no we know that the Earth revolves around the Sun stupid right? No actually it's both because from our perspective the Sun does revolve around us period from our perspective now the mechanics of the thing if we took ourselves and we took... Now that's our perspective from Earth

1:08:52 But if we take the perspective from the heavens, we see that the earth revolves around the sun. So to truly understand our relationship to the creation, we have to take in account both perspectives Not just the one perspective. Modern science is trying to take the human perspective out of it, right? Exactly! And this is ridiculous It's absolutely absurd and we're starting on... I don't like to get into quantum theory because there's so much quote-unquote quantum quackery out there but we understand this with the observer effect in quantum physics that the observer is absolutely instrumental in understanding our relationship to creation So therefore understanding how we view the sun and how it revolves around us is just as important as understanding how we revolve around the sun, if you know what I'm saying.

1:09:36 I, oh absolutely and that was an area i was planning to go to but it is kind of funny that the universe has designed things To take our perspective into account. It is important you know But then like you said science is trying to look at things totally objectively And filter that out and its like well Its not designed to be looked at that way as odd as that might sound This is once again. This is the coincidence ea positorum this is this ancient philosophical idea that really helps us understand It's not just objective its subjective as well You know and it's bringing both together if you were if you ignore one, you're not gonna get the full spectrum You know If you say I was just an objective understanding of the universe. It's in it's the same thing with um, you know we could say Spiritual and material if you will or celestial and terrestrial if he will

1:10:23 You know, it's these ideas. If you just understand the Earth and forget about the heavens you're not going to get an understanding of the Earth if you're just a theoretical physicist and are constantly looking out into the heavens and not understanding your perspective on earth you're not gonna get a full comprehension of what we're dealing with here It is interesting and looking at these clues in nature, I mean when i look at that. I see another layer of manipulation from the puppet masters because in western society we're so far separated from nature and were focused on these dead dirty concrete cities and conveniently it's another layer a separation from this fundamental truths Yeah, and I mean, I think the ancient architects the sacred geometricians of the past that people that built Angkor Wat. The people that build you know, the Mayan pyramids and Egyptian pyramids You know people that would be built Puma Punku all these things they understood that when they build something They were building artistry that reflected the fundamental archetypes in creation You don't I mean? And so therefore we're at one They were symbiotic with the creator if you will and they were bringing these things out to glorify and inventor eight

1:11:26 these fundamentals in creation. So, I mean this is what we can gather when we look all around the world and look at these ancient archaeological sites that through the study of archaeoastronomy understand that these things not only are embedding sacred geometric principles, not understanding...not only that but you know under embedding philosophical principles, embedding astronomy, you know of star patterns and things like that. It just brings the whole thing together into one you know and this shows that these ancient people were much more brilliant than we ever give them credit for And I think that this is really where Terrence McKenna was talking about the archaic revival. There's been people that have, and I don't want to say his name but there has been people who have sort of been bashing the archaic revival as if we're like oh, we're going to go live in fucking caves again. No man! That's not what he's talking about.

1:12:19 That's not what he is talking about at all. What he is talking about, bringing back the ancient wisdom that has peppered all over the world and all you have to do is go these ancient sites and understand there are sacred principles like phi and pi and Euler formula embedded in things like the great pyramid of Giza. Cycles of time are embedded within Chichen Itza and we can bring those back to help us re-understand and reintegrate our way we think how we act It allows us to put our best foot forward and bring back these sacred principles and embed these into our lives. That's what an archaic revival is about, it's not about going to live in caves or dumbing ourselves down has nothing to do with that it's actually elevating ourselves to understand that the ancient people that lived on this planet that were wiped out by solar storms tsunamis pole shifts ice ages whatever was we're very intelligent and they were so intelligent that this is the point I like to make

1:13:18 When someone claims that our ancient people were intelligent, right? Oh really were they okay well if they were so intelligent what don't you think that they'd be intelligent enough to but to embed things in for instance our language. To pass on to future generations if they were so intelligent they would probably know of the rise and fall and the ebb and flow and high tides low tides of the evolution of creation that they would know that things would get destroyed and that mankind would have to pick himself up again and reintegrate, and we understand these things. And so if they would have to leave these things to us in the future well they did! And they left it in our language They left it in ancient holy books like the Mahabharata and the Holy Bible and then the Talmud...and they left it in these archaeological sites in the Gothic cathedrals The only problem is this We have to go actually understand what they were saying So That Is What If You Will An Archaic Revival Was All About

1:14:09 Well said man, I really actually appreciate you saying that especially in the context of my last show but um Man Marty it has been a real pleasure. This is one of my favorite shows. I love your rapid-fire style I mean all my autistic listeners are really gonna love this one But for anyone else who needs like more time, I urge you really check out the YouTube presentations. They're really good! I love whiteboard videos and you do a great job with them Before we go Do you want to give people some of your links again? Maybe a little info on what else you're working on Oh yeah, sure. My books once again are Pie in the English Alphabet Volume 1 and Volume 2 and I'm working on volume 3 right now and I'm hoping to have it out like early next year but we'll see And then I also have a book called The Peacock's Tales The Alchemical Writings of Claudia Pobonis and you can get that on martyleads33.com

1:14:59 and that's all available there. And I also have some DVDs and a Gematria calculator you can get for your phone, stuff like that if you want. I have a record for sale called Opus Medico Musica and you can get it on iTunes and I believe its still available on Amazon and you can get it from my site as well. And I have a site on Reverb Nation that you can download I think two or three records for free and then buy that one if you want. So, you can check that out. I have a blog at world-mysteries.com it's maybe eight or nine blogs up there that you can read for absolutely free so we can check that out and then i also host the podcast they just started called Marty Leeds Mathematical Radio Hour and you get that at The Sync Book

1:15:36 Sync is s-y-n-c book dot com forward slash martyleads and I'm only on my fifth or sixth episode or something like that but i've had a ball doing it so its, I just get to talk to you. A lot of these fantastic researchers and just really interesting minds so... And probably gonna do that for maybe like a year something like that um.. So yeah look forward to that's and then what like I said most this stuff is absolutely free. You know I mean if you can investigate this seriously for the rest of your life without ever giving me a cent of your money I would appreciate it if you would throw some money my way, but... I like to put this information out free because i think that's important. It is a noble cause man! This has been excellent and I'd love to do it again. Keep up the great work man, fascinating stuff and take care of yourself out there. Alright thanks man, I appreciate having me on. You got it

1:16:23 But there we have it Hireside Shatters, I hope that didn't break your brain and you remained interested because i think its pretty compelling stuff. A much more positive episode after last weeks debacle but people do love some drama now and again so there is that but it was good to vent with someone about the education system in the college trap then talk about the magic of pop the hidden code and language, why it's called a piano. I loved all that stuff! And in the plus show we talked about more interesting examples of this code in the King James Bible how this works with Greek and Hebrew translations, The Astrology Connection, and The Mathematics Of The Zodiac which I'm starting to put a lot more stock in after what Marty had to say and Robert Phoenix who said be careful around August 25th because things are going

1:17:08 highly charged, intense prime for violent events. And look at this fucking world guys Ferguson Missouri right near my hometown is on global news networks for standing up to police aggression and militarization of the cops tanks and snipers on that roof of grocery stores what the hell? And of course the tensions are high in Iraq in Ukraine with Russia and the situation in Gaza and Israel's aggression Robert was right on man I mean there is no area where tensions aren't at their peak. And by the time the next episode comes out, we might all be in shock about one thing or another but take this as an opportunity to tip the scales for good don't just recognize these things and do nothing maybe wave to more people open more doors drive less aggressively it sounds so lame but positive actions do have some type of effect I think on the grand scheme of things i mean my good buddy and occasional co-host Kyle has been going down to Ferguson with his wife

1:18:05 right into the parking lot of the looted Quick Trip gas station and is making food for people for free, just giving it out. They're not talking about race or arguing about the details of one local shooting when we all know that police have been out of line for a long time! This is bigger than just the shooting at Mike Brown this is NOT just a race issue this is an elite vs people issue The haves versus the have-nots And there's A LOT of manipulation going on in this as well so be careful what information you take as fact But never forget who creates the real problems of the world, and don't let them distract us into fighting each other for their entertainment while they're fed grapes on a bed of velvet fanned by loincloth-clad slave children safely in some ivory tower. When things are at boiling point like this it's more important than ever to stay focused and project positivity into the vile invading darkness of the Puppet Masters

1:18:57 And in the plus show we also talked about the harmony and mathematics of music, which has been coming up a lot lately. But we're going to be doing a full show on that soon but Marty being a musician gave us a song of his own to play this whole episode out with and it is called Great Pains for The Great Plains such an appropriate title right now for the people of Ferguson St Louis We know this is just one flare up for a very deep and systemic problem that affects everyone listening in a different way at a different time, but we know the nefarious elite have been tightening the vice in the skull of humanity for a long long time and people are finally starting to stand up and say motherfucker take my head out of this goddamn vise.

1:19:40 I'm sorry, I just watched Casino so it's fresh in my mind. But anyway spread the good word about the Podcast Music Archive send in your music to podcastmusicarchive at gmail dot com check out the new shirts from Conspirates The Riot Cop shirt is actually 25% off right now with a coupon code Ferguson Again thanks for the great and magical Marty Leeds That's it for me this week Your move Joe Pesci Your Boston Move. I had me some rivers to cross, I had me mountains to climb And they were lessons to learn To make me stronger when I return And sure they hurt their mental health sometimes. And I've been missing that Mississippi The Midwestern sun and that dry dead heat The green fields and all the rolling hills Oh baby won't you take me home?

1:21:32 Been hearing my heart strings a-rattle I'm back in the saddle and ready to ride Dirty water's been calling me, darling Oh baby won't you take me home? Got a few old friends I miss Some song and apology And my old line My last chance for my family Need some bitter cold Need twenty inches of snow

1:22:21 And there'll be times when I miss the coast But honey, I know we made the most I raise a toast to it Missing the Mississippi The Midwest and sun in that dry dead heat The green fields and all the rolling hills Oh baby won't you take me home? I've been hearing my legs rattle I'm back in the saddle and ready to ride The dilly water's been calling me darling Oh baby wont'cha take me home I've been missing that Mississippi mud, the Midwestern sun and that drop dead heat. The green fields and all the rolling hills oh baby won't you take me home?

1:23:54 I've been hearing my heart strings rattle. I'm back in the saddle and ready to ride, that dirty water's been calling me darling oh baby won't you take me home?