Gordon White | The State of Conspiracy Culture, The Empire’s New Pivot, & Bilbo Baggins

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03:37 and we're going to try to talk through some frustrations, properly orient ourselves amongst the chaos profile the important ways the world is changing and offer up some ways to armor ourselves from the big bombardment. Halfway through the first year of cultivating his farm at the edge of the world one of my favorite esoteric explorers to wash up on our earthly reef a useful teacher in the era of free-range totalitarianism The Tasmanian Devil himself. Gordon, my good man, welcome back as always! Thank you very much! Happy birthday Mr President! Ha ha ha... thank you, thank you

04:13 I'm really glad you could be here man because i think this conversation is gonna be really refreshing for me. I've gotten a bit exhausted with the world lately everything feels quite heavy, i watched some friends go down some bad roads i have dealt with some internet creeps and what kinda sorta felt like a coordinated effort to get under my skin. So i really just bowed out of social media engagement across the board maybe i should thank them for that right? But mainly small things and you know how they can stack up. And then the news is still nothing but Russiagate for over a year, and with the latest trends in conspiracy I just feel more unaligned perhaps than I usually should? So on multiple levels I could use a reset and a show with you does tend to make me feel a bit better Not that this is a Greg Carlewood therapy session, but I guess I'm here for a new prescription regardless doc

05:07 Yeah i definitely resonate with what you're saying there i mean there's an element of cooking a frog right now yes and i think a lot of people are we not very used to having longer frames of reference so when you look at what's going on in the world. We have a tendency to think it is new so its been a step change that happened in the last eighteen months or whatever but it's it's in fact, in particular comes to us it sort of inevitability of a forty year neoliberal experiment and so i resonate with people that they like this is quite toxic, what does stuff doesn't seem all that good and it's in a weird way looking at how why this might be a glass half full situation. Is there is now no other option but to really sit with what did you going to do and how it is your going to think with nb in the world because yeah discourse has been better

06:05 It has and you said something one of your recent podcast that i liked about how it seemed like we get addicted to the worry, don't do anything and then act surprised when the things we talked about manifest and. I can hit me pretty hard i think there's a lot of truth that maybe its why i'm having a harder time having fun with the show like this cuz it is all getting pretty real It is and that's the bit that i'm surprised you particularly when we're talking about a conspiracy audience as these things in the last couple of years has been a sort of fundamental management change about how. The global order is going to work for the next ten or so years, sell a lot of stuff that we've been historically talking about and looking into instead of appearing from behind the curtain in various different forms space forces whatever you want right

06:55 Not only is conspiracy as a discourse not great right now but so weird about that is that everything in the world is conspiring to mention the rush against which, the media appears to be way more interested than this isn't positive rate. The us public so the more recent poll that i saw with a mori's and survey indicated that less than one percent of the u.s public considers russian interference to be the most pressing issue facing the country but if you look at what's going on in richmond show for instance you would think it's the complete opposite so we're in this world where, add this one is zero evidence conspiracy as your way like minutes the raining discourse, this should be out time and its not and so does make me think

07:43 What were the psychological benefits what was the payoff to use a doctor phil right? What is the pay off for people being involved in? Parapolitical research and an interest in that kind of topics you cover on this show And I think there is a difference between what I thought it wasn't. I was trying to work out how the world works So it didn't crush me In many respects, this isn't legitimate. I think for many people It's kind of like a Rubik's Cube hobby hmm, and that's fine except here we are There are some fundamental changes going on in the world and you may want to look at whether you can use that rubix cube for something else.

08:21 Hey man i had a similar motivation in mind of course it was i just wanna get out of the shitty job this job and that's. False white picket fence dream that was sold to me that isn't going to work out and i want to get out of it before i get too deep in it, add them also interested in all this other stuff so really what is let's workout how the world works so it doesn't crush us i think thats great expression of that motivation yeah well i can do because the will did crash So I had all this money saved when we first moved to London and we moved to London two weeks before Lehman Brothers collapsed. All that money went because they couldn't find jobs for months and months, and i'm watching the news and reading the news and like actually have no idea what they're talking about and it destroyed the world and took all my money And I like money so I did not know where the subprime mortgage was I didn't know how bond markets worked I didn't know any of this stuff and that was my bad

09:17 because maybe if i had known it wouldn't have been living on one pound ham sandwiches and whatever that was my arrival into, how political research which is the world is not as advertised as we all know listen to the show but also. As a result of that, there are risks that you may not see and I certainly didn't. That will sink your ship if you aren't paying attention so it's just kind of surprising that all this stuff is happening as we mentioned before you hit the record button people in... So the macro world is talking about Russiagate and the conspiracy world is talking about Flat Earth? What's going on Gregg? Right man!

09:57 Exactly that list was flat earth australia is not real nuclear weapons are a hoax dinosaurs or a hoax and trump is the god emperor, reigning in pedophilia networks that have only existed because hillary clinton ran the show like it is kinda crazy and ask someone who. Really wanted to elevate conspiratorial thinking when i started this show I now feel like all the biggest ideas have gotten away from me and they are big ideas i can run my numbers up against the flat earth hour podcast and see that they're doing quite well, add it's just weird to make cuz i don't understand why when i kind of. Worn this badge my whole life it now doesn't seem too mean what i thought it meant

10:47 Well i understand what you mean and let's look at what the mostly unfair claims that are commonly leveled it sort of conspiracists and the main one, let's go back to humbler nicer times like the nineties ironically so what tends to be. Levels conspiracists is that you can't handle the complexity of the world and so you need to invent a story to explain now i have always found that rich because in fact that is what's the normies do they can't handle the complexity of the world so i'll just watch rachel maddow and only in america is geography breaking news where she's pointing out the fact that north korea has a border with russia, any consider and go exactly what's going on because this intelligence operative mentioned north korea as a boarder with russia and sell it to me is kind of bizarre hypocrisy to meet people. For me and probably you an interesting politics and conspiracy is not just

11:45 doesn't just imagine a general suspicion of authority which is been baked into both of us since we were kids. It's also i'm looking for the complexity in the new ones and not looking for the simplicity it turns out if we look at how die some other more popular means inconspiracy, that they may have been back in something to that accusation that the world is now too intense and complex so let's get the dumbest down version vision of the world and hide it And the trump god and pro one is a very good example. Add me sort of feed into the queue in on things well it's like okay i'm just gonna reduce the complexity to zero with this invented story and sit there and wait for the world to get better, can i have this unbelievably you want you and i think that's a psychological reaction because i didn't give you step out of it you realize well

12:39 There is a lot of complexity happening economically geopolitically and i am either too scared or intimidated to put on my big boy trousers and do what I had to do in two thousand eight which is like oh no what's going on. And it's a big deal so i should probably do that and i think that's whats happening i think the fact that there are been, not much kind of change has sort of impacted many amigos around the world and say you have that Fear reaction and inability to think clearly in that's where we are happy birthday. I'm man well it's also like for most of our lifetime if were not thirties it wasn't really that hard to see the direction at the global is going whether it was left or right bush or clinton or obama like we could see the consistency in that trajectory but there is a difference in trajectory now you've talked about

13:35 the big empire pivot i mean that does kinda make it a little bit harder to parse out what's going on and i guess you know of course i wanna hear what you think is actually going on but at least i get to go easy on people there is a change. Massive change and worse than that a lot of sacred cows conspiracy sacred cows, Turn out to not be correct like one of the things i mean i know you're a crypto nerd and whatever but there is a giant gold bug. Presents in the conspiracy world and it's also this very seventies idea that the us needs to protect the petro dollar and the dollar is about to collapse

14:14 Now, the pivot predates Trump. It predates him by a couple of years. You started to see that with the sort of 20% rise in the US dollar beginning about 2014 but also around the world you had the German Chancellor, I'm sure it was not Chancellor, the economics minister Schauble saying the debt growth model is over The debt growth model is the empire right? So you actually see the realization that the way that the world has run on this kind of Bretton Woods scheme is no longer in particular america's benefit so we're now pivoting off a way of running the world that has worked for forty or fifty years and people are. And whatever you can like gold all that kind of stuff but please be aware that, i love people emotionally attached to petrodollar analysis dollar collapse gold bug and it's wearing opposite us trying to get off the bed. Add gold is irrelevant and the dollars going to strengthen

15:12 The way i saw the world economically work is not what's happening go straight doesn't exist that's an easy place to live well. In terms of the us getting off the petro dollar trying to what are the indications that that's the case The petro dollar was a post war so that allowed american energy security for growth but also kind of long way of managing remnants of imperial colonies in the middle east. It's a component in the way of the britain would system so after the war what happens was america has basically all the money europe ruins, no one else has anything american is enormous economy that they're about to pay it back from being a war machine into consumer economy. So seventy percent of world gdp was in us after the wall and major problem with publicly facing was the soviet union so here's the deal

16:10 countries around the world get free access to the american consumer for acquiescing to america and geopolitical goals which is principally defied against communism. And that was a deal so everyone got to sell stuff to the american consumer and grow their economies as a result and they just kinda had to sit on my hands well americans imperial adventure isn't right how's the planet That model is very expensive and over because one communism is done but to decide effective this is with the american navy in particular but it's military essentially funds the security of global trade.

16:51 So that's what Britain would do. America keeps the world safe and you get to put your stuff on a ship from China or Brazil, and take it to the US, and sell it to Americans. Now at any other time in history except with the British Imperial model so this is how Britain managed to have a laissez-faire global economic growth but still remain dominant until the end of the Empire was the British Navy, the Royal Navy kept the sea lanes safe So here's a situation where the Americans, American taxpayers are paying for Navy that protects economies that are now competing with and catching up to the US. Principally China of course you know well and American companies are showing their jobs there anything this model this is no longer something that suits america's medium term interest until what we have is a pivot around but the petro dollar was the kind

17:44 Where you could run the geopolitics of the world to keep the US dollar dominant off a gold standard in particular. What are things that we see now as us is and setting by the end of year the largest energy producer and exporter so it beats the saudis, they don't need to force the rest of the world to buy middle eastern oil in us dollars because there selling energy so i did it's the same cost for them because you know you guys are actually making it, or you have to use the dollar because he was exporting. Set this kind of way of managing middle east and geopolitics is a petro dollar hasn't really been

18:24 something that has been useful especially is it tends to bring the dollar up hasn't really been useful for a while so you have all these sacred cows that. How politically interested folk have relied on analysis of the world for a very long time that is clearly being rearranged from a monolithic imperial model. Which is again a british imperial to some sort of balance power approach of running the world rather than invading and putting military bases everywhere which is really expensive, no longer providing return on investment given that communism has been defeated

19:01 You know in a situation going alright weather biggest economy in the world i am repricing access to it. And i'm going to kind of use special forces and the rest of that to keep people running countries the way i want them but we're not going to invade and infect when we have the money and we have the energy and we had the biggest economy, We will tell you where you are in the order of usefulness to america and that is a much cheaper way running an empire and we're kind of moving into that. Geopolitical direction you see that with trans treatment nato you see that with, various well quite good and believable threats around things like trade wars in each case what you're seeing there is a renegotiation of the redwoods arrangement on a country by country basis because it's over just cost for america now. And this is why maybe certain elements are rallying around just this roast fast of trump in the administration because its getting more expensive for them that access is getting more expensive,

20:04 Yes, so let's say you're a joint chief and your job is actually national security now if you look at where the. Centrist neoliberal imperial project was going to go including a lead up to war with the world turning other credible nuclear power as a way of running erasure that's the empire model very expensive makes this a film in layer extremely rich So that's sort of Clinton network layer, which isn't I'm not being partisan about that. She took money to the Clinton Foundation took money from anyone yet but if you look at what happened say after you use Hillary State Department to install Nazis in Ukraine and Crimea get siphoned off but also get like Biden's kid then running the energy company that's in there so you have this for a lot of people got really really really rich

21:00 On this central banking warfare model is what Catherine Fitz would call it, which is you collapse a country. And you move american companies in that have access to essentially free money from a raising of debt perspective. You can ask the country and basically harvested by using money that we create so let me go rich doing this, add this is sort of if you picture pyramid like the pyramid this is what i call it for filming later vampire so it's a sort of build a bag layer people who do the heavy lifting and i got very rich doing it and they probably didn't get the memo from the national security senior management. Layer which is this model is making america poorer and less safe in my job is national security so we defeated coming like you have to think about it from that point of view because, i can see how trump would want anything is russians

21:57 Trump would not have won without military intelligence support. And so that's kind of where you follow the thread along to who is in fact making this decision and why, and from a national security perspective because I know most of your listeners are American the thing is it... I'm not pro-Trump or any of that stuff at least but they're actually correct The empire was too expensive It makes the world less safe It makes America less safe And it makes America poor So It needs to shift because you're running on a model that was designed to defeat communism and you ran out for like twenty years longer than needed. So now we're at the ship i don't know why, damn the urgency with daddy get that done in twenty sixteen no idea probably has something to do with space given what subsequently happened including and just describe that two things in particular it looks like when we spoken about this last time it comes to the stars academy but look like there was

22:57 the appearance of all that kind of private eyes underground based off your electric video and all the toys, we're going to set it on board into global economy under a presumed clinton regime where it can come through private means particularly like to be lost in so many if you look at what to the stars academy's role i think was it was too big. Cover and narrative for this onboarding of the really cool stuff that we use to talk about in conspiracy land about electro gravity and directed energy weapons all those things which still exist even if it doesn't. But if you look at what's up so can we have any Elon musk is now, who was gonna be one of the principal vectors quite clearly i mean he was talking about hyper loops and all that kind of crazy cold war tech

23:45 He's gone insane might be mind control i don't know what the point is the mandate of heaven has been pulled from him. And if you look at those no make comments trump made about space force, i would not be surprised if that was in fact describing a force majeure which is to say because there's already a lot of stuff up their most of which are in private hands as we know because of the various freedom of information responses which allowed for the privatization things like everything else that taxpayers pay for. Into corporate hands into military industrial hands away from reach And a force majeure is essentially, because here's the thing if you are military intelligence and let's say Raytheon or Intel or whatever has some toys that are in private hands. You can take them because what are they going to do? Take it to court? They're not supposed to exist. Yes! I just wonder if when Trump was talking about Space Force that sounds like military intelligence force majeure to me which is like well in fact

24:45 We are starting military control over stuff that had been privatized and was going to make a fulfillment plan very very well. That's my guess as to one of the priorities of whoever the people behind putting a game show host in his president, I think he actually believes and this is just excellent casting i think you actually genuinely believe the cover story so i actually think. He thinks a trade war is good and i think they found someone who genuinely believes that covers stories to use to reorganize the economy in again has military intelligence fingers all over it because thats really well chosen yeah useful yet

25:30 Man that is a great breakdown and i really have been following these threads in your newsletter which to me every time im like okay there's, what should be looking for because it's really hard to parse out without someone who's digging my from the alternative perspective like you are cuz as we said most of the conspiracy world is distracted with these almost Non issues when there's a lot of shit going on and then the mainstream is only concerned with five people one of them support star when there's billions of people and a lot other stuff to look at so i just think that's really good breakdown and.

26:06 The american consumers definitely gotta be a bargaining chip or well train we eat up the marketing and we have more purchasing power than most populations yeah there's value in that, can i ask as basically the american empire is product. There isn't if you look at so. The trade war which trump thinks and i think he believes this i think it believes if u correct the trade deficit with china it is better for the american economy now That's actually not what the tariffs and all the rest of it are for especially as if you in fact look at the stuff that is coming into the US. I mean most people think it's

26:47 And this is true, like the garbage that you get the little toy in your cereal that says made in China on the bottom of it and they think China's actually just making actual garbage and tipping into the US. As a matter fact, a lot of this stuff that comes back from China IS coming back because U.S companies have outsourced manufacturing steps to China where its cheaper so... This idea of putting tariffs on U.S companies trying to bring stuff IN right? That's dumb BUT Because this exists those manufacturing steps will have to one board so. The other thing the stuff that comes from china isn't garbage if you look at the things that us actually imports it's miles and miles of giant cement tubing and all the stuff that goes into building infrastructure for energy in the rest of its a look at the trade deficit but you don't realize what happening is us companies are buying cheap, stop the baby to grow gdp

27:44 Now i think he honestly thinks that the US should be in a trade surplus with china which is madness but nevertheless, the impact of this is to reorganize and reshape. The us economy to essentially be the only game in town thats the real reason behind tax reform and then next two coming and this is how you know it's true eventually probably after midterms So next year the tax reform phase two I suspect will include dramatic changes to inheritance tax. And the other one you might have seen floating around at the moment, i think i saw it in the intercept which is Trump's going to give a hundred billion tax break to the very wealthy which he is that is the change to capital gains rules on investment in US shares That sounds boring but this is kind of why people have sort of retreated into flat earth

28:36 NASA show goldberg stuff because you actually have to learn what. Interesting capital gains and so on are to understand what's happening but at the moment if u, even nineteen eighty you put a hundred thousand dollars into the s&p when you try to sell it now do it in real estate hundred nineteen eighty and go to your house now you sell for five fifty And you will pay capital gains on it, but you'll only pay capital gains in a bit that is outside of inflation. So you'll pay capital gains on the actual capital gains. Now if you put the money in shares one, you'd make more money to be about $900 million to 1.1 million if you put that hundred grand in the S&P rather than a house in 1980. But let's say it's a million, you pay capital gains on a full 900

29:23 So what does that's one of those incentives the governments have historically used to get boomers to vote for them is it made domestic property extremely appealing and also international china i'm going to be as well. So yes a lot of rich people about to get a whole lot more money because if they get that change through you have to strip out inflation between nineteen eighty and two thousand eighteen. I'm in work at what's your actual capital gains are only pay the tax on them but look at what signal that sends to the rest of the money in the world inheritance tax gone and we will quote unquote fairly only taxi one actual capital gains you should buy us companies so you see what he's doing not what is doing but with the plan is a complete reorganization of a kind of.

30:15 Hyper growth of an american economy and that's where the subtext of the various trade wars in smacking you up and down is about. If your watching this do you think he's a lunatic or idiot he may well be but let me assure you if u actually look at the money someone has a plan right yeah that's great i totally agree with the premise that someone has a plan and that this is not The term who was used and beginning i don't think who is accurate because it's just a wiping out of as you say the fulfillment layer but the higher levels of the power pyramid are the ones with the strings in there just kind of moving the marionettes and different direction.

30:58 It's sort of a coup. Like you guys have had several though, if you consider the Bush Gore election and if you consider the assassination of JFK like... You guys are a banana republic when it comes to having coups so people who say that are kind of a bit correct but usually that comes out as Trump is a god emperor here to save the world which is wrong! That is not a correct statement But in a way it is kind of a coup because it was unexpected from the entire bureaucratic infrastructure of the we might as well call it new world order, but that kind of Anglo-American technocratic EU management plan the sort of G7 was not expecting Trump. So it is in that sense a coup but its a coup as you rightly point out of people at a fulfillment layer so I just don't think they got the memo because I don't think they would have been happy with the change because they've got very rich with this central banking warfare empire. Right right oh I just really appreciate

31:55 That whole outlook and to kind of zoom out on things a little bit i wanted to read a quote from your blog that i think fits in well here and also refreshes the memory. Are you say i just keep coming back to charles for its model dominance under the dominant model rules of reality really do change based on what is included and excluded as quote real There's a lot to be said for thinking with that notion when it comes to how you formulate change-making in both your own life and the wider world. As in all things, too often generals are fighting the last war and whatever is going on—whatever has probably always been going on—is spiritual warfare in one sense or another." I really like that! So two things there we talked about the dominant model last time but maybe you could expand on its usefulness

32:45 keeping that model in mind and also of keeping that higher game in mind as opposed to what the generals might be doing. Yes, so here's the real challenge I think with because like you have not pro trump all the stuff that they anti-trump people say is true he is racist he is sexist he's an awful person he's just awful nevertheless 40% of this military intelligence plan is good as far as I can see because it de-risks nuclear war with Russia and you guys are majority American so you might be hearing this going, well actually it is probably good that the global order is being reorganized. As an American the global order is being reorganized to prioritize America for once because America was essentially harvested to fund the growth of the empire

33:35 All your money left to go and get yield elsewhere and now that game is up that money's coming back so some of what's happening is good now a lot of it isn't. A lot of really isn't because they're kind of at that point in the timeline where the fourth turning and there really is, tremendous amount of you know toxicity out right public racism all this like a lot of those concerns are also true so look at it and think general sliding the last war Well, what do we do about that? Because this stuff is disgusting. It's going to get worse too. He's going to bring out the racist sexist dog whistle in the lead up to the midterms but I don't know if you saw the other week that video of him doing both being both racist and sexist about Elizabeth Warren and then also talking essentially about how rich he is which is you know get $1 million dollars if you go and get tested for First Nations heritage and it's just

34:32 Magnificently vile combination of racism and sexism and throwing money around, and he's so good at it. So this stuff is there in the discourse, and it's disgusting So what do you do about it? And this is the generals fighting the last war thing. You look at and go, there is activating so being an activist used to be marching in whatever. Arguably that had some effects during something like Vietnam or Korea but it doesn't now. It doesn't work. It actually makes everything worse. Here's the strategy of it. Like you can be so angry about this and go I need to get on the march

35:10 The march just further reinforces the people that respond to the dog whistle, that they're correct. And as a result it further reinforces the people who might think they left but are actually neoliberal apologists for empire They think, oh well this is getting worse and it is getting worse. So this entire strategy needs to be reconsidered This is the generals fighting the last war you think Well I'm not happy and rightly so about the state of discourse in the world but in particular the US where there really is a lot of gross racist and whatever stuff happening The march is used to work now they don't so what we do if they make them worse we need another strategy and that's kind of where the dominant. Why did inclusions content which is what were in this new world running for turning on their things actually know, there are things we know from a hundred and forty years of research there things people who have

36:00 Take a spiritual journey seriously now which is the spiritual is real and so as a result of this was always cosmic but they are different because make when we know. That's your intentions can fundamentally alter reality i don't just be magic i just mean general intentionality although obviously any magic, anything will happen how does this work if the Collectivist, let's get a big enough group of people and march on Washington strategy will fail. But at decentralized well let's all become little Rivendells

36:38 So let's see how can i make my sphere of influence better how can i make it less toxic the things that i can do how can you elevate them and then you have this kind of my ceiling connection over decentralized people trying to. Change the world millions little rivendell because the decentralize model Is much more that way to inclusion it's not the sort of pre internet so we just need a lot of people together and all in one space and someone somewhere will listen things will change the management of the world is not responsive at all, what did you think should happen not at all you can get all of california too much in washington nothing would change. It's just not going to happen

37:24 What is surprising to me is that arguably, except for maybe Vietnam it's never worked. We're trying to do more of something that not only has probably never worked just looking at the kind of data about how history unfolds and also is definitely not going to work but we do have the data that shows there is in fact something that does! And so its been a real challenge navigating because if you approach that from materialist perspective particularly if your centrist materialists It sounds like inaction and i have to be careful with these words because it's actually the opposite, i see people putting a pussy hats on and going for a walk can i get that in action today because that would do anything. Yeah so i got the hater aid

38:09 Because they see what i'm doing is in action but i think it's actually the only thing that work yes like honestly because the only thing that works so who's the active one here and what a great tea up for the billboard stuff you know right at the right time look at your season pro but let's get into some of that stuff we talked about the archetype of jack sparrow as a model for living in a chaotic world once upon a time And I think movie characters are great templates for people because we're all pretty familiar with them. You did a recent solo show that really dug into Bilbo Baggins and just like Jack Sparrow, probably not a place where a lot of people would expect to find any sort of model but i think you do make some good points what can we learn about the way to approach the world and maybe restore some hope through looking at Mr B?

39:02 Yeah i still have my nineties chaos magic dna which is that sort of interesting pop culture that tends to annoy the more serious magically inclined people. What's my favorite part same like doing that, the jack sparrow stuff still holds from a economic advantage perspective and for at least half the morality maybe even more what bill has to offer and this is when by bill Where we see talking about token in general and his conception of middle earth what's important about that is that he did go to war. And we have the premium members and i definitely have a very young and understanding of what, middle earth is and what bill represents and was talking himself may not have articulated in those terms here so there was a certain kind of reality to this stuff so let me say build over the second archetype but there is a tremendous wisdom

39:59 Looking at his journey vs what you might get in a more recent. I don't want to say action film i don't even know if that's a term anymore but it will reason film that's like an adventure where you have the hero and what generally happens is, Are you star was the example so you practice little farm boy office from and by the end of the trilogy he fights in defeat to be bad. So i did not pay with your whatever you want and that is the heroes journey so that is a sort of encapsulation all individual process it doesn't describe reality very well so its useful to kind of think with the idea whoever you are you are there here when your life but if you look at how you wanna be in the world

40:45 What it is we can actually do what token manage to describe and whether this was intentional in based on the fact that he went to war another student lesson friends and, what it was people fighting for and so on you get bill will be the main character of the hobbit. He's the hobbits obviously any gets swept up by the forces of history So stuff is going on in the world. I noticed it more because after i finished the Q2 course with premium members, I gave myself a few days to decompress and watched for the first time ever the extended Hobbit trilogy all through in a couple of days like I'd seen them before but hadn't done as single session situation. Wow! I don't recommend if you're busy but otherwise do recommend

41:32 And there's some pieces that peter jackson is going to write the token will done better than tell not many but a few and one of them i think in the harbor this kind of build a bit more. tension and importance to the story because one of the criticism that was leveled token after he wrote lord of the rings where you can get an elephant to this amazing character in a huge cosmic battle going on from middle earth so why in hell is gandalf going on effectively treasure hunt or once described as eating tour of middle earth in the hobbit and why did not recognize the ring so it's because the first book is for kids

42:08 and the follow-up book was once Tolkien had more deeply engaged with that imaginal realm, the whole thing comes roaring through. But Bilbo is not a Luke Skywalker hero. He's swept up by the forces of history and moment by moment wherever he is, basically does the best he can in that small way of Hobbits. It does the best he can and he doesn't even end up fighting the main bad guy. He doesn't kill the dragon and he doesn't kill a soccer whatever the big guy that's effectively peter invented so he just sort of there. But this is the wisdom you get from billboard and middle earth and it's articulated in a strange way by gladiolent fellowship with the ring even smallest of us can change course history because, do events would not have unfolded

42:59 If bill had an effective the trying to do his best at every moment winning or not and he's not a hero. He's not the guys that kill the dragons in your fight sarah and all that kind of stuff and that seems to me really good model of, What are potential sources of inspiration for how it is how you decide to do what you can do in the world because u don't get to fight so. You don't single handedly defeat trump or whatever it is, you consider to be sound like that is not for you but your face

43:35 Nevertheless there is stuff you can do and it appears that history works like this. History works in this nonlinear unpredictable way little moments of it is actually macrosweeps on a cycle basis but not being rude to that waitress because you had a bad day You don't actually know if that isn't the thing that changes the whole world. And that's a kind of billboard lesson like you do your best in these situations and generally try not to be a dick, is there a certain so pretty stupid to struggle with trying to make your sphere of influence better. You don't know if you're building you don't know if you were the thing that rules the fate of many which was the kinda really delightful twist in all the books which is

44:21 He decides not to kill golem in the hobbit in the book as well as a movie after he's got the ring is there invisible and you can kill, but doesn't it's pretty good stage will return this line because of that so billboard pity ruled the fate of many because we should jump all the way to return everything. I'm going needs to be alive for the rain to be destroyed And that's the kind of weird spiritual wisdom that you find in talking and i think this suggests, i think suggest a more effective way of. I guess being an activist if we know what the collective approach doesn't work

45:03 You don't know if whatever it is you're doing in your sphere, he's going to be the thing that ends up destroying the ring. And that's really encouraging! That's actually glass half full. Yeah! That's what I'm trying to get across to people is This is settling and this isn't in action it's the opposite and it's a whole new house for me, i have to provide a framework for people really understandable sense of like i need to do something cause the world should be better yes and if you have the options are protesting going to know what i'm actually just gonna try and. Be that little river del See how far i can read and down my life and that's why i think bill is the hero times. I love it i think its a great response to the general doom and gloom and i do you think your ride as well, i've always kind of thought no matter how the conversations were going on the show about how bad things are that

45:59 Trends yeah you can pick out the trend and it might be a decades long trend but trends have counter reactions when they reach a certain point usually an. Here we are talking about this giant pivot and all this kind of shit but in the visual level man what kind of. Bilbo ask butterfly effect as you put it small things without size fate impacts can people do in our world i know we can be nice to the waitress sure but anything more activisty yeah absolutely i mean if u r and i get it

46:36 Your political leverage decreases every step you go up to the point where i mean even at a state level it's zero but like let's just say you get out of the president and its zero one negative. But if u are interested in my thing actually need something media, my goodness if you don't know your share of name when your man is named in the rest of it That's where you start, you actually started a local level and this is that thing Catherine says this as well like a mighty army arises when you do that because the distribution of people listening to the show you must have. Maybe one in every county in us it's not that many counties so there's leverage opportunity there being active at a lower level so its not just trying to be jesus in your day-to-day life from just being nice to people you actually can get involved with the trouble is

47:28 Because of how dominant this macro narrative that you cannot impact is people think that. That's the battle and thats what they need to do but you have never been able to influence a president or monarch, what's up with your never been able to just think can you imagine like what if he dies tomorrow can you imagine being at the gates of st peters gate so what did you do how did you try to save the world in my well I yelled at the president on twitter and i was just generally unbelievably toxic to people around me because i was so angry. Do you try and explain your steps to saint peter and see if your heading in the right direction so there's a local actors and there is also, broadly speaking spiritual warfare does also the fact that you can use prayer intentions who make the world better you can also use your economic cloud

48:19 An individual economic club to buy with integrity. Now that's very often a marketing scam, particularly if you're shopping in supermarkets and so on but it need not be you just need to kind of set yourself up a policy going I'm going to spend the most amount possible the closest distance possible to my house and extend out from there on everything So if you can find... And obviously the people you deal with have to have integrity and so on but there are a bunch of ways that you can start greening the desert by getting involved politically by engaging in spiritual warfare in the correct way which is essentially, trying to make things better around you and praying for sort of macro stuff so not being toxic but going for increased peace or increase tolerance also on these things have been proven to work. There are decades of research behind this kind of stuff so it's not an action instead opposite. And then there's the economic that the thing is depends on your context

49:16 So you can really only say macro things because i don't know what your particular billboard experience would be in the show you mentioned also kind of say like that actually scales up so we're talking about the joint chiefs earlier like if you have a very senior job with the pentagon. I knew i responsible for things like drones striking your many weddings and all the rest of it. In a funny way that still a billboard experience because you have to rely on your personal experience of the immediate surrounds which is your workplace in your room be conscious of the thoughts and, did you bring into it consider them around here either doing this or not doing even though you were told to answer this kind of

49:58 The bill experience of changing the stuff you can around you in fact scales up so it's almost like. The individual thing works every scale so again if we are on your context will determine what is you can actually do And there is some good stuff as well and this is a sense of waiting for. There's some good stuff in the collective action one of them i think you guys have way too many federal agencies right wait to make people with guns that can take me from your house isn't either deport you or whatever it is build up on them so you look at,

50:34 What the centrist democrats have decided to be a wedges you and this is the bit where you can't have to say this but it's not approved from statement because you gotta look at the glass half full which is ice deportation which is. It is looking like i don't care which federal agency start with if i send getting abolished great now move on to eighty f or d a, what are these other like dozen things that does the same stuff for you which is Tyranny, essentially. They're trying to use it as a wedge issue and this is the bit that sounds pro-Trumpet isn't it? It's like a wedge issue for a US policy that long predates the current administration so that's the bit where you've got to be careful and seize the opportunity because you don't want to fall into debate of being like abolish ICE but this is just a continuation of policy That's getting caught in partisan weeds Watch that stuff and go there might in fact be an opportunity

51:30 to start unpicking various federal agencies and if it starts with ICE, great. So that's the sort of weirder higher mind thinking that allows you to combine local political action with... You might be in a swing state that you might have someone who is promising some action that you agree with when it comes to ICE in particular vote for them Cross the aisle if you think this is where we met stage of being that kind of strategic and there's so much stuff we can do. I know it's really bad out there and i know you just kinda have to take a few deep breaths realize that maybe you need to re educate your real good news thoughts about how the world is being managed and just so much humans can't die i've had this conversation as well you actually can be killed by what's going on even if you are physically murdered you're not dead, the thing that you really are country destroyed.

52:25 So there's so much power and people don't realize they're playing reality in God mode because you are God. So it's an attitudinal adjustment that allows you to live your best Bilbo life, I guess. Yeah, well said and you know I like a good video game reference. Something else from that episode that I really liked was the picture you painted of a future that i've never really heard described anywhere else because like he said on the last show you expect anti-gravitic crafts and those sort of quarantine deep state toys to start getting rolled out possibly in the next two years which seems incredibly soon given how

53:08 How political timelines work but we also need to get back to living amongst natural system so talk about this hobbit hole flying saucer vision of the future cuz i thought it was quite creative. No right if you look at how the kind of, stuff that's in the proverbial underground bases probably works in a way that is, the propulsion system by definition and I think Dr. Levy is probably the closest in terms of it being electro-gravitic It's almost development on Tesla in the sense you're dealing with using counter rotation to create like a local gravity effect so that you have that quote unquote free energy. I think that's probably what it is

53:55 I think that's probably the best description is a more accurate way of saying it because inevitably he's going to be wrong because he doesn't build these things right now the implication of that as opposed to how we use hydrocarbons in a combustion engine to propel things around in gravity. Is a quote unquote flying saucer was essentially natural because it harmonizes with how the universe works or else it wouldn't. Now you can kind of make the case that hydrocarbons do because you are sort of releasing their stored energy in a series of small explosions that will then drive pistons, they will then move your car around and yeah fine but that's not actually what I mean. The fact that these things can work continuously and at high speeds in space sort of puts them into different category and is free energy category now you mentioned the farm at the beginning

54:45 The episode the beginning of the year i moved on to a small farm in southern tasmania is very green permaculture design and intention over the next few years too. Really this place and have the house up to my extra that kind of perspective one other things you will find, can the permaculture designers manual way but also more recently retro suburbia by david homegrown excellent book Is this a good record covered no cool coverage is pretty much just what it sounds like the fridge replacement. Set up a ladder that you have in your house and how it works is that you did get trench me to deep, About fifteen to twenty meters long and you put a pipe in it and obviously sticks up so it gets air in the middle of your yard or someone but this is the equivalent of the flying saucer because people in permaculture will describe that as, hey low energy solution but its free energy because it is how you are harmonizing with how the universe actually runs so the air comes from outside

55:43 through the pipe where it's deep enough and long enough that obviously the stored heat gets stripped out so that by the time it sticks up through your floor and into your cool cupboard or fridge replacement The air is cool and the thing is refrigerators haven't actually improved even though they can now text you in say pick up milk order it from amazon and all this other ridiculous monitoring stuff that you don't need a life. Which was science behind why we refrigerate food hasn't changed that much and if anything gotten worse as our food supply chains of length so If you talk to say, I did a documentary on Falun Gong or Falun Dafa. A long time ago so you have Chinese mystics and Chinese energy workers who will tell you that for some reason the chi in western stomachs is really cold and slow and then they worked out oh you guys eat refrigerated food this is not how it's supposed to work but most of the stuff that we keep refrigerate

56:40 doesn't need to be as cold as it is so cheese is a very good example like it needs to breathe and whatever you just put the kind of stuff that doesn't need to be refrigerated towards the bottom of the cool car but then you stack up two things that, need less than again at the top you would have leafy greens and things are gonna eat recently so this. This flying saucer cool cupboard combination is how can one of those utopian things how can you live in a way that the natural functioning of universe Help you grow or improve your life rather than make it worse and there's just this amazing opportunity to start thinking. This is the point of utopia is rather than having fulfilled which never works its kind of dangling at the edge of our perception,

57:27 That's started and to always be hopeful and have it improve so many there is a lot of things you can actually do just by changing your perception about the kind of cosmos you actually live in. Did invites again more optimism yeah i just think that is a great kinda utopian vision for the future because it hasn't really been Put on the big screen you know as much sci-fi dystopian utopian future driven stuff we've been given i never really seen a kind of back to nature paradigm with flying saucer parked in the driveway, and a little habit i think it's very cool near the closest you get is this a little green some of her work but yes my perfect vision for the future so my utopia

58:15 i think it would look like a perfected polynesian society so when multi planetary and you have local governments organized by region. or river catchment, because if you did it this way that's your soul for pollution around the world literally. Same thing once we're on Mars and so there is this kind of combination of high technology us moving between multiple planets and within those planets were actually harmonizing with the local biosphere having that kinda local economy in food production systems that improve the soil and planet rather than make them worse. And the thing is as far I can tell we do have flying saucers, we do have permaculture whatever

58:54 It's not going to happen but my utopia could happen at what that's kind of a thread that i've explored on the show that kinda surprised me that i didn't know i would love so much and others much more to explore, but those kind of alternative scientists who looked for things more in tune with nature like victor schrauber will have right. you know test like gas i've done shows to get into native american abundance engineering is we think they just lived. Like play it as it lies but that isn't the case actually things to engineer the abundance and thats like such a paradigm change in so incorporating all that kind of stuff with high technology deep state toys i mean that is pretty much my utopia two at seems so fun right

59:46 And this is a pretty heavy thing to end on but i got it i gotta ask you because. I think you have an insight into conspiracy magic and psychology which are all involved here but lately, i have seen more than one person i know go through a classic Too deep down the rabbit hole psychological break hospitalization one case and it weighs really heavy on me as a conspiracy but. It also seems to be an archetype of philosophers who think too hard go over the edge classic, the number twenty three kinda stuff that happens with conspiratorial thinkers and magic practitioners n we can use medical terms like bipolar or schizophrenic

1:00:32 But being someone who has what i think is a more accurate model for things like the mind and consciousness and where ideas even come from, how spirits can interact with us sometimes without us knowing. What do you think is happening to a person who goes through that process and maybe never comes back the same because I'm really not satisfied with just the clinical psychology explanation? Yeah, well that's understandable because it's based on a faulty science of mind which is quite materialist. So I want to be clear that having just said that even though the classifications are arbitrary for people out there mental illness is the real thing etc this isn't Tom Cruise statement so there is psychotic breaks and that's what I'm going to talk about now in a way which is fundamentally different or something like bipolar disorder and what have you thoughts are real Greg

1:01:24 That's kind of what you're intimating like they really have some kind of reality if you haven't improved. Which is the materialist one is a hundred percent wrong so any step up idealism whatever you want next step from that urine, a better situation implications of a even ninety nine percent wrong science mind is it thoughts have some reality not just in your head extend beyond its thoughts may have people rather than people have thought switches where you need an idea So they're real which means some of them are dangerous and i don't mean dangerous that you should avoid them but they can fascinate you under the rocks in the same way a mermaid can. Add as a result if you getting too involved anything and it doesn't even need to be conspiracy guess what forest time for meditation time for all these things, is your use really good examples there just various geniuses musical prodigies and all that kind of stuff other than just magicians

1:02:21 Whatever the, however you want to call it. The imaginal or the mind scape or what have you has a reality and very often if you don't know that going in you are in a situation of increased risk of hitting those rocks so yeah and is a case of especially if your under situations anxiety until at the same time like if you want to think these thoughts if you actually wanna follow And once maybe the wrong word this is always comes back to the kind of tea loss and conspiracy in the first place if you feel you should follow these very bad people. Whatever they have to be from a kinda managing the world perspective down that route if you wanna know what it is doing how they think that's some really dark places that you go, can you do that any case of anxiety and obsession and so on then

1:03:18 Yeah you put yourself at risk and if people listen to this are in that situation honestly the headspace app is genuinely even a free version. Will send you out as long as you do it great it's great so i think thats kind of what's going on i think there's a sort of macro understanding of There is a failure to appreciate the dangerousness of thoughts because they are real. And that's kind of societal failure right because we don't think they always say it's just in your head or it's just a dream and so we don't bring the rights where is this too, Going down those dark roads that maybe we should and also because we don't think they're real. We don't think okay Well, I need to just step back from this get some forest bathing on look at the Sun not like in a trumpet clips way But like up in the morning I need to kind of Get back to the analog and the authentic if I'm gonna do this again because it is like that You know this I mean This is your job as well like you can get intense It can get really intensive good. Do you know what? I need to do

1:04:21 Not anymore of this research for a bit. Share that and do great answer always great talking to you good medicine all around doc your podcast have been super great lately you have two new courses since we last talked one on the role of saints in the european magical tradition and another on the greek magical papyri These are the things that any THC fan should consider. It's weird, but it's also high level and very educational. Runesoup.com is the portal. Is there anything else to tell the people about your ongoing projects or impressive workload?

1:04:58 No i mean it's all there is a room so you can find the books if you're interested in membership if u r as well this quarter course is on magical geography and spirits of place and family not be some forest bathing data in it so if you guys are kind of looking for. An updated way of thinking with your local environment from a physical and spiritual perspective that maybe you're jam as well i'm gonna mention that they go, can we close nice again always much appreciated i know you are a lot busier than u once were coming back here for a ninth time probably isn't the first thing you wanna do in the morning but i appreciate it all man i hope people do to best luck on the farm and take care. I would be anywhere else great so thank you very much happy birthday again

1:05:47 BAM people! Gordon White, number nine. Look at that I feel a bit better and thoroughly refreshed. I hope it was clear why we sectioned a big part of this talk around the state of conspiracy culture Because we both enjoy it and we both appreciate it I think it generally offers a more accurate worldview than the bulk of the adopted perspectives out there But I also think it has gotten a little off track from things that are useful. And that's understandable because so many things have changed, so people are kind of erratic and trying to latch on to some new idea. And i mentioned my list of things that are hot topics that i don't find very useful Flat Earth QAnon Dinosaur hoax Australia isn't real These sorts of things

1:06:36 And on one hand who cares about definitions and labels for a show like this but on the other hand if these are the biggest themes today in conspiracy culture by the numbers. Then i sort of have to wonder why after many years im so out of alignment with these things I think some of them might have a little merit, but most of them are silly. And they don't do anything to help us progress It's like we're in the midst of this battle But acting like the disinterested kid on the soccer field kicking around dirt and yelling Hey! Do you guys know these white lines are made out of chalk? When we should really be focused on our opponents barreling downfield towards us

1:07:17 And it also really gets under my skin when the advocates of these positions just dismiss any naysayer as, oh well they're just not woke or they're just not open to this. No I'm open to it! I just don't know that a lot of these things matter that much And i know we covered a lot of these things and i'm sure they will come up again it's not like these are banned topics but what real value are they, where on the totem pole by ideas should they really be placed i would say there little too high right now. I said when i started the show that i wanted to elevate conspiracy culture and that's true. I try to get real career professionals to talk about something like mk ultra as opposed to some neck beard in the basement, because if these things are true as we think they are we don't need a shy away from details and facts let's get in there and when i started this show there were fewer options

1:08:12 I didn't think that we needed the overly christian lens of coast to coast or the screaming pulsating vein in the neck aggression about jones i don't find either those things useful they are things at the time when those were the only options. That were things i'd have to overlook to focus on me which was always so how can i get around this red system how can i really understand what's going on, I still agree that it's good to hold everything up the light and ask the unbiased question is this true or was i sold a lie here, but im finding a lot more people solely focused on that process. And just throwing everything at it and seeing what sticks are seen what generates the most attention

1:09:00 And I think a lot of these things might be distractions from reality rather than tools for constructing a more useful map when we navigate it. And i just love the two-pronged approach of what's wrong with conspiracy and what's the real deal with this administration's agenda? Gordon's take on the imperial pivot offers a lot of clarity i would say clearly something has changed but maybe it's not the god emperor rounding up deep state pedophile networks. So his breakdown from the economic alterations to the possible roll out of big toys all kind of make sense to me and then we throw bilbo in because its fun and there is also something in there to consider as a hopeful template

1:09:45 So all three aspects I find really fitting right now and very appropriate for a THC anniversary. It got me thinking about these concepts all week, and i think creating the world we want locally is a lot more on the table than we realize The tools of networking and influencing those around us seem sort of base level and boring but it's how the elite make the change they want How about you try it around the neighborhood? Another point about the slow drip of disclosure, there was a story going around on big websites that got sent to me a couple dozen times about the pyramids being used for energy generation.

1:10:24 Something we've heard before but this was coming out in a mainstream rollout kind of way almost as if to say, oh we just figured out the pyramids so now we can incorporate what we know into the changes and how we produce your energy. You know? Because they gotta frame all this is new discoveries so I thought that was pretty interesting And in terms of our little recalibration of conspiracy, Chris Knowles must also be thinking about this stuff lately because on the day we recorded this show he released a blog post at The Secret Sun titled The X-Files Exit and the Death of Conspiracy Culture Part 1. It's about a lot more than just what we talked about today but clearly he seen conspiracy culture going off the rails too and how convenient for the Empire right?

1:11:10 It's almost as if they want us looking into certain rabbit holes and not others. Maybe it is just growing pains, I like to think that the internet you know still fairly new and people's ability to do all these further out questionings is just a form of exercising that new ability And its all gonna snap back to the important stuff eventually but I think we all appreciate the shows are personally useful and today we return to that in a big way Use your EnerJack Sparrow for those smooth, fluid movements towards your goals on a chaotic and choppy conspiracy. And then how do we move towards fixing the world when we don't really get to fight Sauron? The Bilbo model! If you only heard the first hour I think there is a lot of useful advice to save your life in the second well worth $8 because we told you how to avoid cancer at no additional cost

1:12:06 But really, the topics included retro suburban solutions. How to influence your neighbors and jailbreak your neighborhood into moving towards Gordon's utopia. Pivoting towards the analog by using the digital. Eating your enemy. Tricks for introducing yourself as a professional fringe peddler. Forest bathing, sun gazing and other beautiful things! So sign up for The Hireside Chats Plus if you haven't already. You've come this far And big thanks for all the Plus members being cool and patient and supportive during the price change. I know I've talked to a lot of you individually, we had a couple small hiccups but i'd say it was a B plus transition and now we're on the other side of it and it's all good! As for the first edition of the joint sessions...I'm still working out exactly which program to use-i'm thinking Zoom But I also have to figure out exactly how to structure it. I'm not used to doing video but I think that's what the people want

1:13:04 And the more i think about it, the more I think what we also want is for the open lines to be available to everyone not just plus members. But then we just archived sessions for on demand viewing for the plus members because i don't wanna have to cut off a caller or roll my eyes at something knowing that every color is a paying customer i'd be forced to be on my best behavior i think we would do better and have more fun if we let in the crazies. And all that's gonna happen soon, I'll probably have a date and time announcement in the next show...I'm thinking sometime between the 20th and 30th but as for today that pretty much does it

1:13:52 I was also thinking about the power of manifestation and ideas and the imagination realm. And, of course it's Gordon's utopian vision that we talked about today and i think the visual is quite potent and we just broadcasted to a lot of people now tens of thousands of people also have that vision And if ideas we hold in our head can manifest and are actually real then let's water that little motherfucker and see if we can't get it to sprout somewhere on the world, and then we can nurture it and model out and maybe im just not a good high and screwed up optimistic but you cant think of anything to meditate on meditate on that.

1:14:34 And I'll see you next time. Your move, Jack Sparrows, Bilbo Bagginses and fellow carriers of the conspiratorial torch! Your fucking move. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas We're going to talk about angels and miracles with Rosemary for a few hours tonight. Coast to yellow Day after Christmas All the angels in his heart What Genesis did right It's getting old It isn't pleasing I turn the station I may be in Not my department Maybe i should shut my mouth Mr. Jones is quite the harlot With all the ads reading out But it's fine

1:15:50 Now that I have THC, I'm feeling more at home than I ever have before. Infowars are just drowning slowly Coast to coast isn't going nowhere These shows are just drowning slowly I'm sure you must feel kinda dirty after each commercial spot Tuning in at a certain hour on demand is what I want THC It's the show that I adore Now, I'm feeling more at home than I ever have

1:17:03 before InfoWars are just drowning slowly Coast to coast, isn't going nowhere These shows are just drownings InfoWars are just drowning slowly Coast to coast, isn't going nowhere All these shows are just drowning