Jordan Crowder | Ritual Events, Probability Engineering, & The Simulator

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00:50 Oh, oh it's magic people from the Sunshine State I'm Greg Carlin and despite a legacy of skilled educators detailed protocols and serious experiments that teach everything from remote viewing lucid dreaming and astral travel to manifesting will increasing probability and rewiring one's own life on a subconscious level It's bizarre how few people truly engage with the available material. It seems our perception has been properly managed to fill us with doubt before we've even tried. We might watch a YouTube video here or there, flip through a book or two, or maybe even hear it on our preferred podcast of choice... but for some reason we usually fall right back into the same old patterns, indulgences, obligations and distractions

01:30 Some of us are held back by doubt or fear, or even just laziness. But when we really think about it pushing on the perceived boundaries of our assumed physical reality with the magical toolbox and techniques available to us could easily be argued to be the most important thing we could do with our time here... Or at least the most rewarding! So today were talking with Jordan Crowder a consciousness researcher speaker course teacher and host of The Conscious Observers Podcast Following a transformative near-death experience in 2019, he decided to dedicate his life to understanding consciousness and exploring humanity's role in shaping reality. Trained at the legendary Monroe Institute, Crowder combines insights from neuroscience, philosophy, emerging technology and metaphysical traditions to challenge conventional assumptions about the mind identity and human potential

02:21 Looking at the state of things to come, I'd say we could use all the tools we can get. So let's get into it! The probability engineering educator professor of subconscious reprogramming and the conscious observer himself Jordan welcome to The Higher Side Hey Greg, that's easily the best introduction I've ever had. So I appreciate you. I'm gonna make that my voicemail now when you call me. I love that, people will be tempted to not leave messages and fill up your inbox because it is so long as a voicemail but I've been getting into your work a lot and I do find it really motivating. So much of this stuff in this realm of astral travel remote viewing and all the rest of

03:01 is removing doubt and the power of belief. And I think you do that really well, and I usually like to start with how a show came to be, how I got connected as someone...and that was really something different but it was this post you made about the FIFA World Cup finale which is a little old hat at this point but I just always love these examples of ritual theater or whatever it is we're looking at so this is a good one! To read from that post you write In 2007, a 20-year old Lionel Messi held a baby during a UNICEF charity photo shoot at Camp Nou. That baby was Lamane Yamal 19 years later July 19th, 2026 they meet as superstar opponents in the FIFA World Cup finale in New York

03:48 The veteran's son facing the emergent sun. The numbers don't lie, a 19 year arc Yamal turns 19 this week showdown on the 19th and Tarot's 19th major Arcana is the radiant sun 1 plus 9 equals 10 reduces down to one completion collapsing into new beginning karmic cycle resolved Messi carries Argentina's radiant Sun on his back Yamal, the innocent son from the 2007 photo now rides the white horse of destiny. New York, the crossroads of the new world hosts this solar ritual as the planet watches a neutral arena where old light confronts the next dawn

04:29 These stacked 19s and sun-sun mirrors and full circle LaMacia threads are code markers signaling a reset point. To me this signals it's a big day for the simulator, and then there is a follow up post where it continues on with the 19 Argentina scored 19 goals in the World Cup and they gave up 7 and the final game was on 719 And of course the emergent son, Yamal won that day. Which to me does make the most sense it's not really a reset if Messi wins he has been a legend in soccer forever but stacking these weird sinks is one my favorite things to go over It's so wild that he held this baby and then 19 years later is competing against him in the finale of the World Cup

05:18 Obviously there's some planning going on here but what is this story an example of visit ritual i call it ritual theater they say synchro mysticism what do you think it isn't example up. You know i mean, I love the stories because you know what to get a certain threshold of coincidences you can just write it off anymore is so easy to say ok couple those things i have stuff happens in other worlds weird. There's a laundry list of things that goes way beyond everything and that like it just keeps going and going and going all the light we're synchronicities at tie those two together, I even got a book out back here at children's book that i bought because it was a book that predicted the outcome and they predicted correctly minus one number on each score. I know about that the score is wrong but the number of the jersey of the guy who scores the winning shot that is accurate from what i've seen online there's a lot of accuracies and i mean they still predict to the correct winner

06:15 And the score i believe they said it was gonna be two to one and that was one zero or something like that is off by one there's so much goes into this is so ten your question like what is going on here. You know i toggle back and forth between this whole idea of like okay there is the sort of mastermind shadowy elite group, does these ritualistic type of things for no initiation type purposes which this fits basically all that criteria for sure And then also just that we live in an informational cosmos and that there's all sorts of these like glitch in the matrix type things if you look hard enough like a few if you really really look into any sort of. Information system your gonna see no redundancy of numbers and patterns and that kind of stuff

07:05 So is it that these guys are just amplified because they're on this gigantic stage and this kind of weird shit happens all the time we don't normally pay attention to it. Or is there something deeper going on or is a little bit of accommodation about me and we know that the guy's above like to use these big stages for their rituals initiation practices, We know that i mean it's pretty obvious like all the pageantry and everything that they do but. I don't know when it comes to the numbers man i mean really just confirm that we live in a computational type of reality and that so much of everything breaks down two mathematics now is there random mathematics or is being manipulated news by people understand, be behind-the-scenes workings of this i think its probably the latter what i like that you folded then the

07:53 Sun symbolism as well and the tarot I mean it's a lot deeper there is multiple layers. The weirdest part is just like, the numbers alone how many people even compete in the world cup final game? Like 40? And then it's like you held this kid is a baby i mean and there's the name sink out there up on the screen it's a little complicated but when you see it. Wait out its really interesting that your malls name or his last name, the first two letters are in miles middle name and messy like the name matches it's like anything real. Yeah the terror sun no messes country flag has a son right

08:36 And it's almost the same like sun if you look at the tarot card, the sun is almost match perfectly its there so many things like that but he put all together and your life what's happening here. Yeah you can fold in the illuminati car game it's just like a van after event v harvest festival one is so weird cuz jason aldean had the two cards tattooed on his body that are also in the illuminati card game and he's on stage during this event Then there's the enough is enough that one's popular yes the face looks just like trump but that's not it's not just a similar look he said enough is enough you know they use the term that on the card. It's like their son talismans in our reality that have energetic potency and i don't know how much is conscious unconscious but reality shapes itself around some of these things the other one is fairly recent does the charlie kirk

09:31 shooting matching the snake eyes movie. I mean that one is so layered, The Date Tyler in the ring having a distraction of public shooting in the neck Charles Kirkland like what? Is going on sometimes I'm like are these things made and ritual fashion like was that script written on the summer solstice some particular year in some bizarre ritual way that caused it to come together years later Or is it like there's a certain events that are supposed to happen and need to happen. And it's almost like the information is picked up in manifested different ways like you know we got thing people make movies a lot of times you ask me no where did you get the inspiration to make this movie and those i don't really know or came in a dreamer one day just hit me, and it's like okay worded that

10:18 Initial thought what's the genesis of that initial start where did i come from and it's almost like there are being sprinkled is like these seeds been sprinkled reality in their picked up a different ways. Sometimes they're physically manifested and my actual event sometimes put a book or song or movie or guy gets a tattoo whatever and then whenever they come together you like, that matches this message is maybe just that information was put into our system and just picked up and expressed in different ways and when u like acknowledge it and see it then you see it manifested in these different mediums but its still the genesis of that information came from the same place. It's just we take it as humans and run with it different ways

10:59 Yeah yeah there's probably something about our experiencing the reality linearly. As opposed to how information just comes into the system or yet the inspiration of the muse but it's always conspiratorial events which is interesting to me you can go to nine eleven you can go to the titanic, no the harvest festival The sandy hook thing that happens in the dark night which the dark knight had this joker shooting and the premier of it and then olympics that year they had these acrobats with. suits on and orange hair just like the kid who was the shooter. You got the Goddard tunnel ritual, it's almost always like things related to conspiratorial tropes which is so weird to me you know it's not like the Minions movie has gotten a lot of conscious attention in Manifested Minions although that is a weird one because they say they're wearing the Masonic apron and they all do have one eye So maybe there's something going on there but you had said to me

11:58 I love the quote synchronicity is the universe's way of staying anonymous and that you created a framework of reality called simulator theory which, no we know about the idea of the simulation and the matrix in this but you say it's a little bit different does explore these things in depth and make sense of them all will tell us a little bit more about the simulator theory as you formulated. You know yeah it's it all started with me when I had my near death experience and i had my first. Spontaneous out of body experience and i have to put the pieces together afterwards figure out like what the fuck was that like what happened how do i remove my consciousness from a body but maintain my, awareness identity you know my memories everything so realize that point that you're not like robert munro says we are more than our physical body that i was two things there i was this higher self in this human self

12:48 And so that sent me on this discovery mission and then I had this bathroom incident, which that's probably a weird way to begin that. But one day after my...I went through a dark night of the soul afterwards and I was trying to figure out what when you face your mortality and all those kind stuff, you try to figure out what's going on and it makes you think. And I was in the bathroom one day and I was looking at my eye totally sober and I've never done this before and just got sucked into this portal And i was given these three questions and the three questions is the first time ever had that voice you know people talk about this boy sets not your inner dialogue like i know my inner dialogue friends with it's fucking hilarious it's like my best friend, it's like it's very familiar to me in this voice was not that it was a only time of life at that point as a first time has happened since. That i had this voice don't know where came from any game of these three question

13:42 And the cool thing was i knew it had the intelligence answer the questions but it was more. The answers were important is a question and send me on this journey in the questions where who are we where are we and why are we and i was like, The way hit me was just different and i immediately stopped everything else doing investigate these questions like who are we okay well you know where were humans like where we were on earth. Why are we here in our family make money pay taxes, and i was like but i just knew that there is something deeper than that so send me just searching for answers that led me to the neurons to train their let me do tom campbell with his my big toe kind of simulation theory of everything

14:19 And then i went to narcissism i want to all the ancient soteric text i went into all the religions and i just, i went and i explored everything trying to figure out what this place is like an answer these three questions. Through all that i synthesize it and i found. That there's tremendous overlap in everything like weather talking to a mystic or neuroscientist is overlapped which is everyone subscribing reality on their own very narrow way, what did you take all the overlap and all these different perspectives and i created when i call simulator theory. Which is similar simulation theory but its different in the sense that you know here's a metaphor can use pilot uses of flight simulator to become a better pilot

15:01 That pilot a human pilot is in what you would call base level reality but he enters into a simulation simulator to have these experiences that he can't or shouldn't have on the other side for learning purposes it's all for training and. He goes into the simulator it's virtual environment he knows this but a certain point you forget is a virtual environment because your locked in. And the learning is real the growth and evolution as real from that experience even though at some point is gonna step out of the simulator go back to his face level reality life, is gonna come back to an upgraded version of himself because he learned and grew inside the simulator that simulators are virtual environment i think that very similar too

15:44 What reality is that our soul or consciousness is non physical exist in the non physical realm but it comes into this physical simulator which is earth and needs a physical avatar which is our human body to do this in the consciousness. Streams for lack of better words at phase locks into our vessel has his physical experience got like renting a car and going for joyride right, what its fully immersive and you know we're here for training type purposes now That's how i believe everything started that was the intention and the design of the system. Now could have been hijacked along the way could we get stuck in here like van wilder you know go to school and use day for twenty years, are there any other guys i think that thats probably what's happening too most of us is that we get sort of addicted to the human earth life experience and we don't wanna leave

16:35 Or we get just i call spiritual gravity we get tied down to the densities of this world and we actually. Forget that there is something else out there and that we came from somewhere else in week and you know, probably for like what's supposed to be like a temporary sojourn and we've been here for hundred lifetimes You know i think that my simulator theory what i do is a tie in all the different perspectives of reality but i don't reach what i do like a gigantic diagram and find the overlap every single one of them. And there is tremendous overlap between all women when you do that will you come out with essentially what i just described and not show

17:15 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think that's great and it's funny when i look at a lot of your videos and you're talking about different aspects of this And then I go to the comments and You'll see people on all parts of the spectrum being like yes This is a beautiful garden of human experience and flourishing two people being like this is a prison planet Everything's based on consumption. You must take and kill and destroy To survive Everyone comes in hungry, so you are forced to engage in this carnal destruction. And this is a system of consumption or a Boris destroying itself. It's like whoa dude but then it's like this guy who saying that you're sitting at a computer probably an air conditioning like

18:02 I know is your life that bad i mean i can't judge anybody's in particular life but forty years and i've had a great time here, i don't necessarily wanna be doing it over and over again but. It's just crazy that the system is designed in a way in which you can really hold any perspective And there is a lot of suffering, no doubt. It's all somewhat abstract I mean amongst me and my inner circle of people i have known we've all been very lucky and dodged a lot of bullets and yes there's war and famine and this in that but it is kinda out there and i guess thats just the blessing of being put down where i was put down but i think everyone listening for the most part is also in one of these kind of areas and would have to kinda admit Is it really that bad?

18:47 But, you know you can make those arguments about the other side of it and it is just like how you look at it. I just think you know i've talked about this in the sense of like will people be like why do they wipe our memories that's so awful and like that's the clue that we're being deceived and then it's a trap and then its evil. And, You would say no not really because when you come in if you had your previous life's memories you wouldn't be able to let go of it You wouldn't live a fresh experience, you'd go seeking out your widow in India or whatever and you have all this cultural baggage from different areas of the planet where it's like... You don't need the context of what Russian society or language is like if you're now plopped down in New Guinea.

19:38 It has to be a fresh experience, but the learning as you say is contained. You know you do hold on to some of the essence of what you might have learned from your previous go in the simulator. You just don't need the details of The Last Life because it would disrupt your next cycle I think that makes total sense Absolutely, and here's what I do. So it's really hard to kind of zoom out and look at human consciousness in the human experience because we're in it right? But what you can do is use something else as a reference point so what I'll do sometimes is use AI and robotics because I'm a bit of a futurist and always looking forward. Imagine that you get a robot Tesla comes out with Optimus they give you a robot his name is Bob and then like alright Greg here's Bob your household robot he helps you do all your shit and you love Bob And then five years down the road

20:26 Is there a new version of bob we're gonna take and decommission that old one give you the new one but bob had five years experience right now he met other robots people. make your dog get all sorts of stuff you know he learned a ton in that five years. So they bring in bob 2.0 but they don't want to start from scratch cuz this is an evolutionary thing, they also need every single event and all the data information no just put into him because when you get a new phone and you immediately put your old shit new phone and then new phones like lagging your life. You want the new robot to be like clean slate and everything but you wanted to have the wisdom so they would create an algorithm that takes all of that information from five years. And still sit down into wisdom in two things that can evolve experience in the kind of abilities of the new robot

21:14 And that's what they would do and i believe this was happening for us. They would also have like a little file folder partition somewhere that has bob in everything on time there is no duration of him all the data and all the information is backed up on the file folders they can reference it anytime they want, And I believe that's what we have, it is what we call our higher self and that's on what we would call the Akashic Record which is this cosmic database with our partition folder. We can access through hypnosis as easy to do and that there at all times you can access this information anytime you want but its not relevant to your life doesn't really matter what you did seven lifetimes ago in France or some shit like that doesn't really matter but if they're if you want to go on a little past life

21:57 No tourism journey but what really matters is the wisdom i did you learn and dad i believe it's still down a pass on from lifetime to lifetime and i think that we should do that with robots as well. It doesn't mean that they're like, I don't blinking our mind and this is some sort of a prison planet or soul trap anything like that i believe that we can get trapped here you know it can become a present for us just like school can to schools are present for a lot of people. But its the system and if you understand what how the system operates on system works in your game the system menu you work with assistance against it because a lot smoother easier, add think that my love is perspective i mean he said hell bad is

22:41 Are things really if you're sitting here watching the show that have electricity internet in like things can be too bad especially compared to historical times when none of that shit existed i mean they would look at. Even the most unfortunate person and today's time as ridiculously fortunate like oh my god almost like we have magical powers are you kidding me so much of it just perspective, And mindset you know that's i believe that ninety nine percent of life and happiness everything is just how you do things like to view it in a victim mindset like okay your dog get all sorts stuff. You know he learned the time in five years so they bring involved two point oh but they don't want to put out a start from scratch because this isn't everything, also need every single event and all that data information no just put into him because when you get a new phone and you immediately put your old shit new phone and then new phones by clagging your damnit

23:31 You want the new robot to be like clean slate and everything but you wanted to have the wisdom so they would create an algorithm that takes all of that information from five years. And still sit down into wisdom in two things that can evolve experience in the kind of abilities of the new robot And that's what they would do and i believe this was happening for us. They would also have like a little file folder partition somewhere the house bob in everything will time there is no duration of him all the data and all that information is backed up on the file folders they can reference it anytime they want, And I believe that's what we have, is what we call our higher self and that's on what we would call the Akashic Record which is this cosmic database with our partition folder. We can access it through hypnosis as easy to do and that's there at all times you can access this information anytime you want but its not relevant to your life It doesn't really matter what you did seven lifetimes ago in France or some shit like that doesn't really matter but if there if you want to go on a little past life

24:33 You know tourism journey but what really matters is the wisdom i did you learn and that i believe it's still down a pass on from lifetime to lifetime and then i think that we should do that with robots as well. It doesn't mean that they're like, I don't blinking or mind and this is some sort of a prison planet or soul trap anything like that i believe that. We can get trapped here you know it can become a prison for us just like school can to schools are present a lot of people, but its the system and if you understand what how the system operates on system works in your game the system in u work with assistance against it because a lot smoother easier and i think that my love is perspective i mean he said hell bad is

25:17 Are things really if you're sitting here watching the show that have electricity internet you know like things can be too bad especially compared to historical times when none of that shit existed i mean they would look at. Even the most unfortunate person in today's time as ridiculously fortunate like oh my god almost like we have magical powers are you kidding me so much of it just perspective, And mindset you know that's i believe thats ninety nine percent of life and happiness everything is just how you view things like do u view it in a victim mindset like ok, why is this happening to me or you be with us like okay this is the challenge and i'm supposed overcome the challenge like when i would describe simulator. I call it crossfit for consciousness like its suppose to be hard is really hard because thats how we learn but if you learn your lesson move forward then

26:03 Then that's behind you like so you play the video game and a bad guys coming at you, you wouldn't be like why is this bad guy trying to kill me know what did i do to you would be like yeah dude that says job he supposed to kill me i'm just not let him tell me that my job does his job right. So you have to look at life that way in kind of make it more fun and gamify because i think thats what we're doing here into your point about like. No pain suffering and that kinda stuff if u are internal consciousness and you live you exist in this kinda Like a better words spirit world is not physical domain where everything moves the speed of thought you have this sort of unlimited possibilities.

26:40 You know, it's hard to experience love. It's hard to experience achievement or any of the things that we experience in life because we don't have that duality out there. You gotta have hot to make cold and you gotta have dark to make light so think about people who play like Call Of Duty, Gears of War all these games that are like...you're putting your little virtual self into a fucking meat grinder and your going out there and your fighting bad guys and your getting blown up and your blowing other people and your doing all that its like why do we do that? Because right now most people playing that game are in a pretty cushy ass life and they want to experience that other side. So think about your soul it's in the pretty cushy ass like how on the other side for the most part so you come in here because of the adversity because of some of that darkness see how you handle it and how you deal with it, knowing that is temporary and I think thats a big part of the experience. I think its great framework

27:35 Party your bread and butter is the engineering of probability in one's life basically manifestation but a little bit of a different take on that and you do mention. Robert munro tom campbell as influences also neville goddard who i really got into for awhile i'd really, for some reason resonated with the way he would frame things talk to us about your concept of Manifestation or engineering probability i talked about this on a podcast i was on recently cuz i am believer in this. And all the comments were like i want a million dollars lol and it's like you know they're just being kinda shitty, that's fine but if you think that is the same as trying well i mean it couldn't be further from it your not in the right brainwave state, you're just not doing the techniques at all just to write a comment like that

28:26 But everybody looks around and they say, well if Jordan doesn't have a million dollars and isn't living the Wolf of Wall Street life how could it possibly work? Because how would he want anything but that. And he clearly doesn't have that So talk to us about some of these things I call it the I want a million dollars fallacy but you've talked about that too because as you taught so many people That comes up time and time again You have to walk them through it Walk them through to the end of that thought process Yeah i mean just run of the bat for that whole million dollar fallacy thing like always tell people focus on what you want and why you wanted not how you know, you're gonna get it release that to universe to deliver the hell when u really go into the white do you want which one do you wanna million dollars.

29:14 Never has anything to do with the money it has to do with the feeling okay well I want to quit my job i hate my job ok cool so you don't want a million dollars. You want a different job you on purpose you what you are something else to replace that part of your life because 40 50 60 hours a week is a lot and you don't like that job you like the feeling that you have when you go to work, you know that's what you're trying to replace And a million dollars won't necessarily just automatically replace that like i give you my dollars yeah you can quit your job but what's gonna fill that void say what you really have to figure out what it is you want and that's the biggest thing. Yes money can take care of some problems but it will cause other problems and so thats definitely not just the blanket solution so always try to take people into,

29:57 Why do you want it what are you really trying to get out of life and what do not like about your current life let's fix those things so. When it comes to probability engineering i started manifesting which is absolutely hate that word i just don't really know what else the call when i was dying in a lake i literally my body was dying at multiple organ failure My heart was about to explode i was like i shouldn't have left the hospital and when i got out of the hospital, and i needed to heal i started doing these sort of manifestation techniques to heal my body that's just trying everything i was throwing everything at the wall.

30:35 I use what's called patterning from the minnow institute i started having like literally miraculous recovery like to the point where my doctor was in tears and make people at the lab thought that the lab work was wrong there like we don't even know how you went from bad this good like it doesn't really make any sense. So is ok yeah now is like alright so these things seem to be working but like my wife is very she's more than me, And she would say it in this way that was like feel good you know and i'm like okay yeah you ask the universe delivers my getting okay sounds good but what's happening with the mechanism here. So i don't been to like just literally reality than nuts and bolts of reality, can you find out that even our physical classical reality is quantum by nature when you understand what quantum means quantum means that its essentially probabilistic that even like

31:28 You know the electron that goes around you know where i was told electrons like this billiard ball thing there no orbits the nucleus can't play in a solar system but it's not it's a probability cloud which means that its superposition dates, it doesn't really exist in a certain state or location until it needs to and tells observed measured so you realize that ok. All the things that make up our physical matter reality are quantum by nature quantum means is probably stick which means everything, it's probably stick with me does not terminus take a means i have like a certain subset of possibilities and each possibility has a probability assigned to it. And you can wait an effect in manipulate those probabilities so you can literally do things which i call probability engineering which affect the probability of certain

32:14 Things being chosen for like better words there's a thing called the collapse of the wave function and the way functions like this encapsulated set probabilities and what's that collapses typically. The highest probability choices selected so you can do things that will Essentially increase the odds and decrease the odds of certain paths being chosen in your life by just using mechanics, any sort of i can cross manifestation techniques with quantum mechanics to give it a framework. And it works fucking amazing like all the people that you have this have like crazy things happen in their life and i used it to do crazy things n

32:50 What you realize is that your not manifesting things out of thin air, all the possibilities for the most part or i'll say multiple possibilities exist but. You get to choose your own adventure game kind of thing you get a kinda choose which one do you want to work and happen whatever what path you wanna go down and you can either just let life happen in like chips live where they may or you can influence these things Can you learn that life is not able to reality is. Editable nothing is set in stone that there are like rule sets and there are no sort of parameters like i always say that everything is possible but not everything is probable doesn't mean that you can just do anything in the world,

33:32 your past and your present you have a trajectory i live in florida so i like to use the visual of the hurricane spaghetti noodle model thing so no one heard is coming the hosel getting new things. I'm here my girl here's a probability goes here probably go there that's what your life is like and then u can change those probabilities, when do you realize that then you're like oh so i can actually take control Conscious control of my life and affected in certain ways and that's not magic that's not who that's not mystical that's math i mean thats science and i think that there are things that happen like we talked about earlier some of these cold things i think there is.

34:11 Things that are collective better actually part of our physical like the simulator program itself, that are sort of more so set in stone that we can't really affect like i can personally effect some of these. I don't signpost center supposed to happen but then your own physical life like in your own physical reality because we all Are in this like participatory universe where we're rendering around reality you can absolutely affect your own reality and some pretty amazing ways healing, end success and relationships and business and all sorts of things by just adjusting. Like internal things that's not adjusting anything the world you're adjusting how you see the world and you're adjusting probabilities events and those can snowballing really have some pretty amazing outcomes

34:58 Yeah i think it's legit. It's funny that I was recently in the hospital for extreme pain and, the last thing i had seen before going in with somebody's instagram about the Monroe code for pain management 55515. And you just repeat that yourself silently meditate on it and then imagine like a dial in that part of your body turning the pain down? I think it worked 30% or so but like i definitely was Not in as excruciating pain and i felt like wow i think i just cracked something and, when you look at the things that the CIA has studied and then suppressed or classified a lot of it is this kind of stuff if u go back to the grimoires and the things that were in these old books that.

35:47 Authorities would kill you like peel your skin off or burn you for owning for having these are codes. They're different versions of the code to take i have a goat you take that, feather of a crow and on equinox u do this and that and then you can make this other thing happen Who knows really how many codes are baked into reality? I mean, there could be infinite and they have to be discovered or catalogued. And there's a lot of authority throughout many different periods of history that are like don't fucking go there we will kill you! We'll destroy any institution you build which is curious like i thought about that with the Monroe Institute. I mean, I guess people can teach remote viewing in this kind of stuff it was classified for a long time

36:34 Still kind of frowned upon i guess but why do you think the cia let's them in row institute continue on you think that would be one of the types of things it would get shut down. Well, I think for the longest time no special and robert was alive you know they were the tip of a spear for all this stuff don't reason see when army back then the army was darman intelligence was actually more powerful than cia The reason they came to the monroe institute get trained is because russia was doing these things and we found out that russia had these psychic spies in with remote viewing and do anything. And are people like oh shit like we miss a cold war you know like week we can't let him get it start so there like who is the tip of the spear when it comes this stuff and it was robert munro in the minnow suit, so what time and people give me shit all the times are like he was a plant any work is like

37:25 Dude if the government military comes to you during a cold war and says we need your help training our soldiers you don't say no right i got me a weird thing that would have been the end of everything so he said ok all hell. It's like a gun manufacturer makes it gotten they don't know what people are gonna do with the guy made his make the gun but he just taught them How the stuff works he didn't tell them to go do all the shady shit they ended up doing with mk ultra and that kind of stuff i get no part in any of that, that was how they decided to use the gun that you made now. He was using it for peaceful exploration purposes you know basically everything he did was just exploring you know the non physical dimensions and altered states of consciousness but when your hammer everything's a nail on there a hammer but so. The reason i think that they allowed them to just

38:13 Persist is cuz back then especially he was very low key they have a. Institute and the mountains in virginia it's beautiful beautiful campus, but very few people know about it very few people go there and they do in person residential retreats you know they're not really making big waves in the world it still for like decades and decades of their existence that was so niche no one even knew about It wasn't really until all that stuff got declassified when they declassify the CIA assessment of the gateway process. And then that even got declassified in the early 2000s and no one knew because they don't make a big hoopla about it, they'll just like subtly declassify it and put it in their archive on their website so no one even really knew and cared. Then it was actually like COVID when everything got locked down and all these TikTokers found it and were like whoa!

39:05 Have you seen the shit like blue their minds and then it blew everyone's mind but all that was like fifty year old documents right. So for the longest time all this is flown under the radar no one really cared in a lot of people go to minnows do it completely public anyone can go, but the government was still sending people there sort of low key they weren't telling even the monroe institute these people were but they were like sending people there to be routinely trained so they were using the institute to do stuff like covertly And you know i think that it still is the tip of the spear is still is the most effective way to train yourself to build an alter states a consciousness. Who knows what their thoughts are now because cats out of bag and like now its kind of exploding like they're really making big waves now but for 60 years, no one knew who the hell they were so I don't think there was a big deal to them

40:00 That's fair and nobody can answer why it was declassified i would imagine you would just be because they thought it was in consequential. But only time will tell where the middle of a story so we'll see how far goes but getting back to the ability to engineer probability, there are many mechanisms for this my buddy gordon white used up go hard at sigil magic and he had a whole robust system of it And a lot of it is the subconscious, so you got to get out of your own way and there's many mechanisms to be able to get out of your own way. To engineer you getting out of your own way but

40:34 But talk to us about some of the principles of it. There's a lot of nuance, people will definitely have to dig in deeper but the bullet points of how it's done? It starts with getting yourself into like a hypnagogic type of state right? For parts of it yeah so I use a 20...I created a 21 day method which I'm actually distilling down to attend a level 2 is coming out probably in two weeks and its gonna be a 10 part thing What i do is we start with the weather i call him vm and some in marketing so you know a long time ago there's this thing came out called mvp right change silicon valley and basically then bps the minimally viable product before that silicon valley and tech startups would. Overcomplicate things and they were really go bankrupt before ever releasing a product because it try to make a perfect perfection as the enemy of progress so you know the studio came out eric rise and he wrote a book. Call the lean startup and said,

41:29 create a minimally viable product. Just the mantra that Silicon Valley adapted after that was called, fuck it launch it and they would just say fuck it launch it and then iterate and fix things as you go don't wait for perfection. That's what ruined gaming by the way launching half-baked games You don't want your doctor to say it yeah but in certain things the whole point is get something out there get the minimally viable product out there and then listen to your community and work hard to iterate into a ball that as you go with feedback. So, What I did is i created an MVM, your minimally viable manifestation. And what that is it's a thing you're trying to manifest because manifestation at the end of the day is just goal setting and essentially if you really want to boil down its trying to get what you want out of life that all it is are you trying to heal something or are you trying to meet someone or are you trying to move somewhere get a better job feel happier? What do you wanna get out of life thats all this

42:23 So you create an mvm which is a manifestation goal that is obtainable and measurable but it's right outside your comfort zone stretches you pushes you something that probably wouldn't happen if u weren't doing all these things right. And why we do that is because It creates this internal knowing inside of you it quite your left analytical mind which is basically saying this is all bullshit and that gives you the achievable goal when you achieve it, can u build momentum and then we turn in mvm into what's called a b.a.m which is a big ass man station anyways that level two so we start with the npm so now you have your objective

42:59 And we go through twenty one days where you are probability engineering and everyday stacks on the one before and you basically create this situation where the probability of it happening is almost inevitable. You phrase that to almost a hundred percent we do this by a lot of time travel we going to our past use something called revision therapy and i have guided meditation for this Where you literally go to a past event that is serving as like almost like a tether or blockage for you to obtain this goal and you revise it. You revise that memory, you don't change the past what you do is you change the ending feeling because so much of our forward progress is stymied by our past and these traumas and these doubts and stuff come from our past. So we have to release at first before we can go forward then we do some forward time travel where we literally create

43:48 Future self so like one of my favorite parts of it i got the future self filter and this is all the time its amazing where you create this. I do version of yourself like let's just say five years in the future everything goes perfect in greg life this is optimal greg five years in a feature, end your visualize that u make it real you create dislike virtual version of yourself and then what you do Every decision you have throughout the day no matter how small or big. You run it through this filter and you say what would future greg do this, what feature me do this with a yes to this notice that be happy with me doing this will be disappointed in as u do this

44:27 Can you have future u basically calling the shots for all of your decisions especially big ones, you morph into this version of yourself overtime just slowly turn this person and then you just look back one day like holy shit i am now that version that i used to imagine being real i am it. And thats a very very effective Can you see all these things were doing are mental there is a workbook but it's all it's all up here it's all mental and when you do these things like repetition is really important you can't just once, when you actually make these things like processes that you integrate your life we do schedule making i think symbols in schedules are super important. I want people through making a schedule and

45:09 You know repetition again you know putting them in certain places and that kind of stuff so you see it more there's a lot of different things that we do. Like i'll tell you one of the most effective things that we do and it didn't think i would like as much they did is scripting where you literally fast forward down the road however much you want a year two years could be a month whatever when you achieve your goal you actually gone past your goal. And what you do is u right like almost like a journal entry in a book cuz writing is really powerful because writing is just like manifestation are taking a non physical thought turning into physical matter and you write,

45:45 Essentially how you got from where you are now to there can go through some of the things and it makes me realize that okay a some of the stuff isn't that hard like we, what kind of like. You know i like cynica says we suffer more imagination than in reality so sometimes will make things seem harder then they are and then you start to write down anything through it oh i can do that i can do that i can do that you know, who is your start from the end and u right how you got from point A to point B when he being here point being their You know we do some of that stuff we do some quantum entanglement stuff for me literally join like a kind of a quantum level with our future self sort of establishing that link and not pathway so all sorts of stuff like that. Yeah i imagine stacking,

46:31 Those different modalities is just got a amplify everything the thing i like about neville goddard does he talk so much about. What to do when you're falling asleep and we all have the time when were falling asleep to concentrate on certain outcomes we would want, He talks about visualizing the wish fulfilled. He talks about your subconscious being like a loving parent, but you've never gone to your loving parent and told it what you want so it can't even give it to you when you think about like at 40 years old, you've slept for 10s of 10 thousand nights never once have he thought about your dreams while you fall asleep? Like what you might wanna manifest but

47:13 You know just visualize it as you're falling asleep you can almost say that some of this stuff is the baked in reason we do dream and sleep like to tell us what reality is to remind us even though we come in with no memory every night you must sleep. And realize that its not a physical reality that there's something else going on every night should be a clue, But i just like his is whole approach of using that moment of sleep because there's been so many bright minds in the past who would fall asleep with a coin and their hand and drop it because they get the best idea inspiration and that hypnagogic state.

47:49 And it's just something you can use instead of scrolling your phone or falling asleep watching tv just shut it down and just think about some manifestation that you want in the near future, and visualize already happening put a motion into it. If you wanna car you know you gotta open the card on your mind you got to smell that car you gotta rub the dashboard that car you gotta feel everything make it real in your minds eye and then fall asleep and you might find yourself Getting a car somehow or an opportunity for good deal i'll tell you real quick i have what i call the dream recall protocol and it's part of this. And sleep is a gigantic part of this like you for all the reasons you just mentioned so what would i do as i create mental movie, so you talk about how neville goddard talks about being in the wish fulfilled state so say for example a big one people usually want to make a new house they wanna new house you don't manifest

48:43 The house itself what you do is you go past it and say okay well what about like three months down the road after i get a house in town housewarming party okay cool. So now your focusing on the house warming party you already have the house so if u can manifest that party, obviously gonna get the house houses inevitable to the house of the party so focus on the house create a mental movie sixty second Mental clip like you said your welcoming your guest your pouring champagne high five and people are jumping in the pool right here feeling that you can smell the food there you can feel, energy and excitement you create a little sixty second mental movie of that. Can u play that mental movie in your head as you go to sleep so when you lay down to go to sleep no phones know nothing you're not hypnotic state that twilight state you know between wake and sleep. Any start up play that in your head and repeat it in your head is many times you have to the same clip

49:32 Until you fall asleep. Okay, so when you fall asleep now you falling asleep inside this environment inside this world and let your subconscious take it run with it And it helps to do a little gratitude exercise right before, so you're just in a higher vibration state. But do that and fall asleep okay? Now that's part one when you wake up in the morning You don't pop out of bed right? Don't even go pee or anything Just wake up and immediately go back to sleep So what started off as like a 60 second clip When you go back into it this is when you can use lucid dreaming principles but when you go back into that dream just think about it

50:09 Go back into that dream. Ideally, there will be some flash that pops in your head you know when you wake up in the first morning of this flash of a dream like I was fucking crazy dream and then all sudden it's gone well go into it and kind of like when your video editing and you can kinda move the handles forward backward stuff to extend a clip do that what I do is I kinda try to see what comes after What comes before and the more you do it you can massage that timeline and you can start to go forward backward in that moment, end of conscious awareness cuz u are lucid at point. And you can actually kind of be in a dream when i've done this what happens is you see some of the things your subconscious comes up with and this kinda world building that does in your dreams date

50:52 And you can observe that stuff but you have to do it like immediately when he first wake up because it's very fleeting and I just do this when I have regular dreams like every morning when I wake up by doing the same thing. I reinsert myself back in my dream back into that tiny tiny snippet a tiny window reinsert yourself in there and get good at like moving around going backwards going forward looking around that kind of stuff so as soon as I do that with my manifestation as well because what I found is that When you go to sleep in that state of the mental movie can you let your subconscious run with it will. Do things and put things in there and create things like does this world building type thing, that you would never do they would never expect some other things can be huge clues and symbols and sometimes its like little moments you're like why was this person their like i didn't expect that you're like what is this person have to deal with this right on a phone that's red right so i do harness the power of

51:44 Sleep and dreaming and i really think that can't like the movie dark city on a fear seen it. Yeah great movie if you ever just gone outside and gone for walk at three thirty in the morning right, The world is different the world is way different when everyone's asleep when the conscious collective energy powers down, the system starts to do it housecleaning that's when these things like you said earlier that quote synchronicity as a universe of staying anonymous. I really think that so much of our like manifestation abilities and so many things that when we create new loops for me create new things. That can't happen in a waking life it is cant i would fuck things up has to happen when were sleeping or power down and i think the system actually does,

52:32 like create it does all sorts of things you know housework and creation while everyone's asleep. And that's why when you go outside just to walk around at 330 in the morning, it feels like you're doing something wrong if he'll be really feel like there is a strange energy in the air I think because you kind are in that you're not supposed to be there. You know can't deal so there isn't kind of magical power of sleep the sleep time your dreams and just general that time period night when things are happening. So anyways Yeah, I like it and before the first hours over. I wanted to fold this in its surprising that it would relate but I think a lot of this does relate to your take on

53:13 The missing anti gravity free energy sciences at least in terms of how reality is structured and the do's and don'ts of it all and there's kind of a parallel between. This kinda work and maybe them and rose stuff there some similarities, end theme but not necessarily approach and you think that might be important right Yeah you know i get so much hate for this is it should you know i have my people that light me up on certain topics and this is definitely one of them because, i'm in no way saying that we shouldn't be pushing the envelope and we shouldn't be exploring these things and we should all be naturally curious right. And when it comes to things like anti gravity and free energy and all stuff of course like a weedy crazy did not be pursuing these things but I think that the system that we exist in has a

54:04 Equilibrium that is trying to maintain and there's managers of the system right like any good system. And that are conscious development has to at least be a part with our technological development, and i think that when it comes to some of these things we're not quite area people be like oh so why would this system you know knock off these people looking into things like free energy. It's just not quite bad is that When we understand that we can basically extract you know enough energy out of like a freaking no inch of space time to destroy the earth like thousands of times right like it's an insane amount of energy when you can actually pierce that vacuum and if i could actually harness that energy in the ways that.

54:49 These people trying to do it's not just cool we can get off our reliance of gas is more so like. No where should i do that with nuclear two and what are we doing made bombs in drop them on innocent people like, we don't have a good track record with the stuff so i really think that the amount of power that we would get from cracking anti gravity and you know being able extract energy out of there either that kind of How are has to come with a level of responsibility that i just don't see in the collective you know not the way it's structured now doesn't mean average people and i think you couldn't handle order bob over here can handle it. The way the world is structured now and i think thats pretty obvious well i like half your argument i dislike half of it but the part i dislike is you know,

55:38 For example use the nuclear example on twitter saying this was a test and we failed because we made a bomb inside well. If you're gonna say that i'm playing it for seven billion people five people can't weaponize the technology will never get there, literally ninety nine percent of people wouldn't have weaponized they would just power their lives in improved the energy abundance within their own circle, but you can't control other people. And yeah it is like a minutia of people... It's the same argument of like ETs they want to come and help us but we're just not ready it's like WE what is the We? 7 billion people so it doesn't matter how evolved I am or you are matters that like the least common denominator amongst us So I don't like that argument But what you've said that-that is interesting to me is You know from the simulator perspective

56:27 We can't leave the simulator. You basically said if the virtual characters began to hack the system and attempt to leave, the systems guardrails would intervene and you believe that is what is happening? We don't physically leave the simulator but we do spiritually ascend it when you put on a VR headset and enter the virtual environment your avatar inside the game never leaves! Your not gonna leave in any physical sense but you can leave by taking off the headset And that I think is really interesting because in the second hour, I plan to ask you more about this connection between T Townsend Brown and through Agnes Bronson.

57:06 Robert munro but that's basically the two people you got t townsend brown trying to use all the physical means. Do crack this system and then you have robert munro using a spiritual means and he has success, end essentially at they achieve the same end goal which is like almost like limitless travel You do it consciously or you do it through a machine but the end goal they almost both achieved it but one. Has a public institution that any of us could go and check out and the other is buried in the basement area fifty one and if u reveal what you get killed,

57:44 So I don't know, i think there's something interesting about the parallels between the two approaches of physical or consciousness based approach to the same end goal of limitless potential and limitless travel throughout whatever this simulator is. Yeah i'm a call it escape velocity that's what you're trying to achieve is the state of lossy your trying to either escape. Earth gravitational pull or the spiritual gravity that you have no hold up yourself into here and people fire back me and say well there are anti gravity craft with seen on we've recovered on that kind of stuff in, My response that is i am ninety nine percent sure that those are trust real made and these advanced beings on these advance craft, are all from in our stock here in earth and what happens if you achieve this level of technological understanding any create this anti gravity craft. And you can travel when you realize that you can't actually leave the physical simulator but you can manipulate time because essentially there intrinsically link to the new minute play gravity manipulate time

58:47 What do you do you travel around time in your same location like u can get a craft that craft doesn't physically move but you can go to different. Time periods and i really think that some of these things we call nordics and these things are we going to pose our craft that were actually made by future humans, that are escaping to the past probably to avoid some sort of calamity