JC Johnson | Skinwalkers, Crypids, & The Book Of Enoch

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01:34 Holy hell, Ironside Chatters! How are we doing? Never better I hope navigating the labyrinthine matrix of roadblocks and hurdles that is our modern society on your way to claiming a piece of the crag. Drinking a little drink and smoking a little smoke and going to mow for the official time from sunny San Diego. I'm Greg Carlwood and today were hitting Cryptozoology saw us pretty hard, talking about many strange creatures and humanoids and flying things that people are seeing out there with a true adventurer of our time JC Johnson. He's a lot of fun with some pretty wild stories he is also doing a lot looking into the Native American Skinwalker cults which are pretty creepy as well

02:11 It's a great show and before we dive into it, I just wanted to remind you guys that it is the fourth show of the month which means on our next episode. I will have pulled a money bomb winner out of the audience To take home half the donations we've gotten at THC this month. It's little on the low end but around 200 bucks right now probably will get a little higher before then Definitely donate if you'd like to get involved with that And I'll be picking a winner on the 25th Just today or two before the next episode And with that said, plop down next to the campfire in your mind because we're getting weird with a modern Indiana Jones who's got tales upon tales that are just a blast to listen too. So let's do it JC Johnson With an appropriate THC lead-in track by Sean Hunton Thanks man Boom I walk on the higher side I walk on the higher side

03:10 UFOs carry the elite, while cryptids sprinkle fairy dust we call it DMT. The machine elves capture the layout of the rapture We can't let leprechauns get the gold that they're after Blackout children come around and they give you the creeps Greg Carlwood chillin' with a gang of big feet I could say that is that in a reptilian pope hat But i'd rather get started on a higher side chat What? Greg where are you at Alright people, every few weeks we have to check in with the world of Cryptozoology to hear about what folks are seeing out there and the list just keeps getting longer and longer. Sasquatch, Bat Squatch, Sheep Squatch, Skinwalkers, Lizardmen, Wolfman, Giant Snakes, Giant Birds, Little People, and Miniature T-Rexes just to name a few! Are these things just elusive animals? More man than beast or some type of multi dimensional spiritual entities

04:04 or a strange concoction of all three? I don't know if anybody can say for sure, but today's guest definitely has some insights worth considering. His name is JC Johnson and he is the man behind Crypto Four Corners, a group of enthusiastic researchers determined to get at the bottom of some mysteries in the four corners areas of the US of A. He has been an outdoor guide for over 20 years now. He aint no house cat! He's the Indiana Jones of the crypto community. Welcome to THC! Absolute pleasure to be here. JC, man you are such a blast to listen too I've only recently discovered Crypto Four Corners and i love hearing about these investigations Can can you tell us a little bit about how the group was formed and some of the early events or sightings that kind of brought you to make this quest more of a staple in your life? Well as we said I've been an Outdoor & River Guide for actually well over 25 years probably longer now because I'm getting older

04:59 It was a lot of things that were happening to us, and I say us because a lot of times they would have people out as a charge or you know They're doing a river trip with you. You're spending vacation with people And we're taking them hiking on a river trip something of that nature an outdoor guide to make sure they get in and get back safely And a lot of times with the river trips, they would come away with some paddling skills. They'd never paddled a canoe before or kayak. They never pitched a tent before so you know we're doing just mild adventure as far as that goes.

05:35 good food for them to eat and things like that. But, you know they're still coming away with some wood skills or river skills, coming away with a better perspective on how things work in the great out of doors and in some cases coming away with the fact that the giant mountain lion doesn't want you to pat him on the head and scruff his whiskers he wants to eat you! A lot of folks are Disney-ified with the great out of doors, and in a way that problem kind of takes care of itself because these people disappear in the great out of doors. So yeah...being aware, situational awareness and this goes into

06:14 talking about our first real encounter was very horrific and it was in the Blue Ridge Reservoir. It's up on the Mogollon Rim, the Mogollon Monster Area and to this day, The Legend of the Blue Ridge Banshee we kind of helped launch that but You know, I would have camps in these back canyons sometimes for weeks at a time. And there were strange things going on, strange noises at night, strange vocalizations we'd hear the tree pops rock clicking all through that canyon system it was almost a constant and...I just got used to it. It was like crickets you know? I couldn't explain it so I just tuned it out but there was one night we got back there just after ice out and we still had floating sheets of ice we had to avoid my canoe

07:02 And it was a dry spring and we saw bear sign on every shore, every place we could even think to put a camp up. We were leaving and I remembered...a 10 by 15 rock that was about 3 feet out of the water and it was flat! like a meatloaf and it is adam's like yeah we can do that and it's about 30 feet out from a cliff facing I think we're just about bear proof so we went back when we found that rock and bungee corded the tent down with rocks and bungee cords and duct tape you know, we had enough room for a couple of chairs in my little grill and pretty comfy. So after our house built we went out and we ran into two other fishermen this was

07:44 10 to 12 miles of water going through these back canyons, depending on the water level. And that's the only people we ran into and they weren't gonna be staying and actually going or trolling around for some fish in some trout we saw them packing up! And they were like okay, we can raise hell now! We fished all day sang silly songs shouted at the top of our lungs having a great time...and we got back to our rock in the water Fired up some steaks, probably went to bed about 10.30. I mean we had a pretty busy day and I woke up little after midnight and I had beer cans on my chest, soda cans on my chest, Kleenex shoes... And I look over at my buddy and what the hell did you throw all this stuff on me for? He says, You were snoring keeping me awake but that's not a problem now." I go, What?" And he says listen in this shrill scream

08:39 is coming from the back canyon, and I'd heard pieces of it before but never the sustained shrill scream that i was hearing. The little pieces...I heard of it before. The scream, I could justify that being a cougar screaming. You know half a dozen things but this thing was prolonged long long screaming and it was heading towards us and you could hear branches snapping and breaking, my buddy goes it's a Banshee I was stationed in the Black Forest in Germany with the army. And I remember hearing the banshees they got three inch long nails and they come through the treetops and they jump on you and rip your shreds, you know what I'm listening

09:25 And I'm more along the line that whatever this creature is, whatever this entity is it's making a trail through the trees to us breaking limbs and everything else. Eventually and like I said we're 30 feet out in the water on this flat rock and we look up because we're listening as it comes and when it ends up at 10 we got our heads sticking out and I see this figure up on the ridge above us you know on top of the cliff face And the first thing he did was throw a three by five rock, like a discus. And that thing...that rock had to weigh well over 100 pounds. Dang! And it just missed my canoe and I don't think it meant to hit my canoe but just missed the canoe and made a big sploosh in the water. And then a consequential wave comes and starts banging my aluminum canoe against the rock so I've got the audible of the canoe banging against the rock and this guy's screaming

10:23 And as we're looking out of the tent door, he starts picking up forest debris and lobbing it down on us. Whatever he can pick up—pine cones, pine needles, little pebbles and dirt. Oh man! It wasn't viciously thrown at us just hard enough to like, ow-ow you know back us up into the tent. The whole time he's screaming. He took one breath that I'm aware of one audible breath and it sounded like a 300 pound lung filling up. And then started screaming again. My ears are... it's painful! I mean, the decibels! I can't imagine the decibels coming out of this creature. It's just unfathomable and it seemed like this went on forever and we're just totally not wired to see this. I've got a little sliver of moon. I can't make out any definite facial features but I'm making out this silhouette of at least 10 foot tall

11:23 humanoid body and some hair. It had to be hair or some kind of suit or whatever, but you know someone was animating a 10-foot tall suit with loudspeakers just to scare us out in the middle of nowhere I don't think so. So anyway he did turn and walk and scream the whole way back until we couldn't hear him anymore So we got the next morning, we got up enough nerve and we got up around that cliff face and then got up top. And just as I thought he made a trail coming to us through the trees smashing anything in his way any limb, anything. And he made a trail on his way out and he went out a little bit of a different direction so he blazed trails up there big old limbs just smashed down. So I think we interrupted his nap during the day

12:16 Yeah, I really do. And I think he really wanted to make it clear he wasn't really pleased with us so from there that made dozens of other incidents over the years makes sense because I knew when we'd leave a camp and we come back and the salt-and-pepper shakers have been moved around and all the different things it would take hands to do mm-hmm and the different things you know I'm thinking in the back my mind this takes hands through this but I don't want to frighten the people that are out there with You know, so we gave we made up tag names. So all the weird stuff that happened in camp when we were gone out fishing for the whole day or whatever it was Ridge Bear I called it Ridge Bear Ridge Bear was back again and one of our friends his name is Brent We had a nickname for him Captain Canoe And whenever he would pack up his tent and leave after having been out there for some time Ridge bear would come and roll around where his tent was

13:12 And, you know, tear the earth up. You know? I'm like dude you better not be coming out here by yourself Ridgebearers after you! Samson was really rolling around enjoying getting his scent on them and all these things taken together now with this horrific thing that happened to us Make things make sense now isn't denial for a long time and we had a paddle club called northern arizona paddle club in outdoors canoeing kayaking club going to remote lakes and rivers and so forth i wouldn't talk about it for the longest time. I just it was so unnerving where wired, look at bears in the zoo or were you see monkeys and apes and things like that but this just were not wired to look at these things now

13:59 Years later, I've seen well over a dozen of these hairy hominids. If you put them in the police lineup, I could tell you where I was what i was doing and what they were doing and that's pretty much where we're at with that." Wow man! That is pretty wild. I can totally see how an experience like that would launch you down the path that you're on And now running this cryptid four corners group tons of people are coming forward to you with their strange encounters of all kinds And I think that's a big part of what prompted this show. It's another episode based on a listener request and he wanted me to have you on to discuss the cryptids that nobody will talk about, and i'm down to do that! If I guess if I had to guess what he meant by that, I'd assume he meant skinwalkers which I hear you talk about quite often and it's a fascinating thread pretty strange because they don't seem to fit into the typical cryptid categories but

14:54 Let me pass the baton over to you, my man. Give us a little background... Tell us what these skinwalkers are? Well, here's the thing too, and I talk with Linda Godfrey quite often. I love that dear lady and she's brought The Beast of Bray Road... Yeah we've had her on before too. She's great! She's got a bunch of wonderful books out there but you know, her and I are both in this same idea-wise category that we do have a separate something that I would call dogman or an upright walking canine for the most part in my opinion having interviewed and talked eyewitness thinks they are what they are all the time. They're not a shapeshifter, they're not a werewolf, they're not a skinwalker so we do have...if we're gonna get into a cryptid aspect I do believe there's a cryptid aspect to the upright walking canine that isn't associated with a werewolf or a were-animal or a shape shifter or skin walker. So I just want to make that clear and I would also say

15:56 With an upright walking dog entity, there would be at least 20 different possibilities at any given time and you'd have to go out and take everything on in a case-by-case basis. So going back to Skinwalker... You could've been sitting next to a skinwalker 9 o'clock Sunday morning at Sunday school and then nine o'clock Sunday night he shifts into his weir animal or the animal of his choice and there's a physical transformation that happens, and it's all very evil. To become a skinwalker Greg you have to bring in someone near and dear to you it has to be a sibling, a wife your mother not your mother-in-law sorry but you bring them in as a sacrifice if you don't bring them in dead they will kill them for you from there if some of the practicing shaman elders find the body pleasing

16:48 They're gonna practice a little bit of necrophilia. From there, you have to join them dining on some of the softer tissues of the body then from there they're gonna go on and make potions and powders and nothing's wasted. They'll make bone shards to shoot through their little blowguns and potions and powders and it's disgusting so anyway Greg you're in We let you get by with bringing in your mother-in-law as a sacrifice. Now, now you have to sign up and practice with the lead shaman and you have to wear the hide of the animal that you want to emulate whether it be a wolf or coyote, an elk, a bear... You're gonna be stuck in that hide for a long time trying to emulate this animal and you're gonna learn how this works and how this happens

17:38 So, you've got a human factor involved with this genre. And we've heard about so many different stories on the reservation where they like to go up on the roof and run around your roof and 90% of what I've investigated has been the upright wolf, eight or nine foot tall wolf appearance And it's not a hide, they can see the face muscles move and the jaw muscles move. I mean it would be $200,000 Hollywood stage mask animatronic you know? Eyeball to eyeball looking through windows and doors on windows things of that nature people have gotten some really close looks at these

18:28 horrific creatures. So... Stan... Wow! Is this like a cult within just certain Native American tribes? Marshall... Yes, because you've got a Wendigo and you've got a lot of different things and people like to put everything into an umbrella description so they can be comfortable with it but there's so many different possibilities out there with every situation There's so many different possibilities. So people with your umbrella description, well that there is one of them there dog-faced bigfoots! That's all it is!" You know and if you're comfortable with that that's fine and I'll leave you alone with that kind of belief system but we go deeper and where we want more answers We do because we're out in their field were boots on the ground. Were working with people almost on a daily basis

19:13 We want the answers, and we want protection for people who are being harassed by these witches. And typically—and I'll give you a little history here—before Bosque Redondo before Fort Sumner, the Navajos were rounded up and taken into incarceration for about four or five years. And eventually, they were let come back to the homeland here at different parcels and so forth kind of managed and here's some sheep in a plow knock yourself out. They got some really bad habits from the white man when they were incarcerated. The blue velvet they wear as a traditional dress for men like a blue velvet shirt and the women wear a blue velvet dress that kinda picked it up from the Calvary uniforms

20:00 And, you know, they always worked in silver but they learned...you know, jewelry's valuable. They picked up some bad habits and then they started eating the white man's flour that was not a good thing and probably only thing that came out of incarceration that was good is they did get a fondness for coffee. Well when I got back, the ones who still knew how to do it will still know how to shape-shift and become these animals, the ones who still practiced it. They started using it for evil, to go spy on the neighbors and go do this and go do that. And then eventually—I mean you know the hired contract killers if you will of the deep demonic dark world but once upon a time before incarceration they would send Skinwalker out to spy on the conquistadors when the Spanish were out here and try to figure out what they were going to do with their battle plan was what their attack was. They used to send skinwalkers out just by on the Calvary

21:01 You know, they might go out as a coyote or something that wouldn't be noticed. Or maybe a deer in the distance or something." They used to work with the Dene and now it's become just a great big crime syndicate as far as I'm concerned. Man, so it sounds so outside of the normal realm but it's a fascinating thread. I mean let's go into a couple of stories from the documentary if you could um... It's really interesting and I think one guy named Darren starts it off he has a pretty interesting encounter? Yeah! He was in town and got a call from his wife at that time and he was about 10 miles outside of town on all kinds of crazy dirt roads getting back to the reservation and he got there

21:47 And just as he pulled up, he saw this creature. I believe it was down on O'Forres when he first saw it and he jumped out—in fact, he forgot to put the vehicle in park and finally caught the vehicle, put it in park got up closer to this creature and it stood up! It had like crazy horns rolling around on a side of its head at like nine feet tall It sounds like sheep's quatch, doesn't it? Anyway he nailed it three times. Bam bam bam right around the heart area and he saw the dust puffs come off The creature was still able to leave the area He even saw it bound over a five-strand barbed wire fence And then go up into the mesa Didn't find any blood Couldn't discernible tracks I mean really couldn't... What is this?!

22:40 Now, he finds out two or three days later one of the medicine men died of a heart attack. Hmmmm... Coinkydink? I don't know! Or potential cryptid there, potential cryptid. I don't know. Stan. Right. Marshall. I don't know but you know we cover the stories, we talk to the people get their descriptions And go from there. I mean what else can you do and they're also seems to be an element of cosmic rules in play with some of these encounters right? Well, just like the upright walking wolf. This thing's eight or nine feet tall and the little girl is behind the door with a window this thing could tear the door off this thing could lift up their roof and grab the kids you know? There is something stopping it from being able to just come into the home and those dirty deeds...

23:37 Amelia, the girl I interviewed. Yeah her niece was getting hypnotized every time they would make eye contact Her niece was getting hypnotized and she's like slapping around wake up snap out of it you're being hypnotised And this little girl you know nine years old She did a great job and she kept this thing at bay in its screamed and banged on the doors and scratched down The walls went up on the roof to this little tap dance thing just a typical pattern behavior for for this type of genre But it had to be invited in. I think she came away with that too as if you, I guess the vampires invite me in! You have to so good for them and the cases where they do invite them and we probably will never hear about that. Stan... Right yeah who knows what would happen? Marshall... And here's another thing too Greg now that you're a skinwalker, you're fully initiated, you're out doing their dirty deeds, you have to bring in the rest of your family. Stan.. Oh man

24:37 to be a part of this. And if you don't, then they're going to become sacrifices so it's your choice. Stan... Damn! Now if I'm the skinwalker and I do this how long does this process last? Is this like uh, I'm a human by morning and then I'm an animal my choice by night? It'd probably be a mountain lion or something like that. Marshall....I am told when they send the skin walker out and we've talked to people who've seen the transformations or at least partial transformations without a ceremony, without anything going on. So obviously at some point you can will and emulate this your totem or whatever animal at some point in time you can will that and you don't need a ceremony I've been told all kinds of different things they'll stand the feather up in a basket as long as the feathers standing up everything's okay if the feather falls over something happened to one of your skinwalkers that you sent out and you need go find him

25:32 Because a lot of times they do get shot. You know, all these people thank God they fight back. They're not just cowering in the corner. I mean you know there needs to be some empowerment and these people do fight back sometimes but the unfortunate consequence and we've heard about this too and talked with situations where they shot The Wolf several times and then they heard somebody crying and it turned back into a person And that's the risk you take. So I mean, under the same circumstances that you would shoot a human being, I guess that's where you need to discern whether or not you're going to engage these

26:11 Marshall... Scary. Scary animals, I mean they look like animals but they walk upright. Stan... Yeah, another one that I thought was fascinating is this kid Clinton and I guess he was just playing video games then he looks out his window and there's something standing there that looks like Anubis, like a man with a dog's head, Doberman's face. Marshall... Yeah, just knocking on the door and he was just a little kid so we got a chair pushed it up to the door stood upon the chair and he's looking through the glass window through the door at Anubis! I go, what did you think it was? He said well at first and I'm just a little kid. I thought it was a kangaroo You know but later I'm thinking you know that was Anubis And he could see an upright standing canine outside of his door knocking on his door Thank God he didn't open the door

27:01 Is there a weird pattern of these skinwalkers targeting kids? The thing being with all the hocus-pocus mumbo jumbo and the witchy poo stuff that is going on in reservation, it used to be you could get good medicine and good medicine men who used herbs and things from God's green earth to cure your cough. To help your bronchitis. To ease your arthritis I mean... There was good medicine! I know because I've abused it And more and more it's getting away from good medicine and herbs, and everything is curses now. Oh! Somebody put a curse on you. Pay me and I'll lift the curse." You're paying some guy to lift the curse off of you? He was probably the one that was paid to put it on you in the first place. So, I mean... It's getting really sad about not there being just no good medicine out there. They've been doing a purge of the good medicinemen, and this has been going for years

27:56 They've been doing a purge. If you don't join up with these guys, they'll get rid of you." Stan... Yeah. Marshall... If you're out there just practicing good God's green earth natural healing medicine and you're not hooked up with the hocus-pocus, they're gonna come after you. Stan... Right yeah I guess the only medicine left is this dark occult weird shape shifting stuff but what i don't get about all the stories is it seems to be relatively young people who are encountering them What do they want with kids? More sacrifice. Marshall Oh, they're paid to who knows I mean number one they've been paid to go out and do something heinous or harass somebody or assassinate somebody and they've been paid to do it. Stan Yeah you just a Native American would just go to the elder in the tribe the guy who... Marshall Not necessarily, you got to find a witch and these witches aren't real open about it because there are those of the Diné Navajo who hunt down

28:53 Those who practice this, they've given up all their rights as a human being. Man, yeah. It's definitely strange and very negative Let me ask you a real strange question JC sure I got to ask it We have these people shape-shifting into animal like creatures through a ritual process that involves human sacrifice Have you ever thought about? A connection between that and say the type of magic that we hear about on a conspiracy show with a global elite where we hear About reptilian shapeshifters might they be experimenting with a similar process And you know, that's all very viable. It is all very viable but I do believe we probably have some races of reptilians that are

29:32 Mostly stuck on this little blue marble with us and they've been here for a very long time And you know, they can't go shopping at Kmart Right right and a lot of the stuff I mean You know They they under the cover of darkness we're gonna find them out about doing their business whether there be nine or evil or otherwise They can't come out and stroll down the aisles of Walmart without attracting some kind of attention. So, I mean they do have a secluded way of living or existence if you will whether they're evil good benign or otherwise and by appearance i'm not gonna just say something's evil right now i haven't heard any nice mushy gushy stories about reptilians or anything that

30:17 that nature or alien greys or anything like that. I don't have any lovey-dovey, mushy-gushy stories for you. I've got people who've gone up and been taken out by these black eyed bastards since they were little kids and I get to hear the stories and I get to kind of do a therapy thing with them in some cases they need to be regressed and go back to their abductions, and it's horrible. It's absolutely horrible what goes on when you go up or out whatever it is however it is you get inside of their craft or facilities whatever it may be and once you become their pet they start an experiment with you They're gonna keep coming back and checking on you till they're done with her experiment

31:03 or whatever it is they're doing with you. If they're implanting embryos into your uterus and they knock you out, a few months later knock you out again take you back up and remove the embryo and grow it in a laboratory... These are all viable situations and these people are normal people everyday people holding down nine to five jobs things of that nature don't want attention they just want to talk to somebody And these things are going on. There's a lot of wicked, wicked, wicked evil things going on. So let me ask you another question about Skinwalkers have you had any people come to you with interesting encounters that didn't make it into that documentary I saw or things that you might have heard after the film was already made? Well actually that documentary came out in 2008 and anybody out there listening if if I know you're a real person

31:58 Send me an email and I will happily share the link with you so you can watch it. Not a problem, it's just there are some photos in there that have not been released and I don't want them being snapped up and shared on Facebook or Twitter... If you're real person send me an email, I'll get you a link to the documentary Standard and it's definitely worth a watch. And I guess it has become more popular or you've definitely been more popular since you have been going out there and talking about this stuff, are people now coming to you with super modern experiences with skinwalkers? Or some kind of beings like that? Marshall Continuously! And we don't want to put the umbrella description on skinwalker. You know if its person who shifted into an animal, will keep that

32:46 But the night stalker, this for all intents and purposes is a glider gargoyle type creature. The night stalker? The night stalker Where's this found at? Out here in New Mexico And his family was being terrorized by... This thing would come and bang on the window, bang on the walls We found three clawed prints I think that's what it After it lands It was landing in a cornfield we finally figured that out that he was gliding in, they were gliding in and crash landing on the cornfield. I don't think they're real graceful something eight or nine feet tall dropping into your cornfield is probably not a real graceful landing so they were knocking the corn down in three and four directions and then Chief Dan tracked them out of the corn fields yeah the big one goes up to the window and two little ones stay in the field And he was talking about this gargoyle kind of thing there wasn't even a name in Navajo for it

33:43 He said, they've been around these things have been around for about 100 years. It's nothing in Navajo folklore or anything like that it's just something that's been around for stories he's heard for about 100 years now and there's been other sightings of this and interesting enough the The face of this creature looks like the dude from Jeepers Creeper. Is it a tall pod? Did we do it tall there but you know, it's about 100 years of stories according to Leonard so I'll take him at that. Stan... Right yeah maybe they're coming around more often because we've manifested that thought form with those movies.

34:22 Marshall Cunningham Well, I was hoping we had a pterodactyl kind of situation or something of that nature and unfortunately no. Stan That's what I'm fascinated with the stories of pterodactyls are dinosaurs in modern times how often does this come up? Marshall Cunningham A couple times a month I'll get some kind of inquiry somebody say I saw this and not really sure what happened but one of our crew A few weeks ago, we had a really rough storm pass through. Didn't dump a lot of moisture but we had 60-70 mile per hour winds overnight and that's kind of unusual usually the sun goes down the wind dies down even with a storm system but this was a windy thing and one of our crew came out of his house and this thing jumped off his roof

35:08 At least a five-foot long torso, five foot tall torso. And he can't even guess the size of the wings when it jumped off his house but it was leathery wings and you know maybe 15 16 foot wing span just huge when I took off And being a glider, 50-60-70 mile an hour wind gusts. That's when you go out and party because you don't have to climb up to a high place and get up on a huge rock face and jump off to launch yourself. You've got little assistance from the wind so that same night the Night Stalker family had another visit

35:51 Man just a few miles away. So it kind of makes you scratch your head is the night stalker pack, right? And on the subject of dinosaur like creatures I heard I've heard you mention Just kind of in passing sightings of some type of brontosaurus light creature Can you give us some details on that that was up by Moab those open boy. I mean it's like a mini Brontosaurus and But, you know about eight feet long body-wise with the tail and then the long neck like a mini brontosaurus. Now it might have been a baby. Might've been a baby brontosaurus but we've got most of the reports they call them the mini T rexes and those are up along the Animas River going into Colorado Cortez area on down even into the Farmington area and then it's

36:44 The mini T-Rexes are seen on the Navajo reservation also, but near rivers and near water sources. Really? And they've been seen three and four together. Man! They're about four or five feet tall I'm thinking more along the lines of a Velociraptor perhaps but there's a long history of the mini T-Rex out here you can google it Man, if we... Adamuckle You know, we've talked to people who have seen them cross the road. It's usually road crossings and then we talk to people just accidentally walked right up on one of them and had him turn around and get screamed at or whatever run. So it's a common thing. Something shared among the Navajo and Caucasian people out here so it's a multi-

37:29 multi-sighting situation. Stan... Yeah, I heard something from Native American legend that if you spot one of these mini T-Rex's they can turn you to stone. Marshall You turn the stone! If you see snake woman your heart stops or you're turned to stone. Stan Like a Medusa? Marshall Yeah there is a consequence for every weird thing you see out here so most of your older Dene, if they're a little more on the side of superstition don't look at these things. They don't make eye contact with weird stuff that looked the other way because there's a consequence with seeing something like that whereas young people are like I saw this stuff and I didn't turn to stone and I wanna know what the hell it is you know so we're getting away from a lot of the hocus-pocus

38:14 and we're getting into the raw realities that there's stuff out there we can't explain that we need to look into. Right, seeing some dinosaur? That would be pretty amazing! Pretty high up on my list would be something like that. There was a university of not sure which one it was but they'd come out in one of our old contacts out there by Newcombe, New Mexico on the reservation His home site lease where he's running some cattle and some sheep, he's got excellent preserved fossilized prints. A nice two track way line And this universe came out, a bunch of paleontologists students and the professor. And they knocked on his door, hey Harvey! Yeah we're back, we were here last year well we brought you a subway and here's some water and you can come watch us again if you like and thank you so much for having us back. And he goes how does those old rock prints? You want to see some fresh ones?! And they took him down in the wash and it had recent rain and this giant lizard as he calls it had come through the day before

39:20 and the prints were identical to what was fossilized up in the rocks, only bigger. At least a mile long trackway." What did they end up casting? The fossilized prints... Stan And no! Marshall You've got philosophical paleontology, philosophical archaeology, philosophical humanology I mean… Stan They left the fresh ones alone. Marshall Yeah. I'm sure some of the kids got some cell phone pictures and got called liars when they came home but You know, when stuff gets out of the box and out of the book people get really uncomfortable especially in these science-minded things where they won't look outside of the box. And that's why I work with unconventional archaeologists, unconventional anthropologist professors you know? That's the guys I work with and the same thing with botanists and geologists, unconventional. That's who I work with.

40:19 The theological eggheads, you know I think we lost about a cup of coffee and then I'm walking out the door. So see ya buddy! Have a good time! Stay inside your book please don't look outside your book or your box stay inside your box too there's so much out there but nobody wants to ridicule being the guy that found this or brings this up the suppression of information and we can thank Smithsonian for a lot of that because they've been hiding giant skeletons in the basement or dumping them in the ocean for since their inception. Right, we've been hearing so much more about the Smithsonian Oh yeah That's the original CIA and they went from hand to hand to hand and eventually Smithsonian becomes a government institute that's who is behind it And anytime you read about a giant skeleton being found Farmer McGregor found a 12 foot long skeleton while plowing his field

41:19 And blah, blah, blah. And representatives from Smithsonian are on their way out to see him." And then you never hear about it again. And I'm told there's probably over 300 giant skeletons down in the basements of Smithsonian And we've talked to people who have been allowed to go down there but they're not allowed to take photos, but they can examine some of it. If it doesn't fit into their narrative and their timeline and the way everything is in their neat little box then make it go away. Stan. Wow! So, the people who you know have gone down there... Have they told you what they've seen? Anything more detailed than just giant skeletons? Marshall That's pretty much it. Pretty much it. Stan Man I've also heard that

42:00 And I, this hasn't been substantiated but i've heard that out on Catalina Island the Wrigley family of the Wrigley Gum Fortune used to fund a museum out there before it got shut down in the 1930s. Apparently there's a lot of giant skeletons out on that island We think so, but we're not sure because there's a new show on I believe it's on history and these two brothers are looking for giants and forgive me. I've only got to catch one episode But they exposed this guy that went out through the museum he dug up everything And he put all these bones on display and skulls, and they didn't like the way he handled these remains. There was digs all over Catalina Island from before the turn of this century so... They didn't come up with anything solid there? So I don't know! I'm kind of divided on that.

42:53 Opening up a bone freak show on Catalina Island and we don't see any real substantial large femurs or skulls or anything about nature so I couldn't tell you. And these brothers are passionate about finding giants, they really Well, do you think networks like Discovery or History can be trusted? Or would they be just an extension of – just a modern extension of that Smithsonian type of pseudo-organization that really just wants to hide things. I get really disappointed when people get drawn into scripted crypto fiction with television and there are some programs out there that are scripted crypto fiction.

43:37 That was fake! Those are paid actors. There's not a doctor, scientist or PhD among them. They were paid actors, mermaids and then mermaids the body found or whatever... Fake! And this guy that was supposed to be getting swallowed by a giant anaconda So I guess the president of sci-fi has come out and said no more BS so we will see But scripted crypto fiction, even if they go into some of the genre a little bit. Even have some real eyewitnesses tell their stories and so forth... Some of these programs I'm not picking on finding Bigfoot because they don't find anything but I'm picking out some other programs that find something in every program get a game cam picture footprints you know everything

44:24 Scripted, crypto fiction. So I mean look read between the lines boys and girls There's very few programs out there that are following along with actual investigations Right well let's talk a little bit more about some of the things people are seeing there's also I guess A lot of reports of little two to three foot tall people can you give us some description into some of those encounters? I've had more reports of them being 18 to 24 inches tall Wow, that's even smaller. That's even smaller and typically they're in one of the reports is this young lady they got their vehicle stuck there was a convenience store a few miles away and she was gonna climb down this hill hitch her out at the convenience store she didn't have a cell phone and call someone to come pull them up on her way down She stopped to look and there was in full traditional dress from like the 1950s A Navajo couple And they were in like their late 40s early 50s

45:23 And the woman was in a blue velvet dress, she had concho belt on silver concho belt jewelry all over the place hair up in a bun. The gentleman had black cowboy hat on black vest blue velvet shirt blue jeans and cowboy boots 18 inches tall and she looked at me They stared at each other for a while and she didn't feel anything evil or good, but they were just kind of scowling at her when she took off. And in that same bluff area we've got more reports of little people and along the river more reports of little people."

46:01 Man see sometimes with those stories it seems like there's an association With them coming around every so often or some type of food or gift exchange. Do you see much of that? Yeah, in fact I'm gonna get to interview this lady eventually she's a hundred. I think she's 104 She lives out on the reservation. She's been feeding little people for years and She's got a, she went and bought a barbie tea set or something I guess. I don't know and she's got a table and she cuts up the watermelon in tiny little pieces and cuts the food up in tiny little pieces and leaves it out for the little people. And sometimes they they do not come in while she is ready to serve them. They come in later but they leave her pouches of herbs and leave her pouches of tobacco

46:46 And she takes herbs and smokes the tobacco. Yeah, I'm told she's healthy as a horse for being 104 years old so she has a relationship with these little people now i'm told by chief dan leonard once you start feeding them don't stop they'll get ya man 104 you gotta get out there man I'm gonna go try some of that tobacco. Yeah, there you go But we've had other cases where you know There's just not a pleasant feeling around these little people ranch up in Utah this You know this guy said I'd be sitting there drinking my breakfast coffee and they'd be Sitting up on the window sill outside the one who just looking at me

47:26 Really? And he was with a Navajo lady at the time. They said, don't mess with him Don't look at him for very long But you know He did a little more investigating he found holes in the ground where they were coming out of he found holes on the walls Where they're getting into his house holes in the barn where there is just coming and going as they pleased And he couldn't wait to get out of there. So uncomfortable Do you think there's some type of? ancient history between these creatures and some of these tribes To where they don't mind being around the tribes as much as they would say a modern population well, if there were a situation Of you know it's not homo florensis or anything like that These are totally

48:10 Weird. I mean, 12 to 18 inches tall we don't have in anything in the fossil record human wise as far as a race of Lilliputians or whatever so it's gotta be something somewhat otherworldly that would be my opinion now if they were helpless little eighteen inch tall people and they were benign I'd be out there feeding them I don't think it's a good idea. Stan... There are some kind of spiritual thing and that comes up- Marshall... They're in the flesh, they're in the flesh and the stuff that comes in the flesh fascinates us. Stan... Right but that's weird there must be some kind of spiritual component to it? Marshall Potentially, potentially but they have to eat, they have to eat. So you know, they require calories, they're in our sphere or plane of existence as you will if you will

49:03 So, there's something going on with that. I can't you know we can have conjecture till we turn blue. Stan... Yeah, i think there's some similar described in that documentary of somebody who sees some type of elemental or something he calls a water baby that's kind of in the same line pretty interesting one as well. James... Yeah, Calvin, our Ute tracker, the water babies are up on the Ute reservation up near Ignacio and they've been sighted there's a swimming hole on this river that people frequent during the bear dances. And that's when they've had these sightings, they look like Cousin It and they're about two or three feet tall

49:42 but they're covered in moss and they have some kind of locomotion because they're able to walk along the rocks at least it appears they're walking along the rocks and then they jump in the water. And then you come back out of the water get back up on the rocks, and jump in the water again as if they're playing having a good time...and they make sounds like little babies. That's why they call them Water Babies. If we get permission from The Tribe! ...And The Ute Tribes are rather rough and tough to get inside of nearly impossible. So, we could have you just go up there and get them some cameras and people that we've worked with and potentially trained with and have them stake it out if they could do that but for me to go up there I have to have a crossing permit and it's just everything stacked against you in the unit there also treat the Bigfoot like a retarded brother or something

50:38 They've got a long history with the prairie people up there also. Do you think that some of the Native American tribes are using, like you said, you'd have to get all these permits to get up there? Are they blocking off these areas where we're finding these anomalous creatures on purpose? I would think more with a ute, they've got world-class elk and elk populations up there. And they want to pretty much exclusively have that going on for their tribe and I understand that you know? They've got quite a few tags that they can get each family. They get a lot of elk and a lot of deer every year and they want to preserve that

51:16 for the tribe, and I understand that. That's fine and you were smart too early on getting a lot of the oil leases when the white man came in started drilling oil they raised hell and they got a bigger chunk of the oil reserve monies coming back in the mineral rights coming back so they did well on that end to there are little more prosperous than most of your tribes Because they dug their toes and they fought. No, we're not going to take 3%. You're gonna give us half! You want to oil or not? So, you know I respect that. But it's very difficult being Caucasian to freely roam up there if not nearly impossible. Stan. I got it yeah well do you find other cases where areas of high activity are inaccessible because they're on government land or behind some fences or anything like that? James There's a lot of places around Albuquerque and my good friend Robert Crider this lady

52:21 was down in the parking lot below one of these parks, and this rock came from nowhere and smashed her head in. Now had she died it would have been ruled some kind of freak accident blah blah blah... The woman lived and told what happened And they closed that part of the park for a long time I believe this is in the Sandia Mountains and there are many reports of the furry people up in that area. So yes, they do close places off there is a cover-up there has been a cover of the government has had bodies and roadkill and forced burn creatures for years if perhaps not even live capture for years There's something about these creatures They don't want us to know I wonder what it is? I wonder if this dove tails into some Disappearances and national parks times where people disappear and then they're found like miles later They shouldn't be able to get that far. I wonder if there's involvement there

53:15 Well, especially the children. If you ever get the opportunity do have Dave Pilates on? We have yeah he's great Very passionate about his work I have a lot of respect for his work and what he is doing and trying to bring awareness to all these mysterious disappearances in the parks He sent me a copy of this western edition 411 And I could only go a few pages at a time, I'd have to put the book down. It's so disturbing and especially the children. Now, I tell you, a lot of times if you've got 150 searchers combing an area, you've got a family of three people there and they know that this guy died of hypothermia or something, they want you to go away, they want the searchers to go away. I think a lot of times when they've covered a grid or a trail

54:02 20 times and then come back and suddenly stumble onto a body right on the trail I think that's probably the furry people carrying this guy out. So they'll find him go away That might be part of the case But then again, I would say with our experience when we've got rogue males And sometimes the rogue males all get together and they form a little alliance if you will that isn't always a good thing And if they're outside of the societal situations of the furry people, the Bigfoot. They could be a problem they could be a real problem. And maybe we should just address that real quick, the term furry people instead of using the term bigfoots because there was a recent DNA analysis that came back with some interesting results that might be the reason why we're seeing people starting to use the term furry people rather than Sasquatch? Well, the First Nations People they all have different names for these creatures and they've had long relationships with them whether they'd be good or bad for many years but

55:03 I tend to use furry people and when I started using them, it was just learning more about them. Learning that they actually do have a culture early on that you know...they act more like not...I wouldn't even say primitive people because they use what they have There's something going on with them, you know. They want to come sit next to Greg on the couch and watch a chick flick. They can't there is a separation now and there is probably a reason for that separation but early on what Dr. Melba's whole genome study which we were involved with for five years

55:43 The mitochondrial DNA on the blood samples and the skin, and the hair samples in a saliva. The mitochondrial DNA which is your original mother! Your ancestral mother. They were coming back as modern humans. We had Jewish ancestry, Asian ancestry I believe Native American ancestry, Germanic ancestry these are modern humans coming back into the mitochondrial DNA these are non-human hairs Some of them without a medulla, testing back with human mitochondrials. Stan Mallow That's strange. Darrell Bock Yes and then when you get into the whole genome and the whole genome is your progenitor or your daddy who is your daddy? Who was your original ancestral daddy there's nothing in GenBank

56:35 We've got billions and billions and billions of pairs of everything that walks, talks poops on this little blue marble in GenBank. There was nothing in GenBank so this is something completely unknown That is so wild, but it isn't really that hard to believe because we have a lot of ancient stories of some unknown being or alien being mating with human women. It's always the human women that bear these half breeds and now there's something out there that shows that in the DNA and we still don't know what it is, I mean it kind of fits that pattern. Pete Well if you could go back to the real story of Noah and you're gonna find a lot more about the real story of Noah in the book of Enoch, in the book of Jasher, in the Book of Jubilees… And I would look upon them as historical account because for the most part these historical writings did not become fully accepted scripture

57:30 Most of them were thrown out or added as addendums. Pete Right, the forbidden Gospels. Darrell Especially the book of Enoch. The book of Enoch is the man behind the scenes. Enoch walks religiously with God for 365 years and one day God says you know what, Enoch? We're closer to my house than your house. Why don't you come home with me?" So, Enoch has risen! He doesn't have to know death and he's transformed if you would, and he can pass in and out of portals. And he talks about it. And we've also got writings from Noah in the book of Enoch. I find it very fascinating, but it was banned from the canon of Scripture and became heresy if you read it. So essentially what happens in the book of Enoch is J.C. Johnson and Greg did these horrible heinous things, and they were recorded in a book—and

58:22 Thousands of years later, we'd want that book to go away wouldn't we? Right. Of course! And that's what happens with the Book of Enoch. You've got Azazel and all these other Watchers and the Watchers were the most trusted of God. Hey keep an eye on my kids, my creation I'm working on some other projects...I'll check in with you guys Hang loose catch ya later Well y'know In Gods absence these guys they made a plan They made a plot to take these earth women, as many as they wanted. As wives! And they made a pact and you combine angelic DNA with us I think angelic DNA can probably combine with anything. And they had freaks and giants it's talked about in Genesis 6 it's talked about a lot more than the book of Enoch. These giants

59:21 Well, you know we've got two separation stories and I want to make this really clear. To say fallen angels yes eventual the eventuality of this occupation yes they became fallen angels but at the time they were the most trusted of God 200 250 of them We have another incident where we've got a third of heaven coming down with the angel of light Lucifer That's another separation story. People combine the two and mix it up, tell the story for what it is, tell the historical account for what it is so don't mess up the two! So that's futile. There are just some of them there, they're all demons… No, know the story. Know the story. The most trusted of God left here to keep an eye on us

1:00:08 And they couldn't keep their thingy in their robes, okay? So that's... Touche. Touche! And that's where we end up with it and they send Enoch up. Enoch kind of buds with these dudes. Enoch is fastened in between the portals and you know he goes up with a petition because they'd come from the presence of a living loving God and he goes up with a petition They're asking for forgiveness. They're gonna cease and desist and try to fix things. Enoch comes back with some really bad news And once they get this bad news, we read about in the book of Jasher and the book of Jubilees. They go on to further Sinaitic creation and combine their DNA with fish and fowl and other things. They're gonna screw up everything! They're gonna screw up all of creation. So, the real story of Noah is so fascinating because we've got…let's put Enoch in as your first player. His son is Methuselah. Methuselah's son is Lamech

1:01:06 Lamech has this baby born, and when he opens his eyes the room lights up. And he's got white hair. And this is during the time where we had all of this angelic love or whatever it is going on. So Lamech was very concerned about this. He gets ahold of his dad Methuselah. Methuselah knows where to find Enoch And he goes to Enoch, and says there's this baby who was born with white hair. And when he opened his eyes the room lights up and we're afraid it's an angelic impregnating type situation! So Enoch goes up and talks to God. When Enoch comes back He says, raise him as your own. He doesn't say it's Lamech's kid

1:01:51 essentially, but to raise him as his own. Stan. Yeah. Marshall. He has a very special job to do. Do you know what that baby's name was? Stan. No. Marshall. Noah. Stan. Interesting. Marshall. So we've got another infusion of DNA as far as I'm concerned with this Noah And he lived quite a long time. And what happens, you know the sons of the fallen if you will in Ephelim they lived for a long time so successive generations knew about this guy or that guy whatever god deity they claimed to be while they ruled over us barbarically and viciously They lived a long time The sons of the fallen lived for a very long time and this went on for quite awhile until the flood

1:02:40 Hopefully was to wipe out everything all those crazy creatures that they had made from their blending DNA Yeah, you know you go to Sunday school and then Noah he got 12 each kind of animal to put him on the ark No no I had to find two uncorrupted of each kind of the animals because the watches went on to combine their DNA with anything they could combine DNA with. So we're getting about to wrap up this thing. And like I said, this person who asked me to have you on the show and I'm glad he did it's been a lot of fun. Uh, he wanted me to have you on to talk about the cryptids no one would talk about kind of alluded to the fact that there was some type of coverup or a lot of people in media don't want to talk about a certain type of cryptid uh, we kinda ran the gambit. Do you think we'd touch on all those different types of beans? I think we got into about 20%.

1:03:43 Right about in there. Let me tell you, everybody something all these things if they could the powers that be if they could catch it cage it cuff it and beat it down we don't know about it they have no control over most of these things that's why you don't know about them yeah Man, would you say there's a type of being that you hear about the least amount that you would introduce some people to? I've got kind of a fascination with these leathery winged gargoyle things. I would harvest one

1:04:22 I would harvest one. And if, you know, Monsters and Mysteries in America the Desert Wastelands episode we cover that The Night Stalker we cover that this guy if I'd have been the father and come across it I would have shot at it too because something treating Innocent people that way needs whacking. And there's some stuff out there, the giant snakes I don't have to catch one gonna whack one. I've gotta bring this genus in and have it tested then I'll have to get another one but there's a lot of stuff out there on our whacking list. The hooded shrouded lizards they need whacking and it'd be brought in their very violent very vicious. The mini-T rex is obviously breeding populations of most of this stuff. The pterosaurs, the pterodactyls, the pterotaurins

1:05:10 There's breeding populations, isolated. But they're out there we've seen California condors in the wild that weren't tagged or marked wearing collars. There's isolated breeding populations still hardwired to do what they're hardware to do it's out there Stan... Wow, I would kill to see something like that man. I would love to experience some kind of mini T-Rex or dinosaur like creature that would be something across off the bucket list for sure. Marshall And we've got neurotoxin lizards that crawl up under your clothing and they just attach themselves to you and they release a neurotoxin only takes two or three of them and then you fall down and then the whole pack comes in they eat you at their leisure because you're done.

1:05:53 All right, well maybe we'll stay away from that. But it would be cool to see something man! Well it is about that time JC thanks so much for doing this show with me before we go do you want to let the people know again how they can check out some of your investigations and follow what you're doing? Yeah I've probably still got quite a few friends I could add on Facebook you can find me there definitely go to jcjohnsonchannel at youtube And right now everything we've got there other than shared content with YouTube is commercial free, come check it out. Cost you nothing. Nice! Well again thanks for doing this man definitely you guys need to go check out JC's stuff it's pretty fascinating a fresh take on a lot of

1:06:36 stuff that we just don't hear about as much anymore and a lot of new stuff. We hear about all this old, these old stories but JC's got some pretty recent stuff and it's reignited my interest in cryptozoology and anomalous creatures I think you guys would agree yeah thanks so much for doing this man hopefully someday i can meet out on the field but until then keep up the great work and stay safe Absolute pleasure, God bless you all. Alright man Powerful JC Johnson there it is my weekly offering laid upon the digital altar to the people enjoy it weird stuff But I also love a good show about strangeness in the world and this month We've gone from calling out Congress with Jen Briney to examining the banking world with Ellen Browne To the Illuminati infiltration of masonry with Frater X

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