Freeman & Jamie | Award Show Rituals, Tech Magick, & CERN

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00:51 Here we go, Ironside Shatters! How the hell are ya? Better every day I hope. Drinkin' a little drink, smokin' a little smoke and trying to find some inspiration and relief in a system of rule lookin' to suck out every last drop... but we're tryin not to let them get us down from sunny San Diego you can call me The Carl Wood And today we're focusing on some major areas where we see occult references, rites and rituals where they probably shouldn't be. But folks it's no secret by now that our planet's puppet masters have a plethora of tools at their disposal in the quest for humanity's control and we've identified many patterns and programs from their dominant playbook but few are more clued in than today's guests

01:27 From magic rituals and Hollywood mind control slaves to secret space wars in the technological singularity, Freeman and his wife Jamie are the conspiracy culture power couple behind the content at freemantv.com and of course Weird Stuff Volumes 1 & 2 I always have a great time talking to him and I'm psyched to have him back. Are you ready for a perfect storm? My friends and yours, guys how the hell are ya? Hey good! I like the Katy Perry reference there Oh yeah gotchu, gotchu You're ready for it Yeah fill me with your poison let's go Man, there's so much to talk about. The elites plans are churning, CERN is whirling and the symbolism seems more aggressive than ever And it's probably a great place to start because you guys have been decoding this symbolism and watching the messages that come out through the mass media for So long that you've actually had some predictions lately that have been pretty damn accurate right? Yeah yeah indefinite relationship to even either of the major award ceremonies or those Super Bowl

02:28 So, you know the big difference here is that a lot of people get their information via the internet and there are few mistakes in the internet. Molec is not an owl has never been an owl right? But these type of, or the Illuminati. The very term, the name, the use of that is a misnomer it's a false flag in its own way so when we start to look at the puzzle we always have to dig deeper and actually crack open a book or two check out some archeological anthropological information to really get to the source material so that you understand but what we've learned is that it's very difficult to derail

03:10 Misrepresentation so every time i try to discuss molecule not being an owl you know uh... i get this huge battle and We sit here and we look at the actual reference documentation. We are reading the magical books, we are reading the Typhonian trilogy and getting deep into the archaeological history of the Sumerian gods and things of this nature – the hand signs and gestures that people are talking about. We have gone in and codified and identified them so that people can actually feel strong in what they're saying about these situations

03:48 So as a prime example, when we began discussing the Mark of the Beast. Now this was a little piece that we pulled up out of the Typhonian Trilogy. There are orders of magical practices that are integrated into our society or culture, our corporations and our government And one of the ones that we've been focusing on is the Typhonian order of the Ordo Templi Orientis. Now, I know that sounds all crazy but the Ordo Templi Orientis translated means The Order Of The Eastern Templars

04:26 And it was a magical order that claimed a descendancy from the Illuminati of Bavaria all the way back to the Knights Templar. It is the current magical order that is mostly referenced in our high-profile rituals at things such as music awards or the Super Bowl And so as we were digging into these books, now I'll tell you you're reading some weird stuff. You're learning about the Mauve Zone and places... Transplutonian magic is what it's called? Yeah exactly! Because the Typhonian order is a specific order of magic that wants to channel extraterrestrials

05:07 And this group has been around since Aleister Crowley, 1904 and has been in action and is being practiced by so many of our celebrities. We know that like David Bowie the Rolling Stones The Beatles Jimmy Page Led Zeppelin they're all members of the OTO Right? All right. David Bowie, when he sings, he's singing of the references to the rituals within the OTO. When you look at The Rolling Stones cover they have The Scarlet Woman on her satanic majesty's request. That's the name of the album.

05:47 They so this is the most embedded order of magic that's coming out through our popular culture and so when we say that the mark of the beast. Is the x-men logo it's not because we just decided oh this will be a keen one to follow look this symbol is everywhere, we found in the magical works of the typhoon in order of the oto So here we are looking at this thing going wait a minute now This book is and this is the foundation for the Super Bowl prediction that we made so this is all going somewhere. Yeah, yeah because as As we started to uncover that symbol and look at this situation And okay, so that that is what they call the mark of the beast the O in the X and before

06:33 I mean when we first brought this to the surface, this O and X symbolism as the mark of the beast. it wasn't as prevalent. Of course you saw it on X-Files, you saw it on X-Men, and certain places... Xbox now too right? The xbox the Macintosh OS 10 the operating system is now. Beyonce has a song called EXO with the dance. Russell Brand had a short lived TV show called BrandX with again the circle in the X. His picture's in my book! with that big old trophy with the X and the O in it, between his legs even. Because it's a sexual symbol! It's a hermaphroditic symbol I think weird stuff is where I learned that Oh cool

07:15 Okay, so all of this really to state that we are following a well-founded thread that we have been discussing for a decade and have not had to change a thing. As we look at these signs and symbols that are represented through the OTO and they're brought up in these high profile rituals were constantly right when Madonna came out on the Super Bowl and she was performing her 33 minute sermon as she called it She is of course a Kabbalistic priestess And she showed that Mark of the Beast on the stage numerous, numerous times. With a VV in it too! With the VV which was another symbol all the way back when W was being forced into office I was talking about the connection to the VV and the fallen angels and how this related. So all of this we've been talking about since George W Bush was in office right? Yeah

08:07 And so yeah, so we after seeing them display these signs and symbols which we were the only people to unveil this to the public eye, then we said okay maybe we got a little more confidence in this and maybe we could start making a prediction. So Jamie decided to lay out what she thought she would see from Katy Perry at the Super Bowl Well I did this whole series of articles on Beyonce that i started actually back in 2009 or something when I noticed she was getting really huge and Published them until this year. So there's a lot of content in there right now, but I was just following her career in relationship to what he was talking about the OTO symbolism and the Scarlet Woman and the robotic and the alien things and Yeah, basically their goddess is the Scarlet Woman Babylon so all these symbols they were placing on Beyonce as the Scarlet woman And I said well if they want to get really In-your-face with it They're gonna have to put

09:09 A girl riding a cat-like beast. A giant, cat like beast. Interesting... Right Let me just say that I had added one more layer to that because that had taken the occult magical aspects of it, which she'll explain why she picked that out. But then we were looking deeper into the mind control aspects of this and how that would be shown out to the public and so we knew that Katy Perry was a reflection of the military industrial complex. Yeah big time! She would even wear dresses with Obama's name ticked off of the ballot, right? Her dress was the ballot and it said Romney or Obama. And it was checked off Obama. She was using her videos to show that part of me where she joined the military. Yeah yeah so we knew she was a military girl So we looked at the triggers of mind control

10:01 and one of the main triggers that comes from the idea of a presidential model slave which is like Marilyn Monroe and up, we consider her Katy Perry to be in this position. Now probably And so I said that the cat-like beast would also be glittery like diamonds or set up like diamonds So he said a diamond cat-like beast That's how specific we were Well...so i said a cat-like beast because In the book of Revelation you have a whore of Babylon riding this beast up out of the abyss with 10 heads and crowns. I can't remember which is which, but this is on the tarot card of Aleister Crowley called Lust. And she's holding up the grail for the serpents of the ether to feast on, which they say what's in the cup is the blood of the saints and even the beast is trampling on praying hands and stuff like that

10:54 And so there was this one instance that I read about where Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard who were OTO, Jack Parsons actually his house wasn't OTO lodge they were doing a magical working and Hubbard saw a vision of Babylon riding a great cat-like beast and they recorded this as part of their Babylon working. And so I said, you know that's probably something that they're going to bring out because it's not exactly like the Whore of Revelation like you can't pinpoint and say oh that's definitely The Beast Of Revelation but its just one step away from that with The Big Lion right?

11:32 And so she's riding a lion and why is she riding a big lion when the song says I have the eye of the tiger? Right, yeah. A lot of people probably just gloss over that fact. Right and so lions...I mean you can go crazy with symbolism behind lions because they are sacred to the goddess Inanna. So Inanna was the first Holy Whore, the prostitute courtesan of the gods and this is what the first goddess that they're all emulating in my opinion is Inanna because she became Ishtar in Babylon and that was The Whore of Babylon. And so you can find all these reliefs I mean the oldest Sumerian Anunnaki She was one of the Annunaki okay? Inanna was...and You can find her riding on a back of a lion with a leash on it just like Katy Perry did

12:23 So that was like the first kind of goddess that they brought out in the Super Bowl and then I kinda took the lion thing and ran with it because some things i've been picking up about what's coming down the pike in Satanism, because they're always trying to push the envelope and make this society more satanic but In my opinion the lion for them means cannibalism Whoa. Okay, yeah I hadn't really even thought about it till Jamie really brought this out that the lion would really be the primal fear of man

12:59 That was the one creature that was above us in the ancient food chain. And there was this story from a satanic ritual abuse survivor named Kurth Barker, and you can look up his books but he had a story about these two sisters that were part of the satanic bloodline who were lovers and they kept naked slave girls and had a Egyptian temple in their basement. And instead of the Sphinx's faces, they had their own faces because all this Satanism is kind of about self-worship and making yourself God what we call apotheosis right?

13:39 So they told him the story to the Satanists, the lion means cannibalism because this Sphinx originally had a lion's head because the line was top of the food chain in that area. And then when the Pharaohs began to practice cannibalism they changed the face of the lion to a pharaoh to signify that that was the apex of the culture That's interesting, I've never heard that about the Sphinx. I heard people think that it might have been made when it was aligned with Leo but I'd never heard that about switching into a Pharaoh because of being the apex of the Fujin and that's pretty interesting Yeah Jamie... Jamie... I find the weirdest thing She has an extensive satanic library

14:20 Well that's awesome. I mean obviously Katy Perry is one of the major pop stars that has been used as a canvas for a lot of this symbolism and we've talked about other celebrities in the past and what makes up a monarch mind control slave but, As you've been looking at Katy Perry's career and background what are some aspects you found that fit the typical profile for these monarch victims? Like why her?" Okay, that's a good question because what I found when i looked into her childhood was a very very strict Christian upbringing and this is something she has in common with Aleister Crowley and a lot of people who turn to the dark side because they were abused by Christians so they're just trying to find their right place in the world. And they're saying you know if

15:03 God and Christianity and Jesus is the abuser. I'm going to turn the opposite of that, and be that right? So she was very sheltered. She said the only book she could read was the Bible and she knew what hell was before she knew what anything else was, and so she was pretty traumatized and sheltered by this childhood but then digging a little deeper I found out that her father before he became a pastor was a rambling hippie dude who dealt acid for Timothy Leary Now, in our realms just when I bring up Timothy Leary you should have a lot of lights blinking up right? Ding ding ding. This hits all these things because Timothy Leary believed that he was continuing the work of Alistair Crowley. He thought he had his spirit in him. He thought you know Theodolema was the way of the world and so he was putting this into the subculture of 1960's all along. Hmm... It is odd that she would have that connection

16:00 Yeah, imagine that. Katy Perry's dad dealing LSD with Leary. Right and we know how involved the CIA and the Leary crew was in influencing music and putting drugs into music I mean it's not a far stretch to think a guy who is in that circle would allow his daughter to be used in some similar way But then something altered his complete course. He had a spiritual epiphany and he just turned to Christ like overnight And this caused strife within the family didn't it? Well, and then his wife Katy Perry's mother Her family...Katy Perry's mother had a rich family from Santa Barbara So that's another kind of like red flag right there but they disowned the mother for marrying the Christian Katy Perry's dad Wow

16:51 But now her dad is coming out saying, you know She's a devil child and this is all wrong and they're worshiping the wrong thing And he's weeping over her car. You know, he's just milking it for all its worth right because I don't believe these Big Christians one bit these mega churches these people that write these best-selling blockbuster books I think they're all mind control Yeah, they live in mansions and I can't remember the last time any of them actually helped someone. Well they even had a conference and they're like well we can pay people to help the poor now We don't actually have to do what Jesus said to do. We could pay for that

17:30 Right. Um, so you mentioned earlier like Katy Perry Being at like a higher level for one of these pop culture mind-control slaves and that is interesting because when I see someone like Britney Spears Of course she seems like she was chewed up and spit out And then you see someone like Madonna who seems like she's more in the club than necessarily a victim of it Maybe that's just my perception but Well, I think there's different paths you can take to get to the top and definitely if you're a bloodline then the way is paved over for you. But if you're not then you have to go through these initiations and these trauma rituals and actually go through the trauma-based program and if you are willing

18:13 take these next steps, then you make the big bucks. And that's where you hear about these people who came from nothing and they made it and then their family member died. How many stories can you think of when that happened? Right? Right! That happens a lot. Of course Katy Perry had her early start with Disney too right? That is suspect Well Disney's always suspect. I mean that's the first look at Britney Spears right? She was a Mouseketeer and so it was Justin Timberlake, so it was Christina Aguilera, so it was Keri Russell So is that guy from The Notebook who...I can't remember his name. All of the stars you see today got their start in The Gateway Of Disney

18:49 Yeah, and now they've I know we've talked about Disney a lot in the past and now they've amassed even more power owning Star Wars owning Marvel so yeah their influence now in terms of entertainment especially entertainment for anyone under 18. It's all Disney now! All this began with a mouse Walt Disney would always say that and you can hear his creepy voice in the speaker when you go to Disney World And it says it all began with a mouse, right? But if we're talking about primal fears and how we relate to animals I mean a mouse is one of the most vile creatures that you can ever Imagine and I know because I lived in Kansas You do not want to cohabitate with anything. That's a rodent. I promise you yeah

19:32 It just seems like you guys have been picking up on patterns like a couple of Simon champions. Yeah, yeah well that's what we kind of love to do because we want to look deeper into these symbols You know I do section in Weird Stuff 2 about hand signs and what they really mean because I see a lot of these people take a thing and run with it And they're getting it all wrong Right the let's talk about maybe the okay hand sign where you put your index finger and your thumb together use and maybe they'll look Through it with their eye, right? Right. We see that a lot So a lot of people say this is 666 or this is the Eye of Horus But actually if you look into a book You know actual scholarly but and this is the point I want to make like people don't read anymore I mean people can read but they don't

20:17 Read they just want to watch a video and yeah, let's do a podcast. Yeah I know these people are lazy out there And I didn't have to pay big bucks for that hand sign book right okay? So this is what I found out was it was the sign of the vesica pisces which means You're in the womb of the secret society and there's nothing wrong with the vesicle Pisces as part of sacred geometry But they're using it as a sign meaning you're in the club right on oh Yeah, you're right. I'm guilty of it myself of talking about symbolism with just a kind of layman's understanding You mentioned that Moloch was never an owl and that's interesting to me So what do you make at the Bohemian Grove statue? Obviously that's a big symbol What was that

21:01 The big cremation of Kaer. Okay, so there is a really interesting relief in the British Museum called the Bernie Relief and the conspiracy theorists may have seen this and they call it Ishtar or Queen Of The Night They call her Lilith most of the time So it's the goddess with wings and claw feet owl feet with two owls sitting next to her And she's on the back of two lions Yeah. Right? And originally this relief was painted red and so they're kind of in debate whether it's Sumerian Inanna or Babylon Ishtar, but it's one of these but it was the original Scarlet Woman. Yeah and they simply call it The Queen Of The Night

21:40 And you'll see it depicted all the time. But so when you start to look at the owl symbolism, you consistently come back to the goddess Athena had an owl Minerva had an owl You know on and on you could go... Well even um The first degree of the Bavarian Illuminati of Weishaupt was called a minerval and their symbol was that owl on top of a book Right, that was the most common symbol of the Illuminati next to the Target logo, the circumpunked. So there's another kind of misnomer we can talk about right now is like the eye in the pyramid is so much deeper and older and more ancient than 1776 or even

22:18 It wasn't a Illuminati symbol. It's pre-history! Yeah, the eye in the pyramid was not specific Illuminati symbol everybody just says that and there is good passage in Weird Stuff Part 2 about the oldest artifact that they have found with the eye on the pyramid so you'll have to get that and read what it's about yeah some crazy stuff but...so The Owl mostly represents this goddess worship and so its odd thing to us And it's a night predator. So here we are back on predatory animals, right? Right! The owl symbolism itself is the idea of being able to see 180 degrees because they turn their head around in the dark and that's really what its meaning is but then it's always correlated with

23:02 the goddess and most people don't recognize the goddess worship that's going on because they just don't even consider that's the case. So when you start to realize Freemasonry is foundation in almost every civilization on the planet at this time, Freemasonry really holds the reins there are presidents there... Can I interject real fast because i don't want to get off topic because this is really good, it's part of another prediction that I made. So let's talk about Molek for a second the bull right? And so what happened with Katy Perry I went on Clyde Lewis and they said, well what do you think you might see at the Grammys? And i pulled out this big giant book um Secret Teachings of All Ages our friend was visiting and he had this really rare copy that's worth $3 000. It has all the color plates you know it's like two feet tall! And uh...I got this picture out and it had like all these symbols we were talking about and then it had this horned being-like a stag

24:04 And I said, well if they're in keeping with the OTO theme then they're going to have to pull out some representation of their hidden god Pan. Alright so Pan is the hidden god of the OTO he is the God Of All He Is The... What do you call it? Fertility Of The Forest I mean total phallic worshipping rape god. Okay If You Read The Poems Im Serious! Huh? I said, it seems like from what i hear that might fit with the OTO. Right! It even goes to the Led Zeppelin OTO connections when you hear a stairway to heaven and he says if you hear a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed now That's actually the line that supposedly when you play backwards says worship Satan

24:47 but that is a reference to this very ritual of going out to have sex with pan in the woods right or dianysus are you know the horn god of the witches okay so i uh... i said we have to have some horns and then what's the first thing they did at the grammys was acdc came out and played highway to hell and everybody put on their light up horn Headbands. Right? And then the ritualistic performance of the night was Madonna dressed as a matador, the Scarlet Woman with all these bowls again with the diamond mask right? The diamond symbolism there again and yeah now part of the diamond symbolism is not just the presidential model mind control slaves but it has also reputed according to Fritz Springmeier's book How To Create Your Own Undetectable Illuminati Mind Control Slave quite a title for a book

25:35 you find that the diamond symbolism is also a trigger for sleeper agents. And that was really why I was kind of expecting to see the diamond symbolism now, to have it repeated again by Madonna or something else. You know? It's like triggers sent out to the entire world to share this, you know, to awaken the sleeper agents, to awaken the sleeper mind control people. That's according to Fritz Springmeier what the diamond symbol does. So maybe that's the message there. They're going to awaken sleepers who might happen to be watching the ritual? That's the thought. And so, yeah that's who Molech really is is the bull Yeah Molech is a bull that was used in child sacrifice Exactly and the owl is symbol of their goddess that they worship and that's why our capital is the District of Columbia or in Britain it's Britannia these guys have

26:35 You know goddess worship at the core of this and I you know, i'm still trying to understand It's not a mother earth goddess. So let's make that distinction right now It's not that they're worshipping the divine sacred feminine they're worshiping hordham Yeah Oh right? Yeah, I was gonna say because in such a male dominated society it seems odd That they would do some secret goddess worship but um Yeah, I mean of course it seems like it would have to be negative given all the things that they're doing. It's using the feminine energy for their dark purposes and that's what sorcery is. The power manifestation in the feminine. Right! And if you go back to the very first things that people wrote down at the beginning of history in Sumer they're talking about this goddess Inanna and Inanna's orgasm makes everything possible...in life

27:25 Even though she's not a creatrix, it is actually her husband Damuzi. His semen is the river and his sister is the flora but its Inanna's pleasure that actually makes the world go round Interesting Another strange place we're seeing symbolism, Freeman that I wanted to ask you about is CERN. Obviously there's a lot of buzz about them ramping up their work and the strange ritual dance that they did beforehand and their statue of Shiva again another female What have you seen in your CERN investigations? It is a curious thing let's not forget that their corporate logo is 666 with a hyperdimensional portal

28:07 It's crazy because it could be five years ago and I would be talking and the same words would be coming out of my mouth. Because at this very moment, CERN is about to launch but was shut down now that occurred the very first time they turned on CERN so when they launched CERN there were reports coming in the alternative media saying time travelers will never allow CERN to turn on right? And then just to fulfill that prophecy in the most bizarre thing, and one report it said it was an owl. In another report it said a bird but uh... It seems a bird or an owl dropped a baguette onto the CERN electrical system somewhere else

28:54 and shut the whole thing down. Like that wouldn't be encased somewhere? I know, right? I'm like how did this happen? And of course the news doesn't give you enough. Yeah baguette! Right? I mean they knew that right? They knew there was swamp gas too yeah So of course the time traveling crowd was all over it, saying look this is how it's gonna happen. So lo and behold here we are again some years later I think its been three or five whenever Obama got his Nobel Peace Prize that was the last time CERN was at maximum power or world record levels now when they turn on this time it's going to be twice as powerful so these are teravolt

29:37 TEVs is the structure that they base this out of. And so it was at about five, now it's gonna go up to seven or 10 and what they were concerned about when they first launched CERN was that it was going to create rogue black holes because that's kind of the point when they collide these particles it actually forms a black hole so that they can see into the creation of the universe Right? Yeah. So they were concerned that maybe rogue black holes might start floating around, sucking up things or things that they called strangelets that they said would actually unzip reality, that these things could occur but you know strange things did occur when CERN was at world record levels last time as I said Obama was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize That sounds like the world had flipped on its head and the Norway spiral opened up in the skies that very same day

30:34 So it was kind of a bizarre day and I'm curious but so CERN got shut down this time and another short circuit, and it's possible It might take three more weeks before they launch this again. And at the same time they're gonna be launching the X-37B again The mini robotic space shuttle that is a military space plane. And so it's just like I mean, there's no old shows on Freeman TV. Everything keeps coming back around so yeah alright so CERN that's pretty much where we're at in unless you want to get deeper into the ideas of anti-matter dark matter or what? Can i say something about CERN? Yeah absolutely! Okay um yeah so Shiva is male right? Oh didn't know that... But his wife was Parvati but who could also be Kali

31:27 And Kali is definitely an aspect that they chose for their goddess Babylon. So we have Ishtar, Inanna, Kali and the whore from the Book of Revelation makes up the Scarlet Woman of the Otoeo. Yeah now that's straight from Otoeo teachings that Kali is the main representative of the goddess represented as the Scarlet Woman. Right! This all gets so mixed up in a weird good way because they would sacrifice goats to Kali and Pan is the Goatman God. Right, but I was going to mention the connection to The Other Hope High-Profile Ritual which of course was Miley Cyrus and her sticking out her tongue right now you know they made a whole joke on Saturday Night Live about how she brought about the apocalypse with that performance and of course even Miley was part of that skit and when she was sticking out her tongue they asked her why did you keep sticking our your tongue? And she says well i'm having tiny strokes yo

32:23 It was so apparent, right? So obvious that it's become a meme. Yeah and really that was the representation of Kali once again Scarlet Woman once again we're seeing the same signs and symbols whether it be Madonna Miley Katie Beyonce and Britney if you keep going back, same over and over again. So we're not wrong! Madonna also released a new album her 13th album with 13 tracks in one of them is really crazy about the Illuminati too right? Yeah, it's not Kanye. It's not Beyonce yeah Yeah those lyrics are deep on that one But I thought that was pretty cryptic of course you'd expect that from Madonna okay speaking of Madonna so her right before Katy Perry's performance her and Madonna did a photo shoot kind of for V magazine now this is one to watch for

33:18 for higher, Satanic Things. V Magazine? V Magazine yeah and you got Katy and Madonna on the cover in this big v going into Madonna's vagina and then in the spread you have Katy Perry tying up Madonna in bondage now this is one of top 10 symbols of mind control in pop culture that I laid out in The Beyonce Articles Yeah that what we were gonna get to with your assignment And the bondage in there so here's the old high priestess putting on another blessing to a new high priestess just like we saw with her and Brittany. Now she's passing it on to Katy Perry because in Rolling Stone magazine right before she got the gig for the Super Bowl this summer, it came out with her and Rolling Stone where that was one where she says what's the Illuminati I'd like to be in it? And bam! She's slated to be in the Super Bowl so these are levels they have to get past

34:15 be the superstar that they want. Yeah, initiations of their own right it's so deep another point I wanted to make about CERN is just the other day i had heard that one of the head scientists there had actually been quoted as saying well we're gonna punch a hole through another dimension and something may come through now like what? Something may come through are you trying to summon Cthulhu or Baphomet here thats pretty freaky stuff Yeah, yeah. Exactly! Exactly and that was when they were launching it the first time and you can find that quote on my site under the Future Outlook site. Yeah absolutely I mean that's where we're at okay so when we start to look at this situation of technology and the occult That's when you start to really unfold this picture of why there is a bitten apple on our computers And ET, the song

35:02 Oh, right. Right because it's got some of that in there. Well let's just get to... Okay so when we go all the way back, let's go back television We see the television was actually designed by a magical order known as The Golden Dawn and the device was called a Crookstube And this then became the Cathode Ray Tube that we now use in our televisions but its initial purpose Was to make connections with the other side And the very first symbol that they sent through the Crook's Tube to the other dimension was a Maltese cross. Which of course you'll find connected with the Illuminati and with the Nazis. Knights Templar!

35:42 So this is what television was for. It was a Ouija board, digital Ouija board. An attempt to make communications with the other side so you can see that when we started coming up through all our science and technology you get to jet propulsions laboratories and you find that our rocketry and all of that goes along with it this includes robotic space planes is designed by people that are practicing ritual magic from the OTO, because of course Jack Parsons being one of the main scientists, the lead scientist for jet propulsions brought us modern rocketry with the Nazi Wernher von Braun and all the other Nazi scientists. Who would do a ritual to Pan before every rocket launch? Because Pan is the phallus and a rocket is the phallus so...

36:29 Right. So this is what's going on, guys! You know? Those of you out there listening... This is not just modern science. This is the occult attempting to find a technological means of creating these occult practices so CERN uh..is-is a classic example of what this is of punching a hole into the other dimension like Hellboy in the hopes of opening a portal to the other side. Now, they did put a device on the International Space Station to see the anti-universe and it was put up by a corporation called Grawlator and Grawlator's corporate logo is a reptilian claw. And yet NASA has got that reptilian tongue so they're not too far off!

37:13 Yeah, oh you mean in the logo yeah? Yeah like they both kind of have a reptilian body part in their logo right but that's more of a hermaphrodite symbol to with the V going into the circle of NASA. Right ah fair point I always kind of just thought of it as a reptilian tongue But that's my layman's understanding Go ahead You were saying they could see there can see into antimatter and or dark matter? Yeah, see the anti-universe. So to be able to see this dark matter... Now the whole point is perhaps to figure out why gravity happens and what causes things to stick to the Earth There's many many things that will come out of CERN science but The strange thing was that at this moment they were really trying to solidify the concept in public's mind that aliens are real

38:05 and that we are gonna have to deal with this very soon. So, one of the main people... or the two people that were going out and really spreading this message were the Vatican lead astronomers So this is really bizarre. So you're talking about lead astronomers of the Vatican, Consul Magno and Benjamin Funes that are running around saying aliens are space brothers but did not suffer original sin because they weren't born at Eve And then the other consul Magno he's saying well I would baptize any alien no matter how many tentacles they had

38:44 Right? So, just really bizarre that the two heads of the Vatican Astronomy would be the ones that were saying this. But then they were attached to CERN! They now have their own office at CERN and they just happened to be attached to CERN right as this Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer – the device that sees the anti-universe was launched up to the International Space Station. Wow... Yeah man crazy Yeah, so now we're talking about this whole concept of opening a hole into the other dimension. We've got Jesuit priests in charge. We have ambassadors to extraterrestrials forming all over. So the UN they have their office of outer space affairs

39:27 They have Maslan Hoffman as their head. NASA has a extraterrestrial ambassador, Linda Rothschild and yeah right? Stick a Rothschild in there to meet the aliens I think Jamie should be the extra terrestrial ambassador honestly. I'd vote for you but man this is... interface between occult ritual and technology you do such a good job on that and I find it fascinating because any large group of scientists that were on the cutting edge, you can almost go throughout history in track that there's a really crazy fascination with the occult whether its Nazis they obviously had a fascination with it Jack Parsons even The Manhattan Project when Oppenheimer launched he said some cryptic

40:12 thing from some ancient text. From the Mahabharata? Yeah, I'm a destroyer which again it's like... That's Shiva! Why are you into this stuff?! I mean NASA of course with all their way they name things it's all very cryptic and symbolic and now CERN And now you have yeah and you have the SpaceX so we're back to that OX again Space X is Elon Musk's rocket which is The Dragon It's got a dragon capsule being launched on a, I forgot the name of the rocket using Merlin engines. Right? So SpaceX of course has taken over for NASA and NASA has gone private and military

40:57 But all of the space program for launching to the International Space Station is now up to Elon Musk and SpaceX. Other than that, the launches... Who just appeared on Simpsons! Yeah he was yeah they're really trying to push him out now because The other main launch facility is in Russia, in Kazakhstan at the Cosmodrome. That's where the majority of the launches to the International Space Station occur and they just launched up a host of astronauts that are going to be on the International Space Station for a year now this has been a really big problem because

41:37 the astronauts bodies deteriorate without gravity and they've been trying to find solutions for this. Well, they've been loading up the International Space Station with stem cells there's been at least 13 or 16 stem cell projects going out to the International Space Station in hopes of discovering longevity or you know quote-unquote immortality for these astronauts So all of this is actually going on, orbiting our heads at this time and people just aren't even aware. Oh man! And I guess I would ask you about Elon Musk? You're right that he's been thrown out there so much obviously there's a rhyme and reason to this There was a story circulating a few weeks back where he was talking about free energy basically creating batteries to power homes and then now he says there's gonna be an announcement at the end of this month that has nothing to do with the car

42:33 And I'm curious, because on one hand you're pointing out it's obvious that if someone is in the club that much and is that rich they probably don't have humanity's best intentions at heart. But we've also been hearing about free energy for so long maybe I am hopeful but this could be some type of rollout Yeah, you know we've got to release the chains and really that's what my speech at Free Your Mind this April 10th through 12th. There are no saviors. I mean that's really what i'm going to be discussing is us. We can't rely on these people because we know they're never gonna release the reins

43:15 You're not going to get free energy, free housing unless we decide. Who wants to live in the Venus Project anyway? That looks gross! Very technocratic. That's for sure. Oh it's so un-inhumane or unhuman. Even the creator of it, Jacques what is his name? Jacques Fresco He hates kids and he imagines a world where nobody has to give birth or raise kids Yeah And this is his mentality trying to create a preplanned solution Civilization for people to live in and they have no idea what people need yeah There are some aspects of that I of his thing that kind of creep me out But i definitely love the idea Of a moneyless society that uses technology to free people from menial jobs so they can enjoy their life but That's probably, the extent of where i who doesn't we don't need high technology to live

44:05 They did it just fine for a thousand years before Europeans got here. Yeah, that is true I was also going to ask you if you thought there was any significance in CERN getting started up right after the equinox Do you feel like that plays in at all? A lot of people were throwing out there this whole supermoon, equinox, eclipse situation that happened. The trifecta as they've been calling it and no I didn't really think that it was going to correlate with that myself and I even expected troubles because of all the constancy of their shutdowns so

44:42 I've been watching CERN quite closely and will continue to report on it and keep everybody up-to-date To make sure we know when it launches, what's going on. Because once it launches they just put a particle in there that doesn't mean they're gonna be colliding It'll be another few more months before they actually collide the particles And thats when people should be a bit more concerned Right When your life suddenly ceases to exist you'll know they did something Yeah, yeah. Right? And you know recognize that the symbolism of the colliders as well the name Atlas is actually the king of Atlantis and when you get into these occult orders and even Freemasonry you find that Atlantis becomes a very real thing so there it is right there in the symbolism along with Alice and the idea going through the looking glass

45:34 But there are other particle colliders around the globe that people aren't talking about. Actually, in Romania they're building the most sophisticated particle collider ever crafted so that should be an intriguing thing to see and then In America, we have the RIC or the Relativistic Heavy Ionic Collider. And the RIC their colliders are called Phoenix and Star and this gets to the Sirius star in the idea of rebirth in the phoenix. At the RIC they actually collided gold particles and folded space-time so now were getting into the ideas using these things for time travel

46:16 It's it's so nuts I can't even rationalize why these scientists would want to do some of this stuff. It's like, I sometimes wonder if they're possessed by some entity entity from beyond in the way that like Rick Moranis and Ghostbusters is kind of possessed to help his guy manifest. There is only Zool. Right, right it's like why would they do this? You know why would you want to be involved in something that seems like a roll of the dice when you're talking about destroying the fabric of reality or ripping it open And nations are fighting nations to get- To be apart of CERN

46:55 And the last little bit of CERN is that they have the most sophisticated computing network ever crafted. And, of course, CERN brought us the World Wide Web but they have the LHC grid which stands for Large Hadron Collider Grid which is actually a massive interconnected direct to fiber optic line network of computers, the biggest ever and it's capable of pushing in massive amounts of information to the point that it is capable things like mind transfer technologies or dumping your soul into the CERN computer. But nations are fighting nations to be able to pay, to be with CERNS and be a part of CERN and they actually disallowed America from being apart of the LHC grid, this super computer because they fear that we will use it I say we as them America will use it for their

47:52 Big Brother campaign. So we're actually locked out, America's locked out of the CERN grid computers so that the NSA won't utilize it. Interesting I have heard you say on some other shows to be watchful of the Russia-China alliance in terms of The Secret Space Program or The Secret Space War what is so important about that? What should we be watching for with Russia and China Yeah, that was something that came across my desk way back again when W. was in office I made the projection to say that America will go to war with Iran and this will be the spark that causes World War Three sparking a war with the Russia China alliance Now many people don't even know there is such thing as a Russia-China alliance but there is they have been unified and many of their goals are in there And when we start to look at

48:50 what the New World Order wants as their base system of operations for the world. China is it, you know just a horde of slaves working for the over elite and no one has any say or anything and any involvement whatsoever but what you learn right now is that America is shutting down all its space programs kind of crumbling in its own weight The Russia China are launching massive amounts of satellites space technologies. They're trying to already has a military space station orbiting the planet people don't know that and they have formed this major space race so we know, they've always known whoever controls space controls the planet and I really think that

49:43 the powers that be are utilizing the different belief systems of these nations to finally coalesce into this singular mind and so they used america for the necessary time that they needed it now let it crumble while they'll rise up because if you go to Kazakhstan and you see Astana, their capital city in there. You find that it is the most modern city you've ever seen in your life I mean its bizarre looks like aliens built it right? A giant glass pyramid of peace that you walk through where all the different nations religions gather this is a

50:22 where the central religion will be founded inside of this pyramid of peace and it's got these massive copper pylons that are skyscraper high with a big buckyball. In the buckyball there is even a thing like total recall, where you'll see a golden triangle and the architect's hand is pressed into the gold and its kind of formed in a weird way where two fingers are together, a lot like what you saw on Total Recall We get the representation through the mind control programming of the mainstream media that Kazakhstan is some sort of backwater, people living in huts and having sex with their sisters because Borhat. That's all we know about it

51:06 Yeah, exactly and yet. This is the mud they're building the first ever indoor city there They've got the most sophisticated high-tech buildings going on and everything And all like I was saying all of the massive launches are going out of this region so China Russia are set to rule in dominate space and That's you know that's That's the end game right there really well you are right tensions of definitely been mounting for a long time and they seem to be escalating in snowballing more and more and it's always like man how much more tense can things get before they get really out of hand but.

51:46 It's tough because as Americans, of course we don't want to get involved in any kind of war and have missiles attack us. But at the same time like... We are living on the team of the muscle for The Rothschild Banking Network it's hard to really be like yeah um.. it's just hard to know what you want to happen for the good of the world when there are countries that wanna stand up to that network and they're not the one you live in Yeah, we were all getting played so I wish all of humanity across the world. I know you have an international listening ship that you know We're all getting played there's no winners here. Yeah fair point now another weird node on the pop culture radar I wanted to bring up to you as buzz Aldrin and he was doing a media blitz But he also took this photo at Stonehenge with his shirt wide open that said NASA gets your ass to Mars it was plastered everywhere for like a week or so and

52:42 I thought it was weird, i know how NASA usually has messages behind what they do. Could you read between the lines anything out of that? Yeah thats crazy right? Buzz Aldrin man... Now okay lets realize he's 33rd degree free mason that launched to the moon and established the tranquility lodge on the moon And one of them did ritual to Isis in the pod while another went out Right? Right, right. We've been to all the Mason temples and interviewed these people and have film of all these things to show with everyone So realize who Buzz Aldrin is and how this all plays in Then he went around announcing that there was this monolith on the moon of Mars called Phobos Now Phobos and Deimos which mean fear and panic

53:31 are very strange moons. They don't orbit in the way that we would expect them to orbit, I think Phobos... And moons of Saturn? Huh? Moons on Saturn? No, Mars. Oh, moons on Mars! Uh no one ever reported moons on mars until 1877 So it was as if they never existed until that moment. Now there were plenty of telescopes pointing at Mars, there were people even talking about the canals and the structures that they we're seeing on Mars I mean Mars has fascinated planet Earth for you know ever And people have seen all kinds of things being done there. So Phobos and Deimos, these two strange moons suddenly appear and the space programs are very interested in it so Russia launched at least six Phobos investigatory satellites and all were lost. Damn!

54:21 Every time a satellite goes to Phobos, they lose communication with it. Now Phobos 2 I believe it was called the name of the satellite actually photographed a 14 mile long flying saucer before losing contact with ground control. Oh shit! So now let me just say that I forgot her name but the head of the Russian Space Agency or the lead scientist in charge of this Phobos project went all around the world showing this 14 mile long craft saying, look what's going on. And America has launched their Phobos project and the last time we tried to photographs Phobos and we were even gonna see okay so the point I was getting into is that Buzz Aldrin has been running around telling the world that there is a monolith on Phobos

55:14 that was he according to him, was either placed there by God or aliens. Now there are pictures of it so you know it does exist. That's interesting that you brought up the monolith because in my third part about Katy Perry I was totally talking about um well do you know in the commercial for the Super Bowl they had the monolith but it was a Pepsi machine yeah right and so this is from Well you can also see it in 2001 Space Odyssey where the cavemen are like worshipping the monolith and this represents an evolutionary leap in mankind. In consciousness? In consciousness, yeah And whose symbol is it? Temple of Set Yeah

55:55 Wow, that's crazy that there is a monolith out there. And they only were discovered in 1877! People talk about who built the moon or who parked the moon there as some type of observation ship It's kind of crazy you'd think these things were only there 200 years when we're told everything in our solar system has existed for millions of years Maybe someone pulled them into orbit and shooting down our satellites every time we get close It's curious, you know one of the stories that actually does mention moons of Mars is Gulliver's travels and yet no one had ever seen them yet at this point. So after that you still don't hear about them but so

56:41 Buzz Aldrin actually went on Worldwide Wrestling and on Dancing with the Stars. These are two very strange audiences to be talking about monoliths being put on the moons of Mars by aliens, you know, worldwide wrestling and dancing with the stars but he was pushing this And this is how strange, so now we've got the Mars situation. We can look at what's going on in Mars. We see the polar caps. We can see that there are clouds and that it appears to me as if someone has been terraforming Mars for some time. Wow! Let them go. Huh? Let them go. Yeah right let em' go no doubt

57:22 So, you know we now have this idea of the one-way ticket to Mars and there's more people than they can possibly handle that want to go to Mars and live. But there are also stories that we get from the alternative media of ideas like the rover on Mars photographed a man coming over to dust it off when the rover got stuck, you know? I do believe there's a Martian colony, and I really do. And I do believe that there is probably pre-life on Mars and I believe in the Cydonian complex and the pyramids on Mars, the face on Mars all of that stuff so i absolutely personally have a belief from my studies

58:07 Existed on Mars in the ancient past and was devastated and destroyed. And I personally believe it's white people that lived on Mars, and the darker people were from Earth And the Martians have always been known as this warrior tribe and the dominators, from Mars is the god of war. So you know this would be the white people. White people just suddenly showed up in the Caucus Mountains out of the blue no one really knows where they came from or why they were there And we're so strange compared to all the other Earthlings, you know? Yeah. I remember having that conversation with you on the Don Peyote bus and we talked about possible existence of another planet or that the orbits have moved because white people were originally from Mars. That's why we'd have lighter skin because, you know, white people could live at the equator their whole life and they never turn black. Exactly!

59:04 Hey dan fogler decided to show up at free your mind this year and air don pay one more time so i have right after my presentation for your mind. Dan fogler will be taking the stage in and showing down payout everyone else can be awesome Yeah, that is so awesome. I have him to thank for getting into Comic-Con last year He actually came outside and gave me his badge and I snuck in under his name. Awesome! Man, I would love to go to Freer Mine It's just so far And if i was going to do the conspiraties thing it's hard to fly with tubs of T-shirts So I'd have to drive and driving from San Diego to The East Coast is just not something I want to do right now No, I don't blame you one bit. I'm not in any hurry to get back to California

59:48 I hear ya. Well, right on guys it is always a pleasure! I had a blast on the Don Peyote tour bus with you guys and you were great friends to lean on during my first acid trip That was fun we almost died Yeah oh my god We literally almost went over a cliff in a school bus No a city bus A city bus yeah I know we all have great footage of that adventure i wanted to put something together but i couldn't get all the footage from some of the other people that were on the bus But it was a real blast. And also, we had that project planned and I was really disappointed when Rob Davin kind of disappeared on us at the launch of our Conspiracy HQ project We got all our listeners excited and then he mysteriously disappeared That was my first brush with oddities in this realm

1:00:38 Yeah, I have to agree and you know but i guess Greg it's just better for us to stick to our own guns. Right Because as much as we would like to bond it just man... It's hard We have all learned the hard way that is best You kind of have to do your own thing Ultimately we are friends and partners in a loose sense We're after the same kinda thing But we're ultimately responsible for our own bills and we cannot put that in the hands of other people. We've been burned too many times, but before we go definitely tell the people about some of this stuff you're doing over at freemantv.com and this upcoming Free Your Mind conference to. All right well for the Freer Your Mind conference I'm going to be doing a lot of live broadcast video

1:01:26 live broadcast for the members section. So if you want to get part of that, then subscribe to Freeman TV and I'll be picking the brains of all the different hosts or guests and also audience members that have crazy things to share there's always plenty of those right? Yes! So i'm going to have a great time just sharing all of that My talk will happen on Friday, April 10th. And I'm going to throw in some magic tricks and some juggling shows so it's gonna be a lot of fun because I am trying to break us out of that mental perspective if this all has to be dire and start to nurture the childlike play within people because I believe that is really the solution. That is still the solution for trauma-based mind control is nurturing your inner child

1:02:14 So we feel like the entire planet is actually PSTD'd and needs to come out of this through nurtured childlike play. And so I'll be talking a lot about that And we're just going to keep broadcasting, Greg. You know? We're gonna... We're gonna keep digging deeper. I wish I could get a chemtrail pilot on the air you know? Yeah! I'm out there scouring people trying to find these sources and digging into professors and trying to go in places where people haven't looked before. I have a lot of connections inside of these secret organizations so i want to utilize a lot of that as well to bring these stories out but

1:02:56 We're just going to keep producing and keep doing our articles, our books and our videos and radios. Every week at 8pm? Every week every Saturday at 8pm we put out another show for you plus all of the exclusive articles that we keep pumping out that we hope people will share more and more because that's really critical for us to be able to make it as if people will share this stuff on their Facebooks Twitters and all of that good stuff makes all the difference in the world. It's so simple and we live in a time right now where just, you know, small portion of people can make a big difference so I think it's really an exciting time. So true! Man, I know Free Your Mind is gonna be great. Wish I could get out there hang out with you guys but its just not on the cards this time but definitely people check out their podcast what they're doing over there There are lot of great videos...I mean You've got how many thousands hours?

1:03:52 Well, it's 10 years. So 10 years every day of the week I mean every week of the year sometimes three or four times a week so yeah there's ten thousand hours it would take you know a year and half if you just started watching and listening to everything straight listening to nothing else. But I definitely want to say there's no such thing as an old show on Freeman TV, everything comes back around and I could play a show five years old and it would still be just as relevant right now. Yeah like good old fashioned trends conspiracy trends Yes Awesome well guys thanks again it's been a real pleasure love you guys and have a great trip yeah we will thank you hopefully we'll see you again soon for sure

1:04:40 There we have it guys, wow. I love those two and they never fail to impress. I like the pinball nature of this show because they both have their areas of expertise and i think we weave- wove? We... wove. We wove back and forth in a great way. In the Plus show, for anyone who is on the fence about signing up for THC+, and just hasn't pulled the trigger yet. In this bonus hour we talked about Freeman's research into some strange solar activity You know we've been talking about the Earth and Moon a lot lately but not much about the Sun so that was interesting Talked more about the ancients and the idea of mapping the galactic seasons, more stories of science trying to contact entities with technology, Madonna's DNA cleanup crew cloning mind transfer technology. And then we swung back into Jamie's territory to talk about her research into

1:05:34 Queen Bee herself, Beyonce aka Sasha Fierce aka Yonce aka another Project Monarch mind control slave. We also talked about some of these pop stars speaking out through Twitter in a way that they never could before and we are getting some interesting insights into their quote-unquote breakdowns when that happens and we get little glimpses into that dark world of theirs So it's a great second hour to add along to all the others lately, and the Plus members have been so active in the comments. They asked me for a forum because of course a forum allows more structured communication than just a comment thread. I spent a couple days giving it to them and I've tried and failed.

1:06:17 failed at a forum in the past, but now because everyone already has a login for the Plus site it's closed to outside spam and soliciting and the hassle of making an account just for a forum. So I think it's going to be a lot easier to maintain in that closed environment And its pretty active already so I'm psyched about that! I get a lot of emails sometimes they get two dozen or so a day from just listeners I want to respond to all of them, but it does get kind of overwhelming if i let just a day or two go by. But the forum is awesome listeners can actually talk to each other and expand on some great ideas and I've gotten some emails about great ideas and its kinda sad that they just die with me and I just write back oh dude thats awesome! but you know this is pretty cool

1:07:06 I'm happy to do it for them since they help make my dream come true. It's another reason to sign up for PLUS, so it is getting better all the time and that's kind of what I say when you're working towards your dream can be overwhelming because you get this perfect picture in your head at the end game and how great you want it to be and you can get hung up on how to manifest that from mind to reality. It could be very paralyzing. You're stuck in those upper realms of the Kabbalah and you just can't bring it down to the human level. So they say But I know people who have had their own business up in their head for 10 years, but the 3D holographic reality we live in would never know it. And I get that! But something I try to remind people of is not to focus on how to get to the immediate perfection that you have in your head just focus on progress a little bit each day even if you're only teaching yourself some aspects of the business that you want to have You've just got to be constantly tweaking and I don't mean crack

1:08:04 But definitely support Freeman and Jamie if you find them captivating. Freeman's podcast is great too, probably better than mine even! Crowe's first article went great he is going to explore more of the Hatty Bower research the octaves the spider beings and more about the makeup of the moon and the rest of the cosmos The next One of those should be coming out this following Friday. And the shows are going to be a little sporadic this month, but what else is new? I've just been finding so many great researchers that i find myself trying to record way too many shows which take me a lot of research on the front end But what can you do there's just so much interesting shit going on right now and I will have five shows for you by the end of the month I promise of course

1:08:48 I even got a few recorded already and i really love all of them. Except one. One is just too much of a review of things we've already known, so I think i'm just gonna put that one out as A two-hour free show and consider it extra for everybody and no disrespect for the guests I don't want to call them out here But if you're paying attention this month You'll know And with that I'm probably going to get out of here. I've done my part this week Thanks everybody Your move occult scientist Asern your frickin move