Eric P. Dollard | Tesla Tech, Understanding Aether, & The Digital Demon

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01:30 All right, all right people. Getting the party started from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carlwood and for years we've been dissecting the damage done by the power elite for most of human history and speculating over which areas have set us back the most Is it debt-based central banking which has everyone redlining their lives to make more green paper as they attempt to escape the debt trap inherent in the economic system itself? Is it the suppression of natural medicine and the powerful reality of nutrition based health and wellness, in exchange for petrochemicals and radiation based solutions yielding these same power pyramid players billions off the backs of our dead friends and family.

02:09 Or might it be the quarantine around certain foundational principles of nature that bright minds like Wilhelm Reich, Viktor Schauberger and Nikola Tesla tried to teach us about? As well as harnessing the abundance all around us which could equalize everyone on the planet's access to electricity heat light and power without discrimination or even the need to invoke the economic system at all. Wherever you might plant your flag, it's option three that we're going to be drilling home today. Not only because it upsets the corporate controllers hell-bent on sucking from the parasitic power grid but also because the eradication of this esoteric understanding has been a process that started with warping and twisting the fundamental knowledge of the entire natural world in a way in which the damage caused by that mind virus is hard to even calculate

02:57 Now in today's world the holistic beauty and tangled elegance and built-in abundance of our human terrarium seems like wishful fantasy rather than the way things really are. And the positive philosophical and spiritual underpinnings inherent to that understanding are replaced with fear, greed, and a harshness it is all born out this faulty understanding of the universe itself Well, few people understand the depth of all this like today's returning guest back after four long years Eric P. Dollard Eric is an electrical engineer who is a living legend in the field of electrical research. He is considered by many to be the most knowledgeable expert alive today on the true nature of electricity, and his work he shows how all electric phenomena can be mathematically measured and engineered without using calculus or Maxwell's equations. He's also the only person since Tesla's death to successfully build a real magnifying transmitter

03:53 He's written too many landmark papers to name and given fascinating conference presentations like four quadrant representation of electricity, the extra luminal transmission systems of Tesla and Alex Anderson. The power of the ether as related to music in electricity musical seismograph in history and theory and practice of the electrical utility system It's an honor and a pleasure to have him here again. So let's get into it, the proverbial Tesla 2.0, A true guru of electrical engineering and a bright mind for our troubled times. Eric, my man welcome back to The Higher Side. OK well thank you!

04:30 Yes this is a real pleasure i can't believe it's been four years big thanks to erin murakami for getting us connected again, no last time we talked about your history and background for people who don't remember you had a lab at rca and along successful career that was sort of taken from you. And as soon as u get going again your work would be destroyed or sabotage live down the toilet carola for years it seem like the sort of rough history out expect for person doing this order work And given the people in the past who were pushed out of the circle in similar ways, but it seems like the last four years have been a lot more positive. EPD Labs is going strong. The presentations and demonstrations you give show real functioning equipment and it seems like a lotta roadblocks have been lifted and now you're in the pretty advanced stages with a lotta the work you've been doing. Is that fair to say? Are things looking up? Well yes and no

05:26 Show there is not really does not really the necessary funding to do a lot of these things and that the problem is just no one really interested anymore have nobody help me. Traditionally in my history people that show up to help actually have the opposite in mind so what's good is now i have a place to keep my books and my test equipment work on my cars and sell, I can continue at least on the writing and right now which is kind of what people are most interested in so presently i'm working on my next presentation so it isn't a last minute deal.

06:02 Like the usually are where everything gets crammed in the one month. Put about two thousand powerpoint slides to still down to eight hundred and make cetera et cetera so that presentation i gave on the power grid debacle was an absolute monster, put together it was five and a half hour presentation but i think i got the point across at the entire power grid of this country is being sabotaged by Something that i can't definitely put my finger on but whatever it is a small level and its intent. On the completely turning our power grid into kind of an electromagnetic terrorist tool,

06:42 That is actually you know that's something we talked about a little bit last time touched on at least this idea that the current state of our electrical grid, is very shaky and in fact the person like yourself who has such knowledge of electrical engineering can clearly see that the grid has been set up to have a vulnerability that is completely unnecessary that they've got out of their way to connect it in a way that i would do the most damage is what you're saying can you elaborate on that. Yeah it used to be there, the electrical transmission and distribution system was closed system so that wasn't really susceptible to current sore or straight zero sequence currents are what have you but now the whole thing is

07:36 With deliberation and a great expense being turned inside out to be the opposite is being turned into a giant antenna so. What's my equipment that i have when i travel around, my car basically is kinda like an insect you know it looks like an insect with the antennas it actually senses that way. The fields around it and what have u with your equipment in the car i can sense my electric environment Turn it in the audio because i guess i can consider this a more of a conspiratorial form i will express my conspiracy theory from what i've determined to my car. Digital is a totalitarian fascist reality and its attempted to basically just overwhelm everything, can pull people into its artificial malevolence the enemy to that is radio

08:36 Because radio basically can't be controlled it uses the natural medium to communicate. Add has an interesting side effect and that allows us to be in contact with, the electrical nature of the planet through a little bit interference you hear on the way propagation changes and how response to the sun spots in the ionosphere magnetic field. That's basically my one of my main interest in it so What is being introduced is every time you go to walmart or whatever and you buy an electrical device it has a jammer built into it. This jammer basically singles out the AM broadcast band so that you can't listen to your favorite talk show host, get jams out CB radio so that you can communicate with the other truckers causes massive interference hf communications

09:34 There's no legitimate engineering reason why a simple device like a light dimmer has to become a massive world war two style barrage transmitter. So this is what you're plugging into your wall outlets now the power grid is being turned inside out so rather than having closed isolated loops it's all on a common neutral which is a massive antenna which carries interference, Show from the conspiratorial standpoint what i see going on here is a deliberate effort most likely by the chinese, you completely wipe out the process of radio broadcasting and communications. Wow there's no technical or functional reason for making this change it just seems like maybe the setup for something in the future well

10:27 You know what i say that's the conspiratorial side of it the other, other way of looking at it would be the babylonian element nobody understands any of this stuff anymore. And safety reliability legality are all non-existent so important components that used to exist in various electrical and electronic devices are being left out because they cost money and add weight So consequently you get these nasty transients and other complications. And then they want to eliminate all the transformers from the power supplies, are using these switching circuits... The Einstein and electron electronics concepts and all that completely ignore the electric field so these things are basically just shredding the ether around them so that they can save a buck

11:21 And Einstein says that the electric field doesn't exist, so in their mind it doesn't. So they don't care what they do to it but it just plays complete havoc with all of my radio equipment What this is cause is a massive parasitic current inside the earth which is completely wiping out my research. In one location where a lot of effort time and money was spent in putting up, receiving system once we connected to the earth we found that the parasitic zero sequence Harmonic component traveling inside the earth was twenty million times stronger than the signal we wanted to receive you could actually connect a telephone receiver between twelve hundred foot spam. Connecting to a set of eight foot ground rods on each and then you got a telephone pan set something that most people probably don't know what it is anymore so loud you couldn't hold your ear,

12:17 Wow, wow. And you mentioned the Babylonian element last time we talked you had mentioned a sort of neo-pagan cult that was somewhat interfering in your work as much as you could surmise is now what you're talking about some kind of philosophical difference and how to manage energy and electricity that is derived from some cult like beliefs? Well that's another element And that's kind of more, you know like on a spiritual level. So a lot of the nefarious activities of that element have become kinda quite public lately because they're very deviant people

12:59 They seem to derive pleasure on like trashing everything around them and wrecking people's lives. And that is what they live for, and I know that directly because i was at the receiving end of it when these people came in and took over our town, Boinas. And I was the only one who stood up against them that survived and caused significant damage so This is the smiling face that's presently in the public mind is in this whole genre of humans is hillary clinton or this app stein guy would be an example these people are sicko stat.

13:40 I'm not qualified to get into the depth of. Presently i am reading a book called, Mass psychology of fascism by Wilhelm Reich to help me understand the new fascist age that we're moving into right now, the next totalitarian society which will not be isolated to borders this time it will be global and this is what's being fought right now by few people that still have brain on their head Well yes amen and most of the things that they do. And where they get it from are all clearly secret so it is tough to get a real handle on their true motivations goals and belief system, but you can definitely see the general shape of something that is not good for humanity no hit its parasite to humanity. It's like having a ticket your neck the size of a football yes indeed it is

14:37 So the stuff you're doing is just really amazing and i guess to try to undo some of the damage at the school system and maybe get people's mental wheels turning a little bit, we could maybe touch on electrical engineering history in where things went wrong i pulled a short section from your paper revival of the science electricity in the digital age. where you say, a fundamental electric medium, or ether which fills all space and permeates all matter. Regardless of the fruitfulness of this idea of the ether and its tubes of electric induction it was later forcibly driven from electrical theory and replaced with a false idol, the electron, and its sacred companion Einstein-Minkowski relativity

15:41 And that's definitely the story in a nutshell, but I'm kind of an awe that this corporate academic cabal could suppress this holistic understanding once it was already out there. Can you elaborate on that part of the story and where we took this negative 180? Well, it's a little bit at a time. It's always done by attrition. So a stage at a time, false concepts were introduced just like with anything else, just like what happened with the food No little bit of the time for example you know i basically live on fruits and vegetables. And for me fruit juice is a very important part of my daily life it used to be you go to the liquor store gas station if you had a quarter bottle, great fruit juice well all of a sudden there is no more grapefruit juice

16:32 Okay well now i get apple juice will there's no more apple juice is no more orange juice there's no more fruit juice but there's a row after row after row of cans and bottles of chemical formulations that even though i have a good background in chemistry i can hardly understand what's in. Yes i've noticed that too and there's nothing i can drink in seven eleven, No there won't be at some point the general aim is there will be any of this stuff available anymore people believing on these chemicals and that's part of the reason why they're getting so ugly and nasty.

17:11 there was a time when people had better understanding of the holistic world and the role of electricity in it, and then we have this incremental change where they do this complete 180 flip and now that stuff is so foreign to mainstream. I think this audience is a bit familiar with either physics electric universe model velikovsky reich schauberger and of course tesla these people on subjects at all had a piece of the elephant But if people were just to clear their minds of the erroneous paradigm we have today and you were to explain the fundamentals of our system or environment like we were five years old, how would you set us straight when it comes to understanding this electric medium or the ether and its role in the natural world? Well I saw something that can say in one sentence. Fair! I know it's a little complicated Yeah so basically that's what my writing has been about is to try to systematically

18:07 Clarify these things through the complete redevelopment of the theory of electricity right from square one. So that concepts that are presently being implemented, you just have to reject all those things the electron and all this type of stuff relativity speed of light all these things are ultimately meaningless so everything has to be redefined and since i started When i was destitute and no one's valley had nothing else to do so i decided ok this was the point which i was gonna, deep in the bushes rewrite the entire book on electricity and that started with this thing now that's known as the lonepine writings.

18:56 So presently I'm kind of taking that to the next level for my next presentation. I've written thousands and thousands of pages of material but there's basically no money and there is no help, to process any of this stuff so basically right now i am in a dead horse farms situation. There is simply no interest in any of this stuff anymore order a support level. None not one times worth other than you know i get random donations which basically you know pay utility bills on the home dot, Say and you know that i'm not getting some kind of help with this but the days of the josh reynolds and all that you know that give you financing a twenty five thousand dollar hunks. In a day where are you now i could still get tubes in transistors and there was still no basic surplus industry and several other people my age to work with me about all gone i am completely isolated i might as well be on mars,

19:58 Right it seems like the current operation is more bootstrapped based off the generous donations of inquisitive individuals rather than the big systemic, massive funding that goes into other projects or any kind of corporate situation. It's because i guess they realize that this stuff is actually gonna be upsetting to their financial apple card and so suppression as the way and so. The only people who are gonna find it our individuals who have all tourists motives in seeing that paradigm flipped again yeah but species no longer exists that's the problem,

20:37 It is very sad and i definitely impressed with all the material you put out aaron is just flooded me with all kinds of stuff that i've tried to wrap my head around but again i've been not kind of conditioned. Living in this system as we all have so it's hard to really reverse that damage and conceive of things freshly but, electric ether apparently its everywhere i guess is it fair to say it's the medium in which all matter Matter of all kinds planets people everything kind of emerges from yeah it's a primordial medium. That makes sense so that this is what will help right gets into with his or go home because he speaks in a more common language it's kinda, it would be easier to understand his concepts than you know to go dive and the some mathematical symbolism sure all that

21:32 But this primordial eat a medium keeps presenting itself but. The academia people that they're off in there all the things i think that im going through with the seismic deal which basically has gone dead horse farms let's take for example you know i built the system it was worth about one and half million dollars in the mojave desert and then it wasn't bad old add their results late no interest whatsoever in paying the ransom Add that station was destroyed even though the marine corps and the county everybody was interested in it when this other element comes in there's nothing you can do to fight these people.

22:17 They're everywhere they have infinite power basically. Have control of all the intelligence agencies law enforcement agencies now after they successfully destroyed the bell system now they have a communication system where they can alter things and make you think that somebody saying something there not or suppress you or what have you so, show at any rate i know people That work in the government realm who know other people that have really pushed this electric seismology stuff to the point that it's on an engineering level. And there is no utility companies that are interested in taking this thing on an engineering level but the problem is because these people are academics,

23:09 They're not interested it's a threat to them they just simply want more money for more funding to do more experiments. And if you actually try to get them to help you, become an advisor or do help with interacting with a specific utility company. To point out yes indeed there's experimental verification they got their PhD they work in government laboratories they're not interested it's a dead horse I'm sick of whipping it won't move Well it seems like if people were to understand there's a relationship between electro frequency and seismic activity in earthquakes i mean that could lead to this understanding that they wanna quarantine. Yeah basically the whole einsteinian philosophy despises electricity absolutely despise is it so as soon as you try to introduce anything electrical,

24:10 into a round such as seismology you are in trouble so for example there was a successful seismic. Forecasting system built in greece is called the van system there's a book that came out recently on it my god and this, am i give an idea presentation of this is last conference so that basically you know kind of quantified What's going on here so this fan system that the van is the initials of the three people that develop their system it's a physics minded system not really. Electrically engineered or what have you assist they drove ground rods into the dirt until they found a spot that was electrically active and then they connected to ground rods together through a length long distance telephone line very similar to what i'm doing

25:02 and then put galvanometers into this loop, you know of the earth in the wire. And the precursors were impossible to ignore absolutely impossible to ignore they set up a network they were able with over ninety nine percent accuracy determined that magnitude and location and then these were academics And the powers to be in greece got their phone lines pulled down and got there power turned off and even though they achieve world fame. And we're right there you know and in the list of all that critical references with the scientists that i had mentioned at the government scientist that i know the whole thing just weathered up a blue way on the wind tell us all this time,

25:53 Add the united states geological survey if you're into this stuff can be regarded as a terrorist organization they will do everything in their power to make monkeys out of the scientists that are developing this stuff. So now I won't mention their names, but you know i've talked to him personally. They've been raked over the coals so much that they won't talk about it anymore you know they're all pouty about it they don't have a person on like me which is an immediate show of teeth. They just run and stick your tail between your legs in whimper rather than getting angry and hostile and disruptive so basically at all ends there

26:33 You know, then I'm told that the USGS will actually come in and destroy their instruments. And it's war! It's basically warfare. It's a war against electricity. Hmm... Man, and I was lucky enough to see that seismic presentation on the system that you built, and it's a bit over my head but you're definitely getting some readings and these frequencies do seem to change right before an earthquake I guess for the people listening can you tell us a bit about what data your point from and the real mechanism behind earthquakes where are these readings that your getting actually coming from what's the catalyst. Well basically what happens is an electrical stress situation builds up along with mechanical stress situation, and then there's a certain critical level of where the electrical stress at the mechanical stress start to interact in feedback positive feedback runaway

27:30 And then you start getting very heavy current flows and because there's a boundary condition involved the currents bounce off the boundaries and you start to get very powerful alternating currents. And if you have a type of underground antenna system such as the Alexander said antenna, You can receive those currents if you're near enough to the fault and they are very powerful and they are very easy to detect. And then next, these currents start because current is magnetism and magnetism is current and current is mechanical force, and magnetism is mechanical force. The thing that the academia and the Einsteiners can't get is there's nothing... you can't say that there's current and there's magnetism and there's force they're all one thing so when you got current that means you've got magnetism it mean she got forced so now that starts exerting force on their rocks now you start to get very powerful magnetic fields that are also very easy to detect

28:33 So out of this last rich crash earthquake my friend that works in the government installation on his own have been monitoring the call bag the tomatoes. And even though these magnetometers were located a few hundred miles away from the point of disruption they picked up Significant distortions in the earth magnetic field now my situation i was in my car and organ in the wilderness free from all the noise listening to these things. And my radio have modified so that i can tune to the band below it which is now pretty much abandoned that used to be there maritime communications telegraph band this blank now show,

29:18 Add sunset my radio in the car sounded like it was trying to chew its way out of the car i never heard such crazy sounds. And i knew immediately that there is a telework event in progress somewhere, it's like a noise storm and i have determined with absolute certainty because you know these earthquakes don't occur all the time so if there's a long wait in between and i might not have the instruments but fortunately i have this stuff Good enough that i can carry around with me is before every major earthquake twelve hours to forty eight hours beforehand there's a massive noise storm that reflects off the atmosphere. And it's very similar to the noise storm that comes out of hurricane except the hurricane storms are more over frying and popping where the earthquake noise storms or more even yes,

30:09 So right there is a definite forecasting tool and because it's a high frequency, medium frequency to high frequency. It's possible to build directive antennas and triangulate these things and pinpoint pretty much where the earthquake or seismic event you know from the more scientific terminology is going to occur. Much more than you know a section of old style open wire long distance telephone line to do this stuff there's nothing high tech and you plug it into an audio amplifier with the speaker, can u have a filter that you know tunes out the navy signals for the submarines in the other video transmitting is going on inside your.

30:54 Which is the interfaith with it if there's nothing complicated there's nothing expensive that this system in grace was a. Fifteen mile long telephone line to ground rods and galvanometer, that's all that's all that's involved in that case they have to find sensitive spots but because i'm using the electro dynamic method Which is based on kind of a radiation i don't have to find the sensitive spot because it's emanating out of the ground everywhere. Electro magnetically for the lack of a better word rather than conductive like so it's not like i don't know if there is probably no one alive anymore that remembers your green crystal, crystal radio sets were used to have this little thing just little piece of piano wire you would poke around on this little lump of lead sulfate until you found one little crystal and all the sudden then all the radio stations will come pouring out of the headphone.

31:48 The van system was like that it had to look for the sensitive spot where the system that i've been developing and other people. Like the scientist that i have mentioned have been experimenting with this more of a radio type of thing, So it's all, it's all engineerable. Basic engineerable every utility company could have one of these things there wouldn't be in that case you know you wouldn't have to be alerting the public and causing a panic and all these types of things because basically its the utility systems are the ones you know the fires what have you and all that stuff mainly the gas companies would be most interested but the problem is

32:31 This digital totalitarianism is working its way into every aspect of our society and because these people's brains are turned inside out, they fight it. And we really have reached a hopeless situation so basically I've declared the seismic forecasting a dead horse and have no more interest in it whatsoever. There's no point by beating the dead horse too long nobody's interested. So what I did was take an alternate approach to entertainment People want to be entertained true so what i'm gonna do is i have a basic seismic sensing system in a mine that has very sophisticated transducers. And i designed an amplifier to go with it that has basically one million and million times amplification,

33:26 And then that goes into a double sideband modulator. It's an XYZ coordinate system as far as the earth motion goes in the mind and then that will be converted into tones, musical tones that the mind can grasp basic musical triad it is called like C E G would be one or F A C I'm gonna use F A C And basically it will be inside of the earth will be turned into wind chimes and this thing will be so sensitive that, the rocking of the earth and its kinda twisting and you know because it's not a smooth motion through space because there is somewhat discontinuous.

34:07 and there's electric fields, solar flares and what have you. The Earth is in a... as I showed in the Landers installation on the scope the surface of the Earth is like the surface of the ocean there are waves all the time so basically you can put on this stereo headphones and actually experience on audio level being inside the earth and perceiving all these Very you know small but significant in the day and compass physical dimensions of the earth. It's kind of a new type of stereo or stereo so right now my total concentration is on her stereo, add also listening to the impulses and noise storms and that kinda stuff like i mentioned these no whistlers and a rural courses and all these types of natural sounds that is fun double

35:01 So that is the direction i'm going right now. Right on right yes i think it would be very entertaining and i appreciate the background on this electric dynamic seismic forecasting because you don't hear about much anymore but people used to be all up in arms about the heart antenna array and speculation was that it could cause earthquakes and that's a Technology that seems very adjacent in this kind of a correction on that whole heart thing is just big. Nothing burger it's a conspiring there's nothing to any of that at all, all that stuff is a lot of that was cooked up by government disinformation officer named tom beard and his cohorts which really work to introduce a lot of harm into the understanding of all this stuff and very successfully let everybody on the wrong path

35:51 What is free energy and what have you very very destructive people they really right right at the onset when it was looking good day came in and just twisted the whole thing upside down basically the harp is an ionic spirit research tool. And i pick up on my radio equipment there's nothing going on on the sun like right now the sun has gone dead, There's no more solar cycle which is gonna have profound implications for human life on earth. Socially all humans just become barbarians like in the dark age and i don't think there's any shortage of evidence to that and then the weather gets cold, climate changes

36:32 Radio longest radio propagation dries up it will have all kinds of you know biological effects and what have you. Wow how long do you think it would take for those affects to fully roll out in the peak, i think the people that are in the know on that or looking at about a ten year period shit people will be begging for global warming is gonna get really cold Humans are just gonna turn into animals. Wow, no interest in anything and on top of that this digital disruption you know the human psyche and what have you is situation is terminal wow well. That's depressing but to return to entertaining aspects of this work your doing I like the idea making music out of the earth

37:25 Another thing that this kinda relates to is apparently seismic readings seem to indicate that when you get down into the earth it is more hollow than it is solid. Is that the case that your deriving from these readings not my own but from other people's it is kind of strange frequencies that im getting are octaves above what The academia's would say it would be possible for a solid earth there seems to be some kind of boundary condition that's creating in the very low frequency to the ultra low frequency band. It's kinda hard you know it's like what was inside the sun will never know what's inside the sun what's inside the earth we will never know either but just from the basic principles, physical dynamics the earth would have to be hollow

38:18 The whole thing about you know the gravity force getting greater and greater as it goes to the center. What that kind of sounds good but if you try to map the fields out in the stresses it doesn't work out like that is an impossibility means that the intensity of the force will be infinite. At the central singularity point which is absurdity so there has to be a, A kind of a equilibrium point at some distance from the surface to the center of the earth along that radius where, the forces would turn backwards and go outwards rather than in words.

38:54 That's really interesting i'm fascinated by that concept a lot of people talk about the prospect of an inner sun so to speak and that seems so wild but a lot of other people expressed it to me as you have the sun and the inner sun has the two kind of holes in their creating fields that would be. Like you say kinda more, There be an equilibrium along the cross they would both be pushing towards the cross i mean is that the concept that you entertain. Well you got back coming from outside and you have what's coming from inside out so to me it would be natural there will be some kind of, for lack of better word no energy zone in the center radiating outwards

39:44 And from the mechanical standpoint you know if a smaller mass is attracted to larger mass and you have, you know an object inside the earth then there's a backwards mountain on the inside surface of the earth that would be attracted towards that. So it can't just keep getting greater and greater as you get to the center because the center of mass From the attraction standpoint would be towards the outside now of course that operates in conflict with the inverse square law but i'm not a strong believer in the inverse square walk there could be something else going on here what's your skills and fluxes that we don't even know about involved in this situation so nobody can say with any absolution what exactly is going on here i tend to approach things from you know for more common sense

40:36 what if i learned as an engineer approach. Well there are all these science articles coming out the talk about mountain ranges under the earth oceans under the earth and that's super fascinating in their seems to be a lot more unexplored territory, can we even realize i don't know why would think that only does zero point zero one percent of the outside surface is the only thing that's important on a body this large Yeah it's a complicated situation you have all these currents and stresses in that that's what i've been getting after you know with my. My longest telephone lines along line efforts is to build the radio telescope to listen to the inside of the earth. That has been my fundamental objective since i first discovered this stuff in my landers facility,

41:28 Wow and listening to the inside of your this very compelling but how far do you think we have to either drill down or x ray the earth to can approve that it's hollow inside how far down past across what we have to get to really like wake people up to the fact that there are models wrong, where can i can't be done mechanically. You know you only control down so deep right i think eight miles is the furthest so far yeah and it allegedly you know they're going off of reflection refraction the proverbial day i prefer to call it yet. If u change today to get you got a much better understanding what's going on encourage everybody experiment in can't talk to their friends and resist saying they start saying it will clarify everything, you'll see exactly what's happening here

42:19 I'm more interested in the audio and radio frequency aspect of it. So basically, alls I need is borings down 100 feet and a row of them connected to this transmission system that I developed out of the Alex Anderson design and have a network for directive receiving. And that way then I can pinpoint the electrical activity if there was a network of these things all over the planet You know it's hard to say you could never really. You know being a science you can't say what's going to happen until you do it, you have to do the experiments right now there are no more experiments there is no bogus equations or cooked up and then you try to find out of physical force fit. Add that's not even necessary anymore so just like tesla said they wonder three equation equation and they lost all contact with reality hmm

43:16 What it is, it's a religion. It's a mystic religion and its in tune with the whole philosophy that goes along with digital totalitarianism Right now we're just like Germany was in 1933 We are gonna move into a totalitarian age that is going to be the most frightening That the human species has ever conceived And no one will be able to think and they won't be able to do any of this stuff anymore I'm living in dead horse farms my world's dead and gone i try to find get money for something it just they just wanna pull off you know what is some other avenue that, is completely a new record the direction of trying to go on there's nothing u can do its digital. What's interesting that you bring up that period history and germany because it seems like that was the last time here in which these esoteric sciences were really being paid attention too

44:10 Well, that was about the end. That would be the end of the air world war two was kind of a global readjustment program to basically finally bury all this stuff and And then get into this you know nuclear and chemical i think it you already use that terminology in our just are talking here. Willhelm reich reading his books now on fascism he calls it the chemical atomic whatever like a ball, Hmm that in the 50s you could see that was the case, you know That's when the food became all synthetic people became totally unnatural in their life Everything was like sterilized and neurotic kind of like a worship of death. I

44:56 Right was pointing out you know that this had to be fought against and the methodology is to do it which basically mainly started with not screwing your children up. And that revival their right key and concept revival actually came about in the sixties into the seventies but the whole thing just turned right around again so basically the summer of love turned into the winter hey. Man and yet this it is so pervasive i mean its basically a death call like you say i guess. Do you have any idea what really drives that are motivated just destruction is it some kind of spiritual entity that's actually influencing the, human powers that be right refers to it as the emotional plague add red points out

45:48 Over and over again in his book on fascism that you can't blame the charismatic or tyrannical leaders. The masses want fascism, can he use is the collapse of the soviet revolution and introduction of the primordial marxist communism. And how the whole thing turned into totalitarian regime which was totally out of touch with original concept because stats the world that people like to live it Add it if i get five focuses intensely on as he repeatedly points out is that reactionary versus revolutionary behavior.

46:28 So that you can't really make an improvement. It's it's always reactive like this whole political quagmire now, right? You know one side reacts against the other and then the key tool the fuel that starts that feeds the fire of fascism a Totalitarianism is the introduction of racial hate we don't have any shortage to that now do we know how many times how many times Do you hear that word when you turn on the radio or the TV? It's constant. Constant, so here we are right back to the same old thing and We'll have a new Hitler or but it will probably be a digital artificial malevolence Yeah, it is It's a demon if he's people angry all the time every time I see somebody sitting in front of that stinking computer They're always angry. It's a fight That's a constant fight And it's going to get worse and worse and worse as these quakes finally

47:26 Develop their what they call the singularity that's there your final goal. Will this gets really into something i wanted to ask you about in terms of relationship between electricity and life, there is a experiment you did with something called the cosmic induction generator and for people listening i wanna read a bit from the explanation written by i believe your protege john Polowski? Yeah, Polakowski. Polakowski, John Polakowski where he says one of the most awe-inspiring experiments by Eric Dollar was called the Cosmic Induction Generator or the SIG so named because the SIG produces intense lines of derelict induction that cause a plasma to form which takes on the shape and form of a galaxy in space The aspect that is extraordinary is

48:20 plasma doesn't take on random shapes or motions, it forms a mini-universe. Witnesses to the original experiment described the plasma as being alive conscious and having a memory this display of the galaxy was termed The Galaxy in A Bulb because the plasma formed in a burned out incandescent bulb." This really sounds amazing and the images are super impressive I mean what's happening here? Are you...are you happy galaxies emerge inside a light bulb exactly this is your whole electric universe what was really ironic at the time i was doing this in my rca lab out and play this i was. Currently reading willhelm reich cosmic super imposition where he showing how to streams two ether streams

49:10 What converge into each other and start the spiral form that's how the hurricane send a galaxy is all these things take shape that's what makes the earth rotate it's what keeps the planets in their spot there's nothing to do with gravity we're living at this. swirling vortex that carries the planets with it and what have you. And basically I was using the dielectric lines of force or the Faraday tubes that came out of Tesla transformers to produce this kind of dual What's flow that converged into the spirals and that's how i got to galaxy only got a complete galaxy once in the beginning. And it was very difficult to get anything of that beauty and form to appear later because there are so many factors involved and it does have seem to sense what

50:03 Is people are thinking or what have you around it to so. It kinda acts like a slide it reminds me of an old outer limits episode where they had no some big field generator you know and i'll kind of chamber and they started the producer universe in it, And they were fascinated you know that they can see the formations of stars and galaxies and then what happened that freaked everybody out is some kind of god or consciousness emerged and came out of the thing, and started harassing them and freaked all out you know that not only did a great.

50:43 what appeared to be a physical universe, but there were lives and deaths and creations and destructions. And it was a real universe with the real spiritual entity that basically attended it. God this is the most fascinating thing of all the work Aaron sent me. It really was this that blew my mind the most. That's all important context for this last image where John goes on to show you know all these pictures that look like these galaxies or this type of plasma discharges at the Electric Universe folks talk about just like you mentioned and then he hit me with this last image and it says This one is very mysterious first notice the organic plasma formation in the bulb

51:26 but also notice the quote unquote figure that appears towards the bottom of the picture. Is it an image artifact or is it an entity that decided to appear when living electricity is present? And it does look like a little ghost or figure of light, I mean what are your thoughts on that? Oh, you know... Is that this thing?! I don't know! It could have been anything but it looks weird That's one thing it what's fascinating is even went after the ball explodes because of the ether pressure you know there's a partial vacuum in at the ball supposed to implode but it doesn't explode this formation will maintain its boundary condition and stand their in space with no ball between the coils for about one second until finally can maintain his boundary condition yeah we never had anybody get injured

52:23 And in these experiments until there was a point which i periodically go through on a cyclic basis where everything is gonna get destroyed or trying to be stole from me or whatever so show the women and white. Got me out of the integrity on they tried to steal my lab at gunpoint but we had guns too there is some guy that was a research engineer developmental engineer independent, making stuff for all the car companies or what have you some kind of engine or something he was working on. And he was going to be our patron and he was gonna pay To get the stuff safely moved to Santa Barbara. Well, actually he had kind of more malevolent intent It seemed like he wanted to basically you know Get this stuff and then push us out so He came by The lab one day to see this bulb phenomenon and what was inside? The ball didn't like him and the bulb exploded through all the glass at him and this thing was like floating in space We never saw him again

53:24 What the hell man Well it's like if you do venture into some of the paranormal fields when it comes to spirits are non human intelligence there seems to be an electrical or plasma based relationship of some kind, some say you draw their attention when you start doing things in this realm and they might even show up. Some say tesla interacted with these beans is any truth that idea of not human intelligences that are somehow connected to these realms electricity and plasma seems like you might Well that's conceivable but you know we have to remember i'm an engineer and not a theologian or what have you but. But the thing is i do have this voodoo and i don't play with it, i dont wanna talk to spirits as best stay away from them

54:12 And let the voodoo do its own thing if you try to get in some kind of communications with these so-called disembodied spirits or entities or whatever. I've had friends i warned them too you know not play with this stuff and they do they end up dead trees that's a heavy consequence so it's best stay away from that Man well there is just so much impressive material so many projects you worked on i got let's go eventually we should probably take some time to give people all the right information about following up on your work purchasing your presentations and donating to the non profit that fuels the work what should people know. Well i got a more errands level of you know there's the website in the website will lead you to the you know the proper channels too,

55:04 The donations mainly like i say that they pay the electrical bill you know that the bills for the building. Add getting the work published getting my stuff published is very expensive and very difficult and ask what i'm interested now if some kind of major donor or a plurality of donations came in, Help get the stuff because i literally have thousands and thousands pages of finished material there's just no way to get this stuff out, i'm about ready just take the whole lot of it to the dump. No you can't do that why don't have room i gotta start getting rid of some of this stuff if its not going anywhere i got a ticket to the dump garage let's call your dumb

55:48 No but aaron is just been really great previous guest of ours the audience would know him and he's definitely facilitated our two conversations but it seems like he's really, trying to help create a structure that can support the work that you're doing because that's not your department. Right right and the information he gave me eric p dollar dot com is the website we know that aaron is doing his annual energy science and technology conferences in your demonstrations and presentations are a big part of that, add people can buy those online at media press dot com. And not only learn a lot but also help to support the work

56:31 Yeah, it's the addresses or whatever are there and then of course there is all kinds of material to look at. People can donate at erikpdollar.com directly to the EDP labs which is a legal... EPD, Echo Papa Delta Yes sorry your initials of course directly to the EPD Labs which is a legal non-profit so it has tax deductible donations if anybody hip to that game and it will further fund the research into the electrical science. And you know, everybody'll be happy so right on this has been a real honor and a pleasure seems like you've got a lot more stability in recognition at least since we last talked four years ago and that's a beautiful thing but there is clearly more work to do well there's plenty

57:20 Well, I look forward to hearing more in the future and good luck with the music seismograph project. That sounds exciting! Yeah i'll need it It's alive dear people it's alive wow I honestly have not had something blow me away like this in a while. And i don't want to sound like some overactive hype man, but this part about the cosmic induction generator is so insane! It really does look like Eric is doing something to form a small galaxy and a bulb emerging out of the ether

58:04 Maybe I don't know what i'm looking at, but it jives with so many other things like the fractal nature of reality. The mysterious qualities of plasma and to me most interestingly this odd connection between plasma ether physics electricity And some sort of non-human entities Many scientists who work in these realms have talked about high strangeness In the past, science alchemy and magic were often studied by the same people it seems to me. And when these current tech elite use terms like altar and summoning the demon there's a reason for that I guess you should see the pictures i will obviously include a link in the show notes but even the skinwalker ranch stuff the bigelow aerospace stuff

58:59 Weird paranormal activity seems very intertwined with electrical or computer science, and maybe it is partly that Stargate kind of idea. If you have the technology to create portals to another world but you can't physically get to that other world You beam messages and try to invoke someone to build it on their end. You need the A side AND the B side And if you can get there through physical means, then what do you need that technology for? I don't know. I'm going way off track here i guess and there was just a lot to like about this but that stuck out as the wildest stuff I've seen in awhile

59:42 I'm just a big Eric Dollard fan and i was happy to see that i could get him even laughing a couple of times. That's a notch in my belt that i'm happy to have he's such a serious guy who has been fucked around a lot, he sees a ton of problems and he does not suffer fools very well which means i gotta put a lot of work in just to get through two hours And again i'm thankful for Aaron giving me the assist on this one because it really would have been tough without him But another thing I like about Eric is that he's a purist. He lives and breathes his work, and if it's outside of that scope he's just not interested! He's not going to see the new Joker movie. He's not watching The Boys or The Umbrella Academy. He don't have no Netflix subscription. He doesn't care about the political impeachment circus

1:00:35 And he doesn't even take the softball pitch question of how can people support your work. It's like, well I don't know ask Aaron about that! You want to talk about Earth stereos and flame speakers? I can talk about that inside and out but donations...support....I don't know talk to Aaron. I understand he is just genuine you know i like that about him. This is why him and Aaron make such a fantastic team Eric needs an Aaron and Aaron needs an Eric And they're both noble guys trying their best at resurrecting the right understanding of these suppressed sciences and how they can be used. Even though I think Eric might say that the masses don't even deserve it, which i also think might be true too

1:01:25 And I really hope you liked this one because i've been talking more and more to Aaron about keeping these kind of guests in our rotation. I think I have three or four more shows on the books that have come from Aaron at this point, so we're gonna see what happens! I know at least one is speaking English as a second language and doesn't do a lot of interviews but that's what keeps me on my toes...I like a challenge Anyone can say ladies and gentlemen here's david ike and then sit there for twenty minutes you know but a major reason i have this inclination to go harder at these subjects in particular. Is partly because of this military centric disclosure rollout, you might be stuck in traffic on your way to work thinking what is he talking about how is it connected

1:02:16 But then you see Jeremy Corbell handling another disclosure mouthpiece on Joe Rogan, and my first thought is... You know. A general fuck this? The non-human intelligence topic is way deeper than a few military men seeing a couple of crafts here and there I don't like that it seems as if the whole question of are they or aren't they hinges on that sort of thing but how do I do that show You know, comb the archive and you'll hear little comments about who or what I think is legit and what's bullshit. But it's not really my style to dedicate a show to tearing something like that down because i don't have any insider information. I don't like to be that arrogant but I don't want to be silent or actively participate in a fake disclosure either so I just think what's a better way to wade into the deep and strange waters of aliens entities whatever you want to say

1:03:14 And to me, it's this sort of suppressed science stuff. Not because it's about non-human intelligences directly... but you have to lay an ether physics entangled fractal universe animist model base to open up that alien dialogue to the more complex reality because what's being presented is kind of trash When we talked to Nassim Harriman, he seemed to have an excellent grasp on what's under the hood of reality. And he also told us that he has talked to something non-physical Dr Jack Hunter the anthropologist told us many compelling stories about indigenous people and their spirit contact I don't know if this is making sense but i guess rather than participate in Hey General tell us about that floating metal cigar you saw

1:04:06 I would rather go in this direction because if you're participating in consensus reality, and it's materialist model then you are not ready for aliens. Because it's about much more than some cosmic Christopher Columbus discovering this new world You know? But that's all just sort of to tell you where my head is at lately And why I want to hit this area a bit harder in the face of what I'm seeing out there And you really should see some of Eric's demonstrations. The flame speaker is pretty damn cool! I'm excited for his Earth stereo as well, and i mentally prepared for some major electrical grid outage because i think he explains how it's designed to be unnecessarily vulnerable quite well and the icing on the cake is that the sun is dead...I don't know how dead is dead but it's a precarious decade we're in to say the least

1:05:02 But this is all getting away from me. I really should point out that it's important to support the work you want to see grow and flourish Sure, that can mean THC but it really means Eric and Aaron's work Aaron has this conference where you can go and see a lot of these people And what they're working on? I very much want to go next year E-mediapress.com is the website Go poke around! Also ericpdollared.com He's got a PayPal donation link on the right hand side They set this up as a non-profit. You think that's easy? God, I can't even get my driver's license renewed all this logistical shit it really is... A nightmare so kudos to them just for even getting that structure set up and look at the links we got in the show notes for some good follow-up stuff of course i know every guest is looking for some sort of promotion or support books to buy and all that and then on top of it i'm telling you to sign up for plus

1:06:04 It's a lot. You're just like, can I listen to something for Christ sake? I understand but Eric is the man on the ground trying to find creative ways to get people to care about this alternative paradigm and the model of reality that the digital demon cult has hidden away Most guests i interview are more scholarly or journalistic But eric is the guy getting his hands dirty every day Do you want to support the guy who wrote the manual for your car, or do you want to support the guy who can fix every damn piece of it and make it better? And he's not a young man. The son is already dead. He's salty and cynical and I absolutely understand why Let's try to encourage him to stay at it and let him know there are people out there that DO care

1:06:55 I mentioned last week that i was getting a bit of burnout and fatigue, and i got huge outpouring of support. And new plus members! And i really do appreciate that. I wish i could just make that happen for a guy like Eric who does more than just talking to a microphone. When i say burnout by the way some people actually were like no don't quit And well that's a silly idea i can't quit this is my job hopefully until i die I'm pretty much banned from the workforce at this point but we all have ups and downs frustrating and overwhelming periods of work followed hopefully by some smooth sailing right so it's all good.

1:07:39 But check out more from Eric. Check out more from Aaron. Challenge yourself to understand this stuff and go through that re-education process until you get it so that you can be an advocate Also, sign up for PLUS I guess...I don't know I do just want to throw in the plus content that we got into today because it is part of the wrap-up process. But we talked about George Van Tassel's Integratron, Eric was the last engineer to work on that before it was taken over That was something I don't think I knew We got more into their relationship between music and electricity And Eric's flame speaker! We talked about mapping the inner earth with the musical seismograph

1:08:23 getting power from a radio transmission, making a physical body for the biblical beast? The Schumann resonance?! Oliver Heaviside's work, how society keeps us out of balance. The realness of alchemy as a suppressed science Isaac Newton the Alchemist and how elemental substances react to planetary forces God that was interesting we talked so much about astrology and How the energies of the planets affect us and affect human beings but apparently they affect all kinds of material

1:09:01 Eric even said that under some certain space weather conditions, he can't even get a good weld. What's going on? So a lot of amazing and unique stuff Get the extra hour of all my shows at thehighersidechats.com blah blah blah But also the joint session this month will be on the 25th our last two have been pretty barren because of another YouTube banning But whatever, we do what we can. It's not a real banning they just take away the ability for me to live stream every once in awhile it hurts because there are tens of thousands of YouTube subscribers and when someone they subscribe to goes live it's very obvious in their feed so they hop on and without that We're dealing with a dozen people that actually show up on the 25th at 7 p.m So think about it

1:09:57 There will be other baseball games, guys. And there will be other joint sessions too yeah but you know what I mean so try to show up just so we aren't so badly affected by that YouTube issue and i'll see you then your move ether excluders digital demon cult members and acolytes of the big it your fucking move this is important hear what i said I'm trying to tell you It's not paranoia, not in my head It's just the hard truth Knocked on your door while i still can To ask you a question Cause I know your head is still in the sand

1:10:50 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we're arc- Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tell you this anyway It's a scary dark world I'm scared at what you say Can't you see that we're so- You sit and wish but we don't have a choice It seems we're stuck here But you can find no sis, drown out the noise Now use that altar End up your magic game And listen to THC

1:12:02 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we are kung fu? Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tell you this anyway It's a scary dark world And it's scarier every day So whatcha saying we'll be okay can't you see that we're so yeah

1:13:08 Don't be sheep to your slaughter for the rest of your life Oppressed, oppressed but you're getting woke You say you don't want to be stressed until the day you die Tough luck my friend Did ya get the memo? Can't you see that we're so screwed? Don't you know we are confused? Can't you just admit we're screwed I'm gonna tell you this anyway It's a scary dark world Something scarier everyday Okay, can't you see that we're so yeah, can't you see that we're