Magnora 7 | The Rothschild World Order & The Ownership of Everything

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00:44 Alright, Hiresight Chatters. We've examined many pockets of power that have tried to claw their way to the absolute capstone in the global power pyramid. Secret societies, think tanks, religious institutions, multinational corporations, the robber barons, various political dynasties and several other psychopathic power-hungry groups But it seems fair to say that eventually they all reached the impenetrable barrier of banking. Because when everything in the world is determined by green paper, the true king is the green paper printer! And while we have examined the structure of fractional reserve banking before today We're going to take a deeper look at the family at the heart of this debt-based debacle those nefarious Rothschild's

01:23 And with us to help facilitate that journey is a man known as Magnora7. I found MrMagnora through my love of Reddit, where several times i'd find myself reading an interesting post check the author name and sure enough it usually belongs to our mystery man here And he's written some great, detailed well-sourced posts that contain elements of the Rothschild empire that I never knew about. So i asked him to come here and share that information and thankfully he agreed so let's do the damn thing from a deep dark hole somewhere in the digital ether In his first public interview my man Magnora7 welcome to The Higher Side Hi Greg thanks a lot for having me it's wonderful to be here

02:02 Yeah, man. I'm super psyched! I think this gets back to basics in a lot of ways but it also is going to add some new information that i think is well worth focusing on and we planned to start with a good fact-based history of the Rothschilds to give us the proper context for some of the things you bring to the table that I haven't heard before So let's lay that base where do you like to start The Rothschild Story? Okay let's go back to the very first rostral so that's mayor am shall rostral he was born in a 1743 live 1812 his dad, what does the trader and germany no big deal but may i am still rock child got a job with oppenheimer you might have heard of trading coins internationally for kings. And he started doing this and yeah very good at it

02:48 and then he got to the point where he evolved a business to take on more of a central banking role, add wealthy lenders have loaned two kings before but it was usually as a kind of one off you know here's alone once its paid off and we're good. But marriage or i'll try to be idea doing a big central bank that was apart of the government so the government would hand over the money creation ability to the central banks and that was the key they gave themselves a permanent legal ability to control the money in our beginning of the central banking game so from mary am shall ross child then he had five children. And there very religious and part of the old testament or the tour says that,

03:30 You wanna use your children like an arrow out of your quiver. So he had five children and he sent each child to a different country, these are the very famous five children of Rothschild so Nathan went to London Amshell went to Frankfurt Solomon went to Vienna Carl went to Naples and James went to Paris The vienna naples branches ended up kind of dying out they didn't do so well. They gave us some loans and then they end up not getting repaid and i got kicked out the country had to shut down that branch but the paris in london branches came extremely extremely successful

04:09 So the London branch, his son Nathan started this up in about 1820s-1830s and same with all the others. They approached these kings and queens of these big countries and basically said hey you guys need money? And they'd usually in the middle of a war or something like this it would be like yeah we need money so the Rothschild's have what their substantial wealth they would lend to the Kings and then the Kings would owe money back at interest of course and by constantly accruing more and more debt with interest, eventually many governments get themselves into a position where they cannot pay back the debt. It's simply impossible

04:51 This kind of is how the modern database system came to be where money is created through debt so there's always more. That than there is money right so many and simply unrepayable even from a mathematical perspective just theoretically cuz every dollar that's created, A cruise interest immediately so it's through this mechanism basically that going all the way back to the eighteen twenties eighteen thirties, did they started having control these governments so it basically turns out so the government has you talk to the debt collector. Try and negotiate terms which gives them control over the government essentially anyways following the french brand is very popular in london branch banking lineage from london continues to this very day.

05:39 Evelyn rothschild was recently knighted by the UK government. The Queen said that Evelyn Rothschild was quote, the financial advisor to the crown their company NM sons and Rothschild's have commonly traded with The UK and this is how they got there start and then it eventually transitioned into a sort of ownership situation So that's basically the five minute in a nutshell catch up to where we are today. Rothschild story. Man, I think that's great and i also just wanted to reiterate maybe the British arm is the most popular but this British Arm of the Rothschild Squid it still intact as far you can tell right? Because a lot people they feel this stuff is true but its old news and these banks are now all in hands large boards entangled conglomerates But there is still a Rothschild at head of bank today like he said

06:37 Right exactly i mean it was a think it was in the nineties that the queen night at evelyn rothschild as to award him for being long time financial support for the crown so yeah this is where i mean this goes into the nineties. At least and still continues to stay i mean there's still having meetings if you look at really high up, meetings with the crown the ross child always present there is real famous picture of one of the ross child pointing add a prince edward i think it is right in the chest. This is this was ten years ago walking up to him pointing in the chest looking down at them never seen the prince you know look afraid of someone but in this picture it's pretty obvious, yeah it goes definitely goes right up into the state. Right on and i guess the natural question would be

07:25 Why do so many governments just allow themselves to get raped like this? I mean, clearly if we know other powerful people have to know and if the American government can look across the ocean see how this has happened too. Many other countries what incentive is there for even our elite to let this happen because it's hungry for power as they are there obviously on a second tier Right and it's it seems bad to get into this trap which it is but the thing is there's a short-term benefit So the government's usually they're hard up for money and they need kind of a short term boost Of liquidity keep their country going And that that boost is what they seek, and they get that and it does help But then you know you wind up five years

08:12 five years later down the road and then you can't recover the interest that is required it's just like someone who buys a house they can't quite afford, take out of mortgage this bigger than i can pay for get the house up front but then appears down the line you know it all comes do when they can't pay. And that somethings go bad temptation is strong so i also want to ask you The Rothschilds changed their name to Bauer, right? I mean before this saga started that Rothschild wasn't their original name as i understand it. Is that what your research shows too? I've actually never heard that before actually. Really? I have...I think they've always retained the name Rothschild from what I've seen but um you said they changed it

08:55 Yeah, a lot of researchers that I've read have talked about the original name being Bauer and that they changed it for whatever reason. Maybe Bauer was getting a bad rap and so they wanted to just change their name and they changed it to Rothschild because he was putting red shield on his door or something. It gets weird. Yeah, the original Rothschild house had a red sign out front back in 1550s they didn't identify houses by numbers they identified them by symbols and the Rothschild house had a Sign out front and so that did become the Rothschild. That means red shield Basically, so that's where that came from So it yeah might be true that they changed their name at some point But I don't think they really had power until Mayor Amshell came along and worked for Oppenheimer sure And that that's really where the big money came in and that's worth a Empire started

09:52 You know it's like keeping the beach ball in the air if you got past from Oppenheimer to Rothschild is how I view it. That makes sense. And you mentioned that the Italian Naples branch ended up shutting down, and when I was reading what you wrote about that, you mentioned that leading up to it seemed like the other brothers were refusing him loans and that kind of stuff. I wondered why? Why they seem to kind of shut him out a little bit. Was it just poor decision-making on his part so they had to cut the tie Yeah, I think there was part of that and it was just financially insolvent. The government in Naples wasn't working well with the Rothschild's and there was kind of like a Italian mafia that was butting heads with the Rothschilds a lot in Italy is my understanding. And also Karl, the one who went to Naples had seven daughters and no sons so from the Rothschild perspective there was no way to continue the lineage through him

10:50 So that may have played into it as well And one other point about this particular branch, to quote what you say about the Italian branch and Brother Kalman who was the brother in charge of this one. You say he had five children one of whom was to a woman named Charlotte who married Lionel from the British branch her first cousin. The Rothschild's take lineage very seriously and the practice of marrying within specific ethnic groups class or social statuses, rejecting others based on being unsuitable for marriage for all these basis. And you know basically that they inbreed because they consider their bloodline superior and I wondered what else could be said about that? There are claims that range from they want to preserve this German Jewish heritage to full blown reptilians. What are your thoughts on the details of the Rothschild bloodline and why they do what they do? It's not just them too we got Carnegie's

11:48 All these big families, is it just racism and superstition or do you think it goes deeper? No I think its a preservation thing. There's this evidence of look we're so clever we figured out this game that no one else has figured out We're literally trillionaires So who can compare to us? So we must have something special And everybody thinks they are smart But if you have proof in the form of having a trillion dollars It seems a little more convincing So I'm sure these families just convinced themselves that they've got the special genes that allow them to be able to comprehend and do this, whereas I'm sure actually lots of people could do it. They just happen to be in the position and I think that preservation

12:31 is what it's all about. But I mean, just like you said lots of people have done and there has been kings and queens throughout Europe history that have done this and it always caused problems right? The inbreeding causes all these mutations and weaknesses and illnesses that end up killing a lot of them in the long run. But right, you know so in that way it's a disadvantage so I would say the only advantage they're really getting from is this idea that they're preserving something special to their bloodline which I think they think is their intelligence. Fair enough!

13:07 So obviously the Rothschilds are controlling a lot of countries through the central banking. They got the British Empire, they control the French Empire as well. They control the Austrian Empire all these major areas now we're going to get into some of the details I think probably this is where we're at what happened in parts of Africa and this is like so interesting to me and kind of what spawned us getting together for this but tell us about these aspects Yeah, so I started... A big part of this conspiracy is that some people say the Rothschilds own all of the central banks except Syria, Iran, Cuba and North Korea. There's a lot of theories floating around that they own literally every World Bank except for those ones. So my take on it is if that is true then I should be able to pick any country at random and research it fully and be able to find evidence that the Rothschilds own it.

14:03 So I chose Zimbabwe was the first one. I just kind of put my finger on a map and looked at it Wow, so looking at Zimbabwe I noticed something interesting It's just to the northeast of South Africa shares the border with South Africa which the British also controlled? so In zimbabwe what they wanted to do basically sees all roads and baron nathan ross child work together with the queen who i signed off on this is also being back by this and then ross child sons bank. 1888, Cecil Rhodes and Nathan Rothschild formed De Beers Company. 1889 they formed the British South Africa Company in South Africa and then in 1890 one year later they invade with troops from the British South Africa Company into Zimbabwe

14:56 So they wasted no time between getting the queen's approval to roll crown approval russia approval and then they start marching troops up through south africa, add a t90 to take over zimbabwe and basically what i did is just marched in and. just took over tons of land immediately. They had the Maxim gun, which was a very powerful weapon and some of the first fully automatic machine guns which is big part of the technology that allowed not only England but other countries to conquer Africa, the scramble for Africa. The Maxim gun played a pivotal role in that so by 1890 the British South African troops had

15:38 or police as they called them in the language, they invaded Zimbabwe and started taking over different sections of Zimbabwe. By 1986 six years later there's 4,000 BSAC police in Zimbabwe so the Zimbabwans are starting... The locals are starting to get upset with this course because they're just grabbing territory and they're starting to take over governments So the Zimbabwans revolted They managed to kill 400 BSAC troops, but over 50,000 native Zimbabweans died in this war. It's a 125-to-1 ratio which is almost certainly because of the Maxim gun. The British said at the time whatever happens we have got the Maxim gun and they have not so after killing 50,000 they

16:30 Then ruled Rhodesia, they called it until 1922 which they call the Rhodesia because of Cecil Rhodes. Which is also the Rhodes Scholar Program that Bill Clinton and many other politicians have done but the BSAC had Rhodesia until 1922 and then they turned it over to the British Crown And you know like we talked about The Rothschilds have a lot control over the British Crown and The Rothschild's directly funded the BSAC so its pretty clear to see that there's a handoff of territory The BSAC was shut down because you know very unpopular It was turned over to the crown which is similar to what happened in India if you think about it You know the British East India Company had control of India for a hundred years Before they gave up control and gave it to the crown who then had it for another hundred years. Mm-hmm anyways, Zimbabwe so British ruled Zimbabwe then after 1922 when the BSAC was gone and Zimbabwe started again with another revolution

17:27 1964, which lasted until 1979. And in this one Robert Mugabe is the current president was spearheading the military effort to get rid of the white local minorities within Zimbabwe basically they managed to kill 1300 Rhodesian security forces which are basically you know British or Rothschild troops and Which resulted in the deaths of another 10,000 Zimbabwean guerrilla fighters So, between these two rebellions 60 thousand Zimbabweans died and maybe 1700 total foreign forces died. And this resulted in Zimbabwe getting independence in 1979 which it was the last country in Africa to get independence from the British crown. It came as a surprise move that was announced by the British Crown

18:19 Completely unexpectedly because they weren't losing the war but it became obvious that from a PR perspective It looked really bad to have you know, just this one colony owned by the British Empire right just left on the map So they've granted independence every country which puts us in this era of neo-colonialism where you can't tell You know who's pillaging who? Everybody gets their own name and he can't see what's going on behind the doors. Right So, Zimbabwe when they got into Pence in 1979 there was a big conference in England and this is where they were given control over their own country supposedly. But in reality the debt was maintained. The Zimbabwean government is still indebted to the Zimbabwean Central Bank which is almost certainly set up and owned by the same people who ran the empire which is the Rothschild's

19:14 So, it's pretty clear even to this day that Zimbabwe is controlled by the Rothschilds. But you know it's not a complete and total control but its pretty close and its been loosening as the Zimbabwens fight back in trying to regain control of their country but there are just so many layers and subtlety to the control that they can strip off the obvious layers like the name or who's running the government But at the end of the day, the debt is still controlled by the Rothschilds and money creation ability is still owned by the British Crown. Mm hmm man this isn't super I guess surprising to a person who's looked at conspiracy for a long time but the details are just so interesting and you really can

19:58 take the story from the formation of Rhodesia or Zimbabwe all the way to current day, because like you said it got its independence in 1979-1980 but that was largely kind of just for show and since its independence they've only had one president. So it's very easy to see that this is obviously some type a puppet president and that control is still there Right exactly robber but god is been the only president since nineteen eighty and they've got a guy like in power and so there's not fully democratic elections happening. Yeah it still controlled that they improved the appearance of us are

20:39 Man, it's just the influence of a handful of people on a planet of billions is always staggering to me. You just have the Queen of England write a charter funded by the Rothschilds create a company creatively named British South African Company. Right? Sounds very official right? Right and you just have basically they have a private corporate military and this is... Exactly in the 1800s. And this also isn't the first time, like you mentioned the British East India Trading Company controlled India really in the same way and it's just so weird to think about corporations in this way or to take them back that far and just see the template reapplied so many times

21:20 Yeah, and you know the Dutch East India Company is another example. It's really startling when you kind of step back and look at corporations and governments objectively right next to each other because there are a lot Corporations that are more powerful than countries and we think of countries as being the most powerful entity usually you know Nothing's bigger than a nation right? And so when we think of it from that perspective companies are a subset of nations, but I mean when you really look at it. It It's the other way around nations are a subset of companies and nations existed like companies to. You know their operations more easily in a lot of cases especially in these poor countries that are just conquered by other countries basically

22:06 Well said. And it's so convenient too that, you know they can conquer another country like Zimbabwe and then say oh the British wanted this the crown wanted this they ordered it You know, it's their troops right? So they have this level of distance this plausible deniability that they can throw in there, that gives them this layer of separation. That you know they can wash their hands clean and walk away which is kind of what lets them keep getting away from it because they can just wear all these different masks of oh now I'm the British government or now i'm the French government and then do all these actions that profit them and make the government who did it look bad instead of the Rothschilds so there's always this layer of deflection

22:48 Right not unlike what happens with the private military contractors in Iraq like Blackwater and that kind of stuff Exactly. Oh, we pull out of Iraq and then there's still 70 thousand mercenaries that the US has for hired there But let's say be pulled out You know The u.s Has pulled out of Iraq but that's garbage because We're paying people to fight their still tens of thousands of people right? And it's just so funny because people today are in the conspiracy world are so paranoid about private UN troops, about seeing people with UN logos in Carolinas or whatever. And it's just like yeah I mean obviously that's concerning but they have literally been doing this for centuries and you just...I guess they don't know that part of the history? Or if they think this is some new concept that once they've done this we're really screwed well just look at history! This isn't new

23:42 Exactly, yeah exactly. But... So to move the story along, also we were going to talk about Botswana right next to Zimbabwe just west of it. And this is where you mentioned the De Beers Company has maintained operations for 130 years that Cecil Rhodes and Nathan D Rothschild started De Beers in 1888 just one year before they created that British South African company. What more can be said about de Beers and the Botswana saga? Well, De Beers is a very interesting company because it's Rothschild owned even up to this day. The recent CEOs have been Rothschild I mean just as recent as 10 or 20 years ago but De Beers is also very interesting because they basically created a world monopoly on diamonds A lot of people... This has started to become common knowledge that the De Beers owns like 90% of the world's diamonds You know used to be not commonly known now It's pretty well-known

24:40 It's getting there but with owning 90% of the world's diamonds, which they mine mostly in Botswana. They can then determine the price of the diamond market by determining how many diamonds they let out of supply so that may only sell like 10 percent what they actually mind that you're just to drive the price up artificially high which they've done and continue to do And the use of diamonds and engagement rings is something that didn't exist really as a common meme until the 1940s. That came about through De Beers advertising, through media created by De Beers that created basically a cultural institution that makes people spend tens of thousands of dollars on a rock that's artificially inflated

25:27 By taking over Botswana. Man, don't I know it? So knowing all that it's hard to you know want to buy a diamond ring But looking more at Botswana 62% of Botswana's exports are Diamonds so you can see with 62 percent of their export market being determined completely by one industry That's owned by the Rothschilds they can very easily control the country. So, for instance if the government has a shortage or the economy is doing poorly they can make that swing one way or another depending on how nice the government of Botswana is being towards the Rothschilds

26:11 So that i'm like the zimbabwe one where they just marched in with guns and you know space we took over the government. In botswana did something kind of similar but they took over the economy they built a car to me that basically makes the existing army obsolete in a lot of ways so by being a huge player in Botswana they've given themselves all this power basically and this is done you know in parallel with the zimbabwe stuff so yes like he said 1888 was the beers creation 1889 was the vsac creation. And invasion happened right after that man it's just passing and like you said in one of your pieces we heard of company towns where,

26:54 Everybody in town works at the factory or whatever or the mine and then when those things dry up, the town has really nothing there to support itself. It was so dependent on one particular company and now we're just scaling that out. We're talking about company nations entire countries that are basically in existence to prop up one company and one source of revenue for a very select group of people and it's just super interesting Yeah, that's exactly right. It's kind of mind-boggling to see and just like those company towns they'll give you... When you think about the archetypical example, you have the mining town in America or something like that where everyone is paid in company bucks and then they have to spend the company bucks at a companies store so you can't even break out

27:45 Companies economies the paid in company box spend company bucks at the company store so they completely captured your entire economic behavior. Basically within the companies that like you said scale that up now it's an entire nation set not only are they doing industry that's providing some jobs there for people also almost certainly providing me economy, Where the money is spent to and if they're controlling the money supply in a similar way as they are with many other countries then it's literally the company bucks scenario again, but on a larger scale that the veneer of legitimacy because it's spearheaded by a government set up a company. Yeah man I love it and

28:29 I wanted to also talk about, because we are kind of in that time window of World War II. I wanted to ask you a little bit about what happened to some of these Rothschild branches during that period because a couple of them were seized or at least the Austrian branch was seized and i'm just curious In the conspiracy world, there's a lot of people who are like it's the Jews. It's the Jews. It's the Jews and then there's a lot of people also talk about it being the Germans and honestly when I look at the modern multinational corporations that are the big problem in Big Pharma and in the food industry, a lot of them are German companies. So it's interesting where this line is drawn but there was a little bit of conflict between The Rothschilds and The Nazis And this kind of is a big aspect of why World War II happened or why its framed the way it's framed What can you tell us about this chapter? And kinda untangling this mess

29:28 Yeah, that's it's a very difficult interesting story. To me this is something that's shrouded in misinformation because the people who did bad things don't want to get caught you know the Rothschilds don't want a big trail leading to them so they're always throwing out distractions things that you could blame instead of them So to me their most common scapegoating technique is to blame the Jews because they themselves are Jewish They want to instead of saying you know the rostral said this they want to say that use did this and set up then one family being blamed. There's no millions and millions of people being blamed so the blame is defused in this way and the rest also trying position themselves as

30:13 spearheading Jewish people they created this kind of sub religion within Judaism like another offshoot of Judaism called Rothschild Zionism basically they create their own family religion that's how powerful they are and they pass this down you know from person to person within the family and the way I see it is a set of ideologies that are created to maintain the wealth. It's like a kind of ideological immune system for the Rothschilds So they can use these ideas to kind of bulwark their wealth against the masses who are going to try and take it from them basically. And so they've kind of taken this religion, and they call it Judaism, and then they push it a lot

30:55 and talk about, you know. And it's to the point... The impression I get is that they basically won't do business with anyone who doesn't hold the ideology of Rothschild Zionism to some degree but let's talk about the word Zionism too because a lot of people mix Zionism and Judaism as if they were the same thing or even worse they'll see Zionism like some kind of racist dog whistle term for Jews which it's not although some people use it that way which goes back to mudding in the waters again But anyways, Zionism to me is basically stripped down. It's the desire to own Mount Zion which is what it's named after. Of course! So Mount Zion is the mountain in the middle of Jerusalem and Israel so The way it is right now if you look at a map Israel has half of Jerusalem split in half like at the Wailing Wall which is at the top

31:50 of Mount Zion. And basically the Jewish people had control of Mount Zion where they had the Temple of Solomon and then it got destroyed, I think it was 1500 years ago and then it got replaced by the Dome on the Rock which is built by Muslims and the Palestinians basically so The Israelites basically want control of Mount Zion, which means they want control of Jerusalem and which means they want the Palestinians out. So This is what modern Zionism means. Historically, Zionism was more like the Jews need a place to stay that they can call their own sure but now we've gotten to a point where there's two states and the borders have been drawn but there's still kind of an encroaching going on Israel is building all these settlements in the West Bank just kind of eroding the Palestinian hold

32:45 It's very clear that the ultimate desire is to retake Jerusalem for Israel, right? Yeah, it is a tangled web. But it does seem like obviously on this show we've talked about groups hiding within larger groups that they get is a tactic that's used all the time and obviously this is the template for that and I guess Is the theory that Hitler was actually? helping the Rothschilds by Perpetuating that idea that it's all Jews that are the problem were they in allegiance to some degree You know, I honestly haven't studied this particular thing enough to really be able to say one way or the other but i would not be surprised if there was funding that was backing this situation. But the thing is they don't want it... If the Rothschild's own a country they don't want to destabilize that country It's only when they lose control that they wanna destabilize so they can regain control right? Right

33:42 And then a good way to control any revolution is to spearhead the opposition. So it seems likely, to me that they were spearheading the opposition and then maybe it got out of control or went away They didn't expect or something like that but from what I understand they got run out of Germany basically and had to go to Austria and None of them were you know prosecuted for what they did. Right? It's you know, they just basically got away and then they just blame the Jews that are going to focused on the Jews and then that became this story Yeah it seems like a situation based so I got out of control for them They might have been pushing things one way or the other trying to spearhead the opposition but i do think it seems like they went too far They lost control of the situation because they did get pretty much kicked out for awhile in the situation obviously got pretty out of control

34:37 Fair enough. And then there are maybe some critics to this narrative that say, well the Rothschild interests basically were dismantled during that World War II period but like you noted earlier the head of the British branch is still a Rothschild we still see their name around a lot And does the paper trail suggest that they did reclaim some of their banking power once World War II was over? Did the Allies give them back a lot of their assets? Yeah, well it's clear Germany lost and then the West won basically. And so knowing that the UK branch was basically unbroken up to modern day the amount of power that the UK had post-World War II over Germany shows that you know the Rothschilds basically retook control of Germany after the war It seems pretty clear from my perspective Right on

35:36 Cool, man. So that is a lot of great information and now we wanted to talk about kind of the corporateocracy or how things have maybe flexed a little bit or evolved in modern times and we see a lot of the same templates but yet they're applied in a slightly different way Is that what how you might describe it? Yeah That's very good way of putting it You know this whole template of central banking came about you know you know, in the early 1800s basically. So it's been around for 200 years so there has been a lot of people have observed what the Rothschilds have been doing and people with a lot of power money have started to play this game too. It is not as though the Rothschilds have a complete monopoly over everything they just have 150 year head start basically but yeah looking at more corporate talkacies another country that is very interesting is the country Chad

36:28 It's just to the west of sudan most people know chad is just a lot of military action there a lot of fighting and it's not very nice country that's maybe all people now. However, there is a very interesting story with chad in regards their exports 96% of chad's exports are crude petroleum so this comes from oil extraction infrastructure in chad that's owned 75%. I. Exxon and 25% by chevron which actually just sold their 25% stake to the chatting government 2014 for $1.3 billion

37:10 This loan was funded by another company, Glencore who is the 14th largest company in the world who funded Chad to buy Chevron's piece basically. So however Exxon still owns 75% of the infrastructure. Right so basically two corporations fighting over the carcass that is the country of Chad? Basically and then when Chevron sold their 25%, You know to give independence to chat to give control that twenty five percent of the chatting government cost one point three billion dollars they don't have that money so i had a borrow it. From glenn core which then immediately put some into debt so there again in heavy debt to accompany you know so they're not anymore independent than they were previously right and especially looking at the terms of this loan their splits are repayable one point three billion dollars and four years,

38:04 So, it just doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. And then when they aren't able to do that then Glencore can basically come along and start negotiating terms about this money they can't pay back which effectively gives them partial control over the government so they could say oh what if we could drill in this national park or something like that? It's like well you have to say yes because you owe us 1.3 billion dollars and its due So that's coming up so that's due in twenty eighteen for chad. So they're scrambling right now so actually chad just filed the largest lawsuit in world history, so chad is right now suing exxon for seventy four billion dollars which is five times the gdp of the entire country so they're trying to reclaim all this money that they think exxon stole from them and

38:56 Basically in order to get money to pay off the glencore bill so they can own their twenty five percent right this is all like been unfolding november twenty sixteen was when this lawsuit was announced and there still working on terms exxon saying you're not going to pay because exxons profits are. Their profits are $16 billion a year. So if they were to pay the full 74 billion, it would eat up all their profits for five years or something like that so they don't want to do that. They would rather cease operations in Chad but I don't think they're gonna cease operations. They've worked out some sort of settlement with Chad to kind of kick the can down the road for little more but I think they're gonna try and settle for lower than 74 billion but I'm curious to see how flexible the Chad government is, the Chadian government

39:45 they don't flex at all and just say 74 billion or get out of here then Exxon might either be forced to turn over all their equipment through the chatting government or more likely they would bring in troops to defend Exxons interests and would basically put that chatting government back into the box if they want them to be in. Absolutely, That book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman is all about is being a part of the team that goes around and does that kind of stuff when these countries try to act like they have some kind of autonomy or something. Exactly exactly it's just fascinating this particular tug-of-war

40:28 because you have the government of Chad buying that 25% that wasn't owned by Exxon, and they're taking that loan from Glencore. And because they're taking that huge loan now they're clearly on the puppet strings of Glencore and then what do they do? They file this ridiculously large lawsuit against Exxon Mobil. Well no shit! Because this is probably with a gun to their head through Glencore because Glencore is trying to, they're basically fighting a tug of war with another multinational corporation. And they're just using Chad as a middleman and it's just so interesting to see that unfold. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's just company versus company with these governmental facades in a lot of cases I love it man

41:19 You know as we maybe talk about this umbrella of company nations is interesting as it is, Have you seen any other examples of this besides Chad, Zimbabwe and Botswana? Obviously there's speculation. I mean pretty well established speculation that even the United States of America in these major countries are at the behest of these same private bankers but have you seen other parallel examples to maybe smaller nations in the same way you've seen these three Another example would be like Iraq. When we invaded Iraq, you know we destroyed the country basically and then after it was destroyed it needed to be rebuilt so there's all these building contractors that got very lucrative jobs in Iraq So that was like the major industry in Iraq for many years And in fact the largest US...the largest embassy in the world is a U.S. Embassy in Iraq

42:11 It's over a million square feet. And they paid some outrageous sum for this building, and it's pseudo money laundering basically. They destroy the military industrial complex comes in and destroys the building and then the contractors come in and rebuild the building so both people are making money and then they can continue this cycle over and over again. And it's very profitable. So it's not only is it like Chad we're talking about There's one company. It's like Exxon owns everything you know they have 96% of that except 75 percent of the 96 percent of the export market which is a third of the entire economy of Chad So that that's a lot of control for one company, but however other countries are

42:57 There's a more diversified form of control so there might be like ten companies like mcdonalds walmart housing contractor whatever you got each industry might have its own monopoly and then once you set the stage for those to come in all those monopolies can come and take over their respective industries. So the media company is coming instead of zimbabwean media or chaddy and media or whatever i'm not gonna set up mcdonalds there and chat They can set up car dealerships, they can sell housing. They can start giving loans you know there's all this stuff that can start to take place once they've got their foot in the door

43:34 Yeah, man. I mean you're laying it out very clearly and I don't know how someone could argue with it and sticking with the corporate takeover theme we also wanted to talk about regulatory capture which is something that I think we talk about often on this show but the term is fairly new to me detail this for us and some proper examples if you could yeah sure regulatory capture is basically when the companies take over the regulation that is supposed to be watching them. It's a very advanced form of corporate takeover, so instead of the corporation just flat out running the government they will instead take over the lobbying agencies So if you're Monsanto for example You can take over the USDA or the FDA and then if you have some questionable pesticides that are using

44:29 Then that might not be approval otherwise if you're in control of the regulatory agency not only can you approve your chemical but you can write laws that make it so your chemicals the only legal chemical and no one else can use any chemicals so you given yourself a legal monopoly by taking over at the mechanism that is supposed to limit you from doing that. So by concentrating all this power in these regulatory agencies, they've just opened the door for these companies to kind of step in and regulate themselves. But with the pretense of the government's doing it and someone is watching and so on and so forth. The amount of regulatory capture that has happened is pretty outlandish when you really look at it

45:15 For example, the VP of Pfizer was on the National Security Council. The corporate council lobbyists for Pfizer became legislative assistants to representatives. The VP of global public policy for Merck was a US trade representative under Clinton. The senior VP of public policy for Pharmacia was a commissioner for the FDA The CEO of PHRMA was the US Treasury Department under Bush. The CEO of Pfizer was the New York Federal Reserve Bank under Obama. I mean, these people are getting very high-level positions and

45:56 And they call this the revolving door between regulation and industry. It's very lucrative if you're in industry to go into regulation or vice versa, most developed countries make this illegal but you can't transition from one to the other between industry and regulation sometimes not at all and sometimes with a delay of like five years but in the US it's just immediate I mean its like the second your done Being a senator or congressman in the US you become a lobbyist i mean it's like they have jobs waiting for you and that's part of the offer you know the by steak dinners about that can't just give me money so instead they offer you this lobbying job is extremely lucrative lobbying job. And this continues this revolving door of regulatory capture basically,

46:44 these seven Venn diagrams you have on the subreddit. I'm not sure if you made them yourself or just shared them, but these seven Venn diagrams are very damning to anyone who would want to try to laugh about the conspiratorial perspective because you got Big Oil, Comcast, GE, Goldman Sachs, Media, Monsanto and big pharma And each one has a dozen cases of the revolving door and it's just so well laid out. I'd recommend anybody take a look at it if you really want to get the details of that for your own personal arguments with people who just think this is craziness, It's just really surprising to me how blatant it is man. Yeah Also how ironclad and absolute it is there is really no industry You can look at and say well they've yet to get that one

47:35 Right? Yeah, exactly. It's this has become like a model of operation that's just been copied from industry to industry over the last 150 years so I mean we've gotten ourselves to point now where it's pretty like there's not much wiggle room left for really in a corporate talk or see right now with the corporations are running not only the regulatory agencies but a lot of the lobbying efforts and you know it's it's like the banking especially looking at Goldman Sachs like the CEO of goldman sachs is john core sign us senator just got the ceo being a senator you know and that different CEO in repulsion was the treasury secretary under bush. And you know trump just nominated i think three or four different golden sacks members to his cabinet i mean these people are in,

48:23 They're in there i mean they got their and like that they are at the highest levels doing advising during the. No bill proposing doing i mean they are the senators they are the lobbyists i mean, it's extremely widespread and its right in our faces you see again and again with the policy that comes out of three pro corporate policy very anti human i mean to really boil it down yeah And the military industrial complex is another part that needs to be spoken of specifically. Sure because you know eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex and his departing speech, JFK warned about these secret societies months before he was assassinated

49:09 These entities need profit. If you own a company that makes tanks or guns or bombs You need to sell those right and you see me have a market yeah in order to have a market. You have to have a war right if there's no war nobody is buying guns really so you've got two trade awards like you got like the Iraq War for example then you can sell all these tomahawk missiles that you know 16 million a pop or whatever it's all these jets you can sell all this stuff and if

49:43 If there wasn't a war, that stuff wouldn't be needed. So your industry wouldn't be as valuable. There's a strong incentive by the military industrial complex to create wars that are publicly supported because that's how they can get the most income. Well said man! What's also very interesting is that they'll play both sides of this so they'll get two sides to fight each other and then sell weapons on both sides So right now the two largest arms exporters in the world are the United States and Russia. They're number one and two far away, so a lot of modern wars now we see that our proxy wars are essentially the Russian military industrial complex arming one side and then the US military industrial complex arming the other side and then those two sides fight And things get destroyed in the process and having to make those things again is profitable be it houses or bullets Right Or airplanes

50:42 And both nations profit greatly without really suffering any losses because those have been outsourced. Right, exactly yeah Oh man. You can have the work done for dirt cheap and then... I mean it's a pretty good business model when your product literally explodes and then you have to build a new one from scratch like that, let's be honest that's a pretty good business model Right right It's the only way to do it really And so we also wanted to kind of round out the first hour here with kind of little bit about solutions And then, of course in the second hour we can go back through and get into deeper detail about some of these things. But to talk about solutions basically we were going to talk about social control mechanisms that kind of keep the status quo in place and then what we could do to overcome those I mean what are the biggest thorns on our side that you think would fall under this umbrella?

51:38 Well, public education for one. It's said that the victors write the history books and so you know US history books have no mention of Rothschild for example despite the fact that they're so key to a lot of this right? So they kind of paint themselves out of the picture and then the media is doing the same thing You know there's five or six corporations that own 95% of U.S Media And so that's five or six CEOs and boards that essentially control the messaging for 95% of media. So if they don't like a show, they can cancel it. If they want a different type of show they can add it you know this is the media environment we have its movies, its print media, its everything so they control that messaging system and like Common Core for example the US education system seems much more about rote memorization than creative learning or actual thinking skills

52:34 But with those two, and then on top of it there's all these other factors like debt slavery for example is probably the largest problem. Debt slavery being when you have to go to work because you have bills that are coming due. That's being trapped in debt slavery because you can't stop working, you can't stop paying the debt so your basically obligated to contribute to the economic machine they own and create value for them while making some paltry sum for yourself, that then you're forced to pay into debt that is accruing interest all the time. That's very difficult to pay off. And especially with the student loan situation now they've created illusion that college is an absolute necessity for every single person. So people will take out 50, 60 hundred thousand dollars of loans to pay this college. Then they basically got the size of a mortgage

53:27 before they even own a house. And so, you know it's no wonder we have all these people living at home now who can't pay their bills and stuff because they're already paying a mortgage and there's no jobs. A lot of people didn't get rewarded in the way they thought they would for going to college. So they've been trapped in these bad jobs that are worse than they expected earning less than they expected to pay off this humongous sum that they just having a lot of trouble actually Reduce saying so that's kind of being trapped in a way and that's the kind of it's kinda slavery really in a way. The old models is slavery actually an eighteen sixties when the civil war was five flavors actually going out of style,

54:09 not just for moral reasons, but for economic reasons. It actually become so expensive to own a slave that it was actually cheaper to hire someone to work for you because when you hire someone, you don't have to pay for their housing, you don't have to pay for their food, you just give them money and they go home to their own place at the end of the day. So you don't have support all these things. It's actually cheaper to have workers. Our economy transitioned from slavery system to a worker-based system because it was cheaper Absolutely, so taking a step back and looking at all the different ways that There's all these different types of control and all these different narratives And cultural norms and things that are trying to get past That cause us to react certain ways when certain events happen So if for example 9-11 led to the Iraq war Basically but if people had been a little more observant

55:04 About the context of it then maybe people have not been so gung-ho about invading iraq and maybe that were would not have happened in the million iraqi's that died as a consequence of our invasion over the next ten years. Would not have died But so a lot of it is I think people need to be able to think for themselves Which they've basically been told their whole lives not to do then punished for thinking for themselves in school A lot of times and you know by having opinions that run counter to the media and things like this So I think it's very important to reclaim your own mind and reclaim your own thoughts And did not be afraid of trying to fit into cultural norms that are often Created top-down anyways, they're not natural

55:49 They don't come from the culture itself as it appears. So other than the mindset, there's other things we could do on a more substantial level like financially ideally we could get away from the private central banking system and return that money creation abilities to the government so the government is not in debt all of time because if the government creates its own money then it can't be in debt to itself, it wouldn't be a debt-based monetary system. If we could fix that, that would change things because that's a very top level change. Right? That's the tall order! So more graspable change would be I think owning the means of production is very important. Owning money creation ability is like owning means of production of the most valuable commodity

56:40 If you own any types of means of production, like any machine that can produce things creates value for you. I think if people start owning these types of machines and bringing businesses back to the level where they control it rather than it being this kind of hierarchical monarchy basically where the CEO owns everything and is God... If we transition away from this type of business system I just find it funny that we've outlawed monarchy in our governments for you know several hundred years now But it's still the de facto standard and all corporations. I just, I find that hilarious And I think we need to definitely move into more democratically owned workplaces where you know

57:23 The shares of the company stock are owned by the workers, the machinery and equipment are owned by the workers and the profits are distributed amongst everyone who works in the company rather than just being collectivized all at the top. So I think if we focus on regaining tools that make us money, the means of production, and then focus on a long-term goal of getting rid of this private central bank that loans add interest to our government And then we take the attack of thinking about the world from a clear perspective instead of trying to fit into top-down cultural norms. I think if those three things are taken very seriously by enough people, then change would come. Man! Well said and i think that is

58:11 a pretty good capstone on the first hour here. I did want to throw this out as well, to quote your piece booping the zeitgeist which i love uh great term and great title thank you one of my favorite scenes from super bad of course is the infamous boop but you say...I think much of the divisiveness and polarization we've seen come about in American society this last decade is due to this cultural ego crisis brought on by a failing economy. Ultimately, it's hard to lie yourself about the superiority of your culture when you're in destitution so a lot of people are coming sober realizations about how screwed we are

58:52 which creates an anger that the media skillfully redirects onto scapegoats so the truly powerful aren't even talked about. This is how I'm afraid it'll go down, but the silver lining is the more people that are aware of this possibility, the less likely it becomes and I do think that is a great breakdown of where a lot of people's mental space is right now, because when you're propagandized so heavily especially here that you're the best nation on earth and then you're confronted with this economy that is maybe on its last legs. It is tough. I mean, it definitely causes some turmoil in the minds of people and we have all this outrage and you're right it's misdirected its blacks versus whites its men versus women

59:41 alt-right versus postmodernist liberals. And really, we should focus on exactly what our problems are and how to have a better life for all of us which really has nothing to do with the legislation of these other groups or putting them down or whatever. We could find common things that we all need which is to be debt free, to have a better education system just to have a better structure for everyone if we could just focus you know? If we can avoid these pitfalls and focus Right. Yeah, that's exactly true right on so you have just written about so many awesome things man and this really has been a blast it really was this Rothschild owns in Bob way and Botswana post that impressed me most of course the Exxon Mobil owning Chad saga I don't think it surprises lot of people in the audience but I think

1:00:31 They are interesting chapters to the story that have really yet to be laid out. So big thanks for that, and I am curious if you plan to do anything in this field beyond your Reddit post? Do you plan to write a book or somehow take your work in this area up a notch or two?" I'm probably going to be starting a blog soon to get things off of Reddit and then I'll probably be starting at Patreon or something along those lines in the near future. So, looking to expand my writing more perhaps as kind of freelancing thing if i can get enough funding I could do it as a full-time job. I would love to do that but yeah hopefully i'm contributing more time writing to it, more articles and uh... able to make about one or two week right now and you know I'd love to do an article on like every country and explain who owns it and then put all those together and have kind of narrative of how the world works. I think that would be amazing

1:01:22 Oh, hell yeah man. That book does not exist yet you could definitely put it in a one big tome about basically the encyclopedia of countries and their ownership that would be ambitious but it'd be pretty damn awesome man and you really are on that track already so I would just say you have a gift! And I'm actually really psyched to be able to direct the audience to your subreddit because they're gonna learn some stuff Guess that's it. I like your style man, I like your moves remind the people where they can read that stuff if they do want to dig deeper after this conversation Well if you want to look at more writings You can go to the Magnora 7 subreddit which is you can just google magnora7 or even got a reddit.com Slash R slash magnora7 boom awesome man well Thanks again keep doing what you do and best of luck out there Thank You Greg really enjoyed the interview you got it

1:02:18 Wow, Magnora 7. I'm happy! I love this one We got a little back to basics but with a twist. I was actually going to put something about African ownership in the title because that's the most unique thing about this one But it's not just Africa It's like fucking everything and Magnora 7 has a real unique research path I hope he does make The Global Encyclopedia of Ownership I would love to see that book And nobody take his idea. Of course, I don't really know his real name so wouldn't be able to call you out on it anyway but that would not be cool Still i mean its just so interesting also funny that in a synchronistic fashion wedding and engagement type of things keep popping up in the shows lately

1:03:03 Definitely with Connor Habib and I also feel like something was said with Matt Landman but i can't really remember what it was. Stephen Strong mentioned marriage and not talking to your mother-in-law in the Australian Originals culture, and today we talked about the De Beers engagement ring tradition scam but it's all good fun I'm really happy to be getting married and that's really why i gotta get out of here. I got friends showing up in less than 10 hours at this point, half the state of Missouri coming out to celebrate but I am glad we got three shows out so early this month boom! And I do like all of them

1:03:43 And so there will be two more episodes coming out the last week of the month when my special lady and I get back from Tulum, Mexico where we are going to swim with dolphins people. I've been wanting to do that for a long long time and she wanted to take a honeymoon and i thought this was a good compromise between not going very far and knocking a major thing off my freaking bucket list maybe they'll help me catch some fish like they do in Australia right? But back to business, of course there's a plus show today. What did I talk to Magnora7 about in the extended show? Well we got into the Rothschilds' investments and level of control in Russia and China, The banking puppet masters in the Trump administration, The pitfalls of identity politics, Kabuki theater, the Vatican's role in their loans from the Rothschilds

1:04:31 JP Morgan and his role in the big conspiracy, the American police brutality problem. The viral Dutch banker whistleblower interview of Ronald Bernard Dominance hierarchies and Jordan Peterson And of course most importantly why the fat tire brewing company is so awesome So guys I know you like this show, you've been listening for a while please consider joining up for PLUS. I've got all the server issues finally worked out it was an expensive mess but we're good to go and your gonna have two week gap coming up so why not go back in listen to the second hour of some your favorites from the archives there's great ones in there Gordon White Chris Knowles Peter LaVenda Nick Redfern Laird Scranton Donald Marshall I mean what do you want? What do you need

1:05:21 You can also get into some of the extra stuff, download the THC music. Hear my Science Of Consciousness conference breakdown? Watch a little of me and Graham Hancock in Armenia? I'm trying here! Throw a guy a bone or five but either way i'm out of commission for the next two weeks. I love you guys thanks for all the support and for listening and i'm going to catch on the flip side again thanks to Magnora7 today. I think he did a great job I've done what i can. Your move Rothschild Wreckers of Everything Right, Debt Barons of the Capstone and Corporatocracy Cohorts... your fucking move Have a drink and a smoke Listen to the cast We shine a shiny spotlight Put criminals on blast The pinstripe men of mourning And families of finance

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