John Lash | Gnosticism, Sophia, & The Archon Control Matrix

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats Hallelujah, higher side chatters. How we doing today? Drinking a little drink smoking a little smoke from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and today is quite a show because as we continue our quest to nail down and identify the puppet masters the power pyramid and unravel our lost history

00:47 We've been hearing the term Archon thrown around more than tear gas in Baltimore as the quintessential apex of humanity's problems. And our guest today probably knows more about the archons and that possibility than anyone else I could put before you, largely credited with bringing the Gnostic Intel to the internet in 2002 his name is John Lash lifelong student and teacher of world mythology tantra Buddhism pre-christian mysteries and of course gnosticism He's the author of several books, including Not In His Image and he has created quite a vast trove of suppressed information at Metahistory.org Here to give us the tools to fight back the control of the archonic overlord set the story straight and drop Gnostic wisdom like a Johnny Appleseed in Nagamati texts here is John Maman welcome to THC Well thank you it's good to be with you

01:34 Yeah, John. Thanks for being here it's a real pleasure and I know we have to kind of start this thing by dedicating just a little time to the Sophia myth because it really is the only true context for the Archon story from what I understand and not many guests give us that context but I've also heard you say that this story of Sophia is the most suppressed and hidden story in all of mythology which in our backwards world is usually a good indication that there's more reason to pay attention wouldn't you say? Well, it sure is. I mean how many of us today who are trying to keep track of the insanity of the world and the false flag operations and the deceit of media and lies and machinations of politicians

02:19 and so forth, ad nauseum how many of us have come to understand the simple fact that if something is repressed or if you can't talk about it or know about it, its probably really important for human survival. And that certainly applies to the intel of the Gnostics and to what I call, the Sophianic myth of the mysteries. The pre-Christian pagan mysteries. Historically speaking, the story of the Aeon Sophia which you can consider as a narrative, call it a narrative or a myth whichever you like has been the single most repressed

03:10 piece of knowledge in all of human history. And we're extremely lucky that we have even been able to recover this piece of knowledge from the mystery schools, this gem of a narrative because of documents that were discovered in Egypt in 1945 and other materials, very meager materials as you know. Very scant materials in a rather shambolic and disordered condition but nonetheless if you apply discipline to organize those materials as I have done and if you pull together the plot it turns out that the

03:59 material from the Gnostics contains the single and comprehensive description of the origin of humanity and of life on this planet. The single coherent description. Wow! Yeah, and that's really a kind of shock that such a big shock I think. That even though I can say it in plain English it doesn't necessarily register on people's minds you know? Right But that is fact It's not a claim my making about the Gnostic explanation of how humanity originated

04:42 the origin of extraterrestrial or alien intrusion upon our world, the origin of the planet itself, the origin of the three Abrahamic religions and all this. I'm not just making a claim as if i were to say well... I like this better than any other and so I want you to think it's the best explanation around! It is the only complete and coherent explanation of those things that exists. That is a fact." It is an epic narrative, man and it does tie up so many loose threads so maybe we can dive into the story a little bit I know you've given plenty of lengthy interviews and breakdowns of the Sophia myth but maybe we can recount the parts that are important and that we truly need to hear to understand the context of the Archons and understand how life works in this world because it also explains quite a bit on that front too. Well it explains a great deal

05:41 But before we go into that, and I would love to give you say the three or four essential outstanding factors of the narrative. Sure! But before going into that, I want to make a sort of disclaimer which is that this narrative is not something that can be spoon-fed to human mind So those of you, some of you may be hearing this narrative or hearing about this narrative for the first time. Others who know my work to a greater or lesser extent may already know the narrative there is something going in that everyone should recognize and everyone should take a moment just take a moment to stop and reflect on what I'm going to say now The Gnostic intel in the Sophianic narrative

06:39 explaining the origin of life on earth and the purpose of life, cannot be received merely as information. You cannot receive it in a merely passive manner The nature of this information is so powerful It is like a psychoactive plant influencing your mind When you take a psychoactive plant, you must interact with the intelligence of that plant. Isn't that correct? That is true! Right... Well likewise the Sophianic narrative is like a living entity and it's so powerful that if you're going to take it on, if you're going to consider it You must realize in the first place that you cannot be a passive recipient of this information That you must become a participant

07:34 This is a requirement of the Gnostic Intel. You must become a participant who evolves and develops this information actively, so I just want to put that out as an advisory message before we go into the narrative itself how does that sound? That's perfect yeah that makes a lot of sense Okay what could i say to bring to the attention of someone hearing about this for the first time, for instance. What could I say by way of highlighting the four key factors of the Sophianic myth? The Sophianic vision story as I call it. Well it's quite simple to do that because the nature of the human mind is to seek answers

08:38 And there may be a lot of people on the planet today, I don't know. How many people are supposed to be here? Six and half billion? Yeah! Okay that's a lot of people so maybe who knows... A large number of those people who are not interested in the answers to certain ultimate questions. It's possible that they've just lost interest, but those human animals who are still awake and who are functioning as intelligent creatures, intelligent beings are certainly going to have the craving and a need to ask certain questions. What are these questions? Okay first of all where does human life originate

09:28 Okay, mm-hmm. That's a question how did the planet Earth itself come to exist? And that's a question Are there alien or external extraterrestrial entities who are inimical inimical to the human species and Who attack and prey on the human species and how did they originate that's a really big question yes it is and finally Just what is it about the human mind that has brought us to a situation in the world today where many things in our world, in our social order and our collective life seem to be going very badly wrong? Another way to formulate that question would be perhaps how did humanity get

10:29 on such a track towards self-destruction as we see today, right? Well these are all valid questions and the Sophianic narrative answers these questions in a coherent and very lucid manner. And so anyone who is still seeking for answers to those question if you're not satisfied with the answers that might come from religion and you're still looking would do well to consider what the Gnostics said. So, I'll tell you now what they said about these questions and how they answered these questions First of all, what i call the Sophianic myth is really a story about a goddess It's a narrative about a central character And that character in that myth or narrative

11:26 is a goddess, not a god. It's a female divine being on the cosmic or galactic level and her name is Sophia which means wisdom we give her name We could give our other names but this is the traditional name that comes to us with Intel okay? We call this goddess Sophia and The story that contains the answers to these ultimate questions is really her biography. Now that's simple enough, I think. Yes Yeah you know human beings love stories so this is a story it's not a made-up story I must emphasize It's a story that was constructed through

12:16 many centuries of careful investigation and teamwork by shamans who were capable of investigating such mysteries. And so it is a story that comes from a source of high authenticity, So what the Gnostics told us these ancient seers or shamans called the Gnostic was that in order to understand What we as human animals are doing on this planet, we have to go back to the origin of the human species or the human genome which they called the Anthropos. Which is a Greek word you can translate that word as The seed or genome Of the anthropine Species We are the anthropine species So how did our species originate?

13:14 Well, the answer to that big question is that it originated in the core of the galaxy where we are currently located. So, the first thing I guess you could say – tell me what you think of this – but the first thing people need to do who want to consider the Gnostic creation story if you will call it a creation story, is to understand that it's set in our galaxy! The setting is very important. That's true of any story, isn't it? Think of any novel that you've ever read. Think of any movie you've ever seen. It has to be in a setting doesn't it? Of course! Right well the beautiful thing I find or something that I myself find very appealing about the Gnostic myth is that it tells you precisely what the setting is The setting is not the universe at large The setting is not some

14:21 place beyond time and space where everything miraculously originates. No, the setting is in the galaxy that we are in! We inhabit a galaxy human beings living today myself sitting here talking to you and all of you out there listening have one thing in common...we're all inhabiting a planet That planet belongs to a solar system that is to say a central star with other planets And that planetary system is embedded in the arms of a galaxy. This is the cosmic picture, we are in fact embedded in the third arm counting from the center outward... In the third arm of a lenticular spiral galaxy which has a core or hub and it has four encircling arms in the form of like a pinwheel

15:23 That is the cosmic setting of the Sophianic myth. It does not purport to explain how the galaxies originated, and there are billions of such galaxies as we know today. It simply goes to our galaxy and goes through the core of our galaxy, and that's where the story of Sophia begins. So technically speaking this is an astronomical myth. Is that clear? That's very clear. And then I guess these beings, that Sophia being one of them they live in the center of this galaxy right? That's right! According to the Gnostic seers who investigated the universe with their minds who use their intelligence to explore not only the natural world but the cosmos of the stars and planets according to them

16:17 at the center of our galaxy today, which is called the Milky Way Galaxy. At the hub which is about 20 said to be in scientific terms about 26 thousand light years from where we are We're out in the limbs and the third limb 26 thousand light-years toward the center of the galaxy and there at the hub Is a huge mass of luminosity Now, what I'm saying here is something that astronomers and astrophysicists themselves would say. So the Gnostic myth is in many respects completely compatible with the modern scientific description of our galaxy � totally compatible! So, the galaxy consists of this core or hub

17:14 and these spiral arms, and it has a lenticular structure. That is to say if you look at it edge-on, it has a bulge in the middle and then it narrows down to the edges so its lentil shaped. According to the Gnostics this whole galaxy is alive but it is alive in two different ways The way that life appears at the core of the galaxy which they call the Pleroma P-L-E-R O-M-A is different than the way that life appears in the four circling arms. But there is life all through the galaxy. What they taught was that beings, actual living self conscious beings capable of divine beings gods and goddesses if you will, capable of volition

18:15 capable of acts of will, capable of perception, of seeing feeling sensing just like other living creatures inhabit the core of the galaxy. So the core of the galaxy in which there are no stars and planets but only a kind of raw unformed stellar luminosity ball of stellar luminosity, it was perceived by them to be the habitat of these beings and they called them Aeons. So aeon is the Gnostic word for a god

18:59 and they discerned that there were male-gendered and female gendered aeons. And that's not so difficult to understand, because if you think of the Aeons or Gnostic gods as powerful currents of energy massive torrents of energy then you can understand that they would be comparable to positively and negatively charged fields. So the idea of sexuality or gender among these deities is not a big problem. So anyway, according to them these beings should not be regarded as angelic don't picture them as angels with wings Don't picture them having any kind of anthropomorphic form

19:52 We can ascribe to them feelings, such as human animals have and thought, as I said and will which we consider to be human properties. But they are not to be conceived as human forms if you need to conceive them or visualize them the best way to do it is to picture them as vast torrents or serpent-like currents of energy Hmm serpent-like. Serpent like that's the closest analogy and the most accurate analogy they are like great sky dragons and great serpents of light that swim and circulate in swimming dance in the core of a galaxy this is what the myth says, and the story of humanity begins there because the myth says very specifically that these Aeons have away that they passed their time

20:47 You see, they live for countless millions and millions of years as long as the galaxy lives. They are living at the center of the galaxy that is their habitat. They do not live in the galactic limbs I'll get to what happens in the galactic limbs in a moment so they live there and it's their pleasure and way to use their time you might say to perform experiments So, the way to think of them is one way to think of them is as scientists or kind of like artists and scientists a combination who love to perform and create experiments. And one of the ways that they do this is by designing life forms. They design genomic patterns or what is technically called genomic plasm

21:47 And they design these plasms. So, if you were to ask a Gnostic well where does human life originate? Where does the DNA of the human genome originate? They would say simply it is designed in the galactic core by Aeons for the purposes of conducting an experiment this is their explanation they give for the origin of our life form and all other life forms in the galaxy, but we're only interested in ours at first because obviously I think you would agree if we don't understand our own life form and how and why it is designed well there's no point in understanding anything else. Is there? Agreed Right so that's the explanation so far

22:38 To be more specific, they said that the human genome of which I am an expression. Every human animal, every human being who has ever lived is an expression of the human genome as we know the DNA of humanity is one consistent plasm or it is one consistent matrix of nucleic acid. Okay? So yeah a nucleic acid so This particular genome that came to be manifested as humanity on the Earth, was designed according to the Gnostics by two aeons. A male aeon called Thelete and female aeon called Sophia. They gave them these names simply because for the purposes of human intelligence we need names, we need to name things and define things in order to understand them. They're very limited

23:39 Terms, but nevertheless they express the truth about the phenomena. Okay perfect right So there is an element at this point in the story I believe that is really interesting to me and that's that It seems like this plasm has been doled out to places other than Earth in previous cycles and apparently it originated near the Orion Nebula which is interesting because there's authors who've written about the Vatican's interest in the Orion Nebula and all their symbolism hidden in their paintings. And so that's kind of a cross-reference that I found really interesting but, uh...I'll let you pick this story up but I just wanted to make that point about the Orion Nebula playing a role in this tale

24:21 Yes, well it's a good point because it brings us to the logical question which follows now. If the human genomic plasm was actually designed by these divine beings in their galactic core then how did they deploy it so that it could unfold in an experiment? How did they deploy that plasma? Well, according to the Gnostic view of our galaxy there is no animal life or no sentient life and there are not even stars or planets at the core of the galaxy. And science would agree on this

25:07 because the mass of stellar luminosity at the core of the galaxy is in a constant state of eruption that does not support any structures of life. So if life as we know it, is going to appear and emerge in the galaxy, it has to have another environment in which it can appear. Well that is what the galactic limbs provide so the spiraling arms of the galaxy which surround it consists of a heavier kind of matter unlike the matter at the core of the galaxy which is pure stellar plasma and stellar luminosity. The matter that is swirling in the external limbs of the galaxy, and this also by the way is high school level astronomy that I'm talking here, consists

26:05 other kinds of matter that are heavier matter, elementary particles and basically what is swirling around in the galactic arms is matter as we know it. The constituents of matter as we know it. The elements that form material worlds so material planets can form in the external limbs of the galaxy but they cannot form at the core Nevertheless, at the core of the human genome and genomes of other creatures are designed. So the question is how do you get that designer plasm out of the core and out into the galactic limbs so that it can eventually evolve into creatures who live in the worlds that arise in those limbs?

26:56 I call the worlds that arise in the galactic limbs planetary laboratories, like the Earth. The Earth is a planetary laboratory. A laboratory is a place where an experiment takes place and the subject of the experiment is a living creature or many living creatures but in our case we want to understand how we ourselves are the subject of the experiment So, the living creature of the Anthropos emerges in planets which exist in the galactic arms. The way that this is done is described quite specifically in the Gnostic Cosmological Text where they say that once the Aeons have designed a creature, a living plasm, they actually project it into the outer arms of the galaxy

27:53 which they do by a kind of method that could be compared to using the device that is used to fertilize an ovum artificially. A pipette, that's the word okay? A pipette is a really long glass nozzle that has been used to capture a sperm when the sperm is then injected into the ovum in artificial insemination. Is that correct? We've all seen that image, right? Right It's an image magnified obviously by an electron microscope

28:36 many, many times. So you can see the living sperm being ejected down the channel of this glass tube and then it is injected into the ovum They use that kind of method and what they do is they emanate from their galactic core a kind of stalk of light which itself is an extension of the plasma of the core And through that stalk of light they implant the Plasm that has been designed in some place in the galactic limbs. Now there are many, many places that they could do that so it follows from the logic of this description that there are many life forms evolving all around in our galaxy and there are literally millions of planets that support different life forms in our galaxy So... In order to... For this process

29:37 develop in the way that is of interest to the aeons, they like to have the experiment be left to its own development. So they don't control their experiment after certain point. Once the human genome was designed it was implanted in the third arm of this spiral galaxy in a particular place and there are places in the spiral arms locations that are especially favorable to the nesting of these plasms. And these places are called molecular clouds, go look up what is a molecular cloud? The Orion Nebula is a molecular cloud and what scientists now know and I've... it's to my knowledge this has only been a matter of common knowledge to astrophysicists

30:38 for about maybe 10 years, is that these molecular clouds such as you see in the Orion Nebula M42 are saturated with water. Well don't you think that a a cloud of water, a cloud of mist it's immense by the way. It's immensely more huge than the solar system would be an ideal place to deposit this living plasm because we know that life needs water correct? That is correct! Yeah and so according to that scenario the Aeons implanted

31:26 this genome which had been designed by Felite and Sophia in the Orion Nebula, in the molecular cloud. And then they just let it be! Well what happens next? Well the Aeons do not control the way that the experiment unfolds They're really interested in letting the experiments happen according to the conditions provided by the cosmos According to those conditions, as we know today there are filaments of plasma electrified plasm that run all through the galactic arms. And these filaments of plasma are able to capture these... These plasma filaments rather, are able to capture these genomes and transplant them through space This idea then is that life on Earth

32:22 comes from outer space. That is a fact, but it does not just come from anywhere in outer space It comes from a molecular cloud in outer space that has itself been seeded From the core of the galaxy this is the description you get astronomically from the Gnostic materials and then does it come out kind of like mushroom spores? I would say that mushroom spores are the best example that we have of how this process unfolds. And I find that interesting because there's a lot of psychedelic proponents, people who are fans of the magic mushroom who talk about its innate intelligence and talk about how spores are one the very few things or the only thing that modern science can say can survive in a vacuum. So this theory that it is seeded from a mushroom has parallels to other peoples interpretations also so i find that an interesting footnote also

33:22 Well, it's more than a footnote. I think it is a piece of intel from the indigenous wisdom of our tribe, of humanity, from the indigenous peoples who have used these psychoactive mushrooms and modern day psychonauts. It's a piece of intel that totally complementary with Gnostic Intel. You could say that Gnostic Intel teaches that human genome The DNA from which human animals develop, pre-exists in spores that are captured in a molecular cloud in Orion. And those spores are subject to drift out of that cloud on plasmic filaments which are now known to exist and penetrate the galactic arms if you go to plasma cosmology or the Electric Universe people they talk about this constantly

34:22 They talk about these plasma filaments that run between stars and that run through interstellar space. So these plasma filaments are like currents, that can carry these seeds of life. Lin Margulis who was one of the originators of Gaia theory or the Gaia hypothesis did not adhere to the Gnostic view of life, I discussed it with her at some length and she knew about it because she read my book. But in fact her view of how life originated was identical with what the Gnostics said She called these spores propagules and she said that these spores that contain life in a freeze-dried form

35:09 are able to survive through vast distances of interstellar space, through the vacuum of space and through very intense cold. And then when they drift down into a planetary atmosphere and settle into a planetary environment that is warm and moist they burst open and they propagate life so she called them propagules So we here speaking today you and I and everyone who's listening are here on the planet because propagules floated into the atmosphere of the Earth, were carried towards the atmosphere of the Earth by plasma filaments and were seated in the atmosphere of the earth. That is why there is human life on the planet earth today. Man it's such a rich and dense story and makes a lot of sense but

36:04 We are almost a quarter of the way through this thing and we have so much story left. Can we, because I have a lot of questions for you about how this relates to the real world today major religions our modern geopolitics? So maybe we can bring it up to how the earth was formed and the archons kind of come out of that same event right? Sure if you give us I'm looking at the clock. If you give us 15 more minutes on a mythological background, then we can fast forward to those other subjects. That is perfect John! Okay so now we come to the question of well does that mean that other strains of this human Anthropos plasm have seated on other planets in this galaxy? Well absolutely yes

36:55 And currently, right now as I speak there are probably other strains of the same human genome living on other Earth-like planets here and there around the galaxy. Most certainly highly, highly probable! You know one of the discoveries in science in the last 10 years that has been most let's say that has gotten a lot of attention is the existence of many Earth like planets Isn't that true? It is. Right, so there are other Earth-like planets, there are other planetary laboratories in which other strains of humanity are evolving completely independent of us

37:36 And the Aeons in the Galactic Center, using their divine powers of observation are observing these experiments and watching how they develop. They're not interfering with them! They don't have a beginning, middle and end plan for these experiments because they like to leave the experiments open-ended. You could say that the Divine Gods of the galaxy respect the freedom of the experiment and it may crash, it may go bad or it may develop in a beautiful and harmonious way. This is what makes it interesting but now we come to a really peculiar point about Gnostic cosmology

38:15 It's not correct to say that the Earth is just another planet which happened to arise in the galactic arms due to perpetual conditions of materialization and dematerialization of stars and planets. It's not correct to say that, because the Gnostics said... And this is probably the most famous line you can quote from the Gnostic materials it's from the Gospel of Philip and it's one single line, and it says the world system you inhabit came about due to an anomaly. Now some scholars translate that last word as a mistake The world system that human beings inhabit came about due to a mistake Due to an anomaly or something that was not predicted to happen

39:07 and the actual Greek word in the text is anomou, A-N-A-M-O-U. So I prefer the word anomaly to mistake because mistake sort of has a judgment attached to it. It wasn't a mistake but the planet Earth arose in a very bizarre manner. Normally planets arise as I say by natural process of accretion of matter in the galactic limbs and even science will explain this to you if you want to go investigate But the Gnostic myth says that the origin of the planet Earth was special, it was an anomaly. And the anomaly was due to the fact that the Aeon Sophia – remember she was one of the designers of the human genome – became so fascinated with how this species would develop she became so identified with her creation and with its evolution

40:05 that she did something that aeons do not normally do. She left the galactic core, she plunged from the galactic core and she passed out into the region of the galactic arms and she became involved in the laws of materialization gravity electromagnetism and so forth that work in the galactic arms and as result of her fall this is called The Fall Of Sophia or The Fall Of The Wisdom Goddess She herself, the galactic divinity of the core turned into the planet Earth. So what the Gnostics teach us is that we are living on a planet which is an habitat of nature consisting of oceans mountains the sky rivers The material body of the earth and all of that it's actually the materialization Of a divinity or goddess from the galactic core Mm-hmm

41:12 So that very goddess who designed us is present right now in this planet. Is present to us, we can reach her, we can contact her, we know that she is present and we can communicate and interact with her And this is an extraordinary situation You must try to get your mind around the huge proposition That there are many other planetary laboratories In which this is not the case So, the world system that we inhabit came about due to an anomaly. So that is the Gnostic explanation of the creation of the Earth. The creation of humanity? The creation of the Earth! Now finally, to round off the cosmological background, we come to even more bizarre phenomenon which is called in Gnostic teachings, the generation of the Archons

42:11 Now, as you probably know but others listening may not know I introduced the word Archons into the discourse on this planet about 12 years ago. Okay? And since then it's been taken up by many many people and i'd like to say that it is extremely important to me as a person who introduced it that people recognize two things First of all, when I introduced it, I spoke of it in the way that Gnostics taught. I didn't speculate, I didn't make up my own ideas about ETs, I didn't use the Sitchin hypothesis, I didn't talk about ETs engineering the human genome – that is not true! ETs did not engineer the human genome. The aeons at the core of the galaxy are our true cosmic parents

43:11 What I did was, I followed the Gnostic intel and reported on the Archons according to the Gnostic intel. And the second thing that I did which unfortunately many people disregard is that I stressed that the Gnostics taught that the Archons or extraterrestrial parasites that prey upon humanity came about as a result of Sophia's action that she accidentally produced these archons. And I can't think of anyone who uses the word archon today, who includes that important piece of information which is very unfortunate. Right you need that whole context to really understand what the Archons are how they came to being and there's also an element in terms of our solar systems composition

44:09 where that involves the Archons. Maybe you could discuss that a little bit? Sure, let's make that the last piece of the cosmological picture we're setting here which is the framework for the rest of our discussion okay again you really need to use your imagination you need to think logically take in this story this is a complex scenario this is not a simple myth it's just a complex myth but the beauty of it Once you get into it, I think is just indisputable. The beauty and the coherence of it are tremendous and once you get the picture operating in your mind... ...and you can see it, you realize that there are many things that we are told by science that verify it so it's a verifiable myth It is not something to be taken on faith What the Gnostics said was that when

45:06 that you should, I say that you should envision the fall of Sofia as a massive spike of pure stellar plasma from the galactic core. As a matter fact about 15 years ago astrophysicists discovered traces such a spike They discovered that there is a trail or path leading directly, a tunnel leading directly from the core of our galaxy to the area of the third arm where the solar system is located. So they in fact found evidence, smoking gun, of what the Gnostics said about Sophia's plunge

45:47 There was a massive discharge of plasma from the galactic core. This is an anomaly, it doesn't happen all the time and at the end of that discharge, at the very end of it where terminated eventually the planet Earth arose as the materialization of the body of the goddess but there was a secondary effect of that event because it is not normally the case for plasma of the galactic core to discharge into the galactic arms, the discharge fall of Sophia in mythological terms created an extraordinary impact in the area of material and elementary substance of the third galactic arm. You could imagine it this way... Imagine a stream of foam

46:48 like you have in a fire extinguisher. Imagine the stream of foam being shot out of a high tension hose and imagine that this stream of foam was shot out straight down, say into a flat area that consisted of sand well that stream of foam would obviously cause an enormous disturbance in the sand And as the foam dried and crystallized it would take up parts, particles of the sand in it and it would form that sand into erratic patterns that the sand would not otherwise take had it not been subjected to this torrent of foam. That's one of the analogies you could use to picture this event and so the first thing that happened as a result of the plasmic discharge from the galactic core was that

47:44 It produced this bizarre species. It produced these insect-like cyborgs called Archons Now, if you want to go and understand this phenomenon You have to investigate what is called the Akari Insects A C A R I or specifically the abiogenesis of the Akari insects. This is an experiment that was done around 1830 by a man named Andrew Cross and in this experiment which is widely documented in scientific literature, you can find it on the internet, Andrew Cross C-R-O S-S-E Akari Insects he produced

48:31 tiny insects like mites by the generation of a Electromagnetic field Wow this is a fact and I didn't know this fact when I first reconstructed the Gnostic myth, and when I told the story that I just described of the generation of the archons And I remember very clearly When I was putting that together for not in his image. I thought oh Oh shit, you know this is the part of the mythology that people aren't gonna buy. You know nobody's gonna buy right the you know their statement that Insect-like creatures which is what they are cons are there inorganic? Cyborgs could spontaneously appear an outer space because of the mysterious impact of some plasmic discharge and then but I wrote it anyway because I

49:28 I trusted the Gnostic material and then some years later, well sure enough. I got confirmation that this is possible in this amazing phenomenon so Yeah, well I just wanted to say another reason. I think that is so fascinating because we've been talking a little bit about spider beings lately and how at Bohemian Grove in front of the gate it says weaving spiders come not here and In this context it starts to make me think of like secret electromagnetic sciences Maybe they spawn some type of spider-like creatures maybe that's a direct

50:03 cryptic message to archons did not come there. It's very odd but that phrase weaving spiders come out here is starting to make a little more sense as more things unravel yeah it's a mysterious phrase isn't it I'm not quite sure what they mean by that but anyway, to cut to the chase and you conclude this background part of our discussion its important to know that The people who provided us today with the intel on the Archons and they profiled their behavior brilliantly. They described how they abduct souls by night, which you would call ET abductions. Right. They described their appearance as being of a neonate form that is to say prematurely born fetus with a large head and big eyes and spindly limbs all of this they described

50:59 Well, have some respect folks because the people who gave you that intel on the Archons also told you where the Archons originated. So don't ignore that part of the intel! They originated in the solar system before the Earth was created, before Sophia herself turned into the Earth and they were given the task by Sophia and given the power to organize material and elementary substance into their own habitat. So they created the solar system independent of the Earth, Sun & Moon And that solar system that they created, that belongs to the Archons is the inorganic part of our solar system That is to say, the inorganic planets Mercury, Venus Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

51:51 are productions of the archons and they are the habitat of the archons. The archons primarily live, as far I can tell in the rings and moons of Saturn but they're able to travel through the solar system and they're able to impinge upon the earth although they cannot invade the earth because they cannot live on planet Earth because oxygen is toxic to them And they are an inorganic species that mainly attacks humanity through telepathic means and through implanting deviant ideas in the human mind.

52:28 So this is the Gnostic message about the Archons that were created accidentally by our own planetary mother, Sophia. Yeah I know that there's so much more depth to it but i really do appreciate that background context and um...so how do we bridge this story? The creation of the earth and humanity. How do we bridge that with the things going down in ancient Babylon, you know the creation of the first three major religions? Basically this round of recorded history for us. Right well I find that a way to get your mind one way... To get your mind- The best way i would say is to get your mind around the whole picture bringing us down to the situation today Is to use a metaphor

53:21 and that is the Divine Experiment. So let's say, that humanity on Earth, humanity on this planet is the expression of a divine experiment What is the experiment? Well, the experiment is simply the process by which humanity would unfold the skills and talents that were given to it by its designers So we were designed with certain capacities, mental capacities to calculate, to measure, to develop symbolic codes. To speak many languages... We have the talents, aesthetic talents

54:05 musical talents, we have talents for social organization. These talents distinguish human animals from other animals on the planet and as the subject of The Divine Experiment We are here to see how we can develop and unfold these talents in a way that is beautiful and harmonious with the cosmic order. That is the purpose of the experiment, but obviously there's something wrong with the experiment because human beings are extremely destructive toward each other toward their environment and so the question is what has gone wrong with the divine experiment that was originally intended by those aeons those gods and goddesses of the galactic center? Well

54:58 There are two answers to the question of what has gone wrong. Part of what is going on comes from the Archons and their meddling with the experiment. You see, according The Gnostic cosmology, which we just went through in 45 minutes. That wasn't too bad was it? No not at all! According to them I can make a statement to you which i believe will eventually be confirmed by science and is...and science is in fact on the verge of confirming this statement. The Gnostics claimed that the planet Earth was formed anomalously as I said and that it does not properly belong to the solar system

55:41 They claim that the planet Earth is a living entity, a living superorganism captured in an inorganic system. The Earth is captured in the solar system and the solar system at large is an inorganic system it consists of inorganic planets which are the habitat of the archons so this this is a remarkable statement but this presents a problem Because the Archons are not, they are very intrusive. It is said in one of the cosmological texts I think it's called The Reality of the Archons is the title of it that they do not observe the boundaries of the place where they were put so if they had observed their boundaries They would simply inhabit the solar system They would be creatures living out there They might occasionally you know be detected

56:40 by human beings with paranormal faculties, but they wouldn't meddle with us. But the point is that they meddle and they mess an intrude with a human experiment. And they do that primarily through entering our minds and through putting foreign implants in our minds So if you want to understand the role of the archons and the way that they cause problems for humanity, you have to be able to take on board the concept of what Carlos Castaneda called a foreign installation. There is a foreign installation in the human mind

57:21 due to the Archons. Now one thing I think is interesting, and I just wanted to mention about you're talking about the Sophia becoming the Earth right and being in an inorganic solar system there's also an emphasis on the idea of the Sun Moon Earth system that that is like a three-part system almost like clockwork I think that's really interesting because when we talk about the Elite, they obviously have synchronization to their events. Their false flags, they have codes in their dates and a lot of people lately have been speculating here about why our calendar was reset at year one and i'm just curious if maybe this is an Archon plan to kind of get us out of sync with what could be an amazing experience if we took the clues from The Sun and The Equinox

58:11 as markers for how we should be acting or when we should be acting. Well yeah, the natural opportunity for the human animal living on the planet is to synchronize itself with the life rhythms that support our life here, the living rhythms the organic rhythms which are called bio-rhythms. Now it's known and this is not speculation that the bio-rhythms are of three kinds there is a telluric bio-rhythm associated with motion of the earth like the daily rotation of the earth

58:46 There are the lunar biorhythms, with 28 day cycle of the Moon and the four phases of the Moon. And there are the solar biorhythms which are the four seasons of the year and a larger rhythm such as sunspot cycles and so on... If we were to observe these rhythms feel them respond to them and organize our society according to them then we would live harmoniously in the three-body system We are intended by the design of Sophia to live in a three-body system. We could live, for instance, in a planetary system that consisted only of a star, the sun, a satellite to the earth, the moon and the earth! That is how we were divinely designed to live but that three body system is captured in the inorganic

59:44 system of the archons. So we have two systems operating at once on us and the tendency of the evil-minded people, of the planet is to use the Archontic mindset To take us away from the natural system and put us in an artificial system The Matrix so when the Illuminati used these dates in these codes They are not really operating or carrying out their nefarious and evil plans.

1:00:22 according to the natural rhythms, but they are doing so according to an archontic system of mind control. That archontic system of mind control which is called predictive programming and other things like that you know what I'm talking about revelation of the method yeah that would not even work upon us if we lived in constant interaction with the solar, lunar and terrestrial cycles. Now of course many indigenous people did so live in that way didn't they? Absolutely! Before we entered the industrial age and even well into the industrial age indigenous peoples such as the Inuit used to be called Eskimos, the Inuit of Iceland or the Aborigines of Australia

1:01:13 or the natives of South America, or the Native Americans of North America. You name them they all lived in close and intimate harmony with those three biorhythms Now it's no accident that in order for the archontic powers and those who serve the archonitc powers to prevail in this world They have to destroy all indigenous people and they've done a pretty good job of it. There's very few left, right? Right you say what why do they target indigenous people Why do they target pagans who live in harmony with the earth because that is the greatest threat to them Because if your connection to the earth and the life cycles of the Earth is strong enough You cannot be deviated or influenced by the archons or their human

1:02:07 counterparts. Wow, so like the institution of the Gregorian calendar or getting people in the nine to five five day work week all those things you could say are them putting energy into disrupting our natural rhythm or keeping us from getting in that harmonious synchronization maybe? Yeah we are designed to live in symbiosis That is our design. We are designed to live, symbiosis means in unity and biosis means life we're designed to live in unity with the larger patterns of life around us The whole direction of the archontic takeover of the human mind Is toward a matrix They really are the creators of the matrix which is a mind control system

1:02:59 that is artificially constructed. And they began, one of the tools of that mind control is the calendar to live according to the calendar of the civic calendar you work on these days, you have holidays on these days That whole system of calendrical order Is a terrible weapon against the natural way of life on this planet Wow, that is deep. I like hearing about that In fact patriarchy used the calendar from the beginning in order to take people out of nature It's a long story several people have dedicated their lives to studying that event So let's see what are your questions and concerns about bringing this Gnostic Intel into relevance in the world today

1:03:51 Well, I've heard you describe the Lord Archon or I assume one of the higher archons as Jehovah and also there's the saga. I guess this starts with the Zadokim right now Did did Jehovah make contact with the Zadokim? Is that how you would describe that? Right it appears that The Gnostics warned us about something that happened in Not too long ago, I think you could say it happened maybe around the time of the historical Abraham. The patriarch Abraham if you consider him to have been an historical entity then you would place him around 1800 BC okay? Perfect! Right at that time the Archons achieved a great breakthrough into the human mind

1:04:44 Now I want to warn people that, I know there are many people out there who have read the works of Zachariah Sitchin and more recent followers of the Sitchin story such as Michael Tellinger and so forth. And a great many other people probably including David Eick and others who claim that these archons cracked into the human genome and they hijacked, in some manner the human genome. According to the Gnostic Intel they did not succeed in cracking into the human genome but they did achieve a neural hack Can you see the difference? Absolutely! Right They didn't biologically crack into the genome because remember who designed the genome The genome was divinely designed in the galactic core

1:05:39 by these cosmic artists and scientists, and they sealed the genome very very carefully against intrusion. However around 1800 BC it appears that the overlord, the Archons may be considered as a hive species and most of them are drones. The drones are the Whitley Schreiber gray alien type which is called a neonate because it resembles a prematurely born fetus. But there are Archon overlords or in particular one master of the hive, which is described as Drakona, D-R-A K-O-N-A in the Greek Coptic text that is to say as a draconic or reptilian form

1:06:35 So there is a reptilian overlord and then there are the Archon drones. This is how you visualize them based on the Gnostic Intel, they gave us this intel 1600 years ago and it had all...and they had already been developing in this intel for many many millennia so they had the scoop on the Archons and on ETs before anyone else on the planet So I say respect them for what they knew and follow their material consistently. This is what they said, they said that... They warned us! This warning however is not contained in the surviving Gnostic materials but it's contained in the arguments of the Church Fathers against the Gnostics But it is written very explicitly In the works of Irenaeus called Against Heresies

1:07:34 In that book, in that volume Book 1 Chapter 4 it says that the Lord Archon which the Gnostics called El Dabayat strange word managed to get access to the mind of a certain part of human species The ancient Hebrews and they infected the mind of the Hebrews with an alien virus or an alien mindset and that they chose the Hebrews to be their representatives, and therefore to wage war upon the rest of the human species by using the ancient Hebrews as their instruments of intrusion into our species. And the way that they did that... The Gnostics warned us about this! This is quite explicit. They way that they did that is

1:08:36 installed an implant in the brain, they made a neural hack into the brains of that particular tribe of people. And as a result of that hack there arose within the ancient Hebrews at the time of Abraham a cult, a sect it didn't involve all of the people of the Hebrew or Jewish racial lineage but a certain fraction of them formed a cult and they were called the Zadikim. That comes from the Hebrew letter zadik or tsaddik which is a letter in the Hebrew alphabet, and the word zadik means the righteous or the superior or the supreme so

1:09:26 So, this cult historically speaking arose around 1800 BC and this cult is the germ of salvationist and messianic religion. And it developed first in Judaism then it spread into Christianity then it spread into Islam so all three of the Abrahamic religions derived from the same source and that source is an extraterrestrial implant in the human mind. Now this sounds kind of like a science fiction scenario, and yet it is an exact paraphrase of what the Gnostics taught So they experiment with the Anthropos Let's say I'll put it in another way our ability as human animals to

1:10:19 to just live in peace together on this planet, to coexist with each other and to investigate the natural world and to discover and unfold our true potential as creations of Sophia is interfered with. We are not allowed to do it because there is a foreign influence working among us And that foreign influence takes the form religion of a religious ideology of salvation, the chosen people, the Messiah and end-of-the world scenario. Those ideas which are widespread in human culture as you know do not even belong in the human mind they are not a product of human mentality even though they have been

1:11:14 received and developed and transmitted by the human mind. They do not originate in the human mind, they originate as an alien transplant in our minds, an alien virus this is what the Gnostics taught. Yeah I find this part fascinating because I just think that the three major religions of course are responsible for more death division than anything on the planet. It's like this arconic manifestation that is the Abrahamic religions. It's like this virus got a software program that had a few major updates and- That's right The way I've heard you describe it as first, of course we have these Hebrews and they've been manipulated into thinking they're chosen people which separates them from the rest of humanity. That was like a closed group so it didn't spread very far because they are not out there trying to make converts They have specific numbers They don't evangelize Right But then

1:12:22 Through St. Paul, and I describe this specifically how this happened in the first six chapters of my book not in his image through St. Paul the iconic virus that had been incubating in the ancient Hebrews in the Zadokim sect went pandemic in Christianity So it mutated, it rebooted itself in a pandemic form in Christianity and then it rebooted itself again in an even more vicious form in Islam. So all three of those religions are expressions of this virus there is actually an alien virus infecting the human brain on this planet

1:13:09 the insanity of religion has been spread across the pages of history. As you said, and it's obvious when you say it these three religions have produced more destruction more murder, more division and violence than anything else in the world. And that is because they do not belong in this world They do not belong here You know one of the most difficult things I think perhaps the most difficult block that people face in getting the benefit of this Gnostic material, which by the way is tremendously liberating.

1:13:51 We are used to thinking that those religions and the concepts in those religions, you know. The concept of the chosen people of the Messiah Of God's plan by which humanity will be tested and then rewarded or punished You know we are so accustomed To those notions That we think...we assume that human beings produce them and they must be the product of our own minds. But they're not, they're not! And when you begin to consider that they are NOT the product of our own minds THAT is an incredible awakening

1:14:33 It is. It's been a really fascinating time, John I know a lot of researchers are kind of using these terms and using the cliff notes to this worldview but you never really get the details from them so i think it's fascinating that you've done that for us. It's really nice to hear glad we could do this! Do you want to remind people about your website and books or anything else you got going on yourself before I let you go? No, they can just go look at MetaHistory.org. Okay perfect! Metahistory.org very cool thanks again take care Thank you Greg There we have it Ironside Chatters Wow so I thought that was an interesting show

1:15:15 It is important to understand the Sophia myth to get the Archon context, which I appreciate. Plasms deployed like spores is a fascinating thread too because it jives with Terrence McKenna's stoned ape theory kinda... And today's show even touches on the Electric Universe a bit towards the beginning which makes sense to me! I mean, I get shocked more often than I get the hiccups. Electricity is a much bigger part of the universe than they let us know about and I'm inclined to believe And in the plus show we talked about John's thoughts on the connection and communication between the Archons and the top elite, how it has affected the Rothschilds and the mindset of other early banking families and early Hebrew founders. We talked about part of this story that the Archon live in the other planets in the solar system particularly Saturn and why we see so much symbolism for the other planets possibly because of the Archon influence

1:16:06 Another part I liked was getting into the fact that we don't claim the symbol-making power of our own minds, so we have it used against us constantly. And then John talks about master race theory originating with the Hebrews and that one of the biggest things we need to do today is dismantle the Holocaust lie... While i'm open to a lot of this, It got pretty racy with the topics of anti white propaganda and white genocide and John's disagreement with my preconceived notion that white people have it easier or better in the world than other races. And so I don't want to summarize too much and i don't want to use this privileged post-show position to argue against specific things that John said, or pick apart a guy who's not here—that ain't right! But I would say that it's the biggest THC on air disagreement since Jon Irvin but

1:16:55 But this was way more civil. And what I would address is how recently, I'm getting a lot of emails that are assuming I take the positions of everything that my guests say and that's just not true. I did a show with Eric Dubay about the earth being flat. I don't think it's true but I thought he made enough interesting points to do a show about it. Also last week Anthony Patch, I loved that episode but on top of being an interesting researcher into a lot of topics I do love, He's also born-again Christian definitely not something I agree with and was probably more obvious today. But usually I'm trying to give you a fairly untainted expose on certain researchers and topics of conspiracy culture,

1:17:33 a totally neutral host. I definitely speak up once in awhile and use the post-show as a platform for doing that and talking to you guys rather than taking up the guest time during the interview, And i think my level of enthusiasm from show to show can sometimes be an indicator of things that resonate with me versus things that don't or maybe you hear me change the conversation from a new age topic to something more practical So I'm not neutral, but I guess I'm open-minded and don't feel the need to cut off guests that are going in a different direction than I don't agree with. I mean, I researched these people pretty thoroughly before I interviewed them. I know the places they might go even if they're not planned and today kinda was that

1:18:14 John Lash gives a great breakdown of the Sophia myth, a great context for the Archon meme and I think... A perspective on the three major religions that i would agree with. These religions aren't worshipping the one true god creator of man in the universe It's much more likely to me that if there is a supernatural spiritual entity at the heart of religion it's a super successful demonic parasitic entity that has wielded so much influence through the religion program as to play humanity like a fiddle for most of history and still today, although I think that influence is on the decline. All of this stuff is great, and that's what I wanted to hear from John. And he did an awesome job bringing it all to the table! I thank him very much for that. But that there's a campaign against white culture large enough to be worried about or to use the term white genocide or allude to the fact that white privilege is just propaganda and we don't really have it better...I dunno

1:19:08 That's not something I can agree with at this point in my life. And maybe it's something we'll do a more full show on because I don't understand the position entirely, but I think the scales are tilted in favor of whites so much that its pretty insulting to suggest we're being victimized in any way that is proportionate with other cultures. I think things I'm saying are obvious and I'm surprised there even IS opposition And again, it's not fair to pick apart specifics but listening back and editing when I said that it seemed obvious to me that black and brown people had a disadvantage John disagreed a little bit and said well who do you know before we got on to A Different Angle? And I went-and I kind of was thinking about that in editing. Yeah! Who DO I know?! And I had to think about that to back up in my own mind

1:19:57 this position I'm taking and i've seen it plenty of times but the first time I ever realized what could be doesn't always have to be, but what could be the difference for someone not white in America at least was in my little catholic grade school and Arnold Missouri. Of course it was ninety five percent white but as far as I knew it hadn't been a problem for my one friend who is adopted from Columbia and clearly looked a little different. But then this friend, Tom he left, he went to another school for a couple of years and then he came back and he was ripped! We were young we were like in seventh grade

1:20:33 And I'm just like, wow look at this man amongst all us boys. I didn't even know we could get muscles yet! I'm 30 years old now and i'm still trying to figure that out but...I asked him what the hell happened? He said well kids at this new school they called me names they called me nigger they pushed me around a lot it was pretty isolating so I started to work out to defend myself And I was just kind of shocked. I was like, whoa that is not something i had really considered and that's not something i'm ever really gonna have to deal with and that's one of just like two dozen stories everybody probably has them that one sticks out in my mind the most because i was just so oblivious

1:21:13 And maybe I'm missing the point of a larger argument here. Maybe as the elite work the races with constant tension and an ebb and flow, maybe there are some changes happening but...I see things going on in Baltimore and Ferguson as totally natural backlash to years of isolated unfairness And I hope these things don't descend into general race riots framed as black vs white rather than oppressed vs oppressor. But how long does the rest of America expect these communities to accept being broken down and treated unfairly? When are we guilty by association, never?!

1:21:49 I mean, it's just a little bit selfish to draw attention to one or two people who might get caught in those crosshairs instead of talking about the multi-generational systematic limiting of options for entire groups of people. I mean neither is good! I don't want violence in any regard But let's be honest about the situation. If we need to expand our thoughts globally instead of just America, when I look at the areas where white people are from or have taken over... America, the UK, Great Britain, Sweden Norway Canada even Australia all predominantly white nations

1:22:25 all the top of the food chain, and all the places where black and brown people are from. Mexico Africa Cambodia Puerto Rico Afghanistan Latin America Ethiopia I mean so many places that are suffering it seems fairly obvious to me that the scales have been tipped in favor of white people whether you're in America or around the globe but I also think there's a difference between taking advantage or taking an opportunity and abusing power. I've had advantages to being white, but i haven't abused power-I have no power to abuse." So when that fraction of the elite creates campaigns to widen the scope of who's guilty for this unfairness so that they can hide within a larger group be it the Jews or all Caucasians

1:23:14 I hope everyone keeps the proverbial target on power, not race or culture. Just power and from that an equilibrium will form. And even though i've been born into a pocket of time and space where it's good to be white It is also not sustainable to have such inequality. And I want a world that works towards utopia Get there or not, whatever. But I want us to be at least working towards it and you can't do that when large pockets of people are marginalized That's a powder keg waiting to go off So i don't know when i did the episode with professor griff i made A couple comments about It being embarrassing To Be White And i got a lot Of backlash from that like and i thought that was a little off-putting and maybe ill get even more for this

1:24:01 But it's not fair to have an unequal system and talk about it as if everyone is equal. But don't think about that too much though, because on the individual level on one hand you are a minority person in a rough spot You could use this current inequality situation to be your excuse for not making anything of yourself or your excuse to be the most ripped 7th grader in Arnold It cuts both ways. And in today's world where most businesses are started online, who cares what color you are? If you got 150 bucks and an idea, you can get online and start something up without anybody knowing anything about you so maybe focus on that