Gary Fraughen | Occult Control, Constructed Culture, & Hidden Codes Of The Power Pyramid

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02:52 Cause we know they're lying to us, just don't know to what degree Where would be without THC? The Higher Side Chat Show Greg Carlwood and company How's it going, Hireside Chatters doing the thing from the Sunshine State. I'm Greg Carlwood and while slavery is less overt in most places in the modern world than it used to be, it has evolved to incorporate most major aspects of infrastructure that we've taken for granted as normal.

03:32 From our entry into the world where we must be registered to the state with our birth certificate, to the legally obligated decade plus of state indoctrination and the nearly legally obligated 60 some odd injections our parents are pressured to put into us just for the privilege of Pavlovian training and propaganda. Then, if you make it through the school system free of debt consider yourself one of the lucky ones but no less obligated to quickly find your place at the bottom of some corporate hierarchy with a promise that if ya just work hard for the next few decades... You might have a chance to maybe replace people who already can't stand and seem even less happy than now.

04:09 And this is on top of the dead fluoridated water, geoengineered skies and chemical-coated slop designed to keep you docile dull and inclined to require routine trips to the medical establishment for temporary symptom relief often at the cost of some new health problem. And going deeper still, the whole system operates under a debt-based fiat currency designed to lose value over time in an interest based lending system that makes sure you always owe more than it takes to live with the haves and have nots being well established before you even came to be. It's not slavery exactly but for many people it doesn't feel far off. Well welcome to the work of today's guest Gary Fraun who has researched all these aspects of our unfortunate situation and more

04:53 Showing that even down to the language we use and the numbers infused into everything, we find ourselves in a tapestry of top-down control and occult derived patterning and conditioning that makes it so many will never even raise their awareness beyond the base level. As for Gary, he started out earning himself a first class science degree and surveying and has worked in the construction industry all of his life. His career had him occasionally fulfilling expert witness roles for court proceedings which sparked an interest in language etymology and the structure of our legal system itself so far He's written three books And what seems like it'll be a series of 10 or 12 when it's all said and done but so far we have putting The Stopper In The Bottle Of Death & The Occult

05:34 putting the stopper in the numbers of death and the occult, and New World Order past and present. And he covers a lot of ground in who better than a construction expert to identify the unseen infrastructure that drives our lives? So let's do it! The Hidden Code codebreaker oppressive occult infrastructure identifier and true champion of the people Gary my man welcome to THC lovely to be here welcome everybody I hope this will be an interesting discussion We just let these things roll as they roll. So we've got no prerequisite, as it were for a pathway of discussion so...we'll just go where it goes and have a good time and if people enjoy it I'll come back! If they don't? It's all good everything is always good. Ah, I like the attitude but thank you for being here

06:25 i know you've done some presentations and conference appearances for the alternative view the organizer john peters occasionally recommends guests that make sense for me and i think, he brought us pierre sabacc a few years ago and he is the one who introduced us as well. And i was impressed with the three books you sent out and i think the overall theme which i tried to capture in that intro Is that there is a lot of intention put into the way things are many things that we just take for granted and it's all heavily slanted against regular people in favor of the power pyramid elite. And the most surprising thing is the depth and detail built into every little thing, is that fair to say? Oh absolutely! I mean The Fourth Book...I'm about a month-and-a-half off. I don't have any intention

07:16 when I write, I just let the books write themselves and then when I'm finished what I think is enough then I write the conclusion of what I've written. So i don't start out with a goal as it were, I let the books sort of write themselves with the information that I've got and then the conclusion is the kind of forerunner to everything I've written about...and that seems to resonate with people People who keep fish don't keep fish they keep water Because the water supports the fish. So I go where the water flows, to swim with a fish is to know the temperature of the water and so I write with that intent. I don't steer people towards my understanding of a conclusion. I let people work with me to find the conclusion and that seems to go down very well in my writing but yeah i woke up in 2001 so I've been awake for a very very long time

08:20 I do express often that, I thought I was going mad for a while because no one saw what I was seeing or the way in which I saw the world. But all these decades later, I'm no longer alone. There are more and more people waking up every day and when I say more and more, I mean millions are waking up every day to this madness and it's coming to an end. So with The Fourth Book, I'm writing about the Jesuits because the Jesuits were behind everything They control everything, every culture, every creed, every color. They control everything and I think they used to be above AI in the pyramid structure and I think AI has now overtaken them because AI is now thinking for itself." And then you've got to ask yourself the question who's above the AI? That's an interesting part of maybe conclusion in book four

09:18 Because we want to know who's steering this. We want to know who is behind all this stuff that we're having to deal with on a day-to-day basis, and if you think about it, it's enormously intelligent – this thing that's running everyone." Yes so i definitely plan to talk about some of the books i have but yes i have some questions about the jesuits because they run everything i think. Right off the bat couple people who've done their own research listening are probably like hey that's not exactly, the way i structure the hierarchy so let's get into that and

09:56 What are the things is i've heard you say and i think people know that the white pope is the forward facing pope that everyone knows in the black pope is ahead of the jesuit order and holds the real power behind the scenes. And you said in previous interviews at the jesuits control, I mean everything including China and even Israel. And i think that's something that a lot of people would question, maybe they haven't heard that before help people understand the true scope of Jesuit power and how they could be controlling even the strings of Israel? Yeah well you've got The Grey Pope as well People don't know about that individual The Grey Pope is the one that sits between the two That's the transient element between the Black and White Pope

10:43 So, book four is interesting in the reveals that I'm coming out with because I've been liaising with two ex-Jesuits and they've revealed loads of stuff to me that...I thought my mind was blown but when I researched it found it to be correct. And when I put things into books something's got to have four points of reference or six and then it goes in. If it's less than four, I don't put the work in because then it's a wild stab in the dark as you would say. And I don't do that so all my work is very much on point for people to see what I see and then they can go off and do their own research. There are far greater minds of mine to do this sort of stuff. So hopefully there'll be a wiser individual out there that can take this work and use

11:40 I used to have a massive ego. My father left me nothing and for many years, I still had most of it when I started to earn real money. You know, I used to drive to work in a Ferrari and I had another Ferrari at weekends exotic holidays and cars and stuff and stuff and be careful what you own that ends up owning you so I managed to grow as an individual and get rid of my ego and shake it off And it's still there, but I keep it very much under control. Well we should all hope to be so lucky as to do that obviously thats part of the journey in life especially in a consumer driven culture that loves to feed the ego and give you a little pat on the back for being a good little soldier in the capitalist system Why go shopping buy stuff you don't need? To impress people you dont like with money you haven't got

12:34 Amen. Yeah, it is a silly thing we're trained to do so you mentioned four points of reference for something to go into the book now obviously the Jesuit book I don't have but give us two other points of reference for the idea that the Jesuits are the power behind let's start with Israel and then maybe we'll do China but what are two big points that you would say to make the case that China is actually controlled by Jesuits? Okay so I don't think he's heard about the heifers that are in Israel at the moment. They've been imported... The red heifers! The red heifers, exactly and they're looking this year about now actually for the sacrifice so that they can rebuild Solomon's temple. So someone has got to press that button and it's not Israel itself it's the great pope who is behind that. That's a whole push culture of Israel China in itself is buying so much

13:35 property, i.e., ports of countries. They're the access controllers for people to receive goods so they're controlling all the ports in the world – in America, in England and Europe. They buy all the ports up and without their go-ahead you can't import or export unless they give you the go ahead. And again, The Black Pope is behind them. I go through this in a book Do we know the names of the current black and gray Pope, or is that kind of off limits? No. That's there. It would be in the books and I go back to previous ones as well. So don't forget Jesuit schools are all over the world so Donald Trump was trained in a Jesuit school here in UK. We've got a guy called Tutte Kirstama he was trained at a Jesuit school

14:29 All these leaders, or I call them misleaders are trained in Jesuit schools. And the Jesuit oath... There's three oaths in the Jesuit schools and they are horrific. They start out horrific and they just get worse each level of which the three degrees which again goes back to Freemasonry are involved in oaths of office so this stuff is so multifaceted there are so many faces to it It's unreal. And during the COVID idiocracy, you know that was a Janice ceremony? I don't know about the God worship Janice. Yeah. I mean obviously Janice it's a big theme of the show actually many guests will say that what the conspiracy culture assumes is Satanism is actually something deeper and more ancient and a lot of people will point the finger at Moloch or

15:30 the Watchers in general, and then sometimes I'm hearing Janus now. Janus, Janus... Tell us about this entity why you think this might be one of the premier entities that is being worshipped by The Elite? Well in Rome, Janus worship was quite important and when The 11th Legion left Rome they didn't use the Janus Cape all other legions that left Rome always went through the Janus Cape And the 11th Legion didn't use the Gannett's Gate and they ended up in Germania trying to break through to get to England. The Germans ended up decapitating all their soldiers from the 11th Legion, and then they hung their heads from trees so that's where there shiny golden helmets were in the sun with decapitated heads. Then the Germans started to celebrate this every year

16:25 And that's where the bauble comes from, on a Christmas tree. And then when Albert who was a German married Victoria in England he brought that celebration as it were into the royal homes and then everyone else wanted a Christmas tree I won't have a Christmas tree in my house because I know what it really means It represents dead soldiers heads So this culture goes so deep In every aspect You've just got to know what you're dealing with. And just going along and following the herd isn't the way to go." The mind is like a parachute, it has to be open to work and people don't open their minds to stuff they just follow along which is disappointing but my work I expose everything about what's really going on behind everything. Another one I use is on the back of your credit card people see the hologram of a dove

17:25 And people are like, they don't realize what that represents. And that was when Jesus threw the money lenders out of the temple with great anger is because if you were wealthy, you sacrificed an ox during that period of celebration but if you were poor or you lent money or you borrowed money to sacrifice a dove so that dove on a credit card represents your borrower and your all borrower So, I revealed all this stuff that people just don't realize what's going on. Obviously I don't have the Jesuit books, so we'll leave some of those details to the future when people get it. But you definitely do include the Jewish elite and a power pyramid in the books that I do have saying they control the six major media companies and the CEOs of Sony Disney Paramount Fox discovery Comcast Columbia paramount dreamworks CNN ESPN Showtime Nickelodeon TriStar vice Fandango time castle rock

18:29 And even TMZ, all these people are Jewish and you include their names in the book. I don't want to go through that list, but you also do a curious thing where you go down into the layer of porn as well saying the ever present hookup culture and pornography industries are owned by Jews Including mind geek, reality Kings porn hub grinder browsers penthouse sex.com X videos bang bros red tube. Okay. Cupid ex hamster plenty of fish match.com and Tinder and you include their names as well. Help us kind of sort out this tangled web because you do have this upcoming book on Jesuit power and these books go pretty deep into Masonic and Jewish power in the history there

19:18 It's really not a contest at this point i guess i'm sure they're all very interrelated but talk to us about some of the history of how these groups got so entangled because it seems like they would be. Somewhat in competition but i guess either they've been compromised or the certain point they just decided to play nice with each other cuz where are the real enemy I get accused of so many different things and yet, I get so many rocks thrown at me. But I'm a builder on hard skin it doesn't bother me let them vent their spleen healthy for them i'm helping them stay healthy by letting them vent their anger. I just go where people sometimes fear to tread if you start talking about Jews you're immediately called anti-semitic. I'm not! I'm just anti cover up

20:13 on the face of it, evidence from the Latin. So if it is what it is no matter where it goes in science...it's called the Occam's razor analysis which is as difficult it may seem to discuss and look at but if the facts are there they're there! The history of slavery again within book three I go into And all the ships that were used to transport slaves were via the East India Company in England, and they were all Jewish owners. And those who sold slaves were Jews." Right. Lopez, Levi, Moses Simpson, Abrams Gomez Roosevelt and DeWolf for the owners like I want people to understand in your books you don't just

21:03 Yes, you know you put the names of these people down. You say the economic value of 4 million slaves in 1860 was $1,000 per person on average four billion in total In 1630 300 thousand white people were shipped from England as slaves That's a thing that we hear a lot like hey it wasn't just black people It was the Irish who is white people and again? It's not a competition but If you look at the history in totality, then you see like it was about the haves and have nots. It wasn't white versus black and we have a culture now that has been seeded for so long to condition us that its white versus black and you have hate crimes and all this racial tension but if we really just looked at the wider scope of slavery again not a competition who is more enslaved

21:57 Who is the bigger victim but you can just see what's look at the people actually did the crime. And who they did a crime to and the commonality is they have power we do not so maybe if we were more united in that divided week had point the finger at the right people, add i just think that this is really interesting section it's obviously thorny for some people but this was a quote i wrote down and I really hope you can elaborate on this but you say with this thing going on in 1630 with the 300,000 white slaves. You say quote London brothels were raided to provide breeders for the state of Virginia. That's interesting so we've heard the idea before even Epstein had apparently women or wanted his fantasy was women chained to a bed popping out his kids as long as they could it's so sick

22:48 that's how a human being would be treated as just like a breeder. But for the state of Virginia, that's a curious detail what was going on in the state of Virginia? That had them logistically work out we need some whores from London to populate this state. Virginia was a state that had a huge overpopulation of white men and they were finding all sorts of trouble with the men at weekends when they They'd rather go and have a fish fight and a few beers than spend time in a marital home. So they thought it was a good idea to bring in women to balance the male-female numbers, if you like, to calm the men down. That's what that was all about but the whole slave thing... We've all gotta get on! We can't have this us-and-them attitude I speak to everybody when I first encounter them like I like to be treated

23:44 And once I know what they are all about, I then make the decision to stay in touch with them or let them go their way and I wish them well. I've got a very different way of living in the world now. I used to wear the corporate suit and the collar on cuffs...and don't forget that's what you do to a slave! you put cuffs on them and chain them, you put a collar on them and then you tie them up. That's where the tie comes from originally it was from Czechoslovakian assassins that the Pope thought was a nice dress culture. And that's where the corporate culture of suit, cuffs and tie comes from it goes back to slavery. Wow! I mean that is really interesting it makes sense and that's what I like about your work most is just identifying why are things the way they are? Where do we get these things from

24:37 And the symbols and codes really are everywhere if i was just to take a recent example last week it was all about the blue origin space flight which not only look like bad cgi but. It's about as phallic as could possibly be obviously rockets are already phallic but they don't always have a pronounced head and shaft like that blue origin rocket does And then, you know, it's filled with women who are all wearing jewelry and necklaces. You would think that might be considered a hazard in a true high G force zero gravity environment. You'd probably, you can't even get on a roller coaster with some of that shit that they had on so that's goofy but the main thing people picked up on was the mission patch where it looks like a goat head upside down. It looks like boffin its head and

25:26 A lot of these things either you see it or you don't or people will say your stretching or not but man if u just think about the process of designing something and if you are tasked with this rocket needs to look like a goat head upside down its harder too. Do it better than they did it's a dead ringer, You can't dismiss it. No, you can't so I like that the culture as you say people are waking up more people are picking up on that more people are looking at the space flight with a critical eye and saying i've seen better cgi in movies armageddon looked more real than this shit that I just saw So we're not just taking it all face value anymore That's a good thing absolutely and with all my work. I mean book one There's certain elements in there

26:17 Most of my followers are actually female, which is really odd. 70 plus percent is female, which is very strange but because I balance my view...I don't come at it from a male point-of-view. I try to come at it from a balanced point-of-view, male and female and that seems to resonate with a lot of females because I don't impose my patriarchy on things. I try to do in a very balanced way There was one element within book one, and I explained that marriage isn't about...I've been married for 24 years and happily so. And I didn't realize it but I'd been through a breeding ceremony. That's what it was we used to have to ask permission from our owners to breed. And that's where the term animal husbandry comes from. So to control a female horse because they see the female as a horse within the ceremony

27:18 It's a mare. And what do you need to look after a mare? Well, you need a groom because the groom looks after the horse and control that horse, you'd need to put headgear on it and that's called bridalry. That's where we get the term bridle wear. If the female mare is uncontrollable then she becomes a nightmare. That's where these terms come from. And if the three trimesters don't happen, the carriage is empty as a miscarriage And everything within a wedding ceremony is all horseshoes. It's nothing to do with luck, it has to do with breeding horses that's where these origins come from I go places that other people just...I look at the world very differently to other people and i'm a constant book reader I go through like two maybe three books a week

28:08 You're going to give cat Williams a run for his money. So yeah, I don't have a TV. I don't have a television just avid book reader and old books as well. And that's a good point too. I love the tell live vision and I love the terms programming in entertainment inner trainment I think that the language is very telling this was a detail kind of along the lines of blue origin just all on the lines of like a mission or. Craft going out and doing a thing and everybody knows about it one little detail in your new world order book that sent me down a fun rabbit hole because i'm super interested in where works of fiction seem to predict major events well,

28:51 I often cite the book futility or the wreck of the Titan as a great example, written by a well-connected sea merchant named Morgan Robertson about the unsinkable SS Titan which hits an iceberg and sinks in the North Atlantic ocean total foreshadowing to the Titanic story 14 years in advance. But then in your book you brought up the events of 2023 and you write As the wreck of the Titanic dissolves, rumors mount that it is becoming more obvious that its actually the Olympic that lies in the ocean floor. Further controversy has started due to the Ocean Gate incident where a private submarine called Titan is visiting the vessel and implodes.

29:32 Some saying deliberately sabotage to prevent its owners and passengers from discovering the Titanic was destroyed by control demolition, not an iceberg. All visits to the site are now banned." So I had forgotten that this submarine was called The Titan which is very eerie it's a more on-the-nose hit for that book And the company is called Ocean Gate which is a term that implies scandal we call everything Watergate Button gate all these weird gates obviously So the name of the company is set up to imply a scandal like this. And then the Titan implodes 111 years from the sinking of the Titanic, which is like just one of those numbers I'm like, is this a ritual too? Wait for it! The icing on the cake... The other book written by Morgan Robertson is called the Submarine Destroyer. Jesus Christ these are the things that keep me up at night Gary

30:28 Well, when I heard the term Ocean Gate that's what got me onto it. It was like oh hang on a minute there is something going on here because I'm always very aware of terms and words so when I see 1111, when I see 33 things kick my mind into place because then they're like oh there is something here, there is something to be found and unfortunately I always find them Because I'm a good researcher. I'm a good digger, I keep going until I find what I need to find. I'm a bit relentless would I say I'm OCD? I don't think so! I've got photographic memory and I am o-recess negative so in Darwin's theory I don't exist because you don't get an o recess negative monkey

31:17 So, I've got all the traits of O recessed neck. So, I've got two different color eyes. I've got an extra vertebra in my spine and I repair extremely quickly. And I was born on Janus Day as well which is interesting so with a secret societies if with intent they'd have used me I think I would have been quite useful to them but I do it the other way. I use my efforts to help people not control people noble and let's talk about blood a little bit it's not necessarily a major theme in the books that i have here but it is a conspiracy theme for sure what do you think is going on there because we don't know a lot about human origins like their definitely seems to be some strange stuff there with all the different blood types and the way that they interact with each other and the effects of day out

32:06 RH negative blood is something that they seem to focus on. They obviously paid a lot of attention to their family trees, the elite did for so long and these genealogies you just see in museums are like 200 generations it's like most regular people can't even go back three generations! I mean bloods really important to them and don't forget the electrolysis with blood we need blood and the first thing they do when you're in you're taken into hospital is they give you salt water because the messages within the bloodline speeds up and therefore it rehydrates you and gets things going good and proper. And another fact that I put into one of the books is that, in Western culture we embalm the dead to preserve them for longer for casket opening ceremonies if you like

33:03 But when they evacuate the body of blood and fill you with formaldehyde, where do you think that blood goes? I don't know. It goes into the drains and it goes into the water system. It goes into the public water supply? The public water supply. Dang! Well, they do have the terms graywater, blackwater ... I never thought much about it but if you have a drain in the mortuary It's probably connected like the toilet or the bathtub, or the sink to... The public pipes. Kind of creepy! Yep. You know blood has memory when you get a blood transfusion they usually knock you out because your body goes into a bit of a panic and you take on the traits of that person's blood that you're taking in so that's why they generally knock you out To get your body to allow itself to settle down with another individual's life source

33:59 So, these things have great importance. And don't forget in 1776...very infamous year for the Americans as well but 1776 Adam Weishaupt when he decided to start the Illuminati, he did it in Ingolstadt in Germany and like I visit in book three with all the year by year growth of The New World Order has increased from a thousand years ago to now Adam Weishatz said, when we arrive and reveal ourselves we will do so on a sea of blood. So this blood stuff and discussion is really important to them. And I even in book three visit literature there are people in literature that were trying to warn us. If you look at War and Peace by Tolstoy the whole story of that one is the protagonist in Russia was trying to set up a branch of the Illuminati and the government went after him. That's what the story is about

35:01 And then if you jump to Mary Shelley, when she was 19 she wrote Frankenstein. And Frankenstein is the name of the creator of the monster not the monster itself so I found that a very strange sway on things whenever people say the word Frankenstein you think of the monster. Right but it's Dr. Frankenstein Yeah Victor von Frankenstein You don't think it's him and in the tale that she told. And I found it quite interesting because I researched her family, and her father was a Freemason and I think he was approached by the Illuminati to join because within the tale Victor von Frankenstein was going to leave his mother's castle and go to Geneva to learn surgery but his mother died and left him the castle where he could undertake

35:51 experiments against God and create, against humanity by creating this thing. Guess where the castle was? It was in Ingolstadt in Bavaria where the Illuminati were set up and I think she was warning to say something's being created here and it's very dangerous and she was only 19. Damn well on the subject of monsters i've actually heard you say that when you go into court you take an oxford english dictionary and a black slaw dictionary and ask which language the court wants to use in that pisses them off but then the book you say, the blacks law dictionary defines person as a thing monster object or entity. Edit defines a thing as tangible intangible dead so a person is dead to the law

36:41 but also interesting that the biggest website for recruiting a person is monster dot com and name that makes no sense without the context of this black slot thing. What else did you learn going along these lines in the first book is so full of the language around law and commerce, It's, it's really crazy in the financial realm. Even like here are some of the words I wrote down that relate to water account current currency balance absorb debtor tender draft trader Cash exchange stocks, bonds channel rebate liquidity watermark circulation frozen assets bailed out flush with cash overdrawn over draft capital loan float use some money bankrupt sunk head above water offshore banking inland revenue launder keel drained of cash income stream.

37:43 flow pipeline of cash and a wash with cash. Now, some of those aren't exactly technical terms towards the end there, but it does go deeper than just hand waving it away as language adopted by sea merchants at the time out of convenience right? Talk to us about just law and commerce and the language that we take for granted It's all Admiralty maritime law. Everything is contract, offer acceptance and consideration. You make an offer someone accepts the contract is clear and then you've got your consideration which is in exchange of something like if your cash or give you chickens... That's what the consideration is so offer acceptance consideration are birth certificates

38:27 pertain to be exactly that, but there's no clarity within what they've actually done to us with our birth certificates. And that's why I visit all that in the first book." So yeah it's about being a slave, being controlled. Don't forget you cannot hang a slave. You can't use those terms. You've got to use the laws of Lynch and Lynch was a guy who wrote The Ten Rules Of How To Control A Slave In America so a free man can be hung But a slave can be lynched, but not hung. You've just got to know what all these words mean and their origins and that's what they cover up. They don't want us to know this stuff because it gets you thinking. And they don't want people who can think... No, they'd want you to be able to run the machines just about. Occasionally someone can repair the machines but doesn't know how to run the machines. But a man that can repair the machines and run the machines then he becomes dangerous

39:26 So, two types of people in the world. There's those who lean on people and those that lift people and I'm a lifter you know? I want people to be where I am at or above me. I want people to have their little ones as they call them halflings. I don't use the terms that people use every day I want their halflings to be far more intelligent than me and i want them to know stuff early on so they don't have to unlearn and then relearn again because that's what the process i had to go through, and that's quite painful. I want them to know the truth from the outset because it is easier then they've got the big picture. And that's what it was all about, right? Yes. So the rabbit hole of the birth certificate is something that I went down a couple years ago. The Jordan Maxwell stuff really woke me up to just how crazy deep it is and

40:21 When you have the straw man argument you know you have the name and capital letters that's the legal fiction and your representing the legal fiction through your life. Can u go on to say that energetic language is really infused into, do the. Justice system in the sense that a person is charged with the crime if you refuse and arrest u go to a holding cell where you could be bonded out these are all terms of electricity. And assault and battery would be when one person hurts another hurt says the term we use for measuring electricity

41:01 Pretty interesting that it's all energy based and you say a lot of this comes from the papal bulls where specific ones were created to enslave humanity. The church created a flat earth system during these people, bulls four corners rule as you say they made 3d people 2D by bringing them down to paper elaborate on some of that history and how things that end up in the justice system in the legal system actually have an origin and papal bowls Yeah, well it's not justice. It's just us and we're not partly us." Which Carlin used to say. They needed the paperwork to create the legal fictions in The Person so they needed to take us from a 3D creature that walked the earth in a flesh-colored skeletal thing onto paper. So that's why they invented the four corner rule which was to get us onto paper and therefore create The Person under the birth certificate

41:59 And in the UK, when you get an official document from the government it's a brown envelope and there is window on the envelope. There is box that sees through the envelope your name is in it. Well, the brown represents the soil, the box represents your coffin and your name is in it which is why when you sign any legal document has to be black ink because that represents concealed blood if you do it in red ink they will refuse And it always says sign within the box. That means you're going to stay in your coffin because if you saw an outside the box that represents, you trying to get out and they don't like that. Interesting. I never really thought much about that but it is funny that the three main colors of ink are red blue and black all represent blood in one stage or another. Well you got the Blue Bloods haven't you? Those who rule

42:49 So that's their color. Our color is black and red is those that are alive or the controllers, so they know what that represents or represents and that's why royals walk on a red carpet. That's not a red carpet, that's a bloodline. That's their representation. All this stuff I write about gets quite convoluted but I try to put it in such a way people can get it quit easily as opposed to struggle with thought processes I put it in such terms that not only the lump of proletariat, but those that also have an intellect in themselves can see this stuff and then share the information. It's important everyone needs to know... The little ones need to know urgently they should be introduced to this stuff very early on because then everything else just as they try to be indoctrinated

43:44 it won't make sense to them because they don't have the full process of saying hold on that really means. Yeah, you know we were talking about this a little bit before we got started that I have two young kids and I struggle with how to go about this because I don't want. Create weirdos that are so outside the box that they can't even enjoy having friendships and relationships with regular people cause it can get to that level. And I also don't necessarily want to make little mini me's. And I also think there's something to be said about awakening and the

44:20 And the realization of some of these things, like what it have the same impact if I wasn't indoctrinated and asleep for the first 1618 years in my life. I kind of think that like using the matrix analogy, if you start awake You may be take for granted how mind blowing the awakening process can be and how everyone else is asleep so i'm kinda trying to balance that with my own kids like. I kind of want to shepherd an awakening but i don't necessarily want them to not see the system, what it is for at least maybe a decade or so where they're still living under my roof i dont know exactly how to go about it but im trying to thread a delicate needle

45:08 I've got over 20 godchildren, so I literally am the godfather. There you go! We've got no children of my own but i get to hand them all back with a broken leg or whatever because that's what happens in my house it's chaos. Over the Christmas period, poor Christ's mass period, my house is full of other people's children who all get on and they all help each other and I find informative years of introducing some of this stuff is about 11. If you do about Then you can make it fun like once a week just say, have you ever thought about the banking system and their reward terms and explain it. And then they'll take that on board. They won't realize it up front but they will take it on board. Onboard another term for ship? Yeah so yeah when a word comes up about banking or whatever You just throw in there and say remember what that meant? They were like yeah means your ships turns to make it fun don't make it

46:09 Yeah, the blood in the water system. You end up drinking... You do it in such a way that they just become inquisitive and that's what I've done." It's almost like you're giving them a suit of armor to protect themselves from indoctrination because they're looking at it from a different perspective. They take on board what they are being told but in their own mind's eye, they've got that self-doubt about what they have been told And that makes very interesting individuals because then they're starting to think for themselves. And that's what you want, you don't wanna teach someone what to think? You wanna teach them how to think and once I grasp that and they think for themselves, then you've got a beautiful spirit in the world. That's uh, what we're going for so sticking with energy a little bit like those terms about being arrested and charged and all

47:02 You had this career in surveying and architecture and construction, and you talk about cathedrals being energy centers. This is a theme I'm very attracted to it's just super interesting so some of the examples are very visual like a charge coil looking exactly like a meditation maze that you'll find on the floors of several cathedrals. Like why is an electronic device? The same as this meditation maze So I've even heard the point made that cathedral and cathode are related words. How has your expertise and career helped you understand the original purpose of these buildings as energetic in nature? I was also qualified as a ecclesiastical surveyor, and you have to go through a lot of training in religious architecture to understand what you're looking at in terms of the buildings

47:58 if you like, as you're trying to analyze if a building's got difficulty or is in trouble in some way. So you have to be taught the reasons behind some of the architecture. I mean people don't realize that vaults under church that you don't have straight floors they are all concave. All the floor structures are concaves and pews in our church are designed in such a way that they're designed to be knocked over So when they're knocked over you haven't got a flat floor because in the Bible the devil has no ankles and therefore cannot walk upon anything other than a flat floor. So, there's reasons behind all these elements of a church. The original name is Kirk and a kirk is a place... A Scottish church, they don't call them churches they call them kirks and kirk is the word for Mother Cersei that she lived in the woods and would take you in feed you and then eat you which as in the tale of Conan the Barbarian- Hansel and Gretel? These witches in the woods yeah they're all about Mother Cersei

49:03 So, when you break all this stuff down and you start looking at a Kirk and understand what its architecture is all about. And then you find these Schumann resonance patterns in the Kirk's floor. A Schumann resonance is one of these things that you can charge your mobile phone up with just by throwing them on it. Also, you can discharge your mobile very quickly. It takes an hour to charge your phone up but you can discharge it in four minutes And these human residences, they're all over the world. They're in churches, kirks all over the world. They exist and so were they energy devices? It's worth a discussion and then you've got all the other histories that go along with the churches their patterns, their layouts, the topography direction in which they've been constructed... They're all identical and were they machines that gave people power or removed people from power

50:01 Given all the patterns of the windows and ideas on Tartaria, it's a whole thing that needs to be looked at and discussed. But the authorities don't like that." So I think we've had a number of resets, and we're in a reset at the moment. And it's about holding onto the pre-reset story recorded or have it dated because otherwise lest we forget Yeah, I agree with that. And I think part of the error and maybe the conspiracy research that goes into cathedrals and the idea of Tartaria and old antiquity is I just think that we've been tainted by Hollywood to think these things are so Epic when really they're pretty subtle but you can look over at electroculture and some of them

50:56 spiritual meditation people and see that there is an effect of just a pyramid structure just copper mash. Structure of a pyramid put over some plants will make them grow it doesn't make lightning strike in, you know swirls from space come around their you know that point it's not super noticeable or epic but it is an effect and i think that probably with these cathedrals it was something similar you're going in here, you're probably taking something a little stronger than wine and cracker your looking at these stained glass psychedelic windows your hearing the chanting your hearing the pipe organ.

51:37 And you're also under the spire that is drawing down energy a lot of these things are very close to what indigenous cultures do outside the chanting the drumming. Rhythmic getting yourself into a certain ecstatic state so you just do that and throw a little bit more on it put in this building make the window stain glass they say the same thing about persian rugs persian rugs are very psychedelic because people were looking at them while tripping and having experiences and then they said hey magic carpet it flies going back to. Some of the christmas stuff i mean that's what john michael allegro said is that, people are eating mushrooms that came from reindeer shit they grew in reindeer shit and their watch in the reindeer fly so we have two different cultures totally separated that are

52:29 Having these traditions of flying based on something very near and associated that is psychedelic, i think that the churches in cathedrals are somewhat similar before they were co-opted and taken over by religious authorities. Yeah i mean snow white and seven dwarfs all the doors to drug users you're dopey let's sleep happy All supplied by the dealer. Who was at the dock? Yeah, I love that in your book. This is really funny because this came up recently on the show that I don't even know it might've been cut from a previous interview actually but there are some people who say that the seven dwarves are the seven chakras and there's some that say they're the seven deadly sins and you can find like five out of seven are decent matches but it falls apart a little bit like

53:16 don't be i mean it's not send to be dumb but you know sleepy could be slot like there some analogies there but, It's a much better analogy to say that they were coke heads because it's the stages of drug use. It's the stages of cocaine. I mean, I've been around a little bit, but you know, happy angry like when you come down your angry than your sleepy dopey have done too much and then yes, the leader Oh sneezy also like, I mean some of that stuff messes with my allergies shouldn't be putting stuff up your nose Bashful, maybe that's the one that is the least associated. But yes all supplied by the Doc and what does Doc have? He has a little fanny pack where he gots powder in there and Snow White! Snow White right there you got the snow, you've got the white I think you nailed it i think its a coke thing. Once you see this stuff in my work some of it very dark but try to keep quite light as well

54:15 And at the end, I always try to have solutions. You know i'm not about just throwing popcorn at the TV and walking away it's about having solutions and balancing your mind's eye so that you can go about your day. You're just looking at the day a little bit differently than you did yesterday. Amen! As we're kind of wrapping this thing up I've also heard you say in interviews that we live in a false flag reality. And I agree that if you look at almost all major wars or big radical changes, they're usually triggered by an attack that often has a lot of red flags or false flag indications in there well, they say were at the doorstop but world war three and the doorstep of world war three, I guess.

55:04 It's hard to talk about these things when they happen because everybody is so highly charged and emotional, like the Israel thing that happened October 7th or 8th. The hang glider thing you can't talk about it because everyone's so highly charged while we are in a period before everybody is going to get super highly charged by something that happens What sort of false flag would you consider to be most likely to see the real reality of world war three kicking off? What would you look for that might come to pass in the next year or two financial collapse, financial collapse. Yeah well they're working on that pretty hard over here. Yes. Financial collapse because the dollar runs everything and if the dollar collapses and everything will collapse

55:55 And things will get very ugly, very quickly because everyone will want their stuff. And if they haven't got the money to pay for the stuff then they'll take this stuff and then you've gotta think... I think the American dynamic is there's like 16000 people to every one police officer. The police aren't gonna be out there are they? It's not a job you're gonna be wanting to do so that's when things get really difficult There needs to be a new currency for Defna. And even all the stuff I write about this dark, you know the legal system could work or it is legal. It's not lawful difference between legal and law are two very different things common law and illegal. All these things could work only it's being run by the madman. You know the madmen are running The Asylum and if they behave themselves then everything would be good right?

56:54 Inhumanities if you look at the aboriginal system in the american indian system, the success of the village was always viewed by how to porous man is doing so that gave a judgment of how good the leader is. And one thing you had to do if you became in charge of the village, it always looked after an old age. It'd always be cared for. You'd always be fed that the one thing he had to do when you became the chief is give everything away that you owned to the village and you could never ever own anything again for the rest your days because all your intention is for the best for the village not yourself. We call those people savages

57:35 Well, I don't see many politicians behaving like that. Do you? No no God no so yeah i think financial collapse is definitely there and then you know there's also the argument that if ya can trigger a financial collapse well now you gotta trigger the war cycle because how does money get going again it's always with some war and the gas i've had a have said most likely we might see the u n perform a false flag on the us and blame russia to engage us back in that thing that we kinda got away from or of course israel they love to do false flags israel my

58:15 Do a false flag on the U.S and blame Iran, so it'll be blamed on Russia or Iran. It'll come from the UN or Israel most likely in China will take Taiwan while the US is over committed." Well, Israel quite dangerous because they have something called the Samson response which basically is if they don't exist in the world then the rest of the world shouldn't exist. That's their mentality Yeah, so they're mutually assured destruction kind of thing. Yeah. Fun! That is just insanity on steroids It is man. But what do you think about those possibilities? Do you think that, and I only say obviously I'm in the U S so it's us based but it is the largest military and if you're going to try to kick off a world war, you're going to try to trigger the largest military to act. And these would be some potential triggers, some powder kegs that are sitting there. The UN, you know, was a little mad at the US right now like, Hey get back over here, send the tanks, send the missiles over to Ukraine

59:18 And I could see that being a catalyst saying, well we had to do it. We had to perform this action for the greater good. I think that's how they get these little foot soldiers to act but I think those are the two most likely. It's a role reversal of the Cuban Missile Crisis isn't it? The only reason Russia is kicking off is because they're having weapons on their back door. Is same with Cuba The communists were moving missiles into an area where it was easy to reach Florida with such weapons. So what's going on now, it's just a role reversal and America has got involved because as I say there they make more money out of war than any other culture at the moment. It used to be the British, they were good for a long time but that's been overtaken by the good old USA but the people don't want this

1:00:14 It's the misleaders that want this. And they're arguing among themselves, you know, mine is bigger than your situation and they are moving weapons onto their back door The Russians have the right to say, no we're not having this. We don't want this. They don't exist now and they shouldn't exist so stay out of our sandpit and we'll stay out of yours." Yeah I agree and I think the game that the elite have always played is further centralization and you have a thing like NATO where if anyone in here Has any kind of problem than the whole machine has to respond and it's like yeah you are setting up the conditions for a world war to happen where no one can say no because your redhead on a piece of paper that you must now go kill six figures were the people, it is really insane black and white movie peter sellers what was it called doctor strange love table at thirty people sitting around a big guy shaped table. And two guys kick off and they still have my god.

1:01:15 And Peter Sellers gets in between them and separates. Let me say, gentlemen, there's no fighting in here. It's a war room. That's the mentality of these people, right? We just plan the fighting. They do it out there where we're safe in here. Yeah. The script kind of stays the same and is just the characters that rotate around. And it's crazy that they keep so many people distracted into sleep when they don't really change the tactics all that much. It's not that sophisticated. So it is kind of sad that more people don't realize it, but. Man this is been really enjoyable we covered a lot of ground in these three books and even if you book tell people where they can see your presentations get the box all that good stuff. Yeah i got very simple website don't use amazon anymore, i've got enough followers to do my own thing very peaceably but if you go to carry format f r u g h e n g a y f r a u t eight p m. Gary from Dakota UK

1:02:16 It's all there. Love it! Come and have some fun. Yes, well thank you for doing it I look forward to how deep the future books are going to go and keep up the great work and take care You'd look after yourself than yours...I will try So say we all it is good to be back This is one I recorded right before the big trip to Amsterdam and Monaco Had to make sure I had something on deck when I got home didn't know what kind of state. I would return in Travel in general is pretty immunosuppressive for me, but it worked out I'm feeling good And of course the Pope died in the time since

1:02:58 Always some sort of relevant news when I try to take a quick break and we started this episode talking about the White Pope and the Black Pope as an example of Jesuit control behind the curtain. Jesuits are certainly up there, and I think in the realm of charities and land ownership through charities there's probably a lot to all that but i'm still a bit unclear on the arguments that the Jesuits control China and Israel Again, clearly they're high on the totem pole but I just never heard that specifically before. I wish I had the Jesuit book to suss out more detail there but thats why i like going through his books in general Lots of material and often times he gets beyond the same old stuff And I tried to be sure to pull out the most unexpected or unique things that he chose to write about

1:03:49 His new World Order book really is a super thorough 70 page timeline. I think it's worth having handy for anyone This was a plus show thing, but it's great to have someone cover the Deagle depopulation numbers again A lot of people seem to have forgotten that But of course it was a prediction made about this year And I never want to overemphasize it, they aren't some all-knowing organization. Conspiracy culture just latched onto it because as a serious forecast its so damn radical and bold that it makes people think how do we get from here to there? Now were in that year and its already May basically close to halfway through and sure theres a multi front World War 3 looming but

1:04:35 I think it's closer to what Gordon has said based on his blended cycles. It's more of a next year thing, which also lines up with what the ladies said to Chris Bledsoe funny enough if you want to incorporate that sort of data too and World War III wasn't even the justification Gary had for those numbers that's just what's in my head he thought it was more of a jab sort of thing and...I don't know? I think there are subtle effects to the jab that we don't know about yet SV40 in previous instances with polio caused cancer 30 years later so there might be a long arc on this thing but if you're looking at the number and you're trying to reverse engineer how it could be possible yeah, the jab would have to be in the top three speculative answers for sure I don't know if its my number one though. But either way 70% population reduction in the US is insane 78 percent in the UK

1:05:32 And you never know, the way consciousness seems to affect reality? Maybe they just seed this stuff hoping that if enough people believe it and think that it comes from some sort of authority on the matter maybe we bring it about just by expecting it. I'm sure that's at least being studied to a pretty intense degree and of course I wouldn't want to contribute to that but the point is that a lot of predictions get made and thrown out but we don't follow up on them near the actual time they were referring to and I'm glad that happened today. We did it in the second hour, we also talked about land ownership and Jesuit controlled charities currency and economic symbols and important laws the power of numbers and the science of magic squares champagne and giants that was a weird one though i am no sommelier

1:06:21 We talked about the influence of the Frankfurt School, history and cataclysmic resets floods and pole shifts AI and the cloud and the Akashic Record. As you know we are 15 years independent and ad-free based on the subscription model and it can all be yours for the low cost of eight dollars a month links at the top of the show notes yada yada But Gary ended up being a pretty good suggestion. Thanks to John Peters for that, he's highlighting good stuff at the Alternative View. Click on the links there and the show notes as well! And it's good to be back home. Not a lot to report in Hireside News, but let's check out the rating of the last show which was Ryan Bloodsoe which was a 4.6 I already looked but that is solid Lots of people have feelings about Ufology and that whole world and the figures in it But I think it deserves a good score lots of random fun stuff in that episode

1:07:21 And in the time since that interview, Joe Rogan had hell put off on of all people. I haven't listened to it yet but how could i not? Also Lou Elizondo is out there with another fake photo or at least a highly suggested fake photo...I guess there's no way to really know But he's becoming less trustworthy with every announcement Which yeah, I'm happy with that interview with Ryan getting a 4.6 can't complain Trying to keep the quality high, but conversations are organic. You never know exactly what's going to happen and as for the meetup calendar The other thing we do every time around here The next events on deck would be going all the way down to May 26th Gail Braths ale house in Auckland New Zealand I feel like I've said that many times

1:08:13 I think it's recurring. And then June 1st, Huntington Indiana Heartland Harbor and June 8th in San Antonio Texas at Halcyon South Town also one i think i've called out before love san antonio thoroughly enjoy that river walk But yes, only three events in the next 30 days. I would say hop on higher side meetups dot com RSVP if you want to go to one of those or create your own event it's free it's open to anyone who wants to do it and it helps expand your local network especially when things get a little hot

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