Howdie Mickoski | Reality Resets, NPC’s Among Us, & The Soul Recycling Trap

00:00 These days, so many podcast hosts just riff through unprepared segments until they get to the next ad break for pills they know nothing about cheap razors and whatever else they can get a buck from. But The Hiresite Chats does it differently! We succeed or fail on the quality of content and your desire to hear more of it So you're about to hear another free first hour episode. It's here to prove the two-hour shows are worth subscribing for five shows a month for just $8

00:38 Members get a mobile friendly website, a decade of archives, a dedicated RSS feed for the best podcast apps and a lot deeper discussion that a single hour can allow for. Sponsor free with more for thee! Get a free seven day trial of THC Plus at TheHigherSideChats.com Enjoy In the 1930s, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt addressed the nation through a series of radio broadcast known as the Fireside Chats. His aim was to reassure the common man that society would recover from its troubled times. From 1930 and I deal with a different kind of fire For a new era of worldly frustration we offer a- I'm Greg Carlwood These are The Hireside Chats

01:36 Yes, good people of the internet. How we doing out there from sunny San Diego? I'm Greg Carlwood and it's a confusing thing just how numb passive ignorant and uncurious people tend to be today Rarely pondering the deeper questions of what human life even is yet being able to rattle off a minutiae of meaningless NFL statistics Spending their entire lifetime in baseline consciousness total mind capture without any sense of adventure or exploration between the daily grind and the nightly news. Knowing we have mysterious monolithic sites and pyramids from an ancient age that puzzle the professionals even today, but assuming there must not be much more to know as to not interfere with their detective work as to who might be revealed is the next masked singer

02:22 It's as if a string of pointless, redundant distractions and stressful soulless obligations keep the majority of the herd from doing anything but trying to get through the next day. But the work and life story of today's guest Howdy Mikoski can provide the best medicine for the mundane mental mind rut many might be experiencing. Because he found himself depressed and unfulfilled at the ripe old age of 28, but after having come across a program that took a deeper dive into The Great Pyramids, he decided to dedicate his energy to studying the ancient world And a deeper examination of Egypt spiraled out into time spent with the Korean Zen monk, Native American medicine men, a doctor of medical qigong herbalists and alchemists. He spent his time traveling to locations he studied and chronicled his work in his first book The Power Of Then revealing Egypt's lost wisdom At 36 he fell into a canyon in Western Canada and had near death experience that revealed the false covering of oneself and reality

03:22 which led him to study Gnostic and Hermetic teachings, and explore the challenges of dealing with an awakening. Which came to be put in the pages of his second book Falling for Truth as well as inspiring his newest book which certainly kicked it up a level Exit The Cave Ending The Reincarnation Trap But throughout his travels and examinations, Howdy started to see a lot of holes in the historic narrative and conventional timeline. From Gothic cathedrals in the Knights Templar to exotic energy technologies and the world's fairs... much of which is in his book Exposing The Expositions You can find him getting into all this stuff and more on his YouTube channel HowdyMakoskyTalks, as well as his website EgyptianWisdomRevealed.com and I am psyched to get into it! The dedicated Deep Diver, Exposition, Exposer & Death Trap Detective, howdy welcome to the higher side

04:12 It is good to be here and that sounds like you know me better than I know myself. I tried, i try to be informed and this is going to be great because your work hits on several high notes in the alternative research world that I love to talk about And it might be the first interview to come out of a voicemail that you left me, which we generally use for audience insights. But it seems that we both have had some mutual fans try to get us together and I'm glad we're here. I also think your story is so important depressed at 28 much around the same time I started this show as a desperate attempt to bring something fulfilling into my life

04:53 But you dedicated yourself to a study of your interests, you traveled those places. You formed relationships with some really interesting people and now you're putting out your fourth book and have tens of thousands of people following your work And it seems like you really did forge a self-directed path and I think that's something many people could learn from Thanks. It's been a very, in one sense rewarding 25 years or so and it's been a very challenging 25 years of course and we can talk about both sides of it there has been a lot of pain along with the joys where would you like to start? Where would you like me to begin my sharing with you

05:36 Sure, well I thought before we got into the latest book that we could talk about some of the work you've done along the way. When you started studying ancient Egypt what were some of the first real mind blowers that made you dive in to such a degree that you wrote a whole book on it? Well of course I grew up as sort of a pretty simplistic normal person. I grew up as a hockey player in Canada, semi stand-up comedian for 12 years most people don't know that and yeah had some difficult tragedies though early in my life. My father was a psychopath and stole all my money just as I was going into my last year at university and pretty much made it very very difficult to finish my university degree. I did came out with the history but it was very tough

06:20 And then just after university ended, my ex-girlfriend was murdered. And the combination of these two experiences on me... It started at the beginning of sending me into a very depressed spiral but it was a depressed spiral trying to answer questions that I was realizing that the way the world had been presented to me which was how you were supposed to live didn't actually match the experiences now of the trauma in the world. So I was already in this turmoil and when I reached the height of my depression, early 1997 and it was actually at a point where I wanted to kill myself. I just couldn't think of a good way to do that wouldn't be messy for the person having defined it. And I was in this state right around my birthday and television program came on Nova pyramid building program

07:12 And it was like instantaneous almost universal setup if you can put it that way and it was like, i knew thats what i had to put my focus on there is a secret in ancient egypt. And i had to go track down not so much necessarily to fix the world or healer but i just needed to know for myself and i got really lucky at the beginning because While I had a history degree, I didn't have an archaeological background. So I was free to explore and one of the first books that happened to take out of the library was John Anthony West's Serpent in the Sky. And as soon as I read Serpent in the Sky which put me into Schwaller de Lubitz' ideas around the temples at Karnak and Luxor it was... That in itself was the immediate mind-blowing experience It showed me that its obvious the standard story that archaeology and Egyptology had with was incorrect

08:04 This was further of course realize once i got to geese and dash or into. I will see you except for a good seed the stones and see that cuts in c the carving and see the quality of the work that is impossible with the supposed stone tool and copper tools and that's where it started began the combination of a whole new potential way of seeing the ancient world combined with once you start seeing the actual pieces that are on the ground still existing, it starts moving you in a new direction and that's what I tried to do in the research then. Yeah, one thing I've pulled out of previous conversations where you talked about this a little bit is you had said that you were told what's below the Giza Plateau is more exciting and important than what's on the surface. And I'm always intrigued by the wild stuff we find underground and it seems to be no exception in the Giza Plateau? No, those are two stories. One was a gentleman that I met

09:03 sort of like my local keeper of knowledge who on the first day i was ever at the plateau we made a deal and he took me into underground caverns all throughout the plateau sort of more between the sphinx, end the country pyramid in that area is these. Very deep long shaft very difficult to go down there was smaller underground temple that you showed me but he was very clear that this is only a minor piece of it and I can't show you much more. This is all that I can show you of it." Okay, fast forward to my next trip and I was walking kind of in the same area. It's going a little bit further and there were two soldiers standing there which is very rare. You never see soldier on the Giza Plateau but I know how to talk no matter who it is on the plateau and what...I've learned some Arabic and I know what to say do not have people

09:57 cause me any problems when they're in a sense i got a little closer to pull up rifles and point them at me and made it very clear i better back off, when i got the looks or and talk to a friend of mine down there who has quite good knowledge what's going on behind the scenes in in cairo told me that. It was his understanding that I had walked into the exact same time that the members of the government were down in a shaft on the Giza Plateau and claiming to have found a time travel device. That the ancient Egyptians had or we call it pre-Egyptians had and what was going on apparently i guess right at that moment when i was there is they were trying to make a decision do they try to test the device in the place where it is not moving or did he tried to move it, choose the cairo museum are some other safe place where they access somewhere else we're having this big discussion should be moved this time travel device or not.

10:51 And given the experience I had on the plateau and how strange the whole day was, I'm leaning to that was probably a very true piece of information I got. Wow, well we are in it now. It doesn't get much stranger than that but the idea that there's a lot of stuff beneath the Giza Plateau and that you were able to talk your way into seeing some of it jives with what I've heard from your stories looking into Gothic cathedrals across Europe that if you approach people the right way come in with the right energy, sometimes they'll take you to see things. And you've seen the basement of old cathedrals under the crypts and you've said that typically these cathedrals were all built on previous temples, temples of Isis and Diana. It seems like you've gotten a pretty good look at some of that stuff too, right?

11:48 As good as i think somebody who's not completely interconnected with the system can get and it's a combination i guess so asking the right way and. It also being confident to ask a lot of times doors will open to you but so many people are just afraid to ask that question and i know that When i'm on the search it's just ask if I get rejected find a get rejected but don't walk away saying i wish i had asked they wished i checked i wish i gone there. And when you get down to some of these cathedrals unfortunately couldn't get down in chartreuse tried really hard and i was in chartreuse but i can get down there, what is some of the other european cathedrals when your in the basement, you still often have the columnist sarcophagus box with more like a recapitulation energy box right at the place of

12:35 Returning your energy frequency those are still down there columns are still down their parts of the temple still remain and once you get below floor level in some of these places actually overcome with. a pretty heavy duty energy and when it comes to europe itself the only other place that i found with strong energy as in a couple of cathedrals have been in those basements is a very in england, every is another place. I was literally my legs were on fire when i was there's moving because most people don't realize that he's actually sent out like a giant serpent on the ground it's like the kundalini serpent similar to what you have united states at serpent mountain ohio

13:15 And i walked the whole thing and as i walk in finally made it into the main circle of my legs are on fire they're actually burning, can you kind of energy that was there and these are reminders to me that. whatever the agents were doing and we can't be fully sure what they were doing it's personal speculation personal thesis like i have a thesis myself but that doesn't mean its true nobody should believe what someone suggest the agents are doing all we can do is tap into some of whats there get a sense of it. And without doubt the energetic structures of these ancient sites Even today, thousands of years after their use, maybe tens of thousands of years after their use are still that strong that they can like literally if I thought if I stood still I'm going to burn up. That's how much energy was at Avery and then like I'm sure you've heard in the other interviews they go to Stonehenge and there is nothing. Hmm curious curious

14:09 Energy and timelines, I mean those are major themes of the day. And I wanted to fast forward this part of the story where you write on your about page that following a study trip to Florence new information came to light of the lies of modern history and this is really interesting because when you were looking at these cathedrals I've heard you say that you started looking at them as energy structures and i've heard you say When you take religion out of it, you're looking at a machine which is very provocative. Elaborate on this part of your work for us and some of these lies of modern history that you uncovered through this process." Yeah so I was lucky enough to spend the time with the Zen monk who was a great teacher for me and fabulous wild stories from him. The medicine men were

15:00 different kind of teachers taught me very different kinds of things and I took a lot of that with me to the ancient sites. I know for sure, I couldn't have tapped in or seen what I've managed to see at some of these sites. I had experiences of walls changing disappearing amazing experiences but it's linked to who i was lucky enough to meet 25 years ago and they were kind enough to spend their time with me and teach me some So I was working at all, whether we tell to walk in or plan K and Mexico weather be the sites in Egypt site through Europe. It was finding these energy structures finding that the way they were built with generating a particular charge and I began getting the sense that I hadn't had this for a long time it was maybe around 2018 that I started recognizing that the cathedrals themselves is great gothic cathedral's

15:55 are so similar to the temple layouts of Karnak and Luxor. So I wanted to go and now experience them the way I would in ancient temple, so go to them a little differently. The best example of it was in a city called Nantes, in the west part of France on the coast. And they have a cathedral there called the Cathedral of Saint Nicholas if you ever get chance to go. The main one that caught fire a few years ago is in the middle of town. That's what gets most tourists. This one gets almost no tourists. Fabulous, fabulous cathedral and I stood underneath the main dome

16:31 and I could feel like literally a bolt of energy was coming directly down from the dome right under me. And, I could kind of follow it. I could watch it move and I don't remember what the names are... Of the aisles? What are the names on the sides of a cathedral? Do you know what that is Greg? Pews? No not the places where you sit. There's always like a central area where all the seating is but then there's usually a set columns and then there's still like what look like walkways or you know their passages on the sides of the church. Okay, anyway I could feel the energy would come down and it would start swirling in a circular motion around the outside of the church it wasn't going unnecessarily inside was swirling on the outside and I noticed the rose windows and in this particular case the rose windows were obvious cymatic

17:19 patterns. If you could put these patterns through the waves and sand, you would know exactly what the pattern was so I could see a combination of energy moving, the giant organ when it started to play and again of course the name Oregon is related to human organs, its related to the energy system that with the energy, the organ and blasting that energy out those rose windows which would change the cymatic energy into exact frequency my guess is not only would, when it was fully operational. I don't think these are fully operational anymore but when they were fully operational, I'm pretty sure you could just be healed by going into these cathedrals that you wouldn't have really needed doctors too much. You could've just gone there and heal most everything you would have and then this energy will be going out to the city which depending on how the rose windows are structured, your moving up balance, your moving harmony, your moving out whatever you feel you need for your population

18:17 Honestly it was it was an inspiring experience but that wasn't as much of a once i got home. I came back here to norway somehow i bumped into the world exposition particularly chicago exposition of eighteen ninety three and i, And it was like just coming like literally right out of the cathedrals in florence and tracking the energy there and all of a sudden i'm looking at the same buildings the same kind of structures. And once i started looking into the story of these expositions they just made no sense whatsoever demanded, As far as I was concerned, demanded a complete study on it. I saw no one had written a book yet on the strangeness of the fairs so i thought okay! I'm an author so I'll research and write a book. I thought I'd do in two or three months but I got through nine or ten months and had to just stop because I knew that could be researching this for twenty years. Yes yes that is super interesting

19:12 just the last couple thousand years in particular do have some holes in it or seem kind of strange. I mean, I'm really interested in reexamining the timeline and the idea of resets and it's a little strange that we have The Dark Ages followed by this explosion in The Renaissance all the Gothic Cathedrals you know if this is some sort of simulation that sounds like one of those wipe-the-slate clean periods right before the Renaissance Maybe, who knows exactly how it works out. But what are your thoughts on that period of 500 AD? The start of the Dark Ages on through the Renaissance and then we'll maybe get into the world fairs but do you have any thoughts on that earlier period? Well from that particular research I started to realize well obviously the history we have at the 1800's is a lie and so the more you look back in the past I had to start questioning everything

20:10 Even like to say the renaissance is that is it a real thing we don't know for sure if that's a real thing we have some stories we have some events we have some after the fact information we are very unique buildings and artwork but we dont really know where they came from who did them in why they didn't sell. I kinda had to step back and say, I'm not really sure what the heck's going on i know that guy from angle talked about there was a thousand years added to history. And there is a lot of his stuff i kinda tend to distance myself from cuz i find it a bit concerning but this idea that obviously we don't know what year it is and once you start popping in this idea of reset this idea that

20:54 This entire will call it human specifically the human experience in this realm is what you might say constantly being manipulated and constantly being. As I try to say energy upgraded for various reasons a lot of these times in our history start to make potential sense when you start to look at them from different angles like is the end of whatever we consider the roman empire whenever that officially occurred, that's a type of reset they literally wipe out one type of culture one type of living and replace it with something else. We maybe see that same thing happened in eighteen hundred and hate to say it was seeing right now

21:32 People don't want to admit but we're actually seeing it now and that's where the study of. These events that you talking about are actually important not to learn the past that's not so important is too what does that tell us about right now how can we use that information just one step ahead of, what's going to occur here based on if i can figure out what happened then I totally agree with you it does seem like they're gearing up for something big and if these resets have happened in the past well we are in the middle of a story so you would think they would happen again but I just wanted to

22:08 Maybe dig into what you said about some concerning aspects of Fomenko's work and what you might have been talking about there. We've talked about Fomenko's work before, but I don't know how many listeners have actually read it or gotten into it to the depth that you have. I assume you think the concerning aspects are kind of the Russian-centric perspective? But you tell me. Well, that's one Everybody tends to be writing history from their own perspective and their own centric idea, of course. My concerns were when he was talking about the more ancient past for example Ancient Egypt given that's been a 10 or 15 years study of mine and he was sort of trying to indicate that Napoleon soldiers built the pyramids. And that's obviously spoken by somebody who has never been there

22:58 Someone who's never actually been not just to see the construction work is the construction of. And it doesn't matter the three pyramids on the plateau you get look at the ones that are sure you look at some of the other giants, better obviously old unique different from everything else so never mind the construction techniques once you start getting into What happens with the energy? There is no pyramid anywhere in Egypt where I have not had an actual experience. Like, the kind of thing where you could write eight or ten pages on the experience so something is beyond just a simple building process of it that there literally is a... It's like a portal. It's a portal almost outside our bubble if you think this as like the bubble of The Truman Show

23:47 or the way pleasant bill is set up as a sort of recurring loop for any of these shows that kind of lost weather always on the island pyramids to me like exit points in and out this particular bubble of reality that were in, answer because i'm not think that you soldiers could show up from france and build it i think thats. Anyone who's producing information like this, the same way Egyptologists are trying to produce information that these stones that you see carved in the Giza Plateau, these granite and basalt things with giant drill hole cores in them or perfectly curved edges are made by copper tools. It's impossible! It's actually impossible. You're at the point of having laser-type technology I think it's all designed in one way or another

24:36 Deflect the human understanding that how much power we actually have what kind of great inner ability. Not only the mind but the heart, the entire source of the human being potentially has that we've been so cut off from for so long and they don't want anyone looking into the past When humans had access to these inner skills because we would start demanding to get them again and the group that's keeping us you might say docile and farm animals is making sure that. We don't even think about the ancient world that way we want to see them as savages idiots says. As slaveholders whatever they wanna guess i think they are but the actual on site exploration of this place indicates

25:24 that they're literally living in a different universe i almost feel like he's a plateau actually touching a different universe it might still be in the same three dimensional reality that i was in but I'm so at a different energetic frequency period that it's like it feels like i'm in a different universe same thing again to walk into mexico and is one of the reasons why i love going to these places cuz it felt like i was touching something far more, who wants real because its that's an illusion itself but for more possibilities this existence are more in display still at those sites.

26:04 Wow, well I do appreciate the passion and I agree with you that it is ignorant and dismissive of how impressive these structures are to suggest that they were just whipped up in a weekend and back casted through history. It seems the more reasonable perspective would be that there are sometimes wipes of humanity and then the old structures from the previous round still remain, and we just don't have much information on them. And things get repopulated and it's more kind of in that regard where everybody is just thrust into chaos, but they can see the echoes of the time before their most recent reset. Would that be kinda your general perspective on how things work in this reality? Yeah most definitely and when it comes to the pyramids I got a really good piece of information from a Russian researcher who died six or seven years ago Alexey...I'd have to remember his name he's with the place called The Laboratory Of

27:04 It'll come to me as we talk. But he was presenting that a lot of what we see, what we think of sort of crude tunnel systems and whatever to some of these pyramid structures that kind of don't fit so well with the perfect design sometimes, that's the ancient Egyptians doing archaeological work themselves. What we think of as pharaonic Egypt, old kingdom Egypt didn't build any of these things in fact they are so old that by the time pharaonic Egypt showed up even with all their knowledge and all of their power they still had no idea what they were dealing with and they were literally doing their own archaeological digs trying to figure out what these things are and how you use them. And once that information got into my head, it was like okay it makes sense now what I'm seeing.

27:55 categorize, okay what's old pre-Egypt? What's done by the pharaonic Egyptians. What's done by some later Egyptians you could actually start seeing the periods of time when this was put together. Well in terms of looking at the timeline broadly I definitely think that super interesting to think of them as doing their own excavation because we think about these as kind all this happened at once we just don't know about what's in their ground and it's it's just a kind of a twist on what you usually think but. When looking at the timeline broadly, how do you think they create such chaos and devastation as to completely get people confused or erase their memory of the previous time before a reset? What mechanisms do you think are used for resets and I mean is this done at a level higher than our elite or is this something that's done kind of on the capstone cabal level.

28:55 I think it's beyond that i think if you start to see this as a simulation is the type of computerized AI. Manufacture reality and that's not really true i don't want anyone to think that is what reality is but it's a decent metaphor for the standpoint trying to do no have a discussion about, so these things would be happening like literally from the mainframe of the computer itself that changes will be coming from there and if things need to be done by you might say the level below the level below the level below they just get the information i know what to do, of course easiest way to do this which i think you see through the eighteen hundred's in the world fairs is. This idea of white boat a large segment of the adult population specifically

29:40 and leave yourself with a mostly child population. If you have mostly children left after a giant series of destructions, that child population is going to be believing whatever you're telling them right? They're ripe for information they don't really have any knowledge themselves there's no one else there that can give them a different story or different idea. That's the first thing you would do would be to start with a child population within a generation within 40-50 years most of the old knowledge would be wiped out. If you were looking at older cultures, then you would find ways to implant different mythology, different stories into their standard myths that begin to confuse those who hear them that they're hearing one myth that says one thing, one myth that says something else and everything starts to get confused and they're not really sure what to believe anymore I know that one of the medicine men that i had spent some time with he was very clear

30:40 When I would go in his sweat lodge, he would tell me whatever we experience here and whatever we do and whatever I can do. This is nothing compared to like 500 years ago. We've lost almost all of the main ceremonies, all of the main knowledge that the medicine people used to have a little bit he's carrying which seems fantastic to be there. He's acknowledging it's like 10% of what the old ones used to know. And again as you begin to process this just how much on so many levels of knowledge and wisdom we've lost in the reality. On the positive side, it seems like these last two or three years... And I don't think just because of the last 2-3 years but because of something that's happening energetically to our realm there are so many pieces of this old knowledge and old wisdom pushing their way back up for those who want to know it and explore it So as much as this is a giant set of chaos insanity

31:36 it's also a great doorway its like doorways are open right now to anybody who wants to really get the truth of themselves reality all sorts of things it here right now. And a lot of these things that were sort of having speculation about, are you becoming more and more available to knowledge for whoever wants to know them Very well said and I'm glad you brought up what you heard from some of these indigenous spiritual teachers that you've spent time with because On top of the World's Fair stuff, there is also a video you have on your YouTube channel about this old panorama of San Francisco from 1878. It is actually your most popular YouTube video out of everything that you've done. You made a lot of good points there. The city looks complete but there are no people in the streets and hustle and bustle in a full 360 degree image from the center of the city. There are cathedrals and domed buildings

32:35 all supposedly built by cowboys and miners from the gold rush, which you suggest might be one of those cover stories for a repopulation effort when they found this city kind of as it was. And I bring that up because you have spent time with Native American medicine men. Have you ever asked them about their version of history and who could have built a city like San Francisco if it wasn't? As we were told it was Bill Yeah, unfortunately and I feel like I wished I had known these insights or had studied these insights 25 years ago when I was with them. I think only one of the medicine people I worked with is still alive and no so I haven't been back to North America for a long time and haven't seen this gentleman directly for 10-15 years

33:25 Unfortunately, I haven't been able to ask them. My hope is that some others out there who are still because someone like your channel here has a lot of really interesting good researching people that are listening to these shows and I know people are connected still in North America to some Native Indians that they know it would be great if you have access go and Go and look up some of the things that Greg has just talked about if this is new to you, whether it be San Francisco or the World Fairs or the possibility of this giant civilization in North America existing long before it was supposed to. And if you have access to any of the medicine men please go and ask them and if you get answers get in touch with me I'd really like to know because I really don't have that same kind of access anymore. I wished I did but I don't

34:14 Fair, fair points. And you're only one man! You can only be expected to do so much but the call has been levied against the audience and we will see what people come up with. I think that's an important comment to make here is that i'm only one person just like all the researchers are only one person It hurts me sometimes when I feel or see some of the researchers, and it doesn't matter what field whether it's in metaphysics philosophy. And they sort of try to own their research or block off anything else and the only way we're going to know things is each one of us find a small piece of the jigsaw puzzle bring them to everybody and put them all together into one giant

34:56 and in the puzzle together. If we're holding back our piece, we're never going to see the whole. We have to find a piece that's ours to find share it with group that we can share it with and see what happens when we put them all together I think it's really important thing if you don't share this stuff were never gonna see the next level yes cheers to that And just to go back to the idea of a repopulation effort, I've heard of orphan trains and there are some pretty wild stories of kids being transported long distances across the U.S., from apparently all over the world. I've heard from South America, I've heard from Europe and the reasons for this are usually pretty flimsy but what would you say in terms of evidence that we can look at or stories we have

35:46 that involved the transportation or the movement of large numbers of children. For people who are like, what? This just sounds too far out! What would you cite as well maybe you should take another look at this because it might be actually possible. Yeah, if we're looking at two elements first is we've got children and were talking about sort of time in late 1800s here so we're talking about children and we're talking about insane asylums And they kind of go hand-in-hand with each other So we have these stories We see a lot of these photos and images for example children working in the mines and so much of the work being done by children it's usually presented as if it's cheap labor were working that children to the ball but realistically,

36:30 An eight year old kid is not gonna be anywhere close to getting you the kind of quality manpower that a human adult is going to give you so i'm already starting to wonder if we're seeing so many children working it's because there actually are no adults to work that if they had adults, do you would be using them and so. I'm kinda leaning a bit to the possibility that we're seeing these time periods where literally adults have been eliminated. And one of the areas of elimination is these insane asylums, again go take a look at these things if you haven't seen them from like 1870s, 1880s, 1890s there was an explosion worldwide of insane asylum everywhere and they are not just small buildings

37:14 These rival Medici palaces in Florence, they're massive and they're beautiful with towers and domes and spirals. And the question becomes why do you need so many insane asylums? Who all of a sudden is going insane in 1885?" it starts to make sense if you realize maybe these are adults who still remember the old world is still remember the old way of doing things and in a sense they're being sent to these places as indoctrination camps, and stay in them until they either re indoctrinate or leave i had another interesting theory come up to me that perhaps these insane asylums were so. Opulent obviously they taken over all palaces and turn them into a new sound maybe they needed the energy because they were trying to use the ones who survived, the last reset whatever was weather by you know some sort of natural whether these are natural occurrences that happen cyclically or whether there

38:08 plan to put in place and maybe they were using them to try that raise the energy frequency of those who have been through the last world to get their memories out of them i don't know but, the combination of the two just makes it very very very strange. And it starts to open the doors to any part of history you wanna ask me we got some film footage granted it's doctor but we can't film footage of the kennedy assassination and still have no idea what happened there how are we supposed to know what happened two three hundred five hundred years ago when that we don't even have photography were so in the dark with trying to understand any of this stuff. And it's so much is taken on belief

38:49 belief rules the historical realm and you have to put all the belief aside and start absolutely fresh, I don't know anything. And it would be a great way to teach history students would actually like history if they teacher walked in day one said yeah we got a book here this is what people in universities tell us but actually we do not know anything at all and were going to start our examination with this book and see if we can find anything that's true man that will be a great way to start a history class but thats not what it is Yeah, yeah. It really would it would be exciting to at least make kids feel like they could discover something new or make some kind of impact even if it's just to kinda motivate them to get into the study as opposed to regurgitating facts and just basically telling them that there is nothing left to discover its all known now you need to memorize it and spew it back out on this test

39:43 But you mentioned the idea that another reset could occur and the idea of a global reset sounds so epic, and it may be hard to apply the modern Configuration of our world with like times in the past but of course it's a simulation all bets are off and anything is possible if you hypothetically wanted to do something like that in the modern world what might you do you my. release a virus where on the TV, the only real common thing that they say about it that has been true from the beginning is this really isn't a problem for kids. Everybody you need to know not really have problem for kids. A lot of adults are going to die though and then your roll out a global vaccination campaign which potentially could have something in it that kills everybody who takes it within three to five years

40:38 Bada bing, bada boom. You're left with a world of mostly children you need one adult to run the mine for the 500 kids you have with the pickaxes down there doing the work but it doesn't seem super far-fetched that it couldn't be possible when we already have the term, The Great Reset being bandied about and we have this global situation that caused everyone to react or a big amount of people to react. And the story the whole time was not really a problem for kids so I just find that interesting but we're talking about this reset being at a level higher than

41:17 are Henry kissinger a cloud schwab i talk to so many guests who say they've been in the elevator with the person and this circle or something, and they feel soulless or they feel different when you met the queen you're not supposed to look into her eyes but adam curry did and he said he saw nothing. So these are weird aspects maybe these people aren't even human but their part of the game itself

41:57 Talk to us a little bit about NPCs and how you see the simulation being run and the prospect of a coming reset. Yeah, ton of information so I'll try to go through a little bit that i wrote down while you were talking The first thing is to think i didn't when i wrote my book in two thousand nineteen i was talking about resets and this is long before the things that were starting to happen now so it's actually creepy when that word started to be thrown out as this is what we're doing our world not like oh man. i was writing about this before the season happened kind of boy and i can realize we're in it now. This is no joke and i think that's what people need to recognize when people are thinking the reset his monetary or its government or something about the world nights energy,

42:46 It's an energetic reset that you can think of it that the power source of this reality the power source of the simulation is obviously now needing more power i cant see these like reason why but my theory is now when these resets happen. There needs to be a new way of power to get into the system So that makes sense to me that the reset as we're starting to see at the end results if you start following along where this seems to wanna go today is to have humans connected with a i connected in sort of a robotic way whether plug directly into the system. And this would make sense that if humans are an energy source if humans are here being farmed for energy yes number people and writers talk about history

43:35 It would also make sense, you would find you'd probably get a better ability or a better cleaner harvest if the human was plugged into the system itself. There will be no loss if the human is outside of the system there's going to be some sort of energy losses as you have to take the energy from the human through space into machine whatever it is taking and so it makes sense that thought process will be well we need more energy all we had to do is plug the human directly in or being an animal whatever we're plugged in now directly and now there's no energy loss so my first thought is if you're looking at what's going on, i'm an energy level we may start to understand what really going on with the real purpose of this is and of course. What we need to do about it when you talk about the NPCs this comes from a couple of personal stories for me and I started noticing this

44:26 Wow like the first one i ran into is like nineteen ninety nine two stories there. One though was it was a negative story and positive story but in both cases i didn't think i was dealing with human anyway shape or form on was a guy in a bookstore i was there to meet a friend of mine, and this guy which staring at me when i looked out his eyes were like dark I wouldn't necessarily black but they were just dark he was staring at me and not blinking. And i had the sense that he was trying to like almost like suck the soul out of me, can i remember i just stood there and looked at him and i wasn't staring contest with them and i was mentally projecting if you come a step closer i'm gonna put my hands around your throat and kill you

45:09 And we just stood there and I don't know whether it's a minute or whether it was 50 minutes, I have no idea. We just stared at each other and then finally after a certain amount of time this thing just turned around and walked out of the store. My friend had seen all of this occur he had seen this taking place when it was done remember I was rigid I was like a tree I was so tight with you know intensity and he just put his arm around me you can never back down from them otherwise the walk over to the rest of your life and so that was a powerful thing to start with to get that recommendation. And then the second story was i'm taking some friends to stone circle that I like to take people to in norway, and i wasn't one stone circle they were another stone circle and all this woman just appeared out of nowhere like literally out of nowhere

45:59 and walked into the circle and had this conversation with her, right away I could see from where i was a distance away that she was a little transparent. Almost like a tuner on radio she would come in she would go out to come in she will go when she walked away i walk over my friends instead so did you remember every single thing he said why because that wasn't a person you're talking too What do you mean it's not a person? That was not a person you're talking to. I asked where did she come from, well kind of over there but what's over there? Well its the forest and where does she go? She didn't go down the pathway, kinda there, she kinda just I guess into the forest right. She came out of the forest and went into the forest what was first thing that she said to you oh she said that she is the protector of this area. Protector of this area? Do you think some 68 year old woman coming around here with lawn mower and cutters looking after the stone circle? No!

46:53 So do you understand that you are dealing with something not human? And they finally began to, and in this case it was a very positive thing probably. I think we've got so many out there that have a human exterior to us but one way or another are not. We have to recognize that we've got negative sides of this which you might call soulless robots and we also got other things an extension of the natural world or an extension of the total power this place that are also in some way offering their help and offering assistance and we started need to know when we come across them, but we are and which one we got. Well i certainly like those stories and i know i threw a lot at you there cuz i want to pack a lot of those concepts into the first hour while we still could add we should maybe fit this as well because the soul trap

47:47 book is your latest one and obviously you heard the way in bush interview he's quoted at the beginning of your book people love that idea, and i've heard you say that we have two options when we look at the eighteen hundreds either we went through a reset somewhere and things were restarted and repopulated, or option two is that we have a simulation reality. And we don't know when the simulation started everything before the start is just Westworld backstory for the robots. And I really like that but talk to us about option 2 a bit and how it might relate to the newest book and at least provide some context for what or why this reality even is

48:30 Yeah it's a great comment to make you know when was just a great researcher site is fantastic he was a great inspiration actually get my work started on this book which is sort of trying to ask questions combination of. what is this place really why is it set up who set it up who created for what purpose and we're going to die were gonna have to experience something is there a way too. Get out of an endless reincarnation cycle in a part of that story is digging into okay for dealing with the simulation which seems to be more and more correct. And again, I hate to call it a simulation because it's simplifying something much more massive so again please if you're listening, I'm not saying is exactly a simulation the way we know them in our world that just... It's a metaphor to discuss where were in but any simulation has two things that are part of one is a start time there was a day zero day one of the simulation there's also a simulation is normally not just

49:34 It's copied on something there something that it's copy from so we'll take the first one and this leads into westworld leads into a whole lot of questions. Okay if you're in simulation and simulation had to start day there is an official start date of the simulation when is that, Maybe it's five days ago, maybe it's 50 years ago. Maybe it's 200 years ago who knows when the start date is but that would mean every single thing we think of as history and let's say in our own life never mind putting at 500 years ago what if you put it the simulation started 12 years ago as a great example 2010 that's when the simulation started so not just everything in history potentially everything we think of this memory in our life

50:16 Our own personal life experience is the same as just a backstory of a robot in westworld and so that leads also in my book talk about the movie dark city, which to me is one of the greatest movies ever made. And that's another key element of dark city is that every night humans are getting brand new memories brand new identities pumped into them which they believe to be real and whatever stories put it on they believe that thats their past and we actually have no proof Generally other than superficial ideas that anything twenty years ago really happen we don't know what that really happened or whether literally we been in, equivalent injected with memories and told to believe that's us i know it's kind of mind bending today into that.

51:01 But for me if you can actually figure out when the simulation started, you now know exactly what are things that are... Because there's no point studying before the simulation began. That's just backstory it's things that didn't actually happen in our so-called experience and we could really focus our time in on what did happen and I think if we're dealing with a simulation I don't think it started that long ago, maybe five or six hundred years at the most. Maybe literally two thousand years might be the most we have an actual simulation so here are all these pyramids... Are they really just literally

51:39 Insert that simulation started there just there and they're literally just copies of the pyramids in another realm that you might say where we really come from it's mind bending to start contemplating this stuff but i think we have. Mm-hmm. Maybe you could consider them just to use the simulation analogy old code like so often our phone will have an update and everything will change But maybe there's a little old code in there somewhere when it comes to the infrastructure we're looking at that's why I look So beat up, and so old Yeah or again it's just a rather than an almost like an upgrade instead of thinking like the every time we go through a new coding gets upgraded weekend i was thinking getting downgraded so literally that would change the ideas to that. The further you go back in the resets the further you go back and the code your actually dealing with more pure code that's another

52:35 Set of ideas and theories that have been presented to me that actually we are gonna stand for devolving as we go through. The years in the simulation not evolving hands if you're honest then we look back further and further and further in the past were seeing actually more and more greatness more and more harmony more and more spectacular things because where are the ones that are getting the old work kinda getting the junkie code as opposed to clean cold it used to be here a long time ago Yes, fair points. And I have heard you talk about how it seems like they're trying to push us into the whole metaverse thing which is a simulation inside of the simulation and that's another parallel is that a lot of people feel like even with their phones and what their software

53:19 the updates are really downgrades. And maybe that's just because inside the simulation, it's a fractal of the larger system and what you say about previous incarnations is true as well. I like that idea but your latest book is called Exit The Cave and let's talk about Plato's cave because you write that a foundational discussion point for the book is the allegory of Plato's cave That is found in his book Republic. It is the story of a cave of prisoners being tricked into living a life of illusion, researchers attempt to explain the analogy of Plato's Cave and its exit simply they fit their analysis into their beliefs of this world and few question whether it is a useful analogy This book is not concerned much with traps in this realm This book is looking for the foundation of all traps Well What is the foundation of all traps? And how does Plato's cave relate

54:15 Well, Plato's cave I think everybody who digs into it and to these stories has to come across Plato's cave. It just presented you and it is presented as the perfect primal original description of reality. And we all take for granted that well if everybody all these researchers tell us Plato's cave is great then must be. Then I read it. And of course Plato's cave was the foundation so many of these movies that we talk about the truman show matrix dark city movie after movie after movie there retellings play those kids, sorry read play those kids when i started writing my book and how can i write any exit the cave better reread play those kids one more time to make sure you send their. And it took me like five minutes start realizing all the important stuff is missing

55:04 The key elements of what we need to know about Plato's cave is not there. So the story actually begins, or the allegory I guess is what we should call it... begins with Socrates talking to Plato's brother, Glaucon and explaining to him there is a cave and there are prisoners in the cave. And these prisoners have been brought in just after birth they're placed in seats in such a way that they're chained together and can only see forward onto the cave walls talks about the fire in the background and people who are moving objects in front of the fire to cast shadows on the walls so ok we get the sense this is telling a story of illusion

55:42 But we're missing key elements. The key elements right off the bat being, what prisoners? Where do the prisoners come from? Why are they prisoners? Were they fighting in a war? If so what war? Why are they brought to this cave? Why wouldn't they go to a prisoner of war camp? What is the cave? Is the cave something man-made? Is it something that's existed previously? Why are the beings who are going through all this work to fool these prisoners Why are they doing that why are they going through all the trouble so within the first five minutes of reading a story you wind up with like ten absolutely important questions and we know.

56:22 that the prisoners are us. So, the prisoners in the story are told they are us allegorically so right off the bat we're like why don't you give us all this extra information because that would explain a ton of what we're dealing with none of it is there and that got me starting to wonder well what is Plato's Cave really doing for? Is it helping us or is it actually distracting Hmm, very interesting. I've heard you talk about the fact that well why would you go to all this effort to distract and dazzle people who are already prisoners? Who are chained up and that's a very great point it makes me ask you well To scale that up to our simulation or our false reality Why not just let us know we're trapped too because if this is a loose generation

57:16 farm of some kind that would generate plenty of negative emotion to feed on, just tell everyone they're trapped. Again I guess the best slave is always one that falsely thinks that they are free right? Touche! So it must have something to do with this idea because Plato tends to say actually the prisoners chains are not locked. That they can stand up and move around the cave whenever they want too so it indicates there's something about the prisoner that us ourselves that are part of the locking mechanism of the trap so it's not just that we're being deceived were also deceiving ourself another key element of the story that most people the allegory to people forget or overlook is that

58:01 One prisoner eventually stands up, he goes around the cave and sees the experience going on. And they think that if you ask them to tell the story of Plato's Cave then the prisoner goes outside. Actually no! The prisoner is dragged outside. Socrates said what would happen if they dragged the prisoners outside the cave? Even in this story one of the prisoners They don't have a story where the prisoner leaves on their own. They have to actually be dragged outside to see a greater reality, and that's also interesting of like well why not write into the allegory of a prisoner who actually left? And this became really incredibly important for me as I was going through the research and writing the book is that I looked through other books, other similar stories, other movies never ever do we see a story where

58:52 the character actually leaves play those cave they wind up knowing the cave better they wind up maybe getting more powers where they can influence the cable they can alter the key where they can make the cable bit better when i can help people within the cave but there's never an example of actually exiting. Leaving the simulation which would actually be being completely gone from the simulation so that's the part that really drags into me it said. What's most important seems like we are dealing with deception upon deception upon deception layer upon layer upon layer of false that has been thrown at us since long before we were born, no even in the pre birth state we are being deceived constantly but the one thing thats being hit from us or attempted to be hitting only thing they're trying to really make sure that we have no access to is

59:41 how do we just get the hell out of it i had enough of this crap and i'm done. And they're trying to make sure that is like the hardest thing defined and that's what i'm hoping this book starting to get towards and eventually i am Assuming the world doesn't go into total chaos, that I will have a second book on this subject next May or so. I plan on continuing this research for another six to eight months taking it even to another level from where i'm at now and i'm hopeful that more will act because that's the only thing that matters. This is me personally, i am tired of this place

1:00:21 I'm tired of that this is set up as a suffering pit of hell and i know i know so many people will have their own spin it's one thing i really started to find from the interviews now that i've done in the last month or so about the book is that, as soon as i say suffering pit of hell. I'm always responded with a belief structure of why it's okay for this to be suffering why it's okay that loving god could have created such suffering in this realm and. Thankfully or not thankfully i finally come to the place where broken that attempt to try to answer just realize its set up this way that's what they say is, add i've come to the place where i'm ready to go home

1:01:02 That's the best way to describe it. I'm ready to go home, and ready to go in sort of Gnostic terminology to return to the true father, to return where... Where I actually come from and this book is kind of my way of helping me put the pieces together to learn what needs to be done to do that And if others can get some pieces of information that helps them and if some feel like they want to join along the way and try to do the same thing Fantastic! But i know it's hard for a lot of people to have to discuss the subjects that are in my book now because it seems so negative on the service it seems like im just presenting negative information, what if you're gonna get something true then u have to see very clearly what's here and what the experience our life really is what the experience of what we are really is.

1:01:50 The end result of it is extremely positive because truth is always positive truth is always the doorway to totality but if you could gonna trick yourself and i tricked myself for twenty years and there's still areas im still checking myself i know that. I got a long way to go keep getting the answers i know that i need or maybe shortly i don't know what i know there's more to go but its important to recognize that, you have to be okay to deal with potentially negative answers that are honest coming back to you because the end result will make it worthwhile to have seen honestly and seen clearly. The truth is always positive, but it can be a difficult road to get there.

1:02:32 Wow, well I certainly think describing reality as a pit of hell is strong language. It doesn't bother me but... ...I've enjoyed my time here and really haven't had much tragedy but I'm also in the middle of a story and as you go through, y'know? A lot of my friends in Inner Circle are getting into our late 30s and people are losing their parents! And that's obviously tragic. An it's kind of like we all reach that phase of the story, whether it happens early or late. Generally you're going to lose your parents as you get older, you're gonna lose your friends, lose your spouse hopefully don't lose your children but he really can't say if it was an ultimate tragedy until you're in the third act whenever that third act is for you so I think

1:03:24 Totally possible. It's certainly set up that nobody gets out without experiencing some loss and what is that about? You know, is that's why the Buddhist philosophy is that life is ultimately suffering but from my out of body experiences Psychedelically charged yes The other side is like this blanket of love and you definitely feel like in that moment, you know what I don't want to go back. And you really think too deeply about well what about the people are leaving behind your just like this is so amazing i dont wanna go back they'll come here eventually so im not worried about it and these are all the thoughts that i had just in those moments but

1:04:06 you know the entities that i feel like i had communicated with had said to me that the value of this reality of this physical layer is that you get to experience taste and physical pleasure and warm cozy blankets and see sunsets the structure is valuable to people in the spirit world. The reason spirits want to come here is to have experience and it's not all negative, it's partly even a story why the angels are jealous of man as we're here, we can create things, we have the five senses and those senses can provide intense pleasures

1:04:46 not always, but it is an aspect of reality. And I feel like when i've had conscious communication with something that isn't intelligence outside of a body It has basically said to me, I'm kind of jealous of your experience man! It's like the grass is always greener kind of thing and I'm sitting there like well I don't even want to go back to that I'd stay here if I could and then the drugs wear off But this is kinda the thing It's just how you look at it, I suppose. But a simulation is a simulation either way. It's false by definition. It's not the true reality." It's false by definition and without going into too much detail on all this i think all of that's a trick. I'm open to it! Yeah, I think it's all designed

1:05:30 particularly when you go through the standard near death experience i think what the average person you know cuz near that they don't actually die. I think it's a propaganda campaign and its design to take a very confused soul, can you send me give them a drug of love bombing of love where they lose their ability to have Real logic ability they work out of total feeling so very easy to manipulate and i talk a lot about that in my book how i see the experience now is. Likely a giant set of manipulation it's hard to talk about because i know help people built a certain structure

1:06:11 that the world has to be good. A loving God is the one who made this place and he cares about me, and he cares about us, and he's given this a place for wonderful experiences." And yeah I've had wonderful experiences too but you know right now today there are probably going to be what 50 million girls young girls are gonna get raped tonight by their parents How many are gonna be tortured in various systems all over the world? It's easy when you're living a life, when you don't have to worry about feeding yourself. When you know you've got some food in the fridge and no one is going to be banging down your door and potentially dragging you off to a concentration camp or whatever

1:06:50 it becomes very easy to see the world as its okay you start spending time in africa or the middle east or india, just about anywhere in the world and see the cesspool of difficulty doesn't mean there isn't beauty in the world that doesn't mean there is a wonderful experiences and i'm thrilled when they come by him thrilled when. Experience of love happens or connection happens or beautiful place in nature but i know It's just like a rest plateau i know that's not really what this place is set up to do and if I just look closely, i know somebody else was going through the pits of hell even though im going through a really nice experience so. That's partially why i'm saying it's a suffering pit of hell that doesn't mean it is all the time for everyone else. And again because we don't know our past lives because we get these things memory white before we come in just like a robot in westworld

1:07:44 Maybe the last one you know what's horrible this one also bad that you can see all the lives we actually had in all the potential horror and suffering we had any other ones so. It's another problem i have with this whole setup like you say it the whole simulation everything that's involved with it if they're not gonna let us at least have access and memory to all of our lives all of our experiences to really be able to make clear understandings where we are not just send us out in this reality blind. And really not give us any knowledge or any understanding indicates to me it's the system designed to trick me and deceive me and lie to me

1:08:25 If the system was designed to help me, it would for sure give me as much totality of experience that I've had so that i would know where to go next or not. And I know that's hard for some people to hear but... I tried my best to find a positive outcome for 25 years and I finally just-I guess I finally become an Cathar. It's the best way to describe it! I guess like become a Cathar Yeah, that's why their chapter 14 of my book is all about. Their story and what they believed in how they tried to live there existence too as they say end the reincarnation trap of Rex Monday so yeah I love it

1:09:04 Hell of a segue. And that is exactly what I was going to ask you about, because we have talked on this show plenty about the Gnostics and how they saw this as a false reality but you write about the Cathars who are sometimes considered a Gnostic sect under the umbrella of Gnostics but they are specific people and you write in the book As for the Cathars, why is the study of a group of people genocided in the 13th century important? The Cathars had as their main belief that this was a world created by an evil god, Rex Mundy who kept them in a reincarnation cycle and their only focus in this life was to escape it.

1:09:42 The Cathars were not concerned with making this place better, finding new forms of government or commerce or anything else. Their focus was to escape the evil realm of the Rex Mundi forever and return home to their father." Well how did they come to this conclusion? And if they were dedicated to escaping how were they attempting to do that in their day? Well I think what i should do because I know we're coming to the end of the first hour portion of this and I'd like to leave Because, you know I just had a pretty harsh negative outcome. I'd like to leave something positive if that's okay with you? Well that's fine! I planned actually end this little bit earlier ago like in my mind as i'm thinking about how it will go through because I'm not really one of those people that does here is the decisive split but

1:10:27 Either way, we'll have to talk a little bit longer overall if you're cool with that. But yeah let's let this be the end of the first hour I have no problem with that it's a fluid thing but we will have to talk a little bit longer than expected Okay i'm happy to talk about the Cathars next but I think it's good to share this stories in prayer because it's so valuable for people to hear these stories okay? If that's okay It is hit me with it I figured this is an important time to share the element of prayer and it's something that i have been studying for quite a long time ever since I started working with the medicine people who, the number one part of all their ceremony is prayer.

1:11:03 and trying to understand what they were doing. And I've written several times as I tried to understand that the main element of their prayer was saying thank you, not actually asking for something in it. Okay? I started to understand in a bit and then as I began working in the material that became this book, I started seeing that the way normal person has learned how to pray is probably turning us into prey By going outside of ourselves, by praying to anything outside of ourselves we are setting up a possibility of energetic manipulation. We're turning ourselves into prey so why not learn how to pray to yourself? And as I spoke to a medicine man that I still have connection too, a little while ago and he shared this story with me and I want to share it with everybody. That story is about 20 years ago New Mexico or Arizona was going through terrible drought

1:11:59 They called in a local medicine man of the area and they tried to call for rain, but it never rained. So they brought in a different medicine man from the north and he came down and did his ceremony that night it rained. And it rained for three or four days straight. They finally asked him why did your ceremony work when others didn't? He said oh, the other medicine men were praying for rain. When you pray for something that means it doesn't exist now I just prayed rain And when I shared this back with Jerry, I said so what actually happened is he first became rain. He wasn't human medicine man praying to rain. He was rain praying to rain. So the only thing that existed in the reality was rain, so of course it would have to rain

1:12:45 Any city that's exactly the way it worked and told me some other stories of his uncle bear hearted gone through similar experiences and i took that out into the forest the next day because it was blue berry season and i love to get my blueberries for winter normally always pray always leave an offering i think the forests i thank you blueberry before start but then is that what this time Before i do that im gonna become a blueberry so it's not going to be human person. Giving the offering i'm gonna be a blueberry giving the offering to the blueberries when that was done, i found more blueberries than i could have possibly picked in a week it was the most unbelievable thing to realize that this is like an unbelievable secret when you become the thing that you are praying two or four

1:13:33 The creation of it in the reality is almost automatic. And that was like getting the secret of secrets in the manifestation, in the simulation itself. So that's something I just... It's important that I want to pass on to everybody this idea of if you start changing how you pray, start changing what prayer means to you, you might notice you're getting a really different response from the energy and effort you put into it Yeah, I think that's really well said. On the occasions where i have talked to occultists or magic practitioners they emphasize that point as well that it is important to speak in the present tense or in very specific language because the universe let's just say doesn't really understand

1:14:21 the word not or whatever. So you have to talk as if you already have the thing that's how you step into your reality, it's how manifestation works and when I hear so many different people making that point it leads me to believe that its probably very correct and it will increase your potency We can call that the first hour and we can start off that second hour with the Cathars if you like, but I'm curious if their focus was getting out. Well how did they do that in their day? Exactly the question I had!

1:14:58 I studied the mysteries of southern france now for almost ten or fifteen years i started with the red lush ato story, get into that try to find out what was true or not true about that moved into the next time i moved into the cathars moved into the goals moving to new real story potential story jesus and the new testament. And when i read again did the cat hours i thought well they gotta have a great system in place obviously they were killed for it they must have a system but once you dig into whatever is remaining with so little remaining of what the cathars believe there did or access. There's not much there and i was kind of surprised and i'm happy to share what i found with you because when i get out that makes me wonder

1:15:43 Either they were doing something else and they managed, even through the Inquisition to keep that hidden from the Church of Rome or they missed a step somewhere and they were kind of fooling themselves. I'm not sure which it was because always that exiting the cave is something so different from seeing the cave clearly. So we can talk about that. Let's do it! You know one of my curiosities is if we're gonna throw so much doubt on official stories Maybe they weren't quote unquote genocided, maybe they did get out. There's another really interesting theory because the system is going to have to have a cover story Yeah that may be they... Because that's the story of the Mayas too right? We have this great civilization and then all of a sudden they just disappear and archaeologists find no bodies, they find no evidence of warfare They find you know it's just like they literally disappeared

1:16:38 So, same thing. Did they find a doorway and just vanished on their own? And then like you say maybe the Cathars did that and then a story was created around them I'm not so sure because one of the strange things that happens about the Cathars it made me start questioning this was a book from the 1970's by a psychologist Wow! I can't think his name now Goodman or something who lived in Bath England and claimed in the course of his various psychological studies that he was getting continuous people claiming to be reincarnated Cathars. And that he had like 20 or 30 of them who were giving him information that they shouldn't have and they would go to France and they would verify this information so, That was another thing that made me wonder okay if the Cathar's whole

1:17:24 Presentation was exiting the reincarnation cycle. If someone is still reincarnating and still reincarnate six or seven hundred years in the future something went wrong somewhere so, Did only certain Cathars figure it out? At certain times, was it later on because we know the Cathar's existed much longer than they claim to exist. So did certain ones only have the right exit tools and others didn't I don't know but stories like that with a constant claim of I was reincarnated Cathar story that makes me wonder well if that is the whole purpose of your stories no one asked them I wish someone would ask

1:18:04 Okay, you say you're a reincarnated Cathar. Yes okay so if your whole teaching is about ending the reincarnation cycle why are you still reincarnating? I mean that would be the most powerful information all of us could get but no one seemed to ask that question. Yeah it just makes me think that maybe certain groups have jailbroken out of here. Maybe the Heaven's Gate cult figured it out and they were only made to seem stupid for the people left inside the game like, hey don't pay attention what they're doing there is a buncha idiots wearing Nikes and killing themselves you don't want to go down that road so don't worry about that over their meanwhile maybe they found opening got out

1:18:47 I know most of the time, of course it's written and of course i wrote a lot about in my book sort of this how to exit after you die period. How do avoid some traps and deceptions and deal with the after death state but... ...I would also for sure say that there must be a way to do before you die. There would have to be a way almost, I heard described as pop out of the matrix that literally just now your gone But I think it requires quite a bit of preparation. I get a sense that one way or another, Carlos Castaneda in his own way was writing some of these ideas that...I don't think he had total knowledge and there were lots of question marks about him and how he lived his life and the strangeness of his own life but in the writings are some of these ideas

1:19:32 that could have become a pop out of the matrix moment. And I don't doubt that certain individuals and certain groups did understand how to do this, I was told a story by a friend of mine, I don't know if I should say this but maybe I will say that there was a book that existed in their family they come from her families from Southeast Europe so gypsy country and that there was a particular book that was in her family and if you read the book ended every single thing in this book completely perfectly exactly as the books said when you're finished it would disappear, so i think this knowledge does actually exist out there in some very hidden underground form.

1:20:15 There must be ways to do it but it also seems like, its not something you learn in 24 hours. That there's a tremendous amount of learning no just to deal with the material body, the mental body, the etheric body, the astral bodies or whatever other body that all these things have to really fine tune and I think about then know where is cracker portal or whatever it is to make the jump out And as we're trying to find some way to wrap up all the wild stuff, We talked about I was listening to one of your previous interviews about the new soul trap book and you were getting pretty worked Up saying that this era is so important. Nothing is getting fixed We have maybe six to twelve months left and if the whole thing isn't shut down in 6 to 12 months It'll never be shut down The game is that close to being finished?

1:21:09 Pretty bold statements as we're pulling this all together. Do you still feel that way? The way I kind of described it was or tried to present, so hard to try to say especially when you know you got the energy in it but I felt that and this was about six months ago maybe yeah We were in like about a nine or ten month period where there's going to be a pretty massive event and we're starting to see how many balls are in the air right now And that this event is going to guarantee lead this into the next reset and if people don't recognize it and i don't know if you can be changed this is not important for time i'm not sure that whatever this event is gonna be there we can fix what we can do is recognize its happening and.

1:22:01 Most importantly move into our own power that's really what all this is about anyway the whole thing we talked about for the last couple of hours it's all about. Will you go externally and you look externally and u explore the cave the most important thing you have to explorers yourself, And the most important thing we have to do is called going within or spiraling within or following the labyrinth within, to the place of our own power. To the place of all the things that we've kind of rejected about our true nature All of us every single person whether they know it or not has more power than they can possibly believe has more access to everything you ever wanna know. What if we focus that on trying to fix external if we focus out on trying to save the world is insane in the world is going insane and i need to fix it were already losing a lot of our power

1:22:55 that instead we wanna i think in my opinion deep in the power deepen our connection to it help others to make that connection as well to deepen your own power. What happens to the rest of reality around us because of it will happen as it happens were not focused on fixing it were focus on taking yourself to the totality of what we are and allowing that to be our guide. Who am i case of course you leave the cave but it might be different for everybody but its been following your own inner path in her own journey to the point i was making is don't think you got ten or twenty years to do this work anymore it's not nineteen eighty

1:23:36 You know the things that applied in nineteen eighty or nineteen ninety and the things to self help guru said all the spiritual books came out they don't apply anymore. All of that is no longer relevant we are in a very compressed time frame now in a very compressed energetic state That means there's a great opening is a great portal to the great possibility for knowledge a lot of people are getting tremendous amounts of knowledge very quickly right now it's overwhelming for a lot of people they're having a tough time dealing with. Now is the time to not only work for yourself, to finish the job you started. You might say of a path to truth helping those that are particularly coming to knowledge very more quick than they're ready for and need some help. Need some help to apply what's going on understand what's going on because again things that would normally have five or ten years to assimilate and work through it. You've got five or 10 months now if I were 10 weeks

1:24:33 And so my point was not in a sense to scare anyone not to present doom or anything it was just say but actually this is gonna change and its gonna become. Potentially really really crazy really quickly so focus your time and energy on what's absolutely most important to you If you don't know what's important start asking today, what is the most important thing in my life? What is the most important thing I want to put my time and energy into. Put your time on that maybe it's just spending time with kids and dog and family and that's the most important thing of my life then do it! Don't wait for next year to do that right now because the way this

1:25:17 reset is seemingly structured we don't know how long we got to do anything so find out what's most important you put your time and effort into that then no matter what happens even if nothing happens and the whole thing becomes magic wonderland, you're not gonna be disappointed in say i wish they put my time and effort into this when i had a chance he did. So put your time and effort into whats important to you and no matter what happens from that you'll be glad you did down the road Mm. I love it, great way to bring it home! What a pro! It's like you've done this before but damn well Howdy this was a whirlwind of fun stuff to think about the wisdom of the ancients and the indigenous The oddities in the timeline The world's fairs and the trap of all traps the reincarnation cycle Really had a good time with you today Give the people your links And the info they need To dig in deeper if they want more than the taste They got today

1:26:16 Thanks Greg, I've been actually looking forward to this for a long time. I really like the work you do and how prepared you are for the interviews and how smooth you make them happen so Thank you again for having me on as your guest today. And if people are interested, you can look for information on my books at the very terribly named... I can't believe I named my website this but it's egyptian-wisdom-revealed.com It's probably easier to just Google search my name and get to it that way You can also see most of the books on Amazon Exit The Cave is just out. It's new. It's only about three weeks out. It's only a PDF ebook at this time

1:26:53 It's by donation actually, minimum $5 which I think is great for a 200 page 15 chapter book of information. We're hoping to have it out soon as a print book maybe October and an audiobook later in november but you can go to the website and check out the information on that book the other books you can find an amazon or your local bookseller. You can go to youtube do i'm still there for now howdy mccoskey talks, and there's 300 videos there that you can look through and find a subject it's interesting to you My email can be found through both that, YouTube and my own site if you have something to share or you have a question to ask. I do get a lot of really useful information that comes from me from people dropping an email so your more than welcome to do that. Thanks again for sharing your time and listening along with our conversation we've had. I really enjoyed this one!

1:27:48 Yeah, man. Me too! Thank you for the kind words and I appreciate you going closer to almost three hours with me You are the man! I'm glad you found a passion in life before the depression took you over the edge Not everyone is so lucky but you really have forged your own path and it's impressive And this was quite enjoyable keep up the great work and take care Thanks Greg all the best Sweet big cathedral energy Batman. I am a fan of this one clocking in it well over two hours Can you believe it? Howdy's a fun guy exploring all sorts of slices of the mysterious pie-of-life Pulled himself out of a deep depression and went balls to the wall

1:28:34 I think you know by now that one of my favorite avenues for exploring the idea of a reset or radically different past that has been glossed over and forgotten is the World's Fairs. It's a subject that butts right up against Tesla and secret tech stuff, The size & scope of these events at time when getting around the planet wasn't easy, And looking all those details that Howdy has extracted...I mean it's just a big fucking wow from me And I know that ended up being deep second hour stuff, though it would have been the first thing i asked him about. But my rule of thumb is always to try to get a person's latest work into the first hour It just feels like that is what I should do and that material is interesting as well no doubt! When we're talking simulation type stuff The idea of NPCs is also fascinating

1:29:28 It's basically just a couple degrees over from Reptilians, which is a couple degrees over from Psychopaths. It also jives with the Hidden Hand material which was all about the Elite reincarnating into the same families to maintain that level of control over the game but it all speaks to that idea that some people are not like you and me Are they a different kind of creature? Are they from a different planet? Are they agents of a conscious reality? Are they bosses in the video game life to be conquered? I guess that's yet to be determined, but something is certainly off with these people. And who knows when a random character in the game sends you on a trajectory that seems subtle but ends up being quite profound

1:30:17 It's worth thinking about. So I love the material, i love his personal story. I think it is a great message to say that if you've had enough If you're at your wits end, if you're at the end of your rope Don't just snuff out your own fire Stoke it and burn off all the pain The numbness, the boredom and the unfulfilled dreams Just go harder than you ever thought possible And see where you end up when you have nowhere to go but on that adventure and howdy is gonna have to come back sometime cuz we left a lot on the table he's gone super deep on dark city, he did a big 12 part series on renla chateau the kthars in the knights templar getting into the idea that paris could be the new testament jerusalem it's odd but i like his creativity and his willingness to go deep into uncharted waters

1:31:08 Plus the life experiences spending time with the shamans and medicine men first hand. I'm a fan! I did record this one several weeks back though, so when we ended with him talking about us having 5 or 6 good weeks left that's basically down to 2 or 3 now And we all see the direction things are going but sometimes i think these arcs seem immediate when really they're much longer than we think I can't remember if Ice Age Farmer was 2020 or 2021, but he definitely made it seem like we would all be starving and dead by now because there'd be no food anywhere. I also heard a clip the other day from 1997 where David Icke said the plan was to create a virus in a lab let it out

1:31:55 and then create a global vaccination campaign to cull the population and gain access to the human operating system. He also said they would change elder care to kill off the elderly in 1997 I was in the seventh grade so was he wrong or was he extremely right? It sounds to me like a lot of people would have said he was crazy as he walked the long road to being right So even with the World Economic Forum Sustainable Development Goals stuff, we are throwing out warnings that might not be obvious for five to eight years. And people have a super short memory so we got to consider how long these plans are sometimes but I still loved this one i don't share Howdy's negative outlook on reality itself as a structure but as I said I'm in the beginning of a story-the middle really

1:32:53 And I'm well aware that nobody gets out alive, loss will be baked in. But my first 38 years have been pretty damn enjoyable and the negative pressures I felt from the system led me to do this and this has worked out... And look! I am not naive to the possibilities but so far so good though i understand why he feels how he feels based on his experience so far and ask me another 10 years and I might be more on his page who knows And as good as the first half was, you know we got a second half for members. You can get a worthless blue checkmark for eight bucks a month or you can get five high octane episodes of THC and it all starts with a free seven-day trial that you could get right now at TheHigherSideChats.com or click the top link right there in the show notes of whatever podcast app you're on

1:33:47 In the second hour today we talked about recapitulation practices and how important they are, a deep dive on Howdy's work on deconstructing the world fairs and international expositions. The multi-layer motivation for throwing the fairs, the strange history of the architects of these world fairs some of Howdy's exploration stories and his call to THC listeners insights from those medicine men a deep dive into the Buffalo World's Fair and its radical brutality, and we talked about The Temple of Music and the assassination of President McKinley. Very diverse and compelling range of topics, banger of an episode! In higher side news were gonna pop over to that meetup calendar and see what is what

1:34:36 Well, we are done with the first week of November though I am looking at an event today that...I can barely pronounce but it's in Ontario in Utterson Canada at the Raymond Community Hall. It says, join me and the local seniors for a rousing Euchre tournament. Entry fee $2 coffee included cash prizes for the top three winners I have to look at what Euchar even is? I just googled how to pronounce it but i do like it and I do like gambling and games that can win people money! I wish I had more time to promote it but if you're in Ontario Canada and you want to play Euchar there's a tournament happening

1:35:19 Then on the 11th we got the Topeka Kansas meetup at the Topeka Performing Arts Center. On the 12th, we got an Asheville North Carolina meet up. On November 13 a Utah Meet Up in Sandy Utah at the Athena Beans Bistro. November 16 getting together in Seattle Washington again. November 18 going to the Durango Colorado Smiley Cafe And we got West Bridgewater, Massachusetts and Frederick, Maryland closing out November. Now I hope more things get added always give me the two week lead time so I can promote the event let people know so they don't miss it but that is a full calendar and I like to see it People meeting people That's life right? So really good show! I don't have much else to say big thanks to todays guest check out his books and videos tell him you liked the interview if he'd be so kind

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