Freddy Silva | The Resurrection Ritual, Crop Circles, & The Otherworld

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00:44 Alright, Hiresight Chatters. When we look at Gnostic teachings, Celtic stone circles the Giza Plateau, the ruins of Central and South America oral traditions the world over and many other breadcrumbs from our fragmented history it becomes apparent that our ancestors lived much differently than we do today but despite their vast geographical distances a lot of similarities in mindset and tradition seem to emerge from the distant past And the largest factor in why these people and traditions are no more is their systematic destruction and cultural obscurification by the Holy Roman Empire and European expansion. This much we seem to know, even though our education system and so-called experts have routinely painted the picture that these cultures were primitive and unimportant

01:26 We look at the unique alignments and qualities of their structures, the richness and depth of their traditions. And the ever-important context that history is written by the winners! Many of us remain skeptical. Lucky for us today's guest Freddy Silva feels largely the same way. These realizations have been a true driving force in his quest for knowledge and restoration of the ancient tradition Freddie has dedicated his career to researching ancient systems of knowledge, crop circles, alternative history and more. And is the best-selling author of several interesting books including Secrets in the Fields The Science and Mysticism of Crop Circles The Divine Blueprint Temples Power Places and the Global Plan To Shape the Human Soul and the main thing I plan to talk about today The Lost Art Of Resurrection Initiation Secret Chambers and the Quest for the Otherworld

02:15 He knows his stuff and it's a real pleasure to have him here. Freddie, my man welcome to the higher side! Hello Greg good to be on Yeah man big fan thanks for being here I read your latest book and was really impressed with all the data that you have that backs up your main point about the tweaking of this word resurrection And i think most of us are broadly aware that the catholic church is a hodgepodge older traditions, and by absorbing some of these things it made it easier for them to aggressively massage their worldview into the minds of many people. But let's start with that word resurrection and some of those major elements in the Catholic faith that are a bit nonsensical until you restore that original context what can you tell us?

02:57 Well, exactly. I mean, I sort of grew up the same way in the Western religious tradition thinking that resurrection was a word that was always associated with one guy who gets nailed to a cross on the winter solstice and gets up again three days later or in this case Easter and it turns out As I kept wandering around the world looking at ancient sacred sites, I kept hearing the story about raising rituals and risen from the dead and the few in the many. And then I came across a living resurrection mentioned in The Near East by two actual apostles whose original gospels were seriously—they weren't just censored by the church they were actually removed from the entire canon and they became the bane of the Church

03:39 If anybody tried to mention about it, they were basically boiled alive. I thought it seemed a little bit odd that people seem to profess a religion that's based on love and charity should be behaving this way so what is this all about? It turns out when you actually read the banned gospels of Philip principally and also Thomas the brother of Jesus they actually talk about an imposter church that takes over from the true Christian brotherhood. And that really got me very excited, that perhaps we've been barking up the wrong tree! And as it turns out they were discussing something called a living resurrection where nobody actually gets nailed to a cross nobody actually physically gets up from the dead and comes back again from the grave because this is contrary to the laws of nature you just can't do that...and the whole thing was basically a metaphor for the most important

04:27 ritual of initiation that was conducted not just during Jesus' time, but also as a tradition that goes back as far as I can figure it out three and half thousand years before Christianity. So Christianity is really basically a new kid on the block when it comes to this ritual and like I said the church basically didn't understand the ritual but also they knew they also wanted to take that another stage further from the actual ritual into something they could own. So, they created this concept of a guy that gets nailed to a cross and then gets up three days later essentially grafting the story of Jesus onto the story of Mithra who's a 6,000-year old risen godman who does exactly the same thing down to the point where his birth is heralded by shepherds and angels and all kinds of things that we know in the Christian narrative so... The whole resurrection concept really was nothing more

05:19 than a very secret ritual where you crossed into the other world, you undertook at near-death experience which sounds very harrowing but apparently people did this again and again and again. So obviously there was a huge benefit to it and people like Plato Pythagoras themselves even said that the experience of living resurrection was the highest point of spiritual self development so if they're saying it there has to be some benefit Yeah, I think that's a really eye-opening moment to realize that is kind of the switch and that resurrection really does relate to this psychedelic ritual in the astral plane. But you mentioned that you can trace it back to three and half thousand years before Christianity. What do we know about that earliest instance of this usage? Can you elaborate on that a bit?

06:08 Yeah, if you sort of look at the context of the Middle East and also in China. You start getting these instances in text that have survived and there's not many but a few that have survived they talk about people basically getting taken aside from real life and joining this inner brotherhood and this included women as well and they basically gave up most of their lives to undertake this teaching if you like When you start putting these pecks together, it turns out that in the southwest of North America they were also doing a very similar concept as well during the rite of passage. What they shared in common was the fact that they basically went into learning the secret mysteries teachings of how the universe really works, the mechanics of nature, how to control those mechanics and also how to learn about the true mystery and importance of the soul

07:01 The last portion of the initiation involved a kind of induced near-death experience either inside a manmade chamber, an underground room or an actual cave on a sacred mountain. In China specifically these people called it gentleman of the way and it wasn't specifically geared towards men. It was basically a euphemism that covered everybody that did this. They said that they're basically In order to actually understand the true mystery of nature and the purpose of the soul, you literally had to die and have to be reborn in this lifetime. And what they did was that they actually crossed over into the other world for several days. There's one Persian account where one person actually did it for seven days out of body. They basically left their body as though you're completely comatose and then came back again. That's the point when they were declared to be risen from the dead. They made a distinction

07:55 between the risen and the dead in real life by saying that the people who have not experienced initiation are basically walking a living death whereby you are born, or you have a very difficult life. You think that everything is based on the physical narrowness of the world. In other words, everything that exists literally is what it's physical and what you can see where you can touch and then you die. And these people had had earth shattering experience where They were shown that actually, that's not how things really are. There is a much bigger plan that takes place in the universe and once you understand your soul's purpose in this bigger scheme of things you come back aware awake or living. You are truly living yourself

08:39 living alive rather than just walking about as if you have no idea what's going on. Kind of like people who sort of walk down the street looking at their cell phone nowadays and kind of run into cars or get run over by cars so in a way, it's sort of repetitive concept to try and wake up the human soul Yeah, I mean we like you say we use the terms awake and asleep to describe the masses or people who have been quote-unquote initiated into a psychedelic experience. We use those terms today so it's really not much of a stretch that they would say alive and dead i'm is very similar terminology and a lot of us Have taken some kind of psychedelics or had some type of out-of-body experience that maybe gave us a glimpse to the other side. But this is a much deeper and more sustained exploration, I mean seven days that is pretty intense absolutely

09:29 And that was the thing I also asked during this whole research, was how does this differ from something like a weekend's retreat in the Amazon doing ayahuasca? And apparently it's very different. It seems that our concept of shamanism at least in the last 3000 years is kind of trying to mimic this art that literally is lost. We don't do this anymore unless you go through some very obscure parts Central America or Indonesia where it's still practiced and then you really got to know someone who knows somebody else. And that they might allow you sort of join in but yeah, because you can do basically shamanism in a weekend although you really shouldn't, should take longer than this for preparation and here they're talking about three years of preparation because they recognize that in order to have a voluntary near-death experience, they actually had to prepare you in all kinds of not just mental ways but practical ways

10:22 The connecting point between the two was a fact that they too also took narcotic. But the difference was that these narcotics that you find in Central America, South America and the Middle East also in Egypt. They were looking for specific plants which actually had a certain poison to them and the people who administered this poison had to be trained for many years. It was a huge responsibility if they slipped up on any moments of the procedure there will be disbarred for life. I mean they're really serious about this because they understood that these poisons, if you take them in a certain dosage they can actually help calm you down. Kind of like an anesthetic because when you think about it after three years you're being told well at the very height of your initiation you're going to die and then you could come back three days later no amount of training could repay for that moment it sounds very harrowing so I guess you've got to have a certain anesthetic to calm you down and that's how they use

11:20 use a drug to induce kind of a vision but they're differentiated between the two. These are not visions, these were the actual experience of the soul leaving the body completely aware of being in another level of reality, like being in a different radio station and that world is absolutely real as the world we live in right now and this is why philosophers chose to do this rather than take drugs because they recognize that the information the nature of the universe, how the mechanics of nature really work. If you're able to remember that when you're out-of-body and you come back into your living body and go about your daily life with that knowledge well that makes you into a kind of God without sort of the ego part of it. You can actually apply that practically in your daily life and that's why so many people undertook this Living Resurrection initiation

12:14 They went on to be fabulous teachers and philosophers, you know. And sometimes famous religious people as well who practiced all kinds of wonderful things. So the benefits of course were not just for the self but it was supposed to be something that you'd also apply to the world around you to make the world a better place. So that's a differentiation between shamanism and the resurrection ritual. One was basically inducing a state, the other one was the state itself. Yeah, it is fascinating and we always hear the term immortal thrown around with the Egyptians. And again like I've had slivers of experiences that felt like they took a long long time and really it's only a 15 minute or less thing.

12:59 in a much stronger way for seven actual days in real time. I mean, you could live a lifetime over there it would feel like you had some type of immortality to an extent. They came back very discombobulated as they certainly did the few remaining accounts. They described that was a very difficult re-entry and I'm not surprised because these people were forbidden to describe what they saw for a very good reason I found out And it was to do with the fact that the journey is very personal. No two journeys are the same, so for you and me to describe our journey sitting at a cafe to your friends and saying hey guess what I've been doing last three days? It would actually color the experience for somebody else they would expect to have that experience but that would not be their experience that will be someone else's. And in fact women actually had the highest level of guardianship over the actual process by the way which is something

13:53 They basically recognized that you have to go in with a completely empty slate. This was your particular journey, not somebody else's otherwise you're getting a false impression and that's not what the point is about Mm-hmm. That makes a lot of sense and it's definitely an impressionable experience for sure, and I'm a little curious about the details around that process itself or explaining that to the listeners and how it differs from just taking mushrooms in mom's basement? There are other elements that strengthen the experience outside of just the compounds they're taking right? Yeah, and it was very strict science and again I had to piece this together piecemeal going

14:33 going around the world looking at similarities because so little of the information survives and what little there is, you really have to go look in some very weird places to find it. And once you find it, it's a matter of like knitting together this big vest of a story. And basically they actually designed these specific chambers and we know quite a lot of these...the most famous one of them, of course, is The Great Pyramid. We know that there's not a shred of evidence that it was ever used as a burial chamber despite the fact that the orthodox archaeologists keep repeating this thing ad nauseum without a shred of verb to back it up. And anyone who's actually had some quiet time in the King's Chamber knows that there is something very unusual about that place and the box itself, even the dimensions of the actual chamber are very specific. So if you've actually undertaken the route from the bottom of the pyramid all the way up, you can see that you start at this well which is a very roughly shaped room under the actual pyramid

15:27 As you progress up the chambers and the passageways all the way up to that top chamber, this stone gets more refined and more polished. That in esoteric terms is a metaphor for the polishing of the diamond so you start off as a rough diamond at the bottom and you end up with a polished stone at the top. That tells you exactly what these buildings were doing. Basically they would make sure that first of all that the locations were specially chosen for their geomagnetism and every single sacred space on the face of the earth, specifically places for out-of-body experiences were located at the geomagnetic hotspots of the earth. Then they would go around looking for some specific stones if anybody's ever paid attention to the building methods of these temples you know that didn't just chose a stone that was lying around it was so convenient and so cost effective sometimes there will go as much as 400 miles down

16:22 So you look at these things and you figure out, ah these stones have a specific type of quartz which when you put them under pressure creates a piezoelectric effect. Secondly they have a lot of magnetite and that begins to work to create the electromagnetic environment around it which stimulates all the particles of magnetite in the human skull and also the iron that flows through the actual blood in the body. The buildings themselves were kind they did that in order to exert this effect, this calming effect and this outer body effect onto the actual person. So everything was carefully chosen to put you into another world state even while you're in the body and if we visit some of these places today, you can't help but thinking that you've actually gone away and stepped into a different environment or when you come back from

17:15 You are not the same person when you went in because something about the environment has already altered you which is an interesting word, altering because we get so many churches and there's a place called The Altar. That's exactly where it comes from, it supposed to be altering it." And so they actually designed the shape of position or the room would begin to induce this state and it would actually start to meld you into matrix of the earth and then finally it will release you into the matrix of the cosmos and hopefully bring it back. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean I also watched your documentary Stairways to Heaven the practical magic of sacred space and that gets into a lot of this stuff too Especially relating to early churches and temples And the qualities of them like like you said altars and these ones I guess were built on courts in the beginning Uneven spires to encode the Sun and Moon and create those resonance effects inside certain cathedrals Absolutely it is interesting stuff

18:12 It's all about resonance in the end. I mean even physicists today who are much more aware, they do state that the body is a bunch of resonances vibrations, even diseases vibratory by nature. And once you understand the nature of vibration and sound which in so many of these temples were designed to the actual harmonics of sounds even the mathematics corresponded me to the music scale that you begin to get a sense that's the whole building was as it's written some temples around the world to transform the human into a god into a bright star. That's an actual phrase from a temple at Chichen Itza

18:48 It was to try and remind you of the fact that you are a god. We all are gods, God is not a separate form as modern religion has taught us. A god is an interior thing and the ancient cultures in indigenous culture understood this but they also understood that when you're down here on earth, Influence by physical things you want that mini cooper you want that girl or that guy. You want that beautiful house and you crave this and it was wonderful but if you start over associating with the material world use a combo so, which influences sometimes those influencers do begin to distract you from your purpose as a soul and also

19:30 It starts leading into places that you really oughtn't be going into. So the building was designed as a mirror image of the perfection of the cosmos at a very basic level to remind you of your own perfection in case you forgot and if should want to find out further what your connection is to the bigger picture, and to remind you that you're also a god and your extraordinary potential. You go into the building and you'd have this initiation experience and then you come back and go, hey I remember who i am. And now I can walk my life aware which brings us of course to the whole meaning of initiation which the word literally means to become aware of the self we tend to think this is sort of like a animal house going for initiation with baseball bat whacked on your bum but it's nothing to do with that. Initiation literally means to become aware

20:22 Yeah, man. Intellectually I really do love this perspective and i have taken enough psychedelics to know there is another side of some kind but I am really interested in having a sober out-of-body experience that's facilitated by some type of you know hot spot or geomagnetism situation or you know as a cathedral that's built for increased resonance but I mean, are there any places left where a person can go and have this type of experience that aren't destroyed or under heavy guard? They're all around the world. For example, here in North America you have a Native American sacred sites, the mounds of Ohio for example it's amazing how of all the ones that have been dug up only 10% I've actually got people buried in them so it makes you wonder why are they actually there and it's the same thing in Northern Europe 90 percent of all the mouths that had been dug is nearly there but there's a chamber inside

21:20 that these things should be standing in the landscape and as though they're marking something. And they are, they're marking the hot spots of energy that we don't see with our physical eyes but anyone who's sensitive to them can actually figure out that yes there's nothing unusual about the energy about these places and we talk about these things in very new age terms but these people are absolutely correct. I know this for a fact because this is what I do as well. I mean look for science to back up what an ethereal thing. I didn't go back and look for the information to try and back this up." So one of my favorite places actually is in the Native American Southwest around The Four Corners, we call it Shiprock. The Native Americans called it Serbitai. I've even watched grown men break down like girly man at the base of this incredible eroded throat of an old volcano. It looks like an angel with wings that just suddenly sprouted out on the ground

22:14 And it's been sacred since the time of the Anasazi. So we're talking over 4,000 to 6,000 years and there is a sense of presence about this place you don't even have to be psychic to understand that there is something about it You can hear people chanting around it There is nobody around to be seen These spots are very important and they also tell you something else The temples came much later The temples came at a time when we began to lose that connection If you look at the Native American cultures and how they honor a place like Cebutai even to this very day or if you're part of the Tewa tribe near Santa Fe, there's actually a hill that called Sikumu just outside Santa Fe. And that is where they still do their ceremony, the out-of-body ceremony and the initiates come back raised after three days on the mountain which tells you something about yourself

23:06 The spot itself, although it's geomagnetic you are also part of this technology. You are also the temple so if you learn how to still yourself and put yourself in a state of oneness with your environment, you actually don't need to take any narcotic or poison to still yourself and have that outer body experience. I'm always amazed to read stories by present day Far away stories from about a thousand years ago of native cultures from North America, Central America and Polynesia where they actually went into these sacred mountains and specifically at a cave where the energy was just so. And they would basically stay up there for three days and nights completely gone in a state of total meditation like a Zen Buddhist. In India they'll say that yes you don't need a physical temple,

24:01 The temple is really there just to remind you in case you forgot. One of the things that I was told was that Kriya Yoga as it is practiced in India, is actually one of the closest approximations to the resurrection ritual that was performed around the world. It's a way to completely harness the electrical energy of your body. You then have to still your breath, lower your heart rate right down to 1 beat per minute and once you've mastered then obviously you've crossed into the other world and you come back risen exactly as they used to do it.

24:37 Man, that is amazing. I have been lucky enough to visit a lot of sacred sites, places where people say they do feel a serious energetic effect and I've never felt anything and maybe it's because of the crowds or maybe the magic is duller than it used to be but are there specific actions you could recommend? Or something that would nudge that type of energy effect along? You just have to come on one of my tours. Yes, there is! I mean you actually touched upon something Greg for example going back to Stonehenge. I take people in small groups around the world to these sites and it's funny how it takes some people a long time to get out of their heads. They

25:24 They take all their problems with them when they go on tour. And depending on where you are in life and how aware you are, some people get it immediately once they step out of that van and we're on the first secret site. They get it. They understand. They totally are present within the moment and they pick up the energy at this site. Then I tell him about the site and it's amazing how much they've picked up without me saying anything And then you get the odd person who, still inside their head they're thinking about their mortgage payments and the politics of the moment. It takes them a few days but by the end of the week they too will begin to realize that when you walk through these sites at specific times in the day in a certain calm state yes, you do come back and you begin to question the world around you, begin to perceive that the world around

26:12 is very different and you see things with different eyes. And that's how you start doing it, it's very simple actually but you're right, you do have to get away from the crowds when you go this place like Stonehenge and there are 100 people or 200 people sitting there doing selfies and stuff... Right! ...and you look at the stones and I did this all the time like they're just a bunch of rocks that really do feel like a bunch of rocks. They looked bored and they switched off while the temples do switch on and off in fact Egyptians were very good about describing this, and they wrote about this copiously. They talked about how the temple is a living breathing organism. It's not a bunch of rocks. It's actually a person and the priest actually used to go into the temple before dawn and wake up every single part of the temple, every room as though they're rousing a being from slumber. And it's not just a romantic notion. We have science that can back this up now. We've planted electrodes around

27:06 around sacred sites like Stonehenge and Avebury in England and also in the Carnac in Northern Europe. And we found that yes, the energy does go down during the night and just before dawn something weird happens. The site begins to suddenly open up and it attracts all the electromagnetism that's flowing around the land and it draws down also an energy from the atmosphere and suddenly – this is using measurable techniques today the site begins to suck in the energy at twice the rate of the surrounding land. The moment, the sun actually comes up and then these stones actually harness that energy like a battery throughout most of the day and it's slowly like a person who is worn out after working, their energy declines towards sunset and the whole process repeats again and again but if you're just standing there looking with 200 people

27:58 It just looks like a pile of rocks. If you go there afterwards, after hours and you pay a lot of money to get special access, kind of like the Great Pyramid as well, the place is very different. It reacts to you and it also reacts your intent. In fact it even knows that you're coming if you prepare yourself before you go to these places they pick up on that these living beings pick up on you and when you get there and you've done your preparation in your quiet and your humble You'd be amazed at how the stones suddenly feel. It's like being in contact with a family that you've always wanted to have a good time with and you never want to go home despite the fact that you filled your belly up with turkey, is how it feels

28:38 I love it. And, you know, I know you actually are speaking from personal experience because you've had a pretty intense one in a pyramid that you've described in writing and interviews in the past. Tell us a little bit about that experience because first-hand knowledge is always the most convincing! Oh, I totally agree. When I started doing research, I really do like books that not only have very big bibliographies because it tells me that the person doesn't have to be right but they at least did the homework and two if it comes from a personal point of view, it means you're not really making it up and a lot of work that I do why takes so long to write books is that I kind go out with open mind and I don't approach it from particular angle

29:24 I want to know what is this really about? And when you ask that question with relation to sacred sites and initiation places, it's amazing how much information comes back at you. Then you kind of get sent on this journey to actually find out how can I back this up with real facts and they're there but you just have to take your time." The one experience with the Great Pyramid is a very good example of that. I work with a small group of people who keeps their very low profile We go around the world cleaning up the mess that people leave behind psychically at sacred sites. Yes, you can do that. You can leave impressions in these buildings and they soak up everything and sometimes they don't feel right so that's our job. It was our opportunity to go into The Great Pyramid into The King's Chamber one day and we weren't able to get private access which means sharing a building with about 200 very noisy people

30:14 which is very disconcerting. And there were four of us that managed to get up to the top and suddenly everybody left, and I thought wow that doesn't happen by accident let's just sit down do what we do best and have this opportunity and take this remarkable coincidence because nothing is by coincidence. Let's take this remarkable coincidence into our work so it began to tone in the actual chamber gets sound frequency going And there were sounds coming out of me that I've never done before or since. So, I don't know what was going on but it was just extraordinary and these three other guys...and by the way, the Great Pyramid is a guy place. It's a very guy energy. The ladies usually like the pyramid next door to the Great Pyramid and the guys don't and there's a reason for all this. But anyway so those four guys doing this toning and suddenly the lights go out. So now we're alone in the Great Pyramid without having had to pay huge amounts of money.

31:07 It's complete darkness and there are four of us just toning in the King's Chamber. And I don't know, it must have been a couple of minutes later that I saw about 33 people coming out of the stones and surrounding us. And I'm looking at this with my open eyes in complete darkness and I can't see my three friends but I can see these people surrounding us and they're very tall dressed in this kind of white satin. Elegant elegant people with this wonderful sense of love We just kept going and going. I thought this is the most remarkable thing I've ever seen, and then suddenly 20 minutes has gone and you get the sense there's a light bulb coming on and we could take turns to go into the King's Chamber in the actual sarcophagus and five minutes in there, you disappeared for a lifetime. So we had to pull people out of that.

31:52 And then we come downstairs, we come out in full daylight and it's quite obvious that four grown men are trying to say something but there're too many to say it. I'll say to them okay did anybody see what I saw in there? The first guy says oh god there was those people who came out of the stones and they were really tall and dressed in a satin And suddenly, we all filled in the story and everybody saw exactly the same thing. And you can't make that up. We're in complete darkness but here's the funniest part of a story when I began to write about this in The Divine Blueprint and The Lost Art of Resurrection, I actually wanted to find out has someone else done this because it'd be great if some could back this up? It turns out that my library books there was book by Paul Brunton who wrote this in his 20s when he became disillusioned with modern life

32:40 So you see that nothing really changes. He wrote about his experiences in Egypt, in the Great Pyramid and I never got a chance to read the book and sure enough there's a chapter where he describes exactly the same thing happened to him and he describes the people that he saw in darkness in the King's Chamber in exactly the same way and I thought, You cannot make this up! And as a third person, there's a friend of mine who is kind of sound scientist genius and very left brain but very intuitive. He asked me on pain of death not to reveal his name because he doesn't want be ridiculed by his peers but he said yeah when we hit the certain frequency in the pyramid with all our technical equipment, we begin to feel a presence around us and it's like we can see people out of the corner

33:31 So, again it backs up what the Egyptians were saying that these places are alive. They remember everything and to a certain degree all the people that also carry their initiation in there, their memories are also in there so its kind of like an alike attraction to like you're never alone at this place they really do look after you and it's good reason why we should go back them again and Wow, man. Thanks for sharing that! That is a pretty wild story I love it and now to switch gears a little bit you mentioned that the Roman Catholic Church they started outlawing access to these spaces because they clearly had value and apparently they even had springs that were healing people in energy healing centers

34:10 Now, the main factor in all this seems to be this ability to go out of body and hang out on the astral plane for seriously extended periods of time. But what can we said about other qualities or abilities that people had unlocked through these magical means and places? Well, there were also healings that were also involved in some sacred sites. It really depends on how the design was built and how its resonance was working a certain way. In fact I want to say manipulated because they did manipulate the laws of nature and they will create certain sites which today if you read the legends and myths associated with them each one does something completely different. It's like I was saying earlier

34:48 about the pyramids on the Giza Plateau. The two big ones of course, you know look at them and go wow this is impressive and they're identical well actually they're not they're subtly different and it's to do with the angle or the slope and that's why anybody who works with a masculine energy relaxes the bigger pyramid and the feminine energy people want to get into slightly smaller one and it has all to do with the manipulation healing places, some are initiation places. Some of the places where you go and do mental work with learning about the mysteries because the site itself induces a certain clarity of mind it's all a big sort of cornucopia, a big potpourri of temples and all of them are designed to do very very different things. That is so interesting about the pyramids having two different energies like that then I guess the third of course would have to be for transgendered

35:45 I know if you look at it that way, you never know. But you know what? That's the one that always fascinates me and people always go for size. Humans like size but in a bigger mystery is once you've done this for many years to begin to realize that you'd been getting your way all the time and you begin to actually appreciate the smaller things in life, the things that don't really get your attention and Even someone like Zawi Hawass, the former Ministry of Antiquities in Egypt. You know this huge bombastic ego which is undeniable but you know what if you just catch him one day and say to him, Zawi the small pyramid and that's all do you say? And a different person pops into his body he's on a different level of reality. He has seen and experienced something in there which is profound I totally agree

36:36 In fact, if I was actually looking for the true entrance of the Hall of Records that lies somewhere along that area. That's where I would begin to look because that's the one place a few people actually look at you see? So sometimes it is worth looking at the smaller things. It is kind like the genuine crop circles when they used to appear nowadays and mostly man-made but in the old days they were absolutely genuine. Most people never paid attention to small ones but that's where their real power is That's where you get a lot of work done and where we got so much of our scientific research from. The bigger ones are impressive for sure but it's always the simple things that you should be aware over, the universe has a mischievous sense of humor and if you pay attention to it

37:17 Yeah, I mean, I know you've done quite a bit of work on the crop circles too which have always been interesting to me. And knowing what you know about the ancient past and the connection that we had with the spirit world is your impression that when these crop circles started showing up it was maybe the entities in the spirit world coming in and saying hey where'd you guys go? Oh, absolutely. And we have good proof of this as well and one particular group consciousness I call them a group consciousness but to me they're real people that kind behind the original phenomenon and they seem to appear in different times of history under different names sometimes we call them The Watchers, sometimes called The Shining Ones, sometimes we call them Guardian Angels and they basically said that you

38:00 You've got to think about the association between crop circles and temples, and they were absolutely right because everywhere there was a peer, the genuine crop circle it was always next to ancient sacred sites. Now we stopped building sacred sites in the last 2,000 years – two-and-a-half thousand years. The only time we really put effort into doing things for real reason with good intent was the Gothic building cathedral period which is put up by the Knights Templar and the Cistercian monks who were doing exactly the same principles as the Egyptians. I mean, exactly! And also over in Angkor Wat at exactly the same century this massive 60 square mile series of temples suddenly was erected so after that there's nothing and that's why i think the crop circles are so important because they also are built on the same principles as a stonehenge or as a pyramid just happen to be placed on cereal crop

38:53 that there's filling in a gap in our connection and our consciousness. And it was always said that the temple was a mirror image of the cosmos, and they were supposed to remind you of your godliness when you forgot. So when you remind yourself of your godliness and you act as a God on the face of the earth without the ego part people begin to look at you and go wait a minute that's a good way of doing this why don't we imitate this person? That's how society becomes cohesive your connection to nature, the perfection of things and slowly society falls apart. Now there is no argument that today's society has fallen apart we have also not created temples and suddenly the crop circles are here reminding us of the same concept now here's the other connection you can also have the same out-of-body experience in crop circles and this has been also very well documented in research circles

39:47 I'm one of those people that also has had an experience in one of these things and I also got taken out-of-body just like I was in the Great Pyramid. So they're actually reminding you that you can do this for yourselves but also, you have to go back to the past find out what's here in our history in order not to repeat the same mistakes. That's the bigger picture that these entities are trying to tell us – that they used to come here at certain pivotal times in our history and they mentioned certain periods around 2600 BC for example when they actually appeared as the shining ones in Egypt and oddly enough, they also appeared as The Watchers in England at the same time. And suddenly we get a big construction boom of pyramids and temples at that moment. They said that because their frequency was so high compared to normal human frequency, they had two manifest bodies take in that frequency. That means that they would have to be very tall unusually tall and also have elongated heads

40:45 Homo sapiens requires a large frontal lobe in order to do mental processing. That's how we get out of trouble and sometimes again it's trouble as well by thinking ourselves too much into it but the back of the brain is the most mysterious one, that's your spiritual lobe that connects you to another level of reality which was still in the science world trying to understand it and these entities were basically saying that's what helped us maintain our connection to the invisible world because we found living on earth so damn difficult plane of existence. So we understand how difficult it is and that's what we come down here at certain times when things are really going wrong to help remind you that you've got a fix this for yourselves but will give you a little nudge and that tracks very nicely not just with the crop circles but also, the building periods of temples around the world and specifically the ones used for initiation because they seem from my research this

41:41 major cataclysms on the earth when things really go wrong and usually within 50 to 100 years. So I do know for a fact without alarming anybody too much that there is, NASA is tracking a comet that's on a very close collision course with us in about 16 years and if you keep track of the news you'll know that NASA keeps talking more about finding ways to destroy comets and also to look for ones so we don't They just don't want to seem like they're very new agey. They try to sort of polish it in scientific terms but they know that we periodically get hit so the crop circles fit in beautifully within this time period, but again the good news is that even though we get hits all the time by this stuff

42:26 We do survive. There are always survivors, this is part of the big plan we continue and life is cyclical so the reason why we're all here and you're here and I'm here because we're part of this plan. So accept that and you're either here to do a change or have experience in your part of the actual process so live your life as you would Well said, man. I've heard you describe that crop circle experience before and it is so interesting the idea that they mentioned coming into physical bodies and that would explain some of the giant skeletons, some of the paracas skulls as some people call them those elongated skulls? Absolutely

43:03 I think that makes a lot of sense. It also does explain or goes along way to explain why cultures on different parts of the planet would develop these things that are fairly similar when they really weren't supposed to be communicating, and they were supposed have great distances between them and so that is bit of a mystery but if there is some kind of like watcher beings that kind of are guardians of the planet and kind of jumpstart the reset of humanity after a cataclysm, well then a picture does start to emerge. Absolutely. And the reason why they call themselves watchers is saying, well we can't directly intervene in human affairs because that would undermine the whole point of your experience. I mean why get born and then have someone else do the work for you? It doesn't make any sense but sometimes like a good teacher, he need to lunge and it also ties in nicely all these disparate cultures that talk about exactly the same process. The process of initiation and living resurrection was described all around the world so yes how did they get

44:05 I was just in Central America and also in Peru, and I wasn't expecting to find this concept of resurrection down there. And my God! I found it all over the place. In fact, I just put half the new information on a DVD because I was amazed how much the temples at the Andes are actually exactly the same process that you find say in the Egyptian temples when no one was ever buried. Yet on the walls, it tells you exactly what the building was used for and it was for this out-of-body journey where you expected to come back and get on with your life. And yes, all of the stories that follow all of these teachings also associated with unusual people that came across the ocean from a sinking land they suddenly appeared with all the knowledge of the cosmos, the knowledge of the stars animal husbandry how to domesticate crops I mean they came with their own built in library books so

44:57 They've been around quite a bit and the cultures also said that they help bring humanity from state of bestiality back into a state of elegance and grace. So yes, I do believe that there's something unifying to this that these strange beings do appear at specific points in our time to help things regrow but again we can't take this for granted and we shouldn't take it for granted you know? It's like the Hopi say, We are the ones who are waiting for! We have to do this for ourselves, otherwise it nullifies the whole point of coming here and going through this horrible process of coming into a physical body as a soul getting whacked in your bum by a doctor when you get or your mother gives birth. And then having an existence and then you die there's more to it than that really is right

45:44 And have you taken much of a look at the Tibetan area because that culture has been pretty isolated and we hear about their mystical traditions, it seemed to have survived and remains fairly undisturbed. Have you looked at them in kind of seeing where the pieces fit with this larger story? Very difficult to get information from them for obvious reasons. One of them being that much of it never got translated into English, secondly because so much of the areas around Tibet and Nepal obviously a lot of the books have been stolen by the Chinese they haven't been burned by them to be honest but they've actually been removed. So obviously the Chinese authorities are kind like the church repeating itself in Europe. They're curious about it enough to keep

46:31 There was one very important thing that I did come across, and that was of an actual drawing that was made by a traveling monk from Europe who went all the way to Tibet. Actually it's Nepal, I beg your pardon, it's Nepal. And he said that he was amazed when he got there that he heard this story about this resurrected god man who goes into this box – that's right, he goes into this box, his sarcophagus on the winter solstice He comes back three days later as a risen god-man called Eao, and he then is nailed to an actual cross—a foliated cross. And he actually drew these. I actually have the drawings in the book of The Last Art of Resurrection which is astonishing!

47:13 And this monk who was a Christian said, I couldn't believe this. This story was at least 500 years older than the story of Christ we had been taught and that's what he actually wrote." And you quite clearly see in this drawing that was drawn from an original source clearly showing that there is a man coming out of a sarcophagus. He has a little sort of dot on his forehead just like a Zen Buddhist would today. And also he is nailed to this cross that has foliage all over it So in other words, anybody from Northern Europe would have looked at this and said yes he's the representation of the green man. The revitalizing foliated man of nature that on the winter solstice comes out of the woodwork. He represents delight as suddenly begins to overwhelm the darkness at that time of year so it is much symbolic as if its practical but they said there were people actual human beings who then look at this metaphor for the rejuvenation

48:09 and they would actually undertake that very same journey as part of their initiation concepts. And this is where it gets a little bit confusing to some people, you know was it a metaphor? Was it real Well, the initiation was both. It was the concept came first this is what you're supposed to be doing? You're supposed to be mirroring the regenerative cycle of nature and hey! You can do this also for yourself. You could regenerate yourself. You can go from being a dead person someone who basically does not see the big picture and then you can basically give yourself a rebirth, a resurrection and you come back as a living being and you go about So that's where the concept really comes from, and it's amazing that even they had the concept of the man nailed to a cross 500 years before Christ.

48:54 Yeah, that is fascinating. And you are right about kind of Tibet and China their relationship really does have parallels to that same struggle in the West and if we were going to talk more about That loss of this tradition because it seemed to be all over the place and pretty well established in the past Can you take us back? To that nexus of this deception and how The Roman Catholic Church pulled it off when so many people saw such value In it seems like a hell of a task to get the toothpaste back in the tube like that And you know, when John the Baptist learned this for himself because I mean he was taught within the spiritual traditions of the Middle East. He brought this to Jerusalem and it didn't cause a battered eyelid because the local people said hey, this is like the old story that we're getting back and we can practice this again because the Romans had also outlawed it before the Christians showed up and the Catholic Church showed up. The idea was that there was sort of power vacuum

49:50 And it really comes back to the idea of ages. The earth and humanity and civilization works in a cyclical motion in ages, and these ages take about 4,320 years to complete. We're at the end of one such age right now you may have noticed, and things around the sort of change of ages begins to get a little bit scruffy. There's a lot of violence that goes on against these etheric religions. A lot of people who really understand the bigger picture with regard to initiation and shamanism get killed or physically nailed to a cross. I mean, that was an actual sort of Roman form of torture. And so within this power vacuum around the time when the Romans show up —and also the Persians begin to decimate the Near East—this idea that people could actually empower themselves to understand who they are as a soul and go about aware and awake through life

50:44 without any fear of death. And they actually wrote about this, they actually had no fear of death after they'd actually gone for the initiation because they felt that they were liberated and understood that flesh is just flesh and if someone kills you well I'm going to go live in a room next door in another level reality it's not big deal They were totally unafraid So for the Romans and Persians and all the other little fascists who were going around at the time They couldn't handle this because this is the time of Caesars and ingrained power. You can't have people thinking for themselves So, of course the ultimate thing that came from the collapse with a Roman Empire was the Catholic Church I mean the Empire and the church were one in the same thing they also couldn't handle the idea as a bunch of guys that the women would had the most highest important level

51:35 position within the temple. And they thought, no-no-no this whole thing has to be a patriarchal thing and we're in charge we're going to be your intermediary with God you can't say that you can contact God yourself You have come through us because we need the job and a paycheck It's literally that crass it's really that simple nothing more heinous than that and they basically were hounding Emperor Constantine who was a worshipper of Godman called Mithra, which the tradition which I have now found goes back to India in 6000 BC. And here's the story this god man Mithra is born to a virgin in a cave his birth is heralded by shepherds and guardian angels and a star that comes over the cave he goes away on their walkabouts to the sacred mountains for 40 days has other incredible enlightened vision of how things really are

52:30 comes back to teach a religion to the masses, then he gets nailed to a cross puts in the sarcophagus gets up three days later and is declared risen from the dead. The church thought that this was a pretty interesting story and so did Constantine because he was worshipping Mithra and they hounded him so much to the point where he finally just gave up and said look I'm getting a little old. I mean, title is harassment." I'm just going to take Mithra remove that name and then put the word Jesus in the story and you look at the story of Mithra and Jesus and it's exactly the same story. And that's how i basically fooled everybody because the church and all the powers-that-be at the time had basically massacred anybody who was intellectual so there was a lot of illiteracy

53:14 There was no other challenge this role unless you're actually hiding away in someplace like Alexandria. And this is why the library gets burned in Alexandria because you've got all these dangerous liberals, intellectuals who can spill the beans. So again nothing new to what we're experiencing today. You always go after the power source which is the intellect. Anybody who can undo the nonsense that you are coming up with is dangerous to the elite. So we're really reliving this thing again and again, but that's pretty much how the story of Jesus the martyr comes into play now The story is that Jesus was a real person He was an initiate of the mysteries And when you understand the language of the mystery schools and how he was actually initiated

53:57 You read the Bible again with this in mind, and suddenly a lot of the stuff that makes no sense makes a lot of sense. Because he was speaking as an initiate—that's why the Bible doesn't make any sense—when they describe him as the son of God, that actually gives away his highest level of initiation. And here is how it works You went into the mysteries tradition as a disciple, and you entered the school as a son of a woman. When you graduated from your first year, you were declared a son of a man. If you're able to proceed through next level of initiation, you'll be declared a son of the gods. And if you did proceed with the final out-of-body experience and you came back alive—and most of them did, as far I'm aware—

54:42 and you were risen from the dead, you are declared a son of God because you were as a god. That's what it means! It doesn't mean that you are the only person who is a son of god because surprise surprise we all are sons and daughters of God. God is us. He's not some person with a big beard out there. It's within us. So just by saying that in the Bible Jesus gives away his highest level of initiation but you have to know the language in order to understand this And it does make sense. You know, you have a lot of examples in the book where you point out that restored context and it does add clarity and I get the desire for power and control but man if they just would've had the experience how would they not just get on board? Like what was the stick up the Romans ass is that had them destroying this stuff rather than just adopting it and experiencing it like the Egyptians or even the Greeks

55:33 Well, because the world in the bigger picture of things and this is something that's very deep in the mysteries teachings. You have to understand the bigger picture of cycles we are here having an experience We have personal experiences as a soul. We will come here to do an individual journey And that's fine But in the bigger cog of things we also are here to have a collective experience and that's where it gets a little bit more confusing for some people Once you understand this and accept it, life becomes very much simpler because every 4,000 or so years we live out an experience. The current experience, the current paradigm is about giving away our personal power to the few to understand what happens with that experience. You can see where now it's... We've learned this and we're living in very dangerous times right now of chaos where

56:23 As a culture, understand that okay we've understood that giving away our power to few people does not work very well. So let's try something else this is why there's so much chaos around right now We subconsciously are striving to achieve another level of order and it will come because even physics knows that in order to go from one level of order to another level of order you have to have chaos And the greater the amount of chaos The greater the potential jump to another level of order And that's how the universe really works. This stuff keeps happening again and again and again." So, the Romans, the Catholic Church, and also people who are extremists who take for example, the idea of Islam which is actually a very beautiful faith if you just read it for what it is. You got these extremists were using this for narrow political gain. They're part of the actual puzzle

57:16 We're not just sort of playing out this experience, but also waking people up that violence doesn't work. Miscommunication doesn't work. Lack of cooperation doesn't work so in a way these violent acts are also mirrors for us to wake up and bring ourselves together I'll give you a very good example actually when the tsunami hit Indonesia few years ago All the governments in the world said, oh yes we're going to donate billions of dollars to rebuilding and humanitarian aid. Absolute nonsense! Hardly anyone give any money Most of the money came from donations from you and me to help local people. And it showed that under certain conditions in this state of great crisis, humans will pull together and look after themselves. I thought that was a wonderful way of showing that we do have a certain level of control but it does sometimes take a catastrophe to bring out the best in us is just part of the human condition unfortunately because sometimes people have to be shocked into action

58:12 And it's just the way things are and the way that things always will be. But things are in their correct place in order for us to have this experience, so you know I...this is why I tell people don't fret that we got the wrong president and all of these violent acts around the world they're part of a big picture just accept them for what they are You know? Don't become like a robot and don't feel empathy with people who get caught in the crosshairs but at the same time, recognize that this is part of a wake-up call and there's a large underground movement that never gets any attention. There are lot more of us than there are them and sooner or later...and I'm pretty close now to the switch is very close to being clicked through. I think people have had enough and you can feel it so yeah this is what it means to understand the mystery secrets and to play into this knowledge and once you understand this, you can live your life with

59:04 the bigger problems of the chaotic world, but be able to rise above it. Yeah I think those are great points and definitely a good personal philosophy to live by! But you have done some great work man and you really have gotten to the heart of i think a major manipulation especially with this living resurrection ritual. I got mad respect for ya before we really call it in remind the people where they can find more your work your website anything else you got going on that they should know about? Oh, if you have a few days to spare or a few weeks. InvisibleTemple.com has all kinds of books and DVDs in there and all kinds of articles so enjoy! And if you like it tell somebody else. Right on short sweet awesome You are the man Freddy thanks again and take care out there Thanks Greg

59:50 Hallelujah people and sweet Easter to you Freddy Silva big hand to him great job So glad I found his book when I did and that it just so happened a workout that this was released on Easter A little extra prankster energy for ya And I think Freddie makes a great case for this being the truth about the Roman Catholic manipulation and the twisted material that Bible is talking about. It also makes sense out of what's said in Egyptian mystery schools, and all that. And I can completely see all the steps of warping this shamanic tradition where we used to chant and take some mushroom caps and drink some psychedelic brew and quote-unquote become one with God

1:00:29 And they said, no no no. This is Jesus he died for your sins He was brutally murdered just look at that cross and now we're gonna eat his body and drink His blood It's cool this isn't fucked up at all! Meanwhile they took away the useful compounds for having a spiritual experience and replaced them with a cracker and some cheap wine THIS is The Great Sin folks Oh, I don't really know. But this is sort of the narrative that I've always had and enjoyed and Freddy has really helped to fill in more space on that map definitely. I loved the book and had a blast talking to him And I hope you take time in the Easter season to shaman your way into enlightenment rather than taking kids to see a guy in a bunny suit or worse go in a mass

1:01:12 Because I think we need to speed up our evolution as best we can, friends. These are troubled times like our friend Gordon White says in Chaos Protocols First step you gotta become invincible so take risks and get comfortable with the unknown and wild swings because the pendulum has broken loose if you ask me But again, to back up Freddie's wider perspective here. If you dig there have been quite a few researchers who have dug deep into the scriptures and Christian traditions and come to the conclusion that it is all based on psychedelics and tripping out at its source. A lot of time these are straight narrow religious scholars because who else is really going to look that deeply in this stuff

1:01:51 And they say, wait a minute. This is all about something else entirely! John Michael Allegro who wrote Sacred Mushroom in the Cross is probably the most famous example He said Santa's suit is red and white because of the Amanita muscaria mushroom This is why we hang stockings to dry the mushrooms on the mantle this is why reindeer fly with names like Dancer and Prancer and Blitzen, because people are looking at them and tripping out. And if you look at nature videos on YouTube You can see that reindeer actually eat this mushroom So that's what people are seeing in how the story got started It's all based on the mushroom experience apparently and who is Santa himself but a person who comes from the North Pole or The hole in the inner earth and brings gifts Or supplies to the people of the northern regions where it's most cold when they need him most

1:02:36 I just love this sort of stuff, these types of interpretations of why things are the way they are. What are the roots of these traditions and holidays? Easter is a big one! It's multifaceted just like Christmas but I think this lost art of resurrection, the out-of-body experience and as Gordon says becoming invincible might be a big part of it And it's a message that at least would be one of the most valuable, useful interpretations for listeners today looking at the rocky road ahead. So if you've yet to support The Plus Show, you are really missing out on twice as much conversation every week! You'll love it so much more and this week we talked about the story of Jesus the Initiate in those missing years some of the forbidden or excluded Gospels and the Nag Hammadi texts and some of the exotic things they say

1:03:25 How the Morningstar term originated with this living resurrection ritual, and the Amurumuru portal near Lake Titicaca. I'm sure i'm butchering that but that is interesting We also got into the ball courts of the Almec and the Maya and correcting the played-with-severed-heads narrative And actually describing their true purpose which was mimicking The Game Of The Gods We talked about the Celts and sites like Newgrange, and this tradition in their culture. How funny that Newgrange is in the book when I just got back from Ireland and actually saw it firsthand! A little bit of synchronicity there... And we also talked about the Templars and how the secret traditions got to them, and how Freddie looks at them as opposed to some other researchers we've talked to

1:04:11 I also added a link in the show notes about that Wrigley Museum on Catalina Island of giant bones that were actually used in the construction. The article puts a different spin on it and says that the Wrigley family is who helped to break it all down and ship off these Native American bones to all their proper places for study and research and all that. And sure, an elite family contributing to the removal of this kind of thing spun as an altruistic morally upstanding mission? Yeah that does make more sense but there was definitely something strange in that neighborhood I also put out a video you'll find on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter of me and Mark Devlin going around Laurel Canyon touring some of the serious hot spots talked about in Dave McGowan's book. We didn't get close to a lot of things, but it is kind of informative. Mark definitely breaks it down for ya and it might be...a little bit of icing on the THC cake this week. Check it out!

1:05:06 So there it is. Religion stuff isn't usually my bag, but getting to a source that I think is more useful to people IS interesting. Can't deny its that time of year! I like the added provocativeness of releasing it today... But it's all in good fun. I hope nobody is so attached to those aspects in their life that they can't look at them a different way? But either way, I love you guys Got some great shows coming for the rest of the month, but that's all from me today. I've done my part! Your move shaman suppressors spirituality stiflers and consciousness controllers... your fucking move.