Jim Fetzer | The Moon Landing Hoax, The Holocaust, & Jade Helm

00:04 In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed a nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that our society would recover from its troubled times but we're far from 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration We offer a fresh conversation! I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats Happy days are here again, higher side chatters. Welcome to the Ride of Rides! Drinking a little drink, smoking a little smoke and trying to stay sane in an insane world. From sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood And today i got a guest whose work I've been reading online for quite some time his name's Jim Fetzer. I think he does a lot of great evidence-based research and today we're slaying a lot of the propaganda dragons of the past and discussing the Jade Helm operation which really does have me a little bit concerned

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02:46 I'm also very interested in history, weird history. And I'd love to hear a discussion about what Jack Parsons was really up to in Pasadena in the 1940s and the occult strangeness that led to the founding of the Jet Propulsion Lab and US Rocket Program. So once again thank you so much everyone! Thank you Greg for having the courage to quit your 9-5 to make this program happen and reach out to so many people. I am thrilled to be apart of it. Take care everyone thanks again have a great day Alright guys, we are no stranger to the idea that many of the biggest events in world history and modern times are not just random occurrences. And in many cases the stories as we know them to be have been heavily manipulated to make the masses think in a desired way. Well today were going to examine several these stories and how they're probably closer to carefully crafted illusions from the shadowy puppet masters or The Power Pyramid and their same old playbook than they

03:42 events as we're told. With me to do that is Jim Fetzer, a guy who's been throwing stones at the glass house of the New World Order for quite some time. Jim is a former Marine Corps officer, a researcher who has lectured at universities and has authored many great pieces on the foundations of scientific knowledge cognitive science and many more since the mid-1990s he has been focused on tearing down the veil manipulation installed by the nefarious elite and restoring truth to the world where he's been on quite a roll. Most recently, he has been working on series of books comprised articles and exposés by some todays leading voices in the conspiratorial community The one which we're focused on today is called And I Suppose We Didn't Go to the Moon Either The Beatles, The Holocaust and Other Mass Illusions Well that probably wins provocative title award for me Jim my man welcome to THC Oh great it's terrific what a wonderful introduction

04:31 Thanks man, thanks. This really is a treat we've got a lot to talk about A ton of diversity in these topics always my favorite way to do a show so I guess to kick things off tell us a little bit about how this book came to be and some of the authors involved you got some great names in here man Yeah, there are just terrific. We got 13 contributors to this book including Jay Wiedner, Nicholas Kullerstrom PhD, Yvonne Wachter, Robert Forisson PhD, Thomas Dalton Phd, anonymous scholar Mike Palachek, Jim Mars, Winston Wu James A Larson, James H Fetzer PhD yours truly Zen Gardener Sterling Harwood he has both a JD and a PHD

05:12 The series originated with a fertile mind of Mike Palachuk, Greg who had the idea of a save the world resist the empire series with four projected volumes. This turns out to be number two although originally intended to be number three after one to be entitled Nobody Died at Sandy Hook which would raise the provocative question and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either! Yeah, that makes sense. The titles kind of flow together in that way but the first one, the Sandy Hook one's not quite out yet is it? That's right, that's right. We have production difficulties but that actually turns to be a boon because given the Boston trial I've published many more articles about it we have even more powerful evidence about the fraudulent character of what happened in Boston The trial was a complete sham. I have interviewed the aunt of two brothers who were falsely accused. Now with the absurdity

06:12 confessing to a crime he didn't commit. I mean, the amount of evidence that this was a drill is simply overwhelming If anyone wants to check it out let me recommend two sources one is The Real Deal special must-see Boston bombing update on YouTube and the other's an article on my blog at jamesfetzer.blogspot.com entitled They Didn't Do It! Maret Saranova blows apart the Boston show trial. Hmm, man yeah that was definitely an interesting saga and one strange thing to me is I guess when you're making these two brothers patsies that you got the of course the Middle Eastern sentiment and you're also hitting Russian too which seems to be an element in trying to stir up some type of added controversy there

06:56 That's right. They appear to have been picked because they were Muslims, because they were associated with Chechnya so it could be used for double or triple effect to tarnish Muslims and make them out to be terrorists and also, you know try to smear Vladimir Putin at least indirectly. But in fact they have nothing to do with it their aunt, Brett who is actually a lawyer herself pointed out to me that even the footage of the young men at the Boston Marathon had been faked because they show Tamerlan, the older brother to be clean-shaven when at the time he had a beard. I asked her to prove it and she sent me photograph of him lying in bed with his cat—he had a beard. She sent me a link to them working out in a gymnasium shortly before the bombing—he

07:48 She directed me to a friend who had contacted Tamerlan that day, relieved to learn he'd been nowhere in the vicinity of the bombing. They had dinner together that night. He had a beard—there's surveillance footage showing Zoker inside the tavern. outside he has a beard even when is arrested, his arrest footage if it's not been fuzzied up. He's got a beard and of course then we get the death photograph and he still got the beard Greg plus in addition you know she see The fact that he was arrested before he was found dead

08:25 reflects how gullible is the American public because his brother allegedly ran over him with his SUV. But how could he have done that after he was arrested and in police custody? The fact is we have a witness who said she watched the police drive over him three times with a vehicle which appears to have been Tamerlan's own car. I mean, this is outrageous! Once he's arrested there's no way that the brother could have run over him and yet that's one of the claims that was made in convicting him of this crime. Third, I consulted a professor of law about the most basic evidence and he zoomed in on the backpacks it states right in the FBI's investigative report that the two backpacks that blew up were both black nylon backpacks

09:08 It even states that in the indictment for him, for the Boston show trial. But even in the footage that the government's produced neither of the backpacks that Zoker and Tamerlan are wearing is a black nylon backpack as a professor concluded. That means there wasn't even probable cause for an arrest or an indictment much less conviction at a trial Huh, man great summary there. Yeah a lot of holes in that story yeah And that's just one of many things many many flawed narratives that we get from the nefarious elite But man to talk about this book I absolutely loved it Maybe we can unpack some of these stories in there and make the case That they are in fact mass illusions some of them are little more emotionally charged than others but let's start with the moon landings its

09:52 Related to a lot of things we've been talking about on the show lately, but we haven't really dove into the evidence in all that much detail. So what are some your go-to points that showed that the moon landings were a sham? The NASA itself acknowledged on 30 August 2012 that the principal obstacle to a manned mission to Mars was overcoming Van Allen radiation, Greg. But the Van Allen radiation belt has been there since the creation of Earth about 4.5 billion years ago so if it's a problem now it was obviously a problem in the late 1960s

10:28 the astronauts' suits appear to have been costumes. They would have been incapable of protecting them from radiation exposure. We have a stunning assortment of photographs that are anomalous, frankly I believe that because of the effects of cosmic rays it would've been impossible to take any photographs on the moon anyway because they would've interrupted with photographic plates But the cameras that were purportedly used are mounted external to the astronaut's suits, and they can't even be focused or framed. And yet we have thousands of photographs each year which is perfectly focused and framed. I mean that's just incredible and completely inconsistent with a method that was purportedly used

11:11 to take them. We have lots of anomalous photographs, for example you got a moon lander where there's no blasted out crater beneath which the jets of the lander would have dislodged as it was coming down to settle. There is not even any dust on the pods of the lander. I mean, that's obvious indication of fakery we have moon rovers where there are no tracks up to the location of the rover or in front behind or in the middle clearly they were lowered into place using a crane but we have a purely quantitative argument coming from an expert by the name of Jack White who was legendary contributor to JFK research jack and I spent many years collaborating together

11:55 He took a great interest in the moon landing and has a whole archive online, Jack White's Apollo Moon Studies which I recommend anyone to track down. I use several of them in the book but what he did was just to count up the number of visits we have six different trips to the moon, the amount of time spent there and the number of photographs taken. And listen to this Gregg... The agency wants the world to believe that 5771 photographs were taken in 4834 minutes If nothing but photography had been done, such a feat is clearly impossible. Made even more so by all the documented activities of the astronauts. Imagine 1.19 photos every minute that men were on the moon! That's one picture every 50 seconds! I mean that's a purely quantitative argument Greg but it's devastating

12:48 Yeah, yeah. It's something that you wouldn't have thought of if you were on a soundstage just taking staged pictures You know? You wouldn't have thought about the duration of time but yeah that's compelling evidence Well another important consideration is of course the moon rocks, which many regard as the most powerful evidence that man went to the moon. But what they don't realize is that Wernher von Braun who was the leading rocket expert brought over with other Nazi scientists and intelligence officers and incorporated into our own intelligence apparatus had not only proposed a rocket to go to the moon, it was three times the size of the Empire State Building and he'd suggested we need several of them in order to make it feasible. But he undertook

13:35 visit to Antarctica in the local summer of 1966-67, which appears to have included gathering lunar rocks that had been dislodged from the moon's surface by the impact of asteroids and captured by Earth's gravitational field. Which meant that bonafide moon rocks could be produced but which had not reached Earth via Apollo missions Wow, so that's interesting. I also heard that astronauts had been caught giving petrified wood to other countries saying that they were moon rocks given them as gifts? Is that true? Well, that was rather embarrassing yet a piece of alleged moon rock was given to the Netherlands and wound up in a museum but turned out to be a piece of petrified wood! I think you know they just got a bit slovenly about all this

14:20 We have some studies that have been extremely revealing. I first got hooked on the moon during a visit to London in 2001 when I had given a keynote address to the British Society for the Philosophy of Science the year before, and I knew my wife would enjoy it so much that I brought her to London. And we stayed in The Morgan Hotel which backs onto The British Museum. I chose it because her maiden name was Morgan—it's on Bloomsbury Street! And when we were there, we turned on the BBC on one of the channels that was showing conspiracy theory. Did we land on the moon? I was captivated because it showed so many arguments that we had not gone to the moon which were scientifically based. My own PhD is in the history and philosophy of science

15:12 So arguments that are based upon the laws of physics, chemistry, biology and so forth have tremendous appeal to me. And this was explaining the technical and scientific reasons why our having gone to the moon was impossible in illustrating it with a whole host of examples including for example when the Moon lander takes up takes off from the surface of the moon, it appears to be being yanked upward by a cable. I mean there's just a host when you slow down for example doing the moonwalk or speed it up, the astronauts walking on the surface of the moon its obvious that this was actually footage that was taken on Earth where the gravitational attraction is six times greater than had been slowed down

15:57 to create the impression that they were only able to move very slowly, but their height would have been greater than had happened had it actually been on the moon. And it's all one more form of fakery which we have been subjected. So this Van Allen radiation belt issue... Have humans ever crossed? Will we ever be able to cross it? Well, it's unlikely and you know when you stop and think about it the way a scientific project would be conducted you would first send animals, maybe rats or monkeys or whatnot to see whether they could survive the Van Allen radiation belt. None of that was done and yet we purportedly took trip after trip after trip to the moon completely successfully with no injuries, no serious problems I mean it's just ridiculous Gus Grissom was one of the astronauts who was very concerned about the quality

16:52 project where they couldn't even manipulate the moon lander in Earth's stronger gravitational field, which would have made it that much simpler. He even hung a lemon over his desk indicating what he thought about the whole moon landing hoax He and two others were dry roasted in an Apollo capsule which had been filled with pure oxygen. It was clear it was set off deliberately to extinguish him, than any other thoughts any other astronauts might have about blowing the whistle on the program." Wow! Another interesting thing about that is that NASA says the original footage was lost you think they'd keep a keen eye on some of the first off-world footage that they've gotten?

17:33 Greg, this is absurd. I mean you're talking about what if it were authentic would be the most precious footage ever taken by the hand of man for NASA to have lost it with some seven boxes is preposterous there's no way that could happen that would be like The National Archives claiming they'd lost a copy they have as a pruder film now That copy of the Zapruder film in the National Archives is not the original out-of-camera, which we have demonstrated dozens of different ways. But the NASA footage was all fabricated and fake with modern digital technology that would've been easy to show so they simply misplaced it. It's lost seemingly forever." Right yeah it's very convenient they look at the modern tools and say well shit we can't show people this or they're going to figure it out! So just say they lost it.

18:21 And that's not even a good cover story. That's right, I'm told actually they're going through and systematically removing a lot of moon photographs for example some show shadows cast in more than one direction which would have been impossible if these were authentic because the Sun would be the only source of light and it's at such great distance The only shadows casts would be indistinguishable parallel lines but they use some sources of light that were much too close to this set And therefore you have some objects, you know being casting shadows in one direction more nearby objects casting shadows in a different direction which would be impossible. Have this been authentic? Yeah and now I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater but how much of NASA and what they've done has been a fraud can we trust them on anything if they're lying to us about something so huge

19:12 I think it's doubtful that you can trust NASA on anything. My understanding is that a clear table of organization would show NASA is actually a branch of the CIA, and you know how reliable they are in bringing us accurate information about events abroad and at home. I mean, we're in a terrible straight, I'm afraid Greg where all we can depend upon given the extent to which the major media is dominated now by propaganda made recently legal by the NDAA 2013 whereas it had been heretofore illegal for government agencies to disseminate propaganda on the American people that's now been legalized

19:54 And I'm sorry to say we're being subjected to a massive, and I don't think we can believe anything NASA ever says again. we all know our job is complete when everything the American people believe to be true is actually a lie. I like that so much, Greg, that I actually put it on the back of the book William Casey director of the CIA he was Ronald Reagan's director was reported to have told his staff our disinformation campaign will be a success when everything the American people believe is false and they seem to have done a pretty good job of it where this book explains how we know

20:36 that we did not go to the moon but faked it, that Paul McCartney died and was replaced. That we hung a double not Saddam, that Osama died in Afghanistan not Pakistan, that the Holocaust was different than historians claim whereas you observe Greg some of these are very emotional issues-the moon landing and the Holocaust no doubt being the prime examples Yeah, man. I do want to get into the Holocaust my last question about the moon landing is do you think there's any truth To the story that Stanley Kubrick was involved in helping them fake that footage Oh Jay Widener has a brilliant contribution here He's done a great deal to expose the role of Stanley Kubrick he appears to have been given funding for his magisterial 2001 A Space Odyssey

21:22 to fake the landing, which was done using a technique known as front screen projection. The chapter by Jay illustrates and explains exactly how it was done one of the signs of front screen projection is that the background is just as well defined and in focus as the foreground which is impossible with normal optical equipment. If these had been real, that would be impossible but by faking it you get precisely that result which revealed how it was done as Jay explains there's also a brilliant chapter there by a fellow named Winston Wu who has done a conspiracy trilogy talking about JFK 9-11 and the moon landing. Winston's work on the moon landing was so brilliant that I incorporated it as the longest chapter in the book where he offers 35 reasons we didn't go to the Moon, they're devastating Greg simply devastating

22:15 Yeah, that was probably my favorite moon landing portion because it's just bullet point after bullet point. 35 reasons and even if you can dismiss half of them you can't explain it all and you'd have to show that it was true footage That's right. That's exactly right and you know, even the astronauts conduct and behavior when they had their interview They didn't act excited thrilled to have been on the moon. They act she beesh They acted like they were unhappy with themselves And it was because there are playing a role that they were actors in a script one of the best films that reveals how this was done is a

22:51 classic starring James Brolin, O.J. Simpson and Elliot Gould entitled Capricorn One about faking a trip to Mars which we now know from NASA cannot be done because they can't overcome the Van Allen radiation belt but explains how using a single feed of grainy television footage from a set. They were able to fake and create the impression to the public that actually gone it's a wonderful film if you want to understand better how easily this could be brought about. You mentioned the astronauts and something else that's kind of interesting to me, and it's kind of a big theme in the conspiracy world is some people go the other direction and bring up cases of the astronauts talking about seeing UFOs or aliens on their way to the moon. Now if they didn't go, of course that didn't happen but its kinda curious that they would add that layer to the story or feed that through

23:50 Well, I gotta admit that's an aspect i have not really examined and it is intriguing but very curious. We do have reports of advanced technology whether it had alien origin as a whole other matter we have to distinguish between UFOs as unidentified flying objects specifically of alien origin, I don't have any doubt about the existence of many UFOs. We have too many encounters to deny it but they would by and large be explicable on the basis of advanced technology that we had developed some of it using Nazi scientific research. Right right

24:34 Man, it's such an interesting saga. And now let's look at the Holocaust this one obviously is a little more emotional for some people we know that there was a lot of manipulation around World War II but questioning the Holocaust can be pretty challenging for some people how did you find yourself going down this rabbit hole? Well, I had by and large taken for granted that the official narrative of the Holocaust including that six million Jews have been put to death in special gas chambers using Zyklon B was on the up and up and authentic until I was invited to participate in a conference, a couple of years ago on academic freedom or their limits to inquiry using JFK 9-11 in the Holocaust as examples. And as I began my research on the Holocaust, I discovered almost right off the bat that the figure six million

25:32 does not have historical or empirical basis but appears to be rooted in theology, in a disputed passage in Leviticus that suggests that the chosen people can return to the promised land only when they're minus six million who have been consumed in the flames. Now that requires an interpolation because there's no actual figure for six million in the original language but it turns out Greg astonishingly enough that there are no less than 236 references to six million Jews in dire straits or in fear of loss of their lives, in the international news prior to the Nuremberg Tribunal. The first as early as 1890 so you know this six million clearly isn't a matter of history it's not a matter of facts it's a matter of an article of faith

26:26 and where the best empirical data we have about the numbers comes from the International Committee of the Red Cross, which was going to the camps and keeping very meticulous records. And which updated their research in 1993 with a total for all the camps now these are gypsies Jews you know, the mentally and physically infirm. The total for all the camps was 296,081 combined decidedly less than 6 million

27:03 And in fact, it's startling but there turned out to be more Catholics than Jews died at Auschwitz for example Greg. But it is very difficult for the public to wrap its mind around the difference between the story they've been told and the facts of the matter when you conduct serious research. Wow! The fact that more Catholics died at Auschwitz than Jews I'd heard you say that in previous interviews and I read a little bit about that That is pretty shocking and kind of new to me. For people who might be skeptical of that, where does that data come from? From the Red Cross data? Yeah yeah yeah! From the International Committee on the Red Cross it's available multiple places let me recommend an especially good source as a new book entitled Breaking The Spell by Nicholas Kohlstrom

27:50 You heard me mention his name. Nick is a historian of science, he's the leading expert on the London subway bombings, the 7-7 bombings His book Terror on The Tube is now in its third edition It was Nick who broke the case wide open by discovering that the train from Luton that the young Islamic lads who were claimed to be responsible would have had to have taken to be at the tube stops in time for the explosions had been cancelled which meant they weren't even capable of being in London at the designated locations in time, where it turns out there's an absolutely brilliant one-hour study from beginning to end showing that the explosions at those specific locations and times was part of a drill being run

28:39 by an agency where you can find the study online, 7-7 Ripple Effect by Maud Dib. Now Nick has not only researched the numbers as have others but in this new book he takes advantage of a brand new source not heretofore available which are known as The British Death Books The UK had cracked the German code and of course, the Germans being extremely meticulous kept records for everything. They learned about the numbers of deaths at different camps which corroborate figures from the International Committee on the Red Cross so that they were the best possible source for

29:25 Recent data and research is in Nick's book, Breaking the Spell. Where he of course is also a contributor. In fact, Nick has such broad interest he contributed to each chapter of the four parts of the book. One of the most striking Greg by the way let me hasten to add is this It turns out that it's a law of biochemistry, that bodies die from cyanide poisoning of which Zyklon B is a mild form turn pink and that the walls of chambers where Zyklon B is used as a law of material science turned blue. But we have no reports of pink bodies, and the only chambers that turn blue were those that were used for de-lousing, where copious quantities of Zyklon B was being used to kill body lice and disinfect clothing because it was a terrible problem in the camps

30:22 So it was a hygienic or sanitation measure to use vast quantities of Zyklon B, not to kill the inmates but they keep them alive. In fact these camps were labor camps they weren't centers for extermination A contributing factor to understanding is that I published a map of Auschwitz in the book where it shows all sorts of facilities in the camp that are inconsistent with the idea of this having been a center for extermination, including a hospital with OBYGYN facilities. A symphony hall for the orchestra to play and woodworking shop furniture and artifacts to be made. Greg believe or not they even had a brothel

31:05 Yeah, on the back of the book one of the first things I saw was that you have a picture that's labeled The British Soccer Team at Auschwitz and that kind of shocked me a bit. That's kinda interesting that they would have all those different things there so these camps even it work camps its kinda shocking that they would have things like a soccer team in an opera house It seems very odd Well, they had inmates and they were keeping them healthy They were trying to keep them well You can't get work out of a corpse And when I discovered that photograph of the British football team at Auschwitz in Nick's book, I thought it was too good. It has so much emotional impact! Look how fit those guys are and how cheerful they are—it is hard to believe. So for precisely that effect, namely to bring out the impact between reality and mythology, I published it there with a caption what? You didn't know there was a UK soccer team at Auschwitz?!

32:01 Yeah, it's definitely way different than the official narrative but even work camps I mean even that's pretty bad. You know if we were rounded up and taken to a work camp against our will I mean that's pretty shitty It's not being killed but it's not far off Greg, I hate to tell you we got over 300 FEMA camps distributed all over the country. Private prisons has become a major industry this Jade Helm thing looks as though it's the tip of the iceberg that they're going to be extracting American citizens are going to be running them through these Wal-Marts that have been closed to service command and control centers, and processing locations for detainees. They're putting up fences eight- nine foot hall fences around them they are tearing up the floors remodeling them inside we have reports from a contractor who said it appeared to him they were constructing a prison inside of Walmart I've always wondered why there was such enormous

32:54 facilities. He said there were even four guard towers, they've taken the doors to a Walmart in Florida and replaced them with blast-resistant doors that run 100 to 200 thousand. I mean this is not merely a drill it's a major threat to American freedom and democracy Henry Kissinger was once asked how he intended to get Americans into those FEMA camps and he gave a one word answer food I'm terribly worried that this drought in California, which has been one of America's great agricultural centers is being deliberately manufactured to reduce the availability of food. And that in fact those FEMA camps are going to be used for a whole lot of Americans. Greg, I hate to even talk about this but it's stunning

33:39 i've done many programs about it on the real deal which is now a video show since january of this year seventy-two shows so far and half a dozen on jade hell americans need our understand what's going on here believe it or not sam walton was an army intelligence officer in world war two and he ran internment camps Yeah, Jade Helm definitely has me concerned. I got a decent amount of questions for you about it but i wanted to get a little more on the holocaust like also in world war two the US had internment work camps for the Japanese also so if we're comparing us to Nazis then both were kind of doing the same thing it seems looking at the true story would you say that?

34:22 Yes, yes. Oh yes and the American-the Allied bombing of German cities was massively destructive it interdicted the railroad line so that Germans were unable to resupply the camps although the claim is this was Hitler's policy it came as news his own highest ranking officials during the Nuremberg Tribunal who had no idea there was such a program to exterminate the Jews for the reason that there wasn't such a program. They brought in a Hollywood director who shot a stunning amount of footage and then edited it very carefully, to use a tiny percentage for presentation

34:59 during the Nuremberg tribunals. But what the Allies were doing was a form of collective punishment that is now recognized as a war crime, according to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 for example you cannot punish anyone for a crime they did not personally commit So that the Allied bombings was such an example, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was another example. Even our no-fly zone over Iraq which led to the death of 500,000 Iraqi infants was another illustration as is our present sanctions on Iran

35:35 Greg, I don't know if you're aware but our own intelligence agencies all 16 converged in the conclusion that Iran was not pursuing nuclear weapons in 2007. A conclusion they reaffirmed in 2011 where even the Mossad reported to the Israeli government in 2012 that Iran was not pursuing nuclear weapons three weeks before Benjamin Netanyahu went to the United Nations and declared precisely the opposite I'm very glad to see Barack Obama moving forward with a P5-plus-1 resolution that may lead to, you know, weakening or removing these sanctions because frankly they're totally unjustified and actually under the Geneva Conventions constitute a war crime by the American people.

36:21 Oh yeah, and I was just listening to another journalist, Abby Martin talking about estimates as high as 2 million Iraqis died since we invaded Iraq. And I just read Israel is responsible for at least a million Palestinian deaths in the last 5 years so... We think of Auschwitz as the worst thing ever and it's obviously not good but we're talking about an official number of like 300,000 deaths. And were told to never let history repeat this is the worst thing ever but we have two situations going on right now that are way worse than again The American-Israeli partnership is responsible for a whole helluva lot of it

36:57 Oh yeah, that was just a number who died in the concentration camps which were labor camps and not exterminations. Millions died in World War II there's no doubt about it especially on the Russian front you know maybe even tens of millions. It was a ghastly event without any question whatsoever but what has to be understood is the allies were committing many war crimes during this event, including the massive and destructive bombing of the German cities. There's a wonderful article by Robert Faurisson in the book about all of this which is illustrated with photographs displaying the extent of the destruction and Thomas Dalton

37:38 PhD who has a classic book on the Holocaust entitled Debating the Holocaust, which is about to appear in a new edition. Also has a wonderful chapter there about how the numbers were fabricated to get up to these fantastic millions that died by being very sloppy counting the same names multiple times giving minor variations none of it was sworn to none of it was verified It was really an indefensible political move, but I think many were inspired to participate because they thought it would help to create a political movement that justify the founding of the nation of Israel. And indeed it did contribute there too where it has taken me quite a long time putting the pieces together to realize that the principal motivation behind the Holocaust mythology is to play upon a Western sense of guilt

38:32 responsibility for having led to the extermination or allowed the extermination of six million Jews in gas chambers and then burned to death in crematoria, uh...in order to gain political leverage for Israel and the Zionist movement which is unquestionably the effect that it has had. Yeah, you know even in high school one issue that I always had when hearing about the Holocaust was if the goal was extermination of the Jews why tattoo people right before you kill them or why transport them around Europe on trains instead of just killing him on sight it doesn't seem super efficient if you really do just want to wipe people out.

39:12 That's very observant of you, Greg. And even the leading representative of the Holocaust story, Elie Wiesel does not have a tattoo which others have suggested indicates that he is merely a faceman for the movement and was never subjected to incarceration in one of these camps Yeah, and that's another interesting point you bring up. And it also brings me to another question I have because whenever this starts to get questioned... ...I think a lot of people start to wonder well how could it-a secret this big be kept? How could there be so many people out there writing books as Holocaust survivors going around and uh.. You know talking about that side of things are they all in on this manipulation

39:58 Well, it's become an industry. The Holocaust industry has made billions and they have these museums all over the place to support this false depiction of history. It's a very powerful political movement. It uses the backbone for Zionism so when Jilad Atsman the author of The Wandering Who, who is an expert and the world's greatest tenor saxophone player came to Madison and gave a talk about Jewish identity politics meaning how much of the political movement of Israel is based upon being a Jew and having suffered

40:40 what Jews have suffered, especially during World War II. It was then when it struck me like a bolt of lightning that this had been used to play on the Western sense of guilt and gain tremendous political leverage so there are an awful lot of persons who believe they're doing the right thing by supporting the Holocaust story because it will give Israel more political leverage and they could be less concerned with whether or not it is true or false. In fact, they know that it's false and when there have been occasions to conduct trials

41:15 you could never get anyone under oath to claim they actually witnessed anyone being put to death in a gas chamber. I mean, we have quite an extensive chapter about this by Thomas Dalton himself that i think anyone reading would find extraordinarily revealing. That was another issue of mine is that If the Germans are responsible for these horrible actions against the Jews, and now the war is over and the Jews need a safe place to call their own. I've always found it curious why Israel wasn't carved out of Germany? You know why go to an unrelated Middle Eastern area and punish people who had nothing to do with it you would think that if we're going into the Nuremberg trials were putting this one specific nation on trial and considering them to be guilty

42:02 It just seems like we would have carved that out of Germany, you know what I'm saying? Well it's based on a dubious historical claim of entitlement to the lands of Judea in Palestine. Where it is ironic that recent studies of DNA of the population of Israel by Johns Hopkins University has shown that they're virtually all descendants of the Khazars from the Khazarian region of Ukraine where, in fact there's been discussion in Israel of founding a second Israel in the Crimea. Another alternative having been Patagonia in Argentina but where it's ironic that this late research on DNA reveals that the chosen people are not even genetically entitled to the promised land

42:48 Yeah, that's interesting too. I heard that before from Jim Mars when we were talking about the history and origins of banking families they're Khazarian and yet no one really knows what a Khazarian is so they've done their job there And of course Jim has an afterword to the book which is a very nice piece talking about the nature or conspiracy theories Where you know, Greg it's important to note that that phrase was introduced by the CIA as a way of stereotyping and dismissing critics of the Warren Commission. It wasn't that the critics had an alternative theory they could simply see that the government's official account that Lee Oswald him in The Lone Gunman had killed JFK and wounded Governor Connally with three lucky shots was preposterous. It was based on planted evidence fabricated photographs and a host of other

43:36 false information. He actually passed a nitrate test showing that he had not fired a rifle or a pistol, very embarrassing for the government for the facts to come out so of course they've been suppressed and they needed a way to dismiss in a single phrase anyone who is serious about exposing the lies being propagated by the government So they contrived the phrase conspiracy theorists where more accurate would be government critics And government critics may or may not have a view about what actually happened, but it's easy to demonstrate for example that the official account of 9-11 has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. So that once again they'll trot out the tried and true phrase conspiracy theorists

44:21 But as the founder of Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December 2005, where you can find our website at 911scholars.org I can assure you the proof that 9-11 did not go down as a government claims is simply overwhelming. Yeah So in World War II if it wasn't about being Jewish what was the major factor or catalyst in a person getting sent to one of these work camps? Well, Hitler wasn't happy with the Jews. There's no doubt about it. It was just he wasn't seeking to exterminate them. He would have been happy to have exported them and got them out of the country and send them to these work camps

45:04 And it was a form of slave labor, but it simply wasn't that they were quite as dire as they are described. For example we have photographs of children being liberated from Buchenwald and others being liberated from Bergen-Bergen and they all look pretty healthy and pretty fit those photographs are in Nick's book and I have several of them in this book as well And so like you said, more Catholics died at Auschwitz than Jewish people. Was it a campaign against Catholics as well? Did Hitler just hate Catholics also?

45:41 Oh, I can't answer that specific question Greg which is rather intriguing. Nick could definitely respond but there were many enemies of the state that were being treated that way and sad to say you and I for having this conversation probably qualify as enemies of the United States today things have gone so far afield that the Pentagon has recently revised their definition even about journalists to suggest that there's a phrase it can apply to them that makes them subject to incarceration or hostile treatment as well by the American military. We have descended into an unbelievable pit of lies and deceit and deception, Greg, all to benefit the political agenda of the administration in power and the forces behind it. Absolutely man

46:34 I think this is so fascinating because despite how you feel about the Holocaust, lock them up for that. But this subject, there are a lot of places on this planet where you can actually go to jail just for talking about what we're talking about right now and that's the little messed up. That makes it suspect to me. Yeah it's absolutely absurd that there should be any topic that is off limits my attitude has always been if the holocaust was real then research would support it and if it was not the world deserves to know

47:15 Well, based upon all the research I've been describing we now know that it did not happen as historians claim and the world deserves to know. Yeah So let's talk about Jade Helm a little bit because it seems like there might be some parallels to what seems to be going on would you say that's true? Yes, yes I would in fact. Because Jade Helm involves a very large assembly of equipment and military forces the apologists for Jade Helms suggest it's nothing but National Guard standard training involving some 1200 troops but there are more than 1200 military vehicles alone that have been assembled for this we have footage

47:59 coming from citizens of railroad trains with 100 cars and there are two military vehicles on each of the cars. They extend as far as the eye can see, they're the largest caravan ever seen in the history of Colorado has been passing through that state. And as a former Marine Corps officer Greg I can assure you cannot assemble a massive quantity of military equipment on this order unless you plan to deploy it The problem is maintenance. You need to lube those vehicles, you need to give them oil changes that requires getting them up on racks in garages and when they're massively assembled out in the desert and then these cases there are no garages or are no racks it's clear for immediate deployment we have documents coming down from US Army headquarters about

48:54 taking control of the human domain, about the combination of PSYOPs and special forces. There are combat troops from Iraq and Afghanistan involved in this. We have Green Berets we have Marines, we have representatives of all four of the branches. The Pentagon recently conducted a study believe it or not in 2012 as to what percentage of the different military forces could be counted on to fire upon the American people. And it turned out some 70% of the National Guard would not fire on the American people, 90% of the Marines would not

49:32 fire on the American people. Seventy five percent of the Air Force would fire on the American people, very troubling Greg all by itself. The Pentagon should be conducting any such study right just as it's very troubling that we have over 300 FEMA camps very troubling that we have a North American command very troubling that Department of Homeland Security has acquired over two billion rounds of 40 caliber hollow point ammunition, not even permissible in combat under the Hague Convention of 1899 because this is ammunition that's designed to tear apart bodies and kill people. Standard military ammunitions is pointed and copper jacketed designed to pass through a body to take a soldier out of combat not to rip his body apart. And when you combine the massiveness of this event

50:22 which is supposed to begin on 15 July and end on 15 September. You have to ask yourself what's going on? I have observed more than once that an operation that extends for over two months is not a drill, that's an occupation. Yeah you had mentioned Walmart and I'm really intrigued by this piece of the puzzle because I have had some researchers come on the show other researchers are trying to connect unrelated things and that the Walmart closures are more about manufacturing an excuse for Wall Street when they see just how bad retail numbers really are so they can push it off and say that, oh we were doing all this maintenance on stores and distract from the fact that the economy is really crashing but you're saying you've talked to people and gotten reports of some of the details on what they're really doing in these Walmart facilities. It shows that it's not just plumbing maintenance

51:12 Oh yeah, that was just a story. That was just the cover story at none of these Walmarts has any effort been made to get plumbing permits I mean it was ridiculous on its face they closed them abruptly It turns out there are long-standing agreements between FEMA and Walmart that anytime FEMA needs them. Walmarts will close and turn themselves over to FEMA, they're being reconfigured to be sources of logistic supply for the operations in the field. I mean what could be more obvious? A Walmart is a place you go to get supplies normally in the past civilian Now, in this new guy's military you need a tank? Call Walmart. You need a helicopter? Call Walmart. They're bringing tons and tons and tons of military equipment ammunition weapons and so forth through these Walmarts they are taking these massive steel shipping containers you'd normally find on a freighter at sea

52:06 which are loaded with all kinds of equipment including, I surmise, bars to construct prisons inside the Wal-Marts and they're using the containers themselves to block off access to the rear of the Wal-Marts and create what appear to be exercise areas for the detainees where they can't possibly escape unless they could scale those massive steel barriers, and of course that's not about to happen. So we have the Walmart serving multiple functions command and control logistic supply and detaining processing where they'll

52:42 figure out which FEMA camp to send you to. I have no doubt they're going to split up families and children, one place parents' husbands, one place wives another. It's all completely awful and very much on the order of what we have been told about the operation of these German work camps. And they are going put Americans who were incarcerated to work We have these private prisons in the South that have been hiring new personnel in anticipation of a rapid expansion. It cannot be a coincidence that this is taking place at the same time, that Jade Helm is gearing up to go full throttle where I must say I admire the governor of Texas whose name is Abbott

53:27 who has directed the Texas State Guard to monitor Jade Helm. A new survey in Texas shows that 55% of Texans are wary of these military operations within their state as well they should be, it augurs no good for the American people and as I may have already observed i regard this is the greatest threat to freedom and democracy in the United States that our nation has ever confronted in its history Yeah, it's definitely a scary thing. I have such a hard time kind of finding where the line is between some people's paranoia, I guess spouting off all kinds of things online you know Of course that happens and then getting the real truth here It definitely seems concerning and scary I'm curious why Walmart would do this because it's kind of PR suicide for the brand they could never really exist again after doing something like this

54:20 Well, it turns out Wal-Mart's received billions and billions of dollars in subsidy for the government that these arrangements with FEMA appear to have been in place from the beginning. In other words these Wal-Marts appear to have been designed to be dual purpose facilities civilian in normal times military in times of need determined strictly by FEMA And as I may or may not have already mentioned, Sam Walton was an Army intelligence officer in World War II and ran detention camp facilities. So he was a perfect guy to understand what might be needed if these Walmart's were to be converted in the future for precisely that function.

55:00 And I've heard that Utah and Texas, you know of course they're big in this operation. I've heard they are being targeted because they are trying to start issuing currency in gold and silver through some back channel legislation Have you heard anything about that? Well, that's extremely interesting. I know that Texas has asked for the return of a billion in gold. I guarantee you they won't get it. Germany wanted to have the return of some seven billion in gold. Germany didn't get it. I wouldn't be surprised if the vaults at Fort Knox are actually completely empty and bereft of any gold whatsoever But the fact of the matter is we have this very elaborate military operation taking place that's in violation of posse comitatus, a statute from 1878 that precludes the use of military force to perform police function. They're trying to get around it by asking permission

55:53 for various uh... communities and landowners for the right to use their property none of those permissions ought to be granted all of them ought to be rescinded in a course this is our obvious of blatant violation of the fourth amendment given that we have learned from some who have been trained in jane helen that they're objective and going home to home it's gonna be too confiscate guns and access food In other words, someone is going to be designated a food hoarder if they have more than one week's worth of supplies on hand. Now Greg why should anyone have any restriction on how much food they want to hoard? It can only be because Henry Kissinger

56:34 a position is being implemented to which they want to manipulate the American people by putting them in a state of starvation where they don't have access to food so that can be used as leverage to get them voluntarily enter these FEMA camps. If you're facing starvation, or entering a FEMA camp. Many Americans would prefer to enter a FEMA camp even if that means consigning their lives, their effort to a state of slavery I myself am unwilling to adopt that approach. I am a stand your ground kind guy and uh... i'm going to resist any effort made to deprive me have my right to keep in bare arms and the whole scenario is a travesty

57:19 It's draconian, it's Orwellian and they're using a whole series of these incidents that are fabricated. I'm talking about Sandy Hook, I'm talking about the Boston bombing, I'm talking about Ferguson Missouri, I'm talking about the Walter Scott shooting, I mean even talking about Charleston which I've just done a lengthy program last night revealing that these are all contrived one way or another. These are all staged or fabricated events Take for example Charleston, which is foremost on everyone's mind given its currency that it has just happened There was a famous photograph of this young man entering the back of the church

57:59 But it turns out he's actually wearing a $1,000 bulletproof vest which the government hasn't acknowledged. And the date and the time on that image are wrong. They're not for the day and the time. In fact, the time is like 8-830 in the morning whereas this event, this shooting took place in the evening I think they had someone involved in processing this who didn't understand a 24 hour clock And they thought if it said, you know the time read to them as though it was 817. They thought that meant p.m., when of course 0800 is a.m.. That to be p.m It would have to be twenty hundred not zero eight hundred so you know I think there were glitches here The people we're dealing with are not all rocket scientists

58:44 And, you know even Dick Gregory gave a one hour interview about Charleston where he was reflecting that he was very troubled that they didn't have our series of ambulances there immediately to take the bodies or the dead are wounded off to hospitals where they could be declared dead or alive. This is just what happened at Sandy Hook They didn't have a surge of EMTs into the building. They didn't have a series of ambulances. Officially, the bodies were all left in a heap in the classroom until they were removed in the dead of night! That's completely absurd. We'd all been troubled by indications that something was wrong at Sandy Hook—there was a sign for example that said everyone must check-in

59:24 That seemed very odd. We have video from inside the firehouse showing stacks of pizza cartons and bottled water, that seemed very odd. There were porta-potties there people had their name tags on color coded you know on lanyards that were color coded we had parents bringing children to the event This has all been most puzzling. Wolfgang Halbig, who's a former Florida state trooper and a former school principal and the nationally recognized school safety expert simply sought to find information about what had happened to Sandy Hook so he could share it with other school districts

1:00:01 when he conducted symposia on school safety. And he found that none of his FOIA requests were being answered, none of his phone calls were being returned and the next thing you knew two detectives from the homicide branch of the local police were on his doorstep in this gated community telling him that if he continued to raise questions about Sandy Hook The Connecticut State Police were going to prosecute him. Well, that was the wrong thing to say to Wolfgang! He's pursued the matter to the extent that we're now making significant legal breakthroughs about which I will describe momentarily We have in the meanwhile discovered the manual, the FEMA manual for Sandy Hook

1:00:40 where it explains right in the manual there's going to be a rehearsal on the 13th that says, write in the manual everyone must check-in. It says write in the manual refreshments and restrooms will be provided they won't let information about the porta potties as innocuous as that sound reached Wolfgang, because it would reveal they were delivered on the 13th when the shooting officially took place on the 14th. This is a huge elaborate scam. It explains why parents would be bringing children to the scene of a child-shooting massacre that was no massacre—no children died—it was an elaborate hoax, as indeed was the Boston bombing."

1:01:19 Man, yeah that's super fascinating and in terms of this most recent shooting That's kind of what I'm curious about. They also found out or seen...I've read that there was a military operation A drill conducted at the same time which is one of the go-to pieces of evidence we find whether it's 9 11 Or to Boston bombing or Sandy Hook or now Charleston There always seems to be a military exercise going on at the same time and I think that creates a lot of confusion. It also seems like what might be happening is just these, these military drills with crisis actors end up going live and they might not even know it."

1:01:55 Greg, you're absolutely right. I mean what sense would it make to have an active shooter drill going on in Charleston South Carolina and a prominent political figure like Hillary Clinton being there at the same time? What's the probability she would be campaigning with a minister who would be shot that evening during the day before the shooting and because she was coincidentally there she was able to send her personal photographer into the church today photographs that no doubt are gonna show up in subsequent campaign commercials You've got to be kidding me. It turns out that just as the Sandy Hook School was in an advanced state of decay, it was loaded with asbestos and other biohazards which led me during a visit to the Newtown school board in the company of Wolfgang Halbig to ask the school board when were the parents informed that their children were attending classes in a toxic waste dump

1:02:47 it turns out this historic school, this historic church in Charleston South Carolina is infested with termites and in serious need of repair. Well miracle upon miracle the Barack Obama administration's now fast-tracking twenty six or twenty nine million dollars to benefit the survivors but none of whom like the survivors of the sandy hook victims act like they've actually suffered a tragedy we have robbie parker whose daughter emily supposedly died the following evening he was meeting at press conference he came out of the building all jovial and joking until i saw the crowd and then he stopped hyperventilating in god into his character and didn't forget to mention that donation page for his daughter amelie and we have interviews with the children

1:03:37 of a mother who allegedly died during the shooting talking perfectly normally and tranquilly about how love is stronger than hate, and they don't show us single emotion. No anxiety no tears no grief we even had one of the mothers of a Sandy Hook victim on with anderson cooper and she not only is not in grief she's actually floating with the anderson cooper apparently not knowing his orientation but it's just astounding great how much deceit deception is taking place here are just done this very uh... now we're in twenty minute program on that charleston shooting which you can find online real deal episode number seventeen to seventy two well why charleston appears to be another stage of their

1:04:26 Man, yeah. This has been a really interesting year if you are into media analysis because this race theme that they keep throwing out there whether it's the police brutality issues which I think is a real problem or now this Charleston shooting and now this Confederate flag talk it seems like the media is doing everything they can to get the citizens of the United States divided and that seems like something you would want to do right before a really sketchy event like a Jade Helm Well, it's very interesting Greg because for example in Ferguson the body of Michael Brown was left lying in the street for four hours. Now that's obviously needlessly provocative assuming that was a real body why would you leave it lying in the sun for four hours? An ambulance should have shown up and the body taken away within 15 minutes! That's three hundred

1:05:18 three hours and forty five minutes quicker than actually happened. In fact, when they took the body up they sort of threw it in the back of a vehicle as though it were a dummy which may have been. The shooting of Walter Scott which also occurred in South Carolina is itself very puzzling where this officer fires eight shots at a black man who's running away from him purportedly hits him five times, but his body shows no reaction to the impact of any of those bullets. It looks as though that's another contrived event and because they were unable to create the cadre of anti-gun lobbyists out of Sandy Hook

1:05:57 They seem to be moving forward with different variations on the theme, where now they switch it to have a white boy shoot nine black people in an historic church. I mean the Obama administration is nothing if not imaginative about how to vary the cadence and bring about one event after another. The day of the Sandy Hook shooting, in fact the governor whose name is Malloy and his lieutenant governor held a press conference during which Malloy explained they had been spoken to that something like this might happen which led me to ponder spoken to? Something like this what could he possibly mean there are only two alternatives

1:06:39 Number one, that someone was going to come into a public school in Connecticut and shoot a bunch of children. In which case he ought to have issued an alarm to all the school districts to warn them to elevate their security level which he did not do or number two that he was told they were gonna take an abandoned school conduct a drill and make it look like a real event to promote an anti-gun agenda which is exactly what happened And when I asked by whom he had been spoken to, it turned out that none other than Attorney General Eric Holder had visited with him about three weeks prior to the event. To promote his own aggressive anti-gun control agenda where we even have footage of Eric Holder addressing a Democratic Women's Conference

1:07:23 in Washington, D.C., in 1995 already talking about having to change the attitude of Americans toward guns even if it required brainwashing them? That's not my phrase that is his. Wow! Well Jim this has been amazing I guess we'll bring it with that again I loved the book looking forward to others in this series would you like to give folks some closing info on the book and where they can get maybe where they can keep up with ya Well, you can find it at Amazon.com of course and also through CreateSpace My blog is JamesFetzer.blogspot.com You want to check out The Real Deal just go to do a search on NBC Media Broadcasting Center the real deal archives and you can find them online there are now 72 of these video shows

1:08:13 And of course, the 880 from the past can be found at radiofetzer.blogspot.com and Greg I just want to thank you for featuring me on the show. I think you do a great job and I've really very much enjoyed being on with you today. Oh thanks man! I loved it too. A conspiratorial cornucopia rapid-fire dismantling of many illusions You do great work so thanks so much for spending time with me and for doing what you do hopefully we can do it again sometime but until then keep fighting the good fight That would be my pleasure, Greg. Some might say this may be the most dangerous book in the world and they just might be right! Well said well said all right man well stay safe out there Thanks Greg Sweet baby Jesus Jim Fetzer ladies and gentlemen alright I'm glad we had a chance to talk about The Moon Landing Hoax We've been kind of brushing over it a lot lately but those details they are important

1:09:06 Also, the Holocaust and Jade Helm. Between the three of them those are probably my most requested topics right now all in one show How you like that? People always ask me what I think on these things and I just don't know! I'm pretty open I mean...I'm like 90% sure the moon landings were faked I'm about 75 percent sure the Holocaust was more about slave work than it was about genocide And i'm like 50 percent worried about Jade Helm That's where I lean today, but it does fluctuate because...I just don't know. New information is always presented and I always feel like there is this tug on my consciousness to bring me back to consensus reality and that's tough! But we do what we can In the Plus show we talked more about Jade Helm The replacement of Paul McCartney And the doubles for Saddam and Bin Laden that were used for propaganda purposes

1:09:53 Another threat I hadn't really heard all that much about. We also talked about the whispers of an economic collapse in September-October and how Obama seems to be making a play to extend his reign It seems like the kind of thing that just can't happen in today's world, but a guy like Jim makes me less sure of anything I mean look at Greece. Who knows what's going to happen this week, but they can't make their 1 and a half billion dollar payment to the IMF now that we've locked up the banks ATM lines are around the block and citizens are limited to $67 dollars a day in withdrawals I mean that's happening as i speak in a modernized nation it could happen here too. Let's just hope that when something big does happen we take our cues from the nations who have thrown the bankers in jail, have rejected the Rothschild banking network and the debt-based system of rule

1:10:41 That's all we can do and then hopefully we can weather that storm and come out on the other side with something better. But don't drive yourself crazy, I know conspiracy folks are always saying that the collapse is coming but this seems to be more than just the usual folks And i would take Scar from The Lion King's advice on this one and be prepared And prepared to meet does not mean getting a gun to defend my house from intruders. If we get to that point, We've already lost killing the first 10 intruders before I'm overrun doesn't really serve a purpose Look, we know our time in this reality is limited just enjoy what you can while you can Why worry about a collapse in October when you could die in a car accident today? Stay in the moment. I don't know, but that's the show! I'm really hoping to have the THC Plus bonus show up in the next 48 hours or so It's fairly short and a little disappointing But it's hard not get something out of listening to a guy who ran a Washington DC gay escort service for politicians And was on the fringes of a child pedophilia network You gotta get something out of that and it should be up soon

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