Jeanice Barcelo | The Dark Agenda Behind The Hospital Birth Protocols

00:05 That's true, Dr. Seuss! Here we go, Iriside Chatters as we try to avoid the slow roll of total control in this Rockefeller Rothschild debt-based system rule. And that is no easy task! We know we have a toxic culture drenched in poisons and chemicals from fluoride and pharmaceuticals in the water to aluminum barium and strontium raining from the skies as well as nearly everything in between not to mention the western medical system itself seems to make us sicker in many cases suppress

01:10 cures, and forgoes any real nutritional education in exchange for pills to make us feel barely well enough to keep dragging ourselves through those shitty jobs we love so much. It's no way to live and today were going to hone in on a specific area that we haven't really spent a lot of time in, and that is how these counterintuitive ways and nefarious practices apply to the hospital birthing process From prenatal to postpartum, we're going to dress this system down with Janice Barcello a woman who's dedicated a big slice of her life to understanding and dismantling this Western traditional way. Janice is a TV and radio show host researcher writer educator and activist dedicated to exposing the dark side of modern medicine she's also a trained doula an independent childbirth educator with expertise in the healing and prevention

01:58 prenatal and birth trauma. Her first book is titled Birth Trauma in the Dark Side of Modern Medicine, and I understand she's working on a second called MK Ultrasound? She also has a website, birthofanewearth.com And i'm psyched because this subject has some pretty far reaching implications and deeper agendas that we might have overlooked A champion to the people, a light in darkness, and hero of the unborn Janice welcome to The Higher Side Wow, isn't that beautiful? A hero of the unborn. Yeah, thank you so much. I'm really happy to be here Greg and happy to have the opportunity to discuss this information So I appreciate You inviting me on Oh likewise yeah? I'm so psyched you could come because I've been wanting to do a show on this subject for a while We've looked at many conspiratorial aspects of Western medicine But we never really focused just on the birthing process and even I was pretty shocked that the scope of this stuff when I got deeper into your work

02:57 And I think the best way to do it is probably just to go through the hospital birth protocols chronologically. But before we do that, what would you say about this subject overall? Like I mentioned in the intro, we have so many aspects of life weaponized against us. Why would this be any different right now? Exactly. And to understand that we're being deliberately altered from the gate, basically I mean the attack starts prenatally with what's called prenatal care and it's followed up by a series of intense traumas and chemical assaults on newborns during hospital birth

03:35 The interesting thing, and this is probably a topic for a separate show is that it actually begins preconception because we have also been manipulated sexually. So the way that we are behaving sexually and the way that we are conceiving children, the overwhelming majority of time is haphazardly as a side effect of fleshy indulgence, basically. This conception in print also affects our capacity to incarnate in a fully realized way so the attack is beginning preconception

04:14 with the influence that it's having on the consciousness of parents and how they're approaching each other and conceiving children. That's number one, pornographic influence is huge in our culture and I've done several talks on the impact of pornography which you can find on my YouTube channel there are quite a few on the internet But getting to the birth process, getting to the prenatal care. Okay? Understanding the forces that are behind this and what their agenda is and how this is impacting us I actually can't think of a more important topic than to deal with what's been affecting us from the moment of incarnation which begins with the spark of conception

05:00 Hmm. Well, yeah is clearly a really deep subject and obviously these practices in the hospital birthing process didn't all come at once and they've been kind of altered and refined along the way But what can be said about the history here? Like how did we move from a natural process that we clearly had for centuries or we wouldn't be here to such a cold and clinical system well, we have the Rockefeller let's say the Rockefeller cartel, to thank for this actually. Because what they did in the late 1800s and early 1900s is they basically were philanthropic so they gave medical schools a bunch of money

05:42 And then they said, listen we're giving you all this money. We really need to have our people on your boards to make sure our money's going to good places. So they basically infiltrated the medical schools and then changed the whole structure of what medical students were being taught. They also You know, there's a cult and I don't want to go deep into this Luciferian cult that is actually of Judaic origin. But this cult bought out all the medical journals and subsequently started promoting lies in their medical journals. For example, lies about alleged benefits of things like circumcision. So they have been able to mind control the population from what we call science which is totally satanic

06:40 from top to bottom what science has been promoting. If we look at what science has delivered in the form of nuclear weapons, nuclear radiation, genetically modified foods, fluoridated water vaccines all of this extremely harmful has been coming through the scientific community, which is part of this Luciferian cult. And the medical system is a fundamental component of this that's also controlled by the same cult. This may be uncomfortable for people to hear but understanding that we're dealing with a Luciferian force that has masterminded the means of mind controlling us

07:26 and genetically altering us so that we are mutants. Literally, we have very little of our brain capacity actually functioning and most of our genetic potential is dormant They say we use 5 or 10% of our brain potential and they call this genetic potential junk, junk DNA. But I'm here to tell you it's not junk it's dormant and its dormant because we have been genetically modified through this cult It's a very systematic approach that they've taken to create mutant and enslaved species. So we're coming out of it now, and I want to sort of give people a heads up that as you begin the awakening process and as the mind control begins to break down which is what this show is bound to cause

08:24 Okay, it can be very physiologically uncomfortable. You can feel your whole nervous system speeding up you can feel extremely agitated. You can feel like you don't even want to be in your own skin as the mind control begins to break down and I apologize ahead of time for any discomfort that what I'm about to share may cause people, because that's really never my intention. I don't want to hurt people. I don't want to upset people. I don't wanna traumatize people. What I do think needs to happen and this is why I am doing this is that people absolutely need to get this. We have got to understand what's happening, how we're being attacked and step up to the plate to begin to protect our children and ourselves but especially our children because right now we have been willingly handing our children over to this Luciferian satanic system

09:22 We've been putting ourselves and our bodies, and our children's bodies into their hands. And this is a very, very dangerous thing that we are doing and we have to get a hold of ourselves. Well said and of course here we're no strangers to the analysis of occult orders comes up all the time but, To get into the stages of the hospital birthing protocol like you said it seems like almost everything they do along the way is essentially an attack so start at the beginning with with this process, I guess would be the prenatal care. You know a woman finds out she's pregnant and she goes to a doctor and what are some of the first things that they do that you really start to take issue with? Everything they do i take issue with every single thing that they do is harmful let me start by saying that The main things we want to get across today are regarding ultrasound

10:20 and prenatal vaccinations. There's other things that are causing concern as well, like the gestational diabetes testing it's a totally fake diagnosis that is pushing women to allow themselves to be induced. The RhoGAM shot for Rh negative women all of these things are incredibly harmful but understanding that ultrasound Okay, these ultrasonic scans that they do it's usually an average of five per pregnancy right now and some women are experiencing 10 to 17 ultrasonic scans during a single pregnancy. And this is also combined with Doppler fetal heart monitors this is all ultrasonic irradiation

11:10 It is radiation. Ultrasound is the new x-rays And even though the medical system will lie through their teeth and tell you that ultrasound does not cause the same damage that x-rays cause, I can tell you with absolute certainty after three years of very deep research on this topic. That it is having the exact same effects as X ray exposure and the biggest problem with radiation exposure is that the effects may not show up.

11:51 for 5, 10, 20 years. So let me give you an example of how this works with radiation. I'll give you specifically ultrasound okay? They are using ultrasound as a form of male contraception because they have known since the 1950s that it stops sperm production so two 15 minute blasts to the adult male scrotum will ensure a minimum of six months infertility and the infertility can be permanent. So what do we think is going to be happening to the developing testes and ovaries, which by the way ultrasound has also been shown to alter the structural development of ovarian and testicular cells

12:51 So what do we think is happening to the developing testes and ovaries of babies in the womb who are being blasted with ultrasonic irradiation in order to discover the sex? And we have a situation right now that has been building since the 1970s, which was when ultrasound was mainstream. Okay? Of male infertility. Since the 1970s and to this day, we now have 60% less sperm in the males of the Western world. This is not a coincidence but the thing is this will not show up until the babies that have been exposed are of reproductive age and begin to become concerned that they're unable to create a baby

13:51 So they will not be making the connection, generally speaking between what happened to them in the womb and the fact that they hardly have any sperm. Right I mean obviously that's a huge huge concern we know the elite have been talking about depopulation for years and everybody in the conspiracy world has been so concerned that there was going to be some nuclear warfare or some huge attack something very epic and in your face but why would that be the case when they could just do these covert methods? And you know, you don't hear it quite as much because maybe its already taken care of. The depopulation agenda I mean here is but you also a long list of problems associated with ultrasound

14:34 for the baby, can you talk to us about some of those other negative side effects beyond just the infertility? Let me just back up for a second and say ultrasound is a nuclear attack. Okay this is atomic radiation in other words this involves the blasting apart of atomic atoms Okay, atoms inside of crystals. That's how they produce the ultrasound is by bombarding crystals with electricity and causing the atoms within the crystals, the electrons that are circling around the nucleus get blown out of their orbits through these electrical attacks. It's the exact same thing that they are using to create artificial radiation man-made radiation this is all an atomic

15:25 Meaning, they're attacking the basic building blocks of our universe. The foundational building blocks of our universe to create this man-made radiation. Fair enough! All right let me leave it at that it's a very dark world And it's very strongly orchestrated. So coming back to your second question, which involves all the other things that this causes one of the main things that really should get across well two things when you put a cell DNA molecule in water what happens is that the DNA creates a beautiful symphony of sound its like an orchestra of sound

16:15 When you then expose the water to ultrasound, and by the way ultrasound has to be carried through a medium like water or like the amniotic sac. Okay? When you expose that water to ultrasound, your DNA stops producing this beautiful melody and puts out a monotonous drone So we have at least one Russian scientist making the comment that the genetic information in this DNA has been completely deactivated from one exposure to ultrasound. And he made the comment that, oh my God you know we have no healthy children left because virtually all of them are

17:09 in the Western world certainly have been exposed to ultrasonic irradiation in utero. This deeply affects the DNA, it's deeply affecting the mitochondria inside of the DNA and when the mitochondria begin to deform or become dysfunctional because irradiation. This affects organ development, it affects many many aspects of the development of a baby which can show up in multiple ways. Right on your website you have a pretty lengthy list of things like from birth defects autism to low IQ to even like leukemia and

17:55 I'm just curious, because with a culture so full of problems—diet, nutrition, drugs, chemicals—how can we really peg all this to the ultrasound itself? Can you tell us a little bit more about where that data comes from for people who might be a little skeptical? Dr. Ann Cashion Well ask me about a specific one…which thing are you interested in and... Dr. Hall Well how about autism for starters? Dr. Ann Chashan Okay with autism what we have happening with ultrasonic exposure is The neurons in the brain, and first of all I just explained that mitochondria can be damaged inside of the DNA. Okay? Mitochondrial damage also leads to neuronal death alright? Neurons when you expose a brain to ultrasound, neurons that are intended to make it into the cortex

18:53 to generate cortical development do not get there. They are trapped in the lower levels of the brain, which means that the cortex is not going develop properly And the cortex is the part of our brain that allows us to develop language, it allows us to analyze the world around us. It allows us to control our impulses and ask the question whether or not it's an appropriate time to get violent Am I okay to not get violent here? It's the part of our brain that helps us regulate our behavior. It's also the part of our brain that allows us to communicate with the divine mind and to receive information

19:42 from source consciousness. So we are directly interfering with cortical development, we are directly interfering with the creation of apoptosis, of cell death, of neuronal death is massive ways that this is causing brain damage and autism of course I would say about ultrasound It is the first precursor to autism. So I'm not going to tell you that ultrasound is responsible for the autism epidemic because something else people should know is that ultrasound opens up the blood-brain barrier, okay? So when you take a pregnant woman and you expose her to ultrasound and then inject her with prenatal vaccines we now have a direct route

20:36 into the brain of that baby for the vaccine toxins because the blood-brain barrier has been opened through the ultrasound. Radiation in general breaks down the blood-brain barrier, which allows toxins that would never otherwise get to the brain get to the brain. Okay so there's a number of things that are happening at the same time to generate autism. Vaccines are huge contributor Right, right. That's the one we usually hear yes And because so many parents have witnessed their children regressing immediately into autism or dying within hours or days of receiving a vaccine caused by Encephalitis or brain swelling? So vaccines are huge culprit but when we think about autism We have to think about the inability of these children to

21:36 be able to bond properly, to be able to connect on a human level through eye contact through emotional contact. And we have a series of things that are contributing to this. And hopefully, we'll have time to talk about each but let me say very quickly okay? We have ultrasound vaccines in pregnancy induction that includes the use of pitocin. Pitocin being synthetic oxytocin Oxytocin in its natural form being the primary bonding agent that allows babies and mothers and fathers to bond, an experience love for each other at birth. That hormone will not be

22:22 circulating through the mother's system properly because of the introduction of pitocin into the bloodstream which tricks the brain, okay? And stops the production of natural oxytocin or undermines it severely blocking bonding and destroying the baby's oxytocin receptor sites. They're damaging the babies for life because of the lack of oxytocin at birth. Okay, this is followed by epidural which also trips the mother's brain so that she is not producing the opiates and beta endorphins and all these beautiful things that will also create powerful bonding in a powerful experience of well-being and love

23:07 Okay, followed by cesarean section which also interferes with bonding. Followed by cord clamping which cuts off the baby's oxygen supply causing further brain damage. Followed by eye ointments which also block bonding. Eye contact is critical for the activation of the brain to produce the neurochemicals of love and bonding they are blocking it with the eye ointment followed by newborn hats that are blocking the ability of parents to smell the pheromones coming off the baby's head, which also activate the brains of the parents to fall in love and identify their child. Followed by swaddling and followed by circumcision. Swaddling is a form of torture, unbelievable torture, and circumcision is absolute

24:04 most unbelievable, disgusting attack that we could ever conceive of strapping an infant to a torture board. Literally strapping his arms and his legs to a torture board so that all he can do is move his head sometimes shoving a pacifier in his mouth so he's choking on his screams while you systematically jam Sorry, I get really intense about this because it is outrageous that we have not seen this and parents are handing their babies over. But while you hand your baby over for this while they jam a sharp metal instrument into his penis

24:48 sticking it in between the foreskin, which is attached to the glands. Jamming it in there and then ripping the foreskin off of the glands of the penis without anesthetic 96% of the time that babies are given nothing Zero. Yeah, it's definitely dark stuff and that is a great overview of most of those major points I do want to dig deeper into them you know as we can but to get back to the ultrasound thing Let me say one thing before we move on back to ultrasound...I do believe the reason boys

25:30 are becoming autistic so much more than girls is because of the extreme brain damage that is being caused by circumcision. Well, you could say it's trauma. It causes a... I've heard you talk about disassociation which could contribute to those kind of neurological issues Yes, and babies that are capable of dissociating. Not all babies do this That's something I people should understand is those who are involved in trauma-based mind control Are looking for the children who can disassociate Because those are the ones those are the ones that can be tortured again and again without dying Interesting yeah very dark

26:13 Not all babies can dissociate, but ultrasound is also causing babies to dissociate. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on and certainly with circumcision boys are being pushed to dissociate Man, it is quite a bit of stuff. And another point I just wanted to make about the ultrasound is that you know, I've heard so many times doctors tell pregnant women not to get into a hot tub or something because their stomach and incubator are so sensitive to heat but I've also heard you talk about how ultrasound can cook an egg inside of a shell in the case of using it on a womb

26:56 cause burning on the bone. I mean, that is pretty nutty stuff and especially if that's true the trauma that it causes... That kind of imprinting is not good because we know that babies are sort of environmentally prepared before they even come out of the mother and you know you're kind of setting the kid up for an environment of torture. You're setting that life up to think everything is going to just be putting it through the wringer from the ultrasounds to the circumcision, it's not a good way to start life. You know jamming 10 needles into it for all these various vaccines

27:36 is pretty dark stuff for sure. And I guess, I would ask you is there any kind of control culture that we can look at? You know a culture of course that doesn't use ultrasounds and have these practices that we could compare our Western stats to theirs to see all this damage in the data Well, my book which I've changed the name it's going to simply be called The Dark Side of Prenatal Ultrasound will lay out many hundreds of studies that are pointing to the damage being done by ultrasound. You've got and not just ultrasound it's all the things that are adding up together but ultrasound is a huge

28:19 huge contributor to the health issues that we're seeing in children today. It's becoming more and more difficult to look for a society where they're not using ultrasound, and this is part of their game okay now we're not going have any comparison to another culture because the babies all around the world are being exposed to this center gonna become equally sick but if you look at the damage to the children in the United States alone, not just with autism. Okay? When I was a child...I'm 60 now we didn't have any autistic kids! I don't remember a single autistic child. Now you cannot walk into a classroom ask any teacher without having several children on the spectrum quote-unquote okay? Children have allergies asthma

29:19 All kinds of allergies to foods and different things like that. They're having very serious health problems that we did not see, neurological damage seizures blood disorders cancers all right you spoke earlier about the heating and especially the heating of bone. The reason bones are being heated up much more, well ultrasound causes massive heating okay? Up to 10 degrees the amniotic sac can go that warm which will cause damage to the developing baby in terms of the bones they are crystals

30:03 All right, the bones will begin to resonate with the frequencies. The extremely intense frequencies of ultrasound when they are exposed to ultrasound irradiation there are crystals inside that ultrasound transducer that are being tortured. They're being electronically tortured. The crystals are morphing and deforming And as they morph and deform, they push and pull the air around them which causes what they've termed ultrasound. It's a crystal screaming basically but the same thing is happening to the crystals in our body. They are also morphing and deforming so are we really surprised that we're seeing bone cancers or things like leukemia?

30:54 in very large numbers, in children younger than three. Are we really surprised to see that there's so much hearing damage when there are crystals inside of our ears that are also morphing and deforming in response to their resonating with the crystals in the ultrasound transducer? Wow! It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable that nobody, I mean it's like the elephant sitting in the middle of a living room and nobody is willing to look at it! Come on! Right So obvious The hearing damage also started in 1970s Isn't that a coincidence?

31:39 So to get to the next step, so we got prenatal drugs of course. We know those are no good ultrasounds or seeming increasingly dangerous and then if we get to the birth itself I think you know the first thing we should talk about is what you mentioned induction and i've heard you talk about induction as initiation into a call that they specifically use that word for a reason earlier you mentioned spiritual systems we aren't even aware of that are being damaged and affected. But what can be said about inducing labor? Well, induction is a word that people should be conscious up because it is a word that's used when we speak about being inducted into the military or inducted into the police academy or inducted into a cult, a cult that isn't service to the dark side. Okay. That is why this happening

32:36 when we acquiesce to the induction of labor, our baby is being initiated into a Luciferian order that runs the medical system and that basically runs our entire society at this point. But what induction is forcing the baby out of the womb before it's ready to be born okay? Babies in a natural birth are the ones that initiate labor. They are the ones that signal to mother's body, that they're ready to be born and then the mother will begin producing the neurochemicals of birth so in a beautiful world, the one that the creator has given us, the baby has dominion over the timing of its birth and the baby knows when that time is

33:36 However, they are usurping the baby's control over the timing of its birth. And they are imposing a mental idea that the baby has no control over its life, that they are the ones who will be controlling it's destiny. Okay? This is a very subtle unconscious thing but induction is going to have this effect on top of which, induction is created through extreme violence to the baby. All right? Everything that they do for an induction... Let me go through this okay? Amniotomy. Amniotomy is the breaking up the waters, the breaking of the amniotic sac, that beautiful watery oceanic sac that surrounds the baby

34:34 happens to be there in order to protect the baby from the intensity of contractions. So when you break it, the baby is going to be feeling the intensity of contractions much more that's number one okay? Number two fetal heart monitors as soon as you say yes to pitocin and induction and we're gonna get to pitocin because it's a major problem They're going to put these women on fetal heart monitors. The ones that go around the belly are using ultrasound, so the baby is going to be exposed to ultrasound frequencies which the baby can hear okay? To the baby it is like standing in a subway station when the trains are rolling in these frequencies can go up to 120 decibels and we wonder why there's hearing problems also

35:35 It's like standing next to, you know somebody with a chainsaw. All right so babies are hearing these frequencies they're being blasted with the radiation they're burning up throughout the entire labor and that's just if they're using the external fetal heart monitors in some cases they're going to use an internal fetal heart monitor during which a metal probe will be screwed into the baby's head. Right, I thought that was really like so over-the-top! I had a hard time believing it until i looked it up and that really does happen Yes look up electronic fetal probes take a look at these screws that they're putting in your baby's head

36:22 that they're sticking their hands up into the bodies of laboring women, which is incredibly painful. Dangerous in terms of infection and damaging and screwing a metal probe into the baby's head while it's in the womb What a welcoming, right? So now we've got the enteotomy which makes room for them to put this probe in the baby's head. Okay and then we're going to introduce something like cytotec. Cytotec is a drug that they're going to say ripens the cervix it basically causes a miscarriage state so that your your cervix will open up and the baby will ideally just fall right out however cytotec is an ulcer drug

37:09 that is being used against label by the medical system, which label specifically says should not be used on pregnant women because it can cause uterine hyperstimulation and uterine rupture. Uterine hyperstimulation meaning The uterus is going to be turned into a trash compactor instead of an organ which is designed to help the baby get born. It's going to crush the baby. Yikes! That's during hyperstimulation. It's going to cut off the baby's oxygen supply, it's going to put the baby into fetal distress or it'll rupture the uterus perhaps threatening the life of the mother and the baby perhaps causing an amniotic fluid embolism and immediately killing the mother right? Mothers are dying in large numbers

38:05 as a result of medical interference in the birth process. In fact, the United States has one of the highest rates of maternal mortality and infant mortality in the world. Wow! So I wanted to step back too Induction for a second because this is where I wanted to point out. Everything i'm talking about right now it's part of the induction process fair enough and i've heard you use that phrase usurping the destiny of the unborn before and it might sound a little new agey but I've become a big believer in astrology. I just see the data and it seems to work, and if souls do reincarnate and we pick our vessel so-to-speak when we come back into the material world... If you intentionally set up a system to screw with that, I can see how you really can alter the course of an entire life

38:58 that might have had a whole different life path laid out or had a different life path in mind. And then, yeah, usurping the destiny of the unborn is a great way to express that because you are changing quite a bit with the way that baby comes into the world. I'm not sure they can usurp the destiny let me say that They can definitely usurp the dominion that the baby has over the timing of its birth And they can also scramble the baby's ability to fulfill its destiny with all the trauma. If I look at how far off course my life was until I started getting on this, I was very, very, very far off course from what I believe I was designed to do in this lifetime and I think many people are

39:49 If you're involved in a job that you hate, if you hate waking up in the morning and doing what you do every day. You are not on course with your destiny. You have become a slave. Mm-hmm. You have become enslaved to a system and you're probably raising children to fit into that slave system And now it'll increase with each generation. So I don't know that they can succeed in usurping the destiny, they can certainly try to interfere with it and they are doing that on a grand scale some of us are strong enough to pull through it and get back on our you know get back on our path but not all of us will

40:36 All right, so yeah they are interfering at some level but they can succeed wholly in interrupting the destiny. They absolutely have succeeded in interfering with the dominion that that child has over the timing of its birth for at least one in three children in the United States today. One in three babies has been forcefully ejected from the womb before it was ready to be born And that's very mean spirited. And don't for a minute believe that the babies cannot feel how mean spirited this attack is, the babies know they're completely telepathic. They can sense every aspect of it even if the parents cannot hear most to the parents are completely unconscious, completely clueless and they allow these things to happen without doing an ounce of research about the damage that it causes

41:37 So, induction is a major problem and everything that I have just shared okay from the amniotomy to the fetal heart monitors to the cytotec and the pitocin which i haven't talked about all of these things are part of the induction process. I'll elaborate on the pitocin angle a little bit if you could as I stated pitocin is synthetic oxytocin All right, synthetic oxytocin when it is injected into the body of a laboring mother will undermine her ability to produce real oxytocin. Real oxytocin being absolutely necessary for the bonding between mother-baby and father. Oxytocin is critically important for an experience of deep love and a sense of wellbeing at birth

42:32 When it's not happening, when it's not you know the mother's body should be flooded with this hormone at birth. But if she has had Pitocin injected into her bloodstream. I'm telling you, there's gonna be issues with her being able to breastfeed because natural oxytocin controls the letdown of colostrum and the ability to breastfeed your baby. Natural oxytocin if you don't have it, you're likely to experience postpartum depression because you haven't been able to experience love at birth. All right, it's going to interfere with bonding. And when bonding is interfered with your body may think your baby is dead literally if you cannot hold your baby

43:19 If your baby's been taken away to be poked and prodded and injected with toxins, and poison burning gunk put in its eyes. And a hat put on its head and swaddled so it goes into parasympathetic chakra dissociation. If you've had your baby taken away during that first hour after birth do not be surprised if you experience postpartum depression. And I'm not just talking about mothers now Yeah i thought those elements of bonding were. Just really great i some stuff i didn't really think about all that much but earlier you kind of went through a little bit of it was saying no we wrap the babies up and we put those, hats on their heads in that block skin to skin contact on one level and then also this pheromones apparently come from the baby's head on another and the swaddling. Was something that i was like really swaddling is bad but i mean your basically putting that baby in a straight jacket i mean those are

44:20 restraints. And this is a newborn baby, it's probably trying to flex its muscles a little bit you know like kind of stretch out and it's like stuck in this little cocoon basically in a mummified state not to be super dramatic but you know you got this baby screaming at the top of its lungs it's been prodded with 10 needles by this time probably had the tip of its penis cut off and now it's uh in a straight jacket I mean this is just a hell of a way to come into the world It's off the charts. But again, this is the reinforcement of the thought, the idea that we have control over you. We have control over you. We have control over your life. Now it's time for you to learn how to dissociate so that you can deal with the extreme torture that we are going to subject you to throughout your life and they are doing this okay? We are being tortured all of us

45:19 Through the radiation grid, there's a myriad of ways that we're being tortured. And you've talked about this satanic initiation and that this whole process basically boils down to black magic. I mean, this seems to be taking everything they've learned and studied about the human birth process and then flipping it on its head or extracting the most trauma that they can out of the situation. There are little subtleties to this like Causing resentment between the mother and child because the mothers like what you've caused me all this pain coming out and there's a little bit of a problem their causes resentment between the mother and father like why are you protecting me when i'm in this huge state of pain which is the fathers role so it's just like all these little subtleties to end that disassociation like the maximizing of pain and suffering. I mean a lot of magical conversations this is where you get into the idea of

46:18 making room for some other entity or multiple personalities. I mean, this is essentially exactly what MKUltra was up to. There's so many things that you just said that really need to be addressed okay? For example the fact that mothers are going to feel that they can't trust their partners to protect them and that this can be the beginning of the end for that marriage okay it's very unconscious for most people, all right? When a father is forced to stand by and watch as his wife or partner and his child are being abused by the medical system that mother will begin to have less respect for the father because he didn't protect her. However these poor fathers have also been extremely traumatized

47:15 from their own births, many of them circumcised. Many of them conditioned to dissociate immediately in the face of a threat so they walk into the hospital okay and they go numb there's no way that they can speak out I know because this happened to me personally all right? I watched my husband stand there and do absolutely nothing as these doctors were torturing my baby And I never was able to forgive him for that. Okay, and to this day even now that I understand what caused him to go into that catatonic state instead of doing something all right? I still harbor resentment for the fact that he did not protect us He did not say a word. He stood by and watched but he couldn't help it because he went into shock

48:20 Man. See, I started cursing at the doctor and then they threatened to move me out of the hospital have me removed my husband stood there like a mute My baby was in an NICU. My baby was in the neonatal intensive care unit which is Unbelievable torture but let's not go there yet because I don't know if we'll even get there. I mean it's on unbelievable what they are getting away with how much torture of these babies But this issue between about family breakdown after a traumatic birth is a very, very big one. And people need to become hip to it. Childbirth should be it's actually the most important event in the life of any couple when it happens and the way it was designed to happen that is in a love filled gentle way

49:17 When mother, father and child are able to bond. They're able to make eye contact. They're able to smell those pheromones. They're able to make skin-to-skin contact the bonding that the brain will be triggered to flood this system with an experience of love the likes which will never happen at any other time than during the birth of a child okay? This is an experience that can bond that family permanently And that's what it is designed to do. It's a reference point, that if you get into situations later in life that are difficult in your marriage all right you can refer back to that point where there was so much love flowing that you will remain bonded to your partner and to your child

50:08 That's what is supposed to happen. What is happening now, the furthest thing from that I mean you can get pictures of fathers sitting in the waiting room alone There can be...I mean you have a whole freaking medical school is in the room with the mother Right? Everybody's watching her sticking their hands in her vagina. I mean, there's a whole ton of people in there, the janitor you got a whole freaking audience in there right but your husband, baby's father is outside in the waiting room or even if he's in the room If you're lucky enough to have your partner with you all right many times You've got this doctor standing in front of the woman catching his baby

50:54 Like, what are we doing here? It's like they're stepping in and usurping the father's role. Right well we're so conditioned to just trust the experts! And to give our power away right okay that is his baby First eyes that that baby should look into are the father's or the mother's, period. The first hands on that child should be the father's or the mother's. Right? The first connection that that baby makes should be with his or her parents. Imprinting is a real thing! Yes it is and you would never see an animal in the wild hand off their young

51:38 to somebody else. No, no, no! They are front and center very present. Okay? A mother would never hand over her offspring to somebody else. That's true. But all of these things see people need to understand how bonding happens how the brain works how the neurobiology of love is activated at birth The neurobiology of love being a fundamentally neurochemical physiological experience of love because your body floods with these chemicals of well-being and of bonding. All right, when you don't have that at birth, you're going to be looking at the neurobiology of grief instead which is what we call postpartum depression.

52:32 And so, man I guess to get back to the stages of the protocol. We obviously fast forwarded a little bit but is there more to say about something like the epidural? I think this is one thing that a lot of mothers actually do reject and then they say that they had a quote unquote natural birth but it's still obviously so far from natural But a lot of problems arise from that epidural right? Oh yes And let me say that it's hilarious what passes for natural birth. You know, if your baby comes out of your vagina they're going to qualify that as a natural birth even if you've had the induction, the pitocin, the amniotomy all this stuff, the cord clamping there is nothing natural about any of this zero, you've exposed your baby to ultrasound and you've had your vaccines I mean this is not natural folks

53:25 Okay? Every aspect of this is an interference. With respect to the epidural, I didn't get very deep into Pitocin and it's a very deep topic but with epidural the epidural also tricks the mother's brain okay so that she will not be producing the beta endorphins in the natural opiates of births now in childbirth Those beta endorphins and natural opiates are needed for the baby also. They help the baby to overcome the intensity of the childbirth experience, so we have pitocin contractions

54:05 which by the way are extremely intense. They are unrelenting over the top one after another, after another on top of each other with no rest totally different than natural contractions. The natural contractions will start they'll you know peak for 30 seconds, it will ease off and the body will rest. They'll build again they'll peak they'll ease off the body will rest all of this is necessary for the well-being of the mother for the well being of the baby with Pitocin The contractions are going to be off the charts not just for the mother okay but for the baby who will have a screw in its head Who will not have the protection of the amniotic sac

54:57 who will be exposed to ultrasound frequencies. I mean, the baby's being attacked and the contractions are going to be smashing the baby. All right now the mother is going to beg for the epidural. The epidural is going to come in and further disrupt the natural chemicals of birth that are necessary not just for the mother but for the baby, okay? So when those natural opiates and beta endorphins are not flooding the mother's system because she has had an epidural. The epidural is telling the body there is nothing happening here I guess I can kick back and relax I don't need to you know produce these things there is nothing happening alright so now even though the mother is not feeling anything the baby is going to be feeling more pain

55:45 Wow and you know i saw a documentary years ago called the business of being born in it didn't go as deep as your going but did talk about that process at hospitals use like clockwork and that you get the epidural then the babies heart rate speeds up so they scare u into another drug and then the heart rate is too low and so than they say okay now we gotta do that c section is the only way, and now they got on the hook for. and expensive surgery, and you're gonna have to pay for a couple of overnights. Of course this documentary's focus was on the money aspect but a C-section does a lot more damage than just to the wallet right? A c-section does a tremendous amount of damage And let me say that the Pitocin we need to really cover this in more depth before we move on Sure With respect to the baby's heart rate which you just mentioned okay The Pitocin

56:39 is going to escalate the baby's heart rate because the pitocin contractions are going to be crushing the baby. And, because in that crushing, the umbilical cord is also gonna be compressed cutting off the baby's oxygen supply You understand? Mm-hmm, absolutely. So there's been several people also coming forward this is in my book Birth Trauma and the Dark Side of Medicine, dark side of modern medicine all of this in my book by the way but specifically nurses and other people coming forward to talk about something called pit to distress

57:24 which means the doctor gives an order to the nurses, to ramp up that pitocin to the highest level possible in order to deliberately put the baby in distress so that they can move more quickly to a C-section. This is not uncommon. So they know that pitocin is going to cause fetal distress This is why they hook up the fetal heart monitors to you so that they can watch as the baby goes into fetal distress and say, oh my. Look at that your baby's in fetal distress what a surprise I wonder what could possibly be causing it we're only blasting these sound frequencies out your baby through the fetal heart monitor terrorizing your babies

58:10 and crushing your baby through the pitocin contractions. But, you know we don't have any idea that we might be the ones that are iatrogenically inducing their fetal distress so that we can then move you more quickly to a C-section. And they talk about the cascade of interventions which is if you allow induction yeah sure enough Induction is going to mean you have like a 70% chance of ending up with the C-section. Well, why is that? Because your baby's not ready to be born and because your baby's gonna go into distress from all these things that they're doing to try to force the baby to come out of the womb before it's ready!

58:59 And you also have like a 70% chance that your baby will end up in the neonatal intensive care unit, which will extremely interfere with bonding. Extremely harm the neurological development of your baby and during which your baby will be tortured several times a day every day that it spends in the NICU and I'm not making this up. NICU babies are systematically tortured They are repeatedly paralyzed with drugs so they can't move and they can't cry. But very painful things are done to them while they're on paralysis drugs like having tubes shoved down into their throats, being put on incubators, having IV tubes stuck into every vein of their body including veins in their heads

59:57 inserting feeding tubes, doing surgery just like circumcision. Doing surgery on babies without anesthetic but paralyzing them so they can't move or scream. Man that is dark! It is sick shit excuse me it is evil to the core right isolating babies preventing them from being held, putting them in incubators where nobody the only touch they receive is painful touch. Repeatedly sticking them with needles in their toes and in their heels and the most sensitive parts of their body several times a day every day putting tape on their skin ripping it off putting it back on ripping it off until the skin is raw sticking them with so many needles that they get gangrene

1:00:53 in their feet, and it's disgusting. It's disgusting evil." And these are all strangers you don't know what they're doing you're not even around at that point but before we run out of time I did want to just maybe hopefully give some people hopefully give some people some positive information. We clearly see what not to do, but I don't think people know much about home birth or water birth. We are so conditioned to trust the experts we get no information on this stuff generally but how would you advise soon-to-be parents? Like what should people know about home births or dispelling those myths before we go?" One of the things i do with my clients first and foremost

1:01:34 Ideally, we begin working before they're pregnant. But in the case that they come to me while they're pregnant, the first thing is just start working with their own birth trauma and to help them move out their own birth trauma This is very important because we don't want traumatic repetition. We don't wanna recreate our own birth trauma when we give birth to our children, which is very common because the body is always trying to work it out and one of the ways that works it out is by recreating in an attempt to create a happy outcome but usually it's not a happy outcome. Usually traumatic repetition compounds the trauma. It's a very deep topic

1:02:15 But that's the first thing is to address any past trauma, especially any trauma that people have experienced in the womb or during birth. Their own birth or the birth of past children If they come to me prenatally, I'm going to encourage them about conscious conception. The creation of a space of love. I'm gonna encourage them to conceive in that space of love and to find ways to gestate that baby outside of a field of trauma to avoid prenatal care as much as possible, what passes for prenatal care. To get themselves a midwife or home birth midwife there are two different kinds of midwives there are certified nurse midwives that

1:03:05 Usually, midwives are very medically oriented and medically trained. They're often working within the hospital system and generally not very helpful. That's not everybody but a much better bet is to go for a certified professional midwife in the United States so that they are much more prepared to work with people who are interested in avoiding technological interference and doing home births. They're usually much more skilled, and adept, and practiced at the art of home birth—so finding a certified professional midwife, doing everything you can

1:03:46 to learn about natural birth, watching as many films as you can on this topic. I think Birth As We Know It is the most important film that I've ever seen on this topic by Elena Tonetti in terms of understanding the power of natural birth and the damage that birth trauma can inflict on us also watching videos on birth trauma so that you can understand the things that are causing birth trauma and try to avoid them. Read my book, Birth Trauma and the Dark Side of Modern Medicine. Read my forthcoming book The Dark Side of Prenatal Ultrasound. Educate yourself. Watch films very important

1:04:32 and do the research. Get books like Susan Weed's book on herbal for the childbearing year, I don't know the exact name of the book her name is Susan s-u-s-u-n Weed, W-E-E-D and learn about the herbs that will help you conceive in a healthy condition. Perhaps help you detox and ready your body for conception and help you during labor so that you can avoid the use of technological interventions and use those things which the creator has given us right from the very beginning to support your process of childbirth

1:05:12 Prepare your body for childbirth by drinking red raspberry leaf tea, for example. Or alfalfa leaf if you want to have plenty of vitamin K and avoid that ridiculously toxic vitamin K shot or any of their toxic synthetic drugs. Learn about the herbs that will provide you and your baby with everything that your body needs to have a healthy pregnancy and a healthy and gentle birth. And learn about the herbs that will help you move through difficult times during the birth process Okay, things like blue cohosh and black cohosh herbs that will stop any sign of hemorrhage. All of these things are things that would be beneficial for you to educate yourself about and hopefully a midwife would be educated about if you've had any past miscarriages, any stillbirths, any abortions, you are carrying birth trauma and it is very important

1:06:15 Try to get it out of your body before you give birth. This is the work that I do, this is what I'm helping people do if you are interested in such work please email me at jenisebarcelloatyahoo.com or visit my website at birthofanewearth.com and read everything on my website, you know there's great stuff there even for fathers about what fathers can do to protect their partners what they should do during hospital birth I've I've offered courses specifically for fathers. I have so much information available for free on my website and also all over my YouTube channel that, I don't think you'll get a better education from anybody else. I honestly don't! I don't think most midwives are clued in to the issue of birth trauma and certainly they're not courageous enough to address it with most people. And yet if your birth locks up

1:07:13 You know, if you go into work through past trauma and if you have somebody that's aware of this and can help you process it. This can be extremely beneficial instead of trying to introduce drugs to override the process which will always be harmful and induce more trauma So there's things that we can do. That's a basic overview, I mean... Yeah! ...I've worked with people who have avoided prenatal care and the hospital system entirely and have not allowed these forces to touch their children

1:07:52 And this is not an easy thing for most people to do. Most people would never have the guts to do it. It is tough! But, you know after you've had a baby that's become autistic because of the extreme abuse that was inflicted on this baby and... This baby, one of my clients her baby was not even vaccinated but became autistic. Autistic because of all the trauma from the first birth and the second birth there was some traumatic repetition. You know, by the third birth she said they're going to throw me into high risk I'm not going. They're gonna hurt me they're gonna hurt my baby I'm not going to expose my baby to this so sometimes you know you got to be back into a corner with tremendous abuse to yourself and your babies before you have the courage to say No way!

1:08:50 I'm not letting them touch me this time while my baby. I'm so on board with a lot of what you pointed out today but i'm sure some listeners find parts to be, a little extreme or over the top but to play devil's advocate here almost everyone listening has gone through hospital birth and sure ninety percent of the guys listening are circumcised we've all probably been vaccinated. and many of us feel fine. What else can be said in summary to further the point that this process really is as bad as we've been discussing when so many of us have been through it? So many of us have been through it, and we've made it out alive. Our bodies—our physical bodies—have made it out but our spiritual capacities have been made null. And I don't know if anyone

1:09:48 that has their spiritual capacities intact. And in order to understand what that means, I encourage people to read the Ringing Cedars books, Ringing Like a Bell and Cedars Like the Trees, ringingcedars.com in order to understand what are pristine earthling? I won't say human because a human is an altered man All right, what a pristine earthling was capable of prior to genetic modification and the attack through trauma. We have no concept of what we could do if we had our capacities intact. Many of us have a very damaged ability to create healthy relationships that are enduring. That's one clear indication

1:10:48 that we have suffered from trauma. If you've gone through several divorces, if you've never been able to get married or even experience what I'm talking about when I say the neurobiology of love...if you've never felt that love just from looking in somebody's eyes, I am not talking about orgasm it is a totally different experience. Orgasm is stunted and incomplete The neurobiology of love is immense and it floods the whole system. If you've never experienced that, then you are altered. If you have a difficult relationship with your mother especially then you have been traumatized and altered and so has she. And the same goes for your father okay? if you are willingly handing your baby over for vaccines or circumcision there's something not right

1:11:53 You're not thinking clearly. There's something that happened to you, that caused brain damage enough for you not to have the instincts to protect your offspring Hmm. Well, this has been so eye-opening a little graphic at times But it is what it is before I really let you go Please do remind people one more time where they can dig deeper into your website your articles your book all that good stuff My website is birth of a new earth calm Please go there. You will find my book there, Birth Trauma and the Dark Side of Modern Medicine. You'll find my double DVD series there on pornography. You will find two upcoming workshops in the UK and in The Netherlands should your listeners be from these countries. You'll find a tremendous amount of information on my website also on my YouTube channel which is Birth Of A New Earth

1:12:52 or you can go to the YouTube channel of Janice Barth. Psello, which has less videos but still there's a lot of information there as well. I have a blog which is probably a little bit too hard hitting for most people but it's getting a lot of hits you know almost 5 million views and that's birthofanewearth.blogspot.com It's very very hard-hitting and it's not specifically about the birth process You'll find much more about pregnancy and childbirth on my website at birthofanewearth.com, please watch for my book The Dark Side of Prenatal Ultrasound and please forgive me if I've caused you any pain during this show because I know it's very very painful to address this and really I feel badly to cause people pain but is so needed for us to understand this

1:13:53 Yeah, sometimes the truth hurts. But well thanks again definitely a unique show that's going to make a lot of people think so mission accomplished and take care yourself out there thanks again thank you Greg God bless you as well and bye everybody bye-bye take care Wow ladies and gentlemen Janice Barcello Serious stuff. She does not mince words and I like that! I thought it was a pretty unique show for us to do, A subject that hasn't really been covered in full And kids are not really in my immediate future but It was a nice show to do and the wife you know she puts together the show notes So she grabs all of the links so she saw even more and was saying yeah fuck Pitocin Not interested

1:14:40 And we definitely went on a few tangents in this episode, but when we were able to just go through that hospital birth protocol step by step I thought it was really compelling stuff. and i know its alot to take in at once and not every aspect is going to apply to every person's situation But even if 20% of this is as harmful as we discussed that is too much I've talked to a lot of recent parents who had regrets about certain aspects of the process that they didn't really think through or consider beforehand, that were just kind of tacked on or rushed through. Or just kind of assumed and they weren't super happy with that when they reflected on it later and that's something that i try to keep in mind

1:15:28 I'm also not a guy who's out there watching a lot of birthing videos, but i thought i owed it to myself before this interview to see if i really thought these ecstatic or orgasmic births were exaggerated. And it's pretty wild to see birth after birth that look like the women are in almost no pain It is worth a watch. Some of them, you know tangentially speaking with their dynamic are a bit too open for me no pun intended but the husband and kids are naked with the mom in a kiddie pool and that's great you know big happy family but that's where I know i'm going to draw the line if you aren't birthing a human being there's no reason for you to be naked someone is filming this okay your nine-year-old swimming around naked in a birthing pool in the living room? But this is not the point

1:16:17 Just give them a watch because you can tell if someone's in pain or not. And these are women on no drugs, so judge for yourself but how about that ultrasound info? That's definitely something I'm gonna take to heart. I'm already a pretty less is more kind of guy but that did just drive it home I hope if anything with the tens of thousands of people listening that we did cut down on some radiation exposure maybe we make some potential parents dig deeper into these topics and find out what they're comfortable with. And again just don't wait to the last minute And think these things through. Sure, we all want to test our growing feti and make sure everything is healthy in the incubator but do be careful and thoughtful about everything you do in that process I was also thinking as Janice kept bringing up birthing trauma maybe this a little far but it could be that for some people its bad enough to induce abduction like dreams poking and prodding medical experiments PTSD type stuff who knows

1:17:20 But it is curiously like the scene of some abductions. Maybe it's birthing trauma, I'm sure its more than just that but...I wouldn't be surprised if some people have lifelong nightmares about aspects of that Anyway do check out her site birthofanewearth.com She even has a piece on droopy eye syndrome an indication you've been a victim of MKUltra abuse and she got SO many Hollywood folks on there Very topical, very poignant. Check it out! I do wish we could have gotten to that but sometimes it's also nice to be like BAM two hours essentially one topic So also let's just do that part now But as always if you liked the first hour join the higher side chats plus and get this second TheHigherSideChatsPlus.com five bucks a month for an extra hour of all five shows each month You can also sign up through patreon now

1:18:17 What aspects did we talk about in this episode? Well, how about cutting the cord causing weak births and raising some scary occult implications for giving away your baby's blood. I thought this was super important obviously we talked about it on multiple levels but really just on a base one stop cutting that cord so early it does seem like your baby needs those nutrients It's going to suck them in and have a strong first day Seems important, but we did get into how much of that pain in childbirth is unavoidable versus how much is situational. Also more on the creator and the spiritual implications of all this... The sexualization of children? The dark ritual of circumcision and the blood-sucking by mouth tradition that still goes on today! The vaccine and eye ointment components? Apesiotomy?! Jesus do not remind me about apesiotomies but

1:19:13 Also, we talked about the modern practice of making life from the eggs of dead women and sperm of dead men in a lab. Wild stuff! Very interesting! I think it's time you treat yourself! Anyway, I do try to cast a wide net and cover a lot of diverse ground and you be the judge. But another point about this show is imprinting. I definitely think the hospital process interferes with that on multiple levels and imprinting is a big deal it's very easy to see Ducklings will follow a dog around if it's the first thing they see when they're born. The fetus also looks for clues about its environment very early on, they did this study a couple of times during famines and found that the baby's digestion or maybe a better word would be metabolism is changed for life based on the clues they got from their environment, the signals coming in in the environment which they were grown

1:20:10 So, yeah. These things do seem to matter and it might sound intense to commit to a non-hospital birth but we all come from a long line of people who were not born in hospitals granted you want things to be clean You wanna educate yourself and prepare But to quote Rob Schneider...you can do it! And with that I'm outta here Oh, I guess I should also say as far as Wolfgang's trial they did have a pre-trial proceeding that you could see on YouTube I also heard earlier today, just a couple hours ago that the lawsuit was dropped and then i did hear that it wasn't so...I'm not sure. I haven't heard definitively from him It's tough when the guy doesn't have social media. I don't want to bother him but the deposition aspect is scheduled for tomorrow as far as I know But I just wanted to keep you updated which is really to say I don't know what's going on but I'm thinking about it And with that I'm getting out of here

1:21:07 Big thanks again to Janice, I've done my part. Your move deviant doctors hellish hospitals and masochistic medical protocol producers your fucking move They've overcome their shyness Now we're calling them your highness And the world screamed, save me THC They destroyed the bonds of friendship and respect Between the only people left Who'd even look them in the eye and make a fortune

1:22:10 Of the same ones that they tortured And a world screamed, save me THC Let's look for Jesus Some will say Mr. Jesus So far away You're the only one who Can tell me if it's true Merchants too They built A little empire

1:22:54 They're out of some crazy garbage Called the blood of the exploited Working clave overcome their shining Now we're calling them your highness And the world screams Save me THC, save me THC